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thousand. If

3:16

she had gone mean few months

3:18

and I would call him back

3:20

and I always says jennifer can

3:22

recall material say not as apathy

3:25

is. Facing

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the cloud is the daughter of fraud and

3:30

in the club. She

3:32

was nineteen years old at the

3:34

time she disappeared. She was offered

3:36

a ride to work. She never

3:38

return. And that

3:40

was the night of August Twenty third, Two

3:42

thousand. First

3:45

we thought she was. A runaway.

3:47

It's a story that made sense, but

3:49

slowly over time we became convinced that

3:51

that was. I know.

3:54

Casey said I. feel

3:56

as it out Terry

4:02

Kimball was a recent divorcee who

4:04

came to the Denver area seeking work on a

4:06

ranch. Around

4:09

the 1st of August 2004, he disappeared. Was

4:13

there any point, Agent Guzing, that you

4:15

realized that these cases, all four of

4:17

them, were somehow connected? Yes.

4:23

We know about four victims. We

4:26

don't know if there are other victims, but serial

4:28

killers don't just kill four people and be done

4:30

with it. The

4:32

person that was causing this trouble, his

4:35

name was Hannibal. Chilling.

4:38

It's silence of the land. Was

4:42

he in your town in 2003? Was he in your town in 2004?

4:44

Or was he in your town in 1999? He's

4:51

very, very manipulative. He

4:54

draws people into him. He makes

4:58

you believe great things will happen for you

5:00

and you end up dead. Harold

5:11

Dow reports Hannibal runnies. What's

5:14

your favorite picture of your life? What's

5:17

your favorite picture of your life? That's

5:20

for some reason one of my all-time favorite pictures

5:22

ever, because it looks like she's just sitting there,

5:26

sitting with you, not

5:29

posed, not formal, just hanging

5:31

out. This is Rob

5:33

McLeod's daily ritual. You say you visit this

5:35

website every day. Why do you do it?

5:38

Just to see her. Just

5:40

for a second. And then there's

5:42

been real emotional days that I can't. I

5:45

can't possibly look at

5:47

her pictures. Rob's

5:51

daughter, 19-year-old Casey McLeod, vanished

5:53

in August 2003. Tell

5:58

us about her personality. Bright

6:02

and bubbly and

6:05

fun. She was a very

6:07

happy, easy to get along with,

6:10

wanting to please type

6:12

of kid. She danced

6:14

and sang all the time, all around the

6:16

house all the time. Casey

6:21

was Rob and Lori McLeod's only

6:23

child. When

6:25

she was a toddler, they doted on her. Casey

6:30

was brought up in bubble

6:32

wrap. We protected

6:34

her from everything. But

6:37

Casey's sheltered life didn't last long.

6:39

Rob and Lori divorced when she

6:41

was four, and as she got

6:43

older, Casey grew rebellious. She

6:46

buttoned heads with her mom and started smoking

6:48

and started engaging in behavior in high school

6:50

that her mom didn't approve of and then

6:52

packed her up and moved her down to

6:54

her aunt's in Arizona. Phoenix

6:56

was Casey's new home, and that's

6:59

where she met best friend Tabitha

7:01

Morton. We were both turning 16,

7:03

I believe, when I met her. We were so

7:06

close, literally, that we were practically attached at

7:08

the hook. Because we worked together, we

7:10

were going to school together, and we spent so

7:12

much of our personal time together. But

7:15

after high school, Tabitha says Casey fell

7:17

in with the wrong crowd. There

7:20

was a girl that decided

7:23

to move in with her. This girl

7:25

was heavy into drugs, and

7:27

she was bringing lots of

7:29

people who were using drugs

7:32

to the house. Quite often, Casey kind of

7:34

fell into that. When

7:37

I noticed that something was wrong, I called

7:40

her aunt, and I said, I think that

7:42

Casey's in some trouble. So

7:46

she was sent back to Colorado in late

7:48

2001. It

7:50

didn't change our friendship. I think it actually made

7:52

it stronger because she knew I was really looking

7:54

out for her. She had a

7:57

few months of drug use.

8:00

But that's not who she was. As

8:03

Casey settled back into her old

8:05

surroundings, a new man entered

8:07

her mother's life, Scott Kimball.

