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bear, one Gts. Speaking of Israel, Palestine

1:01

saw that for us. I'm so glad

1:03

you asked me that time. Know you

1:05

who and where the plan? Ah

1:09

have you ever do do you taught

1:11

you know talk? I've never seen it,

1:13

our bosses, politics or dog, just in

1:16

general. You tell the best stories

1:18

I just of I can like find a

1:20

way in or guy member in twenty. I

1:22

was touring and like during the the election

1:24

cycle right of last like you know something

1:27

will find his way into the news where

1:29

you go like oh there's the angle for

1:31

me on this right I then I can

1:33

move in on that but I don't go

1:36

like here's here's my. Position.

1:38

On this because I always feel like met

1:40

people ask me. Actually I get as sometimes

1:42

you don't have to go. what's your dream.

1:44

Job. Yeah or the or like

1:47

when. Daily. Show has

1:49

you know, We're. Going to

1:51

hire do has we'll go would you love

1:53

that are when I go No another lie

1:55

and I choi said i don't you I

1:57

say because I go there's there's just things.

2:00

As you done as a while you're there

2:02

are people who are you realize that people

2:04

good for that job you like There's I

2:06

can name ten people Star Go can do

2:08

that. Well if men I'm like if you

2:10

go as fast as a matter how much

2:13

longer I could bang out this one night

2:15

a weird kill him at. I mean are

2:17

you having fun? Oh yeah no it's it's

2:19

ball. As if it was like to be

2:21

back to Missouri with the first time though.

2:23

like super weird. Super weird. Yeah because it

2:25

was a match and like it was like

2:28

a flash forward. Have you ever seen those

2:30

means were like a group of friends will

2:32

take a picture and then the like get

2:34

together again. Thirty years later? Yes, take the

2:36

exact exact yes Yes I've been gone for

2:38

like nine years. Yeah, like the whole day

2:41

a lot of people die so that I

2:43

worked with are still there there. So it

2:45

really was old home like like. Really?

2:48

Like. A Love those guys and and

2:50

we have a great time together or haven't told

2:52

of on by a scrap of get real excited.

2:55

For. Can put the suit on that the make

2:57

a buck. Sat down and the dusting. Time.

2:59

Or comes up looking the monitor and I was like.

3:02

Oh that's that picture that it

3:05

does is the exact picture. yeah,

3:07

but ten years later, which is

3:09

jarring sure, because. I. Don't

3:12

know if you know the process

3:14

of erosion. Easy hydration would it

3:16

has. it has changed my visits.

3:18

Ah ha ha. So that part

3:20

was. Was. Jarring. It's.

3:23

You But you know, It. Really did feel

3:25

a little bit like that. Albert Brooks, you

3:27

know, descending your life city? Sit down ago

3:29

in my life? Really? Yeah, Blue Net a

3:31

great you had exceeds that spoke about that

3:33

when we did those gigs about. Oh yeah,

3:36

I'm. Older. Yes, Yeah, That's

3:38

what happens. Yeah, yeah. Somebody.

3:40

Said to me once it was doing an interview. And

3:43

he was Buddy apps. And.

3:45

Are beset an interview. As

3:47

time passed you by. An

3:49

and I go. Yeah.

3:53

I think that's. Seat at times job

3:55

the all the time it's like is.

3:57

it doesn't is not what it does

4:00

it passes us by. Yeah. These younger

4:02

people with tauter skin, they rise up.

4:04

We just encourage somebody in our staff

4:07

and who just turned 28,

4:09

we were like, take nudes this year.

4:12

Like, you don't understand, you're not going

4:14

to regret it. And if

4:16

you don't, if you don't want to go full

4:18

penthouse, 28 might be too late. I mean,

4:20

it's like, 25, 24. Dude, I shower with my clothes on.

4:26

It's like, it's gotten that, it's gotten

4:29

that bad. Yeah, it's, I mean, it

4:31

all goes, we're all, we're dying. Yes,

4:33

that is, that is correct. But you're

4:36

not like, I hit that point

4:38

where, like, I still have

4:41

a couple of milestones. Like, I think 65 is a

4:43

milestone. I think in terms of social

4:45

security, maybe 68. But like, I'm

4:48

in my 60s. Like, there's no, I can

4:50

no longer even, you're holding up well, though,

4:52

man. Oh, well, I'm absolute

4:55

physical specimen. I mean, but you

4:57

look good. That's very kind.

4:59

Like, I remember, also, like, genetics

5:01

play a role, obviously, on mine.

5:06

Taking care of the family. I'd like to

5:08

show I'll show you mine. Yeah, they're like,

5:10

I remember I was like, but you're in

5:12

the best shape you've been in your life.

5:15

That's true. That's the one advantage of getting

5:17

really, really fat when you're young. You

5:20

can really do a

5:22

big self correct thing. You're really gross when you're

5:24

right. And then I that's when to do it.

5:26

That's when to do it. I see friends from high

5:28

school. I'm like, Oh, no, you're fat. You

5:31

were how the tables have turned my friend.

5:33

You actually you were like this skinny little

5:35

guy. And now you really have let go.

5:37

It's kind of no I could tell once you started

5:39

giving out specs on gym equipment, I was like, Oh,

5:42

Tom's not fucking around now man. I was like, Yeah,

5:44

I'm on the phone. And this guy brought me the

5:46

XG 90. I tried it out for a couple days,

5:48

but the plates, they weren't the right plates. I think

5:50

that's the only way I'm going to get through the

5:52

next 15 years, right being how

5:54

old are you now? What's the I just turned

5:57

45. Oh, Oh,

6:00

Tom. That's good, it's my

6:02

good decade. So good, 45 is,

6:04

you're at the peak of

6:07

your proud, you've got 10 years

6:10

of pure brain

6:12

function and physical specimen.

6:15

Tell me. Do you wanna,

6:17

I could ask you right now to go outside and

6:19

shovel snow and you can handle it no problem. I

6:22

think so. You would bang it out, come back in

6:24

the house, toast yourself up by the fire, have sex,

6:27

and then still, you're at the peak, 45. 45's

6:30

good, right? And 45, people forget, I

6:34

don't know if you remember the movie, Cacun. I

6:36

think Wilford Brimley was 45 in that

6:38

movie. Seriously? Yeah, the ages of

6:41

people. It's completely changed. Completely changed.

6:43

You've seen that ad, right, from

6:45

the, it's an old

6:48

ad from the 60s of, it

6:50

has eight or nine women and it's like these women

6:52

are all 40. No,

6:55

47. Right. I

6:58

mean, some- Looks like the Golden Girls. Some of them

7:00

look 75. Wow, yeah, it's a

7:02

totally different world. It's a different world. They

7:04

actually, there's a few that you go, okay,

7:06

that looks, she looks 47 by

7:08

today's standards. Because everything

7:10

has evolved with lifestyle

7:13

and care. Some of them look

7:16

so much older. You can't believe it. And it's

7:18

like, they're not making a joke, they're just like-

7:20

It's almost like cigarette smoke

7:23

is a carcinogen. They

7:25

were ensconced and I can remember, like

7:29

in the 60s and 70s, there

7:33

was nowhere you could go that didn't

7:35

just smell of smoke, including doctor's offices.

7:37

Everywhere. You would go in for a

7:39

checkup with the pediatrician, he'd be like,

7:41

how you feeling today, Johnny? Things are

7:43

good? The testicles drop? Everything,

7:45

you know? And he'd be smoking. I

7:48

mean, I remember I still, when I would visit, my mom's

7:50

from Peru, we would go, the

7:52

flight, it was like, row

7:55

20 back was smoking, the

7:57

row. Was I gonna get up to 19? I

8:00

mean, how could it get up

8:02

there? You're moving this direction. Clouds. I

8:04

mean, so much. And I was on those flights. I was

8:06

like, oh yeah, this is, and you think it was normal. You

8:09

just like, did you ever get on those planes

8:11

like in the 2000s that

8:14

still had the ashtray in

8:16

the arm? Like the armrest would go down and pop it

8:18

open. Pop it open, yeah. That ashtray would be there and

8:20

you'd be like, this is, yeah,

8:23

and they still make that

8:25

announcement. No smoking. Now they go no.

8:27

That's only for Dixon, James Dixon. That's only to

8:29

keep him from. I

8:32

think they use his name now in the announcement.

8:34

They do, they do. On every flight. If James

8:36

Dixon is on this flight, please do not smoke

8:38

during the flight. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

8:40

Yeah, that's a lot, man. That's a lot. Yeah,

8:43

I mean, I don't know. It is so

8:45

cool. I was just in Italy. Right. Were

8:48

you playing? No, I was just hanging for

8:50

a few. I know, nice. Sounds good. Having

8:52

a nice. Have you taken

8:54

vacations like that or breaks like that? No, it was in

8:56

the, I mean, it was in the middle of all this.

8:59

Just the wife left the kids with food on the

9:01

ground. At the house. Oh my God, that's so nice.

9:03

It was real quick. As long as there's running water

9:05

in the house, like they're fine. They're fine. They

9:08

can talk, you know, they can figure stuff

9:10

out. Right. But that was.

9:12

The air conditioning's on, probably. Probably, yeah. I mean, we leave

9:14

it, you know, not too cool. I don't want to waste

9:16

energy, but. Oh. Is

9:19

that the first vacation like for you and the wife to get

9:22

away for a little bit? We did, we took that. Because she's

9:24

on the road too. Like, that's gotta be hard. Yeah,

9:26

it's very tough. It's very tough. And

9:29

we've signed up for a lot. But this

9:32

is a really busy month and then taking

9:35

a good amount of time down over summer.

9:38

Oh good. Is that when you're gonna be doing

9:40

the writing for? So the writing starts in like

9:42

a week or so. And then we

9:44

have a break. So we have, I'm gonna. And Netflix

9:46

now with the new WJ contract, I think they give

9:48

you at least three days to write. How many episodes?

