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Be Around the NFL Podcast

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and drink of water went one

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hand. Welcome

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to another edition of the Around the NFL

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Podcast. I am Greg Rosenthal,

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not quite surrounded, but still

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joined by a city filled with heroes.

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Patrick clay Van and Erica tam

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post A, k A, Ricky Hollywood. What's happening

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Greg? A little

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different today? You know, they

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don't come at me, Hey, my favorite missing.

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I want Dan, I want Mark, but

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at you. Well, because because I'm representing,

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um, the

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people that they're that they don't want,

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you know, they want Dan and Mark. Uh,

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and um, they're not getting them this week. Let's

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break it down. It's uh, it's a little bit different

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of a week. This has been a very different

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offseason. And and Dan

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and Mark are taking

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a well deserved week to settle

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a bunch of stuff. And we thought,

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hey, we're here, let's take a

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couple of mini shows instead of going dark a

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couple of weeks before camp starts, We're just gonna

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hit you with the news of the day.

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We'll get a little extra Ricky Hollywood, will get

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a lot extra Patrick Claiban

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and we'll say bye and we'll continue

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our training for this. Greg's

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an extraordinarily nice person. I will translate

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for everybody that's that's trying to figure that out.

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Well, don't complain, You're lucky. I'm

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doing this for you. I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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I am the source of your joy,

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your pleasure, your pain you're suffering. I

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am I am Greg

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About to me, that's not quite what he said because

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the sat but no, um,

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but I like that interpretation. Ricky.

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You were you were at hands

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this manner um yesterday

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for a nice socially distant

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sitting far apart um quick

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meat up where you say, yeah, West, that's

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pretty exciting. So West Saukeisha, so

2:02

baby Lanky is just like so

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freaking cute. It's unreal. Um.

2:07

Colleen Wolfe was there and Dan and

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we all sat very very far

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apart, even with masks on, even

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that far apart. So it was it was very

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Um, it was really

2:18

really we were really careful. It

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was it's still though, it's still it's

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still cool. It was hearing. I was not

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able to make it unfortunately. Um

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it was tied up with with the family.

2:30

But uh yeah, West West and Keisha

2:33

said it was one of their best days they've

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had in a long time and get to feel like

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a normal person and talk to uh other

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people. It's exciting. Probably

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when I was your weekend, it was good.

2:44

Last week was probably the busiest week professionally

2:47

that I've had to

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the NFL, and uh, that

2:52

was different so the weekends

2:54

because like, honestly the start of all

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this, there was no difference

2:58

between the days. Everything was basically

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the same. But like I hit Saturday morning and it was

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like, all right, yeah, let's let's

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rest. And then my son immediately kicked me in the face

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and so like it was like a like welcome

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back to reality. But we're not resting that much.

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It's like Malcolm has wet three. Yeah,

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he's three, and you're in your newborn

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stage, is you know, a newborn? So yeah,

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you're not getting that much resting me. Yeah, but

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just the requirements on me, I could just I could just be

3:23

dad and so that was that was cool to just be dad

3:26

for a couple of days and right back at it today.

3:28

But not to the same extent because last week

3:30

was all right, and now we're yeah, we're putting

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you to work, and I apologize

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for that, but don't even have to put a shirt on for this.

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Just there's like a little bit of it. I think

3:40

an emptiness inside of me, and the only way

3:42

to try to fill it is by podcasting.

3:45

It's like Mark Mark said he was tired of hearing,

3:47

you know, the sound of his own voice. On some

3:50

level, it's like, Nope, not me, gotta just keep

3:53

talking out into the void. All right, let's let's

3:55

do some news, Ricky. If

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Captain Hook was moonlighting

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as a handy man, he might

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replace his hook with what tool?

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A hammer? A

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penis. I

4:19

have never seen Steve Harvey stop

4:21

during Fast Money, like during

4:23

the Fast Money around the fact that he was like what

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did he just say? Oh so good? That

4:28

was Steve Harvey, who's the

4:30

host of the Family Feud in

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an NFL Stars

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Versus Old Stars show,

4:37

And that was Bruce Smith with

4:39

one of the most memorable family feud

4:42

answers in a long time. That's that's

4:45

like, as a Family Feud host, your

4:47

job is to be there for when somebody said

4:49

something very sexually suggestive and

4:52

on that like, that's

4:54

the most important part of hosting that show.

4:57

And that's what Steve Harvey excels at. It

4:59

is uh, it's a classic. I mean, I

5:02

can't say I watched a ton anymore, but man I was

5:04

locked in as a as as a preteen

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and Michael Irvin, by the way, the clip

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of him celebrating one of his answers is

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also see what the question

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was. It was kind of

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like an easy either or question. It was like

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name a color on a on a checkerboard

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and he said red

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or black, which got fifty one out of a hundred,

5:26

and he celebrated like they won a fourth super Bowl. But

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I don't hate it. I love it. I love

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it. UM. I wish we had, you

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know, such joyful news to talk about.