8:10

He was great. And he

8:12

was very charming and funny

8:15

and smart. Now living

8:17

with Scott and Lori, Casey seemed to

8:20

be getting herself back on track with

8:22

new friends and a new job. But

8:27

then came a shocking disappointment. Scott

8:30

found drugs in the house. And

8:35

when I confronted Casey, she

8:37

swore to me that they weren't hers.

8:40

She begged me to get a

8:43

drug test and that I

8:45

didn't believe her. When

8:47

Lori threatened to turn her into the

8:49

cops, Casey took off down the road

8:52

on her bicycle. What did

8:54

you think happened to Casey? I

8:57

thought she took off because I didn't

8:59

believe her. I

9:03

worried thick about her. I drove

9:05

around looking for her. At

9:07

first, Rob was angry. Casey had

9:10

run away before. I

9:12

was worried about her, but

9:15

not to the point of that I thought

9:17

any foul play happened. I figured she was

9:19

over, found a friend, and was crashing over

9:21

at their place. She'd call

9:23

or eventually just show up like

9:27

she had before. But

9:30

two days later, when Casey failed to show

9:32

up for her shift at a sandwich shop,

9:35

Lori became frantic. I

9:38

went to the police and

9:41

they told me that it was not my right to find

9:43

her. Casey was over 18. She

9:45

was not a runaway. She

9:47

simply left. You didn't

9:49

file a missing person's report? The

9:52

police won't allow that. There had to be

9:54

blood evidence of foul play in

9:56

order to file a missing person's report. But

10:00

Laurie had the support of Scott

10:02

Kimball, who had important law enforcement

10:05

contacts. He worked for the FBI. He

10:08

helped catch bad guys. So

10:10

when she disappeared, did you talk to

10:12

Scott? Yes. What did Scott say?

10:16

With his connections with the FBI, we'll find

10:18

her. Desperate, Laurie

10:20

even married Scott, seeing him as

10:23

the only hope to finding her

10:25

daughter. And sure enough,

10:27

he turned up a few leads, including

10:30

evidence that Casey had stopped by

10:32

the house very recently, when no

10:34

one was home. He

10:36

found Casey's necklace on her doorknob. Even

10:39

more promising, Scott found a neighbor

10:42

who said he had seen Casey

10:44

weeks after she disappeared. The

10:46

neighbor said that Casey

10:49

had been at the house with her boyfriend

10:51

and his sister. Like

10:56

in Phoenix, Tabitha Morton was also

10:58

looking frantically for her friend. I

11:01

called everybody that we knew I set up a

11:03

MySpace page for her, contacted

11:06

people from high school, passed

11:08

out flyers. Weeks

11:10

then months went by. The

11:13

most terrible thing for me to think of of

11:15

my daughter is that someone took her something

11:18

precious, something important

11:20

to me, and destroyed it and

11:22

threw it away. Like

11:24

it wasn't important to anybody. Together,

11:27

Rob and Tabitha began to wonder

11:29

if the key to Casey's disappearance

11:32

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13:46

another Colorado father was asking those

13:49

very same questions. months

14:00

before Casey McLeod disappeared,

14:02

Howard Emory's 24-year-old daughter,

14:05

Leanne, had also mysteriously

14:07

vanished. So

14:09

Howard, tell me about this picture of

14:12

Leanne. She was about 14 years

14:14

old. As you can see, she also loved the

14:16

outdoors. We were always exploring

14:19

the Rocky Mountains. Howard Emory

14:21

has spent countless hours replaying

14:23

Leanne's life, a life

14:26

that began full of promise. She was a

14:28

straight A student in high school and actually

14:30

graduated a year early. But

14:33

Leanne's life soon spiraled downwards. Her

14:35

mother's severe health problems kept Leanne

14:37

from finishing college. She

14:39

lost her job as a veterinarian's assistant

14:42

and she landed in an abusive marriage.

14:45

I think it was almost kind of the turning point.

14:47

I think she had a real feeling that she really

14:49

wasn't worth much, that she couldn't do much. In

14:52

2002, Leanne left her husband, but

14:55

her father was still concerned because

14:57

she began a relationship with a

14:59

prisoner named Stephen Holly. On

15:03

January 16, 2003,

15:06

Leanne's car with its unique license plate

15:08

pulled out of the driveway. The

15:11

dog she loved the most was Dalmatians. On

15:14

her car, she had a license

15:16

plate that said, Dal Gal. Leanne

15:19

said she was heading for a caving

15:21

trip in Mexico with friends. But

15:29

two weeks later, Howard got a call that

15:31

still haunts him. It was

15:33

the Sheriff's Department in Moab, Utah.

