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we have important developments

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in our five year

5:16

investigation of mysterious brain

5:18

injuries reported by Us.

5:21

National Security officials. Be.

5:23

Injured include White House staff,

5:25

Cia officers F B I

5:28

agents, military officers and their

5:30

families. Many. Believe that

5:32

they were wounded by a secret

5:35

weapon that fires are high energy

5:37

beam of microwaves or ultrasound. This.

5:40

Is our fourth story. And.

5:42

For the first time, we have

5:44

evidence of who might be responsible.

5:47

Most. Of the injured have fought

5:49

for America often in secret. And.

5:51

They're frustrated. That. The

5:54

Us government publicly doubts

5:56

that an adversary is

5:58

targeting Americans. One.

6:01

Of them is kerry. Were.

6:03

Disguising her and not using her

6:05

last name because she's still an

6:07

F B I agent working in

6:10

Counter Intelligence. She says in Twenty

6:12

Twenty One she was home in

6:14

Florida when she was hit by

6:16

a crippling force and Bam! And

6:19

sudden my right ear it was

6:21

like a dentist. Drilling. On

6:23

Steroids that ceiling when it

6:25

says tickets to close her

6:27

eardrum. It's like that you

6:30

times ten. It was like our sights.

6:32

It's metallic drilling noise, And. It

6:34

knocked me forward. it like. A

6:36

forty five degree angle this way and. She says

6:38

she was by a window in her laundry

6:41

room in. My. Right ear was

6:43

line of sight. To. That window.

6:45

While. This thing was happening my ear and when

6:47

I leaned forward it's on a knock. knock me

6:50

over but not me forwards. Immediately

6:52

felt pressure. And pressure

6:54

and pain. Started. Courses

6:56

from inside my right

6:58

ear. Down my jaw and

7:00

my next An intimate says. At

7:03

the same time as B I,

7:05

Agent Kerry told us the battery

7:07

in her phone began to swell

7:09

until it broke the case. Finally

7:12

she passed out on a can't.

7:15

Because of chest pain, she was

7:17

checked by a cardiologist and in

7:20

return to duty. And. I

7:22

remember complaining so of my

7:24

colleagues for months after that.

7:27

I. Felt like had early alzheimer's. Short.

7:29

Term Memory. Long Term memory.

7:31

Since using memories multitasking, my

7:33

baseline changed. I was not

7:35

the same. Person. But. Harrys

7:38

story matches those we've uncovered

7:40

over the years. It was

7:42

like this piercings. Ceilings.

7:45

On the side of my head it was like I remember It was

7:47

on the right side of my head and I. I

7:50

gotten like vertigo. Olivia.

7:52

Troy was Homeland Security Advisor to

7:54

Vice President Mike Pence in our

7:56

twenty twenty two referred. She told

7:59

her she. He had outside

8:01

the White House and then severe

8:03

pain started So I like in

8:05

it sir. If you put a

8:07

cue tips in foreign you bounce

8:09

off her eardrum or imagine taking sharp

8:11

pencil from Skype, how can that?

8:13

And this man told us he was

8:15

among the first publicly known cases

8:17

in twenty six teams from our embassy

8:20

in Cuba. That's how the incidence

8:22

became known as Havana Syndrome. He's

8:25

medically retired from an agency

8:27

we can't name. blind in

8:29

one eye. And struggling for

8:32

balance. What we're hearing about now

8:34

is a major medical study for

8:36

the government was led by Dr.

8:38

David Rail Months of Stanford University.

8:41

In our Twenty twenty two report,

8:43

he told us what we sound.

8:45

Was. We thought clear evidence.

8:48

Of an injury to the auditory

8:50

and the stimulus system of the

8:53

brain. Everything's. Starting

8:55

with the inner ear

8:57

where humans Percy's. Sound.

9:00

And sense balance.

9:03

And. Then translate those perceptions

9:06

into. Our brain

9:08

electrical signals. His

9:11

studied sound directed post

9:13

radio frequency energy appears

9:15

to be the most

9:17

plausible mechanism. For. Example

9:20

of focused beam of

9:22

microwaves or acoustic ultrasound.

9:26

More. Than one hundred officials

9:28

or family members have

9:30

unexplained persistent symptoms. If

9:33

I turn to sauce my gyroscope, his office and

9:35

slaves like a step behind where I'm supposed to

9:37

be. So. I'll turn sea sauce and will literally walk

9:39

right into the wall or the door frame. Now.

