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Welcome to another episode of the Around the NFL

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Podcast. Greg rose thal in

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this week for Dan Hansens in the host chair in

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the Chris Westling podcast studio, surrounded

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by a room filled with heroes,

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Mark Sessler, Patrick Claybon.

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Let's get after it.

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Let's get after it. Why not, we're

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here, the lights are on. Yes, let's

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let's acquire.

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It's another beautiful sample centered around

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perhaps.

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You Pat Oh, I

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forgot?

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I do want to hear the new Patrick

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Clayban theme song songs

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really throughout.

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This episode when it just feels right.

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Eric, but this one especially

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puts me in a nice mood and

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a cloudy, uh, kind of stormy day

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here at NFL Network.

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You're whimsically waiting

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through uh, a quaint neighborhood.

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Do you feel they've captured you had some issues

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with them not actually capturing maybe your

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full personhood in some of these.

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Well, I mean, how could you hit a thirty second song?

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The van contains multitudes, but.

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Yeah, this is yeah,

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we I talked over the best part, but yeah,

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it's you.

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Were going to play these for your for your

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wife at some point in the household, and.

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We have not I should have gotten

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to that point.

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Okay, use it when you need it.

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We're reminding you,

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well, yeah it maybe it's not going to work

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in the way Mark and visioned.

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Well, no, I just I think it's a it's a you don't

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just you you find that right.

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Which is just a hammer drop.

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I would say, I would suggest maybe

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just play for the whole family and say, isn't

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this cute?

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There's something fun at work today? Yeah,

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with daddy.

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Yeah, that's I don't think it's using it

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to its maximum potential.

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But that's fine. We'll see.

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Hey, it's your progative, it's your Hey, there's great

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news from work. And then it's like, oh what is

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loads of it?

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How are you doing? Mark?

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I'm good, thank you. I arrived

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here very very early this morning.

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I mean, how are you doing this week without Dan? You

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know, famously you started

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this podcast on the back end of the damaging

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program without me and without you know, and without

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West.

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So you and Dan go back further. It's like

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a missing appendage for you.

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When he is out of this it is it feels

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I feel it's two weeks in a row where we haven't had our full

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cast.

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I don't I find it.

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Typically i'd be one that's not here for one of those

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two weeks, so to be the person here it's been odd. But you

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know I also went when people on vacation, we have a code

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not to f with each other on text, and

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like I texted Dan once or twice and then felt bad about

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it. It's like you're forgetting he's not even in the continental

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United States right now, so.

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It's where he is. It's like six hours earlier, I

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believe. So you don't.

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You don't want to be thinking about work when when you're gone,

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but you know it's unavoidable.

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It happens when you're

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built for it. Look, we're built for it.

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It's April fourth, we're only

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three weeks away here from the draft sneaking

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up on us, and we talked top

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ten mock with Josh Norris

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earlier in the week. This week, we're going to

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go through as many teams as we can get

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through with burning desires

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Penny into this NFL draft. You know, a

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basic show might call them,

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you know, team needs or whatnot. But this is

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a little deeper than just like a need. Yeah,

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sometimes your body needs something, but sometimes

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your body has a

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burning desire. Yeah, wants and needs are not all

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created equal, and these are burning desire, right.

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And some of these teams, you know, with what's even happened this

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week, I can think a few teams suddenly like we've got

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major holes to fill on our roustler. And look,

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we've hit the top ten pretty hard. So we're going to try

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to mostly focus on teams outside the top ten.

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But if we have some that we haven't

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really hit on within the top ten or a

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special need, there's no rules

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in these games.

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We will do that.

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But before we do that, we got a big time

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trade to talk about.

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So let's get to some news here.

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Allen, out of the gun, takes the high stop, throws should

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have left it the five flowers his shoulder into

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the enisode touchdown Buffalo,

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a three yard splash from

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Allen to Diggs and the Phils

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leading nine to three.

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That was the Divisional round

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game winning touchdown by Stefan

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Diggs during the twenty twenty season,

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his first in Buffalo.

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His last proved to be the

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twenty twenty three season. He is headed

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to the Houston Texans. And I did want

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to play that clip just as a reminder

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because I think it's getting lost in these last

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few days. What a

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ridiculous success the Stefan Diggs

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trade to Buffalo was not

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that I should have to point this out. That was a season where

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he led the NFL by the way with one hundred

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and twenty seven catches fifteen hundred

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and thirty five yards in only four seasons.

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He had well over five thousand yards

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for this team, and they were, you

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know, by some measures

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in terms of point differential and everything

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like that, and wins like as successful

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as any team in the NFL over the last

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four seasons, not named the

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Kansas City Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes,

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but he is headed to Houston.

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It's a fascinating trade. I think there's

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a lot of angles we can get to. Let's start from the

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Buffalo side. Mark,

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when you saw that this happened

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on Wednesday, did it

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feel to you like it came out

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of the blue? Were you surprised?

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Where do you want to go with it?

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I read it

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described as sort of stunning and shocking,

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and very few stories hit

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that world for me at this point. But I think

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we had talked about open mysteries to

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the offseason and think like unfinished

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business coming out of last season even the year before.

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It's like, what is the future between Stefan

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Diggs and the Bills. And so from that angle,

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I am not stunned by the move. I think

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what they got for it is going to rankle

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feathers with Bills fans, and I understand that the

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money side of it is a labor for

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the front office this season. But I

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feel like in terms of Stephan Diggs,

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this is Stephan Diggs the person, like the player

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fell off a cliff a little bit after Joe Brady took

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over. He was, you know, top three in

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yards receiving, led league

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in receptions, you know, when they were about five

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and five, and then the coordinator switch happened

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and Stephan Diggs was not used the same way. I don't

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really buy this. He's not the same guy anymore.

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I think he can go have a great one year at least

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with the Texans. But the Bills, I

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think have gone into a soft

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reboot mode a little bit, and Diggs

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his future here felt a problematic.

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Just was too many reports instances

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ideas that behind the scenes he was difficult

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and there was a schism between he

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and Josh Allen, and I'm starting to believe that that was

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more true than I might have six

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months ago.

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And the schism, essentially

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right, wasn't something

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that developed in twenty two if we're to believe

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I'm a skeptic about I don't think

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Stephan Diggs is a demonstrably different

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person in twenty twenty four

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than he was in twenty twenty two. I

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think the groundwork had

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been laid a long time ago by

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taking people who were prone

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to say those sorts of things and giving them

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the information to say, oh,

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you know, the Bills, and there's frustration

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all the Stefan Diggs this, and then you

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get all these smoke fire conversations.

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I think Stefan Diggs is one of the better receivers

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in the National Football League. I think Brandon Bean

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does. I think Nick Cassario does right.

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But the Bills, as we a conversation

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we have all the time about the Saints about

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managing the salary cap.

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There's different ways to do it.

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The Bills went down a particular route,

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and now that they are within

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the consequences of the particular route that they went

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down, and I

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don't think that they're a better football team. I think it's a preposterous

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idea to say that the vibes or it's

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like, oh, you know, he was a problem

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and the relationship, I mean, get open

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and have your spectacular quarterback throwing the ball

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like who cares. He was

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a part of a change, a shift in this

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franchise where Bills fans saw

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incredible success because he was.

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There, right, I think that's all true, and

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yet I do think in sports sometimes

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the relationship runs

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its course for whatever reason, and these

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are humans. And being

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said as much, Patrick, he admitted,

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like, look, the Bills, especially

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for the twenty twenty four season,

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are in a worse place today than

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they were yesterday.

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Are we better today? Probably not.

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Yeah, it's a work in progress

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and we're going to

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continue to work on that. I would

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just hope that people know I'm

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as competitive as hell, and I'm not.

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I ain't giving in.

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I've I

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want to push back a little bit on this idea that though,

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yes, the Bills are resetting and making

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some hard decisions and they're going to be a very

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different team next year than they were this

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year. But I see

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where being is I mean from in the sense

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that it's like, why wouldn't they be one

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of the absolute favorites in the AFC.

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Still, I do think people are just

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jumping to this idea that they're like a deeply

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diminished team when I look at their roster and

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I see one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL,

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the best offensive line that the Bills have had

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since they've been there, some young, exciting,

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dynamic talent in Kincaid

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and Cook and Shakir who aren't ready to be like superstars,

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but it's something to work with.

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You do still have the rest of the offseason.

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The Bills have shown and they don't have much

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cap room, but they have shown that they're good at picking up

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different little pieces. And then when I look at the defense,

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like it's a really good defense and it's a

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really successful coaching staff.

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So to me, I look at them.

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They've defended their title

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in the AFC East three years in a row,

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four total, done it three

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times a defensive and I look

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at it and having gone through it

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as a Patriots fan and seeing what the Chiefs have done

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in other successful organizations. A lot of

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times when you go into a season and there was

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a lot of change, but the quarterback and the

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coach are really good and kind of the bedrock of what

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the team has been good. That's the year everyone

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sleeps on them and it's like, no, a lot

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of what's good about this organization is still

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there.

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And the odds are they're not going to make.

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The super Bowl this year, because the odds are every

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year no one team is going to

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make the super Bowl, especially in the Patrick Mahomes

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era, and then people will be disappointed in them.

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But I would put them right

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there with the Chiefs or behind the Chiefs as

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one of the most likely teams to

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make it back. And sometimes

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hard decisions have to be made. And I

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do think this was just a

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personal thing. It was a financial

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thing and a personal thing that they were going to take this

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crazy, big cap hit at

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some point when they divorced from Diggs, and it could

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have been this year, it could have been next year, and they kind

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of decided maybe this year makes more sense when we

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can get a second round pick back.