15:37

And they says, well, I hate

15:39

to tell you, but we found

15:41

her car abandoned in the Canyonlands

15:44

in Moab, Utah just yesterday. They

15:49

told me about the license plate and

15:51

I knew immediately, this is Leanne's car.

15:57

All her clothes, stuff

15:59

like that. left in the

16:01

car. Brent Pace, a

16:03

seasoned Utah investigator and tracker,

16:05

could tell someone had picked

16:07

Leanne up. The car was

16:09

actually pulled straight into here,

16:12

just like this, like you just drove in

16:14

off that road and parked it right here.

16:17

And then the driver got out and walked

16:19

back and got in another vehicle. One

16:22

set of shoe prints leaving this car to

16:24

another set of tire tracks. And

16:27

because of that, you know, we were kind

16:29

of concerned, you know, maybe

16:31

something did happen out here. Like the McClouds,

16:33

Howard tried to file a missing persons report

16:36

back in Colorado, but was shut

16:38

down. So

16:42

he decided to play detective himself.

16:44

I want to know why

16:46

she was gone. There's

16:51

obviously a million questions here. Using

16:57

credit card records, Howard pieced

16:59

together Leanne's trail in the

17:01

weeks before she disappeared. She

17:04

didn't go to Mexico. He

17:06

discovered Leanne was leading a secret

17:09

life. She

17:11

spent the 10 days before she

17:13

vanished traveling through the western United

17:15

States, writing bad checks and charging

17:17

thousands of dollars to her

17:20

father's credit card. I

17:22

was totally bewildered. She

17:24

was either threatened or blackmailed. She would not

17:26

have done this on her own. And

17:30

it seemed Howard was right. He

17:33

came across several emails Leanne had sent

17:35

a cousin just days before she left.

17:38

Emails that hinted she was in trouble, but

17:41

was being protected by someone with a

17:43

curious nickname. She

17:46

says, and as for Hannibal, I think I

17:48

can trust him. He's actually protecting me. My

17:51

thought is protecting her from what? A

17:54

few clues arrived in several cryptic

17:57

letters from Leanne's prison boyfriend, Stephen

17:59

Howard. Lee mainly told me

18:01

that she was in terrible

18:04

danger and please call the

18:06

F B I immediately. Alarmed,

18:11

Howard went to visit Holly who told

18:13

him that Hannibal was a former inmate.

18:16

He had put in touch with. Leann

18:18

by says tell me about Hannibal do

18:20

you think he would hurt my daughter

18:22

says as well I really don't think

18:25

terrible would hardly an but Hannibal does

18:27

know some people the wouldn't hesitate to

18:29

kill the end of he asked them

18:31

to do it. Was

18:36

Holly refused to reveal animals

18:38

true identity? And

18:40

when Howard brought holly story to

18:42

the F B I the agency

18:45

spoke to dismissed it as pure

18:47

fiction. As

18:49

a possible kidnapping here. and yet. and

18:51

yet he so no interest whatsoever. As

18:56

time passed, every one was left

18:58

with more questions than when they

19:00

began. Even read Pace who kept

19:03

up the search is hard to

19:05

be involved in a case and

19:07

not know the why's why's this

19:09

happen? It's hard to forgive cisterna

19:12

cases are minutes, somebody's child, a

19:14

human being and own so other

19:16

questions you really want answers. What?

19:20

No One realized? Hannibal was actually

19:22

working for the F B I.

19:26

Had been married to Laurie Macleod.

19:30

Animals real name. Scott.

19:33

Symbol. Only.

19:56

More. you macleod began having suspicions

19:58

about scott campbell after they were

20:00

married in August 2003, the

20:03

same month her daughter Casey went missing.

20:08

Off and on, he would say things that

20:10

didn't feel right, and again,

20:13

when I would question him, he would make me

20:15

feel I was losing my mind. And

20:18

to be perfectly honest, I wanted

20:20

to feel that what I

20:22

was thinking wasn't

20:24

right. But

20:28

it wasn't until two years later

20:30

that Lori shared some disturbing information

20:32

with her ex-husband, Rob McLeod. I'm

20:34

talking to Lori, she goes, well,

20:36

that whole weekend Casey went missing

20:38

is not quite what

20:40

I told you, there's a little bit more to it than

20:42

that. What did she say? She said

20:45

Scott took off the same weekend Casey

20:47

did on a solo, mystery, I don't

20:49

know where he went, camping

20:51

trip. Lori and

20:53

Rob weren't the only ones asking questions.

