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made Joe Judge run laps.

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Welcome to another edition of the Around

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the NFL Podcast. My name is

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Dan Hansas, coming to you from

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a virtual room filled with heroes,

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Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal,

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and Chris Westling. What's up boys?

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Hey, damn? How

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you feeling west? Monday's Mondays

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in the West. Best day of the

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week. I've felt better, but getting

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through it, getting through it, um.

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I think only two more weeks of chemo, but

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now we're talking about doing clinical

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trials, which is like experimental treatment

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after those two weeks are up. Um,

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because the back pain is still there and

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that leads me to believe the cancer is

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still gonna be there when they run the scans at

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the end of these two weeks. So we'll

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just taking a day by day. Came

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back. Yeah,

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this is a big one, you know. In

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fact, it kind of informs how we want to build

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out our lead up to week one because there's

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a lot of fun stuff we go through on this show

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as we approach week one, and it's getting there. It's

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a week from Thursday

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right now, it just doesn't we

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say it, then it'll become real, but it's

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still doesn't really real. It's

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not real in this house, I can tell you that where

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it's chaos at all times and the season hasn't

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started yet, it's uh, my

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body clock is telling me it's like June nine,

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and so I things are very odd internal.

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The difference though, between now and like a month ago,

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when when camp quote in quotes

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was in theory starting and now camps are

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basically over already it was like we

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barely knew we had yet, is that there's no

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doubt that the season is starting, at least you know

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in my like that was a real doubt four or

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five weeks ago. It's like, wow, how is this all gonna

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work? Like I don't know exactly how it's gonna work,

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but they're playing that game. It's gonna be sixteen

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thousand people apparently in the crowd,

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and like, um, like I don't

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have much doubt anymore because the COVID ninety

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team list is so sparse that

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that football is happening. I just can't quite believe it's

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in a week and a half and that it feels like there's been no building.

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This is a it's a blind spot for Greg because

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he fails to realize that like the moon is

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going to crash into the Indian Ocean four days

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from now, so you know, just let's not

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get too cocky here. As

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my mother has said to me many times, don't

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spit in the scar Let's

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just hope we get there. Things are going

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in the right direction, and yes, Monday's knowing

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that we have wes, we want to do our best

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stuff. And one of our favorite segments

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we do every year around this

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is Around the NFL podcast Around

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the a f C in forty eight minutes. We'll

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hit the NFC later this week,

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but we got West locked and loaded as our number

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four to hit it. So we're gonna go

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through each team in the four

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divisions and everybody gets three minutes

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no complaining in the mentions

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about your team not getting an up. But we still

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get complaints, as it turns out West because

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people then complain, Oh, those bozos

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went down some wormhole and they talked about

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my team for thirty seconds and talked

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about I don't know Drew Lock's

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grandmother that was on Twitter for the other

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two and a half minutes. That we're always gonna get like

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paying on something. Well, that's that goes

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with the territory. But I maintain

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I've always said, hey, put the blame on your

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team, not us. Your team could be

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a lot more interesting and then we'd find lots of

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things to talk about for three minutes. Cast

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the blame at your team like

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a critical thinking fans dropping

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the hammer in a big spot as strong

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as ever. Um all right, so we're gonna

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go through it all, and I don't think we should even waste time.

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You know, there's some big news that happened in

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the league, and will fold that into uh,

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the a f C South talk. But let's

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get going. Let's start in the

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a f C East. And oh, before we do, I

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just want to welcome in um Our Juna

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Rango Paul. He's he's filling in for Ricky

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Hollywood, who's got something cooking that I don't

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want to talk about yet on the podcast. But

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she's out, uh for a

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reason that's very kind of fun and interesting

4:08

and potentially embarrassing for us. So there's a lot

4:10

of a lot of things in play. Maybe great

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glory for Ricky comes out of this, maybe

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something horrific that changes the trajectory of her

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life forever. That's a little easier

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to you, But h Our Juna

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is filling in for Ricky and and we

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just want to apologize as a podcast to

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get thrown into the fire for the first time.

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I'll be doing a around the A F C

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and forty eight. Man. That's a lot of responsibility on your

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plate. Man, And I'm sorry that I'm

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under brush. You know, having worked with our Juna, I

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few does just it doesn't really matter what's got,

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what's what's flying around him. That

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was a real uh, that was a real no

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pressure, no diamonds response from our junior.

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And I'm good,

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I'm ready, and you keep

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us in line, our Juna. And if anybody

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goes over the three minutes, uh,

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we have those. We have a ton of We actually

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about weight too many tranquilizer dot

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dots darts when we were uh

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putting the Bengals into the Bengal sanctuary. So

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if you want to offload those, uh, just

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firing right into Greg's carotid artery.

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There you

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go ahead, do a target. You can do a little target practice

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right here before we get gone.

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You've been practicing with that uh that weapon

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there. Yeah, water

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space all

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right. Once Greg comes comes to we're

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gonna get going because he's starting us off an

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f C East. Let's do it right now, are

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you know? Around the a f C forty eight minutes,

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we begin with the New England Patriots.

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Go. Greg. We have talked so much

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about Cam Newton and the quarterback

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situation and the offense in general that I think

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we we've done a disservice to the

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problems on the rest of the Patriots roster.

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And I think Bill Belichick can figure things out because

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he's Bill Belichick as the season goes on. But

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even if prime Tom

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Brady was there, I think you look

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at the rest of this team and you see more holes

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than you've seen in a little while.

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At tight end, they're really county on these two rookie

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tight ends, Devon Asciosity who got hurt um

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in camp, Dalton King, we'll

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see their their entire pass rushes

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really built on his chase Winoviitch

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gonna somehow break out. Maybe he will. He's

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had a good camp. Dietrich Why is a guy who's

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been there forever. They kind of like right now, they're county on two

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rookies at inside linebacker and

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Fredy Jennings and Josh who cha uh

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You look at their right tackle as a guy who's barely

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started or played in the league. And

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I just think other than the

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secondary, other than cornerback, you

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have more question marks outside

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of just quarterback and just

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the lack of speed at wide receiver

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than you've had in a while. Belichick

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turned the roster over a couple of times, especially

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every ten years. It was similar in two thousand

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and ten, and a lot of young players played a lot

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better than anyone expected, and they were head

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of I think they could do it again. But I think

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we've maybe undersold how difficult

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a coaching job this is gonna be, including

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on defense. For Belichick, his two sons

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and like two other guys. I mean, they basically

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have less coaches on that staff in any

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defensive staff in the league. That's a fact that a lot

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of bel a lot of other coaches.

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That's it. That's it. Well,

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I don't know if you might be over selling

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the defense. You're gonna have a hard time getting

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me to be too concerned about that side of the ball.

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But when I'm reading the Gunner Olszewski

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is the number two receivers that in

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training camp. That's a problem. Um,

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Like, what, as a Patriots fan, what are your

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thoughts on Nikil Harry at this moment.

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He's been super up and down in camp. They

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say some great days, some bad days. That sounds familiar,

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similar to him last year. Has to stay healthy.

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I mean, I'm honestly more hoping

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that Mohammed Sanu shows up as like um

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of what Mohammed Sannu used to be, because that's the is

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more realistic and Harry is just contributing.

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But but the defense, I am concerned about these

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defensive tackles. Another position where you

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know they were gonna have bo Allen start, He's gone

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that. You know that it's a bunch of guys and

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they always figure out a way, and I think they will

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because Belichick is a good coach, but I think just talent

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wise, it's less than they've been in a while. Yeah, I feel

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like the best coach in the history

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of the NFL is uh. You

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know, he's not saying much, but he's pretty amped

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up to kick people's asses. And I

8:27

got two other words for you. It's called Ernie Adams

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and he's hidden away in this little laboratory and

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like they could wheel out the lollipop kids

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at wide receiver and still they're gonna

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be fine. I I don't

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even think this is zigging when others are sagging.

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I see New England as a playoff team, and I

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just I trust them to adjust during

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the weirdest year in football history as well

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as anyone. Mm

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hmm. Greg

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Rosenthal, well done, Mark Sessler. Buffalo

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Bills. You know, I pretty blindly adore

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the Bills, and I realized that, and I think it's based

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on on some absurdities such

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as like I just like Western and Upstate

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New York and the and the trees and the farms up

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there, and you know, we sat down with Sean McDermott

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and he was really nice to us, and that's all

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it takes. Like I'm on love Island with the Bills.

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But there's a lot to like. I love how they've rebuilt

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the entire offense and just a couple off

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seasons. I mean, I think this is one of the better,

9:20

more reliable wide receiving corps in the

9:22

a f C. You've added someone that can

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be legit deep threat in digs,

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and it's up to Josh Allen to improve,

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you know, his drastically horrific deep uh

9:32

ball throwing skills. But I think that

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you know, he's gonna help Digs is gonna

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help a lot. I love their backfield right now

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with Devin Singletary and Zack Moss. I can't

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wait to see what Zack Moss does. This might

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be a top three defense, So you

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know, I do think though in the a f C East,

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you have to be a better coach than

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Bill Belichick over the course of the season to

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win that division. I just

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have that much respect for the Patriots.

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But I think that Sean McDermott, here's my question

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for you. I think you know, I get I know, I

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get fascinated with these guys, and you probably think

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I'm a bit of a bit of a rube on that front.