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And there's just a lot going on and it feels I

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guess the.

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Confluence of all those issues, Yeah, that's why the

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move happened. And I don't think it's that

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big of a mystery, But in terms of just

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keeping the Bills situated right behind

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the Chiefs with Josh Allen

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like and the fact that they're an incomplete picture, and they

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could pick up three wide receivers in the draft and

11:09

one of them could hit, and then you've found you're justin

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Jefferson possibly right, But that's

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an incomplete score right now.

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We don't know what's gonna happen.

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But from a perception angle, if you're a Bills

11:18

fan and your Super Bowl window

11:20

is sitting there wide open, and you move on from

11:22

six of your eight captains from a year ago, the

11:25

team does look different. And I think Brandon Bean at least

11:27

is being honest, like, I don't know if they've gotten better. I

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don't think we have at this point, but we'll see what's

11:31

to come.

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And that's the thing, and I appreciate the honesty because

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it's just a preposterous to me, right,

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a preposterous idea to say that Stefan Diggs

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was that much of a problem emotionally,

11:42

that he was holding the team back that much

11:44

and that was the reason why you got right out of

11:46

your own stadium in the snow against

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the Bengals, or the reason that everything

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fell apart last year. I understand

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there was a crucial drop in a playoff game,

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but the reason he's dropping the ball because he's open.

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Right to drop

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a ball like that, you have to get open in the first place,

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Like he's still capable of doing that,

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And like Marquez Valdez,

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Scantling was making great plays in the bad So

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were you thinking like MVS is greater than stuff

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on. It's just I just have a

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tough time believing that the downside

12:16

of not having them on your football team anymore. Going

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to another game in the AFC that

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is probably going to the playoffs, you could could

12:23

seriously consider the possibility that you're playing good

12:25

stuff on Diggs if you're fortunate enough to make it to

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the playoffs. I don't necessarily

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buy that the bet. I get it Greg that they're still a good team,

12:32

but I don't.

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I don't buy that they're better.

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I just think sometimes these

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are humans and the smoke

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that we're talking about, like there

12:42

were there were issues here in terms of him staying

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away from the team last year. They had

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certainly they had the blow up after the playoff

12:49

loss that that he was upset about, and I

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heard I heard information, and they talked

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about that, and I you just heard

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publicly from Josh and Steffan that it wasn't

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maybe as tight as it used

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to be. And I did think it was interesting that Brandon Bean

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talked about Josh Allen being

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informed at various stages

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of this process that, yeah,

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despite all the reporters passing along the

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news, like I saw something in the Athletic that's

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like, oh, they fully planned to

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have Digs on their roster and they weren't just blowing

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you know, hot air.

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They've finally just gotten off or they liked.

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It's like, I don't buy that, especially when I hear

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this from Brandon Bean.

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Josh and I have a pretty regular conversation

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on things, and I think

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it's important for me to make sure if

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I think something could happen, to

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make sure he's not blindsided. And so

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I would, you know, without

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going into the discussion with Josh

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when the last time we spoke was, I

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did alert him that, you know, there

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had been some inquiries and it

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wasn't one off the table.

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I mean, it's just that, you know, I think this

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this was a possibility going back for a while to

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the Combine meetings. Now what's happened.

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It happened quickly this week, and

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I'm with you, it's personal. Like I think Tim Graham on The Athletic

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wrote a pretty involved, intense

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piece about, you know, point by point of

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what happened. But I would just say in general,

14:12

like, if I'm the rest of these AFC heavies, I

14:15

would be annoyed that you just

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turned the Houston Texans volume up even

14:19

more. Like you want to tell me about a team that's right

14:21

behind the Chiefs on paper, It's not the Bills.

14:24

To me, it's the Texans.

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And it's like, thank you Buffalo for making

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this AFC, you know, evolving

14:30

powerhouse even more glowing and

14:32

unusual to deal with.

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Okay, yeah, let's hit it from the Texan side, because

14:36

what an offseason that they have had. They

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give up a twenty twenty five second

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round pick, but oh, by the way, they

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got a Day three pick, a Round

14:45

five pick this year back, and

14:47

a twenty twenty five sixth round pick back.

14:49

And the more I thought about, I was like, wow, those

14:52

two picks are pretty significant. Someone actually

14:54

did the you know, trade value

14:56

chart of those two picks, one of them

14:58

being this year versus the second round pick

15:01

next year, and it's like, yeah, the Bills

15:03

win that trade in a vacuum, but like

15:06

just in terms of the picks being traded,

15:09

but not by that much.

15:10

So actually it was.

15:11

Almost like a face saving move that, Okay,

15:13

we did get one second, but we had to give

15:15

up two picks back plus

15:18

Stefan Diggs, and so that

15:21

really makes it look like it was more

15:23

of a salary dump than

15:26

anything.

15:26

It was a mix.

15:27

It was a salary dump more than

15:29

getting the draft asset. And Houston

15:31

has to be freaking thrilled

15:34

that they have Nico Collins, Stefon

15:36

Diggs, Tank Dell, and Dalton

15:39

Sultz as their top four pass

15:41

catchers. And oh, by the way, you like Noah Brown, John

15:43

Metchi, Robert Woods are still on this roster.

15:45

It's gonna be a great group

15:47

of in terms of competition, in terms of depth

15:50

on that team, it is awesome. And

15:52

I think Stefan Diggs is gonna give

15:55

you the best

15:57

Stepan Diggs possible at thirty one, not that

15:59

you weren't getting it Buffalo, but he

16:01

is going to be ready and he's going to be on

16:03

a team that can use him. And maybe the numbers aren't

16:05

quite as high as peak Buffalo days. Because there's so much

16:07

competition for catches, but that he is

16:09

still a really dynamic receiver for CJ.

16:12

Stroud and gives and.

16:13

Gives the Texans so much just

16:15

in terms of opportunity and what they can do. And

16:18

not to mention that they bring in Joe

16:20

Mixon the off season as well, who's

16:23

soaked it literally almost never came

16:25

off the field for the Bengals. So he had two AFC contenders

16:27

that are going to have a couple of their best offensive players

16:30

playing against them potentially down down

16:32

the stretch and maybe even in the playoffs. But it's

16:35

there's so much because you go from a group that's

16:37

like young and exciting, and Brown

16:40

comes on mid to late last season as

16:42

well, and it's like where are these contributions

16:45

and then there's just so much

16:47

and it's it's almost like where's the where's

16:49

the crack going to be?

16:51

Like what's what's the flaw?

16:52

And it's yeah, the roster is like is

16:55

pretty wild on offense considering where

16:57

they were two years ago. I mean, very

16:59

few team have transformed that quickly

17:01

like the Bills around Josh Allen did and

17:04

now they're going in the other direction. You kept Bobby slowick

17:06

and this stuff on Diggs thing does not need

17:08

to be a three or four year commitment. The guaranteed money

17:11

runs out after this year. If he turns into

17:13

a problem or he doesn't, he's the

17:15

same player. You don't even have to have him on this roster next

17:17

year.

17:18

Right.

17:18

There is something to me about wide receivers

17:21

landing a new spot and just you getting

17:24

the best possible version of them for

17:26

a year or two. Not like you wouldn't later,

17:29

but I just think it's a natural human

17:32

thing that you land in a new place and

17:34

you want to be at your very.

17:34

Best a new house guests and these are very polite and then

17:37

like if they're there too long and their border like.

17:39

In terms of Digs, like he'll have a Hall

17:41

of Fame case someday if he continues

17:43

on this path.

17:44

I think of someone who.

17:46

Was like, oh yeah, well, like I tweeted

17:48

this out that like, multiple things can be true. I don't

17:50

think it was a crazy move by

17:52

the Bills in this spot that it might have been

17:54

time and and okay, but

17:57

it also is an amazing

17:59

move for the Texans and they're going to get the best

18:01

version of Digs and got a lot of responses

18:03

from Bill's well, how are you gonna get the best version

18:05

of him coming off his worst season at thirty?

18:08

When does that ever happen?

18:09

I was like, Okay, well, if you wanted

18:11

to ask Randy Moss, Terrell

18:14

Owens in

18:17

the way that I'm talking about this Steve Smith

18:19

at aged thirty five in Baltimore,

18:21

and like, yes, Steve Smith and some

18:23

of the like in Smith's case, he had at

18:25

her numbers sometimes earlier. But I mean the best version

18:27

possible where it's a career resurgence,

18:30

it is an excellent player, and guys

18:32

that get open like Diggs, that that travels

18:34

in slok will I think know

18:37

how to use them.

18:37

And Nico to me is

18:40

a is a one.

18:41

Basically he's a T Higgins maybe,

18:44

and and so Digs and him are ones

18:46

together with Dell. It's just it's

18:48

freaking amazing because the Texans are ready.

18:50

We're going to be a team that people myself

18:53

included thought like, I don't know, why

18:55

can't they make the Super Bowl this year? And this puts

18:57

it on another level. I

18:59

think they need some interior offensive line help.

19:02

I do think there's some issue there. They

19:04

don't have any guys on their defensive

19:06

line other than Anderson, which is a big other than that,

19:08

they've really developed it or any younger, So

19:10

they need some people for the future there. They certainly

19:13

need a cornerback other than Derek Stingley.

19:15

This is not a perfect team. Their defense was playing

19:17

better late last season, but they were kind of averaged throughout

19:20

last Like, it's not a perfect team, but

19:22

man, I would not be surprised if it's Texans

19:25

Chiefs kickoff.

19:27

Especially when you consider CJ.