20:56

In early 2006, Kimball

20:59

became a suspect in a case that

21:01

Lafayette, Colorado, detective Gary Thatcher was investigating.

21:03

When did you first hear of the

21:06

name Scott Kimball? It

21:08

was when I had an officer come to me

21:10

with this check fraud case. That was the first

21:12

time I heard about him. Thatcher

21:15

learned that Kimball's job with the

21:17

FBI was as a paid criminal

21:19

informant. He was

21:21

also a con artist who had

21:23

spent most of his life racking up

21:26

felony convictions and prison time all

21:28

over the western United States. But

21:32

when Thatcher went to find Kimball, he was

21:34

gone. Well, it was January 2006. Initially,

21:37

I was talking to Lori about where is Scott

21:39

Kimball, and then she dropped that

21:41

on me, that Casey is missing, and

21:43

she's suspicious of Scott. That

21:45

was the eye opener that, you

21:48

know, the check fraud is important

21:50

here, but there's a much

21:52

bigger picture to this investigation. A

21:57

warrant was put out for Kimball's arrest.

21:59

Two months later, U.S. Marshals

22:01

tracked him down and after

22:04

a dramatic high-speed chase through

22:06

California's Coachella Valley, arrested the

22:08

con man. Now

22:11

with Kimball safely in custody, Detective

22:14

Thatcher made a vow to Rob

22:16

McLeod. He says, Rob, where there's

22:18

smoke, there's fire. He says, I

22:20

will not forget Casey. I

22:22

will not rest until we figure out what happened

22:25

to her. As

22:29

Thatcher dug deeper, he learned

22:31

from the FBI that Kimball

22:33

was connected years earlier to yet

22:35

another missing Colorado woman, Jennifer

22:38

Markham. Now it was just one more thing

22:40

added onto the pile of

22:42

suspicion. Jennifer was a

22:44

struggling single mother who worked as a

22:46

stripper. On February 17, 2003,

22:50

she visited her boyfriend, drug dealer

22:53

Steve Ennis, in prison. Shortly

22:56

after that visit, she

22:58

vanished. Just

23:03

total anxiety, beginning to wonder where

23:06

is she? Her father, Bob Markham, like

23:08

the other fathers, was stumped. All you

23:10

can do is hope that maybe she'd

23:13

been arrested, somehow put in

23:15

jail, that that's where she's at. How

23:17

old did you go through that? Pretty

23:20

year. Then one day,

23:22

Bob's phone rang. It was an FBI

23:24

agent named Carl Slough. And they asked

23:27

if Jennifer's there. And I said, no.

23:29

At that point, Ethan said that something bad

23:32

may have happened to her. Agent

23:35

Slough revealed that Jennifer's car had been

23:37

found abandoned at the Denver airport. It

23:39

was after a while that we found

23:41

out that they had found it a

23:44

year before. And nobody had contacted us.

23:47

Doesn't that seem odd? I

23:49

couldn't believe it. Markham

23:51

kept pressing Slough for answers, so

23:53

the agent set up a meeting

23:55

with his informant, who had once

23:57

shared a prison cell with Jennifer's

23:59

boyfriend. That informant was

24:02

Scott Kimball. He

24:06

told me where she was, how

24:09

she died, how it happened, everything.

24:15

Jennifer's mother, Mary Willis, came with

24:17

Bob to this park to meet

24:19

Scott Kimball. He told them that

24:22

Jennifer had been killed by some

24:24

of her boyfriend's drug associates. Kimball

24:26

said he had even seen pictures

24:28

of her dead. He

24:33

told me she was strangled. She

24:36

was tied up and she was strangled from behind.

24:39

And she put up a fight. As

24:42

he was telling you this, what were you thinking of him?