9:50

Six. So yeah, they give you three days. Oh cool. You

9:53

get a half a day now. Yeah. For each

9:55

episode. Well, AI's doing a lot of the.

9:57

Heavy lifting. We

10:02

were in Rome, but

10:04

we're going back to Northern Italy

10:07

for some of the summer. And

10:09

then we'll spend some of the summer in LA

10:11

too. And this time when you

10:13

go back to Italy, will you bring the voice? How

10:17

old are they? Five

10:19

and eight. That's it. But

10:22

five and eight is perfect, man, because they will

10:24

actually remember this. This is

10:26

something that they will clock.

10:29

And the magic of that is going to be... And

10:31

five and eight are such good. It's fun. They're

10:34

really fun dudes. My

10:38

five-year-old is so reactive. He

10:41

hits the table at the fucking table. Whoa,

10:45

he goes fucking table? Yeah, he does. And

10:47

whenever I'm like, hey, where do you think

10:49

he gets that from? Disney. Those

10:51

are Disney shows. He is you. No. She's

10:55

like, you have explosive reactions to things. And I'm like,

10:57

yeah, OK. But oh,

11:00

no. Yeah. The other day he

11:02

goes like that. And I was like, what?

11:04

He goes, you're a shithead. I

11:14

go, what? He goes, my brother's a moron. Mom's

11:17

a shitbag and I'm an asshole. And

11:20

I go, what? And then he

11:22

started to repeat it. He goes, shithead, moron,

11:24

shitbag, asshole. I'm like, bro.

11:26

And he was just like he was in like he

11:28

just stumbled on a discovery. You know,

11:31

it was like what I like about that

11:33

is it did seem like an epiphany. Yeah.

11:35

Like prior to that, he might have thought

11:37

dad's a scholar. My

11:40

brother is a compassionate

11:42

and interesting playmate and

11:45

mom is a saint. But no, wait, wait,

11:47

no, wait. Hold on. I've got something here.

11:50

Shithead. Moron. And

11:53

he really, he really reacts to like that's

11:55

a mantra though. Is that now is he

11:57

keeping on that? Is that he's saying he's

11:59

he didn't. it wrong once after you said

12:01

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12:03

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he's the one who like the eight-year-old, you know,

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you cuz you have kids you're like One

16:13

of them will be like so like he's

16:15

so polite. He's really actually listens if I

16:17

go that's enough You know, you got to

16:19

get in bed. He really is like, okay.

16:21

Yeah, and he gets him and the five-year-old

16:23

He's just he just resists so

16:25

hard and I was like telling I was

16:27

like get in bed Get in bed get and

16:29

it was just repeat repeat repeat and I was like,

16:31

you know what tomorrow Y'all

16:34

can have any treats. Y'all can be able to watch it and

16:36

he goes you fuck

16:42

And I start to like he goes and then

16:44

I've never heard this combination of words he goes

16:46

you nervous bitch And

16:51

I had to grab my mouth, you know I Like

16:56

I've never anybody call somebody

16:58

a bitch But

17:00

it made me laugh and I just was

17:02

like get in bed now and I couldn't

17:04

how do you and you can't point out

17:06

Too funny and I hear him in his

17:08

face like nervous bitch When are you going

17:11

to be called into school for that meeting

17:13

with the teacher where she says to you?

17:16

Your son called me a nervous And

17:18

and where did he get that and you

17:20

have to go I don't know I'm just

17:22

a shithead I'm just I'm telling and she

17:24

is a fucking shit fucking shit bag And

17:27

I know you're not gonna ask my brother

17:29

that is a moron. He's just a little

17:31

asshole. Exactly What's amazing to me is I've

17:33

gone in I was like how's his language

17:35

with like how's cursing and they're like, excuse

17:38

me They're like he's the

17:40

most well-behaved Which is actually a

17:42

good sign because it it tells you that

17:44

your kid knows that in a certain Setting

17:47

they have to behave a certain way. So

17:49

he feels comfortable enough to call me a

17:51

fuck Yeah at home, but he knows that

17:54

in school or in public. He's like you

17:56

don't address other people. I'm sure knowing that Makes

17:59

you less of a nervous bit. Yeah, it does. More

18:02

confident bit. A more relaxed bitch

18:04

for sure. Yeah. They really

18:06

do. I always found with

18:08

the kids, some of

18:11

it is anxiety when they're not with

18:13

you. They

18:15

trust you completely. You'll

18:17

protect them. You're the guy, but

18:19

if not, they know that

18:22

person is generally the size of my father, maybe

18:24

a little smaller, maybe a little bigger, whatever. If

18:27

I ingratiate myself to that person,

18:30

I'm safe in this environment of hooligans

18:32

because I'm sure he's in with hooligans.

18:34

For sure. For sure. Yes.

18:37

And yeah, it's a whole different. When did he kick

18:39

in with the profanity? At

18:41

what age? Four. Really?

18:44

Yeah. And the funny thing was, as you

18:46

know more than I do, these things, if

18:49

you think your kid is this, you're

18:51

like, oh, I remember when he had

18:53

two, you're expecting terrible two. His

18:56

kid's just like a little angel. He

18:58

was just like, oh, hi. Just

19:01

a sweet kid. And then

19:03

when he was turning from three to four, he

19:06

just got all fired up, really

19:08

fired up about stuff. And we

19:10

were like, oh, this guy is not. And he started to get

19:12

a little more dramatic, a little more

19:15

performative with his feelings.

19:18

And then we're like, oh, okay. So it's always

19:20

evolved. He's trying shit out. He's trying shit out.

19:23

I wonder too if it's,

19:25

some of it can be if the older brother

19:28

is kind of like his

19:30

path to praise is this and maybe

19:32

your guy thinks like, I

19:35

don't think I'm going to be able to,

19:37

my brother was really smart.

19:39

Like was just known in school, like used

19:41

words I can remember being in like, I think

19:44

we're in a student council meeting and like I was in

19:46

fourth grade. He was in like sixth grade and he was

19:48

like, hypothetically in the whole class was like, what the fuck

19:50

just happened? What? Yeah. That

19:53

wasn't going to be. And I wonder if he's

19:55

thinking maybe that lane is taken, but you know,

19:57

it's not profane. Yeah,

20:00

that's I'm just gonna go out hard

20:02

riding. That's my lane because he knows it gets react

20:04

The kids are all about reaction and not yeah, and

20:07

he knows your comics He believes too that

20:09

his older brother has special powers because he's

20:11

convinced him So he'll be like he's like

20:13

if you don't give me this back Ellis

20:16

will use powers on you and you're like

20:19

and you but you see that he's sincere, you know

20:21

I'm like they believe in magic.

20:24

They believe in although the eight-year-olds on that cusp

20:26

I know I do you do like when you're

20:28

doing holidays and shit. Do you still do like

20:30

the Like Tracy my

20:32

wife would love to do around Christmas like

20:35

there were reindeer tracks in the

20:37

house and like all that shit and they Whole

20:41

hog believe in for somebody who didn't grow up with

20:43

that. Yeah, I was like I get it Yeah, yeah,

20:45

you get it. This is cuz it's awesome. You see

20:47

the wonder. Yeah the Holy

20:50

shit, like when they see the milk

20:52

and cookies and like Santa, you

20:55

know, like yeah Yeah, and the elf

20:57

on the shelf. Yeah, he is at the age

20:59

though when he starts to like ask logistical questions,

21:01

you know He's like, well, how come if

21:03

the chimney had the fire and you're like, hey, how

21:05

about you stop asking some? Just

21:09

enjoy it, you know Yeah,

21:14

he's like doors locked I'm like, yeah, I know

21:16

he'd fucking like magic dude has a key to

21:18

the house What do you think? Yeah, it

21:20

is interesting because they're a Lot

21:23

of times their perceptions won't quite match

21:25

up with they're not like I can remember when

21:29

Maggie Understood

21:31

the mechanics of math but

21:34

not the context. Mm-hmm So

21:36

she would be like so

21:39

that means when I'm 60, you'll be 102 and I'll

21:41

be like, yep and Won't

21:44

we have fun? Yeah, you know

21:46

cuz they don't yeah. Yeah, they're not understanding

21:48

but they got the logistics down We just

21:50

had a death that starts to affect. I

21:53

remember too that used to be like, oh

21:55

when you're a kid You're like my parents

21:57

gonna die. Yeah, it's just happened where

21:59

you just had a of dead and they know it?

22:01

No, they had, it just occurred to him

22:04

like, because when you said that, I remembered

22:06

he, his mom, this is an eight year old

22:08

or five year old? Five year old. They were both in the same room, but

22:10

the five year old, his

22:12

mom left a sweater for him because she was

22:14

going to be gone. So he's like,

22:17

he put the sweater on. He's like, this is

22:19

mom's sweater. He's like, it's the only one in the

22:21

world. And he goes, he looks at me, he goes,

22:24

when she dies, it'll be mine. And I'm

22:26

like, I go, yeah. And

22:28

then he goes, that's not even grief. That's more like,

22:30

but then he goes, he goes,

22:33

I don't want mom to die. And I go,

22:35

oh, she's not gonna. And then he starts crying. He's

22:38

like, he's like, I don't want her to

22:40

die. And I go, buddy, it's a long

22:42

way off. Right. And then his brother's

22:44

like, mom is going to live

22:46

at least another probably 35 to 40 years.

22:48

And I was like, yeah, that's pretty accurate.

22:51

And then he goes, I just don't want

22:53

mom to die. And my older son goes,

22:55

I don't want mom or dad

22:57

to die. And then the

22:59

younger one goes, yeah, mom. I

23:03

was like, okay. Like he

23:05

clearly has his favorite here.