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UM, well, I guess we do off the top depending on

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how you want to look at it. A right has

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been wronged and we we talked about it. The Washington

5:42

football team, UM,

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we anticipated they were going to change their name. They

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had officially said that they were only

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doing an examination into the team

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name. On Monday, the team

5:54

officially announced that

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they are changing their team name. They mentioned

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the old team name seven times in the

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statement, UM, which which was

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interesting. But it's coming. And

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perhaps the only reason why they didn't announce

6:08

what the new name is gonna be is there's reportedly

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a trademark dispute, but Dan

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Snyder, who's owned the team for twenty years and long

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fought against this change.

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Officially is on the record that

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it will be no more, and it will be no more before

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the season. So they're gonna have to figure

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out what happens with their uniforms and

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in everything else in the next couple of

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weeks. Patrick, and it was seemed

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like hopefully there's been

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some sort of plan in the works. And it's not

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just how that statement makes it sound, which

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is that Dan and Ron are just kind of

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like on a zoom call, just

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talking it out, like like you and Amica

6:44

or me and Lauren naming the kids

6:46

right, like

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hopefully there's more than just two people involved

6:51

and hopefully, Uh, this is the trademark

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issue is just you know, how squatters

6:55

are You see people do it with U R L s

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and Twitter names all the time. Will they just did some

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realtor apparently squatted

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on all these names. I think somewhat

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recently he saw what was happening and

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he suddenly squatted on like fifteen different names,

7:10

and so that you know, that's that's

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unfortunate, But at least

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like they didn't wait right until

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they had that resolved. They let everybody

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know everything in the week that

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we're not going to use the name anymore. And uh

7:23

and yeah, it's it's over finally,

7:26

Uh, which you move on something like

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it's I'm just glad, I'm just glad. It's fine. You

7:31

know. It is funny because we're this is one

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where we're NFL employees and a lot of

7:35

times we get comments, especially from

7:37

people overseas, Wow, you you guys,

7:40

you know you can. I'm not gonna do a nextent, but you

7:42

guys can really, you know, they really let you take the piss

7:44

out of out of the league,

7:46

even though you work for him. But there there are some

7:48

issues that you know, you always have to be professional

7:51

about it. But b was kind of a third rail issue and

7:53

this was it. This was almost like the number one third

7:55

rail issue. So there is something to me. You

7:57

mentioned, um, you know Mike Silver

7:59

call in the name racist. I looked

8:01

at you know that Judy Batiste the headline

8:04

she writes for NFL dot com today and just you know, calling

8:06

an embarrassed a long term embarrassment for

8:08

the league is finally over with.

8:10

And there's almost part of me that's still like,

8:12

can she say that? But but but it's

8:14

great because she can and Um,

8:17

it's the weird thing is it's

8:19

been such a long fight and we will move on

8:22

from it. But it's not like it's

8:24

not like this is a new thing in

8:28

I forgot the name, but an Indian council back in two

8:31

was battling hard for this. This

8:33

is almost a fifty year old fight. There

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were three thousand people Ricky

8:37

at the super Bowl in the early nineties

8:40

that Washington played at protesting

8:42

that super Bowl. So that's

8:44

that's thirty years ago. So it's not about

8:47

like, hey, this isn't like you

8:49

know, different Native um voices

8:52

have been battling this for

8:55

a long time and you know, I'm

8:57

sure they're they're thrilled to see this. I uh,

9:00

I don't know. It's it's like a larger question

9:02

in this in this time. Um.

9:04

But man, like that there's

9:06

a there's a reckoning, there's

9:09

another there's more reckonings for this country

9:11

out there. And I read this novel I'm just gonna give

9:13

it a shout called there there by Tommy Orange

9:15

last year and it's a novel, but man, it

9:18

made it provided kind of like a kaleidoscope

9:20

of the current native experience in

9:22

the country. That was eye opening. To

9:25

me, and and it's in a fictional way, in

9:27

in such a way that I'm almost like ashamed how little

9:29

I know I've ever thought about it. And it's

9:31

a brilliant writing too, So i'd recommend that

9:33

to anyway. Yeah, one thing that they kind of leached

9:35

out to me that through the course of the

9:37

conversation, again, like as you said, from

9:40

my entire life about this this team's

9:42

name, is this idea that

9:45

the only reason it matters is because certain people

9:47

are quote unquote offended and and somebody

9:49

always they say offended in

9:51

such a in such a way that it's like, oh,

9:54

well they're being ninnies, right, and that's

9:56

it. But it's it's not about who

9:58

is or who isn't quote quote offended.

10:01

Right. The the ideas

10:03

that we have perpetuate actual harm

10:05

on people, and especially

10:08

these people who were here before any of

10:10

us, Right, And if

10:12

we can't change at least even

10:14

the most minor things, that we're not gonna be able to change,

10:17

uh, you know, the things that that still impact

10:19

in today. And a shout out to the last person to complain

10:22

about me not using the team name on Twitter who

10:26

added the network and the league account

10:28

run by Bright and anybody else in social

10:30

who, I guess gets angry tweets about me. Why

10:33

did your late night anchor Patrick Clayban

10:35

on Thursday Night call Blank

10:38

the football team from Washington instead

10:40

of their nickname when doing the highlights of their preseason

10:42

games preseason games? By the way, is

10:44

this an option that you've given to your talent on the network?