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But I think this is one of the

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a f c's next great coaches. Am

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I overrating what Sean McDermott,

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the Sean McDermott factor can mean

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for Buffalo in a weird AFC East. He's

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proven himself over the past two

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years, certainly three years, that

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he's a guy that's a long term answer. That's why he got

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an extension. I do disagree with the notion

10:26

that to to beat the Patriots you have

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to be a better head coach than Bill

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Belichick, because that's just not gonna happen. But

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what the Bills have in their favor

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is a huge talent gap

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between them and the Patriots. And

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that's kind of my feeling on it. You mentioned

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the Patriots mark that you haven't

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ticketed for the playoffs just because they're the Patriots

10:47

and it's Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams, but

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I can't get past the fact that the Bills are just

10:51

so much more talented. And then when you

10:53

factor in the fact that they have a young, rising head

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coach. I'm not ready to put him in like the upper echelon

10:57

yet, but a guy that's really got them going to the right

11:00

direction, and the entire organization

11:02

that's going in the right direction. I think

11:04

this is the heavy favorite to be a playoff team coming

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out of the division. I'm so impressed

11:09

with Brandon Bean in their front office,

11:11

and that started after

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they made the playoffs and they said the next

11:15

offseason, we're not a playoff team, we're

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rebuilding. We're in salary cap

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hell. So they didn't rush things. They

11:22

went about it the right way and every year, look

11:24

at how they've built that offense around

11:26

Josh Allen. To the point is rookie year,

11:28

he had met very little around him, maybe the worst

11:30

wide receiver corps in the NFL. And

11:33

then this year, who's got I mean, how many teams

11:35

you can probably count on one hand better wide receiver

11:37

corps step Big School Beasley,

11:39

John Brown and their rookie fourth rounder

11:41

Gabriel Davis is getting a lot of love in

11:44

training camp as well. And then you get you

11:46

add Zack Moss to Devin Singletary at running

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back. I just I just really love the way they've built

11:50

this off round. Josh Allen, Tyler

11:53

Croft love too, and they got them all every year.

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Have no excuses for Josh Allen. True

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those chimes are for the people that complained about the air horn.

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We listened. New

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York Jets Adam Gates might be coaching

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for his career in his reputation

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as one of the league's bright young coaching minds

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was damaged in Miami, pretty

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much obliterated in the past twenty months since

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he took the Jets job, and

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he got ripped by Jamal Adams on his way out

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the door. Lead Bell couldn't wait

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to put him on blast on Twitter over

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the hamstring practice thing last week,

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and it's just telling and

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given the injuries, illnesses, and roster

12:35

deficiencies last year. I thought it was a bit lazy

12:37

for everyone to say, oh, the Jets weren't good last year

12:39

because Adam Gates is the head coach and that's why

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their offense stunck. There were a lot of reasons why they stunk, and

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Gates had a role in it, but he's not the only reason.

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However, I don't think there will be

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any excuses for Gaze if Sam

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Donald and company can't take the next

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step in and oh, by the way, there's still

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a limited roster. Gaze still doesn't

12:57

have a lot to work with. So my question is, is

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is there any way Gaye gets out

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of this alive? And I forget about just

13:03

holding onto the Jets job because maybe that's just doomed.

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But where he becomes one of those guys that goes

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from hot shot offense coordator head coach

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and then all of a sudden he's like, where where is Adam Gaze?

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Is he even the league right now? Is that if

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this year goes sideways, well, I think

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I think him maybe never being a play

13:20

caller again. You know, forget head coach.

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If things go sideways is absolutely in play

13:24

because you know when you fail in New York,

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like the whole world knows about it. And

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he doesn't seem the trend of the coaches

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like your Sean mcveigh's and others

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who relate to today's players. And you just watch

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Hard Knocks and see that Sean McVeigh is so much more

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than just a brilliant play caller. He creates

13:39

a culture, and Adam Gates does that in reverse

13:42

on you know, And I'm at the point where the Jets jokes

13:44

just aren't even funny, they're bleak. And I can't

13:46

think of a quarterback outside of Sam

13:48

Donald who's been put into a first round quarterback

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who's been put into a worse situation over

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his career. I mean, it's just like, come on,

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the only way they save it is Sam Donald making a

13:57

huge leap and Gaze maybe taking

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the credit for it. I think

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Gates can get jobs because he seems to have so many

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friends in the media, in front office, and people believe

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in him. I mean that that's why we heard he was so great

14:08

for year after year. It's amazing he got this job

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so quick. I don't think he'll get another head coaching job if

14:13

this doesn't go well, I think they

14:15

were set up for a decline anyways,

14:18

because I think this division is bad. I just

14:20

I think, um that the

14:22

schedule is so easy last year, and the talent

14:25

is so poor on defense for the Jets, And

14:27

yeah, Greg Williams can coach him up, but he

14:29

needs Quinn and Williams to show up. He needs Marcus

14:32

May, who everyone says looks amazing. Camp

14:34

took Jamal Adams role to be kind

14:36

of an all pro type of guy. They haven't had, you

14:38

know, much of a pass Russian camp. They're

14:40

they're saying, Okay, well, that's a good sign for the offensive line,

14:42

like we'll we'll see on paper. I

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think, what

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what paper?

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I think this is one of the two or

14:53

three worst rosters in the league. I think the Dolphins are

14:55

another one in this division. That's

14:57

why. And I don't think the Bills and Patriots and

15:00

necessarily rack up wins either. I think nine

15:02

wins could win this division. I

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think I'm ready for a blowback against

15:07

leaders who so discord chaos

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and negativity. And Adam Gates is one of

15:11

those m the

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Miami Dolphins. Chris Wesley, Well,

15:20

I'm catching up on the Dolphins news and

15:22

a couple of things stood out to me. Preston Williams,

15:24

who towards a c L and the

15:26

second half of last season and was arguably

15:30

the best skill position player as a rookie

15:32

before tearing that a c L seems

15:34

to be doing really well in camp and coming back strong.

15:37

That's something to keep an eye on. But I've

15:40

been surprised by and I guess my question do you guys,

15:42

is how big of a surprise is that the camp

15:45

battle is not two of versus

15:47

Fitzpatrick, it's two of versus Josh Rosen

15:49

for the number two jobs. I

15:52

am surprised. Maybe we shouldn't

15:54

be, because two is coming off a major injury in the

15:56

shortened time, but they didn't

15:59

make it any um,

16:01

any effort at giving to a first team

16:03

reps. And now Ryan Fitzpatrick missed some time his

16:05

mother unfortunately passed away. But he's back with

16:08

the team. Now he's gonna be starting the

16:10

two of practice. Reports have been pretty up and down.

16:12

I don't think he's wowed anyone. He's going to be the

16:14

backup, he'll be the guy to replace Fitzpatrick at

16:16

some point, but it doesn't sound like he was

16:19

particularly close And I think they know it's

16:21

a tough spot, especially early in this season

16:23

with this offensive line. I know they have a lot of

16:25

new players, so hopefully the line is better,

16:27

but it was maybe the worst line in the league last

16:29

year. Totally new group. I think

16:31

the defense is professional though. I think the defense

16:33

is a lot more talented than it was a

16:36

year ago, especially in the secondary. Yeah, I think

16:38

they put They put a lot of money into the defense

16:40

and they had to. I mean, they're Their

16:43

inability to rush the passer and protect

16:45

their own passer was a death knel and

16:47

I think that Brian Flores did a great job

16:49

down the stretch. But it almost puts

16:52

you don't want to be overly optimistic about the

16:54

Dolphins because of what we saw down you know,

16:56

at the end of the year knocking off New England and stuff.

16:58

I mean to me, I look at the offense of roster, and

17:01

there's some parts there, but it's one of the weirder

17:03

offensive rosters around, right. It's

17:05

just really Parker has been out of practice,

17:08

DeVante Parker, and so it's like you look at that

17:10

receiver corps and there

17:13

Flores is in a very tough situation

17:16

and look Ryan Fitzpatrick let's

17:18

start there. I mean, how many times has the Ryan Fitzpatrick

17:21

gone well in year two? And I know he

17:23

was awesome. As Mark Marcus pointed

17:25

out, many times you let the team in rossing in

17:27

addition to happening and just being a guy that

17:30

you just love to root for, but it usually doesn't

17:32

get so good after that. Uh So,

17:34

to me, it becomes just this like internal battle

17:36

in the organization about tah and

17:38

whether they can make the right decision with

17:40

him, both healthwise and for the good of the franchise.

17:43

That I think that's the big storyline to take

17:45

out of their season. Winning five games,

17:47

to me, would be an accomplishment to match that I

17:49

feel, and I don't think Dolphins fans

17:51

feel that way, but just the way last

17:54

season fell, um,

17:56

I think they got a little lucky with the schedule again,

17:58

you know with the a f C East that if they

18:00

can repeat that, that's good. You just want to know

18:03

that toa is okay and promising,

18:05

and that Florists continues being a promising

18:07

young coach. I think that's fair and

18:09

and it's down to quarterback. Fitzpatrick, like

18:12

Dan said, does not have a record of doing it two

18:14

months in a row much less two years in a row and

18:16

then two is probably not ready to come in and be a stud

18:19

just yet. We

18:22

closed the book on the a f C East. Well done,

18:25

very disciplined boys. Let's move now to the a

18:27

f C North and Chris start us off again, this

18:29

time with the Ravens. You look

18:31

at this team and record

18:33

setting offense last year, but I think what

18:35

a lot of people failed to see about the Ravens

18:37

is also one of the youngest offenses in the

18:39

NFL. Look at their skill position players and

18:42

everything has been the last three drafts. They're

18:45

so deep now, especially maybe the deepest

18:47

backfield in the NFL. Their wide

18:49

receiver, a position that in that franchise's

18:51

history has given them all kinds

18:53

of problems, is now probably

18:56

a position of strength. Guys

18:58

like rookies like Devin de n A and

19:00

j K. Dobbins and even James Pross,

19:02

who's been getting some love in the in the

19:04

training camp. How much of

19:06

an impact do you see those guys having considering

19:08

the depth they have at those positions. Not

19:12

much. I mean Dobbins might be the exception.