23:07

He just doesn't want mom

23:09

to die. That's cool. Do get like, you'll get one

23:12

of them. Like my son with me was like, one

23:15

day I will defeat you. Yeah.

23:17

Oh, really? You think you can mop the floor?

23:19

We used to go to jujitsu together. Yeah. And

23:21

I'd roll them around. And you know, and

23:23

all I was doing was old man weight. Like I

23:25

would just lay on him with old man weight. Just

23:27

hold on. He would just be like one day. I'm

23:29

gonna fuck you. And now he is like, he's like,

23:32

really? Yeah. You fucked me up easy. Yeah. Like I

23:34

think I lost arm wrestling. They were like 15. And

23:36

then it was over. Yeah.

23:38

And I kept telling him, I go, dude, it's

23:40

gonna happen. Yeah. Not gonna feel as good as

23:42

you think it's gonna feel. Because here's what's gonna

23:44

happen. You're gonna defeat me. And then you're gonna,

23:46

something's gonna, you're gonna have

23:48

a realization about the man, about

23:50

the arc. The cycle

23:52

of life and everything. That's exactly right.

23:55

But I like the idea though, that

23:57

he understood inheritance more than he understood.

24:00

Yeah, he understood that all

24:02

this one day will

24:04

be mine. Yes. Yeah, I will own

24:06

it I will own all this it's

24:08

aren't the conversations are fucking fantastic You

24:11

have that cuz they're like your kids are older.

24:13

Yeah, so they must they

24:15

must I mean they have a concept of obviously The

24:17

fact that their dad is successful Are

24:20

they like hey, this is gonna be pretty sweet. Like when do you

24:22

think you're gonna kick it? They

24:25

live more in it so they also have the

24:27

concept though that dad is controversial So

24:30

they also know like I'll

24:32

get oh, they're tearing you up

24:34

on such a right Yeah,

24:37

they they get that it's

24:39

a they've seen some really good things Yeah, and

24:41

they've also seen like me get the shit kicked

24:43

out of me. Like I remember when I did

24:45

I directed Irresistible

24:48

the movie and wrote it and

24:51

like it came out during the pandemic. So

24:53

we're all like Together

24:55

so everything we experience in that we

24:57

became like the Borg like just a

25:00

pod that moved around that house Sure,

25:02

and when it came out you

25:04

know we'd run the movie through previews and like

25:06

other shit and like everybody's feeling pretty good and then

25:09

it came out and like I Got

25:11

the shit kicked out of me Like some

25:13

of those reviews are like there were the

25:15

kind of reviews that like other Reviewers would

25:17

call that reviewer and be like dude that

25:19

was fucking amazing, you know, I'm like really

25:21

fucking You crushed that motherfucker like

25:23

that kind of stuff and My

25:26

family was there and like I could tell my kids

25:28

were like do we have to

25:30

move right? Like right and I kept telling

25:32

them like guys, this is just I'm

25:35

in a dumb business Like yeah, imagine at

25:37

school you make artwork right and then everybody

25:39

goes like that's really pretty So

25:42

imagine you live in a world where you make the artwork and

25:44

then everybody's allowed to go like that fucking sucks That's

25:46

a terrible. I don't want that in

25:48

my house. So that really must have changed Perspective

25:51

from them on how like how some

25:54

of this works like especially yeah because

25:56

you're well-known and controversial

25:58

or polarizing the polarizing. I'll go with

26:01

that. Do they get, they

26:04

must have an understanding of, you know how

26:06

people get so into comments,

26:08

right? Oh, look at how it's noise. Like

26:10

they, after a while, the first time you

26:13

read comments that are crazy, you go like,

26:15

oh my God, right? Like it affects you.

26:17

But they also probably are now having lived

26:19

with someone who has comments about them

26:21

kind of go like, oh yeah, this is just

26:23

kind of noise, right? Like they- I think their

26:25

brains are also, and I think you'll probably find

26:28

this with your kids, like for us, this

26:30

is a novel form of communication.

26:32

So our brains are dealing

26:35

with it as technology.

26:37

It's not native. Like

26:39

there's native functioning. It's sort of like when,

26:41

if you think about like your grandparents, when

26:43

they got on a plane, they were like,

26:45

I'm in a tube. Yeah. And

26:47

we're going, what? Yeah. Like to them,

26:50

it's a spaceship, right? Like we're going to

26:52

go on a plane today. Yeah. Doo doo

26:54

doo doo. Yeah. So I do think there's

26:56

probably something in their brain that

26:59

allows them to filter the

27:01

noise that you feel.

27:03

Like for me, it's

27:06

not, you know, we grew up in standup

27:08

clogs, like you'd perform and there'd

27:10

always be like a table or two that might've

27:12

thought you sucked and like you clocked them. Sure. But

27:15

then you left. Right. This

27:17

technology means like you ride home with them in

27:19

the cab and like the whole time they tell

27:21

you what was wrong with you and your act.

27:24

So I think for them,

27:28

as long as I model sort of

27:31

being fine, I think it

27:33

allows them to. So it's based a lot on

27:35

you then, right? Like. I would

27:37

think to some extent, don't you think your kids would,

27:39

they're pretty intuitive. Very. About

27:43

what you're really, what's truly urgent or

27:45

catastrophic and what's not. And what's going

27:47

on with you too. Yeah. They

27:50

pick up on you and your vibrations. And I

27:52

also try to explain to them, like

27:55

you're seeing a snapshot of

27:57

success that does in no.

28:00

way justice to the

28:02

shit I ate for many, many years that

28:05

you weren't a part of. Living

28:08

in conditions and doing things that

28:10

you would find unacceptable in the

28:12

world that you inhabit.

28:14

Yeah, that's funny. They don't get it.

28:17

They can't. No. So,

28:19

seeing me get the shit kicked out

28:21

of me a little bit, I think

28:24

is helpful. A,

28:26

because they see that it

28:30

doesn't deter moving

28:34

forward and making new things. And

28:36

I just try and explain to them, look man, I make

28:39

things. And once I make it,

28:41

it's kind of out of my control. And some

28:43

people think it's great, and you'll see that too.

28:46

And that's almost more uncomfortable. It's

28:48

more uncomfortable for me if someone comes up

28:50

and gives me the, I love

28:53

you, rather than the

28:56

comments of that sucked. Yeah.

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30:36

you ever, do people feel comfortable enough telling

30:38

you that? Do people ever ever. People feel

30:40

very comfortable with me. With you. Yeah. I

30:43

was going to say, cause you're generally with

30:45

the, also with the negative. Really?

30:47

Oh yeah. I'll get that even in front of my kids.

30:50

Hey man. I just want to let you know, like I

30:52

don't agree with anything that you say. Like I

30:55

think most of it is just fucking stupid, but

30:57

uh, I think you do

30:59

fit a 9 11. Guys. Yeah. That was real good. Really?

31:01

Oh yeah. I'll get, I'll get a lot of, a lot

31:03

of conversations cause I live in kind of MAGA country. My

31:06

wife and I usually play a game. We'll go like

31:08

to the, we'll be going to the store and we

31:10

play a Trump or insurrectionist. So

31:12

where we try and delineate. Yeah. That guy's going

31:14

to vote for Trump, but he's doing it for tax purposes. Oh

31:17

right. And then this guy, yeah, he's

31:19

wearing the horns and he's going in with

31:21

the chest painted. Sure. Um, but

31:25

so all their friends and a lot of

31:27

the friends, families are like very conservative. Sure.

31:30

So they got

31:32

very used to comments.

31:35

Like their, their friends and their friends parents will

31:38

say to them like, uh,

31:40

you know, you're not going to turn my kid into

31:42

that, right? Or like, you know, they'll talk a lot

31:44

of that stuff. It's a lot of fun. That's, that's, that's

31:47

really comfortable. And you have, yeah, it

31:49

sounds like you have to develop like a

31:52

giggle for it, right? Sure. Yeah.

31:54

Don't worry. Yep. I get a

31:57

lot of that. Like, Hey man, I just want to let you know,

31:59

like, really is almost like a preamble

32:01

to meeting me down there is always,

32:04

you and I don't agree on everything. You

32:06

and I don't agree on a lot, but

32:10

sometimes you make me think, or

32:12

something like that, or you and I don't

32:14

agree on everything, but I will let you shop here. Cool.

32:17

We will take your money. That's

32:19

funny that like, that actually feels, I

32:21

mean, it's hilarious that somebody does the preamble

32:24

to, but

32:26

also, there's at least a

32:28

dialogue, right? So many people don't engage

32:30

in civil dialogue. I feel like it's

32:32

somewhat civil, right? A little bit? I

32:37

wouldn't say it's dialogue. I think what

32:39

it is, is

32:42

they feel there's something inside them

32:45

that has to let me know. Yeah,

32:47

you gotta know. I don't think they're looking

32:49

to be like, here's

32:51

my feelings about the Second Amendment, where I feel

32:53

we differ, and where I feel we are

32:55

sometimes on the same page. I

32:58

think it's more that, I

33:00

think it's the same as, it's

33:02

a real bumper sticker area. Like

33:04

there's a lot of, like there's

33:07

a dude that has, I mean, it's gotta

33:09

be six foot by nine foot on his

33:11

front lawn with a giant thing that says, fuck

33:13

Joe Biden. Click on

33:15

his front lawn and let people know. Regular

33:19

neighborhood. I always thought you'd change those. I

33:21

was one of those, and when you see something like that, you

33:23

always think it's going to be like a different message every month.

33:26

Jesus loves, he's consistent.

33:31

But there's something about that, something

33:33

inside them that says, I

33:37

need everyone to know in

33:39

the clearest, most concise way possible, who

33:41

I am. And

33:45

it's like that bumper sticker. I

33:47

think they don't want me to

33:49

maybe misconstrue that he might be

33:51

liberal, or Democrat,

33:53

or progressive, or anything other

33:55

than, don't tread on me. I've

33:57

seen more signs like that.