19:29

Streup that was not just first season, but

19:31

Bobby Slowick's like first play college,

19:33

Like, there's only an opportunity

19:36

to go up here. I guess unless, right,

19:38

the whispers about Stefan Diggs,

19:40

maybe he goes in and he ruins everybody's relationship.

19:43

I'm just okay, happen

19:46

to me.

19:47

On specifically what Stefan Diggs

19:49

did.

19:50

So well, there are like there are anecdotes

19:52

of him just generally that when

19:54

like when his brother tweeted out that

19:57

he should be not on the Bills

19:59

rescue him kind of thing, and he had a chance to

20:01

address it and he didn't. He stuck up for his brother, not

20:03

the Bills. And there were like four or five situations

20:05

like he did have a tweet this is well,

20:08

I don't think that there's stuff we don't know about it tweet

20:10

him.

20:10

I don't think it's anything crazy, but he did have a tweet

20:13

this week that was literally

20:15

a day before this trade, whereas

20:18

you can't make this up. At the Peaky Pirate

20:21

asked Josh benefit from having a top tier

20:23

receiver?

20:24

Yes, is he essential to success? No?

20:26

And Diggs responds, you sure, and

20:29

it's it's it's just these little things,

20:31

and I think it's natural because of

20:34

course Josh benefits and it's essential.

20:36

To have like great receivers. But it's

20:38

all.

20:38

I just think it's been a little bit of a credit

20:42

issue between Diggs and Allen

20:44

and that it might have been a little bit of an impersonal

20:46

thing.

20:46

And it is what I heard.

20:49

Between them when they were yelling and stuff that I do

20:52

think there was a little bit of like

20:54

who is more important to this team?

20:56

Who made who?

20:57

And if you're the two most important players on

20:59

your team, have a little bit of

21:01

an issue in terms of sharing credit. And we've

21:03

seen this from the best players of all time.

21:06

It's happened the best organizations of all

21:08

time. It broke up Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones for twenty

21:10

years broke up. Stean Davison K that's an

21:12

issue, then then maybe okay,

21:14

that's the time in there having an interpersonal

21:17

thing and it's it's totally natural, but

21:19

it.

21:19

Maybe it's a time to break it. It really happened in Minnesota.

21:22

It's we wish we could

21:25

have managed things a little less differently yas

21:27

the time and what are we doing right

21:29

now with the opportunity that.

21:30

We have to try to be successful?

21:32

Yeah, And if you're telling me that, if you

21:35

can't just get over it and

21:37

make it work with a very talented person,

21:41

then I question, I

21:43

question how much you really want

21:46

to win.

21:46

But if you've just went through a season where

21:49

you went into that season as an issue and then

21:51

you came out of this season and you feel like no one

21:53

solved it, whether it's Stefan Josh, the

21:55

coaches, the front office, then I

21:58

just think in football like

22:00

they can, they can still be a strong organization.

22:02

And maybe you're right that they're taking they know they're

22:04

taking a step back. By the time didn't didn't

22:07

feel crazy to me.

22:07

I just think you added the other the money

22:10

side of it, the fact that you get to pick out

22:12

of it on some level his age. Maybe you

22:14

don't believe that with the dude, the offensive corner

22:16

they have that he thrived last year and it just kind

22:18

of all fits together. I mean, but there's a

22:20

track record of stuff on Diggs being a

22:22

slightly diva ish wide

22:25

receiver at multiple stops like that, Like

22:27

that's that's a hymn thing.

22:28

He's the through lines.

22:29

The money side of it is crazy, though. They're

22:31

taking a huge dead cap at over thirty

22:33

million dollars to trade one of their best players,

22:36

which really hurts, and they probably were gonna have

22:38

to take a similar issue hit

22:40

if they did it next year, and they just decided

22:43

let's take it all this year. They're not gonna spread

22:45

it into next year, being talked openly of

22:47

Actually they have a little less cap room now.

22:49

They'll be able to freeze them up with one of their post

22:52

June first but they have very little

22:54

money to spend.

22:55

They're gonna have to sign their draft picks.

22:57

It is crazy, and it's

22:59

mismannered that you are taking

23:01

that big of a capit to get rid of one

23:03

of your best players on a contract you signed

23:05

a couple of years ago. That's that's a mistake,

23:07

and and you it's partly, I

23:10

would say, even largely because of the mistakes

23:12

you made elsewhere on the roster, primarily

23:15

von Miller.

23:15

And it does help with perception, perhaps on

23:17

the fan base side and probably on the ownership

23:20

side, if you float a lot of

23:22

conversation about how insufferable

23:24

this person is, but makes

23:27

it.

23:27

But to be fair, I to be fair,

23:30

I don't think it's out of not infer because I

23:32

don't think it's insufferable. But I think Stefan Digg's

23:35

heart essentially supported the idea

23:37

that, like there were some issues there between

23:39

him and Josh Allen. When your brother's out

23:41

there saying that, and you know, yeah,

23:44

if the money is the same, passive aggressive

23:46

ways on that side too, to maybe get out of there.

23:48

Yeah, if the money is the same and you're in building

23:50

full of people that don't want you there, then why

23:52

would.

23:53

You be there?

23:53

Uh?

23:54

Yeah, I could talk about this one forever.

23:57

It is really a fascinator.

24:00

Not that feels a little bit like I just

24:02

mean like it is one of the more fascinating trades

24:05

I can remember in a long time in

24:07

terms of great players still playing well.

24:09

Going from one contender to another.

24:12

One is an example Houston of

24:14

a rebuild. And I don't really believe in rebuilds

24:16

in the NFL, but you gotta say Houston

24:19

did it. They got lucky because

24:22

look, CJ. Stroud could have got taken

24:24

number one, and they would have taken Bryce Young and maybe

24:27

very you know, a lot of this doesn't happen, or

24:30

there are various things you get lucky.

24:32

Or maybe Bryce would be successful.

24:34

I mean, right, well, they got lucky that

24:36

they were able to trade their last quarterback for like four

24:38

kingdoms.

24:39

But they they went through a couple a

24:41

couple of seasons where it was truly

24:44

tear it down to the studs. Nick Casario

24:46

is still there, and just a couple of years later

24:48

they are now competing for a title

24:51

and the Bills are doing the thing that's even harder, which

24:53

is the most successful run they've

24:55

ever had since since

24:57

the lost Super Bowls. To

25:00

me, like the most consistent team in the

25:02

NFL over the last five years other

25:04

than the Chiefs and the Digs. Is

25:06

what put them over the top. That trade

25:08

was an absolute sick success. The

25:11

thing that was crazy to me was yesterday hearing

25:13

some people pushing back on that it was like that

25:15

was an absolute win no matter how

25:17

this ended, do you agree? Bills fan Eric

25:20

Roberts before we take a break, looking back

25:22

on his time with the Bills, I mean it was fun.

25:25

I'm not gonna lie, but he will be remembered

25:27

because I mean the end was messy.

25:29

It could you know, have gone.

25:30

A breakup's never easy,

25:33

but things were definitely different between him Josh's

25:36

first few years in Buffalo. Hey, we

25:38

played Madden together. We're brothers, and that

25:40

kind of, like Sideline love kind

25:43

of evaporated, and you know, obviously during

25:45

games you see him kind of john at each other,

25:47

and the Bill's fandom is like Josh

25:50

is the savior, you know, so that people

25:52

are gonna side with Josh. I mean, he don't

25:54

get me wrong. I I have a dig signed

25:56

jersey in my closet. So like he

25:59

was pivotal, essential to

26:01

the success they've had over the last four seasons.

26:04

But I think in many ways

26:07

they found a way to win without him. I

26:09

mean, like Mark kind of pointed out when they

26:11

did this run to make the playoffs. He started

26:14

the season I think five out of six games one

26:16

hundred yards and then he kind of just wasn't

26:19

there, so I think they found a way. I think they're

26:21

going to go through Kincaid. I don't think Curtis

26:23

Samuel and Shakir and

26:25

Hollins are.

26:27

They're not the answer. They're not the answer, But piece

26:29

is. I think where you need to find, you got James

26:31

Cook.

26:32

Josh Allen is RB one in

26:34

most cases, I just think

26:36

it's a change of times.

26:38

All I'm saying is the Bills went

26:40

let's count him up from nineteen

26:42

ninety nine until twenty nineteen,

26:44

so that is a clean twenty seasons

26:47

without winning ten games. They

26:49

got that ten win season before Diggs

26:52

arrived there, but that team was a little lucky

26:54

to get there. Then the next

26:56

four years thirteen wins, eleven

26:58

wins, thirteen wins eleven and if you look at the hold

27:01

on, if you look at the point differential, though even

27:04

better than the Chiefs the last couple of years. They

27:06

have been one of the best teams in the NFL for

27:08

four street season. Digs isn't by the

27:10

only reason why, but he is a big reason.

27:12

That's that's fine because relative to

27:14

what the Bills fans and what the Bills dealt with

27:16

for in eras in a row. I

27:18

get it, but there's still three

27:21

four other teams that won the Super Bowl during the

27:23

Stephan Diggs.

27:24

Yeah, and I know it's not met.

27:25

It's like it's nice to have a thirteen win season and eleven

27:27

win season, but it's like, I don't want to hear that they're

27:29

more successful than the Chiefs and some

27:32

some some subtilities like.

27:33

Not in the tangle. The Chiefs win super Bowls

27:35

as a team, right. I didn't say the Chiefs.

27:37

I'm just saying other than the Chiefs,

27:39

like they've been as consistent in what I don't know,

27:41

but a team

27:44

that is successful, because you're going to be

27:46

looking back on these as the.

