0:00

One of the biggest pet peeves I have as a coach

0:02

is when you're on a team that's not

0:04

doing very well and the opposing

0:06

coach whose team is doing well walks

0:09

up to you at the fifty yard line says, man, you

0:12

guys, play hard.

0:13

You I don't want to play

0:15

hard. I don't to you up.

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That's the mindset. No one's

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talking about how we play hard anymore. They're

0:22

Peyton and that's exactly

0:24

what you can want.

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Oh that's

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my coat.

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From the Chris Wesley podcast Studio. It

0:33

is the season finale of

0:36

the Hard Knocks podcast

0:39

and Hard Knocks and the show

0:42

the show as well, what's more important

0:44

decide if

0:47

I had I'm Dan Hansis, by the.

0:49

Way, and I'm Colleen

0:51

Woolf.

0:51

Hello, that's Colleen wolf and

0:54

you you grade very high on the given factor.

0:57

That was one of my favorite lines from the

0:59

entire show. Also wrote it down.

1:01

It does.

1:01

That one that connected with me because sometimes

1:03

when you work with people or whatever in life,

1:06

you want to make sure that that factor is

1:09

at a high or an acceptable level.

1:11

Uh huh.

1:11

We all got to be in it to win it.

1:13

I also, just going off

1:15

of what Robert Sala just had to say

1:17

there when coaches

1:20

go up to him and say, man, you guys

1:22

play hard? Okay, was it Belichick? How many

1:24

times has Belichick said that to him? Mc dermott

1:27

like, who was it that really got

1:29

under his skin? That's what I want to know.

1:31

Let's be honest that Jets have had two losing seasons

1:34

under Solace so far, so plenty of coaches have had

1:36

that opportunity to this point, but this

1:38

is supposed to be different. Collien and if

1:41

I could offer a one line

1:44

synopsis of this fifth

1:46

and final episode of Hard Knocks

1:50

to kind of an overview of the Jets

1:52

in general what we've seen this summer,

1:54

that might be all as well in

1:57

Jetland. Or if

1:59

we want to add some dramatic

2:03

sala Ian Salayan.

2:05

Sal Yeah, sala Ian

2:08

salah.

2:08

Ian heft,

2:11

we could call it where foolish crows

2:13

come to suffocate then free fall to their

2:15

pitiful depths.

2:17

Yeah, I mean, out of context, it was weird, but

2:19

when we saw the full.

2:20

Thing, point is

2:22

this team believes.

2:23

That's a reflection obviously

2:25

of the coaching staff led by Robert

2:28

sala and these five weeks served as

2:30

a snapshot of a team Connie

2:33

an organization that is

2:35

absolutely certain

2:37

of its place in the NFL right

2:40

now.

2:40

That confidence has never been higher.

2:42

Which you know, let's get

2:44

into that a little bit.

2:45

Here's DJ Reid, the cornerback, underrated

2:47

cornerback of the Jets.

2:49

On Monday, had a zoom call with reporters

2:52

and he said this, I think we have

2:55

the potential to be the best defense in the NFL.

2:57

Just stop there, stop there, we don't need it. But

2:59

he keeps going.

3:00

Honestly, I think we can be historical,

3:02

not just the best defense in the league, but I think

3:04

we could be a historical defense like the eighty five,

3:07

eighty six Bears, the

3:09

lob Seahawks legion of Boom in twenty

3:11

thirteen. I think we could be that dominant

3:13

if we just put all the things

3:16

together. And that's the side of the ball,

3:18

Colleen that doesn't use Aaron Rodgers,

3:21

right.

3:21

I know.

3:22

So what I'm kind of getting from

3:25

you right now is like a little

3:27

a little stress, maybe a little anxiety

3:31

style because everyone

3:34

is so confident and hard knocks

3:36

really put together this like beautiful

3:38

image of this Jets team that has

3:40

everything going right, all the pieces are

3:42

in place.

3:43

The future is theirs to grab.

3:45

And take hold of and do whatever they want

3:47

to do with it, you know, unless

3:50

something catastrophic happens, which never happens

3:52

to the Jets.

3:53

Right, And that's kind of the crux out.

3:55

It's like the Jets, they of

3:57

the seven game losing streak that

3:59

ends last season and the thirteen year

4:02

and counting playoff drought. They view

4:04

themselves as major

4:07

players with championship upside.

4:09

But now here's the hard part, Connie, they actually.

4:12

Have to like do it

4:14

right.

4:15

So as I've really enjoyed

4:17

as a fan this entire summer, this

4:20

spring, everything after Rogers's arrival,

4:23

but I've got i gotta like some nerves now

4:27

and watching this finale and seeing how high

4:29

the confidence is that

4:31

now they got to go and do it. Here's defensive

4:33

coordinator Jeff Ulbrick, who again

4:36

gassing up this plane.

4:38

He believes, God, look around,

4:41

this is it, this is it.

4:45

Let's go.

4:48

It's all we got, it's all we need, guys,

4:50

am I whatever. Twenty plus years in this league, I

4:52

have never been around a collective group with

4:55

such talent and such character. And

4:57

that's real, Like

5:00

this is a special group in

5:02

so many ways. It's

5:05

our time. That's

5:08

not just words on a PowerPoint.

5:11

It's our time to dominate. It's time

5:13

to go.

5:13

Let's go.

5:14

I've bought in, I'm here for it. Listen,

5:17

of all of the teams.

5:18

Talk me down my anxiety down a little

5:20

bit.

5:20

Well, I understand this because the first

5:22

time, the year that the Eagles won the Super

5:24

Bowl, they had been playing so well

5:26

and everyone was so high on them, and it made

5:28

me feel so uncomfortable to actually

5:31

hear something positive, right that

5:33

was real and happening with the Eagles. But this

5:36

team really is set up so well

5:38

out of all of the teams that kind of

5:41

they grab your attention and then they

5:43

stab you in the heart like the Chargers, you

5:45

know, like you know, the Browns have done

5:47

so many times too. But the Jets actually feel

5:50

like they are about to turn

5:52

this around. That they are the logic checks out

5:54

the precipice of greatness. Here's

5:57

what I tell listen, they have logic

5:59

checks out defense.

6:01

Rookie of the Year. I mean, everything is,

6:03

everything.

6:04

Is set right now for them. The table is set,

6:06

and now they just have to you know, they gotta

6:08

do.

6:08

They gotta eat, They gotta eat. I mean, should I be

6:10

worried about the wall Finish the wall.

6:12

Finish the wall.

6:13

Finish the wall, all right, the finale.

6:15

So yeah, finish the wall situation,

6:18

which I kind of love. They're

6:20

going to basically take snapshots

6:22

and scenes from every game every

6:24

week and then put it on the wall that long

6:27

hallway that we saw in the episode,

6:29

and so they did it for the preseason, and it's

6:32

kind of like their own destiny is in their

6:34

hands and they don't want that hallway

6:36

to be filled with terrible photos,

6:38

and they wouldn't do that anyway. But I

6:40

think that that this is kind of like a cool, nice thing.

6:42

Also from like an Artsy's Dance Go ahead. I am

6:45

so in on this, Like I wish

6:47

that I could help vote what pictures

6:50

are going to go up and what wallpaper

6:52

they will be using for each week.

6:54

I like it. I am You are a

6:57

seventy seven year old woman.

6:59

And doryd Toreen

7:02

Waldenstein trapped in a young

7:04

woman's body. I enjoy that

7:06

about you. I can picture you in

7:09

an upstair of an old house, in

7:11

an attic, in an attic, locked away

7:13

in the attic, hardwood floors, heating

7:16

and air conditioning not great, but it's okay

7:18

because you've been given an easel and

7:21

one window and you're just painting.

7:23

You know, I paint right, yeah, bird

7:25

watch.

7:26

The bird watch and you paint

7:28

and it's a tourene corner.

7:30

But the hallway finish the wall. That is

7:32

a very confident plan that

7:35

they.