24:45

I was thinking, how could

24:47

he know this? Then

24:50

Kimball made Jennifer's parents a chilling

24:52

offer. When we were done with

24:54

the conversation, get ready to leave, then he

24:57

came up and said, if you

24:59

stay until tomorrow, I'll go up in the mountains with you and

25:02

take you up in the mountains to show you where she's at. You

25:04

didn't go with him, neither did your ex-wife. No,

25:07

when we got done

25:09

talking at the picnic table and stuff, I'd

25:12

already decided that Scott Kimball had killed

25:14

my daughter. I

25:18

thought that if we went in the mountains with him the

25:21

next day or then, that they'd never see

25:23

us again. When

25:26

Jennifer's parents brought their suspicions to Agent

25:28

Slough, he dismissed them and defended his

25:30

informant. He trusted Scott Kimball, never should

25:32

have trusted Scott Kimball. I

25:36

always had the impression that the

25:39

FBI has meet Scott. To

25:41

make it so we would feel badly

25:43

about what Jennifer was

25:45

doing and how she'd been living in her

25:48

life. I

25:50

didn't care because I loved Jennifer,

25:53

and no matter what she did, we wanted

25:57

her back. I

26:00

think they really thought that by doing this,

26:03

we would become one of the families that

26:05

would just turn around and

26:08

get on the airplane and

26:10

go back home and

26:12

Jennifer would just be, disappear. So

26:16

Bob Markham took matters into his own

26:19

hands and put up a

26:21

billboard next to the strip club where

26:23

Jennifer had once danced. We wanted to

26:25

try and find out if someone would

26:27

come forward some information about her. It

26:30

worked and in June of

26:32

2006, this would have been a couple months after

26:34

Scott was apprehended, I'm reading

26:36

in the newspaper about Bob Markham putting

26:38

up a billboard for his missing daughter

26:41

for Jennifer Markham. And as I'm reading

26:43

the story, I come across Scott Kimball's

26:45

name in the story. He is the

26:47

last one Jennifer was spending time with.

26:50

My heart about leapt out of my chest. When

26:54

Rob called, he

26:56

said, we have something in common.

26:59

He said my daughter disappeared

27:02

and my ex-wife is married

27:04

to Scott Kimball. Hungry

27:07

for more information, Bob went to

27:09

see Lori McLeod. And then

27:11

I asked Lori, is there

27:14

anyone else that you could

27:16

think of that you'd been

27:18

around you and Scott that

27:21

you haven't ever seen again? And it

27:23

was just like a light bulb went off in her head.

27:26

She sat back in a chair and then she goes, oh

27:29

my God. She

27:31

says, Uncle Terry came and

27:33

lived with us for

27:35

a couple weeks. And then

27:37

he left and we'd never seen him again. Scott

27:40

Kimball's Uncle Terry Kimball had vanished from

27:42

their home in 2004. And

27:46

I immediately knew that

27:49

I finally had something to go to the FBI

27:51

with. So,

27:53

together Bob Markham and Rob

27:56

McLeod, two fathers with missing

27:58

daughters, marched into the FBI. FBI's

28:00

Denver office and revealed their suspicions about Scott

28:02

Kimball to the new supervisor. The final thing

28:04

we told them is you guys have a

28:07

choice. You could be the hero of the

28:09

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28:11

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Agent Jonathan Grew same was assigned

30:06

to investigate Scott Campbell. If you

30:08

had to pick one thing that

30:10

drives got tumble. What? Is. Greed.

30:13

most likely. And now

30:15

agreed for money. But he craves attention

30:17

and he craves power as well. Joining.

30:20

Aging bruising on the case. was

30:23

Detective Gary Thatcher already a year

30:25

into his own investigation of Campbell?

30:29

Together they embarked on the most complex

30:31

cat and mouse game of their careers.

30:33

As they began to interview Campbell who

30:35

was still in jail pending fraud charges

30:37

you know he's very good, was come

30:39

up with stories and so when you're

30:41

sitting there listening to your think and

30:43

how do I prove this, how do

30:45

I disprove it out? Oh I, you

30:47

know, substantiate. as with fact, One

30:50

of kimball stories was that his

30:53

uncle Terry now missing for two

30:55

years had one be Ohio lottery

30:57

and moved to Mexico with a

30:59

stripper. Though. House they lottery never

31:02

paid out or Terry Kimball who's never

31:04

have a winner. The investigators suspected Terry

31:06

was murdered when Kimball discovered he had

31:09

come into some money from a divorce.

31:11

Terry was carrying around thousands and thousands

31:13

of dollars in a briefcase he would

31:15

let go of. For.

31:17

Me, that's enough motive for him to kill Terry.

