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Elliotte's Post Draft Ramblings

Released Sunday, 30th June 2024
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Elliotte's Post Draft Ramblings

Sunday, 30th June 2024
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8:00

I don't know that I ever thought

8:02

I would see the day where Steven

8:04

Stamkos would be an unrestricted free agent

8:06

and leave Tampa. But as

8:09

I've said before, the lightning

8:11

have in the past, they

8:13

have taken care of a lot of their guys

8:15

early. They haven't

8:17

done it with Stamkos twice now. And

8:20

even people as nice and polite as

8:22

Stamkos are, who are fierce competitors, they've

8:25

had enough. And that was the

8:27

case here. Now it's been reported

8:29

and I think Pierre Lebron was the first guy to

8:31

mention it that Tampa

8:34

did what they tried to do with Alex

8:37

Colorn. Alex Colorn a year

8:39

ago when he was a UFA, they

8:41

tried to make it an eight year offer at

8:43

like two, two and a half million so

8:46

they could keep the cap down and still get him

8:48

his money. That obviously

8:50

happened with Stamkos. It was around eight

8:52

times three. There were

8:54

some people who indicated they heard that

8:56

Tampa Bay also offered to do a

8:59

shorter term deal. Now,

9:01

Stamkos will be 35 next season and that

9:03

allows you to sign one year deals with bonuses.

9:09

And I think Tampa Bay

9:11

also propose something along those

9:13

lines, which is a shorter

9:15

term deal. And then we can

9:18

start giving you one year deals with some

9:20

bonuses and he kind of puns you down

9:22

the road a little bit on your cap.

9:24

But, um, it was something

9:26

that I heard was at least conceptually discussed.

9:29

Obviously it didn't work. And

9:32

the team that people are kind of talking

9:34

about for Stamkos is the predators. Now

9:38

I think there's a lot of interest, a

9:40

lot of interest. I think there's a lot

9:42

of teams out there that would love to

9:44

talk to Stamkos and see, um,

9:47

what he would be willing to do or willing to

9:49

consider or where to be willing to go. And

9:52

I'm not surprised. He's still a very,

9:54

very effective player, but a lot

9:56

of teams think that Nashville

9:58

is prepared to be pretty

10:00

aggressive for him. Other

10:03

things to keep an eye on. Matt

10:06

Duchaid, hearing is going to

10:08

stay in Dallas, don't know the terms by

10:11

getting that information in

10:14

multiple places that

10:16

Duchin is going to stay there.

10:19

Chris Tannav, at the end of the

10:21

draft he was traded from Dallas to

10:23

Toronto, the Stars really tried hard

10:25

to keep him. It is

10:27

expected the Maple Leafs are going to offer

10:29

him at least six years to

10:31

spread out the money over the term. Kind

10:34

of the thing that didn't work with Stamkos

10:36

and Tampa, looks like it's going to work

10:38

with Toronto and Tannav. That

10:41

is Toronto's tactic and it's expected to

10:43

be good enough to get it done.

10:45

I think Vancouver was also interested but

10:48

it looks to me that Tannav

10:51

is going to be the guy for

10:53

Toronto at a minimum six-year

10:56

deal. I think Toronto was

10:58

continuing to look at some other defencemen.

11:00

I think they're going to have competition

11:02

from Boston for Nikita

11:04

Zadorov and they're

11:06

also going on Oliver Ekman-Larson

11:10

but I think there's a couple of teams who are

11:12

looking at that too. If you

11:14

heard Jeff Jackson at the end of the

11:16

first round on our draft coverage, he said

11:18

they are trying to sign all

11:21

of their UFAs and they are working

11:23

at it. There were rumours

11:25

that they had asked Evander Keane

11:27

to waive his no-move clause but

11:29

as of Saturday that had not

11:31

occurred. So that's

11:34

another one to keep in mind. We'll see

11:36

if that becomes a thing at all but

11:39

as of Saturday it had not happened. Listen

11:43

to the 32000 podcast ad-free on Amazon Music included with Prime. Okay,

12:06

Truba, I am

12:08

going to admit this right

12:11

out. I am

12:13

not sure what

12:16

is going on here. I

12:20

had people saying to me it was very real.

12:23

The Rangers were trying to push it along and

12:25

they thought if they could work out something with

12:27

the Troia, Truba would be

12:29

willing to go there. And

12:32

then I had some people tell me on

12:35

Saturday that it's

12:38

not close. You guys

12:40

are getting way too ahead of

12:42

yourselves and this is

12:45

far, far more of

12:47

a challenge than you

12:49

think it's going to be. So

12:51

the one thing I am

12:54

reasonably certain of is

12:56

that this whole situation that's developed

12:58

over the last week or two

13:00

has been hard on Truba. Like

13:03

if you go back to when he left

13:05

Winnipeg and was traded from Winnipeg, both the

13:07

Jets and the player were ready for a

13:09

divorce. It was just time. It was

13:12

time for both to move on and they did.