9:42

For the first time, the

9:44

case of F B I

9:46

Agent Carry suggests which adversary

9:48

might be responsible. She.

9:51

Spoke with the of the ice

9:53

permission but wasn't allowed to discuss

9:55

the case she was on when

9:57

she was hit. We have learned

9:59

from. The other sources. One.

10:01

Of those cases involve this

10:03

mustang. Going

10:06

a hundred and ten miles an hour. In

10:13

Twenty Twenty near Key West

10:15

Florida, deputies tried to stop

10:17

the Mustang for speeding. It

10:19

ran fifteen miles until it

10:21

hits spike strips laid in

10:23

it's path. A

10:38

search of the car found notes

10:40

of bank accounts say thank. You

10:43

discover saying seventy five thousand.

10:46

And. This device that looks like

10:49

a walkie talkie ten or

10:51

race the car's computer data

10:53

including it's Gps record. There

10:55

was also. A Russian

10:58

passport was a first name is

11:00

telling me I sell my life.

11:02

Vitali Kovalev was the driver from

11:04

St. Petersburg, Russia not Florida. Why

11:07

did you run the be honest

11:09

when I don't know why you're

11:11

right and we don't know why

11:14

he ran, but what we learned

11:16

suggests he was a Russian spy.

11:19

Will. Be see here is bitterly

11:21

cold. It's sitting exactly this

11:23

formula. Cristo Gross have

11:25

is a journalist When legendary

11:27

for unmasking Russian plots in Twenty

11:30

Twenty, he uncovered the names of

11:32

the Russian secret agents who

11:34

poisons lead a mere pittance rival

11:36

Alexi know vol me. Rose

11:39

has his lead investigator for

11:42

our collaborator on this story,

11:44

The Insider, a magazine by

11:47

Russian exiles. We. Asked

11:49

him to trace Vitali Kovalev.

11:51

He started in the Military

11:54

Institute historic Radio Electronics with

11:56

a particular focus on use

11:58

within the Moon. During a

12:00

bomb of micro electronics he had

12:02

all the technology know how that

12:04

would be required for somebody to

12:06

be assisting and operation that requires

12:08

hi to college and and then

12:11

all the sudden up to working

12:13

for two years in a military

12:15

institute he up and decides to

12:17

become a chef. Kovalev.

12:19

The emigrated to the U S

12:21

and worked as a chef in

12:24

New York and Washington D C.

12:26

even appearing at Far Left in

12:28

a T V cooking segment stress

12:31

or Srs. S Wonderful!

12:33

Sas. But Kovalev

12:35

was actually a Russian military

12:38

electrical engineer with a top

12:40

secret security clearance. Ten someone

12:42

like Kovalev simply decided to

12:45

drop all of that him,

12:47

become a chef. It

12:49

is not an easy job to just leave

12:52

that behind once you're in the military. it's

12:54

and you've been trained and the Ministry of

12:56

Defence has invested in you. You remain at

12:58

their beck and call for the rest of

13:00

your life. We

13:02

don't know what caused the

13:04

lab was up to, but

13:06

our sources say over months

13:09

He spent eighty hours being

13:11

interviewed by F B I

13:13

Agent Kerry, who had investigated

13:15

multiple Russian spies. Cove.

13:18

Live pled guilty to evading

13:20

police and reckless driving. He.

13:22

Was sentenced to thirty months. While.

13:25

He was in jail. Terry said

13:27

she was hit in Florida and

13:29

a year later when she awoke

13:31

to the same symptoms in the

13:33

middle of the night. In

13:36

California. Is. So like I was

13:38

stuck in this state. Of

13:40

like this orientation not able to

13:42

function on what is happening and

13:45

my whole body was pulsing. We.

13:48

Martin. Said his carries attorney.

13:50

He has a security clearance

13:52

and for decades has represented

13:54

Americans working and national security.

13:57

Zaid, Has more than two

14:00

dozen point suffering symptoms of

14:02

her Banner Syndrome which the

14:04

government now calls anomalous health

14:07

incidents. I have Cia

14:09

and State Department clients as

14:11

well. Who believe they've

14:13

been impacted domestically. There are

14:16

dozens. Of C I A cases.

14:18

That. Have happened domestically that is

14:20

at least believed I And and

14:23

we're not even just talking about.

14:26

Physical Manifestation Were talking

14:28

about evidence of computer

14:31

issues. In. The midst. Of

14:34

the incident where computer screens

14:36

just literally stop working or

14:38

go flicker on and off.