34:00

that over the course of

34:02

the last few years, I'm saying nationwide where

34:04

somebody goes like here's who

34:06

I, you know, big proclamation.

34:09

I feel like that's not something

34:11

that we saw as much 25 years

34:13

ago in as many front lawns

34:15

where people would know. Because what are you going

34:17

to like in the Herbert Walker Bush. I'm

34:20

one of the thousand points of light. Like

34:23

now you'll see houses going at

34:25

each other. Like you

34:27

know, blue lives matter flag, MAGA don't

34:29

tread on me. Hate has

34:31

no home here. Stop Asian

34:33

hate. Yes. And they'll be next door to

34:36

each other and you just think this is like

34:38

these. I think they spend their days. But do

34:40

you feel like it's some of like kind of

34:42

like a boiling point? Like it's like things are

34:45

firing up more for people. I

34:49

think with almost everything it's

34:51

at a point. I do think that

34:54

social media is the kind

34:56

of accelerant and the

34:58

algorithm is a kind

35:01

of accelerant that radicalizes

35:04

populations in a way that we

35:06

haven't experienced in the way of

35:08

like so AI is

35:10

a radically new technology that's going

35:13

to change the way that we

35:15

live our lives and do all these things as

35:17

was the industrial revolution. But

35:19

the industrial revolution played

35:22

itself out over decades.

35:25

And so yeah, did we go from

35:27

horses to cars and then cars to

35:29

highways? But that plays out in

35:33

an analog kind of a way. You

35:36

can chart its course and its

35:38

growth. Digital

35:40

growth, that kind of geometric growth

35:44

is really hard for a population to

35:46

catch up to. And

35:48

I think any new technology like that creates

35:51

disruption. The

35:54

speed of it is

35:56

I think what's different and leads to

35:58

that. feeling of

36:02

explosiveness and disillusionment

36:05

and not quite understanding, you know, how many

36:07

times were we told, but they

36:09

say to people with globalization, like, it's

36:11

okay if your family have been coal miners for

36:13

three generations, you'll learn to program.

36:15

And you're like, I don't think I want,

36:17

I think I, like, I have a connection

36:19

to this. Sure.

36:22

That displacement is now happening.

36:25

Like I don't know if you know anybody who's like a grant writer, but

36:28

like you, you want to watch at GPT tomorrow

36:30

and make them obsolete. Like you could just type

36:32

in, you know, it's happening

36:34

so fast. It's so fucking fast. It's so fast.

36:37

And the other thing that is

36:39

like, I think so

36:41

unique in this time is that you

36:43

don't know what

36:46

you're getting from whom at

36:49

any time. So like, whether it's AI

36:51

or bots or, or

36:54

another country's, you know, program

36:56

that they design, like there's so much coming

36:58

at you that, I mean,

37:00

I think personally I went through just like a, a

37:03

fatigue and withdrawal, which I think is kind of normal

37:05

in a way. Do

37:08

you mean from like participating in

37:10

it or participating in like, and consuming

37:13

information? Like, you know, I always felt

37:15

like I grew up in a house

37:17

that was a evening news watching house.

37:20

There was always Time Magazine and Newsweek and,

37:22

and the Times were like part, like that

37:25

was just like normal. There's like a dentist

37:27

waiting room. Yeah, exactly. The highlights

37:29

in one corner and then the other thing.

37:31

And then you just go like, okay, I

37:33

have the information, but information is produced and

37:36

consumed differently now. And then you

37:38

go, and then every time you go, well, is

37:40

this the, the, the place to get

37:42

it from? Then they go,

37:44

well, you don't know, this is actually owned by

37:46

this corporation. And so this actually has an agenda.

37:49

So then you kind of feel like, well, I don't

37:51

know where to get information. And,

37:54

you know, I mean, it all can feel

37:56

overwhelming and where it's from and, and

37:59

always understand that there are

38:01

those whose job it is, is

38:04

to weaponize that confusion. Weaponize,

38:06

yeah. To weaponize that

38:08

delivery system. And again, it's not like

38:11

that's novel. I mean, yellow journalism, shit,

38:13

we got into the Spanish-American war based

38:15

on the Vietnam War and the Gulf

38:17

of Tonkin. And it's like, there's always

38:20

been that misinformation, but

38:22

it didn't travel at the

38:24

speed of light in the way that it

38:27

does now, where

38:29

we're so far behind, and

38:32

we don't have processes in place to

38:36

help establish certain

38:39

guardrails around it. Like Industrial Revolution

38:41

happened that everybody's like, six-year-olds in

38:43

factories, what could go wrong? Yeah.

38:47

And that evolved over time.

38:50

You had the great sort of muckraking

38:52

journalists like Upton Sinclair and Ida Wells and all

38:54

those people that uncovered

38:57

all of these abuses and all of these

38:59

things and helped kind

39:02

of resolve some

39:04

of the, like more devastating results

39:06

of it. But

39:12

I think now it's so fucking fast.

39:14

I mean, there's nothing better than watching

39:17

the Senate committee on AI

39:19

or any of those things. And you

39:21

get like Zuckerberg and-

39:26

Testifying there? Testifying and the guy from AI

39:28

and they're like, so let me get this

39:30

straight. So there's a tube and

39:32

then I speak into the tube and then the

39:34

tube turns it into zeros and ones. Is that what

39:36

I'm trying to understand? And they're

39:38

like, well, it's sort of like that. So where

39:40

did the zeros and ones go? Why do I

39:43

look at it? It turns into porn. What's happening

39:45

here? Like that's, it's just

39:47

fucking crazy. It's too crazy now, which is why

39:49

are you gonna run for president? Oh,

39:52

I wanted to announce. Okay. And

39:54

I really generally need two bears to make

39:56

an announcement. Yeah, I think it's, but I mean, this

39:58

is such a big one. How

40:00

often do you get asked for that?

40:03

I think anybody that is in the

40:05

space I'm in, I

40:09

always view it as none of the

40:11

above in

40:13

the way of it is a protest

40:16

for the status quo being

40:18

so unsatisfactory for

40:20

people. It's the kind of thing that, like

40:23

I remember this was 15 years ago,

40:26

somewhere along the line, 20 years ago there was a

40:28

poll done. Everybody made a big deal of it. Who

40:31

is the most trusted newsman

40:33

or newscaster in America? And

40:36

it was Tom Brokaw and

40:38

Peter Jennings and Brian Williams

40:41

and Diane Sawyer and

40:43

John Stewart. And John Stewart

40:45

won, running away. And

40:47

I kept trying to explain to people like, I

40:50

could have been dildo wrapped in gold

40:52

and that would have won because what

40:54

people are expressing in that poll is

40:58

I'm dissatisfied with the status quo

41:00

and the establishment delivery of this

41:02

service. They have lost my trust.

41:05

And so people

41:08

in my area, I'm sure

41:10

Marr gets it, Tucker Carlson gets it.

41:13

All the people in the space

41:15

of giving opinions about

41:17

the day's event. I mean, that's honestly,

41:19

how did Trump become president? I was

41:21

about to say, it's the same analysis,

41:23

right? Because everybody who goes, how

41:25

the fuck is this guy president?

41:28

Or how is he getting this support? What

41:31

most people you would hear there are like, he's not like

41:33

these other guys. He's

41:35

not from that political landscape

41:37

where they, and they say the right

41:39

thing. And like he was just this

41:42

wild guy who was saying

41:44

wild things. And then that was exciting

41:46

to people. It was exciting that somebody

41:48

was- And the wilder it would get.

41:50

Yeah. Everybody kept

41:52

saying, now that he

41:54

said that, it's certainly over.

41:57

And everybody's like, he's going up in the. He,

42:00

I think what ended up happening

42:02

there is it

42:04

was like an antibiotic resistant

42:06

strain of something. And

42:09

so people kept saying, well certainly if we

42:11

hit it with strep and if we hit

42:13

it with erythromycin and penicillin, it would have

42:15

to die. Sure. And then it was

42:17

just like, boop, boop, boop. Not even

42:19

close. It's too strong. Too strong. It's way too

42:22

strong. Just keeps going. And now, and I think

42:24

too, it's, you know, it

42:26

seems like everything is being done

42:29

to not have this guy, you know,

42:32

on ballots and.

42:34

Everything other than just

42:37

have a better idea. Just

42:39

fucking beat him. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

42:42

That is not being done. No. But

42:45

all these other things, and I feel

42:47

like if they succeed in getting

42:49

him convicted or off

42:51

pallets, I do think people are gonna lose

42:53

their. I don't

42:56

think they'll succeed getting him off ballots in any way.

42:58

I really don't. I think that chance, I

43:01

think if they had done, and

43:03

again, part of this

43:06

is his understanding of the system.

43:09

Part of his appeal was the system is rigged.

43:12

I think everything he's experienced through

43:14

here is an example of that. Just

43:17

not necessarily the way he, I think it's showing

43:19

if you've got money, doesn't matter

43:21

how many felony counts they throw out. Yeah. You

43:23

can hold that off till you

43:25

get granted complete immunity by becoming

43:27

president of the United States. But

43:31

the difference is somebody

43:34

can be right about a diagnosis and

43:36

wrong about the remedy. So

43:38

like he can diagnose the system as rigged.

43:40

And it obviously is. I mean, when they

43:43

talk about his real estate transactions

43:45

and they talk about, everybody

43:47

comes out and goes, that's just how things are done. Like

43:49

you go to the bank, you lie about what you have,

43:51

they give you more money than they should at a lower

43:53

rate. And then when you go there, you lie about that.

43:55

And then they give you, and you just go like, oh

43:58

really, that's how it is. And.