7:35

Have right and

7:38

again I love it. I love that this

7:40

team believes. And when Jeff Ulbrich

7:42

the DC talks about how special the defense

7:44

is, and when DJ

7:47

reid Uh does the same thing in

7:49

a conference call with reporters, I get

7:51

it. But I think it's just six

7:53

days to kick off, and anxiety is

7:56

setting in after what's been such

7:58

a great ride by the way, this hallway

8:00

and a great opening opening shot

8:02

in the finale. Just it's a one

8:05

hundred yard hallway that butts

8:07

up against the practice field, the main practice

8:09

field and Leev Schreiber,

8:12

who big year for Leev.

8:13

Let's go give it.

8:14

Up for Leev Schreiber, not only once

8:17

again and whatever Paul Rudd

8:19

in the Chief season, get off the corner.

8:22

This is Leev's territory. And

8:25

he got He was in the opening credits,

8:27

cry on sure he

8:30

Chiron Chiron.

8:31

I was like, cry on.

8:33

That I missed opening Chiron for the first

8:35

time.

8:37

He took a damn helicopter

8:39

to the practice field.

8:40

Shout out blade.

8:42

Shout out blade. How much who

8:44

paid for it?

8:46

Probably the guy with the seven million dollar chain

8:48

he used for thirty five seconds in

8:50

one episode. But

8:52

anyway, Leev does a great kind

8:55

of opening monologue here.

8:57

HBO is almost like, how much are we paying? Yeah,

9:00

we gotta get we gotta get the most of him.

9:02

In episode five, here's here's

9:04

a portion of it not from Leev because he's a

9:06

hugely successful actor and there's all sorts

9:08

of legal loopholes that preclude

9:10

him from being on an NFL media

9:12

property like this one day maybe,

9:15

but we did get Jason Zumwalt in an old airport.

9:18

It's true. The hall is dead straight,

9:21

and every NFL season has twists,

9:24

so the metaphor is not perfect, but

9:27

it's not bad. Besides,

9:29

the most important part of this hallway is

9:31

what lies at its end. Four

9:33

letters that now means something new.

9:36

J E. T s.

9:39

Today is about learning who's earned

9:42

the privilege of being called

9:44

one.

9:45

Wow.

9:46

I love the light music

9:48

playing in the background.

9:50

Beyond music, is

9:53

it just me? Or is that his best delivery?

9:56

I think he likes an audience apparently

9:58

he was in the airport doing it. Who knows were

10:00

what little space he carved out.

10:01

For He must have looked nuts.

10:03

Yeah, probably love that.

10:04

I know we were hoping that he would be in

10:07

an actual airplane, that he would have to do it

10:09

from the bathroom.

10:10

With Sumwat's initial

10:12

plan is flying fly. He was working Louisiana

10:14

heading back up to Connecticut.

10:17

His initial plan was to do it from an airport

10:19

bathroom. And then he and then he said to

10:21

me, this is this is great with Jay. He texted

10:23

me, I'm gonna send it to a guy. He has a guy that

10:25

would filter out the ambient sound

10:27

of being in an airport bathroom or in

10:30

a plane bathroom. I was like, no, we

10:32

want that, we want the

10:34

ambiance anyway. Good job

10:36

by Jay all season long, and

10:38

uh leev, way to go, buddy.

10:41

So and he's teeing up who's gonna make

10:43

the team? Yeah, And the episode

10:45

kind of starts on a very positive

10:47

note.

10:48

Oh yeah, I can't complain you.

10:49

You've been nervous, man.

10:52

How you feeling?

10:53

It's been pretty good? Yeah?

10:55

How do you think the preseason went?

10:57

It's been pretty good, you know, yeah,

10:59

well.

11:00

You know, the odds are stacked against you from the from

11:02

the jump man. So you did

11:04

a lot of good things this camp man. Yes, so

11:07

we appreciate your hard work. Just

11:10

want to let you know. Man, you're in New York.

11:12

Jet a

11:16

take out.

11:22

Hell, I

11:25

know what you earned it

11:27

you get, You're gonna You're gonna do a lot of good things for us.

11:29

It's here.

11:30

Should Robert so all have be doing voice work just

11:32

as an aside. I mean, he has a

11:34

great voice.

11:36

Uh Zumwal doesn't need more Competition's

11:38

keep him on the sideline. That was Xavier

11:40

Gibson, one of the wide receivers young

11:42

wide outs that made the team. Jason Brownly also

11:44

made the team and also got the fake out

11:46

treatment by Oh by the way, oh Joe Douglas.

11:49

He's actually with the organization. He finally saw

11:51

in episode five.

11:52

He is alive and well.

11:53

I remember in the twenty ten Jets

11:56

Hard Knocks Mike Tannenbaum the GM

11:58

at the time, you actually they

12:00

were showing Mike on the field trying to catch as

12:02

many punts as possible in his arms

12:05

and like stumbling and falling. I

12:07

remember FRANCESSA on New York

12:09

d be like that's a clown. Shown.

12:13

That's why Joe Douglas didn't show up until Nally

12:16

as the Euro Yes, I love

12:18

this was very wholesome and pure

12:20

because we had mentioned that we hadn't

12:22

really gotten a lot of uh, you

12:25

know, inner workings of the coaches

12:28

kind of standing on the table for their guys.

12:30

He never did.

12:30

Actually, we had seen that in all

12:33

of the other past Hard Knocks, but not

12:35

with this one, and the Jets were pretty clear

12:37

about that from the jump. So I kind

12:39

of had a feeling when I saw Jason

12:42

Brownlee go into the office with Joe

12:44

Douglass for his maiden voyage

12:46

on the show, his first appearance, and

12:48

Robert Sala that this would be

12:50

a fake out. But then it also had me

12:53

wondering because Jason Brownlee and Xavier

12:55

Gibson are such close friends.

12:57

Jason obviously called.

13:00

Old Xavier to tell him that he

13:02

made the team, and I'm sure he told him

13:04

exactly what happened, like how they faked

13:06

him out. So I wonder if Xavier kind

13:09

of knew that that was happening or

13:11

could be good question a possibility,

13:14

because otherwise it was like, really, that's what you're

13:16

going to do.

13:16

Oh my god, these guys think that they're gonna get.

13:18

Cut Here's what Aaron Rodgers

13:20

said.

13:20

I'm really proud of those guys, and he mentioned how

13:22

they didn't get big signing bonuses, they were disappointed

13:25

on draft day, but to end up with a spot

13:27

on the fifty three, and now we're a week

13:30

further from the cutdown day and

13:33

week one is coming up on Monday night. These guys

13:35

look like they're safe and they're going to

13:37

be on the fifty three, which is a big, a

13:40

really big moment obviously, and something

13:43

you don't see often. I did think it was really interesting.

13:45

We never on the on the season, we never even

13:47

heard about Corey Davis. No, and the reason

13:49

on your radar, the reason why Xavier Gibson

13:52

and Jason Browny both make the team. It

13:54

used to be two kids for one spot, and

13:57

Corey Davis retires ruptly,

14:00

has a big contract, veteran guy, he's had,

14:02

you know, really success, a lot of success

14:04

and with the Titans, not as much with the Jets, but he

14:06

was supposed to be part of it.

14:08

He retires suddenly.

14:09

We never hear about that on the show, or

14:12

it's never really made clear why it

14:15

became two spots, but it is

14:17

and to the benefit of these guys,

14:19

they get a chance and now we'll see again.

14:21

It's almost weird after this very

14:24

unprecedented season for

14:26

Jets fans, We're gonna see what these kids can

14:28

do.

14:28

Are they gonna get run? Is Aaron Rodgers gonna

14:30

throw them the ball?

14:32

Exactly?

14:32

See?

14:33

And then also the other rookie that I'm

14:35

super interested in now is the running back.

