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And because both cars
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were made by GM, were
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both cars available in
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metallic mint green paint?
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They were. Thank you, Ms.
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Vito. No more questions.
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Thank you very, very much. You've
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been a lovely, lovely
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witness.
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Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Fiasco
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and Prologue Projects. On this episode
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of 5 to 4, Peter, Rhiannon,
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and Michael are reflecting on the past year's
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term at the Supreme Court. It's
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been a year of big wins for the right, with
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the court rejecting President Biden's student
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loan forgiveness program and creating
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a new legal way to discriminate against LGBTQ
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people. But the spotlight has
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also been on the court in a way it hasn't been
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before, with reporters turning up
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unethical and illegal activities by the justices.
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Meanwhile, Congress has shown little to no
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appetite for restraining the court, meaning
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this podcast will continue to have a reason to
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exist at least into the next term. This
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is 5 to 4, a podcast about how
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much the Supreme Court sucks.
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Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect
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and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have
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tanked our nation's brand, like Elon Musk
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tanking Twitter's
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when he turned it into X.com.
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When he turned it into something else.
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I'm Peter, I'm here with Rhiannon. Hey,
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hello. And Michael. Hey everybody.
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Did you see that the logo is literally
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just like a basic publicly available
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font? Yeah. Incredible. Genius,
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this is genius at work. It's like the papyrus
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SNL skit, but like for real. Right,
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right. The things that he thinks are cool are
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things that teenage boys think are cool.
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And it's like, that's it.
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Like the letter X. Like, you know, he
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designs cars that look like the dumbest shit
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ever. Cybertruck. Yeah, like when I
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was in fourth grade, I would try to like design cars. and
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like say with my friends, right? You just like draw the dumbest
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fucking thing that looked like a rocket ship. And
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I was like, whoa, yes, this
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is sick. And that's what Elon's doing,
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except he has enough money to make it a reality and
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actual teenage boys are looking at it like, that
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is cool. Anyway, we're back.
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We're back after a short break.
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And we're gonna take this opportunity
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to reflect on the term,
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reflect on what is going on at the
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Supreme Court. We've done
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a few cases from this term already.
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We will do a few more in the
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future. But for now,
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we wanna talk big picture. What
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sort of themes are we seeing? How
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did this term make us feel? Let's
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hop on the therapist couch and get
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it out. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm gonna kick things off with a rant
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that probably fits better at the end of an episode,
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but. But go off. Yeah, let's
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do it. So the legal
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media is in a constant cycle of trying
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to characterize and recharacterize
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the Supreme Court
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based on whatever has happened most
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recently. Couple of years ago, the
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court had a slightly more moderated
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term. The narrative was that they
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were divided three, three, three between
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liberal, moderate and conservative
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blocs. And the next year we had Dobbs
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and Bruin.
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And suddenly the narrative was a conservative
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court. Roberts has lost control.
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And this is the output of a media
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apparatus that lacks object
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permanence. And it's
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sort of continuing now. You see the same
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pitter patter. The legal media is trying
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to extrapolate from what happened this term
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to pull out some
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overarching narrative about what's happening
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at the court. The conservative bloc didn't
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get everything they wanted on voting rights. They
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hedged in some cases, but they
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limited environmental regulations. They struck down
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affirmative action, struck down student loan forgiveness,
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damaged LGBT rights.
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So how far do the rights
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go? Are Kavanaugh and
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Barrett moderating? Is John
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Roberts in control? My
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response to all of this is,
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calm the fuck down, you know? Hey folks, if you want to
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