10:47

Well, Uh, you don't have to worry about

10:50

me saying or not saying the team name anymore.

10:52

Uh. Sorry,

10:56

I guess today sucks for you. Sorry,

10:59

not sorry. You do

11:01

wonder. I do wonder a little bit, um

11:03

if the Chiefs are next and the Chiefs are different

11:06

because the chief There's many reasons

11:08

why it's different. Um, but I do

11:11

think it's it's possible,

11:13

and I don't think you'll see, you know, maybe

11:15

the tomahawk chalk at uh at

11:17

chief schemes in different sporting

11:19

events to um. Moving

11:22

on to uh to the issue of the day.

11:24

And there's not a huge update today

11:26

in terms of where

11:28

we are with the coronavirus in

11:30

California. Here just to give you

11:33

know, our listeners, you know, a clue of

11:35

kind of where we're at. You know, cases are skyrocketing,

11:39

they are now you know, adding

11:41

restrictions or re adding restrictions

11:43

um to what we can do in terms

11:46

of hair salons are now closed as of

11:48

Monday once again, indoor

11:50

malls, a bunch of indoor

11:52

activities essentially throughout the state.

11:55

So and that that's happening in a lot of places

11:57

where um, new mask

11:59

laws are are happening, new restrictions

12:01

are happening, uh in hot spots

12:03

throughout the country. So we're not in a in a

12:05

good place in the country. And that leaves the conversations

12:08

between the NFL p A and the NFL and how to start

12:10

training cap very complicated. And

12:13

you know, I could get into all the details.

12:15

I just don't think they're that interesting. But right now

12:17

the two sides are are talking on

12:20

Monday about everything, how they're

12:22

gonna on ramp the season, players,

12:24

safety, health, and then

12:26

economics. There's an idea to have

12:28

like a stipend. If you end up being on a team

12:30

or even if you show up to work, you get an extra

12:32

two hundred fifty thousand dollars or five

12:35

hundred thousand dollars this year that's guaranteed even

12:37

if the games aren't completed. That's one idea

12:42

maybe if if we if

12:44

we go have to go into the studio, we I think

12:46

we should talk about that. We should. Yeah,

12:49

I don't think they're right now. We are We're

12:51

not going back into the studio as NFL media

12:54

employees. But I think the

12:56

biggest takeaway is just we're two weeks away

12:58

supposedly from when all the teams

13:00

are supposed to show up, and I think it's

13:02

fair to say there is increasing um

13:06

concerned that they're not going to be starting

13:08

on that day. That that is that is up

13:10

in the air, and I think Ian Rappaportin

13:12

and some of the players have have talked about

13:14

that. I think my

13:17

hope is if they don't start

13:19

right, if if we're looking at this

13:21

at it won't happen. I

13:24

hope it's for safety reasons. I hope

13:26

it's not over a

13:29

contract dispute or just

13:31

the dispute over the money, because I

13:33

think we've seen, at least in Tom's reporting

13:36

since Friday, some pretty reasonable um

13:38

proposals from the p A side, right,

13:41

and you could you could negotiate

13:44

on that in terms of, you know, the stipend

13:47

or how much money is going to

13:49

players who have guaranteed salaries, uh,

13:51

in the event of a loss. But I

13:54

just I hope the decisions are being made

13:57

with regards to safety first

14:00

and then everything else can can kind of follow

14:02

after that. But I mean, if there's a if there's a good

14:04

faith effort on both sides to be as safe as

14:06

possible to start, then then that's the starting

14:08

point. But it's uh, it's unfortunate

14:10

that players who

14:13

and this is just in general how it is always

14:16

with with like c bas and

14:18

contracts, like. Players have a very limited window

14:21

to make money and the

14:23

owners have a significantly larger window. And

14:26

so when you're asking players to split

14:28

losses, right, if there's up to four

14:31

billion dollars in losses, if you want them to split

14:33

it fifty over the course of one year, I

14:37

don't think anybody could really look at that and say that's

14:39

that's fair. Right for

14:42

these players, in particular to the shoulder

14:44

that loss, it's it's

14:46

complicated, which was why I'm not going to be you

14:49

know, lightened, you know, torches

14:51

or take the pitchforks out at this point.

14:53

It is complicated, and I if on both

14:56

sides, and the revenue sharing aspect

14:58

to the league adds another layer

15:00

of complication. But nothing's more complicated than

15:02

the health stuff, and nothing's

15:05

more out of the league's control than the health

15:07

stuff in California and

15:09

Texas in Florida which is having record

15:11

cases. So yeah, I keep

15:13

going back to that same point. The league's not the

15:16

league and the players aren't gonna have any ability

15:18

to help control that, and that

15:20

that's where it's gonna be really complicated.