14:40

Do you know whether there

14:42

are other. F B

14:44

I agents who have also suffered

14:46

from these anomalous health and fitness.

14:49

There are other F B

14:51

I agents and personnel. Not

14:54

just agents analysts. I represent

14:56

one other F B I

14:58

person who was impacted in

15:01

Miami. I. Also, know of

15:03

F B I personnel who believed they

15:05

were hit overseas in the last decade

15:07

were any of these members of the

15:09

F B I Counter intelligence people in

15:11

addition to carry. The. One thread

15:14

that I know of with

15:16

the F B I personnel

15:18

that is common among. Most

15:20

if not all of my clients.

15:22

Others in this family members connected

15:25

to this employee. Was

15:27

they were all doing something

15:29

relating to Russia? Vitale.

15:32

Kovalev served his time and and

15:34

twenty twenty two went back to

15:37

Russia, ignoring American warnings that he

15:39

was in danger because he'd spent

15:41

so much time with the F

15:44

B I. Cristo

15:46

Gross have this death certificate

15:48

from last year which says

15:50

Koba lives was killed at

15:53

the front. In Ukraine.

15:56

Do. Think Overload was sent to Ukraine

15:58

as a punishment. One theory that he

16:00

was send their in order for him to be disposed

16:03

of. His couple of really

16:05

dead or is this another cover story

16:07

that is a very good question them.

16:09

We actually worked on both hypotheses for

16:12

while I do believe at this point

16:14

at some he was dead. Were.

16:17

Dealing with. Energy weapons.

16:20

It's. Not going anywhere. Mattel such

16:22

as it's Then. It's. Next

16:24

Generation weaponry and unfortunately.

16:27

It's. Than a refined on some of

16:29

us and where the test subjects. When

16:33

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16:35

hear from the Pentagon official

16:37

who led a global investigation

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said be. Us.

17:52

Intelligence says publicly there is

17:55

no credible evidence that an

17:57

adversary is inflicting brain injury.

18:00

On: National Security officials. And.

18:02

Yet more than one hundred

18:04

Americans have symptoms that scientists

18:07

say could be caused by

18:09

a beam of microwaves or

18:11

acoustic ultrasound. The. Pentagon

18:13

launched an investigation run by

18:16

a recently retired Army Lieutenant

18:18

Colonel. Greg. Ed Green.

18:21

Has never spoken publicly, Until

18:23

now. Are. We

18:25

being attacked. My. Personal

18:27

opinion? Yes. By whom. Russia.

18:32

Greg. Add Green ran the

18:34

investigation for the Defense Intelligence

18:36

Agency. He would not

18:38

discuss classified information, but he described

18:40

his team's work from Twenty Twenty

18:43

one to Twenty Twenty Three. We.

18:45

Were collecting a large body

18:48

of data ranging from signals

18:50

intelligence, human intelligence, open source

18:53

reporting. ah, I'm anything regarding

18:55

the internet, travel records, financial

18:58

records, you name it. Unfortunately,

19:00

I take it into specifics based

19:02

on the classification, but I can

19:04

tell you at a very early

19:06

stage. I. Started to focus on

19:09

Moscow. Can. You tell me

19:11

about the patterns you began to

19:13

see. One of the things. I.

19:16

Started to notice. Was

19:18

the caliber of our officer?

19:21

That. Was been impacted.

19:24

This wasn't happening to our

19:26

worst or our middle range

19:29

officers. This was happening to

19:31

our top five ten percent

19:34

performing officers across the Defense

19:36

Intelligence Agency And consistently there

19:38

was a rush and nexus.

19:41

There. Was some angle where they

19:43

worked against Russia. Focused on Russia

19:46

and done extremely well. What?

19:48

Has been the impact on American

19:50

National secured. The. Impact

19:53

has been that. The.

19:55

Intelligence officers in our diplomats

19:57

working abroad. Or. Been

19:59

removed. Their posts with dramatic brain

20:02

injuries their been neutralized. Tonight.

20:04

We're reporting for the first time. An.

20:07

Incident at last year's Nato

20:09

Summit in Lithuania. A

20:12

meeting that focused largely on Russia's

20:14

invasion of Ukraine and was attended

20:16

by President Biden. Multiple.

20:19

Sources tell us that a senior

20:21

official of the Department of Defense

20:23

was struck by the symptoms. And.

20:26

Sought medical treatment, We.

20:28

Told Gray get green what we'd learned,

20:31

It tells me that there are

20:33

no barriers on what Moscow will

20:35

do on who they will attack.