19:14

Everyone says he looks great and came. I'm

19:16

having a hard time not getting really excited about

19:19

him. Yeah, and I was excited. That's one

19:21

guy our our friends Spice Rack was

19:23

huge on thinking he's like the next And

19:29

because this was the most run heavy team since

19:31

the Tim Tebow Broncos, and

19:33

Lamar Jackson had three times the rushing

19:35

value compared to any other quarterback in the league

19:37

according to Football Outside. Is that sustainable?

19:40

I think so. But you gotta put some new twists

19:42

on it, you know, I think you have to. You

19:44

want to throw the ball a little more, you want to use your receivers

19:47

a little more, and you hope the defense is

19:49

good from the start of the season

19:51

on. Because the defense really came on strong late

19:53

for the Ravens, not so much in the playoffs, but on

19:55

paper, um, they should be pretty good.

19:58

Like it should be a balancing They shouldn't have to be

20:00

best rushing team in the league to be one

20:02

of the top two uh A f C

20:04

teams. I mean I I we did our picks

20:06

for NFL dot Com and you know, last year

20:08

I picked the Browns to go the Super Bowl and that

20:10

acid trip wore off. And I am

20:12

picking the Ravens this time around. And I don't

20:14

think they are gonna be fourteen and two,

20:16

because that just doesn't happen two years in a row.

20:19

But you know, they were not the same team

20:21

at the end of last year when Mark Andrews

20:23

got injured and when Mark Ingram got injured,

20:26

they just really weren't the same crew.

20:28

And I think that the Dobbins pick, he's

20:30

the kind of guy that might Maybe it's it's not

20:32

early on to answer your question, Chris,

20:34

but I could see Dobbins becoming the guy

20:37

down the stretch and uh, you

20:39

know, changing everything for Baltimore.

20:41

I love that they have there. It tells me

20:43

we're not going to try to be that different than we

20:45

were last year. That is what we want to do, and

20:47

we're gonna you know, that's what we're gonna do, and

20:49

it's gonna be us first you. I love that they signed

20:52

Class Campbell. I think Mark Ingham was the best

20:54

free agent signing of a year ago in the NFL,

20:56

and Class Campbell will have a huge impact

20:58

on that defense, which is improved.

21:01

And I really just don't see a big weakness

21:03

on this team other than maybe depth at wide receiver.

21:05

I don't love I wanted them to get Emmanuel

21:08

Sanders or someone at white up back

21:10

to Jackson and running the football.

21:13

In his first two seasons. This from

21:16

ESPN, he has two sixty design

21:18

runs a hundred and fifty nine more

21:20

than any other quarterback, Josh Allen second

21:22

with one oh six. That doesn't feel

21:25

sustainable to me in the long term. I know he's

21:27

been durable so far, but I'll be careful.

21:29

This is your franchise now, right agreed?

21:32

Stainable for one more year? Hack that

21:34

away and what do you have? The

21:39

Pittsburgh Steelers.

21:42

Has a sense of urgency

21:44

in Pittsburgh ever been higher in the Tomlin

21:47

era than right now?

21:49

Or should it be a big bend thirty eight years

21:51

old? We know his whole situation. The Patriots,

21:54

we know they're not special anymore, so you don't have to worry about

21:56

them anymore. Being the fly in the ointment.

21:59

The rosters loaded with free agents, uh,

22:01

many of whom could be playing elsewhere

22:04

with the uncertainty around the salary cap right

22:06

now, championship roster

22:09

great skill pieces on both sides

22:11

of the ball. The defense could be the best in the league. Put

22:14

Big Ben back in for Rudolph

22:16

and Duck Hodges and that could be

22:18

a huge upgrade. Uh

22:21

is it now? Or never for the Black and Gold.

22:25

I think so because Ben

22:29

either is gonna make it through and still be Ben. I guess

22:31

then it wouldn't be not You know, then then you think, okay,

22:33

maybe you have one more year, but how many more can you count on.

22:35

I think they've had one of the most positive training camps

22:37

of any team, not just because they haven't had any

22:40

major injuries, but Roethlisberger

22:42

has made it through and everyone there same. His

22:44

arm looks good. I know there were some reports early

22:46

he's like short arming things or whatever, but he's out

22:49

there every day he's practicing. They say he's

22:51

he's throwing the ball well and he's getting through

22:53

this. Will it last when he's getting tackled.

22:55

I don't know, but I think it was a fair question to even

22:57

wonder how it was gonna look in August,

23:00

and he's throwing fine against there. They have

23:02

to be fired up to have him on

23:04

the field at the same time of this defense,

23:06

which it took a long time to come together, but there's

23:08

a lot of great players on this defense at every level.

23:11

I think it's you know, we forget that they were eight and five

23:13

a year ago with an absolute nightmare

23:15

roster and I think that there are a little bit of

23:17

a revenge tour team and we

23:19

we cited them correctly. Is maybe one

23:22

being overlooked a little bit? I mean the next factor

23:24

is, is Juju Smith Schuster gonna be

23:26

who he was two years ago? Um? Is

23:29

Antonio Brown correct and saying that he's not a

23:31

true number one? I think he was in a terrible situation

23:33

a year ago. I mean I would also look

23:37

yeh, I mean it just it was not a good It's

23:39

not shocking why he wasn't himself.

23:42

I think this is also

23:45

possibly beg big bends last year in Pittsburgh.

23:47

I honestly have I have this returning vision

23:49

of him being Gruden's quarterback with the

23:52

Raiders next year for one year. So

23:54

I think the urgency is there and that like

23:56

this isn't you know, it's now or never

23:58

for Pittsburgh A hundred hunt. Yeah,

24:02

the favorite in the division. I really do go ahead

24:04

over Baltimore. Yep, I I

24:07

I disagree with that, but I think they'll be right there, you

24:09

know, very close. Juju is still

24:11

younger than some of the guys who were drafted this year.

24:14

I mean that he's still developing. He still got room

24:16

to grow and a guy that Greg

24:18

has liked for the past few months, Chase Claypool,

24:20

was getting all kinds of positive

24:22

pub coming out of camp, which is so

24:25

interesting watching draft season and seeing

24:27

like the Bob McGann articles where he's like graded

24:29

as a tight end because they don't think he can stay a wide

24:31

receiver, and now he's blowing the doors

24:33

off a training camp. Well, that's

24:36

a monster that looks like a tight end actually

24:39

can be good for a wide receiver in the red zone.

24:42

One zero, alright,

24:47

Sessler, make it count the Cleveland

24:49

Browns. All right. Well, I think we've talked

24:51

about this team a lot, and we know the offensive

24:53

talent is there. And I've been watching

24:55

They've been putting these two hour long camp practices

24:58

on YouTube every day. I've been taped dog in

25:00

this stuff West Okay. And here's my big

25:02

concern comment. I don't

25:04

see here's my this is a legit concern. I'm not trying

25:06

to be freaked out about it. I don't see in these

25:08

practices a drop off from Baker

25:11

Mayfield to case keenom I know the case keenom

25:13

Is is comfortable in this Stefanski

25:15

system, and Baker has had to learn a lot

25:17

of third system in three years. I don't like that.

25:20

It's not easy. I give Mayfield credit for getting

25:22

his body right. He has been all focused

25:24

on football. Um, but here's my issue,

25:26

and this is a little bit more of an esoteric Brown's issue.

25:28

We can get into the other stuff, this

25:31

whole Baker being silent and Baker

25:33

you know, uh, you know, just quietly

25:35

working. Baker Mayfield is like

25:37

that cocky cowboy who you love or

25:39

hate based on your own p O V. And

25:42

the NFL quarterbacks are a different deal. I don't

25:44

really want a quieter Baker Mayfield.

25:47

I wanted to be who he is, and I don't think the Browns

25:49

maximize who they are if he

25:52

is muted or overly humbled in

25:54

that position where he's still coming off of

25:56

last year's disaster. And you can tell

25:58

me, have I fallen down in other one of these sort of Brown's

26:01

mental wormholes, or is there something

26:03

to the fact that Look at if you're if

26:06

you want to be the quiet leader, be it. But if you're

26:08

Baker Mayfield, your soul is something

26:10

entirely different. Be who you are

26:13

and don't apologize for it. That

26:15

goes for everything everybody in life,

26:18

but mostly for quarterbacks. You have to be genuine,

26:20

you have to be true to yourself. And

26:22

we're not gonna have answers to Baker

26:25

Mayfield in August. We're not gonna know until

26:27

October and November how he's doing. But

26:30

but the best sports stories are about overcoming

26:32

adversity, and after what

26:35

what last season was for him, this is overcoming

26:37

adversity. He's got a show that

26:40

there's more more fiber to him than what he

26:42

showed last year, that he's got some

26:44

some willpower because the personality

26:46

he's putting out there, you gotta put out more

26:48

effort than you put out last year. He played

26:52

incredibly well as a rookie, ran his mouth

26:54

that summer leading up to last year, played

26:56

poorly and it looked bad. So now he's

26:59

moving in silence. If he plays well in

27:01

September, he'll be talking again. I think I

27:03

don't buy it. I don't buy the moving in silence

27:05

thing. I think he's doing it because he's smart and

27:07

people told him to be this way right now, but we

27:09

know who he is by now. He's a charismatic

27:11

guy. He's a cocky kid, and I expect that to

27:13

come out. I'm already cringing by everyone

27:15

like applying like if

27:18

he does bad, it's because he was quiet. If he does

27:20

well, it's he was quiet. And it's

27:22

like, no, he was. I think he was humbled

27:24

by defenses. You know, he was hum

27:26

He he is a gamer and I hate that phrase,

27:29

but he created a lot after the snap without

27:31

exactly knowing what he was seen as a rookie, and

27:33

he was awesome. I think he's still throw the ball pretty

27:36

well at times. Last year, he just made a lot of

27:38

bad mistakes and um,

27:40

he realized he needs, as West said, he

27:42

needs to get in the playbook more. He needs to like

27:44

learn what he doesn't know more. Go

27:46

ahead and Mark, you got three seconds, two words,

27:49

Harrison Brant future star. This guy is gonna be

27:51

awesome. That's

27:53

a lot of two tight end sets. Hit

27:55

me with that dark gun. It's like I want it. Give

27:57

it to him. Feels

27:59

good. The kard Artery Payne alright,

28:02

moving on closing out the division, West,

28:05

I mean Greg, excuse me, the Cincinnati Bengals.