15:23

And and I did. I I reached out to Ian

15:25

see if he had anything extra where he's just kind of

15:27

feeling things, and he he just said he

15:30

nobody knows anything. Nobody knows

15:32

anything. So if you have this idea of like there's

15:35

a certain group of people that knows

15:38

what's gonna happen, I don't think. So. Maybe

15:41

it's at the very inside

15:43

of the league office where Roger

15:45

Goodell works, um has

15:47

like a hope of how things are gonna go. But I

15:49

don't think anyone in terms of teams, coaches,

15:52

or even the highest place media people really

15:55

have have any clue how this is gonna go

15:58

times and

16:01

and extrapolate that not just out through

16:04

the NFL, but through all of society.

16:07

UM in the United States of America, where

16:09

where nobody really knows. Are we bumming?

16:11

Are we bumming people? Are we bumming you out Erica?

16:13

That's what I worry about. I mean, no, it's

16:16

it's this is our current,

16:18

it's our present. I think it'll be interesting to see

16:21

what happens with the bubble with the

16:23

NBA. And I think that everything

16:25

that's happening right now in other sports is

16:28

going to directly translate to

16:30

to this league. And even Russell

16:33

Westbrook today is positive

16:35

for coronavirus, so it's

16:38

happening at an alarming rate. Still,

16:41

right, a lot of players in your right. I

16:43

I totally agree that some of the

16:45

trial and error that the MLB and NF

16:48

NBA are going through in terms of their testing time

16:50

and how that gets complicated, um,

16:52

that the NFL be watching that closely. But

16:55

the NFL also has uh has way more people.

16:57

By the way. I saw Russell

16:59

Westbrook at our

17:01

local kids park last

17:04

summer um

17:08

last summer, and I

17:11

mean not surprising that he's, you know, a

17:14

striking individual in person, but

17:16

he could do like he could

17:18

lift his daughter up to like the high

17:21

part of the playground in

17:23

which I could There's no way that I could,

17:26

like he could just pick her up and take her down, but it was

17:28

like seven ft in the air. And that's

17:30

the sort of level of parenting that he can provide

17:33

like that. I just can't. I just can't. What do you

17:35

have to climb up? And she's got a climb

17:37

up and down, which is fine, that's the whole idea,

17:39

but you know if she I think in this case, his

17:42

his kid was upset and he could just like reach

17:44

up and grab her and that wasn't gonna happen for

17:46

me. He's a tall you know, he's a guard, so

17:48

you don't think of it, but he is a tall, tall man.

17:50

Yeah. It's the scale of NBA players

17:53

kind of throws everything off, like especially when you think, like

17:55

like Dwayne Wade and Julio Jones are the same size,

17:58

but like us they Westbrook

18:00

is what six six or seven or something, So I

18:02

don't know, you don't think of it, but yeah, he looked like Cam

18:04

Newton. Apparently they play at the church. Him

18:07

and some players played Gonza. Gonza

18:10

are our friend Colleen's husband John Gonzalez.

18:14

Drop. Do you have that drop in

18:16

a studio? You think I can just pull it out of

18:18

the note? Maybe you could, like later, you could

18:21

just throw it in there. He somehows

18:23

he somehow knew he's in the neighborhood that the NBA

18:25

players get down at that that church,

18:28

Jim right near us. Moving

18:30

on, all right, let's talk franchise tag.

18:32

I know, Um,

18:34

I know, the training camp may

18:37

or may not start on time, but the rest of the NFL

18:39

little dates in terms of transactions

18:41

have gone off as planned all

18:43

off season, and that includes almost the

18:45

last one, which is the day that franchise

18:48

tag players have to sign a long term deal

18:50

by or they only

18:52

have the option to play under that tag. This year,

18:55

that day is July fifteen. That day is

18:57

Friday, I mean Wednesday rather and

19:00

uh, it does not appear that

19:02

Dak Prescott is going to sign a new

19:05

contract. They're very far apart um.

19:08

And to expand it even further, it

19:10

doesn't look like any one of the players

19:13

that was a franchise tag and there was fourteen

19:15

of them this year, which is a huge number. I think it's the

19:17

second most ever. Um got

19:19

the franchise tag this year. Justin

19:22

Simmons, the safety of the Broncos. They're apparently

19:24

talking Leonard Williams. He's not getting

19:26

it. Matthew Jude on is

19:29

fighting to be counted as a linebacker

19:31

instead of I mean a defensive end instead of a linebacker.