44:00

So. The. The

44:02

interesting thing is once that gets

44:05

exposed, A reformer comes

44:07

and says I'm in a straighten this

44:09

out. And. Make it

44:11

fairer again, because it's right.

44:14

Special. Interests. He

44:17

I either go to emotional a

44:19

time and there's more defense contractor

44:21

lobbyists. Then there are. People.

44:24

In Congress? Yeah, They're. Outnumbered.

44:27

Sir and they are wined and dined.

44:29

The Argus you know the greatest example

44:31

is like Wall Street. You.

44:34

Know people in yards the senators or

44:37

congressmen as was be progressive was three

44:39

gets away with a shit on because

44:41

they pay. All. Those

44:43

Legislators. This would be

44:45

the place. Where. Reform.

44:48

Would. Have a home New York City.

44:52

And they're all like why should smile Maybe

44:54

the tax should be twenty percent on capital

44:57

gain? I don't know. You know, maybe if

44:59

you have a hedge fund, it shouldn't get

45:01

taxed like Gregor, The money and. So.

45:04

You see how powerful like they don't have

45:06

fucking time. I remember when we went down

45:08

there for. The

45:10

first version of what was called the Pact Act

45:12

which was a toxic exposure act move for veterans.

45:15

So. We got together a bipartisan group

45:17

of congresspeople. We all sat around table.

45:20

And. Of their with regime we were

45:22

tourists were going to lay out like what they've

45:25

been to the last ten years, what was going

45:27

on his military bases, all the terrible health effects

45:29

of the different things with very similar to the

45:31

Nine eleven. We.

45:33

Lay it all out for a compelling, They're all on

45:35

board. And then

45:38

ago. But here's the thing. So

45:40

the so much going on down here, could

45:42

you guys? raided? The

45:46

legislation. Could you write? And

45:50

unlike. Ah,

45:53

i could write a ten minute bit about

45:55

the legislation but i don't know the first

45:57

thing about right a don't know the first

46:00

But in that moment, I thought, oh,

46:03

that's how this shit happens. So

46:06

imagine you're not trying to get healthcare

46:08

for veterans. You're trying to

46:10

get banking regulations eased so that you

46:12

can make derivative swaps on mortgages and

46:15

blow up the world financial system. And you go

46:17

in and you say, oh, this is this thing.

46:19

And it makes time. And they go, it's

46:21

so busy down here. Could you write it? If

46:24

I have to. Right. And

46:26

they write it. Wow. So

46:28

much of the legislation is

46:31

influenced and written by

46:34

the people it's supposedly reigning in.

46:37

And so there's

46:39

like a

46:42

wealth incumbency built into the system

46:44

or a legislative

46:47

incumbency for these larger industries

46:50

that weeds out

46:53

competition. It infuses

46:56

corruption and it's

46:58

really hard to stop. And

47:01

what Trump is saying is, yeah, that system

47:03

is rigged. But what he's not saying

47:05

is, and I'll reform it. What

47:07

he's saying is, so if you don't mind signing

47:10

that deed over to me, I'll

47:12

take care of it. Yeah. And

47:15

that's the part that is that you know,

47:17

he's, he's not interested in a fairer

47:19

system. He's interested in to the victor

47:21

go the spoils. Yeah. He's very

47:24

much, I think, and I think he's actually very

47:26

transparent about that. You know, like I think, I

47:28

think it doesn't

47:31

take a lot to pick that

47:33

up from him. You

47:35

know, yes. Somewhat through

47:37

happenstance, like he'll go down to the billionaires

47:39

at the Mar-a-Lago and be like, don't worry.

47:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

47:44

what you said, though, it's so disheartening to

47:47

hear about how the system works. How

47:50

do you keep from being like knowing so much,

47:54

seeing that firsthand and not being so

47:56

cynical and just disheartened by

47:59

everything? You know those,

48:01

they sell them now, it's like mushrooms and chocolate.

48:03

That helps. That helps a lot. A

48:06

little bit. You take just a little bit of that. Nutropic? I

48:08

think that's something along those lines. Sure. They

48:11

come up with the names like Fun Guys. Yeah, yeah. Like that

48:13

kind of thing. Yeah, but it is, right? I mean, it does

48:15

like, yeah, kind of take the wind out of your sails a

48:17

little. Absolutely. Those years

48:20

lobbying down there were

48:22

incredibly dispiriting. And I

48:24

was a drop-in. Yeah. Like

48:27

I came in to provide air support for people.

48:29

They were there every day.

48:31

Like I ended up feeling like my

48:33

role was to go down there and

48:37

almost like USO shows. They've

48:40

been in the trenches, so I'm gonna go down

48:43

there and be like, yeah, duh, duh, duh, duh,

48:45

duh, duh, duh. And kind

48:47

of fire them

48:49

up and think of ways around

48:52

this really stultifying

48:55

status quo. Everybody

48:57

has establishment thinking. They

48:59

literally call the way bills are passed, regular

49:01

order. You have to go through regular order.

49:03

And you're like, but if we go through

49:05

regular order, all these people

49:07

are going to die. So

49:10

why don't we do not regular order?

49:13

Like when I ended

49:15

up testifying in front of Congress, the

49:17

whole, not the firefighters and the cops,

49:20

but all the congressional people were like,

49:22

just don't like, just

49:24

be cool. Like everything's going fine. Like don't

49:27

rock the boat. And

49:29

then the other guys would come up to me and be like, John,

49:32

you gotta fucking tell these people what's going

49:34

on. Cause John, it's

49:36

a fucking nightmare. So

49:39

I felt a responsibility to

49:41

them to not let them down in

49:43

front of, but

49:45

I think what happens is they get ensconced

49:48

in this really protected

49:51

system and

49:53

they lose sight of the

49:56

people that they're supposedly there to

49:58

kind of represent. that and

50:00

they're only responding to either

50:03

media prompts or

50:05

lobbyist prompts or

50:07

activist prompts like I'm talking about political

50:09

activists like right-wing, left-wing activists and those

50:11

are the only three groups that you

50:13

would imagine have influence. But

50:17

most people are fucking busy like think about

50:19

like for taxes, right? The Democrats always

50:21

say like we need to tax billionaires. Okay, but

50:24

what are you going to use it for? Well,

50:26

that's the big knock on

50:28

the Dems usually. It's just like just more

50:30

programs, right? But

50:32

what are those programs and who cares just

50:34

spend? Right. I mean, that's kind

50:37

of the thing that I always

50:39

felt they needed to do was tie

50:41

spending to value.

50:44

Like if you talk to people and you

50:47

want to know what would help because

50:50

most people at I think in

50:52

the general area

50:55

of like what you would consider middle class, maybe a little lower

50:57

than middle class, a little above middle class are

50:59

stuck in this weird trap, which

51:01

is I work till

51:04

I'm fucking 40 or 50 till

51:06

my kids are going to college. Now

51:09

I'm paying for their college, but

51:11

just at that moment, my fucking

51:13

parents are getting sick

51:16

and all of a sudden now I'm paying

51:18

for them while I'm trying to

51:20

pay. So now I'm in debt on

51:23

the college for the kids while also maybe going

51:25

into a little bit of a debt for

51:28

the parent. So now everything that you

51:30

built up all that equity, right?

51:32

Over those 20 years of work is

51:35

gone. Yeah. And what

51:37

you really could have used was education

51:40

that didn't cost so much, maybe some

51:42

fucking childcare, maybe some fucking elder care,

51:45

something that connects to your life.

51:48

And it feels like we live

51:50

in a place where that seems like it

51:53

should be possible to

51:55

do. No reason why not. It

51:57

makes no sense. But you'd have to

51:59

take care. from some other program, right?

52:01

Like that's the whole thing is no. I don't

52:03

know if it's a question of not having resources

52:05

as much as it is not directing them in the

52:07

right way. So I think

52:09

some of it is like, even if you look at food

52:11

stamps, right? So food stamps

52:14

ostensibly is like a pretty good program. Like

52:16

people, first of all, there shouldn't be food

52:18

insecurity in a country as rich as this.

52:20

Right. That's just ridiculous. But

52:24

the really strange part of it to

52:27

me is food

52:29

subsidies, food stamps

52:31

are really a subsidy to

52:33

like Kraft or

52:35

Nabisco or the giant food conglomerates

52:39

because the majority of

52:41

the foods that people are buying are

52:43

these ultra processed, shitty box

52:45

foods. That's where the stamps are going.

52:47

Right. They're going to

52:50

sodas and shitty foods that go right

52:52

into PepsiCo. Like we

52:55

don't do anything that doesn't have a

52:57

middleman with a corporate owner

53:01

to it. So all that

53:03

government money goes, it's really

53:05

their subsidies. Like why is there corn

53:07

syrup and everything? Yeah. It's

53:09

a fucking government just paying farmers for, and

53:13

then they're just giving the corn syrup and

53:15

fruit toast to like, and

53:17

so what do they do? They give us all

53:20

fucking diabetes. Yeah. And

53:22

then what's the next step? Yeah. Big

53:24

Pharma comes in. We got your back. And

53:27

now you're in the cycle. Yeah. They're

53:29

literally combating the drug of ultra processed

53:31

food with the drugs from Big Pharma.

53:34

This is the trap that so many

53:36

people get locked into. Yeah. Yeah.

53:39

And what are we getting for it? All that money that

53:41

we go in, and we have the highest drug prices in

53:43

the world. So

53:48

that's when people go like, yeah, this

53:50

system is rigged, but

53:53

you can't change it because

53:55

that's socialism. Right. If

53:58

you do it any other way, no, you have. You have to

54:00

let, even Obamacare, the

54:03

fucking, that the right complaints about, is

54:06

basically a giveaway to insurance companies. What

54:09

the government is saying is, how about we just give you a

54:11

shit ton of money? And

54:14

with that shit ton of money, you'll cover people

54:16

that maybe you wouldn't normally cover, and you can

54:18

still give them a $5,000 deductible. And

54:21

they can still go to hospitals where you don't even know where

54:24

the charges are coming from. And

54:26

even that. Yeah. Are

54:29

we really suggesting, like, I'm

54:32

not saying you don't want to have like

54:34

private corporations and private property and innovation and

54:36

all those different things, but

54:39

do we have to subsidize it? But

54:41

do you think anybody will ever

54:43

actually step in and really

54:46

disrupt this cycle? Look what Cuban did.