31:20

Next. Goosing and Thatcher focused

31:22

on Jennifer Markham. She

31:25

had first com to Kimball's attention when

31:28

he shared a cell with her boyfriend

31:30

Steve Ennis. Back in Two Thousand Two,

31:32

and Scott Campbell saw pictures of Jennifer

31:35

up on the wall. And

31:37

she was very attractive woman and he

31:39

made such comments to Steve that he

31:41

could find her a good job when

31:43

he got out of prison. What was

31:45

his real motive? Is

31:47

real motive was to have Jennifer for

31:49

himself. The

31:52

com man also wanted to get out

31:54

of prison and he had a plan

31:56

kimball convince the F B I that

31:58

Jennifer Mortem was. part of a

32:01

murder for hire plot. No information that

32:03

I have says that she even knew

32:05

about this plot that Scott was spending

32:07

when he was there in prison. But

32:10

the FBI bought Kimball's story at the

32:12

time. And when he

32:15

was released in December 2002, he went

32:17

to work as an informant in

32:19

the phony case. Two months later,

32:22

Jennifer vanished. And

32:25

while Goosing was trying to figure out

32:28

what actually happened to Jennifer, he got

32:30

an unexpected lead. So

32:33

I interviewed Steve Ennis about

32:35

Jennifer's disappearance. And

32:37

at the end of the interview, when we were about

32:40

to wrap up, he said, oh, and one other thing,

32:43

there was another guy down here in the prison that

32:45

had a girlfriend disappear that Scott might have had something

32:47

to do with. That

32:50

inmate was Stephen Holly, Leanne

32:52

Emery's boyfriend. I

32:56

spoke with Mr. Emery and

32:58

said, I'm doing an investigation. I'm trying to

33:00

speak with Leanne Emery. And

33:02

he said, we haven't seen Leanne since 2003. When

33:05

you heard those words, what thoughts were

33:08

in the moment? I did send a chill down my spine because

33:11

I knew then that this was going to be another

33:13

victim of Scott Kimball. Investigators

33:17

felt they could prove that when

33:19

they found Leanne's picture, her hair

33:21

died brown on Kimball's laptop. Boulder

33:24

County prosecutor Amy Akubo.

33:26

Oh my God, the last person that Casey was

33:28

known to be with was Scott Kimball. Oh my

33:31

God, the last person that Jennifer Markham was known

33:33

to be with was Scott Kimball. Oh my God,

33:36

Leanne Emery was the last person that

33:38

Scott Kimball was with. And so bit

33:40

by bit, piece by piece, it became

33:42

apparent just how dangerous he was. But

33:46

there were still no bodies, and the

33:48

con man was admitting to nothing. Investigators

33:52

kept pushing, and finally in April 2008, Kimball dropped

33:54

a hint. He

33:57

said in this meeting that

33:59

there wasn't. who died of

34:01

a drug overdose that was on national forest

34:03

land. Gruesing

34:06

had a receipt showing Kimball

34:08

was in Walden, Colorado, near a

34:11

national forest. That same weekend,

34:13

Casey McLeod went missing. He

34:16

called the Forest Service. I asked

34:18

if they had any missing people up there.

34:20

I ended up speaking with basically

34:22

the phone receptionist, and she

34:24

said, no, but a skull was found up here

34:26

last winter, so maybe you can check on that.

34:30

A hunter had stumbled across the skull.

34:33

Gruesing ordered a DNA test on

34:35

the remains, and

34:38

they proved to be Casey

34:40

McLeod. Finally,

34:44

the Scott Kimball case was an

34:46

official homicide investigation. And he went

34:48

to Great Links to conceal these

34:51

bodies, and I believe he thought no

34:53

one would ever find them. After

34:58

four long years, Rob

35:00

McLeod finally had an answer to his

35:02

prayers. One way or another,

35:06

she's coming home. She's not

35:08

lost anymore. And

35:15

Lori McLeod's worst nightmares were realized.

35:18

What do you think really happened?

35:21

I believe Scott planted the drugs to set

35:23

everything up. That was to get her out

35:25

of the house? Yes. So

35:28

he can get her? To separate us, yes. You

35:30

find out that the man that you married, the

35:33

man who said he was going to be there to help

35:35

you find Casey, you

35:37

now find out that he may have been the one who killed her.