28:08

Let's head to the sanctuary.

28:16

It is so strange to be coming off

28:18

off season where we have talked about the Bengals

28:20

a ton as a fun team. One thing to

28:23

keep an eye on. Joe Mixon hasn't been practicing for more than

28:25

a week because of quote unquote Migraines

28:27

might have a contract. I mean before

28:29

the season. I think that ends up. It sounds

28:31

like it's it's gonna be handled

28:34

perfectly well, like Melvin Ingram

28:36

situation. But but keep an eye out for that.

28:38

I think they've had a really good camp because A. J. Green is

28:40

helped again. Tee Higgins is out there, and

28:42

they are the team that had three receivers on the

28:44

field more than almost any team other than

28:47

Arizona last year with these trashy

28:49

receivers. Now you've got a nice group.

28:51

Jonah Williams has looked good at left tackle

28:54

during camp. Joe Burrow is out there making

28:56

team statements on social justice in

28:58

front of fifty veterans, and

29:00

they tell him to be the guy to lead him

29:03

like. I love that that. He's already

29:05

kind of impressed the people around him. Are

29:07

you now that we're right here, Wes,

29:09

are you feeling it? Are you getting back

29:11

into I'm

29:15

not coming home? But this might be the

29:18

most encouraged I've been four Bengals

29:20

fans since the eighties.

29:23

Yeah, I mean Joe Burrow. To

29:25

me, I've been saying this all along. The

29:27

natural leadership qualities are there.

29:30

And then to see J Morrison, who writes for The

29:32

Athletic in Cincinnati,

29:34

said he was easily the m v P of training

29:36

camp, your rookie quarterback drafted

29:39

number one overall. I mean, sure,

29:41

it's only August. Take it with a grain

29:43

of salt, but if you're a Bengals fan, nothing

29:46

is putting a bouncing your step like Joe Burrow,

29:49

like actually putting forth

29:51

on the field in training camp that he is that

29:53

guy. Yeah, I feel like it came out of Central

29:56

Casting as like the perfect quarterback.

29:58

I mean, he's smoking cigars in the locker room,

30:00

he's got awesome hair. And Zach Taylor

30:02

on NFL dot Com is my doing those

30:04

picks again. He's my coach of the year, dude. Because

30:06

they're gonna go two and fourteen last year. I think they're

30:09

gonna go nine and seven. They're gonna wax

30:11

the Browns in week two. I've already texted you with those

30:13

fears. I think the Bengals are gonna

30:15

be super fun. I'm not kidding. I think they're

30:17

gonna be this awesome story this year, and

30:20

as much as I don't love that, I'm really happy

30:22

for Bengals fans because it has been a dark winner

30:24

for decades. M M. I

30:27

don't want to take this off topic, but if you have the Bengals

30:29

as one of the fund stories in the NFL

30:32

and the Ravens as like a super Bowl team and the

30:34

Steelers right there, you must not be

30:36

very high Brown. No. I think they're the fourth

30:38

place team because I think they were affected by anyone

30:40

by injuries in camp and also an impossible

30:43

transition, A tough ask other teams

30:45

in that division are are are steady, steady

30:48

steady? The Eagles would like to have to have a

30:50

word to you on those injuries. I mean, well, they're up there

30:52

different like an outside linebacker

30:55

is like, let's get back to the sanctuary.

30:57

Yeah, let's give the Let's give the Bengals defensive

31:00

little attention because they were terrible last year.

31:02

But I think they don't be terrible again. Dunlap

31:05

was good. If Geno Atkins can be a little more

31:07

like there on the back nine of

31:09

their career, we can't expect improvement. It's

31:12

fair Dunlap at the end of last

31:14

year was as good as he's ever played

31:16

the last five or six just saying, good

31:19

guy.

31:23

All right, before we close out

31:25

the a f C South, let's pause. Here are

31:28

Juna Uh to break down the

31:30

big news coming out of Jacksonville this weekend,

31:32

and then we'll we'll dovetail right

31:35

into West setting up that team for three minutes.

31:37

But yes, the big news. The Jaguars

31:39

traded Uh franchise tag

31:41

defensive then Yannick and got Way to the Vikings

31:43

for second round pick and

31:45

a conditional fifth

31:48

round pick of the Vikings announced Monday

31:50

and got Way and this one, this blew my mind. And

31:52

I've seen a lot in football

31:55

and guys unhappy about contracts

31:57

and unhappy with their team, but I've never seen a guy take a

32:00

cut like this. And Gockway has

32:02

agreed to a one year, twelve million dollar deal

32:04

with the Vikings instead of playing out the

32:06

franchise tender of close to eighteen

32:08

million with the Jaguars. That's what it took

32:10

to get the trade done the Vikings that limited

32:13

cap space. Let's start within Gockway, Greg,

32:15

your thoughts on the deal? Did

32:18

they promise him that they're gonna pay him a

32:20

specific amount under

32:22

you know, under the table the Vikings. I mean to

32:24

make this trade because

32:26

you're right, I mean, and I wouldn't

32:29

shock me. No one would ever be able to find

32:31

out about it. They said they're confident they can resign

32:33

them. They can't do that right now because of the rules

32:36

having to do with franchise tags.

32:38

Because to take a six million dollar pay cut

32:40

just because you want out of Jacksonville so much

32:42

is um is fascinating.

32:45

I mean, he he certainly did not like that organization.

32:48

It's an awesome trade for the Vikings,

32:50

I think because, uh, his speed

32:52

plays well. I love him on the indoor track

32:54

opposite the Neil Hunter. I mean, I really

32:57

think it solves one of the big question marks for

32:59

the Vikings, is you yeah, I think like Also, the other

33:01

thing about in got Way is despite the clashing

33:03

with the Jaguars, everyone sort of says, this guy

33:05

works hard and he's

33:08

not a problem at all. It's the opposite. And

33:10

if you want to look back a year ago, it was Jalen Ramsey

33:12

who went, you know, the trades of the Rams

33:14

did not require him

33:17

signing a new contract right away. He also

33:19

wanted to get out of there so bad that it was just like

33:21

there was a culture issue, and I can't I can't

33:24

remember a more dead you

33:26

know, like floating dead duck uh

33:28

coach in NFL in the NFL than Doug

33:30

Marone right now. I mean, it's like what on

33:33

earth with Doug Moron after? I mean, they'll probably keep

33:35

them anyways, but I mean, how many

33:37

rebuilding jobs is David Caldwell going to oversee

33:39

oversee at this point? I mean, we all see the

33:41

numbers of the first rounders that have not gotten

33:44

to second contracts and gotten out of there

33:46

and produced eltswhere or just been you know, bus,

33:48

I just what's going on here.

33:51

The loyalty to these guys is

33:53

surprising to me. It reminds me of the nineties

33:55

Bengals, where David Caldwell

33:58

is going to rebuild for what the third time? I

34:01

mean, and what's he done with his high draft

34:03

picks so far? You've got guys scratching at the walls

34:06

to get out of there. That's that's

34:08

not healthy. They have one winning season

34:10

since two thousand eight. Caldwell got there. In two

34:12

thousand thirteen, shot Con got there

34:14

inn and I

34:16

mean they took the longest victory lap ever

34:18

for that one winning season and

34:21

resigned Bordles and didn't draft you

34:23

know, some of the better pastors we've seen

34:25

in decades. So the

34:27

other move, Leonard Fournette has been cut

34:30

loose. The Jaguars tried and

34:32

tried and tried to move

34:35

the number four and former number four overall

34:37

pick in seventeen on a trade. Doug Morone

34:39

told the media that as much on Monday, saying

34:42

they could not find anything. Sixth

34:44

round pick, seventh round pick. There was just no market

34:46

for Leonard four Nette West

34:49

A little listen. I know people, nobody

34:51

likes Leonard Fournette as a player right

34:54

now. I was surprised when I was looking

34:56

at his numbers that he did have fifteen hundred

34:58

total yards last year a lot of you

35:00

know, and he didn't find the end zone a lot. But

35:03

this wasn't a guy that was a total disaster for

35:05

them last year. And now they move,

35:07

they dump him, and I get why people are

35:09

saying this is a tank for Trevor's situation, because

35:12

he's he was He made their roster more

35:14

talented, right. I know he's not stud but he made

35:16

the better I think for

35:18

net is one of

35:21

the he might be exhibit A for why you need

35:23

to watch the games in football. His numbers

35:25

are so different from what you're getting for him that

35:29

it's volume. Pure volume is

35:31

what it is. Like. You can stick a lot of guys in

35:34

there and make on the three down back and they're gonna get

35:36

total yards. I mean, that's just the way

35:39

it works, especially if you force feed

35:41

him check downs and dump off passes, and

35:43

he's the exact wrong guy to be getting that stuff.