14:37

Is he Abana Konda? First of all, I just like his name

14:39

is so much fun to see see right off the tongue, and

14:42

he was hurt.

14:43

He was able to come back so quick that thigh

14:45

injury. Where he was on the

14:47

field, he couldn't even feel anyone

14:49

like touching his leg, you.

14:51

Know how bad.

14:52

Like imagine everyone's gotten

14:54

like either need or punched in

14:56

the arm by their buddy

14:58

or some jerk like a bu and then

15:00

it's like, oh, it's sort It's almost like, yeah, imagine

15:03

being need so hard in

15:05

the thigh that the trainer comes

15:07

out and you can't feel.

15:09

It's a brutal game.

15:10

I can't, I can't.

15:11

I mean he was supposed to be out for a month, came

15:13

back in a week, and then we

15:15

had a chance to meet his family a

15:17

little bit more nice.

15:19

They're Nigerian.

15:20

They talked about how they love parties, they

15:22

love to celebrate, which I

15:24

just feel like I would get along so

15:26

well with this whole entire hungry.

15:29

That food looked so bomb.

15:31

I don't know what. I don't know what it was. Maybe

15:33

it was some type of rice would make.

15:35

Me not of this food look bomb? Get it

15:37

to Connie in time.

15:38

Yeah, I don't know if it

15:41

was a Nigerian dish that they were cooking,

15:43

but if it was, it could have been jallof

15:46

rice.

15:47

That is something i've Yeah.

15:51

There's also something called puff puff, which

15:53

is fried sweet of fried

15:55

sweet dough ball, which just looks like maybe

15:58

isn't.

15:58

That like a zeppee or whatever? Oh?

16:00

Probably was that a New Jersey turn and that

16:03

sounds cool. It's Italian Italian

16:05

Jersey news.

16:06

Zeppel is like a do you know, Eric

16:08

Roberts, you're from? Where are you from?

16:10

Original Los Angeles?

16:12

Ever heard of it?

16:13

No, no idea.

16:14

It's like you get in the bag. It's

16:16

great.

16:17

I don't know.

16:18

That could be a Northeast we'll find

16:20

out.

16:20

We've we've come back into this cul de sac once

16:22

more. We are Yeah,

16:25

Tanzel Smart, the defensive tackle who everyone

16:28

really that watched

16:30

the show.

16:30

He was impossible not to root for. He

16:33

does not make the team.

16:35

We notably do not see this

16:37

because in you know, old Hard Knocks days,

16:39

there's a GoPro in the coaches of

16:41

the GM's office Brownley

16:44

Gibson, Like, there's a cameraman just like sitting

16:46

in there hanging with him. Yeah, imagine what those

16:48

guys are thinking. It is like, am I about

16:51

to get cut with his cameraman three feet away from me? But

16:53

they weren't smart. There were no cameras

16:55

for that. We did get though a

16:57

conversation the

17:00

fact, and it was it was sad. It was sad kind

17:02

of because he's holding his young daughter and we

17:05

knew, just from how NFL

17:07

Filds did such a great job tracking his story

17:10

how much this would have meant to him and changed

17:12

his life if he made the team. He doesn't. He

17:14

ends up on the practice squad, but that was

17:16

not his goal. Here is Smart.

17:18

You just want to get what you deserve, you know, And

17:21

I feel like I deserve. I

17:23

deserve to be on the fifty three. So if

17:26

you know, if God wanted me to be here, I'll be here.

17:29

But if not, I need to go be on the fifty

17:31

three. I just put a lot of good out

17:33

there, and

17:36

that's why I read it on even like you see

17:38

my face, I'm not I'm upset, but I'm

17:40

not like, oh, devastated, because

17:43

at the end of the day, I put everything

17:46

I could into this and

17:48

it.

17:48

Is that's the human side of

17:50

what makes the show so great. And you know that's

17:52

hard to watch because how real and human

17:54

it is. He say look at my face, and his face

17:56

tells the real story, right, He's crushed.

17:58

He's completely you can hear the frustration,

18:01

but you can also see the defeat. And I think

18:03

that's like what he's getting at when he says, look

18:05

at my face, Like, I'm

18:07

not crushed, but it's like, yeah, of course

18:09

he is. And he's felt this many times over again,

18:12

and he wants this so bad. And he's

18:14

holding his daughter, who's so sweet and so

18:16

cute, and he's looking at her and it's just like, I

18:18

want this for him because he wants it

18:20

so bad, so that kind of pulls at

18:23

the heart strings.

18:23

Yeah, that I always think about. It's one of my favorite

18:26

moments in the history of Hard

18:28

Knocks. It was in the

18:31

Bengal season. I believe the second Bengal season

18:34

defense another defensive tackle, Terrence

18:36

Stevens, who

18:39

is a great singer and he's trying to make

18:41

it on the roster. I remember when they would show practices

18:43

and games. He just wasn't necessarily

18:45

hanging right with the big boys about

18:48

to cry. But

18:51

he's a great singer and he sings

18:54

this John Mayer song called Gravity, and

18:57

the lyrics were so poigting for the moment,

18:59

and it's likevity is working against

19:01

me, gravity keeping

19:03

me down and keep me where

19:06

the light is, which was just like there

19:08

were so many kind of parallels to NFL

19:10

life. And I thought about that again

19:12

with Tanzel Smart.

19:15

But he ended up on the practice squad.

19:16

And here's the good news.

19:17

And I did the same thing last year because I remember I

19:19

got deja vu. Here

19:22

is the good news for us people

19:24

that understand the practice squad is not where you want

19:26

to be as an NFL player. But according

19:28

to my quick Internet research,

19:33

the minimum for players who have accrued

19:35

more than two years in the NFL or

19:38

two seasons, and Tanzel is twenty seven.

19:39

He bounced around a little bit starting the rams.

19:42

You make fifteen four hundred per week,

19:45

or two hundred and seventy seven two hundred

19:47

dollars for eighteen weeks.

19:48

That the player is a crew two of more seasons. So

19:51

that's not bad. Okay, So that's good for his family,

19:53

that's good for him.

19:54

And if things an opportunity arises,

19:56

maybe we see him at Jetlife Stadium, you know what.

19:58

That feels like a win.

20:00

And I'm hoping for bigger things in

20:02

the future for him and Quincy Williams.

20:04

I don't want to either. Carcuccie Board, Quincy

20:06

Williams.

20:07

Carcuccie Boards, Will McDonald and Quincy Williams

20:10

walking off the field after the news broke about Tanzel.

20:12

It's business, it's not personal. It's

20:15

tough. It's tough. All

20:18

right, Let's take

20:20

a break. We're

20:22

gonna have a very special guest.

20:23

Oh my god, I'm so excited about this.

20:25

I mean, this has been building for five apps and

20:28

now it is time big

20:30

reveal.

20:31

After this break, the old man,

20:55

welcome back.

20:59

What a day.

21:00

How's your dad doing?

21:01

Oh he's great, A wolf awesome ed.

21:05

Wolf saw you?

21:07

Oh he sure did sign

21:09

that together in the conversation a little bit later, but

21:12

from one father to

21:14

another, he around the NFL. Fans

21:17

know him well. The

21:19

man that made me a Jets fan for better

21:21

or that made you and made

21:23

me. You got that right too. Cue

21:26

the music, Eric Roberts.

21:30

His name is Keith. He's

21:32

stands dad, no doubt

21:34

about it. He's a big Jets

21:36

fan. Wood is he going

21:39

to say the game today?

21:42

Will he go game

21:45

today? Hey?

21:47

Joining us now from spring Lake,

21:49

New Jersey, a

21:51

mere stone's throw from the florm Park

21:54

headquarters of New York Jets.

21:55

It's Keith Hanss my dad.

21:57

Hey, pop, mister hans is Hello.

22:00

Oh I

22:02

Dan and Colleen. How you guys doing.

22:04

We're doing well? Better now?