35:40

Yes. It's impossible

35:42

to describe knowing

35:44

that you've married your daughter's

35:46

murderer. But

35:50

with no evidence of how Casey died,

35:52

and with no other bodies, prosecutors

35:54

worried they still did not have

35:57

enough to put Kimball on trial

35:59

for murder. meeting after meeting

36:01

after meeting and briefing and

36:03

continual here's all the evidence

36:05

that we have do you think we have enough

36:07

yet in December 2008 prosecutors

36:11

got one step closer to putting

36:13

Kimball away for good when he

36:16

was sentenced to 48 years on

36:18

his recent nonviolent crimes but

36:21

lead prosecutor Katarina Booth wanted more

36:23

what we wanted him marked for

36:25

of course is the violent you

36:27

know murderer that he is so

36:32

prosecutors made a difficult decision they

36:35

offered Kimball a deal no

36:37

charges of first-degree murder if he would

36:39

lead them to the three missing bodies

36:42

Kimball accepted and in the winter of

36:44

2009 he led authorities

36:46

to the remote canyons of Eastern

36:48

Utah where he claimed they would

36:50

find the remains of Lee Ann

36:52

Emory and Jennifer Markham everyday

36:59

is full of energy and he gave us

37:01

to do list did you do this did

37:03

you get satellite imagery did you get a

37:05

plane to fly me over Kimball

37:08

spent days leading the FBI and

37:10

the Grand County Sheriff's Department on

37:12

a fruitless search for Lee Ann

37:16

but then agent gruesome spotted

37:18

something right in here right

37:21

in here yeah what exactly did you see down

37:23

there some bones for

37:25

the big boulder is and

37:28

then there was a rock to the

37:30

left lifted up the rock and it was a hair

37:32

clip with hair by

37:35

that time and it was her Lee

37:42

Ann Emory had lain on this

37:44

lonely canyon ledge for six years

37:47

she had a high potential and

37:50

she just she took the wrong for God

37:52

involved with the wrong people and

37:54

she didn't deserve this found

37:57

near her bones was a spent bullet

37:59

it matched Scott Kimball's gun.

38:02

We believe that Scott marched her up here and

38:06

executed her. Why

38:12

do you suppose Scott Kimball murdered

38:14

Leanne? Leanne had been dragged into

38:17

laundering money for Scott, so I

38:19

believe that Leanne had served

38:21

her purpose and that he was done

38:24

with her, and that's why he took her up here

38:26

and killed her.

38:28

Now only one missing woman

38:30

remained. But

38:32

is this suspected serial killer finally ready

38:35

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38:37

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you. I

40:00

think Scott enjoys manipulating people. He's

40:03

very good at twisting the truth.

40:07

After taking investigators to the body

40:09

of Leann Emery, Scott Campbell told

40:11

them weird to find the remains

40:13

of his Uncle Terry but his

40:15

leads about Jennifer Markham's body and

40:18

Utah turned up empty. We not

40:20

only searched at with Scott here

40:22

we came back and searched and

40:24

with Grand County with canine unit

40:26

researched it with a geologists with

40:28

flown Oliver with airplanes. And

40:31

up here do you know exactly which know

40:33

I I believe I'm a know the area

40:35

there in reactor realize. I was

40:38

at the one time. It was

40:40

dark. I was

40:42

there once. Scott Campbell insists he's

40:45

trying to help find Jennifer. What

40:47

Is it? Just another com? I've

40:49

made every effort. To. Help them

40:51

with Jennifer. I've told him I'd take a

40:53

polygraph to me for them being truthful in

40:56

the directions I've given him. What I remember,

40:58

he's very methodical, He's. Very careful

41:00

where he puts his victims. And

41:03

I give it basically zero probability

41:05

that he has forgotten. or Jennifer

41:07

Markham is. Nevertheless,

41:13

in October, two thousand nine,

41:15

the families of Scott Kimball's

41:18

victims gather in court. Is

41:21

nice to build a be there to look

41:23

him in the eye and in a watch

41:25

him takes some accountability. The con man had

41:27

been charged with second degree murder. Amount

41:31

of felt very mobile.we

41:33

are more about a

41:35

marked man over cloud.

41:44

And with that word, guilty,

41:47

a monumental six year case

41:49

finally comes to an end.

41:51

You. Never gave up his family's because

41:53

he can only imagine the torture of

41:55

England, France and and. Their

41:58

distress in South. And

42:01

now Bob Markham and Rob

42:03

McLeod, the two fathers whose

42:06

determination forced the FBI to

42:08

investigate what happened to their

42:10

daughters, addressed the court. Casey

42:13

Dawn McLeod was my first born daughter. I

42:16

was present right there at the very first moment she

42:19

took her first breath. Scott

42:21

Kimball was there to take her last. Scott

42:25

Kimball has destroyed our lives. Our

42:27

lives will never be the same. How

42:30

many other people are missing as a result of

42:32

his life? And

42:36

Howard Emery finally confronts

42:38

Hannibal. My daughter

42:40

was a young woman with feelings and

42:42

dreams. And to treat

42:44

her like trash is despicable. He is

42:46

a liar, a deceiver, a murderer. For

42:51

the deaths of four people, Scott

42:53

Kimball is sentenced to 70 years.