20:37

And. That if we don't say

20:40

says head on the problem is

20:42

going to get worse. The problem

20:44

first appeared in public in twenty

20:46

six teams. Us officials reported being

20:49

hurt in Cuba and the incidents

20:51

became known as Havana Syndrome. But.

20:54

We have learned it

20:56

started two years earlier when

20:58

at least four Americans reported

21:01

symptoms in Frankfurt, Germany.

21:04

There is also evidence of

21:06

what could be revenge attacks.

21:09

For. Example in Twenty fourteen.

21:12

Three. Cia officers were

21:14

stationed in Ukraine. Vladimir.

21:16

Putins obsession. Twenty.

21:19

Fourteen was the year that

21:21

a popular revolt over through

21:23

prudence preferred leader. Later.

21:26

Those. Cia officers went on

21:28

to other assignments. And.

21:30

Reported being hit. One.

21:32

In Uzbekistan. One. In

21:35

Vietnam. And. The third

21:37

officers family was hit in

21:39

London. The. Think if

21:41

it is Russia. Investigative reporter

21:43

Cristo grows have believes he

21:45

knows who's involved in twenty

21:48

eighteen Gross. Have was the

21:50

first to discover the existence

21:52

of a top secret Russian

21:54

intelligence unit. Which goes by

21:56

a number. Two. Nine, One

21:59

Five, Psi. These. Are

22:01

people who are trained to

22:03

be versatile assassin send sabotage

22:05

operators They're trained in can't

22:07

surveillance, had trained in exposes,

22:09

they trained and using poison

22:11

and. To. College equipment. Actually,

22:13

it's to his inflict pain

22:15

or damage to the targets.

22:18

Gross. Have works with our

22:20

collaborators on this report, a

22:22

magazine called The Insider and

22:24

Germany's Der Spiegel. He

22:27

has a long track record

22:29

uncovering Russian documents and gross

22:31

have says he sound one

22:33

that made link to nine

22:35

one five five Two and

22:37

directed energy weapon. And when

22:40

I saw it, I literally had tears in my

22:42

eyes because it was spelling out what they had

22:44

been doing. It's. A piece of

22:46

accounting. An. Officer of to

22:48

nine one five five received

22:51

a bonus for work on

22:53

quote. Potential. Capabilities

22:55

of non lethal acoustic

22:57

weapons which told us

22:59

that this particularly on

23:01

at had been engaged

23:03

with somewhere somehow empirical

23:05

tests of. A. Directed Energy

23:08

Unit. There it is there. It is written

23:10

down and black and white. It's the closest

23:12

to a receipts you can have for this.

23:15

We've. Also found that Russia's

23:17

to Nine one five Five

23:19

may have been present in

23:21

Tbilisi, Georgia when Americans reported

23:24

incidents their. Do. You believe

23:26

that you were attacked? Absolutely.

23:29

She asked us to withhold her name

23:31

for her safety. She's. The

23:33

wife of the Justice Department official

23:35

who was with the embassy in

23:37

Tbilisi. She's. A nurse

23:40

with a Phd in anesthesiology,

23:43

On. October seventh, Twenty Twenty One. She

23:45

says that she was in her

23:47

laundry room. When. She was blindsided

23:49

by a sound. As. I'm

23:52

reaching and to the dryer on

23:54

I am. Completely.

23:56

Consumed by a piercing sound

23:58

of that I can the

24:00

only describe as. When.

24:03

You listen to a movie

24:06

and the main character is.

24:09

Also. Consumed by the sound after.

24:11

A bomb goes off. That.

24:14

Is similar to the Sound. The I

24:16

heard and it just. Pierce.

24:18

My ears came in my left

24:21

side. Felt. Like it came

24:23

through the window into my left

24:25

ear. I immediately self fullness in

24:27

my head and just a piercing

24:30

headache. And when I

24:32

realized that I needed to get out of

24:34

the laundry room. I. Have. Left.

24:37

The room and when and

24:39

to our bedroom next door

24:41

and projectile vomit is in

24:44

our bathroom. We have

24:46

learned that hers was the

24:48

second incident that week. Sources

24:51

tell laws earlier in the

24:53

neighborhood or Us official their

24:55

spouse and child were hit.

24:58

We. Have also learned of a

25:00

phone call it was intercepted nearby.

25:03

A man says in Russian. Is

25:05

it supposed to have blinking green

25:08

lights? And. Should I leave

25:10

it on all night? We.