54:49

With the pharmaceutical company? Yeah,

54:51

that was amazing. That

54:53

company- That can be done everywhere. Yeah.

54:57

Yeah, for people that don't know, Mark

54:59

Cuban started this pharmaceutical

55:02

company that he

55:05

found out which meds there

55:07

were accessible to

55:10

kind of to buy and do like a kind

55:12

of a minimal marginal markup

55:14

on. And then-

55:17

And which ones were crazy marked up

55:19

and which ones were being artificially withheld

55:21

and all kinds of- It's basically fair

55:24

priced drugs essentially. Which

55:26

is a- They

55:28

put old people on buses

55:30

to Mexico. Yeah. To jet,

55:32

like insulin. It's crazy. Right.

55:35

It's crazy. But when you get down there, you

55:37

go, oh, I know how this happened. Because

55:40

they have access to

55:42

the people who write the laws.

55:44

The laws don't need to be

55:46

a thousand pages. The

55:49

complexity of our tax code wasn't

55:52

put there by poor people. The

55:54

complexity of our legislation wasn't

55:57

put there by poor people. It's put

55:59

there by the law. obvious in the industries that

56:01

are carving out loopholes

56:03

and safe spaces and extra ways they

56:06

can make money to keep it coming

56:08

in. Yeah, it's it's cartel shit really

56:10

cartels shit. Yeah. Yeah. I

56:13

think the only solution for all this is probably the rock

56:15

maybe being running for president. There's very little

56:17

so once the

56:20

rock teamed up with Roman Reigns. Yeah. That's

56:22

when I realized like, Oh, he can't be stopped. No,

56:24

like when they were rivals. That's a

56:27

totally different time. No, you've had a you've

56:29

stepped in the ring before. Sure. Sure.

56:32

I have. Did you did you see that tape? Yeah,

56:34

it's brutal. Really? The things you'll

56:36

do now your kids, the eight

56:38

year old, is he into that yet? No,

56:41

he's really into a Minecraft,

56:44

the game and roblox. The thing that you

56:47

will do, which was funny is that so

56:49

I found out, man, I had like a

56:52

week and not even I was

56:54

on the road. They had their spring. Two weeks

56:56

spring break. Yeah. You guys get

56:59

two weeks. I don't remember getting two weeks. Not at

57:01

that age. No. And so on I had this

57:03

crazy idea. I was like, what if I they're filming

57:05

the Minecraft movie in New

57:07

Zealand? And I was

57:09

like, Oh my God. I

57:12

hit up Jason

57:15

Momoa who's in the movie. No.

57:18

He's like, Come on down. So I flew

57:20

him there and I take my eight year

57:22

old to New Zealand. And

57:24

I'm like, we're going

57:27

to see the Minecraft set. He's like, Oh, cool,

57:29

cool. And then he walks on. He's like, Holy

57:31

shit. This is what I'm like, right? And

57:33

then he's like, all right. What do you

57:36

want to do now? Like, this is it, dude.

57:38

And then what do you want to do? Yeah.

57:44

I'm like, this is all this is. No, no, no. We're

57:47

here. New Zealand. 16

57:49

hours. Right. Right. He

57:53

was like, oh, this dog's fucking awesome.

57:56

He Played with the dog. You

58:00

can take it into the As Pfcs and then

58:02

the next sales legs are second day here will

58:04

you unreasonably with a dog again. A

58:07

plan to the odds are as well. Thanks

58:09

for having us. That

58:11

flew back some of the really the Micah

58:13

as a look. cool. Love. That

58:15

dog. As a dogs the shit. Yeah, great. And.

58:18

It's and it's only. Boys.

58:21

And started that's I know as a grad

58:23

yes you're like on your third date where

58:25

you're like and then we salute of diarrhea

58:27

exactly when I align your like are you

58:30

so superman? You're never gonna Now I know

58:32

it and I you know I realize it's

58:34

like a lot of i think in terms

58:36

of gifts a lot alike Gift Yeah that's

58:38

nice. You know it's like when am I

58:41

guess my love language ah but I I

58:43

do the real thing You realize when you're

58:45

into these is in the type a gift

58:47

giving the the gift is for you. it's

58:50

you going. You'd give it to

58:52

somebody. Yeah, it's your excitement of blades.

58:54

yeah, feels great, feels good, and when

58:56

you mail it, yet when you ala

58:58

useless. but I'm yeah, he was just

59:01

like Eos. that's it and it's is

59:03

gonna and. What's. So

59:05

interesting is. The. Joy

59:07

you feel being able to like.

59:09

I made the mistake of whatever

59:11

show my kids were into. I.

59:14

Would try and get on it for seen

59:16

A Just did it with is a cake

59:18

the Netflix searches do that sees his agenda.

59:20

Kids like edges are they do. They still

59:22

like it as a May Maybe you know

59:24

they were into the episode they watched in

59:27

an ear for the i didn't figure and

59:29

production time yeah season. All the things your

59:31

kids loved. It was a thing called. Jax.

59:34

Big Music suffers. I did. I did.

59:36

Jax is called Jax Big Music Shows is

59:38

great! It was like this

59:40

super odd. Little. Puppet music

59:43

show them and the kids.

59:45

Loved. It and I lot like. Once.

59:48

They move on from like Little Bear

59:50

and tie you an odd shit into

59:52

like Sponge Bob and good stuff. Yeah

59:54

when you like it's awesome. Yeah so

59:57

they do this. Eye contact. The

59:59

show I fly. The out to Chicago

1:00:01

the tape and started and nicest people

1:00:03

you'd ever want to me and super

1:00:05

talented and very musical. Nick got all

1:00:08

these puppies and do think so. I

1:00:10

did the Ground Hogs Day episode I'm

1:00:12

Bronx Daniel Gruber, the weatherman of The

1:00:15

Thing. We tape it

1:00:17

or leave after edited and you

1:00:19

know do something. A hollow rector

1:00:21

it out and take and by

1:00:24

the time it comes out. The.

1:00:28

Likes of I was assuming you were on

1:00:30

the Wizards of Waverly Place. Yeah yeah, that's

1:00:32

an area so then I shall it them

1:00:34

know like. Ha! Ha!

1:00:39

I reminisce you like was a

1:00:41

dog I was like iso to

1:00:44

Chicago to to is a disease

1:00:46

and passengers. And

1:00:48

I was always like six months

1:00:50

to a year. Behind

1:00:52

on it the switching. Yeah, but

1:00:54

the W W E. Data.

1:00:58

Data. And Maggie was different. Like. She

1:01:01

didn't at by the interest she added. that

1:01:03

stuff is like horses yeah and I didn't

1:01:05

know what. like I couldn't be like. Let's

1:01:07

go to The Derby. Yikes! I, you know,

1:01:10

My grandfather like died and an ot be so

1:01:12

I guess I could have gone mayor. You

1:01:15

know there a family history ah by both

1:01:18

your son you nailed it with though you

1:01:20

the we. He was so

1:01:22

like. We. Would go on vacation and

1:01:24

he would have a knapsack. Like.

1:01:27

That. He didn't. And then we

1:01:29

would get down we be like where your clothes he's like

1:01:31

on how many cause i'm like what's in your knapsack is

1:01:33

like. A action figures it be

1:01:35

just filled with Roman Reigns and Seth

1:01:38

Rollins and really are Yeah so when

1:01:40

you did it he he lost his

1:01:42

mind. That's. Awesome! See.

1:01:46

So. I've gone to a feud with

1:01:48

Seth Rollins. And so she

1:01:50

got really into that. And.

1:01:53

We. Did it saying at the

1:01:55

Prudential Center in Newark? Were. Seth.

1:01:58

rollins of these two little guys J and

1:02:00

J security and there are two

1:02:02

bar guys who wear these suits. So

1:02:04

I dressed Nate in a

1:02:06

ball cap and suit. He was going to be my

1:02:08

J and J security. When

1:02:10

I confronted Rollins in the ring, Nate

1:02:15

gets all dressed up, comes in the thing. Nate

1:02:18

has an undiagnosed health condition at the time

1:02:21

that we don't know what it is,

1:02:23

but he's been having these episodes. We

1:02:26

get to the arena. He

1:02:29

becomes violently

1:02:31

ill. So

1:02:33

I'm in the dressing room,

1:02:35

getting ready to go out. And

1:02:38

like, I have to fake kick Seth Rollins in

1:02:40

the balls. And we got

1:02:42

a whole thing planned out with Nate and

1:02:44

the other security. He's like eight, you

1:02:47

know, I mean, you know, that's

1:02:49

the magical. And

1:02:52

he can't go.

1:02:55

No, he's vomiting.

1:02:57

Like can't move. He's

1:02:59

just lying there. And I'm just sitting there like, well,

1:03:02

I don't want to do it. I

1:03:04

want to do it with you. Yeah.

1:03:07

And so I go

1:03:09

out and I do it and I come back and he's,

1:03:13

it was a night in an arena, Prudential

1:03:17

center of WWE

1:03:19

wrestling, right? Violent, physical.

1:03:22

The only person taken out that

1:03:24

night in a wheelchair was

1:03:26

Nate. He

1:03:28

was so like sick.

1:03:31

He was sick for years. Really? Yeah.