22:06

Yes, we've been wanting to have

22:08

you on the Hard Knocks podcast. We

22:11

wanted to pick the right spot, and I feel like the finale,

22:13

Dad, is the perfect time to bring you

22:15

in as a Jet fan. Going back to

22:17

the name of days and first

22:20

of all, what were your thoughts, Let's talk

22:22

about the finale. Anything from the finale that

22:24

really kind of stuck out to you tonight?

22:27

Oh?

22:27

Yeah, what a finale?

22:28

You know.

22:29

The thing that I really took from

22:31

that finale was two big

22:33

things. First of all, when they were walking

22:35

down that hallway, initially right when they

22:38

and they think that was the length of a football field,

22:40

right right, And then when they at the very

22:42

end they showed how then they were

22:44

sequencing putting pictures in

22:47

up to with the hard knocks,

22:49

and then they were going to put more pictures throughout

22:52

that hallway as

22:55

the season progressed. I thought that was pretty cool

22:57

because that was such a long hallway.

23:00

Yeah, it's the big thing I got. The biggest

23:02

thing I got was Salah. I thought when his

23:04

reference to Mount Everest m you

23:07

know, the analogy of you know, climbing

23:10

to the top of Mount evereston. You

23:12

know, the Jets, you know that they

23:15

really need This is really the

23:17

first time in so long that they have, you

23:19

know, good hope in the preseason

23:21

going into the season.

23:23

With Rogers, and he pointed out Connie and the

23:25

rest of the team, they've only gotten to the base camp

23:27

right now, there's so much farther

23:30

to go. And Dad, you mentioned that hallway.

23:32

We talked about the base camp. Huh,

23:34

right, We talked about at the beginning of the show, how

23:37

that hallway and how they're going to put up

23:39

photos celebrating each week, big

23:42

moments from each week. It's kind of like

23:44

that could backfire if the season doesn't go

23:46

well, But at the same time, they don't

23:48

think about that because there's so much confidence

23:51

around this team. Can you ever remember as

23:53

a Jets van at an off season And

23:55

they've had a lot of down years, obviously, but

23:57

there have been years where name

24:00

it through some of the Ken O'Brien years,

24:02

Vinny Testaverdi Pennington,

24:04

even Mark Sanchez, there happened moments

24:07

of excitement for this this fan

24:09

base. But do you ever remember it ever being like this?

24:14

Well, when it comes to the name of years, you

24:16

know, right after the Super Bowl they made

24:18

the playoffs and then they lost the tough game to

24:20

Kansas City. And then the following

24:23

season nineteen seventy one, you

24:25

know, all the Jets had really high

24:27

hopes because they had a strong defense

24:30

and a great offense. And what happens in preseason

24:32

name of trying to make it tackle in

24:34

those gays. Six games were played in preseason,

24:37

all right, I believe tries

24:39

to make it, Yes, he makes

24:41

it, tries to make it tackle of Mike

24:43

Lucci, the linebacker of the Detroit

24:45

Lions, and he tears up his knee

24:48

and he missed almost the whole season. So

24:51

that to me, that was like everybody was

24:53

looking for that season to be such a

24:55

to come back season

24:57

for them. And then of course you know that

25:00

name. It had a couple of more good years, but that was

25:02

you know, the team was never the same.

25:04

Well, listen, I've been watching Danny as you call

25:06

him, and I feel like when you're on and when I'm around

25:08

you, I have to call him Danny. Danny

25:11

kind of worked through different emotions

25:13

while watching Hard Knocks, going

25:15

from just the excitement of the fact

25:18

that it was about the Jets and

25:20

then working slowly towards

25:22

a little bit more of a stressed out

25:25

situation because so much

25:28

is now around the Jets. There's so many

25:30

spotlights on them. So for you, I

25:32

just want to know your experience. Has

25:34

this show given you more confidence

25:37

or more anxiety about the season

25:39

coming up?

25:41

No question about it. More confidence, totally

25:43

more confidence. And let me just say one other

25:46

thing about you know about

25:48

you said how the Jets fortunes? How was I looking

25:50

at the when it comes to Danny, all right,

25:52

that's when the Sanchez years came in. That

25:55

was big post name it

25:57

that we thought was going to something have something

25:59

happened, But yeah, this, watching

26:01

this show, I was definitely.

26:03

On a high. Yeah, I bet. What

26:05

about your opinion?

26:06

Yes, I remember being in the garage

26:08

with you dad at my old house in

26:10

Culver City, and it was a Thursday

26:12

night and I had a TV set up

26:14

and we had the heat

26:16

lamp set up and it was me, you,

26:21

our dear departed friend Chris Westling, Greg

26:23

and Mark and we were watching the game.

26:25

Colleen was at lambeau Field while

26:27

this was going on.

26:28

We were talking about the Packers and famously

26:31

called the coach.

26:33

Lafleura a bearded boy, which was great.

26:35

But also in that conversation that

26:38

was always brought back up that you said

26:40

that you didn't like Rogers.

26:41

He's arrogant.

26:42

That was the word, Danny, I don't like

26:44

that Rogers, He's arrogant. Has

26:46

your opinion changed it all on Rogers

26:48

over the past four or five months, or even

26:50

the last five weeks with this show, you.

26:54

Know, you're absolutely right. I did have that feeling

26:56

because he does have that sort of rough edge to

26:59

him, But not seeing the different

27:01

side of Rogers which we saw in Hard Knocks

27:03

was big. You see how he was

27:06

not only to his teammates but

27:09

the coaches and then players

27:12

that even in pre season.

27:14

You see the way they all go over to him and embrace

27:16

him and say hello. He says hello to all these

27:18

guys. You know, it's like he's

27:21

not that same guy that had that

27:23

attitude in Green Bay. I don't know if that's what

27:25

I'm seeing differently, but he's certainly

27:28

he's a totally different guy.

27:29

I think it's a lot guy. I just didn't know him.

27:32

It's like watching Dan at work. Everyone kind

27:34

of comes up to Dan. They gravitate towards

27:36

him. They're giving him high fives when he walks

27:38

in the building.

27:39

Everybody loves Dam and I'm like Rogers

27:41

when he was the tail end of the packers.

27:43

I just tell everybody to get away from me.

27:45

You know what, the mister Hansas, I have

27:47

a question for you, because for years and years

27:50

and years, Dan has been telling us

27:52

about his hometown. Where

27:54

you live now, Spring Lake, would

27:57

you describe it as a cold town

27:59

as Dan has?

28:01

Well, Pearl River is where I.

28:02

Grew up, Pearl River. I'm so sorry.

28:04

Is that a cult?

28:06

Well?

28:07

That was Danny's description of Pearl River.

28:09

You know, I never saw

28:11

any coal mines in Pearl River or

28:13

anything, but I guess Danny was referencing

28:16

it to some other things that he was equating

28:18

it too. I'm not quite sure. And Colleen, you

28:20

can call me Keith.

28:21

Please, Okay, great? Great.

28:23

The best part is my dad never really had any issue

28:25

with it, but my mom deb she'd

28:27

be like, I don't like that you call it a cult, Dad,

28:34

before we say goodbye. You know Joe

28:37

Namath, your two heroes growing

28:39

up, Nameth Mickey Mantle.

28:41

Okay, name it. Towering

28:44

figure in Jet's

28:46

history. I think

28:48

Aaron Rodgers if he ever, if this

28:50

ever ended, best case scenario,

28:53

and and he took this team from where

28:55

they were last year to a

28:57

Super Bowl title, I think he would have clout

29:00

as a New York athlete that maybe you don't touch

29:02

name it because it was a different era too, but he

29:04

would be a legend in New

29:07

York. You agree, right, like Rogers

29:09

has a chance to enter rarefied air as

29:11

someone's been watching the New York sports

29:13

scene for a long time. That

29:16

would put him in a special category that only

29:18

a few enter.