25:12

Have no idea what he was

25:14

talking about. But the next day

25:17

the incidents began. Sources:

25:20

Tell us that an

25:22

investigation centered on this

25:24

Russian. Albert a very

25:26

on off. His name

25:28

on travel manifests in phone

25:30

records appears alongside known members

25:33

of Unit To Nine, One

25:35

Five Five. He. Is also.

25:38

The. Son of the commander. He

25:40

was groomed to become a member

25:42

of units since he was sixteen.

25:45

His numbers in the phone books of

25:47

all members of the unit clearly his

25:49

more than just the some of the

25:51

boss. He's a colleague of these people.

25:54

Grew. Said sound Alberta very own

25:56

offs phone was turned off during

25:58

the two Billie. The incidents.

26:01

But. Our sources say there is

26:03

evidence someone in Tbilisi. Logged.

26:06

Into a very on offs person or

26:09

email during this time. Most.

26:11

Likely gross. Have believes a very

26:13

on off himself. Placing:

26:15

Him in the city. We.

26:17

Believe members of unit to offer five

26:19

were there in order to facilitate. Supervise.

26:22

Or maybe even personally

26:24

implement attacks on American

26:26

diplomats and American government

26:29

officials using. An acoustic

26:31

weapon, After you were able

26:33

to get out of the laundry room call

26:35

your husband for did you do then. I

26:38

went downstairs. I first looked on our

26:40

security. Camera which is right. The side

26:43

our front door to see if

26:45

anyone was outside. There was a

26:47

vehicle right outside of our. Gate I

26:49

took a photo of that vehicle.

26:52

And notice the it was not a

26:54

vehicle that I recognize and I went

26:56

outside. Did you see anyone around the

26:59

vehicle? I did. We

27:01

sent you a photograph of

27:03

Albert. A very on off.

27:06

And this is the picture that we

27:08

sent you. is it. And I wonder

27:10

if that looks anything like the man

27:12

you saw outside your home. It

27:15

absolutely does. And when

27:17

I received this. Soto I

27:20

had a visceral reaction

27:22

that. Made me feel sick.

27:26

I. Can are absolutely say for certain

27:28

see that it is this man but

27:30

I can tell you. That

27:33

even so this day looking at Han.

27:37

Makes. Me: Feel.

27:39

That same visceral reaction

27:41

and I can absolutely

27:43

say that this. Looks.

27:46

Like the man that I saw on the street. This.

27:48

Forty year old wife and mother.

27:51

Was. Among the most severely injured

27:53

people we have met. My

27:56

him. Headaches and

27:58

brain fog continues. Later.

28:00

On in to that weekend I.

28:03

Started having trouble walking. Down the

28:05

stairs. specifically. at night. I had

28:07

trouble finding the steps to get

28:10

down the stairs so my coordination

28:12

and vestibule. Or system started

28:14

just really falling apart. She.

28:17

Was medically evacuated and now

28:19

doctors say she has holes

28:21

in her inner ear canals,

28:23

the vestibule or system that

28:26

creates the sense of balance.

28:28

Two. Surgeries put metal plates

28:31

in her skull. Another

28:33

surgery is likely. It's

28:36

devastating. It's

28:38

absolutely deaths and. Despite.

28:41

Experiences like hers. The

28:43

office of the Director

28:45

of National Intelligence said

28:47

last year it's very

28:49

unlikely of foreign adversaries

28:51

responsible. Bought. The D

28:54

and I also acknowledge that

28:56

some intelligence agencies had only

28:58

low or moderate confidence in

29:00

that assessment. This. Month,

29:02

the National Institutes of Health

29:05

reported results of brain scans

29:07

and I ate said there's

29:10

no evidence of physical damage,

29:12

but the medical science of

29:15

so cold anomalous health incidents

29:17

remains vigorously debated. For.

29:19

It's part the Director of

29:22

National Intelligence says the symptoms

29:24

probably results. From. Pre

29:27

existing conditions, conventional

29:29

illnesses, and environmental

29:31

factors. Attorney Mark

29:33

Zaid represents more than two dozen

29:35

a h I can see. What

29:38

do you make of the Intelligence community?

29:40

Assessment? So. I've had

29:43

access to classified information relating to

29:45

age I. I. Can't reveal it.

29:47

I wouldn't reveal it. I. Will

29:49

tell you that I don't believe

29:51

it to be the entire story

29:53

and I know of information. That.

29:58

Undermines. Or contradict. What?