1:03:33

Until we, until we figured it out. But

1:03:36

yeah, it's, it's terrifying. And

1:03:38

did he still look back on that night

1:03:41

as that was,

1:03:43

was he excited that night? Just through

1:03:45

his illness. He's still pissed off about

1:03:47

being sick. Yeah. He's like, I could

1:03:49

have been in the ring. She could

1:03:51

have done. And then it, it, it,

1:03:54

it ended up folding into SummerSlam

1:03:58

in Brooklyn. and Cena,

1:04:01

John Cena was fighting Seth Rollins that night.

1:04:04

And they put on a spectacular

1:04:07

match. I mean,

1:04:09

incredible show. The

1:04:12

athleticism, the drama, the

1:04:14

kickouts, it is one of

1:04:16

those championship

1:04:19

bouts that people talk about.

1:04:21

They start chanting, this is

1:04:23

awesome. And the crowd is- Wow. And

1:04:26

at the end of it, little

1:04:30

Johnny Dipshit runs out,

1:04:34

busts into the match, hits Cena

1:04:36

with a chair, Rollins

1:04:38

pins him. When

1:04:41

I tell you people were

1:04:43

furious at me, really, they're

1:04:46

watching this incredible match. And then some

1:04:48

guys, fucking old dude, like nobody knows,

1:04:50

runs into the ring and hits somebody

1:04:52

with a chair. And people's kids were

1:04:55

calling me and leaving obscene messages. I'm

1:04:57

like, really? So angry.

1:04:59

So that following is really intense,

1:05:01

man. So I had to go back the next

1:05:03

night for Raw. And Cena was

1:05:05

going to confront me in the ring with Ric Flair. And

1:05:09

so they say he's going to hit you with the attitude adjustment,

1:05:11

which is, I don't know if you know the move, but he

1:05:13

puts you over his head, and then he flips you. I'm

1:05:18

56, 57 years old. And

1:05:25

you're like, oh, I am going to get my attitude adjusted by

1:05:27

this. So we

1:05:30

don't rehearse. No. There's

1:05:32

no like, you walk

1:05:34

out into the ring, and they point. And they go

1:05:36

like, yeah, he's going to, this is the ring. That's

1:05:38

where your attitude is going to change right there. OK.

1:05:40

Yeah. So the

1:05:43

show starts. I'm sitting in the back.

1:05:45

They're all going through the thing. They're getting ready. The

1:05:48

WWE doctor comes into my dressing room. He

1:05:51

goes, hey, I just wanted to check in real quick. This is the

1:05:53

doctor. He's going to check you out. So

1:05:55

I assume it's going to be a, you

1:05:58

know, have you broken any pucks? Yeah, he takes

1:06:01

my blood pressure goes a little high See

1:06:06

on the other side And I was like

1:06:09

wait, that's not That's

1:06:11

that's not a that wasn't a doctor. That's yeah, that'd be

1:06:13

like somebody coming in and go like hello How are you?

1:06:15

Let me take your pulse. It sounds good. I'll talk to

1:06:17

you later. Yeah So we

1:06:19

go out there Just

1:06:22

right before I go out there Cena goes just

1:06:24

tuck your chin. I'll do the rest Okay

1:06:28

Down the ring I'm explaining to

1:06:30

him my reasoning for why I denied him the

1:06:32

championship. I wanted to protect Rick flares legacy We

1:06:34

go through the whole thing He

1:06:36

goes well you had your reasons now. I have

1:06:39

my takes off that person lifts me up on

1:06:41

his shoulders And

1:06:44

he's like six five he's a monster big dude

1:06:47

and That floor

1:06:51

is a floor. Yeah, it's not a

1:06:53

mat. No, it's a floor and

1:06:56

I hit it and I

1:06:59

didn't it was like the light switch from

1:07:01

the top of my head down to my

1:07:03

feet just went like like

1:07:08

Like a like a lightning shot And

1:07:10

I'm lying on the ground and they said it's like, you

1:07:13

know, just act like you're out of it And

1:07:15

I was like I'm out of it And

1:07:18

the one thing I learned about it is if you

1:07:20

are gonna get the attitude adjustment in the ring Fucking

1:07:24

tuck in your shirt. Oh,

1:07:27

yeah. I'm lying, you know, this is these

1:07:29

guys are like Olympians Yeah, and I'm just

1:07:31

lying there with like 20

1:07:34

years of Bopka and just sitting in my

1:07:36

stomach thing and just lying there trying to

1:07:38

pull my shirt down and get and I'm

1:07:41

Utterly Disoriented.

1:07:44

Yeah, it worked it It

1:07:47

and then I got I'm done and like

1:07:49

there's my boy He's waiting I come back

1:07:51

into the they call it the gorilla area

1:07:53

That's where all the wrestlers stage and

1:07:56

they're all standing there like you did it kid.

1:07:58

It's like that scene in Goodfellas Yeah You

1:08:00

got pinched, but you did it right. Yeah. Yeah. So

1:08:02

they're all, you know, big show is there and they're

1:08:04

all clapping and a triple

1:08:06

H and yeah, good man. Good man. I'm

1:08:08

just like, thanks. And

1:08:11

my son's just sitting there and he's like, did

1:08:13

that hurt? Like she was literally like, I

1:08:15

think you might be dead. Yeah. And

1:08:18

that doctor's like, Hey, your blood pressure's up. Yeah.

1:08:20

Yeah. No, by the way, no,

1:08:22

didn't hear from the doctor. I'm pretty sure he

1:08:24

wasn't a doctor, but didn't hear from anybody after

1:08:27

that until like, so then they do the

1:08:29

final shot. It's just me sitting on the

1:08:31

steps with my son next to me with

1:08:33

ice on the back. That's the final shot.

1:08:37

Dude, I just did a trampoline for

1:08:39

a photo shoot for Netflix.

1:08:42

And I was like, Hey,

1:08:44

uh, like falling onto the

1:08:46

pad sucked. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:08:48

hurt. The idea that

1:08:50

those guys, and people are so like wrestling

1:08:52

is big. And you're like, you don't, they're,

1:08:54

I don't know of an entertainer or any

1:08:57

entertainers. Who work harder and

1:09:00

put on more of a show than wrestlers.

1:09:02

When I did, um, I told you that

1:09:04

I went to the undertaker's house. Yeah. And

1:09:07

that was to check out the gym equipment. That was to

1:09:09

check out the gym equipment. Yeah. Yeah. He was just like,

1:09:11

yeah, come to Mark's house. Mark. Um, that

1:09:14

he's just lying there and then walk in. He goes, he

1:09:17

was, I mean, talk about like, he's a big

1:09:19

dude, such a nice guy, such a sweetheart. He

1:09:22

was like, it's an absolute pleasure to have you here today. And I was

1:09:24

like, Oh, but we were talking

1:09:26

about, cause he was, we

1:09:28

were talking about comedy, you know, how it starts.

1:09:31

He was like, you know, what's it like? Like

1:09:33

the early days. And I was telling him about,

1:09:35

you know, shit club weeks and everything. He was

1:09:37

like, yeah. I said, you know, one of the

1:09:39

things that sucks as you get older is when

1:09:41

you do doubles, you know, like two shows a night. I was

1:09:43

like, man, it just fucking starts to wear you out. And

1:09:46

he was like, yeah, he's like, yeah,

1:09:48

I bet. I was thrown off a

1:09:51

cage. He was saying that they used

1:09:53

to do doubles in

1:09:55

his early days. Oh, wow. For the

1:09:57

full, like the show. So like,

1:09:59

they, They do the full wrestling

1:10:01

show, bang, fucking throw all this

1:10:04

shit, clean up, do

1:10:06

it again. Wow. And he goes, so when I got a

1:10:08

little bit of juice, like when I had like, like just

1:10:10

when it was starting, I just told

1:10:12

him, he's like, no more doubles for me. Just

1:10:15

one and nine. But like, that's crazy that they would

1:10:17

be like Thursday in the town,

1:10:19

two shows, drive to another town, two

1:10:21

shows. I mean, physically, I can't imagine

1:10:24

what that would do to you. And now those dudes are masters

1:10:26

and they jump on a bus and then go to the next

1:10:28

place. But they were the

1:10:31

nicest people. I bet. Like

1:10:34

you'd meet like Undertaker when we met him and he

1:10:36

was just couldn't have been the nicer guy, couldn't

1:10:39

have been nicer to my son. All

1:10:41

of them. Like, do

1:10:43

you want to take a picture? They

1:10:45

would talk to him. They would ask

1:10:47

him questions. They would do the poses.

1:10:49

They would, I mean, they were the

1:10:51

nicest, most genuine. There

1:10:54

was this guy's sad because he

1:10:56

has since passed away. But this

1:10:58

dude, Bray Wyatt, whose stick was

1:11:00

kind of like, it was almost

1:11:02

like this supernatural stick. Like

1:11:04

they did the thing where like all the lights go out in

1:11:07

the arena and then all of a sudden

1:11:09

his video would pop up like in, you

1:11:11

know, ghoulish there. They had really long black

1:11:14

hair and his move was the sister.

1:11:17

Oh shit, I'm going to

1:11:19

mess it up. Sister Abilene or something. He

1:11:23

would go upside down and walk like a

1:11:25

spider, like a madman

1:11:28

in the ring, talking

1:11:30

to him back to the

1:11:33

kindest, like

1:11:35

the sweetest, nicest man and

1:11:38

spent a ton of time like hanging

1:11:40

out in the dressing room and talking

1:11:42

to Nate. They were lovely people. That's

1:11:44

so cool. Yeah. It's nice to

1:11:46

hear stories like that. Yeah. Especially from

1:11:49

like big alpha male dudes being like that

1:11:52

nice. There was always a couple that

1:11:54

like, you know, side eye, but almost

1:11:57

to a person, they

1:11:59

were. and they seemed like,

1:12:01

it really seemed like the closest thing to

1:12:03

a traveling carnival. There

1:12:05

was a certain camaraderie

1:12:08

there, they definitely are outside of the

1:12:10

system to some extent. But

1:12:14

they're lovely dudes. That's awesome, man.