35:46

You want to hit Leonard four Nette with room

35:48

to run as a big guy, he should

35:50

be making guys miss and running over people.

35:53

But most of his big players come from getting to the second

35:55

level of defense and just out running everyone because

35:58

for the first few yards he's not going anywhere,

36:00

and he's just a really

36:02

inefficient running back. I think he could do a

36:05

lot better in a different offense. He's probably ill

36:07

suited for what Jake Gruden's gonna want to come in and do,

36:09

and that's why they're getting rid of him. Um.

36:12

I thought he was much better in two thousand nineteen

36:14

than he was in two thousand eighteen, and I think

36:16

he can help a team. But if you're just

36:19

looking at numbers, you're gonna drastically overrate

36:21

the guy. I would say you go read

36:23

West's game notes on four

36:25

Net that he tweeted out before the show today in

36:28

which he gives him the nickname battleship

36:30

for Net. Maybe you can explain West why he

36:32

earned that nickname. Well,

36:35

you know, it has to do it. It's like imagine

36:38

him turning around with his back to a defender

36:40

in the passing game and trying to make a move on a guy

36:42

is like a battleship turning around in the Panama

36:45

Canal. There's just no agility

36:47

there, like you're not gonna you're not gonna make

36:49

anyone miss. You know. It's it's

36:51

a tight space with a guy who's just gonna take an hour

36:53

to unwind and go around him. Just

36:56

how does not go for overall? How

36:58

does he go ahead of Patrick? Yeah, to be to be

37:01

fair to the Jaguars, um

37:03

I thought that they were crazy to double down

37:05

on boardles that year, and and we we

37:08

were on the record then saying that because

37:11

he was coming off a bad year. But everyone

37:13

had for Net ahead of McCaffrey.

37:16

Not to mention Mixing and Camara and all the other

37:18

people. Guy who runs four people

37:23

were just in love with with that

37:25

tape of like people they thought

37:27

because defenders in the SEC that he

37:30

was too much for them, uh, that that

37:32

he was somehow going to overpower NFL defenders.

37:34

And that just aren't many guys like that that come up,

37:36

come along that are so physically

37:39

dominant. Derrick Henry's one. I mean, Derrick

37:41

Henry's kind of done it um, but there there just

37:43

aren't many guys like that. It's also the NFL

37:45

and so much that is dependent upon scheme, coaches

37:48

and teammates. And if you put this

37:50

guy in the right offense,

37:52

surrounded by the right people, and call the right place

37:54

for him, it wouldn't surprise me if people start seeing

37:57

him as a Pro Bowl kind of runner instead

37:59

of a guy where he's being used wrong, he's

38:02

getting the wrong touches, and he's and he's

38:04

behind the bad offensive line with a rookie quarterback.

38:06

You can't put it all in called because there's the Tom Coughlin

38:09

factor, who wanted to build a team that

38:11

got shotguns out of nineteen thirty six

38:13

based around you know, a big body back where

38:16

it's like that can work, but you also have

38:18

Blake Bordles at quarterback and they're always

38:20

blaming in someone though, it's like they blamed the previous

38:23

GM at first, then they blamed

38:25

well, it wasn't our fault we brought in cop. Well, you were

38:27

there, you were the one that brought it. You know, you're

38:29

part of that group that brought in cough. I guess he can blame

38:32

the owner if you really want, not called well, but it's

38:34

they're always always pushed it around the blame.

38:36

It's like, no, marone is

38:39

nobody's fault that we're just the worst organization

38:41

in the league when it comes to winning games. Well,

38:44

I was gonna say, yesterday and my sideyard,

38:47

the bottom of like the wooden

38:50

gate was blown to Smitherens

38:52

because there was my two sons

38:54

in the house and then um my friend

38:56

Bob's two sons and the four of them just

38:58

going a and slamming

39:01

in this batmobile into the bottom. And

39:03

then when I went for answers, I wanted accountability,

39:06

it was just everybody pointing fingers at the at each

39:08

other for the blame. Nobody wanted to take

39:10

the accountability. So when you're

39:12

being likened to a let's say, a six

39:14

year old, a three year old,

39:17

a four year old, and an eight year old. Maybe

39:19

your organization needs to clean things up a little bit.

39:21

Maybe look at all the talent they've had

39:23

come through there. And you know, Greg

39:26

has pointed out in the past that defenses

39:29

are unreliable from year to year. When you build

39:31

your team around defense, you can't count on it.

39:34

Like two years from now, they're you're gonna be great, and

39:37

Class Campbell's gone, Dexter Fowler has gone,

39:39

Jalen Ramsey's gone, Telvin Smith,

39:41

Malik Jackson. I mean, this

39:44

was a Super Bowl caliber roster except

39:46

that quarterback. And it reminds me of an

39:48

article I wrote like five years ago where Mike

39:50

Holmgren says, you draft a

39:52

guy, and here's the very important part. No

39:55

matter what happens, you stand by him. You

39:57

stand by him in public, you stand by him

39:59

in prior of it, no matter what happens on the field,

40:01

you stand by him. At what point are

40:05

you doing yourself a disservice to the point where

40:07

you ruin your franchise by standing by the guy?

40:09

You miss your Super Bowl window because you stood

40:11

by the guy. All right,

40:13

let's now get into uh

40:17

the around the A f C format once

40:19

again. West Let's hit the Jaguars

40:21

now suddenly without any of

40:23

their well known guys from the past. I

40:26

don't think it's an apples to apples comparison,

40:28

because the Jaguars have tried to strengthen

40:31

their roster um. They've gone out

40:33

and signed some veterans to fill some holes. But

40:35

this is the closest thing this year, obviously

40:38

to the two thousand nineteen Dolphins, where we're

40:42

unloading our veterans who we don't see could

40:44

have a future with us. They won't be a part of our next

40:46

winning team. So my question

40:48

is what constitutes a success for the two

40:51

thousand twenty Jaguars. I

40:53

would say this real quick because it's west. It's funny.

40:55

I wrote the words organic jag tank

40:58

because I feel the same way that that

41:00

they they are. They're running that that going

41:02

down that road right now. I think you need to because

41:04

you're probably gonna be the number one or two pick, right,

41:06

you have to uh find out what you

41:09

had in Gardner Minshew, and to to the

41:11

point of sticking with the wrong quarterback.

41:13

If Gardner Minshew is just a really

41:16

serviceable fun um back

41:18

up, you need to know that by the end of the year

41:20

and not make the mistake of not

41:23

getting the best quarterback out there and staying

41:25

in the same uh, you know, dark territory

41:27

that they've been for so long. I think you have to evaluate

41:30

the most important position on your roster and

41:32

aggressively go fix it next

41:34

off season. I think you hit

41:36

on some picks and uh

41:39

and your young players play better. I

41:41

don't you know. I think they could be a little feist the on

41:44

offense. Minshew at his moments.

41:46

I think the receivers are are pretty good, the

41:48

offensive line is stable, and

41:51

um, they have that hasn't been the case. I mean, they

41:53

have their starters back. I

41:55

think it's having those young players Will Josh

41:59

Allen, Um, you know, the first round

42:01

pick this year? What was it chasing c. J. Henderson.

42:03

I mean they had a couple of first round picks this year, those

42:06

guys playing, I mean Miles Jack was

42:08

a guy they thought they were going to build around coming off a

42:10

pretty rough year. So it's like some of

42:12

these young guys stepping up and the

42:14

offense being feisty. I don't necessarily think

42:16

they're the number one pick. It wouldn't It wouldn't

42:18

surprise me if they have a Dolphins like season

42:21

where you know they're fifth or sixth in the

42:23

draft, and there are certainly

42:25

rosters out there I think that are just as bad or worse.

42:28

I just say on paper door and like they I get concerned

42:30

about. If you want to talk about like a Corona Risk

42:32

team, one of these teams where the coach

42:35

is not part of the future, he's losing the players.

42:37

They start one and eight, You're in Florida. People

42:40

are out partying saying forget this whole thing.

42:42

I mean that is when you get into you step into

42:44

a stick your scenario. It feels

42:46

like Gardner Minshew is in an impossible spot

42:48

because even if he is, I

42:51

mean I don't I have a different

42:53

view on his ceiling than other people on the show.

42:55

But even if he's pretty good, if

42:57

you're running this organization, you're

43:00

probably gonna want to do the Bengals thing here

43:02

or what teams have been doing forever is like

43:04

we need to reboot, we need a new face of

43:06

the franchise. And as cute as Gardener is

43:08

with his floppy hair and his social media stuff,

43:11

like, you probably want to get the number one hot

43:13

shot out there and say this is our guy. We're

43:15

starting over, and he's the face of it, I feel like

43:18

that's where this is all headed. Maybe

43:22

he'll be the Brown's quarterback next year. Mark, you know, as

43:26

long as he keeps that floppy hair, all

43:30

right, all

43:33

right, let's continue now to roll through the

43:35

a f C South Greg Houston

43:38

Texans. The Texans

43:40

gave Zack Conningham, their inside

43:42

linebacker, a big contract over

43:44

the weekend and and it got

43:47

me thinking's heard about this roster and I like Coney

43:49

Ammy is one of the best run stoppers in the league. Although they

43:51

have too highly paid inside linebackers, which

43:53

is this weird two twenty probably

43:56

get rid of Bernardic McKinney. I think it's a fine

43:58

signing, but it reminds me this is not a young

44:00

team, partly because they haven't had draft picks, partly because

44:02

they haven't hit on their draft picks like their

44:04

hope this year. And this is

44:06

it's a dangerous spot to be. It is just like the

44:09

veterans they have have to be

44:11

available and better. It's

44:13

like because because those veterans are pretty good. J. J.