27:48

Good old day.

27:48

I had a blast watching Digs

27:50

in no way in my life. Good riddance. I mean,

27:52

you know, there are some things to stick out because of the messy

27:55

end to it all. But like I loved having step

27:57

on the team. I don't see I don't definitely

27:59

I've you that we are not the Bills are not better.

28:01

I mean the crazy thing is they had a legit chance

28:04

to win the Super Bowl last year. I mean they

28:06

they played them even in that game and they didn't

28:08

come through, and who knows what would have happened,

28:10

but it didn't happen. We're gonna take a quick break and then

28:12

we're gonna get to burning desires

28:15

of teams around the NFL.

28:24

He's from Alabama, you're

28:28

just hair has a lamaabon.

28:36

Yeah, but you've just been to a barber

28:38

where you've found here, So I don't know, am I I'm

28:41

still in the lama ring.

28:42

I'd have to investigate alama closer,

28:44

but maybe a lama after

28:46

they were shaved down that you know, it gets hot

28:48

in the summer.

28:49

I lived near a lama farm growing up, not

28:51

a lie. Uh, and you know they

28:53

got to shave them.

28:54

Yeah, were they Were they meet lamas

28:57

or were they?

28:58

No?

28:58

They do lamas for what would you

29:00

call it? Would that be wols?

29:01

Actually don't even Yeah, I think that's

29:03

why they had them.

29:04

Was a lama farm in Massachusetts. That's sort

29:07

of not the first place I would target for that.

29:09

You know, where I grew up.

29:09

There are all sorts of farms in western Massachusetts,

29:12

fruit farms, animal farms.

29:16

But yeah, I'm

29:18

not gonna name it.

29:19

You know, maybe he doesn't want his name out there, but yeah,

29:21

a guy, a kid who was in my class his

29:23

family owned the Lama farm. And yeah,

29:25

once it started getting hot, you see those Lamas

29:29

there goes the wall.

29:30

Is that it No, it's

29:33

in Wilbraham, Massachusetts.

29:35

Is well, don't don't do them out.

29:37

It's fine.

29:38

Maybe maybe it'll be on another farm though

29:40

it'll be good for business. I have no idea if it's still open,

29:42

but it was right nearby. And no,

29:44

I don't think there's that much of a resemblance between

29:46

Patrick and those Lamas. But look,

29:51

if Lamas looked like Patrick Claybond,

29:53

people would like Lamas more. I feel like lamas don't

29:55

get a lot of love out there. You

29:58

know who's gonna get a lot of love. Teams we haven't talked

30:00

about in a little while, so, uh,

30:02

we're gonna go through as many

30:04

teams as we can, uh,

30:08

and we're gonna talk about the

30:10

burning desires that

30:12

these teams have heading into

30:14

the NFL Draft. And I guess I would put

30:17

it to you guys, we'll try to get through as many as

30:19

we can. I know team, you know, everyone likes to hear their

30:21

team talked about, So we're not gonna go too

30:23

long.

30:23

But I would say.

30:25

To my friends Patrick and Mark

30:27

just I think start as strong as you can,

30:29

because we don't you never know how many we're gonna

30:32

get through the most burning

30:34

of desires where the loins are just on

30:37

fire.

30:37

Start with those, and let's start with Mark Stesler.

30:41

I have been

30:43

looking around at a number of different teams, and the

30:46

one that stands out for me in terms

30:48

of, like you've got a glaring hole. Now are

30:50

we saying this has to be like the first

30:52

round? It's somewhere

30:55

because it's not the greatest position. If there's a number

30:57

of teams out there that that I think

30:59

need uning backs.

31:00

Okay, all right, because I think it's just issues. It

31:02

doesn't matter where you fill them.

31:04

And it's and we do talk about this team, but

31:06

I look at the Dallas Cowboys as a team that like

31:08

they've made They've shipped around their offensive

31:10

line a little bit. It's not the strength that it

31:12

was once and it hasn't been for years. But like, you've

31:14

got issues at center potentially, but they're starting

31:17

running back is douce Von, who I

31:19

think is an interesting We went to training

31:21

camp and kind of fell in love with them.

31:22

Maybe Rico Daubto, I would say,

31:24

but if they had to play a game today, right.

31:26

And there's whispers that they're going to bring back Ezekial

31:28

Elliott, which to me just flies in the face of everything

31:31

that they're attempting to try to tell anyone

31:33

that they're doing. They're doing very little. There

31:35

are a couple decent running backs in this draft. Maybe

31:37

it's not first round, but I need

31:40

to see this team bring in some juice

31:42

and bring in some youth and not re sign

31:45

Zeke Elliott who is three or four years

31:47

away out from being the guy he

31:49

once was.

31:50

Yeah, and the bargain shopping, just

31:53

if I know that there's been a whole lot

31:55

of all in criticism, like anytime

31:57

anybody else does something, it's oh or the cow

32:00

really all in. It can't

32:02

be just bargain shopping

32:04

the whole way through and trying to get a draft

32:06

steal, like at some point they have to be proactive,

32:10

enshuring a significant part

32:12

of what this offense has been in the past

32:15

four to five years. And I'm

32:17

with you, Mark, Zeke can't be the answer. And

32:19

I don't even know who the running back would be

32:22

if they were to try to reach in

32:24

round two or something like that.

32:25

It's a horrible.

32:26

It's a short but we

32:29

say that, and there's a

32:31

lot of good rookies that come out in the middle

32:34

rounds every year, and some of these seem

32:36

excite.

32:36

It depends on who you listen to.

32:37

Trey Benson or Marshall Lloyd sound to

32:39

me like guys who would have a chance to come

32:42

in and fill two hundred and twenty

32:44

five carries at a high level

32:46

if you can block for them.

32:47

But that that's.

32:48

Part of the issue. I'm glad you mentioned the Cowboys.

32:50

They were one of the eight or so teams

32:52

I had the biggest star round because

32:56

pick a position. This roster suddenly

32:59

has also sorts of issues. Interior

33:01

offensive line major issue.

33:04

I'm assuming Tyler Smith is gonna play left tackle,

33:06

but he was one of the best guards in the league I

33:08

thought last year, so it could

33:10

be left tackler guard. But like suddenly, you

33:13

really need a center

33:15

and a guard. You need a running back. That was next

33:17

on my list. I think you need a wide receiver.

33:21

You're okay for twenty four with Lamb

33:24

Cooks and Tolbert, but you need to start

33:26

developing another receiver there.

33:29

They kind of fell apart last season

33:31

because they didn't have anyone to play linebacker

33:33

when vander esh got her, and like,

33:35

linebackers are no longer important

33:37

until the point where they're like ending the seasons

33:40

for the Eagles and the Cowboys, and I think there's

33:42

gonna be a little bit of a correction, and like they've

33:45

kind of reached last year for Mazzie Smith in

33:47

the first round in Luke Schoonmaker, and maybe those two

33:49

guys work out after quiet rookie years, but

33:51

they need Mozzie Smith to start right now because they don't

33:53

have any defensive tackles. So that's like, that's

33:55

another position where they have about as

33:57

many screaming needs and as many stars

34:00

and like wins over the last few years as

34:03

any team. But man, they have a lot of

34:05

big ones, a lot of burning design.

34:08

I was looking for just in

34:10

terms of bad offenses, trying to go

34:12

through something for another show, and

34:15

I sorted by.

34:16

The wait what you do other shows?

34:18

Yeah, there's there's a couple gotta

34:20

hitch your bets.

34:21

I mean, can you be specific here? Who

34:24

is their enemy?

34:25

Well? No, it's this was for.

34:26

Path, a path to the draft and NFL

34:29

going through team needs, so you know, the rising Todde

34:31

lifts all boats. But I was I was.

34:33

Looking Standel Teremiah on it so kind

34:35

of an enemy, but.

34:36

Okay, I was looking for the teams with

34:38

the lowest average separation. You know,

34:40

the Cowboys are in the bottom three of the league. MM,

34:43

like what that was? That

34:45

was surprising to me. I know Dak throws a lot of

34:48

you know, tight window passes, and it's

34:50

just everything shouldn't always be

34:52

so hard.

34:54

Well that isn't that like a Mike McCarthy offense.

34:56

Yeah, trademark where it's like go win

34:58

guys, and scheme isn't

35:01

getting you open.

35:01

Like that's why they got sick of them in Green Bay.

35:03

And so like I understand, you know, it's twenty twenty

35:06

four and we're not gonna build the whole offense around a running

35:08

back. But as good as Deck

35:10

is, maybe take something off of his plate.

35:13

Yeah, just every once in a while.

35:14

That was.

35:14

That was the complaining an off season ago. And

35:17

it's gotten worse.

35:17

All right, Patrick, hit me with another one. All right, another

35:20

team.

35:20

Let's go to another place that has a burning

35:22

desire. A

35:25

burning desire to me is when

35:27

it's really a need, like it's

35:30

it's obvious to you and everybody else

35:32

did.

35:33

When you walk in the room. That's what you want.

35:36

And we're gonna have Nathaniel Hackett's

35:39

offense coming back and having Aaron

35:41

Rodgers, which I would make the argument that it's.

35:43

Aaron Rodgers offense.

35:45

And the Jets have been very proactive,

35:48

but they have a burning desire

35:50

not just for a position for

35:53

Brock Bauers or Romo Dounze

35:55

Woo. They need Aaron

35:58

Rodgers to look out there and make eye contact with somebody

36:01

and do something based on their matchup

36:04

that's completely independent of

36:07

Nathaniel Hackett.