19:34

Shack Barrett's doing that. But my takeaway

19:36

two days away from this deadline is

19:38

that it looks like none of these guys are getting

19:40

long term contract. That includes Chris Jones

19:43

as well Patrick. And a

19:46

part of that is just the general

19:48

direction that the franchise tag is taken over

19:50

the last few years and and then

19:53

like not to like bring it back down,

19:56

but it's just just the uncertainty

19:58

that's associated with this virul right

20:01

um. And so there's

20:03

been and you see, like

20:06

like Ian said today that you know, there's

20:08

still two days for dec right, but what's

20:11

what's the incentive, right um,

20:14

especially if you're considering that there's a possibility

20:16

that this season might be shortened. Um,

20:19

you know, if he's if he's on the tag

20:21

like he

20:23

he could stand up lose a lot of money on

20:26

what's the incentive from the team You're saying,

20:28

because they're still they're still incentive from

20:31

the player's perspective to get that guaranteed

20:33

money sooner than later. Yeah,

20:35

I get some get some guaranteed money at the signing, But

20:37

what's as far as your there,

20:42

it's just it's just not there, and so

20:46

that's working out in their favor. And a lot

20:48

of these other guys it's just like, well we'll

20:50

tag him. Um you know

20:54

that they were interested in having them long term anyway,

20:56

most of them, I would agree. I don't

20:58

think Matthew Judon was ever are getting a long

21:00

term deal. I don't think Shack Barrett was ever getting

21:02

a long term deal. The

21:05

truth maybe Leonard Williams or Debt was

21:07

definitely not getting a long term deal. Joe Tuney

21:09

with the Patriots, Um,

21:11

I don't think it was ever getting a long

21:14

term deal. But guys like Chris Jones, who have

21:16

made some noise about letting this hold out go a

21:18

little further, it does appear like Chiefs

21:20

are trying to make some sort of good faith effort.

21:23

Um, it would be complicated, but I

21:25

just I just don't think it's gonna happen.

21:28

And the Cowboys, especially um

21:32

Many, they've got a good deal of just having him on a one

21:34

year contract. But it's dangerous. I mean, I

21:36

think the you know, it really is dangerous because

21:38

I think, you know, that's only gonna be

21:40

worth more and more as this. You know, if

21:42

he plays well this year, and I think he will, I just

21:46

I don't understand how we're still doing this thing

21:49

that Matthew Judean and Shack Barrett

21:51

are having to deal with, Like if you if you're rushing

21:53

the pastor a certain number of times, like yeah,

21:55

like just just stop trying to play call

21:57

these dudes linebackers like order

22:00

we do. He led the NFL and SAX, So you're gonna

22:02

like this is yeah,

22:05

for this is getting in the weeds. But this is a

22:07

battle that's been going on I

22:09

think for like fifteen years at different positions.

22:11

There was outside linebacker and inside linebacker.

22:14

Teams used to battle over and they just made it total

22:16

linebacker. You're right, they need to make edge a

22:18

position. That's what we've done at

22:21

the Projected Starter series. You

22:23

know, that's what they've done at Rhoda World.

22:25

They don't even mess with the

22:28

they just go edge follow us. We just say edge

22:30

for the NFL Draft. I mean it's it's not like

22:32

you know, these Mario Williams, Julius

22:34

Peppers guys are coming in a whole lot like

22:36

where it's just like, oh, yeah, this is this is the guy,

22:39

Like you line up for us the quarterback.

22:41

Then you're an edge. That's all right. We

22:43

don't have like a ton of like high super

22:45

crazy level news, but we are going to run through a

22:48

few more stories quickly, one

22:50

of them including the Patriots that I don't

22:53

think it's just me being a Patriots fan that finds us

22:55

interesting. They opened up seven

22:57

point seven four million dollars in space

23:00

over the weekend when the

23:03

NFL ruled in their favor

23:05

on a pair of grievances involving Antonio

23:08

Brown and wait for it, Aaron

23:10

Hernandez. They are getting salary cap

23:13

space back um

23:15

from the Aaron Hernandez saga in

23:18

the year Erica,

23:21

I know you're a salary cap expert. I also

23:23

know you're an Aeron Hernandez expert after watching

23:26

them the documentary, I think

23:28

he listened to the podcast. You

23:30

are a Patriots fan. Your thoughts, I

23:32

mean, yeah, when it comes when it comes to cap

23:35

stuff like I'm your girl, and this is this

23:37

is huge news. This is the best

23:39

news of uh

23:42

No, I have no idea. I think I mean it's it's

23:44

it's kind of good. That feels like that sort of closing

23:46

the door on the I mean, you don't want

23:49

to turn your turn a blind eye to the

23:51

Patriots history, but it

23:53

is sort of nice to kind

23:55

of put that behind us going forward.

23:58

It's also nice to get an m v P quarterback

24:00

and be like, oh man, we all look, man, we

24:02

only got so much money. You know what I'm saying. If

24:04

you want to play football, that's good. This

24:07

is all we got. You know, this is this is this

24:09

is right. And then the next week it's like,

24:11

oh, hey, look, Reassby, well

24:13

you already signed. Okay, well yeah some

24:16

else. Oh I didn't even think about that.

24:19

That's um, maybe maybe

24:22

that plays into a future

24:24

signing. I mean, maybe it's like a come and make

24:27

sure you're healthy and show I mean,

24:29

I know that's like the stupidest argument. I mean, they would

24:31

love I would They would love Cam to ball out

24:34

and to sign him to a big term contract.

24:36

They can use the franchise tag. I'm Cam, and he does

24:38

have a lot of incentives in his contract, but not that

24:40

many. I mean, not enough where if he plays

24:43

well as a starter, that he's

24:47

got to be the best bargain in

24:49

the entire league. And you know, you know who believes

24:52

me? Who agrees

24:55

Cameron Newton let's let's listen to Cam

24:57

Newton. I know you haven't heard

24:59

this, Patrick, but I don't know. There's something

25:01

about me. I've always been a Cam fan. I'm

25:03

obviously Patriots fan. There's something

25:05

about this entire experience that, as

25:07

we're getting closer to it, is fascinating

25:10

to me. And I just want to listen to a

25:12

video that Cam released after

25:15

a workout. If you can find it,

25:17

it's where it's cinematic. I mean, well, I mean we're

25:19

listening to. We're gonna listen to the whole thing, So Patrick,

25:21

feel free. We can talk a little over it because otherwise,

25:24

like it's a minute and a half long, let's hit it, Ricky.

