While the Saw franchise would later go on to be defined by blood and guts and 3D gimmicks, Arthur and Andrew really admire the genuine tension and horror of the first film. We discuss the successful career of James Wan, how horror films have changed since Saw, and the "gamification" of watching films.

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• Where to watch Saw
• Roger Ebert's review
• The love triangle trap
• The carousel trap
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