36:08

Weill said.

36:10

And I think it's gotta be one of those

36:12

two players.

36:13

Considering where they're picking in the draft.

36:15

If everybody's running to get quarterbacks,

36:17

if somebody jumps up and has

36:19

a higher opinion of Quinon Mitchell or Tryon,

36:22

if they've got to get one of those two.

36:24

I kind of love this.

36:26

I especially think Bauers fits for

36:29

a couple of teams, and like I almost

36:31

thought the Jets for a candidate.

36:32

To maybe even trade up if they really.

36:34

Want to go all in and get like Marvin

36:36

harrit It's like you go get the best wide receiver in

36:38

the draft. If you want to trade up with the Chargers, but

36:41

the charger zone burning need makes

36:43

that a little difficult. But if you replace Alan

36:45

Lazard with a dunn't see, then you've got Mike

36:47

Williams, who, like Mike Williams,

36:49

is probably gonna miss five or six skeedus.

36:51

He doesn't need to be open to make a catch.

36:53

To Patrick's point, I just.

36:55

Think like you.

36:56

You just you'd have the best

36:58

wide out group in the league if the

37:00

rookie plays up to what we think it

37:02

can be.

37:03

Yeah, that would be sexy. And those are three

37:05

guys like Garrett Wilson gets open on his own, a

37:07

Dunez, and Mike Williams, to me, is one

37:10

of the best contested catch receivers in

37:13

the NFL.

37:16

I'm gonna I didn't get this this Alaurien

37:18

Yu during my opener,

37:20

So next time, I hope, I do.

37:21

I hope to.

37:27

The New Orleans Saints.

37:29

They make a lot of mistakes in

37:32

their front office, and they survived,

37:34

and they're in the middle and sometimes

37:37

they just like a player too much and

37:40

they give up multiple first round

37:42

picks to move up

37:44

and sign a project by

37:46

the name of Trevor Penning that

37:49

was in the first round a couple of years ago.

37:50

Sometimes they get hooked on a guy

37:52

and it works. It's Chrys a lobby.

37:54

And then sometimes it's Trevor Penning who seemed

37:57

to be in the doghouse and they wouldn't play them

37:59

even Tho when they were playing the fourth string left tackle.

38:01

Now they're entering a season right now without

38:04

really any left tackle. I guess it'd

38:06

be maybe Landing Young, maybe it'd be Trevor

38:08

Penning. And I look at this team and I'm

38:10

I just look at like they don't

38:12

have a third receiver. It's a lobby and Shaheed,

38:14

but you can survive without that. And I

38:16

look at this position, and it's

38:19

always concerning for a front office

38:21

when you have a burning desire for a position

38:24

you just tried to fill a

38:26

couple of years ago.

38:27

But this guy seemed to get into.

38:29

Some sort of interpersonal issue with the

38:31

coach, which is also a feature

38:33

of this organization. Not a

38:36

bug, or it is a bug, I don't know.

38:37

It is a feature. It is a feature and a bug.

38:40

And that's the that's the most painful

38:42

thing about it is that I had this as

38:44

a burning desire myself, right you did.

38:46

Because it was a burning desire.

38:48

I was in there in New Orleans during

38:50

the draft, and it was so obvious

38:53

that they needed a tackle, like that

38:55

was what they were going to do. And so they

38:58

get Trevor Penning and and there's

39:00

the foot issue, and then there's

39:02

Liz Frank and it seems

39:05

like this is, as Michael Thomas pointed out on Twitter,

39:07

like this is a recurring theme where

39:10

somebody has something and then it's well,

39:13

let's see how it goes, and then the player has

39:15

to get surgery on their own time, not during the season,

39:18

and then they're late getting into the next season. And

39:20

you wonder, you know, if Ryan

39:23

Ramchick could have had that surgery

39:25

that he had in February, if that's a December

39:27

surgery, are things a little bit different now?

39:31

And so it's it's back. It's

39:33

back as a burning desire, and

39:36

do we start this whole process over

39:38

again or do they they maybe try

39:41

to move up, use whatever they can to

39:43

get them more.

39:44

Now, this is a deep class, so if nothing

39:46

else, I think they could sit there and take one. But it

39:50

it's disappointed. I'm glad you mentioned Ramcheck. Dennis

39:53

Allen told reporters and I don't think we mentioned

39:55

it on the show that his procedure

39:57

is not recovering as quickly as hoped.

39:59

And he's had a lot of injuries.

40:01

He was a really fantastic pick, a fantastic

40:04

player whose injuries

40:06

have caused him to miss significant time and he hasn't

40:08

been as effective.

40:09

And there's been little whispers even about like.

40:13

Not retirement because they renegotiated his contract,

40:15

but just like his knees in a lot of trouble. So that's

40:18

two major issues for

40:20

the Saints. I do want to hear the music behind you

40:22

at this time.

40:23

I do too.

40:27

I can think of someone out there that went

40:29

through a breakup.

40:34

This individual engineered it and

40:37

so he's probably not the one feeling the heartbreak.

40:40

But Sean Payton and

40:42

the Russell Wilson relationship, which you know,

40:45

a calendar.

40:45

Year ago, there was hope that he could make

40:48

the most out of it.

40:49

Well that's over, that's out the door. And

40:52

I can't think of another coach in the league. While everyone's

40:54

heming and hauling and keeping secrets about what

40:56

they want to do, Sean Payton has like openly

40:58

talked about like the Arizona Cardinals.

41:01

Another team sitting up there, the Chargers

41:04

in absolutely enviable positions

41:06

for someone like him who has his eye a wandering

41:08

eye on a new quarterback, because I don't think Sean

41:10

Payton wants to after last season,

41:13

mine in the year two and do nothing in

41:15

this position. Now he's in a tough spot because

41:17

likely four of them will be gone

41:19

if they can't.

41:20

I'm saying, if they can't engineer.

41:21

A trade up that that was our last episode's

41:23

concept and we didn't have them doing that, then

41:27

you're looking at probably someone

41:29

like bon Nick's out of Oregon to

41:31

be Sean Payton's quarterback. And the more

41:33

I've gotten into this player, I'm not saying

41:35

it's the fifth quarterback, and that's risky and

41:37

you don't have to you don't want to sell the farm on it.

41:40

But he's accurate, he's.

41:42

Athletic, he's got pocket poise,

41:45

he's got a little bit of a running game to him. It

41:47

sounds like someone that Sean Payton could work

41:49

with. He's a heady quarterback. It's

41:52

not ideal, but if you're Denver less,

41:54

ideal is coming out of this with no quarterback

41:56

at all and trying to make

41:58

it through a depressing, one more depressing

42:01

year in Denver. Well, probably Russell

42:03

Wilson's like as the way football works, Russell

42:05

Wilson's in Pittsburgh, like winning games,

42:08

or like a Steelers team that's five and one.

42:11

Bo Nicks does make a little sense

42:13

to me for them, just maybe

42:15

not at twelve, like it's a little rich.

42:17

Hit him in the second round, get him in the third round.

42:19

Maybe, like a lot of times.

42:20

These quarterback, especially the fifth sixth ones that

42:22

we talk about maybe going you could trade down back

42:25

to like high, don't go as high as you hope,

42:27

because then then you're really reaching for

42:29

talent. Those comments from Peyton

42:31

at the owners meetings really made

42:34

me take a step back because you know, I've

42:36

watched John Payton from AFAR for a long

42:38

time and the way he uses the media is

42:41

one of a kind. And I guess

42:43

the way I would say he uses the media

42:46

very often is he does not tell

42:48

the complete truth to them, you know, so

42:51

like, why are you throwing it out there that

42:53

you want to trade up? It's like, okay, well then I

42:55

just and it's this time of year, I'm not breaking any

42:57

news that almost any coach in GM

43:00

talking about their draft plans, you

43:02

can look askance at why

43:04

is he throwing that out so hard at

43:07

an odor as being because when I hear

43:09

that, I sort of assume he means the opposite,

43:12

which is that he's not going to be doing that.

43:15

I don't know, but maybe he's like Jedi.

43:17

Mind tricking me to the point

43:20

really is it's going to require a Jedi mind trick

43:22

to go into the season with Jared Stidham and Tanucci.

43:25

Right, he did say, you know, Jared Stidham is going

43:27

to have some serious competition. He did not want

43:29

to entertain any questions that like that.

43:31

Maybe he meant maybe he meant from Bin

43:33

Denucci right, that sounds

43:35

serious the wrong way us coming. I

43:38

do think it be

43:41

aware of Galaxy branding things that shot.

43:43

I think like Sean Payton may be

43:45

telling the truth okay a lot of times,

43:49

which is something he's got in trouble for saying

43:51

too much of the truth. But yeah,

43:53

I think the player they want to trade

43:56

for is Caleb and that

44:00

opportunity seems to have passed, and so

44:02

like, what's what's he willing to give the

44:05

farm for?

44:05

They do have more draft capital than people would

44:08

realize. Like I keep thinking like Husse of the Russell wasn't

44:10

in there, like they have no they have a bunch of draft picks.

44:12

Like, they also have a lot

44:14

of needs.

44:15

Like, what is a position group that

44:17

the Broncos feel great about?

44:20

I like, I don't see one. The offensive

44:22

line, eh, like Patrick

44:25

swattans'r best player. And they still need cornerbacks

44:27

right Their second cornerback was picked

44:29

on mercilessly. Although they did find someone

44:31

in jo Quon McMillan. It was a nice story

44:34

for a nickelback. You know, Simmons is no longer

44:36

like I guess they feel okay at safety

44:38

Cadence Terns and Brandon Jones.