25:28

You know what makes it different is

25:34

he's actually Camp. Yeah,

25:40

I ain't seen him. That's

25:43

a big by the way he talked.

25:49

They forgotten Cam. Yeah, you

25:52

on Cam

25:54

tired of being sick of tire

25:56

Camp. I

26:00

felt like I was just left

26:02

to die. But there's a lot of in

26:05

those you know what I'm saying, it's just

26:07

just just sober

26:09

with for him. He ain't the same player mm

26:13

hmm. The Atlantic and what you're

26:15

saying, this is the this is the

26:17

growing up Cam Patrick. People

26:20

for can is literally the son of a preacher. Man.

26:25

I adore, I admire,

26:28

taste it. I want to. I want everything about it,

26:32

you know what I'm saying. Because he's got to work out

26:34

in doorphins, juice and through h I ain't

26:36

never seen that me. We gotta get uh,

26:39

We're gonna get these guys to like follow more

26:41

friendly timelines so they're

26:44

not only do I admire

26:46

it, I want to taste it. I

26:48

want to. I want everything about it,

26:50

all right, because I

26:55

ain't never seen that me. You

26:57

know what I'm saying, I ain't wait.

26:59

Did we just moved back to the beginning or something?

27:01

What just happened? Now he's just repeating himself,

27:05

he is, here's the big end. You got more energy?

27:09

You know what I'm saying. I told to say,

27:11

Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, We're

27:14

going to Charlotte. I said, no, soare

27:18

Charlotte? Did We've got another place

27:20

we're going to? We're

27:23

going North? Oh? Yeah,

27:27

North. The smile on

27:29

y'all's faces when he said that,

27:32

even though both of you had heard it before, this

27:35

kind of indicates to me the passion of

27:37

being an NFL fan. And I'm glad that you

27:39

guys have another uh at

27:42

the quarterback. I'll be a more cinematic

27:44

one almost almost. I

27:47

mean there is something to First

27:49

of all, I love that, you

27:52

know, he said he said the humble cam

27:54

is gone. It's like the Humble

27:56

cam wasn't around for too long and no one wants

27:58

that. That's not that's not cam is I want.

28:01

I want this cam. I love that he's

28:03

he's calling himself the uh. We have to

28:05

beat out some words there, but they did it

28:07

on cam and I don't know. I

28:11

it's just gonna be It's gonna

28:13

be fascinating. I don't know. It makes me so

28:15

much more excited if there is football this

28:17

season. I just don't want him to be bad,

28:21

you know. I don't want to imagine what Boston is

28:23

like if he doesn't play well. Um, but

28:26

man, he's gonna make it. He makes

28:28

it. He makes it fun. Please. People talk

28:30

about Jared's did I'm competing with him and it doesn't

28:32

even like cut off. He is like we're

28:34

going north and then he like looks off into the

28:36

distance and then walks into the darkness

28:39

like someone falling. And I was just like,

28:41

well, let's go. Yeah, you're

28:44

right that this is NFL fanom in a nutell because

28:46

I never watched any of these player type

28:48

videos, hype type of I've never watched the camp

28:50

video like this before. But now that

28:53

now that it's the Patriots and in this quiet time,

28:55

I'm like watching this and thinking, oh yeah, watch

28:57

out right,

29:00

I think we're gonna we're gonna know pretty

29:02

early, right, Um. I think so, somebody's

29:04

gonna run a deep out and if Cam's fastball

29:07

is back, well, then you guys are gonna win the super Bowl. I

29:09

mean, that's

29:12

the only that that's the only

29:14

difference, like if Cam, if Cam's arm

29:16

is back, then then that's it the page,

29:18

you think. So, I think you're gonna know by mid August

29:20

if if they're actually practicing at full speed,

29:22

and that's gonna take weeks I think to really

29:24

find out about but maybe it's late August.

29:27

Basically, if he's just out there and he's healthy, then

29:29

then we know. Then they have Cam for as long

29:32

as as it's gonna last. And

29:34

maybe that's six games, maybe that's

29:36

six years. It's it's

29:38

really tough to tell, but it is. It is

29:40

one of the delightful subplots

29:43

of this season that that makes me hope that

29:45

we do have it um after

29:47

this season, though we already know a little bit about

29:50

the broadcasting teams. For one,

29:53

Greg Olsen has officially

29:55

signed to Fox Sports. We've been tracking this

29:57

story and I just figured let's throw it

29:59

in there. He is signing one

30:01

to Fox Sports. He's going to be their number

30:03

two analysts along

30:05

with Kevin Burkhard. That was the old Charles

30:08

Davis roll. Charles Davis is going to CBS.