44:15

Watt is number one among them. I mean, they're

44:17

a totally different team when he's out there. But Whitney

44:20

merciless is another guy, Bill O'Brien. The

44:22

GM gave a huge contract to late

44:24

last season after one of his worst

44:26

seasons, and he was not a good pass

44:29

rusher. Last year, they gave Laramie Tunseil

44:31

a huge contract. Smart people say

44:33

he's one of the best in the league. I

44:35

guess he is. He also had the most penalties

44:37

of any left tackling the league. So you you want him

44:40

to be even better, to be to be dominant.

44:42

You want Will Fuller to be healthy to be dominant.

44:44

You want to Shaun Watson if it's possible to

44:46

go up another tier, because that is possible. I mean,

44:48

he's he's only entering what year four

44:51

or five, a couple now away from

44:53

a c L. Justin Reid played

44:55

through an injury. I think he's a really impressive

44:58

player at safety. So it's a bunch of guys

45:00

who are veterans who are just saying, you're

45:02

already really good if these guys are all better,

45:05

Like those guys are Pro bowlers, and this team

45:08

is a lot to deal with it in a division where

45:10

there's really no big favorite. Well,

45:12

they they have been and they continue

45:14

to be a particularly shallow

45:16

team that wins

45:19

a week division because they have stars at

45:22

the top, and it reminds

45:24

me of like the Cowboys ten years ago when

45:27

they had the star power names.

45:29

But if they have an injury or two, then you're in trouble,

45:32

and you know, on top of it, to your point

45:34

that the veterans need to show up and be great

45:37

now. Next year is

45:39

another year where they don't have a first or second round

45:41

pick. You don't pick till the third. It's like there

45:43

isn't You're not really there's not a real easy

45:46

way to add an injection and of

45:48

of young talent and build the way good

45:50

teams do, which is through the draft. I mean it. It's

45:53

an interesting team because of because of Bob's

45:55

unpredictability around the trade deadline. I still

45:57

think that they will do some freaky stuff this here,

46:00

but there's no proof that this plan

46:02

works. Yeah, and O'Brien

46:05

got killed obviously this offseason,

46:07

and I, even as a long time Bob defender,

46:10

I couldn't. But I also think it's

46:12

premature, especially we're talking about a division that

46:15

feels wide open, to think that this team won't

46:17

be right back there will fuller to me is

46:19

the Janka piece, the damnoshetic

46:21

Jenka Pees, because he's so talented and so good.

46:24

If his body just held up, he could end up putting

46:26

up numbers that eclipse what DeAndre Hopkins

46:28

did last year. I think he has that

46:31

level ceiling. Every wide receiver on

46:33

their team is like if his body just holds

46:35

up, Brandon Cooks Randall Cob Brandon

46:38

Cooks, Key Couta. Along

46:43

those same lines, let's talk about the cults,

46:47

because I understand why

46:49

the contingent of cults, cults, hyper

46:51

optimists out there exists. Um

46:53

Philip Rivers is the old star QB with

46:56

something to prove. You have a smart,

46:58

proven offensive mind, head coach, a

47:01

dominant offensive line, and intriguing,

47:03

intriguing rookie running back, a veteran

47:06

number one wide out who still has juice and

47:08

untested but promising second round pick

47:11

at number two, one number three wide out spots,

47:13

and Michael Pittman and Paris Campbell. The

47:16

ceiling here for the Colts is as high as

47:18

any team outside the Chiefs on offense for

47:20

me, But how often

47:23

to teams with that many factors that need

47:25

to go right, does it actually all click. That's

47:27

where I'm skeptical that everything clicks for the

47:29

Cults if it all does look out, they're

47:31

gonna go twelve and four this year, but

47:34

a lot has to go right. Well,

47:36

here's what they have going for them. Even

47:39

if things don't go right, they have depth because

47:41

they've drafted and signed really well. The

47:44

organization is so sound, the structure

47:46

is sound um to me. Outside

47:49

of Philip Rivers disappointing, you

47:51

can get by with the rest of that, with any

47:54

other position disappointing. I mean, if Marlon

47:56

Mack doesn't do well, Jonathan Taylor is there,

47:59

Michael Pittman that isn't there, Zach Pascal,

48:01

who had a pretty good year, is there. I mean, they've

48:03

got options if if guys don't pan out.

48:06

I don't think it's like an entirely hinging

48:08

on Philip Rivers too. I mean, I think if he's

48:10

just not a turnover, it's

48:12

a lot of different things, right, a lot of

48:14

things that hinges on for this offense. The max

48:16

out I hear real quickly. I think

48:19

that like this is another team where Frank Reich

48:21

Chris Ballard, the pairing of them is

48:23

is just very uh, they're in unison. It's

48:25

very hopeful, and you have you can't really look past

48:28

the human side of football and how they

48:30

overcame what happened with Andrew Lucky year

48:32

ago. I mean, it's like this, this is a tough

48:34

this is a tough organization. I like this. I

48:36

like the kind of style of football. I think they're gonna they're

48:39

gonna run on offense and with a seventh

48:41

playoff spot if they're not a playoff team, Indianapolis

48:44

got hit by an asteroid. I

48:46

have them, I have we sent in those picks. I had

48:48

the Colts winning the Super Bowl just because I wanted to

48:50

pick something that would be fun to route for, like

48:53

uh and I think they're they're one of those teams

48:55

outside like the top five most likely

48:57

that that have a shot. A lot of things have to

48:59

go right is as Dan mentioned, but rivers

49:01

is camp has had positive reviews

49:04

that it's like he looks like a guy who's been

49:06

in that offense before. It's mostly short, it's

49:09

not a surprise he has been in that offense. That's

49:11

what I mean. And t Y Hilton, He's he to

49:13

me is the Jena p I mean, because when he's right,

49:16

he's a top five type of receiver and right

49:18

now their connection you can see that working like

49:20

him and Keeenanan Allen Rivers and Keenan Allen

49:22

back in the day. But Hilton's got to stay right,

49:25

and uh, I think I think the upside

49:28

is there. The downside is eight and eight, and I

49:30

get that, But I think they could be a

49:32

three seed that has the magical run.

49:35

They go through bucket board Kansas City

49:37

on the road of the playoffs because there's no crowd.

49:40

What if they're three and five? Do you

49:42

think the backup gets back in? No?

49:47

H really yeah, supposedly

49:50

he doesn't looked good and the week

49:53

to week league all

49:55

right close it out in Division. Mark Sessler

49:57

Tennessee Titans, I think,

49:59

you know, speaking of you know, going into Baltimore

50:02

and going into Kansas City, Tennessee's playoff,

50:04

you know, magic from a year ago fell a little bit

50:06

short, but was one of the more enjoyable developments

50:09

that I can recall in a long time. And

50:11

I think the question for me, I feel like, with as

50:14

much as any team in the a f C, we

50:16

almost have to look at the Titans and say, here's how

50:18

they get back. They get back by the masterful

50:21

Arthur Smith, um Needing his

50:23

two dudes, Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannehill,

50:26

and we spent weeks wondering which what which one will

50:28

they keep? They kept both, and they have to almost

50:30

mirror I think last year's success. I don't feel

50:32

like this offense is built in a way

50:34

to suddenly, hey, let's shift gears and be like

50:37

an air raid offense or roll out

50:39

like the running shoot with Molese Davis.

50:41

Like they are who they are, and we're asking

50:43

Henry and Tanna Hill to kind of duplicate,

50:46

and that to me feels very difficult for both

50:49

of those guys. It's just a lot to ask. In their

50:51

defense always to me, Um, they

50:53

were feisty, but they feel a little anonymous

50:56

on that side of the ball. Still Um Titans

50:59

to me right in the mix. But I

51:02

last year was sort of magical. It can magic duplicate

51:05

itself. I think that's a fair question.

51:07

I don't think you can count on everything going so

51:10

perfectly. On offense. For instance,

51:13

there's no way their play action attack is

51:15

going to be as effective as it was last year. It was

51:17

just it was abnormally

51:19

effective. So to me, the improvement has

51:21

to come on the other side of the ball, and

51:24

that two thousand, seventeen eighteen and nineteen

51:26

first round picks. You needed Dorey Jackson

51:28

to be a Pro Bowl cornerback. You need

51:30

Rashaan Evans at inside

51:32

linebacker to be a tackling machine, and he had one

51:34

of the most impressive goal line stands I've ever seen

51:37

last year in the playoffs. And you need Jeffrey simmons

51:40

um to make Jorell Casey an afterthought,

51:42

and Jeffrey simmons is talented enough to do it.

51:45

To me, those guys have to be absolute stars,

51:47

not just solid starters. It's a fair point

51:49

because when you look at the names, there

51:52

is a chance this defense gets better. They lost

51:54

Dnps, their defensive coordinator. It's

51:56

a little unclear how they're gonna call

51:58

plays, whether it be very able or what they're gonna do. But

52:01

Malcolm Butler actually played better for them last year.

52:03

Like he's not a bad starting corner. You have Kenny

52:06

Vaccaro, as said, you have Kevin Byard in

52:09

the secondary, like you're needing a little

52:11

more pass rush from Harold Landry or Vic Beasley.

52:13

But add up all those names you said with the young

52:15

guys, like there is a top ten defense upside.