44:40

I don't I don't even know.

44:41

There's not a position group you look at and you're like, well,

44:43

that's the identity of the team. That's a

44:46

huge strength. I they are very

44:48

very uh milk tested me. You

44:51

know who else is not milk toast is

44:53

that.

44:54

There is a Cardinal.

44:57

They don't even have any milk in their toast.

45:02

I heard I

45:04

heard one one podcast.

45:06

It was Bill Simmons with Mena Kimes saying that

45:09

a lot of people going big on the over

45:12

six and a half for the Cardinals right off the bat,

45:14

and there's this idea I like the Cardinals coaching

45:16

staff that the Cardinals are this team on the rise, and

45:19

then I go to our lads dot Com NFL

45:21

depth charts and I look, the

45:25

entire roster is a burning desire.

45:27

I have a burning desire for their entire defense

45:29

to be improved. There's very little

45:31

talent on it. Wide

45:34

receiver would be another position. They've

45:36

got an offensive line, they've got a quarterback, They've

45:40

got James Connor. They really don't have much

45:42

else. Their entire defense, I would say, is

45:44

as talent poor. I would put it thirty

45:46

second in the league out of thirty two. So

45:49

to me, that is a burning, burning desire,

45:51

and they inherited a tough situation. I

45:54

really believe in the coaching staff. I think this is gonna be

45:56

a good coaching staff based on what I saw a year

45:58

ago, and that can improve your team.

46:00

But man, they need a talent infusion.

46:01

I think they're going about it the right way, trading back, getting

46:03

more picks last year, and you hope

46:05

those picks hit. I think they had a good draft last

46:07

year. They might be trading back again. But when

46:10

I see a burning desire that I

46:12

see the fire of Jonathan Gannon saying

46:14

I need some players to go along with this scheme that

46:16

is working pretty well.

46:17

Because I do not see a lot of strengths on this team.

46:19

I see a whole lot of weeks shooooo

46:22

shoo.

46:23

I think if you're a Cardinals fan, if you're watching

46:25

what's happened over the last like thirteen months, you

46:28

have to be extremely encouraged.

46:29

I'm with you on the coaching staff.

46:31

I will say this, I get it, and I get

46:33

it, like we have encouraged from the bottom

46:35

of the barrel to next. But to me, it's like,

46:38

I think you look at this and it's like, man, they have a lot of work.

46:40

If they hit on the draft picks.

46:42

Though, because I think the master plan is like they it

46:44

feels to me it's like eighty percent

46:47

that they trade out of the fourth spot, and then you've

46:49

got let's say it's the Vikings the most likely

46:51

trade partner. You've got the eleventh and the twenty

46:53

third, and I think you address maybe

46:56

edge, maybe it's Dallas Turner for instance, at

46:58

eleven, if you ever got down there past the Foel Welkins,

47:00

and then you get your wide receiver at twenty three, and you've

47:02

had two major needs addressed, and you have accrued

47:05

probably additional picks and everything else.

47:06

It's a corner or it's like an interior off

47:09

depends why. I mean, the good part of needing something

47:11

everywhere. And yeah, and they might be pushing back

47:13

to Cardinals fancying, hey we hit on Garrett Williams last

47:15

year. Yeah he was a good rookie, but you still need

47:18

more than one. And Buddha Baker like, you could

47:20

almost improve any position on

47:22

the roster other than I think you feel pretty

47:24

good about tackle and quarterback.

47:26

But when those are your needs,

47:29

it does put you in a position where if

47:31

you're in a trade down spot, you can fill

47:33

a couple of those spot. You can get down into

47:36

the early teens, take a shot at Jared

47:38

Verse, you get your edge, you

47:41

know, depending on how you want to fill things

47:43

out. But if it's not because I think

47:45

the easy idea is

47:48

stay and take Marvin Harrison junior,

47:50

right, that's the.

47:51

Also not the worst idea, Yeah, not a bad one.

47:53

If that's if that's the problem, then then you're

47:56

in a good spot. I mean, of course you'd like to have better

47:58

talent on your own, absolutely, but it's

48:00

there's not a situation like this is in a Saints

48:03

type situation. We have to stay and watch

48:05

everybody pick and then gee, I hope we get a

48:07

tackle because like this.

48:08

Is this is clearly what we need. That

48:10

they could do whatever they want, all right.

48:12

What I want to do or what I'm asked

48:14

to do. Take a quick break.

48:17

We'll be back after that. I don't trust Greg during these

48:19

breaks. Who knows what he's gonna get.

48:20

Up to, especial when desires burning.

48:22

Yeah,

48:31

we're back.

48:32

We got burning desires, and I got a burning

48:34

desire to hit as many teams as possible.

48:36

So we're gonna try

48:39

to go even faster with this last

48:41

little segment. And uh, I'm

48:43

gonna start with a burning desire of The Miami Dolphins

48:45

feel like they haven't gotten a lot of attention this year.

48:47

It's offseason. I like what they've

48:49

done. I like their roster. They

48:52

got a sneaky desire.

48:53

They've spent a lot of money on Jalen Phillips and Bradley

48:56

Chubb, but they've also lost a couple of big

48:58

time rotational edge guys this year.

49:00

One of their artist, Phillips is coming off

49:02

of torn achilles. One of them's coming off of

49:05

a torn acl and I look

49:07

at their front, their edge, and then especially

49:09

defensive tackle right

49:12

next to those edges, and I see a big

49:14

holes on that Miami front. So

49:16

I think that is a position group,

49:18

whether it's interior

49:21

or the edge, planning a little bit for the future

49:23

that they need because Jalen Phillips and Browley Chubb

49:25

might not be ready for week one, and it's unfair

49:28

to expect them to be kind of full Jalen

49:30

Phillips Browleychubb in week.

49:31

Yeah, people have linked like Byron Murphy, that

49:33

would be good. Exist that makes sense. I flip

49:36

in and say that they ow an issue at left guard

49:38

like they cannot. I just don't like the idea of

49:40

not having the best possible offensive line with Tua

49:42

the way he is.

49:43

But you can do baby, can coach, Yeah,

49:45

can coach. I mean you can do both. You can do in the second

49:47

and third round. And yeah, I think they've done a good

49:49

job coaching up.

49:50

Aren't a lot of great guards in this one.

49:52

But the offensive line, Yeah, the interior

49:54

offensive line jumps

49:56

out there to me because they've done so much right

49:59

in terms of still they the skill positions on the

50:01

team that you're not even necessarily worried

50:03

about it, and you think, you know, considering

50:06

the way that they can play, and when you.

50:08

Might want to plan a little bit for the future. I did think

50:10

about writing down third receiver, but for

50:13

now they're You're right right to say that that's not a

50:15

burning desire.

50:15

That's just like a little that'd be nice.

50:17

But I feel the

50:19

intense heat emanating off of the interior

50:22

offensive line right as right, as

50:24

well as you know some spots on the defense, all

50:26

right, Mark.

50:29

I am the most fascinated outside

50:32

of Houston with the Los Angeles

50:34

Chargers under Jim Harbot because I think that you know, up

50:36

up at number five, if they don't move, they're

50:38

gonna get They probably get Marvin Harrison Junior.

50:41

That's nice and that addresses a lot of issues, but there's

50:43

still going to be like this run

50:46

heavy, old school team from

50:48

like nineteen thirty six. I think it at certain

50:51

times if they're up and they want to do that, and it's like Gus

50:53

Edwards I like a lot actually, and I think he fits

50:55

well and like he's obviously got the hardbass

50:57

stamp of approval from his Baltimore time

51:00

as well. But I'm looking

51:02

at what they do at the running back position

51:04

too, and I know we'd mentioned that for the Cowboys. So there are a couple

51:06

teams competing for running backs later on. And

51:08

then I'm like realizing, you can go Jonathan Brooks

51:11

from Texas. I watched some of him. Interesting

51:13

player, But then there's Lake Krum from

51:15

Michigan. Literally John or Jim Harbaugh's

51:18

old running back, not rated as highly by

51:20

most and not maybe you know Derrek Henry

51:22

part two, but just like, what will Harbaugh

51:24

do to I think he's gonna want like four

51:27

or five running backs to compete and

51:29

like lead the league and rushing attempts. And so

51:31

I just want to see, because there's so many Michigan

51:33

players in the draft, how many Jim

51:35

Harbaugh Michigan players link

51:38

up through this whole process.

51:40

I think I think we may get a couple.

51:42

But I also don't think considering

51:44

because we've seen how much of the Ravens

51:47

staff is in

51:49

Los Angeles now, like how

51:51

much that shared that it's not

51:53

just the self scouting that's gone on in

51:56

Michigan. But Harball's

51:59

not coming into this being completely unaware of

52:01

and if this isn't like a an urban Meyer

52:03

type situation where gosh, just free stylin

52:05

and doesn't necessarily know what the players are

52:07

and who the competition is. I

52:10

do think that while if the players

52:12

in the right spot, we will see Michigan

52:14

guys over there.

52:16

But I do think the

52:19

general view.

52:20

Of how Harball is going to run this

52:22

thing, especially starting with the draft, might

52:25

not necessarily be the ultimate turnout.

52:27

I do think the world is kind of open.

52:30

I do too, and I think a wide receiver

52:32

is very possible at that pick. Everyone thinks they're

52:34

just going to talk off the offensive line because he's

52:36

so into the offensive.

52:37

Line at five. We'll see at five, right with

52:39

you. They're

52:42

exciting. They have a lot of needs losses.