42:57

But he insists he's not a serial

42:59

killer. I'm just a guy. People

43:02

would call me cold-blooded, cold-hearted, but you'll find dozens

43:05

of people that will say just the opposite. He'll give you the shirt off

43:07

his back. He freely admits

43:09

only to the murder of his

43:11

own uncle and speaks in

43:13

riddles about the three young women. I

43:16

did kill Terry Kimball. I did.

43:18

And for the other three, I was a mechanism.

43:22

I was part of the mechanics. Mechanism

43:25

could be many things. It could be the person

43:27

pulling the trigger. It could be. It could be the

43:29

person that arranged for the hit or the death or whatever you

43:31

want to call it. There's a lot

43:33

it could be. If there were other people involved who

43:35

committed the murders, you're not going to reveal

43:37

who it was. Never will I reveal who

43:39

it was. I'm not the FBI. I'm not the police. Investigators

43:44

say Kimball won't name accomplices for

43:46

a very good reason. They

43:48

don't exist. I think

43:50

the murders of these women are very private

43:52

to him. I believe there was

43:54

some sort of sexual attraction for him as well

43:57

that he doesn't like to talk about. I

44:00

believe that's why he's able to take responsibility for

44:02

Uncle Terry's death, because it was purely for financial

44:04

gain. But there was something else involved

44:07

with Scott and these three girls. Whatever

44:10

darkness fuels Scott Kimball's murderous

44:13

rampage, the victims' families

44:15

are grateful the FBI finally

44:17

helped unmask the killer.

44:20

Did anyone from the FBI

44:22

ever apologize to you? Repeatedly. They

44:25

said, we're sorry, this has all

44:27

happened. He hoodwinked us. He's fooled

44:30

everybody. Yet they

44:32

remain angry at the system and

44:34

Agent Karl Schloss, whose negligence, they

44:36

say, gave Kimball the freedom to

44:38

commit the murders. If someone were

44:40

watching Scott, Casey would still be

44:42

here today. Jennifer

44:45

was the person he was let out of prison

44:47

to monitor, and she

44:49

went missing almost immediately. Jim

44:52

Davis of the FBI's Denver

44:55

office says the FBI cannot

44:57

constantly monitor criminal informants. We

45:00

can't control them 24 hours a day. We

45:02

just, we don't have the resources

45:05

to do that. And really, we don't have

45:07

the authority to do it. You know, this

45:09

case is a tragedy. I

45:11

mean, it's a tragedy for the victims. It's

45:13

a tragedy for the victims' families. But to

45:15

be clear, you know, the individual responsible for

45:17

that is Scott Kimball. And

45:20

it's not the FBI. It's not anybody else. It

45:22

is him. He did it. I don't know if

45:24

we use the phrase dealing with the devil. I

45:26

guess you were dealing with the devil in

45:28

this case. He is as close as I've seen. What

45:34

remains are shattered lives, but

45:37

at least two lost daughters have

45:39

finally come home. As

45:44

long as I'm alive, her

45:46

memory is always going to be there. And

45:49

I have to reconcile the fact

45:51

that I won't ever

45:53

see her again. Casey's

45:57

loss is like the background noise of my

45:59

life. life. I can

46:01

find joy and happiness and

46:03

feel normal a lot of the time,

46:06

but when it's quiet, she's

46:09

that background noise that's always there.

46:13

However, the search for Jennifer Markham

46:16

continues. As her father waits for

46:18

news that may never come,

46:22

he takes solace in the fact

46:24

that it was his perseverance that

46:27

helped put his daughter's killer away.

46:30

The possibility today exists

46:33

that you may never know where she's buried. That's

46:37

true. I really would like to have my daughter's

46:39

body packed, but knowing

46:41

that Scott Kimball is in

46:43

prison and that he's not going to be getting out of

46:45

prison for at least 35 years

46:49

means more to me than you can imagine. And

46:52

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46:54

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46:56

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46:59

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47:01

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