30:01

They are saying publicly, are you saying

30:03

that the government wants to cover this

30:05

up. There. Is

30:07

in my view, without a doubt, evidence

30:09

of a cover up? Now some of

30:11

that cover up is not necessarily that.

30:14

Oh, We. Found a weapon. And.

30:17

We don't want anybody know about. What?

30:19

I've seen more so is.

30:22

We. See. Lines. Of

30:24

Inquiry. That. Would.

30:26

Take us. Potentially. To

30:29

answers we don't want to have

30:31

to deal with. So

30:33

we're not going to explore any

30:35

of those avenues, you know, If

30:39

my mother had seen what I

30:41

saw. She. Would say it's the

30:43

Russians stupid. Grigg! A

30:45

green who ran the military

30:47

investigation told us he had

30:49

the Pentagon support. But. In

30:52

the Trump and Biden Administration's

30:54

he says the bar for

30:56

proof was set impossibly high.

30:59

I. Think he was set so high. Because.

31:02

We did not as a country

31:04

and a government. Wants to

31:07

cease some very hard truths?

31:09

And four them. Can. We

31:11

secure America. Are. These

31:14

massive counter intelligence failures. Can.

31:16

We protect American soil and are

31:18

people on American soil. Are.

31:21

We being the tax. And

31:23

if we're being attacked, is that an

31:26

act of war? After

31:28

what he learned in his classified

31:30

investigation. Greg. And Green

31:32

retired from the army to

31:34

start a company to help

31:36

the victims. He hopes to

31:38

channel government contracts into treatment

31:40

programs. As with

31:43

all spy stories, much is

31:45

classified, and what remains is

31:47

circumstantial. None of the

31:49

witnesses tonight wanted to speak. Some

31:52

fear for their families. But

31:54

all felt compelled to shine a

31:56

light on what they see as

31:59

a war of shadow. a war

32:01

America. May. Not be winning. If

32:04

this is what we've seen with the

32:06

hundreds of case of anomalous health visitors,

32:08

I can assure that this has become

32:11

probably put his biggest victory In his

32:13

own mind, this has been. Russia's

32:16

biggest victory against the

32:18

West. In. Terms of the

32:20

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32:22

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Monday. A

34:05

horse has played a central role in

34:07

the history and mythology of many Native

34:09

American tribes. The. Sony Crow, Black

34:12

Sea Sue, and other tribes first

34:14

saw horses when Spaniards brought them

34:16

to this continent five hundred years

34:18

ago and of use them in

34:21

hunting and in battle ever since.

34:24

collectively. These tribes call

34:26

themselves the Horse Nations. As.

34:28

You're about to see men and

34:30

women from those tribes also use

34:33

horses in a sport that sense

34:35

of dub America's original extreme sport.

34:38

The. Tribes call it Indian. Really?

34:41

It's. Roots date back centuries and

34:43

is one of the most exciting,

34:45

dangerous, and inspiring things you're ever

34:48

likely to see. What

34:53

he circumstances, he starts at the

34:55

start in Indian. Really as many

34:57

as six thoroughbred resources are brought

35:00

to a start line drawn in

35:02

the dirt, the horses or bear

35:04

back know settles or stirrups. Their

35:07

writers were no protective gear at

35:09

the sound of a warm. The

35:13

leap a board and tear down the

35:15

try. To

35:20

actually get on a horse their back and

35:22

run as fast as you can around. Is

35:27

easy That easy? Yeah, Kin

35:30

real bird is a sort of senior

35:32

statesmen as Indian really. And

35:35

announces races all over the American

35:38

West. These horses are able to

35:40

run like you wouldn't believe. But

35:47

the hard part comes from. Jumping

35:50

off week was after the

35:52

Writers race one lap around

35:54

the half mile trek. They

36:00

all speed into a sort of

36:02

a coin pit road were teammates

36:04

are waiting with fresh horses for

36:07

what's known as the Exchange. So

36:12

he has to come in gear down enough.

36:15

And. Then angle that horse is. A

36:19

good sauce and takes. One to

36:21

three steps and he gone to the

36:23

bath. A dead horse. Oh

36:29

there he goes. Kin

36:33

real bird make said flying leap

36:35

from one horse to another sounds

36:37

simple. It

36:40

is not. It's more like a

36:42

dangerous, chaotic dance with riders and

36:44

courses from six teams all trying

36:47

to do the same thing at

36:49

the same time in the same

36:51

space. You

36:54

have what they called a set of man. Their

36:59

job primarily. Is

37:01

the have that horse in a proper

37:03

position as a writer comes in. Simultaneously,

37:07

you have a guy who's usually

37:09

a nibble guy on his seat

37:12

and he's got a headset horse

37:14

coming in at fifteen miles an

37:16

hour. That

37:22

horse. he really doesn't care

37:24

about your feelings. A

37:30

third member of the pit crew

37:33

is holding the third force because

37:35

the riders must do another leap

37:37

for another last. It's

37:41

exciting. But. It's it's

37:43

dangerous to them down. A

37:48

lot in. Almost

37:52

every he will have some of the

37:54

guys getting run over. Can

37:59

you imagine the from. Line of Kansas

38:01

City Chiefs all combined and

38:03

wanted just run over you.