52:45

Oh well, you know, we've talked a lot about the

52:47

Houston Texans. But sometimes

52:50

you look and see how happy the neighbor is

52:53

and you start to wonder about your own relationships.

52:55

And I think the Jacksonville Jaguars

52:58

have a burning desire, not

53:00

just for talent in general. But

53:03

let's discuss the cornerback situation

53:06

and then the secondary situation in jackson

53:09

A great football mind, and

53:11

Greg Rosenthal pointed out to me, despite

53:14

my excitement about the twenty twenty three Jacksonville Jaguars

53:16

before the season. There are some real problems

53:18

in the secondary, and those problems

53:21

did hold up, and there

53:23

are some cornerback needy teams in front of the Jacks.

53:26

I'm looking at the Indianapolis Colts. But let's say

53:28

there's a Quinnyon Mitchell or a kool

53:30

Aid McKinstry or a Terry On Arnold. I

53:32

think one of those guys could fulfill a

53:34

burning desire for the Jacksonville jack

53:37

Yeah.

53:37

I think it was probably a debate what's their

53:39

biggest need, like an interior defensive lineman

53:41

or a cornerback, and then they get

53:44

our Armstead and then that kind of answers

53:47

that question. They need a wide

53:49

receiver too, I really believe it, and

53:51

I think they'll be open to it at that point in the draft.

53:53

There is a chance that it's Brian

53:56

Thomas, but maybe they look at someone that it's a second

53:58

round pick at wide receiver. But they seemed

54:00

very much like a cornerback wide

54:02

receiver type of team. When when you

54:05

sign Ronald Darby, who who I've always

54:07

kind of liked it.

54:07

He's like, he's a.

54:08

Little better than you think, but he's that guy that kind

54:10

of gets signed to late in the mix to

54:12

fill in for your starters and then plays more than

54:15

you think and you're like, oh, I was a good signing this time.

54:17

He was like an early signing because they were just like,

54:19

we need someone to start worth signing him. If

54:21

that's your number two cornerback, you need you need

54:24

more, you need more in the future.

54:25

They were.

54:26

They were lost in the woods without

54:29

Christian Kirk the end of the season.

54:32

It was a direcese.

54:33

They did not expect them, fell out the side of the earth.

54:35

They did not expectation Calvin

54:37

Ridley. They really thought, I think it was

54:39

going to be Ridley gave Davison z uh

54:43

and Christian Kerk still reasonably

54:45

deep. I like the Devin Duverney signing. Let's

54:49

stay in the division. The

54:53

Colts just keep keeping their guys, That's what they

54:55

do. They signed Julian Blackman's safety

54:58

this week. Thought that was a nice move. But

55:01

they need more. They need more pizzazz around

55:04

Anthony Richardson. Keeping Michael Pittman is not

55:06

enough. You need another receiver. This is another

55:08

team I look at as receivers and cornerbacks,

55:11

receiver and cornerback like they need

55:13

them both. They're not they don't have enough juice with

55:15

Gus Bradley and their defense. And they tried with

55:17

a couple of picks last year at cornerback and they're young there,

55:19

but they could add another, but they

55:22

keep taking receivers and Alec

55:24

Pierce right now looks like kind of a foul ball

55:27

that's not really working out. Josh Downs, I think is gonna

55:29

be a solid single, especially for a third round pick.

55:32

Maybe even better than that, maybe a double.

55:34

But I think they need more juice at wide

55:36

receiver and cornerback.

55:37

Those are two positions.

55:38

Yeah, cornerback release stands up. But it's like, we

55:41

don't know a lot about Anthony Richardson. I like

55:43

what we saw, but it's like, of course, just

55:45

like keep giving him targets

55:48

tight ends wide receivers because their

55:50

overall wide receiver group is just kind of like blah

55:54

bowl of an all ice creams.

55:55

Let's get some guys who can make some plays on their own.

55:57

How about you.

55:58

More, Let's go out to Seattle.

56:00

Ooh ooh, yeah that was wait.

56:02

New coaching staff. They've

56:05

got defensive tackle needs. You

56:07

could look at a couple of different parts of the defense,

56:09

but I am focused on the interior offensive

56:12

line to keep Gino Smith

56:14

safe, to open up the ground game. They've got

56:16

four guys right now competing

56:19

for the center and two guard

56:21

spots who have a combined sixteen starts

56:25

in professional football, and some of that's

56:27

developmental. And you always hear them

56:29

say we like our young guys, but it's like in

56:31

a pretty solid offensive line

56:33

draft, like whether it's you're going to get a different

56:35

tackle to move somewhere around, Like, let's

56:37

just keep working on this offensive line.

56:39

That was where I'd start with Seattle, and it was

56:41

bad last year.

56:42

And I think it's the reason why I

56:45

pushed back against a lot of the Gino

56:47

criticism from a year ago, because the offensive line

56:49

really struggled and if you kind of divorced him

56:52

from like plays he was protected,

56:54

he he did really

56:56

well. They also need an edge,

56:58

Like to me, they just keep I don't

57:01

know what they're doing on defense exactly. Mike McDonald

57:03

comes in and they bring

57:05

an Aiden Dirt to be their defensive curdinate

57:07

dirty from Dallas, the

57:10

defensive line coach from a totally different system. So

57:12

I think that's good. He's like welcoming in different thoughts.

57:14

It's gonna be Mike McDonald's team, though, but

57:17

they've been just kind of picking around

57:19

the edges here in general.

57:22

They fix their linebacker position, they sign Jerome

57:24

Baker, Thrill Dots and kind of or at least change

57:26

their linebacker position. But they just keep

57:28

adding all these edges that are just like, okay,

57:32

like boy Mafe, Darryl

57:34

Taylor Nuosu was a good

57:36

signing. They drafted Derek Hall in the second round

57:38

last year that didn't exactly work. Like they still need

57:40

like a guy that's a dude, like an un

57:43

they keep They have a lot of good twos and threes,

57:45

they need a one. And I think when I think

57:47

about a Mike McDonald defense, I think you definitely

57:50

want that.

57:50

Yeah, and especially considering because

57:53

the Ravens defense on the interior

57:56

last year is just a breakout year on

57:59

the part of Justin Madeak, Davian

58:01

Clowney had his best season in

58:03

a very very long time, And you just wonder, who's

58:05

the Who's the guy that's gonna play seventy

58:07

five percent of the snaps right out there on the

58:10

edge, maybe get eight and a half none

58:12

sacks and isn't really coming

58:14

off the field. And I think they've tried. I

58:16

think that's what the MAFE pick the Taylor pick,

58:20

and.

58:20

And it's the same GM.

58:21

So it's a little that's where like where

58:23

they are is a little confusing to me. Not confusing,

58:26

but it's just a different sort of overhaul that John

58:28

Schneider, the guy who in theory was making

58:30

the pick, although we know it was him and Carroll.

58:32

Now it's really just Schnyder.

58:34

So now the problem is fixed. Pizza.

58:36

Well, no, I don't know that. I

58:39

just I think they've got a chance. I think they've got a

58:41

chance to be pretty good. Actually, they have a lot of.

58:43

Things that you would want.

58:46

I'm going to talk about te

58:49

might feel like it's kind of gotten.

58:51

It's under the radar a little bit of the forty nine ers this offseason,

58:54

just because they haven't done a lot. And when I look at

58:56

their offensive line

58:58

especially, but I would look at cornerback two

59:01

of like, they

59:03

always make the offensive line work, they

59:05

always make the cornerback room work.

59:08

And you can't pay everyone, and this is the salary

59:10

cap era, and they're paying money

59:12

to their receivers and

59:14

Nick Bosa and they're gonna pay Brandon Nyuk hopefully.

59:17

I think that will happen eventually, you gotta

59:19

get cheap elsewhere. Man,

59:21

wouldn't it be nice to have some like badass offensive

59:24

line. You've got Trent Williams and just four guys

59:26

you coach up, and then you got Tarvarius

59:28

Ward and some guys you coach up. And

59:30

so I think this is a draft issue that they're only

59:32

gonna get these premium players if

59:35

they can hit on draft picks, and that it's a

59:37

tough needle thread. You can find your AYU deep

59:39

in the first round and that'll change

59:41

your team. And to me, they could really use

59:43

that cornerback and especially the offensive line

59:46

instead of coaching them up enough to be like good

59:48

enough, Like let's have some bad asses. Trent

59:50

Williams is not gonna be, you

59:52

know, at this Hall of Fame ridiculous

59:55

level forever. And cornerbacks.

59:56

I could see them as a candidate to trade

59:59

up if they love a tackle and they can swing

1:00:01

a deal to get just to not wait until

1:00:05

thirty one to get the guy if it's

1:00:07

if there's a run on tackles, and I agree, like

1:00:09

they could get someone to come in and compete at right tackle.

1:00:11

And Trent Williams is still there, but it's like, be

1:00:14

aggressive. You're the Niners, Like, don't wait

1:00:16

for the third or fourth, fifth best option.

1:00:18

The salary cap is real, I

1:00:20

always you know, it's an exaggerationing state. It's

1:00:22

not real, but it can be negotiating for more for

1:00:25

more teams than not. It's harder to find

1:00:28

great to good players to use

1:00:30

that cap space on. The forty nine ers are the exception.

1:00:33

They keep finding these great players so much that it

1:00:35

really is an issue with them

1:00:37

in terms of team building that it makes John

1:00:39

Lynch have to really hit these picks.

1:00:41

And I just feel looking at their roster they

1:00:44

again are kind of at a point where they need to start

1:00:46

infusing the next

1:00:49

super duper stars, and that's tough to do.