52:18

We haven't seen it since verybel has been there, and

52:20

I agree that's what they need because Tannehill it's

52:23

gonna slide back. It's just like, how much is

52:25

he sliding back to like a solid above

52:27

average starter. I think he can do that. He's not

52:29

going to be a top five starter again, it's just too crazy

52:32

to expect. Derrick Henry's

52:34

last let's call it twenty

52:37

twenty three games have been

52:39

as good as any running backs we've seen

52:41

in sometime. Is that sustainable? I

52:44

mean the abuse he takes

52:46

to what they ask of him. Maybe he's still

52:48

young, he's maybe he still has another two, three,

52:50

four years in the tank. But that's another question

52:52

mark. Will he be able to sustain that? The

53:02

masterful Arthur Smith underwell

53:07

Arthur Smith. I think he's an underrated

53:09

OC A great job last

53:11

year. He's the FedEx the

53:14

FedEx air righton?

53:17

Who that's pretty you know? And who who

53:19

tried to kneecap the Washington football

53:22

team helped change their team name his dad?

53:24

I guess. So it's all it's all weirdly

53:26

connected, are Junah?

53:28

Don't be shy with that tranquilizer gun?

53:30

Now? Oh yeah, I forgot it. Let's

53:35

close it out. The a f C West, the great

53:38

mailman will deliver on the defending

53:41

champs, the Chiefs. So

53:43

I was going through Leonard four Nette landing

53:46

spots and the one that intrigued me

53:48

the most, I think was Kansas City. So

53:51

if you have the

53:53

rookie what's name Edwards

53:55

A Layer Clyde

53:58

the glide, So you have him in the old c J

54:01

two k get the lead

54:03

role with a playmaker, play him the first

54:05

half, get the league, let him make plays,

54:08

and then bring in Leonard Fournette and to keep

54:10

the league clock killing rule in the fourth quarter, the old Lendale

54:13

White rule. We you need

54:15

Lendale White to be humble enough to accept

54:17

that role and the paycheck that comes with it,

54:20

and it would mean he has to go through the waiver

54:22

wire probably maybe sit out for

54:24

a few days, nobody picks him up, and then he's like, well,

54:26

maybe my best bet is go win a Super Bowl with the Chiefs

54:28

and then try to get a contract off of that. To

54:31

me, that that's intriguing because I don't like

54:33

the death behind Edwards a laire.

54:37

You know, it's so fortune smiles on the Chiefs

54:39

and ways that it's never done before. Because

54:42

you draft Edwards Hilaire.

54:44

Let's say they hadn't, and then Damian Williams,

54:46

you know that wouldn't change. He'd still opt out,

54:48

I think. And then you're asking about maybe

54:50

Leonard Fournette being your feature back,

54:52

and nobody likes the idea of that. I mean, they've got

54:54

a few other guys there, but that would be messy. Instead,

54:57

I think they're one of these teams they mind me a little

54:59

bit of like the Packer some two thousand eleven. You're

55:01

gonna go fifteen and one and you

55:03

just got to look out to not get waxed in January

55:06

and one of these sort of more stunning playoff

55:08

losses. Uh. It comes to mind

55:10

what a place to be as a franchise. I uh.

55:13

I think also, if for Net doesn't want

55:15

to take that role, maybe call up the real Lendale

55:18

White. I love that. I

55:21

think he's

55:26

that was a fun group Johnson and White

55:28

for like one or two years there. They were good. I I

55:30

do think you can find flaws in this Chiefs team.

55:33

I mean they the defense was bad enough to give

55:35

up twenty four points right off the bat to the Texans

55:37

in the playoffs, which could have ended their

55:39

season for the second straight year. And then we would have just

55:41

talked about how disappointing their defense was all

55:44

all off season. They're starting cornerback

55:47

I think right now is gonna be Legarious

55:50

Need a rookie fourth round pick or

55:52

Rashad Fenton Brelan

55:55

who suspended for a month and so he'll be back. Is

55:57

their best cornerback. It's like, okay, they're

56:00

second best pass rusher is either

56:03

Alex Okaffer you know

56:05

I'm talking about on the edge Brian speaks.

56:07

It looks like it's gonna be uh who's

56:10

that passing young I can never say

56:12

his name is probably starting there. But you

56:14

know those are questions. You know, those are key spots

56:17

cornerback, pass rusher. But

56:20

I mean, I think they might be a very average

56:22

defense in their in their hopes. I guess the

56:24

worst case scenario is that they're they're back to being

56:26

a bad defense. It's

56:30

scary to think about Patrick Mahomes

56:32

being injured for much of last year and what they were still

56:34

able to pull up. But there has not been a repeat

56:36

champion since like two thousand three. It's

56:39

hard to do. I wouldn't pencil it. Pencil

56:42

knet mark he

56:45

took the Ravens have Well,

56:47

that's right, devor

56:50

Broncos. All right, consider

56:52

the current state of the Broncos on offense,

56:55

new offensive corner in place. It's Pat

56:57

Shermer, by the way, new QB coach.

57:00

They got a couple of new offensive linemen, two

57:02

new wide receivers, both rookies

57:05

in a pandemic year. Drew

57:08

Lock, as has been documented

57:10

often here, remains a third

57:12

theoretical answer at quarterback rather

57:15

than an actual one at this point. The offense,

57:17

I don't put too much of this. I'll say it. The offense really

57:20

struggled in a scrimmage this past weekend. So

57:22

I'm just gonna ask, is it's fair to

57:24

wonder if the Denver offense is a prime

57:27

under performer candidate, at

57:29

least in the early part of the season.

57:33

It is fair to ask for all the reasons you

57:35

outlined, but you're not gonna reign on my parade,

57:38

Dan Hansen, plenty

57:41

of faith, look I mean, and

57:44

most of it stems from Jerry Juty, who has

57:47

been, as advertised in camp

57:49

Um, already seen as one of the best route

57:51

runners in the NFL. And it's been phenomenal in camp

57:54

Um. Albert Oh another rookie, the rookie

57:56

tight end looks really good. This team,

57:59

the depth in their skill position

58:02

talent compared to where they were two years ago is

58:04

astonishing. And if they're a little a

58:06

bit of a freestyle team with Lock, it's like

58:08

he makes guys better freestyling

58:11

uh and to the point where maybe their defense

58:13

can carry him. I mean, no, Afan was better once

58:16

Lock got out there. Philip Lindsay was better. Like there,

58:18

Their receivers were better once Lock

58:20

got out there because he can make some He can make some plays

58:23

even if it was out of structure, whereas

58:25

their previous quarterbacks. God in your county. On the defense

58:27

to carry this team, I think when the defense gets

58:30

more than four games this year from Bradley Chubb

58:32

and I like that a lot. And I think Vic

58:34

Fangio is quietly one of the best defensive

58:37

coaches around, you know, I

58:39

mean in ages. My thing

58:41

is like you talk about luck, he

58:44

is masterful. You talk about like I'll tell you, I don't think

58:46

it's masterful as Pat Schremer and I don't. I don't

58:48

Pat Schermer and like Drew Lock, freestyling

58:52

don't fit together to me. I mean, I think he did a

58:54

nice job with the Vikings okay, but I still

58:56

remember Pat Schremer being pinged by

58:58

Michael Lombardi for like people

59:00

calling up Lombardi saying, whenever I watch,

59:03

you know Pat Schirmer's offenses, I know what's

59:05

happening by looking at the formation

59:07

one second. So is this can he do?

59:10

I think what you want with all this talent

59:12

and the question mark is he's the right guy? I don't know. I think

59:14

they'll start slow because of what Dan said to

59:16

I think they are. They could be particularly hurt by

59:18

the pandemic. But the offensive line, especially

59:21

on the end here, does look better. It's always been

59:23

a weakness. They don't really have a right tackle

59:25

after Jown James opted out, but

59:27

that's always been a pretty big weakness for this team,

59:30

and on paper they look like they could be a

59:32

lot better. Dalton Risinger looked great as a rookie.

59:34

Um. You know, they brought in a quality starter in

59:36

Glasgow, and they have a rookie center

59:38

Cushion Berry that people seem to love,

59:41

So they could be better upfront. One

59:43

concern with Bradley Chubb, just keep

59:45

an eye on it. He left the scrimmage early. When

59:48

that's surgically repaired. Me acted

59:50

up. He said he didn't feel right. All

59:52

right, they said it's not serious, but not

59:55

good Oakland

59:58

excuse me, the last Vegas a right as

1:00:01

Mark Sessler. That kind of remind me

1:00:03

a little bit of the Broncos because I look at the Raiders,

1:00:05

I'm like, I can talk myself into

1:00:08

seeing them as a wild card team if things

1:00:10

went right. I think Rooten and you know is

1:00:12

fine. Mike Mayok has just kicked some butt,

1:00:15

is GM. You got Henry Ruggs, you got

1:00:17

Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs, So you can kind of

1:00:19

see it coming together as a a frisky

1:00:21

a f C entry. But then I also look at

1:00:23

like the games that they totally blew last season,

1:00:26

like when I went up, you know, in to watch them

1:00:28

play the Jaguars and a historically

1:00:30

important final game in Oakland, and

1:00:32

they totally blew it by being way too

1:00:35

safe and conservative and not seizing

1:00:37

the moment. And I got screwed by the officials

1:00:39

in that game. We all know it. Oh well, it

1:00:43

is the quarterback in the way of his style

1:00:45

of play. I'm sorry. That capped a four game

1:00:48

losing streak down the stretch where they

1:00:50

were outscored a hundred and thirty six to forty

1:00:52

nine. So I just don't think they're all

1:00:54

there yet. I mean, I they they

1:00:57

just as easily feel like an eight and eight side piece

1:00:59

to me. But I think Greg thinks

1:01:01

they're a little frisky. Does anyone see them

1:01:03

as a sleeping giant what

1:01:06

they need piece? Yeah, side

1:01:12

of the NFL kind of like you

1:01:14

kind of keep that keep them hidden, you know

1:01:16

you don't. You don't ask the team you take out

1:01:18

on Saturday night. Keep them a little you keep

1:01:20

them in the shadows. I think you're right Mark that they

1:01:22

were like a five and eleven team that won a couple

1:01:25

of extra games more than they should. Last year.