38:08

That's what is going to feel like because

38:10

that horses. A. Thousand pounds,

38:14

Injuries to both horses and humans

38:16

are part of the sports. The

38:18

team the best avoid collisions and

38:20

wins that third lap on a

38:22

third horse can be forgiven for

38:24

showing off at the cities of

38:26

our. Can

38:29

Real Bird says the roots of

38:32

modern Indian really are in the

38:34

for stealing reads: the tribes once

38:36

staged against white settlers and each

38:38

other. These young men is

38:40

a very different. Nations would travel what

38:43

it was middle of the night they

38:45

would come and take that price horse.

38:48

And hide tell it back to their

38:50

home country. A chaise horses

38:52

as they were running cause they

38:54

were being pursued. And

38:56

so that's pretty much the origin

38:58

of the indeed, really. A

39:01

sport that we know today. Races.

39:03

In the organized sports were first

39:06

conducted in the early nineteen hundreds.

39:09

When. It first started out of the majority

39:11

of races were happening and in more in

39:13

within their own communities made of communities on

39:15

and reservations. I've. Seen some

39:17

races: Kelvin Gooseberries a member of

39:20

the Some Tribe seven he eats

39:22

and president of an organization called

39:24

the Horse Nations Indian Really Council.

39:31

What we do a force nations as

39:33

we basically took a lot of the

39:35

the races that world within the tribal

39:37

nations brought him out into the mainstream.

39:40

Now we're bringing on to bigger states. Last

39:46

summer's. Indian really circuit crisscross

39:48

the west and climaxed and

39:50

casper Wyoming with a three

39:52

day championship present that celebrated

39:55

tribal culture and song. And

39:59

from. And dance

40:01

and offered more than one

40:03

hundred thousand dollars in prize

40:05

money thanks to sponsorship from

40:08

a casino own by the

40:10

Northern Arapaho tribe. Is

40:13

it included a women's division? It's

40:18

cheap laughs and two horses rather than

40:20

the three and three and mins races.

40:25

with the athleticism and dangerous

40:27

are every bit as evidence.

40:32

There's also a kids Indian really?

40:35

Set with writers as young

40:38

as six, racing on ponies,

40:40

climbing on and falling off.

40:45

Those are the guys that grow up

40:47

to be the great writers. that great

40:49

set up. men because they're all horseman

40:51

and it's like that in every reservation.

40:56

On the Bless Seed Reservation in

40:59

Montana we met Urban Carlson and

41:01

his son Says who have been

41:03

competing in Indian Relays four years.

41:07

Chairs is one of the most seasoned riders

41:09

on the summer circuit. For

41:12

really making it good

41:14

into sports practice, practice

41:16

practice and years of

41:18

experience. Another

41:25

team we follow through the summer circuits

41:27

is led by twenty three year old

41:30

Tuesday Washington from the Sunni Tribe in

41:32

Wyoming. For

41:34

younger sister, Zero is the writer

41:36

for their women's team booze seal

41:39

a close connection to their horses.

41:42

And or Monday and as

41:45

is not going away. Him

41:47

while an intentional or thing

41:49

rather than things and things

41:52

seem to be better says

41:54

adding that his How this.

41:58

Loosen. The Lid room. The same

42:00

bond and obligation to care for his

42:03

horse. It's really sad, especially because we're

42:05

all here for one purpose. and it's

42:07

it's the horse setting up over his

42:10

Mason hails from the Crew Creek Sioux

42:12

Reservation in South Dakota. When

42:15

I was younger as I didn't

42:17

know widens to feel such anger

42:19

and animosity towards my own people.

42:21

I I didn't want to be

42:23

Native American and as a horse

42:25

helped me you know reconnect with

42:27

my culture and be proud of

42:29

land and proud of where I'm

42:31

from. Are you feeling you didn't

42:33

like being a Native American burner?