13:15

In this particular case, the

13:17

Rangers may have decided for

13:20

cap reasons that they

13:22

have to do this, but

13:24

that doesn't mean that Truba

13:27

is ready for this. I

13:29

think he was disappointed. I think he

13:31

was shocked and I

13:33

think he's still processing this

13:36

possibility here. He

13:39

also is a very aggressive agent, Kurt

13:41

Overhart, who will fight

13:43

for his client in this one. And

13:46

while Overhart was not talking on

13:48

Saturday, what one

13:51

other agent told me was when

13:54

Truba submits

13:57

his list. Will

14:00

he make it strategic? As

14:03

in and his list is due on July 1st,

14:06

will he make it strategic so

14:09

that places that the Rangers might actually

14:11

be able to trade him to or

14:14

think they will be able to trade him to will

14:17

they be blocked? So

14:19

there's a lot here and

14:21

one of the things I think has really

14:23

made this challenging is that

14:26

Truba has struggled with the

14:28

idea that the Rangers might want

14:30

to move on for him. Just

14:32

one final thing to keep an eye on with

14:34

Truba though is remember what happened with Barkley Goodrow.

14:38

He wouldn't wave and

14:41

Chris Drury put him on waivers and

14:43

Goodrow got claimed by San Jose. Truba's

14:47

contract goes from a no move

14:49

clause to a modified no trade.

14:52

So will Drury consider

14:54

the same path? All

14:56

of that has to be determined in the next

14:58

few days. So that's the

15:00

best Intel I can give you. Sorry

15:04

if you don't think it's good enough. Neches.

15:09

I do think there were very serious

15:11

conversations between Columbus and Carolina about the

15:14

number four pick. I

15:16

do think that the Hurricanes made

15:18

Neches a contract offer with permission

15:21

of the Hurricanes. Obviously it didn't

15:24

get done. Columbus

15:26

was happy to keep the pick at Caden

15:28

Lindstrom. Very emotional moment with his

15:30

family with some great stuff. Chicago

15:32

as you know tried to

15:34

get into that number four overall spot offering

15:37

next year's unprotected first

15:39

plus the Blue Jackets

15:42

didn't do it. Billy also

15:44

tried to get into that spot couldn't do it.

15:47

That was about Demedov.

15:50

Everybody knew Montreal was going to take Demedov

15:52

fifth overall and if you wanted to

15:55

get him you had to beat the

15:57

Canadians at the top of the draft. And

16:00

those two teams tried, couldn't

16:03

get there. By the way, it's gonna be easy

16:05

to see what happens with Neches and Carolina now.

16:07

Like, is there any chance the

16:10

Hurricanes want them to stay because

16:12

they lost Gensil? That's one of the

16:14

questions I don't have an answer to,

16:16

but everybody's beginning to ask. Tije Ginla

16:18

was another guy, by the way, like

16:20

Demedov, teams wanted to trade

16:22

up to get. Utah got him sixth overall.

16:25

Everybody knows about Calgary. Also,

16:28

I think Ottawa would have liked the chance

16:30

to get him. They were picking one pick

16:33

right after. Yaroslav Iskarev, as we

16:35

know on Monday, Nashville

16:37

is going to extend UC Saros. Iskarev,

16:40

I think, is at

16:43

a point where he wants to play in the NHL. Nashville,

16:47

Barry Trotsky gave a pretty interesting

16:49

interview to Alex Daugherty, one

16:52

of the local reporters the other day, where

16:54

he said that, you

16:56

know, Iskarev will decide when he's ready

16:58

for the NHL, not anyone else.

17:01

I think that was kind of a

17:03

point also too, about any

17:06

agents or anything saying we'd like Iskarev in

17:08

the NHL next year. However,

17:12

I think the Predators also

17:14

recognize that they might

17:16

have to use him in a trade or

17:19

might have to move him in a trade. They've

17:22

gotten a lot of interest. There

17:24

is a lot of interest in him. As you

17:26

can imagine, he's a good prospect. I

17:29

talked with Barry Trots during

17:32

the first round of the draft. He

17:34

said they're looking for either an established

17:36

NHL player that makes sense

17:38

to acquire for Iskarev or

17:41

another high ceiling prospect that's not

17:43

a goalie, a forward or a

17:45

defenseman. That's what the Predators are

17:48

looking for. And also

17:50

Rucker McGroarty for the Jets fans out there.

17:53

There were a couple of cases where I think the

17:55

Jets maybe thought they were close. There

17:57

were some conversations with Montreal. I

18:00

think there was also the possibility he could

18:02

have headed to Minnesota, but that

18:04

was erased when Zev

18:07

Biowim fell to 12 and

18:09

Bill Garin said, nope, that's the player

18:11

we want and that evaporated a chance

18:14

for the Wild and the Jets to

18:16

do a trade. That's all I've

18:18

got for Saturday evening. I

18:21

hope this rambling was acceptable. I

18:24

feel bad for Dom Sirmati who's got to edit

18:26

it, but I thank him

18:28

for putting it together and as always, thank

18:31

you for listening. There will be another pod

18:33

sometime after free agency.

18:35

Have a great Canada Day weekend

18:37

everyone. Get outside, get some sun,

18:40

touch grass.

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