29:21

Absolutely, you know, if he can take

29:23

this team, which you

29:25

know they have one of the toughest schedules,

29:27

which I know you guys have talked about and

29:29

if he could take him to like eleven or twelve

29:32

wins of them, hopefully for at least eleven,

29:34

you know, this would put him

29:36

in a total I would definitely

29:38

be There's no other Jet quarterback

29:41

I'll put it this way, other than the name of it that could

29:43

do what he can do. Rogers

29:45

what I feel. So yes, I would

29:48

put him right up there Jet next to Joe. But

29:50

who else on the Jet the quarterbacks over the years,

29:53

could even you know, could you even put there? You

29:55

know, Testa Verdi had some good years, but you

29:57

know, pretty much they've had some guys

29:59

that really nothing really and.

30:01

I hope that right, no, nobody

30:03

really Well.

30:04

I was just gonna say, I wish that we could have Keith on

30:07

a show every week.

30:08

He's so much.

30:09

Fun, such a blast

30:11

hanging out with your dad before the super Bowl

30:13

this past season. He told us so many stories,

30:15

It's fun about you growing

30:18

up and it was just like a delight.

30:20

So anytime you want to come on any of these shows,

30:22

I mean even shows that I'm not on, you should come on.

30:27

Very much.

30:28

I appreciate that.

30:29

Let's end it this way, Dad, because you

30:32

introduced Jets fandom to me, and

30:34

I learned a lot about name It from you and

30:36

watching old clips over and over

30:39

and over.

30:40

I was hoping we'd see Joe. I

30:43

thought.

30:43

I was hoping we'd see him at the Hall of Fame enshrinement

30:46

where two jets went in and they played in the Hall of Fame

30:48

game.

30:48

We didn't.

30:48

I was almost certain we'd see him on Hard

30:51

Knocks, but we didn't. Hope everything's good

30:53

with Joe. But since

30:55

we didn't see Joe in these episodes other

30:58

than a little quick clip at the top of the show, at

31:00

the top of the season, I want to play my

31:02

favorite name is clip for

31:05

you dad, as before we say goodbye, Hit

31:08

it Eric.

31:08

Okay, sometimes

31:10

they talk about drinking and conniving

31:12

around with ladies and stuff, and it seems

31:15

almost Unamerican to me for a bachelor,

31:17

not to mar you know, go around having a

31:19

drink with a lady now man, and

31:21

why all of a sudden, that's becoming evil

31:24

in me, just trying to get

31:26

bye. Look

31:28

at that shot and.

31:29

He buries the shot, that iconic, he buries

31:31

the shot.

31:33

He buries the shot. And if that isn't

31:36

that isn't the nineteen seventies, nothing is and

31:38

that was just typical of the way things were

31:40

in those days that it was really good.

31:42

And I did get to meet Joe one time when they

31:46

used to train in Long Island at Hofstra University

31:48

and was a good friend of mine, was on the

31:50

Hostra football team. And I'll just say

31:53

this one thing quickly. He said, Keith, you

31:55

want to meet Joe. I said, are you kidding me? Are

31:57

you asking me that question? And

31:59

I said, of course us And he says, well, listen,

32:02

he has to be in by eleven

32:04

o'clock in the dorm. And they were in the Hosture

32:06

dorm. Just would have acologized. And

32:09

sure enough, in a big Cadillac,

32:11

Joe comes pulling into the

32:14

parking lot, gets out and starts walking

32:16

up and we're right at the doors, and I said,

32:18

hey, Joe, how you doing? Hey

32:21

my favorite player?

32:23

And here I'm there.

32:24

I'm about eighteeth at this time, right and I'm suck get

32:26

out of here, you know, very friendly, very nice. So

32:29

that's that's my name of the story.

32:30

Wow did he make did

32:32

he make? Curfew?

32:33

He made it because it was right at eleven

32:37

so and sure enough, like he said,

32:39

every time, it's the same exact thing.

32:42

The car came peeling into the

32:44

parking lot literally you heard it, and

32:46

then out of the car into the and

32:48

he got in of course at eleven o'clock.

32:51

Wow.

32:51

Oh yeah, that's a true story.

32:53

Well from one legend to another.

32:55

Keith Hansas, thank you for joining us, Papa.

32:57

We love you, Keith, thank you

33:00

like that. There you go, my dad. I love

33:02

that Hofstra story.

33:05

To like eighteen year old kids

33:07

in the seventies waiting for

33:10

the great Joe Namath to roll in.

33:13

So good he said, eleven or twelve wins.

33:16

Yeah, he's feeling good.

33:18

But like I will, I will say that.

33:22

If they win eleven games and it,

33:25

you know, go quietly in the playoffs, it

33:27

won't feel like good enough

33:29

to me. Like I think they the bar is high

33:32

enough now where not only have to get back to the lafts. They gotta

33:34

make a little bit of noise, okay, and then you dream

33:36

big for something beyond that.

33:38

So just making the playoffs would be a disappointment,

33:40

a little.

33:41

Bit, a little let's get

33:43

to do you disagree?

33:45

No, I agree with all the fanfare and

33:47

everything, but I think too that is why some

33:49

teams sometimes don't want

33:51

hard knocks because they think that it's going

33:53

to we'll get to that too much.

33:55

Let's sit up here, let's get to our final

33:58

MVP.

33:59

This is.

34:01

Votes and this is

34:03

a major episode for Eric Roberts

34:06

vector voting system.

34:08

Well, I mean, first of all, he came into this episode

34:10

extremely strong. He was able

34:13

to navigate all sorts of technological

34:16

issues going into our screening room.

34:18

He figured out how to work the theater, which

34:20

neither one of us know how to do.

34:22

He just kind of sat there and heckled him while

34:24

he did it.

34:25

That was my favorite part of the really great job

34:27

you guys cheering me on.

34:29

I thought you were.

34:30

I thought you were just setting him up to mention

34:32

that he forgot to turn on our mics at the beginning of the

34:34

taping of this episode.

34:35

You can't win them all.

34:38

Magic of podcasts. Eric's done wonderful

34:40

work all season. His

34:43

job is to be the mathematician

34:46

of the group tabulating the vector

34:48

voting system. Let's do our

34:50

votes for m v P and then once we

34:53

hand out these three prize

34:56

places, Eric will share

34:58

with us the Hard Knocks MVP.

35:00

Third place for me this week,

35:03

that's it.

35:04

Robert Sala, the motivator,

35:06

I would play for that guy any day. I

35:09

like Keith Hansis, loved the

35:11

Mount Everest analogy. At

35:13

first I thought it was maybe going to be cheesy,

35:16

but the way that he explained it and landed

35:18

that plane.

35:19

Perfect jets exactly.

35:23

And then you know that that the finish the wall,

35:25

I mean, that has to be his idea. So

35:28

and I think that that is like an onion type

35:30

idea. So third is solid.

35:33

It's kind of putting yourself out there.

35:35

And we talked about it around the

35:37

NFL that very rarely does a coach

35:40

get three years. If you

35:42

don't make the playoffs any of those first three

35:44

years, you're gone.

35:44

They have not made the playoffs yet in his first two seasons.

35:47

Sala has a lot of pressure on him, but you could tell he

35:49

believes that this is the right team. I had him as my second

35:51

place vote. Okay, so Salad does

35:54

very well in our voting enough

35:56

to win it.

35:56

We shall see my third place

35:59

votes.

35:59

A vote go to You know, I

36:02

I love this defensive line, love

36:05

all season long.

36:06

And by the way, if I.

36:06

Could really, can we just quick aside

36:09

here if I really had to hand out one

36:11

MVP for MVP for season five,

36:14

it's Colleen.

36:14

Wolf oh Whoa.

36:17

Absolutely nailed

36:20

her prediction.

36:22

Slash wish that they end

36:25

Hard Knocks thanks a finale with a

36:27

trip to Broadway. Yeah, and what

36:29

do we see in the first fifteen damn

36:32

minutes? Aaron Rodgers, Zach

36:34

Wilson, a host of other players at

36:37

the MJ Show on Broadway.