30:11

Moose Johnston is gonna fill it this

30:13

year, but just for one year. And Greg

30:15

Olsen is getting a nice post

30:18

um career gig. And I'm

30:21

all about it because I think he's done a great job when

30:23

he's who's done some games. I can't

30:25

wait to see what the third leg of Gregg's career is

30:27

gonna look like. I mean, he is just, uh, he's

30:29

taken over. He's been in at

30:34

Miami, UM flourished in

30:37

Charlotte. You know, they had an opportunity to win a Super

30:39

Bowl, and I think it's good. Like there's

30:42

there was this era right of color guys

30:44

UM that didn't

30:47

really it seemed like it

30:49

was forced almost and kind

30:51

of Romo has opened up this idea of just

30:54

kind of get up there and be you don't

30:56

necessarily try to fit into this this broadcaster

30:59

mold that we've all been up there and

31:01

if you if you want to have if you want to have fun, if

31:03

you want to be excited, if you want to riff on the guy

31:05

that's calling the game, like, go up there and do it. I'm

31:08

I'm sorry to see Greg do it. I'm excited to

31:10

see you know, the next wave. Not to not to

31:12

push anybody out, but you know, just let's

31:15

let's just watch the game and have some fun and

31:17

uh not be all kaji mm

31:19

hmm. Give Nate Burlison

31:21

and that uh NFL network team and mid a little

31:24

extra work too. I think they were fun

31:26

out in the UK last year.

31:29

A couple smaller items. Again, we're

31:31

gonna close up with here and and say goodbye,

31:33

and we will be doing one other show this week. Unless

31:36

you just come at me and say, uh no,

31:39

no, She's just like that wasn't good

31:41

enough. Sorry, Greg um

31:43

raheem most had a trade with quest.

31:46

This happened after we taped their last podcast

31:49

on Wednesday. Since then the agents

31:51

walked it back some somewhat or totally

31:54

that he realizes it was a bad idea, but he does

31:56

want to raise Raheem most Or a

31:59

super Bowl and playoff hero.

32:01

I mean could have been, you know, one of the most valuable

32:03

for there was Erica,

32:07

but they just don't want to pay him because he's a running back

32:09

and they find running backs and trees in San Francisco.

32:12

I do think it's a little it's

32:14

funny that he's like, actually, you know, I don't

32:16

want to trade anymore, which is like the ultimate

32:18

leverage. It's like if I go to my boss and I'm like, hey,

32:21

someone's really recruiting me and like they're gonna

32:23

pay me whatever. Then they're like, okay, go

32:25

and it's like, oh wait now, Like I'm good

32:27

here, but can we like work something out. I mean,

32:29

you've tried that move I have. Yeah, I'm

32:31

still trying. I try it. You know, you've

32:34

tried, like they be getting steps of that of

32:36

that move. I think it could be successful.

32:38

I think at this point, your leverage is greater than

32:41

it's ever been. Yeah, I agree. But

32:43

for for he most Er I

32:46

think they kind of like I would.

32:48

I would think that Shanahan would want to keep that

32:50

team as close together as possible

32:53

for right now because they're in that window still

32:55

and especially with the season that they had, they're

32:58

in a good place. But

33:00

that stage stage stage

33:03

is making a guest your parents. Uh, do

33:06

you wanna do you? Do you need to do? You need to

33:08

go? Do you want to bring stage on the show. It's up

33:10

to you. I mean she is on the show. I love having her. We

33:12

can yeah, we can see her here in the second Lauren is

33:15

manipulating a

33:17

a extrement receptacle device

33:19

and uh,

33:22

you see this is what Um, I'm

33:24

sure it's a great audio. No,

33:26

I think it's great. It's a slice of life. Um.

33:29

But honestly, like I

33:31

understand where raheem most it is coming from. You're

33:34

just pivoting right off of sage. I thought

33:36

you were given to give some fatherly like, Okay,

33:38

this is what life is like, is it? Don't really have any

33:40

like things to present, Like Lauren's

33:43

has just been carrying us this this a couple

33:45

of weeks. And so like my fatherly

33:48

advice would be to uh to

33:50

find a spouse about Mary Lauren.

33:53

Yeah, that's it. I would suggest

33:56

everybody somebody

33:58

like my wife, but not my wife because I like her

34:00

too much. If you guys want to say Hey this stage.

34:04

Yeah,

34:09

oh my goodness, she is

34:11

so beautiful there because living

34:13

that baby life sceneing Lincoln and look

34:16

a little yawn. Oh you're just

34:18

waking up. Yeah, I'm

34:20

not happy about it. Maybe maybe

34:23

this lights a little bright so

34:25

cute like for most

34:27

are if if I

34:30

get it, like the dudes over six yards and

34:32

carry right for his career. And I understand

34:34

that people want to like attribute

34:36

that, and I know that we've done a lot of math

34:38

here recently with regards to running

34:41

backs, and like the

34:44

guy is is popped off big runs and

34:47

he makes plays, so like, why wouldn't

34:49

he try to get like trying to get some money? Man,

34:51

Like, we don't know how long this game

34:54

is gonna exist. We don't know how long players

34:56

careers are gonna So I'm never gonna like dump

34:58

on a guy for trying to put himself

35:00

in position to to make some more money.