1:00:51

And especially when so many

1:00:53

teams are in a position where

1:00:55

it's even worse than the forty nine ers up front,

1:00:57

like they don't have a Hall of Famer at left tackle to

1:01:00

say, well, at least that right, at least that's

1:01:02

there.

1:01:03

True and a coach that seems to make it

1:01:05

work.

1:01:05

Yeah, And they're competing against the

1:01:08

rest of the league which is in a similar position

1:01:10

of need where now, thanks to

1:01:12

their success, more than half of the league

1:01:15

is running the same.

1:01:15

Offense right where everybody's

1:01:18

looking for the same player.

1:01:19

I know that, and picking ahead

1:01:21

of them in this draft. You we have not reached

1:01:24

saturation.

1:01:24

To me, Alex van Pelt in New England might

1:01:27

be the saturation point when I mean, look,

1:01:29

they haven't all worked either, Like Luke

1:01:31

Getzi with the Bears didn't really work. Like that's

1:01:33

that tree. Not everyone in this tree is going to work.

1:01:36

But at some point the saturation is an

1:01:38

issue. Like when eight to ten

1:01:40

gms in the league were drafting similar

1:01:43

players to the Patriots because they

1:01:45

were all Patriots disciples.

1:01:48

Around the league.

1:01:49

I think that created a real, you know, competitive

1:01:51

problem for the Patriots and these other teams.

1:01:53

And I think the same thing is going to happen with all these McVeigh

1:01:56

offenses at some point. All right, let's pause

1:01:58

one more time. We will app things

1:02:00

up on the other side

1:02:03

and we are back. Okay,

1:02:06

let's let's go speed round. We'll each go

1:02:08

one last one.

1:02:09

Well, yeah, I'm looking at the team that just lost

1:02:11

to the San Francisco Ford Nunders. That was a

1:02:14

fun team for all of us. The Detroit Lion, glad

1:02:16

you picked them. They have a burning

1:02:18

desire for a playmaker. In the secondary. I

1:02:21

really don't care if it's a cornerback, if it's

1:02:23

a safety, maybe it's a Cooper de Jon, who knows.

1:02:25

But this identity of this football team, you

1:02:28

can find it every place, even

1:02:30

in quarterback and Jared Golf all

1:02:32

the way to the defensive line. But the secondary

1:02:35

is just kind of there.

1:02:37

And they've been trying, and they don't have a ton of needs.

1:02:39

So it's like, go get that thing that you need.

1:02:41

I would I would push back a little

1:02:43

bit on that one. I think they need help

1:02:46

up front on both sides, and you're right, they're in a

1:02:48

good spot where it's not these screaming needs.

1:02:50

But they came in drafting Pinasoul

1:02:52

saying they're gonna be all about the offensive line. He is by

1:02:54

far the youngest guy on that offensive line.

1:02:57

It's an older group. They haven't brought in anyone that's

1:02:59

me any difference there, and so I think they need to start

1:03:02

thinking about the future on the offense and the defensive

1:03:04

line. The defensive line picks other than Hutchinson

1:03:07

have been, you know, not all

1:03:09

bad, but they haven't had big hits.

1:03:12

And if you're counting on Marcus Davenboord and.

1:03:13

DJ Reeder to be your starters coming

1:03:16

off injuries and stuff. I think

1:03:18

they get back to a Dan Campbell meat

1:03:20

and potatoes linemen on both sides.

1:03:23

See I snuck in my opinion on that one. It

1:03:26

wasn't mine. I had go to Baltimore.

1:03:28

I think that they it's fair to say

1:03:30

that they are in this state in life

1:03:33

where they're a little reckless.

1:03:34

They need all sorts of things.

1:03:35

They have more needs than you'd realize, like, and

1:03:37

it starts with the fact that they let

1:03:40

John Simpson, Kevin Zeitler, Morgan Moses

1:03:42

all leave off the offensive line. You still

1:03:44

have Ronnie Stanley, Patrick McCarry,

1:03:46

Tyler Linderbaum, but you'd need help at guard I

1:03:48

think, or look at an upgrade

1:03:50

there. But I could also say you could say they they

1:03:53

need you could you could upgrade a tackle if you wanted

1:03:55

to. You need edge rushers. You

1:03:58

have no more ol Odell Beckham. And you're in a place

1:04:00

at wide out where you're you've reversed back

1:04:02

a season where you've taken weapons away

1:04:04

from Lamar Jackson. So they

1:04:06

could go in a lot of different directions here.

1:04:09

I don't think I wouldn't have a problem with them picking

1:04:11

a different change difference changing wide out

1:04:13

as well, but like they kind of need a lot, Like they were

1:04:16

the Ravens bled a lot of talent off this roster.

1:04:18

They did, and probably more than any team in the league.

1:04:20

Their roster feels like an incomplete

1:04:22

now, just because we know how they work, playing the supplemental

1:04:26

or compensatory pick game and waiting

1:04:28

and signing a lot of veteranss. I

1:04:30

think there's seventeen guys left off my one oh

1:04:32

one they're going to be signing.

1:04:34

I feel like a lot of players that

1:04:37

are free agents and available that end

1:04:39

up playing three to five hundred snaps for them.

1:04:41

And Eric DaCosta uh and

1:04:43

his predecessor as you knew, some who's still there. I

1:04:46

mean, it's like this guy retires and

1:04:48

then he's he's in the booth at the combine.

1:04:51

Is he really retired. I don't know. To me,

1:04:53

he's probably contributing. Uh.

1:04:55

They do a great job, but I'm with you they I feel

1:04:57

like they have a lot of snaps

1:05:01

to still find this offseason.

1:05:02

They do always have like seventeen to eighteen third

1:05:04

round picks at the end of the right and.

1:05:06

So they'll do it that way. But I'm with especially you

1:05:08

shout it out Ed Dresher. I think that that is

1:05:10

definitely something they would want

1:05:12

to address. Cornerback is

1:05:14

another for my final

1:05:16

one, where shall I go? You

1:05:20

know, when it comes to the Patriots, it's

1:05:24

just been all quarterback talk. They

1:05:28

don't have a left tackle. It's

1:05:33

possibly the worst wide receiver group in the NFL.

1:05:36

Right the case it is, I

1:05:39

think Kristian Gonzal is going to be a great pro. They

1:05:42

need cornerbacks, like a

1:05:45

lot of needs here, just saying they have some

1:05:47

burning desires outside of quarterback.

1:05:50

I just I think I don't

1:05:52

know.

1:05:52

Like it's interesting because we could have imagined what

1:05:54

Bill Belichick might do in this situation. It's

1:05:56

hard to know what this front office will do necessarily.

1:05:58

But like there is a that they can get too

1:06:00

cute and not get a quarterback. I get that you trade

1:06:03

down, but then too cute and don't want to get a wide receiver

1:06:05

and too cute and don't get one of these other Just like

1:06:07

let's be you need everything, but get the positions

1:06:10

that you want a rookie contract, like you want

1:06:12

a quarterback on a rookie contract. You want if

1:06:14

you're gonna have a diva wide out. You want him on a rookie

1:06:16

contract like you want a left tackle. You

1:06:18

want him on a rookie contract, versus like trying

1:06:20

to pick up these other Their group

1:06:23

of wideouts is one of the most the least creative

1:06:26

team building collections of pass

1:06:28

catchers.

1:06:29

You can imagine the last half decade. It's

1:06:32

pretty rough.

1:06:32

Ten Kendrick Bourne is your best guy,

1:06:35

but he's coming off a torn aco I

1:06:37

kind of pop.

1:06:37

Douglas was good last year.

1:06:39

I mean, they just they just have issues,

1:06:41

and yet they do not think they should trade out.

1:06:43

If Adam Schefter is right, as he said

1:06:45

on his podcast, is this week given me this

1:06:48

hope that he really thinks it's

1:06:50

Jayden Daniels at two when he puts

1:06:52

that out there in early April, He's tended to be right.

1:06:54

Daniels is three versus the Commander's

1:06:57

taking Daniels.

1:06:58

He says, what did I just say? Said?

1:07:00

You said Daniels it too?

1:07:01

Yeah, just got what I want. That's what I

1:07:03

want.

1:07:05

I would be happy with Jade and Daniels too, but

1:07:07

I feel I really like the idea

1:07:09

of Drake may Well.

1:07:11

Let's hope that, you know, every Patriots fan

1:07:13

gets what they want a quarterback after two or three

1:07:16

tough seasons.

1:07:17

With all our hearts go out

1:07:19

to you.

1:07:19

That was it.

1:07:21

Eagles get a freaking linebacker. It

1:07:23

it keeps ruining your seasons. And then you,

1:07:25

you know, get a linebacker you didn't know what

1:07:27

you had with Kaizier.

1:07:28

White Bucks get an edge.

1:07:30

Giants get a running back.

1:07:32

Bringing up running back Brandon Singletary is not taking

1:07:34

you to the rams in a good spot, I think,

1:07:36

but certainly need a lot more.

1:07:38

How you know, don't make it so hard on your defensive

1:07:40

coordinator. You definitely need to

1:07:42

try to replace not just Aaron Donald, but get more

1:07:45

edge helped too. What a show, what

1:07:47

a what a lot of fun with you guys, always

1:07:49

good. Thanks to everyone

1:07:52

listening. We will be back next week with three

1:07:54

shows. Uh Dan, We'll be back

1:07:58

and uh until then, thank you to Eric.

1:08:01

You know, I know that's a big day for your bills. H

1:08:05

Ormark Sessler put Patrick

1:08:07

clay Von He's

1:08:10

a call, HM