36:38

You nailed it, my dream. This is all

36:40

I wanted.

36:41

It's show business, maybe your box office.

36:43

Like, on one hand, I would love to

36:45

be like, yes, this prediction was so

36:48

awesome and I knew it was

36:50

going to happen. I saw it before it even happened.

36:53

But also it's like I would like to

36:55

believe that maybe I planted the seed

36:57

and they were like, you know what, that is a great

36:59

idea call.

37:00

We will all go to Broadway, so, uh,

37:03

here we are.

37:04

You don't know for sure that's not what happened.

37:06

I know, but either way,

37:08

this is the power of putting things

37:10

out in the universe and seeing them happen.

37:13

So there this was like, this

37:15

was so awesome, Like I love this defensive

37:17

line too, and I'll let you keep going.

37:19

Yeah, I was gonna say Tanzel Smart was one of the people

37:21

there. Mister Carcucci board himself

37:23

Michael Clemens. I don't

37:26

know what's Clemens there. I'm not positive,

37:28

but I.

37:29

More we saw him in a different part of the show.

37:31

A general like shout out to the D Line

37:34

last week, I gave it to Smart kind of representing

37:36

the D Line. I'm giving it to Michael Clemens

37:39

for a birthday wish to Sauce Gardner.

37:41

That kind of sounded like a death threat. Let's

37:43

listen to it.

37:45

Ah, Damn it is sausage

37:47

birthday, though, I

37:50

think so.

37:50

Yeah,

37:55

Damn.

37:58

Smart, Happy

38:01

birthday, Happy

38:03

birthday, Bro, we go happy

38:05

birthday.

38:06

If you have a great I appreciate

38:08

it.

38:09

Bro. Not making eye

38:11

contact, No, won't look at him in the

38:13

eye.

38:14

And there's more to that story.

38:16

By the way Clemens has him by the

38:19

chest, like by his jersey,

38:22

It's really funny.

38:23

This is Sauce Gardner, who is arguably

38:25

the greatest young defensive star in

38:27

the sport entering his second season, being

38:31

grabbed by the jersey collar and

38:33

refusing to make It's like my dog when I come

38:35

home and he chewed something up. He just he won't even

38:37

look at me. I don't know what the backstory

38:39

is between Clemens, and it seems

38:42

very pretty clearly like a bit, but

38:44

I just like the idea that, like, there's a whole

38:46

other thing that's been going on through training camp that we

38:48

were not pretty to.

38:49

So all we have is that with no context. And

38:51

I loved it.

38:52

But I also did not see Sauce laughing

38:54

at the at the bit quote unquote.

38:57

So I don't know what the story is.

38:58

Sometimes a bit is only a bit to one side,

39:01

right.

39:01

Yeah, exactly.

39:02

This actually works perfect because my second

39:05

place vote and I guess if we're gonna

39:07

do D line, so you

39:09

had it for the full D line or clemens

39:12

on behalf Okay, So I'm gonna

39:15

go with Solomon Thomas here.

39:18

Run.

39:18

He was sort of I would like to

39:20

think that he was the leader in getting

39:22

this Broadway show and the

39:24

field to happen in general.

39:27

And they went, they saw Michael Jackson. I

39:29

think Solomon Thomas said that this was his fourth

39:31

time seeing the show, so avid

39:34

show watcher and Broadway guy.

39:37

But it was just so fun to see

39:39

all of the players out in the wild and

39:42

at a musical too, so they're dancing, they're

39:44

singing. I just wanted to know, though, the people

39:46

in the audience that were sitting behind

39:49

the players they had to deal with all of the hard

39:51

knocks cameras very

39:54

annoyed about that. That would have been absolutely

39:56

on my radar. So I don't know how

39:58

they felt about it, but it was.

40:00

Probably not a cheap ticket. No, you

40:02

know, to the MJ.

40:03

Broadway Show, Nathaniel Hackett had on a sport

40:05

coat that was cute.

40:07

Yeah, I loved it.

40:08

Yeah, they caught

40:10

Solomon Thomas had a moonwalk. That was That was

40:12

the part that I like though, and he was not good at

40:14

it, but it was funny.

40:16

I should before we move on to our second

40:19

and first place votes, I

40:21

have a prize for you.

40:22

I have a I have a yeah,

40:25

a prize or a surprise.

40:27

It's a it's a surprise, and it's also

40:30

an award for being so

40:33

prescient with your prediction. Yes, earlier

40:36

this season, the

40:38

premiere, in fact,

40:41

we had a certain player that wears number

40:43

eight on the Jets wearing a

40:45

certain hat that you thought was cool.

40:48

So behind the scenes here at NFL

40:51

Media, the yes, the hat

40:53

that says cherish the little Things a

40:55

gift from NFL Media.

40:58

Are you serious?

40:59

I love this.

41:00

I'm gonna wear this all the time. First of all,

41:03

it's black and white. So it's gonna go with so many

41:05

things, including this outfit. Yes,

41:07

I love baseball hats. I love trucker

41:10

hats. This is going in the rotation. I

41:12

love this.

41:13

Thank you?

41:14

All right? What'd you get me?

41:16

My presence is the gift?

41:21

All right? So you deserve that for that prediction.

41:26

L I owe you. Here's this visitor's

41:29

badge because I passed today.

41:31

Thank you. That's perfect. We even, all

41:34

right?

41:35

I said I had Sola second, Kay,

41:37

you had second place?

41:40

Solomon Thomas, Solomon.

41:41

Thomas first place.

41:42

Who do you got Aarons same seas?

41:45

We both have Rogers?

41:48

Just I mean he was a staple throughout

41:51

this entire series, clearly,

41:53

but the UFO story Loane

41:56

really drove home my first place

41:58

MVP vote for him.

41:59

I have to say, Colleen, I got something else

42:01

here?

42:02

What else is over there? That's like Christmas?

42:04

My banana just felt.

42:07

You know how many you know, how

42:09

many like you know how

42:11

many things have happened this year where I've thought to myself

42:13

or this during this show.

42:15

I feel like this was made for me.

42:17

Like it's a show about the Jets, and you

42:19

know, all these different things this

42:22

Aaron Rodgers.

42:24

And the UFO tidbit

42:27

from Aaron.

42:27

Rodgers felt like I was watching Unsolved Mysteries,

42:29

which is like my favorite show forever,

42:31

Robert Sock forever. I wanted

42:34

to bring in this Leslie Nielsen autographed

42:37

photo that I believe. I

42:39

want to say this my sister or my

42:41

brother maybe or maybe my cousin who was a family

42:43

members.

42:45

It's signed.

42:46

My son was born in twenty fourteen, Jack

42:50

Luck and laughs. Leslie Nielsen from

42:52

Naked Gun, who was prominently discussed

42:55

by Nate Hackett and Company as a

42:57

legend of the forum.

42:58

Now here's you want to talk about unsolved?

43:00

That's so cool.

43:02

Leslie Nielsen died in twenty ten. H my

43:05

son was born four years later. So I don't know

43:08

who signed this or if Leslie.

43:11

I don't know. I just want to say that, Leslie

43:14

Nielson.

43:15

You got this gift before Jack was

43:17

born.

43:18

I got it for his his birth. Yes,

43:20

Leslie Nielsen signed eight by ten,

43:24

four years after Leslie passed. Wow,

43:27

so somebody my son's name

43:30

did not create like exist in the ether

43:33

when Leslie left us.

43:34

So what an unsolved mystery.

43:36

That's an unsolved mystery. Now another unsolved

43:38

mystery. Aaron Rodgers with

43:40

his old cow teammate in

43:43

the New Jersey Woods, seeing

43:46

something that changed them.

43:50

We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.

43:53

I was making my way to bed. I had like a five am

43:55

wake up, and I

43:58

was I was getting down to bed. I heard this alarm and

44:00

distance going off. It

44:05

just didn't seem like normal. When I heard some rustling

44:07

downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.