35:03

Well, here's the thing. He he was the best one last

35:05

They were they were at their best last year, and he

35:07

was the best one last year, especially

35:10

when it mattered. They've had a lot of different people in there,

35:12

and this is kind of a something people

35:14

don't consider when you bring free agents into

35:16

your um organization

35:19

that the other people at that position see

35:21

what they make and if they end

35:23

up outperforming them, then that becomes

35:25

a problem, or if they already were in this case,

35:27

moster you know, was paid

35:30

at a normal rate. But now he sees

35:32

Tevin Coleman and he saw what Jerrick McKinnon

35:34

was making. UM, and he's making

35:37

a lot less than them, and he was a lot more valuable

35:39

than Tevin Coleman was even when Coleman

35:41

was on the field. And so uh

35:43

and so you get upset, and uh, maybe they'll give

35:45

him a little pop. Maybe I wouldn't be surprised if they

35:48

put some incentives or throwing throwing something

35:50

into his country, give him a throw him a bone at

35:52

least. Um. We are gonna wrap

35:55

up with some more running back news, which is

35:57

that DeVonta Freeman Um,

35:59

who is not in the right now, reportedly did

36:01

have interest UM

36:03

from a variety of teams but couldn't

36:05

settle on on the right number. Um

36:08

has had his relationship with his agent

36:11

terminated. That his agent

36:13

sort of fired him, I guess basically because he wouldn't

36:15

take the contract that she uh was

36:18

hoping that he took, which

36:20

is you don't see that too often. Yeah,

36:23

I would. I'd like to hear from DeVonta Freeman,

36:25

right, because

36:28

um, the agent

36:30

out in front right has has something, has

36:32

some has a lot of skin in the game. Uh,

36:34

maybe not as much as as DeVonta Freeman.

36:36

And I'm not I'm definitely not doubting anybody's reporting,

36:39

but um, you know, it's kind

36:42

of like when a marriage doesn't work and it's

36:44

like, yeah, sources say that he was

36:46

a jerk, and it's like, oh, well, let's

36:48

let's uh, let's get another point of view

36:50

here, because maybe maybe

36:53

there's some blame to be cast on both sides.

36:56

Are you are you you

36:58

know, referring to the did J Cutler

37:00

divorce or any

37:03

okay, perhaps any any relationship

37:05

involving more than one person, right, Because there

37:07

were some stories, there were some stories

37:09

that came out immediately that didn't paint

37:12

day in the in the in the in the

37:14

brightest light, and uh, you know, and

37:17

pressed and it felt like, Okay,

37:20

this is probably not coming from Jay's camp. Yeah,

37:22

does J? Does J Cutler paint himself in the brightest

37:24

light? Like it's like, who can you

37:26

blame here? Really? I

37:28

mean, but honestly, I mean when you get involved

37:31

with with a J. Cutler, one would think

37:33

that you would be aware of the circumstances

37:35

that would follow um. But

37:38

you know, all the best to Jay and

37:40

Kristin and Davante and his agent as

37:42

well. His agent his name Kristen, Kristen

37:44

Campbell. Yeah. I don't like it when the agents putting it out

37:47

there like that. There quick clearly trying to

37:49

say like, hey guys, it wasn't my fault that he didn't

37:51

get a contract this offseason, so it's playing

37:53

the game. I don't love that. In one on the

37:55

topic of agents, one thing that that I thought about, Charlie

37:58

castlely kind of slightly went in

38:00

on Patrick Mahomes agent uh last

38:02

week and it was like the first

38:05

time that I remember any concrete

38:07

criticism of a player's agent, uh.

38:10

And so that was cool too. Do you like that?

38:12

You like to see that? Yeah, because when the when the when the

38:14

players signed their own contracts, right, it's

38:17

like, oh, they could have got this, that and the other.

38:19

But if it's if it's an agent done deal, generally

38:22

the idea is like, oh, well, this is the best that they could

38:24

have done. You know this they were working with certain circumstances,

38:27

because agents really dictate the course of our conversations

38:29

about a lot of things. And uh,

38:32

I'm glad I've got a better one. Now that

38:37

it ended good, I

38:40

want to I want to hear more about that later. But

38:43

in the meantime, Erica, hopefully

38:46

you find the agent of your dreams. I

38:48

hope. So, thanks Greig, I've got mine

38:50

and a shout out to Burke. And that's

38:53

it for this show. I think we're just doing news.

38:55

We're gonna update you on everything

38:58

that's happening in the NFL a little later in the week,

39:01

and um, and that's it. And we'll be

39:03

back with our our full shows next

39:05

week and our TV are around the NFL

39:08

broadcast next week. But we're gonna hold it down

39:10

this week and we're gonna have fun doing

39:12

it. Thank you, Patrick, thank

39:14

you. Let's do it for

39:18

Patrick Claiborne. Erica

39:21

tam pose for Lauren

39:23

and Sage. They jumped in here for

39:26

Patrick Claiborne's fired agent, see,

39:29

wouldn't they

39:52

m