42:35

Where I'm from on the reservation

42:37

you see a lot of things

42:39

that make you not proud of

42:41

why I'm from alcoholism, drug addicts

42:43

and drug abuse or suicide. Suicide

42:45

rates on the reservation or

42:48

four five times the national

42:50

average my father or the

42:52

content alcoholism. So

42:54

it really hit home. And said the

42:56

horse seem to realize yep this is

42:58

sensitive You think it does your for

43:00

lot of young. Need American Faisal?

43:02

There's a lot of kids out there

43:04

that are just that are just looking

43:06

for for that doorway. There's

43:10

little glamour in Indian relate and

43:12

lots of hard work. Every team

43:14

is so funded and nearly everyone

43:16

has a day job to help

43:19

pay the bills, but the sport

43:21

is on the rise. Prize money

43:23

is increasing and sixty seven teams

43:26

competed in last summer's championships. In.

43:30

The quality of horses is rising

43:32

to. Team's

43:35

screwed a major restricts like Churchill

43:37

Downs home of the Kentucky Derby

43:40

to buy sprinters well suited to

43:42

Indian. really. Cadets.

43:45

That would be the ultimate. A.

43:47

Demonstration race before the

43:49

Derby. That. Would be. A

43:52

d my goal loss. Each.

44:00

He competed in once each

44:02

day of the championships. There

44:04

cumulative time from the first

44:06

two days determine whether they

44:08

made the final championship heat

44:10

on Sunday. Is

44:13

the race usually won or lost?

44:16

In the exchange? Yeah, It's

44:21

like a really team beaten

44:23

track and field, but his

44:25

Indian really exchanges involves six

44:27

riders. He can forces eighteen

44:29

other humans and a cloud

44:32

of dust from what I've

44:34

seen as like chaos. chaos.

44:37

And apply to be on. Tuesday

44:41

was a keys women's team made

44:43

the championship seat and Casper. And

44:47

her sister Zero had a clean exchange

44:49

in that race. They finished a close

44:51

second out of a demoralized or is

44:54

it makes me more determined than me.

44:56

My parents have ya hear? Mad as

44:58

Hell by. The

45:04

first place women's relay team came

45:06

from the cool though reservation in

45:08

Washington State with rider to lead

45:10

time. And why is this your

45:12

first championship. Won the

45:14

first one. All right,

45:17

Sixteen and older. you

45:19

know, Seventeen. Seventeen. Are

45:22

you going through it again? Next year he had

45:24

been a good advice I can I wanted. To

45:28

see before we had was to Leo

45:31

winner He. Was. Her arms raised

45:33

in a pose, triumphs and string.

45:36

It is how we conduct to

45:38

the warriors of the pass. The.

45:41

Warriors of two hundred years ago. It's.

45:44

That same bloodline of that warrior. That.

45:46

Is was cursing through their blood. Over

45:51

three days since. We

45:55

watched Mason, Red Wing and his

45:57

team though some dirt pounding frustration

45:59

when an exchange went wrong. To

46:04

exhortation as another went right.

46:08

Says were always searching for that perfect

46:11

around. They didn't quite

46:13

find it in the finals. The

46:18

team that did. Was

46:21

the one we first met months earlier

46:23

on the Black Seed Reservation. Irvin Carlson

46:25

and his son says so we will

46:27

follow a new like all summer. I

46:29

used a combination of everything you've done

46:32

all all your social disease bragging rights

46:34

for a year or wire or as.

46:37

Far. As

46:40

a tribal elders sang a traditional

46:42

free. So in honor of their

46:44

victory and organizers presented them with

46:46

a check for twenty thousand dollars.

46:51

We noticed a group of kids

46:53

at the real on their ponies

46:55

watching intently. What? The

46:57

horse dung for me I know the horse

47:00

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47:02

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47:04

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Most christians today is Easter

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resurrection. Of the triumph of

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light over darkness. And. Although

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Orthodox christians won't celebrate Easter

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for another month, It

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isn't orthodox place of worship that

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comes to mind. St. Nicholas

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Greek Orthodox Church and

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Shrine in Lower Manhattan.

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We. Told the story of the resurrection

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of St. Nicholas. Back and twenty twenty.

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One. St. Tavern. The church lived

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in the shadow of the World

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Trade Center and nearly died under

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it's rubble on September eleventh. Two

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thousand and one. Kept.

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Alive only by the face

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and hope of it's tiny

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congregation and the charity have

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a much wider community. Today

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the new St. Nicholas. it's

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dome a glow with an

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