44:09

A beautiful night, and

44:14

Steve and his brother and I walked outside

44:17

and up in the clouds, you

44:20

know, we heard this sound and we

44:22

saw this tremendously

44:24

large object moving

44:27

through the sky and it was like a scene out

44:29

of Independence Day when the

44:32

ships are coming into the atmosphere

44:34

and they're creating this like kind

44:37

of explosion type fire in

44:39

the sky.

44:42

I am on the edge of

44:44

my seat.

44:45

My heart is pounding, Aaron, I

44:47

need more more more.

44:49

I stood frozen to three

44:51

of us on the front stoop of Steve's

44:54

house, and about thirty seconds

44:56

later, we heard the real recognizable

44:59

sound of fight jets going that

45:07

seemed to be chasing this object.

45:11

And again we just stood there and just disbelieve.

45:14

For another few minutes. Nobody said a word,

45:16

and then we all kind of looked each other like, did we

45:19

just see what we think?

45:19

We just saw?

45:21

What was that?

45:22

You saw it? You definitely saw

45:24

it. That's what it was. That

45:27

was a UFO.

45:30

Now, Rogers obviously has taken

45:32

his fair share of slings

45:34

and arrows for being a little bit out there. And

45:37

I can understand why a certain like a doubter

45:39

or a skeptic might say, Oh, that's

45:41

the guy who's going to lead you to it for super

45:43

Bowl in fifty five years.

45:45

Yeah, you're damn right, that's the guy.

45:46

You know why, because he's seen the light.

45:48

Because he's right, He's

45:51

right.

45:53

That story was insane, you.

45:55

Know what a good music yougo is such a long way

45:57

by the way, that was very stacky

45:59

and unsought mysteries.

46:01

Good jab bravo as usual.

46:03

They really really

46:05

set it up well. But I believe

46:07

him. My dad is seen a UFO. And

46:10

Aaron Rodgers even said in

46:13

that whole retelling of the story

46:16

that they were right by a nuclear power

46:18

plant, like a few miles away from one,

46:20

and that is a noted.

46:22

Area UFO classic.

46:25

Behavior exactly, And that's where my

46:27

dad saw his because he

46:30

was in it was in the middle of the night, Ed

46:32

Wolf manning the air traffic control tower

46:34

a straight sho he is. He does

46:36

not like, he doesn't exaggerate about

46:39

things. He's not a storyteller that

46:42

like, you know, just adds in fake dee

46:45

for the stake.

46:45

Ever story, Yeah, never.

46:47

And he's even like sometimes a little bashful about

46:49

telling the story. And he's

46:51

at an air traffic control tower

46:53

in the tower in the middle of the night, and it's

46:55

at a missile silo because that's where

46:57

he was stationed during not

47:00

and he sees he

47:03

sees this bright light that's

47:06

not on the radar, and he's

47:08

sitting with someone else and he sees

47:10

the light zigzag across the

47:12

sky and then disappear. And

47:15

he turns to the guy next to him

47:17

and he said, did you just see

47:19

that? And

47:21

the guy goes, unless you want

47:24

to go to Vietnam, we didn't see anything.

47:28

To Vietnam.

47:30

Yeah.

47:31

By the way, you can only say noam if you actually

47:34

battled.

47:35

Him during NOM he was manning

47:37

the nuclear missile silo.

47:39

I listen, man, and

47:42

it's coming out more and more.

47:45

And Dorry and Dorr.

47:51

Yeah, Ed, I believe you.

47:53

I believe your story, and I believe

47:55

my quarterback saw something

47:58

he wasn't maybe supposed to say, are

48:01

we allowed to be talking about it?

48:02

Who's watching us? All question?

48:04

They are? Of course they are. I

48:07

know many people who have seen one.

48:08

All right, I think not to take the air out

48:10

of the balloon on this one. But I think

48:12

it's pretty clear who the MVP of the season

48:15

is. But why don't we go five to one Eric

48:17

Roberts and according to the vector

48:19

voting system? Because I'm just

48:21

gonna say, Connie, yes, now, I don't want to

48:23

step on it. I have in my mind, my

48:26

mind, who is the runner up? I

48:28

guess that I have. But

48:31

let's hear okay, I actually.

48:33

Think I know. I'm going to write it down what

48:36

one, two, three is?

48:37

Okay, Okay, I'll do the same thing.

48:39

All right, there we go.

48:41

So how about you go one to four because after

48:43

four it's event started four

48:45

thought for you.

48:47

Let me just make sure I have this written down

48:49

for posterity. Okay,

48:53

I am good, I have my I'm

48:55

like the mentalist right now, I'm writing it down.

48:58

I love that you.

48:58

Call me and Doreen, but like you're writing

49:00

stuff out and you have Leslie

49:03

Nielsen a framed photo.

49:05

I'm with you. On the writing man, I love I love

49:07

writing.

49:08

There you go, okay.

49:09

Fourth place guys Quinnin

49:11

Williams with twelve points.

49:13

Q you okay. I would have guessed

49:15

that too. I didn't go to four, but that makes sense.

49:17

He had a great year defensive lineman. It's

49:20

Sauce Gardner who has arguably

49:23

the highest upside of all these defenders and the

49:25

guy that is the kind of face of the defense. But

49:27

Q is a star

49:30

who just got paid and really showed himself

49:32

well in this series.

49:33

Is just like a nice guy personality.

49:36

Had a pretty funny line in the last episode, you don't

49:38

love me, you love that I get you sacks right.

49:40

What I do for you to mister Hackett. Yes,

49:43

third place, my name is Nathaniel

49:45

Hackett. Thanks, thanks to see you out

49:47

here.

49:47

Yep so and then either here was He's always good for a

49:49

good one liner.

49:50

So he you know, that is the power of

49:53

Nate Hackett offensive coordinator and

49:55

what a great job this show did,

49:57

kind of rehabilitating some of his

50:00

image after the.

50:00

Broncos Rogers

50:03

Big Butterfly exactly.

50:05

Me too, hack Okay,

50:08

So Hackett gets third.

50:09

He consistently he was a little quiet in the

50:12

finale, but overall, week after

50:14

week was living one liners.

50:15

I'm not surprised.

50:16

Second place, second place, guys, Roberts.

50:19

If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.

50:21

That's right, Salah. I think he

50:23

also quitted himself very well, Connie.

50:24

This season he absolutely did Leader of

50:27

Men and he should be doing

50:29

way more voice work.

50:30

Well, Jason doesn't need again

50:32

more competition, which means,

50:34

of course first place. And

50:37

the last year the winner of the Hard Knocks

50:39

MVP was somebody

50:42

probably Dan Dan

50:44

Campbell Dan camp This year,

50:47

twenty twenty three Hard Knocks MVP Aaron

50:49

Rodgers. Yes,

50:51

hees Aaron Rodgers not.

50:53

Gonna be so excited about it.

50:55

Look at this graphic.

50:57

I mean, Eric the dead MIC's at the

50:59

top of the show, completely forgotten. Now,

51:01

yeah, look at that Hard

51:03

Knocks MVP number. Even

51:06

a big old smile.

51:07

He's just so happy to receive this honor out

51:09

of all of his honors.

51:10

And look he gets another MVP, which

51:12

is great.

51:13

And that's that's yeah. It takes us too, Yes, he's

51:15

got five.

51:15

Now takes us to final thoughts of

51:17

the season, Colleen, Uh, what what did

51:19

he get by?

51:20

How many points did he finish with do you have

51:22

that?

51:22

Finished with forty two and

51:24

and Sala had Sala had a distant

51:27

fourteen?

51:28

Whoa, I didn't even I thought

51:30

we were kind of like we're a little.

51:31

The problem was the bread out

51:33

the like the points behind first

51:36

pretty like so it's never saw

51:38

like a second second second. It was always

51:40

like Aaron and then like a mixed smash.