1:01:27

They really weren't a good team. But they're a very different

1:01:29

team now. I mean, whether these

1:01:31

transactions work or not, this is a very

1:01:34

young team. They're having their rookies

1:01:36

play a lot. They're having their second year players play

1:01:38

a lot. The free agent pickups that they

1:01:40

had, like Trayvon Mullen is their number one cornerback

1:01:43

right now. After they cut a Mukamara

1:01:46

on Monday, they're counting on these

1:01:48

free agent linebackers they picked up. It's just a totally different

1:01:51

team. It's a good looking offensive line, I

1:01:53

kind of want to believe in this tight end

1:01:55

crew and the running backs. They're gonna

1:01:57

have a lot of heavy sets. They're just gonna be zig

1:02:00

while everyone zagging. And I at least

1:02:02

like that for a little diversity on my on my

1:02:04

Sunday view eat. But

1:02:06

do you believe in the quarterback? No?

1:02:09

I believe he's like an eight and eight side piece. I

1:02:11

guess there you go. Basically eight

1:02:14

made by the way, with an extra playoff spot might

1:02:17

actually gets you into January. And I

1:02:20

think they're nine win type of team though. I I

1:02:22

because I do think that there's so much room

1:02:24

to improve on defense that they

1:02:26

should that even if they're like the twentieth

1:02:29

best defense man, that would be a big improvement

1:02:31

for them. And I do think their offense can be pretty

1:02:33

good. They're powny on their offense. To be a top

1:02:35

ten offense anything lass would be a disappointment. What

1:02:38

linebacking crew improved more than than

1:02:40

the Las Vegas one? I mean, Corey Littleton and

1:02:42

Greg west Is you know, man crush,

1:02:45

that's a good little pairing right there. Quick. Yeah,

1:02:51

the first team, we've run out of things to say. Hey,

1:02:54

we're just an awe and a board, there's

1:02:56

no there's more meat on that Derek Carr side

1:02:58

piece bone, but we don't have time. So I'm just gonna say

1:03:01

I think he'll be okay. I'm gonna

1:03:03

get blocked again. Finally,

1:03:07

Greg closed it out the Los Angeles

1:03:09

Chargers. Yeah, we mentioned um

1:03:12

like the the injuries, like Nick

1:03:14

Chubb for instance. It I mean, Bradley

1:03:17

Chubb is such a mystery right now. There's more

1:03:19

mysterious injury situations around the league

1:03:21

then I think we know because there's less reporting. But

1:03:24

Derwin James's injury on Sunday,

1:03:26

we know, we don't know the extent to it,

1:03:29

but I know that it's the most caught. I

1:03:31

think it's the most costly, big time injury

1:03:33

that there's been since camp started. It's

1:03:36

crushing because I think he brings out the

1:03:38

best in the coaching staff,

1:03:41

getting to be more creative. This is a bad defense

1:03:43

with a lot of talent. Last year they weren't in the top twenty

1:03:45

most efficient defenses, a lot of good players.

1:03:48

I know they didn't have Derwin James, but that's pretty disappointed.

1:03:50

He unlocks the cornerbacks, you know, he

1:03:53

he unlocks his tag team partner Racheion Jenkins,

1:03:55

who played really well. Um, I

1:03:58

just think he's such a unique special

1:04:00

talent. Losing Derwin James is

1:04:03

devastating for this defense, and it's gonna

1:04:05

put a little more pressure on

1:04:07

their offense in Tyrod to score

1:04:09

some points because I don't think you can count on them being

1:04:12

a top five upside defense when

1:04:14

Derwin James is not on the fact. I don't like that

1:04:16

term more pressure on Tyrod Taylor

1:04:18

to score points. I know that everyone is fascinated

1:04:21

with Tyrod Taylor right now and it's it's playing

1:04:23

out and it's not fair to him, but it's almost

1:04:25

exactly well, No,

1:04:27

I think it's like a little bit of the hard knocks

1:04:29

after It's

1:04:31

just that that's what happened in Cleveland. What a leader

1:04:34

like, what a guy? And I think he is And I think the coaching staff

1:04:36

really loves Anthony Lynne, loves Tyrod Taylor

1:04:38

the person and wants Tim to be functional.

1:04:41

But the problem is Tyrod Taylor stops

1:04:43

being fun about three weeks from now, and then you

1:04:45

got a rookie quarterback that comes

1:04:48

into coaching him. He did, he had

1:04:50

some moments to be fair when when he

1:04:53

was in Buffalo. In Buffalo yes,

1:04:55

not in Cleveland, And I mean I just think that there was.

1:04:58

I don't know, come on, I mean, Austin Ekeler to me is

1:05:00

the centerpiece on that offense, I believe

1:05:02

in until the end. But their wide receiver position he's

1:05:06

not. But look at their wide receiver positions. So what how

1:05:08

do you you want to talk about scaring the defense with

1:05:10

a mobile quarterback but they can't do anything they

1:05:12

have to. They're gonna they're immobilized.

1:05:15

How how versatile they can be through the

1:05:17

air. I think it's a rough place for Justin

1:05:19

Herbert to get starts early too. I don't like that

1:05:22

at all. Receiver

1:05:25

with Mike Williams injured, is jailing

1:05:27

guiton good luck like um

1:05:32

seems to me like a Leonard Fournett possibility

1:05:35

for a landing spot. But Joshua Kelly, the fourth

1:05:37

round rookie, is getting as much

1:05:39

hype out of that camp as anybody on the team, So maybe

1:05:42

they don't need Leonard Fournette there. This

1:05:45

feels like one of those eternally

1:05:47

snake bitten franchises. Remember

1:05:49

writing about Durwin James earlier this summer. If

1:05:52

the people that track these guys say

1:05:54

Derwin James as special as anybody that's

1:05:56

come out of that position in decades,

1:05:59

and now for back to back years before the season

1:06:01

starts, he's getting ripped up by injured leader

1:06:04

too huge, right, hopefully

1:06:06

he's back midway through. I took him as my number

1:06:08

seven seat. I believe in you, Tyrode.

1:06:14

What a way to go out a masterful

1:06:16

performance, you know what, Just unleash one

1:06:18

more dark please, just for the heck of it. He

1:06:24

likes it. He's actually into the tranquilizer

1:06:27

juice. Finally,

1:06:31

that was that

1:06:34

was good? All right? We just went around the

1:06:36

a f C and forty eight minutes and we will, we

1:06:38

promised before a kickoff Chiefs

1:06:41

Texans a week from Thursday. Hit

1:06:43

the NFC as well. And you

1:06:45

know, if you're a long time listener that this is UM

1:06:48

a fun time of the year on the podcast where we really

1:06:51

ramp up UH in terms of season

1:06:53

preview and looking ahead and making predictions,

1:06:55

all good stuff. So make sure you

1:06:57

check in Wednesday with our show or a

1:07:00

rundown show our NFL

1:07:02

Network program that we tape UH

1:07:04

and airs on Saturday morning, and

1:07:07

UH West We're just happy to have you for another

1:07:09

Monday with Wes session. Well,

1:07:11

if the time he works out, excuse me, I want in

1:07:13

on that NFC forty eight minutes

1:07:16

and we do have a little bit of breaking news. Time

1:07:19

for breaking news. Yeah, hit it. Logan

1:07:26

Ryan as a home former Tennessee

1:07:28

plays New England. Paid billion dollars five

1:07:32

million from the Giants. Pretty good

1:07:34

at this point. They

1:07:37

needed him, they need him. That

1:07:41

is a huge pickup for them. We were just talking about how their

1:07:43

defense, which is not good looking even

1:07:46

before DeAndre Baker and these

1:07:48

injuries. Uh, they needed

1:07:50

somebody. Can Logan Ryan play the guitar

1:07:52

the way they need him to? Maybe

1:07:56

not? Uh, Logan Ryan,

1:07:59

guy that had big numbers that Tom Brady

1:08:01

picks six at the end of the playoffs. But some people

1:08:03

say he's a little limited. I guess it depends

1:08:06

on how you use them. Hopefully you won't

1:08:08

get exposed. He's a solid guy.

1:08:10

He's he's immediately the best player

1:08:13

in that in that secondary and

1:08:15

he's a grown up there that can play.

1:08:17

They just they just didn't have. They didn't have guys that you

1:08:19

could just put out there that you could feel comfortable.

1:08:22

Weren't gonna just get fill aid. I mean, I still

1:08:24

think there they were a defense. If

1:08:26

you're a fantasy guy's going up against the giants,

1:08:28

you're gonna be everyone you're

1:08:32

selling James Bradberry short. Oh that's

1:08:34

true. I take it back. I'm blanking

1:08:36

on Bradberry. What better way to do it than,

1:08:38

you know, take the entire offseason

1:08:41

as your personal vacation and cash a seven

1:08:43

point five million dollar check. Uh,

1:08:45

you know at the eve of September, you

1:08:49

can make it happen. All right, that's

1:08:51

it. Thank you, our Junifer stepping into

1:08:54

Ricky's shoes. You killed it

1:08:57

under difficult circumstances. No

1:09:00

pressure, O, Diamonds. I

1:09:03

did my best. I did my best and

1:09:05

it was good enough. All right. This is

1:09:08

Dan Hanson signing off for

1:09:11

the Mailman, the

1:09:13

Quiet Storm, the Old

1:09:15

Boss, and Diamonds

1:09:18

behind the glass. I mean that's a good anybody.

1:09:21

Anybody would be happy to be Diamonds. It sounds like

1:09:23

a prepper. Two Wednesday,