1:12:16

Yeah. What do you think your

1:12:18

sons are going to get into?

1:12:20

Is it going to be football,

1:12:22

basketball, baseball? I had that thing

1:12:24

where I thought having boys, that

1:12:26

they, I watched football with my dad. They'd be you.

1:12:29

Yeah. So I was like, football. And they actually come

1:12:31

in the room and go, Oh God,

1:12:34

please turn this off. I'm

1:12:36

like, so bummed out. What

1:12:39

are they into? So sports-wise, the only thing

1:12:41

they actually really enjoy is going to Jujitsu.

1:12:43

So they like that. Oh, okay. But they

1:12:45

are into like, just, you

1:12:47

know, we just started showing them some shit

1:12:49

we shouldn't probably like Ace Ventura and,

1:12:52

you know, like, like dumb and dumb. Like all these,

1:12:54

like... I thought you were going to be like, 50

1:12:56

shades of gray. Shoot

1:12:58

down, boys. They're into like, you know,

1:13:00

certain cartoons and they like, they, kids

1:13:03

have this capacity to

1:13:06

rewind a moment. Like, I

1:13:08

just keep watching it. And I'm like, we just saw

1:13:10

it 50 times. Have they, have they

1:13:12

hit Phineas and Ferb yet? Or are they still... Phineas

1:13:16

and Ferb is a great one. Is

1:13:18

it? Okay. And then they do, they

1:13:20

still, they do love Minecraft and Roblox.

1:13:22

Yeah. Right. They love those. And those

1:13:24

are like random video games. Yeah. Are

1:13:26

they into yet the, what

1:13:29

was the like, the first like, sort

1:13:31

of first person video games, was like Lego

1:13:33

Batman or Lego Star Wars? Yeah. Those are

1:13:36

good ones. Those are good ones, huh? Yeah.

1:13:38

Yeah. I'm scared to get, because I see

1:13:40

how much it sucks them in. Right. To

1:13:42

give them too much. Like we try to

1:13:45

go outside and do that. Oh, we also

1:13:47

just like, you know, books, a lot of

1:13:49

books. Yeah. We did a lot of books.

1:13:51

They're a big thing at night is tell

1:13:54

us a story. And then

1:13:56

I'm like... I'm kidding about the books. Oh yeah. No, no books. You

1:13:58

gave them Lego Batman. That was the end of it. Okay. Yeah,

1:14:00

no book. They don't hate. Did they really say tell

1:14:02

us a story? Yeah. And then they go, I always

1:14:04

have to go like, what kind of story? And they're

1:14:06

like, either one where you pooped or

1:14:09

like, where you got trouble doing

1:14:12

something. And I'm like, they

1:14:14

have to be fantastical or do you give them real stories?

1:14:16

I. So that's the thing is that one point I was

1:14:18

like, I don't have any more shit stories, man. And

1:14:21

then they go make one up. They tell me

1:14:23

to make one up. I

1:14:27

mean, what a joy for them. Both parents

1:14:29

are comedians, both parents. Yeah. And

1:14:32

they now does your wife, does she put in

1:14:34

like hard jokes or does she go? No, she

1:14:36

leaves most of it. She's there. They'll be like,

1:14:39

dad, take it. Take it away. They're

1:14:42

like, dad gets it because I just go like, and

1:14:44

then I farted. That's more your act. Yeah, yeah. It's

1:14:46

more like what I do. And man,

1:14:48

they're just like they'll even say like, if

1:14:51

we laugh, you win. And I'll

1:14:53

start telling the story. And they'll be like, Jesus, that

1:14:55

was good. You win. Like they just they they love

1:14:57

it. Think about that, though, dude. Like when you were

1:14:59

coming up and you were like,

1:15:01

like, did you ever imagine your

1:15:05

life would be this fucking

1:15:07

full? And like,

1:15:11

you know, comedy is sort of a singular pursuit

1:15:13

on the road. And it

1:15:16

is sometimes it's camaraderie, sometimes they're not. But like the

1:15:18

idea that you could do that, do what you love,

1:15:21

have a family. Yeah. Have those two

1:15:23

imps. Yeah. Begging

1:15:27

you to tell them shit stories. It's amazing. Right.

1:15:29

It's amazing. It's an incredible life. Yeah, it's

1:15:31

an incredible life. And I'm so glad that you

1:15:33

get to go now and like that

1:15:36

move probably to Austin really opened it up for

1:15:38

you, too. It's been great. It really has been.

1:15:40

It's been great for the family,

1:15:42

for the kids. You could tell they

1:15:44

actually thrive more there. You really can.

1:15:46

Right. The environment. I

1:15:49

don't know. I love living there. I feel like our

1:15:52

work is like, you know, planes and all these

1:15:54

like different things. Going back

1:15:56

home there is nice. Right. Very nice.

1:15:58

And it's become like. Like

1:16:00

isn't Rogan's Club there now? It's

1:16:02

hot. Yeah. So he's got

1:16:04

his club. There's probably a other. They're speaking the

1:16:06

cave. They opened one there. You know, they started

1:16:08

here and they have one there. There's

1:16:12

a sunset room, I think that... And

1:16:14

there's enough people to like sustain it. Yeah.

1:16:17

Then there's a cap city moved, but they

1:16:20

have a club open. Yeah. There's

1:16:22

a lot of stuff. There's a real scene in Austin.

1:16:24

Right. Yeah. That's

1:16:27

great. Yeah. And then you're back

1:16:29

to your daily show schedule. So I was thinking

1:16:31

of doing Mondays. That's

1:16:33

already done. Oh, then we're good. No

1:16:35

more. No, dude. No more.

1:16:38

Look at me. You think I can maintain this beautiful

1:16:41

physique and great supple skin

1:16:43

without doing too

1:16:45

many? No, it's what's nice

1:16:47

about it too. It's like it kind of, it

1:16:49

just sort of, it was

1:16:51

just like a reboot of the direction. They'd been going

1:16:53

for like two years. There was the writer strike. There

1:16:55

was a bunch of guests. So it was like, now

1:16:58

it's sort of, I think the staff feels

1:17:00

like they just needed to recenter and

1:17:03

they got all these really talented correspondents and now

1:17:05

they're getting a chance to like... So they'll name,

1:17:07

is someone going to get named as the permanent?

1:17:09

I mean, I think ultimately, but

1:17:12

in the moment now, it's just about

1:17:14

getting through this election year with the

1:17:17

kind of infrastructure that they have now. Were people, when

1:17:19

you're on your first day back in the room, do

1:17:21

you have to like put people at ease? I imagine

1:17:23

they'd be like, oh shit, like how do I... I

1:17:27

mean, that's always like, I'm that, I try to, I'm

1:17:30

that way anyway. Sure. Which

1:17:32

is strange because I am also very much an

1:17:34

introvert. So it doesn't

1:17:36

come naturally to me. And when I'm done doing

1:17:38

it, I'm exhausted. I bet. Like

1:17:41

there's some people that get energized by people. I'm not

1:17:43

like that. Yeah, I'm not like that at all. But

1:17:48

I was genuinely, it's

1:17:51

been nine years and

1:17:53

a pandemic. And like,

1:17:56

I'm pretty self isolating. So.

1:18:00

Coming. Out and been in a room with

1:18:02

a bunch of smart, funny people. Were.

1:18:04

You can just fuck around as exciting exciting

1:18:06

when you ever. as far as I as

1:18:09

is when we were doing those games. but

1:18:11

when you. Those. We're fun to by

1:18:13

the White House so glad to be able

1:18:15

to do that and I was at you

1:18:17

for no thank you so much that was

1:18:19

awesome on when. When. You

1:18:22

first step the way. And. The

1:18:24

show's going on and you have this. New.

1:18:27

I guess it was as I forget it

1:18:29

did you step way during the election cycle

1:18:31

or right after the ah right before the

1:18:33

election. I feel of yet off our last.

1:18:36

In. August. Be. A

1:18:39

might have been in August. The.

1:18:41

Year before year before, right? Yeah,

1:18:44

Did. When it when things were I to

1:18:46

ramp up would you like be like i

1:18:48

wish I was doing this or know you didn't

1:18:50

notice it? Now you're and I wouldn't miss

1:18:52

it. Like if someone said to me, would

1:18:54

you go back and host the show again

1:18:56

Yeah. I. Would not do that. Know.

1:18:59

Ah, I'm. By. It.

1:19:01

It's sort of like being in a pickle ball

1:19:03

league might it's I your somebody came back to

1:19:05

be like so would you want to get back

1:19:07

on energy bar play soccer again and I got

1:19:10

high size and they and now my to pick

1:19:12

a ball once a week. active odor that be

1:19:14

fun and be fun to hang out with people

1:19:16

for that week over lucky to have human knowledge

1:19:18

doing it as but I'm glad you're doing it

1:19:20

and I hope they rope you into some contract

1:19:22

you can't get out of. ah for a long

1:19:24

now. I'll we get to do more get out

1:19:26

I'll come back out and do and have some

1:19:28

fonts and hopefully. Bart.

1:19:31

Will be there. If if if

1:19:33

is health picks up. For not

1:19:35

dude I'm sad about as it is

1:19:37

is it out of his or his

1:19:39

okay market? Either test the I asked

1:19:41

at the best doctors get yeah I'm

1:19:43

asking the yes elicits more gigs. Debbie

1:19:45

Wasserman get that. Thank you for coming

1:19:48

here. This. Is actually live in

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the buildings he lived here are Yeah, it's

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really nice. Yeah, thank you. thank

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you both thanks for watching as bite bird

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However, there are many questions

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about experienced