51:42

Of like see that's the vector voting.

51:44

Vector voting system.

51:45

But that I mean, if we would have come to

51:47

any other conclusion other than Aaron Rodgers

51:49

is the MVP of the show, we would have been it

51:52

would have been the vector voting system would

51:54

have been torn asunder.

51:55

Yeah, he was the MVP. He deserved

51:57

to be the MVP.

51:58

Hopefully he's the real MVP in real football,

52:01

starting next Monday night against Robins's

52:04

Buffalo Bills.

52:05

Hold on a second, though, are we paying off? What did

52:07

you have written down here for your productions?

52:09

Close? I had Rogers, Hackett, Sala,

52:12

what did Hackett at twelve?

52:15

It was fourteen for Sala, Hackett

52:17

for twelve, Quinnen and Hackett both at twelve points.

52:19

And Connie she did it again,

52:23

you get that hat again. I was gonna take the hat

52:25

away, but now you get it. It's mine

52:27

cherish the little things. Starting with

52:29

Aaron Rodgers wearing that in episode one, I thought

52:32

this was a great platform for him, and it

52:34

feeds into my final thought, Connie, teams

52:37

need to relax. Teams need to stop

52:39

taking themselves so seriously. And

52:41

I include the Jets on this. I mean, you are

52:43

not in charge of the Manhattan project

52:46

here. You You are a football team,

52:48

and Hard Knocks is a program

52:51

that should not be seen as a distraction

52:54

or in any way an impediment

52:56

to your goals. And the said goal hoisting

52:59

Lombardi trop in February or Connie,

53:02

to look at it another way, if

53:05

having NFL cameras on your property

53:08

for like a month is enough to sidetrack

53:11

your summer and somehow

53:14

booby trapped the season to come, you were

53:16

doomed anyway.

53:17

Got bigger problems to worry about than

53:19

the Hard Knock count.

53:21

So to all the teams, and I hated

53:23

it as a Hard Knocks lover that

53:26

the enduring storyline leading up

53:28

to the season was like, who's gonna do it? They can't

53:30

find anybody. Please, Teams

53:33

look at this as the golden opportunity

53:35

that is so clearly is to show off your

53:37

players and coaching staff and

53:40

ownership and fans and

53:43

your state of the art facility and your team

53:45

history. In short, let NFL Films

53:47

cook. You'll be better off in the end.

53:50

Yes, isn't this whole thing what

53:52

we do? We talk about a game. A

53:54

game is entertainment, this show is entertainment.

53:57

We're in show business.

53:59

Or is her just once said you

54:01

play to win the game, you play

54:04

to be on Hard Knocks.

54:05

That's exactly right.

54:07

I nailed that, and you know we did get a

54:09

little bit of less access from the Jets also, And I

54:11

don't want that to be the start of a new trend.

54:13

Now, let these team, let the

54:15

NFL Film's crew do their job, and

54:18

kind of everybody will win. Does

54:20

he think anybody watched these five episodes of Hard

54:22

Knocks or any of the past season, maybe the Brown

54:24

season, you would come out of it thinking a little different

54:26

about the team. Hugh Jackson and

54:29

Greg Williams going at it behind the sea. Yeah,

54:31

but it makes it paints you in a positive

54:33

light if you are a team that it

54:35

has its together right.

54:37

And I think the Jets do right now.

54:39

And that's what's so exciting, and I think that

54:42

it shows confidence in an organization.

54:44

If you say yes to Hart Knocks, it shows

54:46

that you don't have anything to hide and you're

54:48

not worried about distractions because you have

54:51

what it takes to go and win when it actually

54:53

matters, and that this is really just base camp

54:55

right here before we get to Mount Everest.

54:58

And you know what else, I would like to see more

55:00

off site gatherings like Broadway. So

55:03

to the future producers of Hard Knocks,

55:05

please take us off site and

55:07

I want more.

55:08

Field Do you want more for see? I don't need

55:10

that as much.

55:11

I thought they'd got a good job of kind of raining that in a

55:13

little bit this season. What I would

55:15

like to see in the future is more behind

55:17

the scenes. I want to see more table

55:19

pounding and things like that. I

55:21

thought they kind of got it just right with We went

55:23

to Broadway, we did some charcouterie,

55:26

we got some tattoos with Will McDonald.

55:29

It was nice. They did a nice job. It was a

55:32

very enjoyable and it was.

55:33

There and they absolutely crushed

55:36

the sopranos open like

55:38

they did New York.

55:39

Well that's the other.

55:40

Thing, Like I said, Leslie

55:43

Nielsen name dropped. Okay, my favorite comedic

55:45

actor ever. Love them so

55:47

much that from Beyond the Grave he autographed

55:49

the glossy for my newborn son.

55:52

Sopranos probably my favorite show ever. Yeah,

55:54

Jets my favorite team ever.

55:56

You've always loved Hard Knocks too.

55:58

And Colleen my favorite.

56:00

Hey doing a show

56:02

with you being lucky enough to do

56:04

that, I uh, really

56:06

it's pretty cool.

56:07

You know.

56:07

I'm sad that it's over.

56:08

I am too, But I do think that we have

56:11

one more piece of business do we

56:13

to get to do we? Because

56:15

when I think about New York

56:18

and the Northeast, I

56:20

think about the food. People always ask

56:22

me, you know, do I miss Philadelphia and

56:25

Philly right down the street from New York.

56:27

I say, of course, I miss my family,

56:30

but I miss the sandwiches. I missed

56:32

miss cars. Any

56:34

type of bread please?

56:37

So WHOA

56:40

what do we have here?

56:41

Get a camera on this?

56:43

Okay, so we have some

56:45

food being delivered?

56:46

That is what do we got here?

56:48

Colleen, I honestly don't

56:50

know what we have is. It's a tailor pork roll situation.

56:53

It's a tailor pork roll.

56:55

And disco fries.

56:56

Disco fries.

56:57

Disco fries was not like part of my Philadelphia

57:00

life. So thank you so much, Parker.

57:02

What is on a disco fry? Let's that

57:05

looks like this? Well

57:07

look at this, Colleen, let's get a picture

57:09

of this. This is basically

57:12

New Jersey staples. Uh,

57:14

park can you get in the shot there?

57:16

Staples?

57:17

Get out?

57:18

I said in but running

57:22

staples of New Jersey diners.

57:25

There's nothing more in New Jersey than diners.

57:27

And what do we have here?

57:30

So it's like in a breakfast sandwich of sorts

57:32

with is this tailor pork roll?

57:33

Yeah, this is it?

57:34

And so uh Taylor pork

57:36

roll like and jeez.

57:38

That's everything you would ever want in a sandwich. And

57:40

Taylor is a brand of pork

57:42

but everyone just calls.

57:43

It a tailor, right, I don't know.

57:45

My dad calls it tailor pork roll, like the full

57:48

name, which I think is not

57:51

popular.

57:52

Where did this come from? By the way, it just got

57:54

wheeled in at it into this studio.

57:56

Is courtesy of the huddle are nice

57:59

people? Have theres that the fun fed

58:02

and hook us up with all the great food from upstairs.

58:04

That is love.

58:04

Mauriel put it together. Climb In Schneider

58:07

had their hands in involved in this. You know, I feel

58:09

like we sh a lot of people.

58:10

Try a bite here, right.

58:11

We were eating with the mic is always weird.

58:13

But I don't know. Do we say by and then by yeah?

58:15

Why don't we do that again? Yes?

58:17

Thank you to Matt Schnider, everybody

58:19

behind the scenes here. Thank you to Ken Rogers.

58:22

Yeah, the NFL Films who gave

58:24

us this great.

58:25

Wearing show hard knock shirt.

58:27

Proudly that we are so

58:29

obviously.

58:30

I hope we express it a door and we

58:32

hope to be back here again next year. Until

58:34

then, he the call, all

58:37

right, let's get in on its