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Okay, Let's get into it. Or
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I welcome back to a week
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i think series of at the
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coaches around table or right. So
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last week we talked about. Writing.
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Letters to are idiots see and
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talking about lesser relationship that we
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have a with our A D
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H D N How important it
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is to address some emotional issues
3:42
around. Or. A D C
3:45
in order to reread make sense
3:47
of any of the planning and
3:49
productivity. Type stuff. So.
3:52
This weekend group we're talking about
3:54
to do lists, so how's that?
3:56
been going so far in your
3:58
sections? Christened Brian. I might
4:00
point out. I just
4:02
I put this into context of the structure. A
4:05
group. We do talk a lot about the underlying
4:07
most of his business I experienced because that has
4:09
needs to be addressed. but this is also a
4:11
productivity base course where we have a lot of
4:14
good activity tools. Will we take you know tools
4:16
that were already familiar with things? like to do
4:18
lists and reimagine them and reengineer them to work
4:20
better. For a D H D brains I always
4:23
ask folks at the like stuff. Bomb. I thought
4:25
you guys would ask with the being in possession
4:27
of might. Okay, where did everyone learn how to
4:29
use it to do list? And
4:31
no one ever has an answer to
4:33
that question. The real answer as we
4:35
been mimicking how we see other people
4:37
using them our whole lives. but those
4:39
people are probably know typical. why would
4:41
we expect to have a tool that's
4:43
designed for a nerd Sprinkle the designed
4:45
by and foreigner typical people work the
4:47
same way for us as it does
4:49
on of a for a aid know
4:51
a typical person so that's why we
4:53
start from So then we start picking
4:55
it apart and looking a different way
4:58
to do and for the general structure
5:00
of our course we go through. Them.
5:02
And but we're not just talking about productivity
5:04
tools. Whenever we try to change a habit
5:06
or behavior, something has been reinforced. There's always
5:08
gonna be some kind of pushed back some
5:10
defensiveness where it's happy were attacked, were contradicting
5:13
people's defense mechanisms about this a baby's obscene
5:15
triggers, so other coaching things always come up
5:17
around it so we can do those two
5:19
things at the same time. We coach around
5:22
productivity tools and that, but we also coached
5:24
about what comes up when we talk about
5:26
the productivity tools. But to answer your question,
5:28
it's been going great. We had a really
5:31
great session. Today I really like to do
5:33
to the to do with the because we
5:35
get. This is what the first half of
5:37
the apples we get to bring people's real
5:39
life data into coaching. I've asked people i
5:41
prop them the week before to make if
5:43
you've already using it to do list, bring
5:45
a man with, look at the real examples
5:47
and workshop with them and and we also
5:49
have a future where in our accountability teams
5:51
which we rolled out last week also. ah
5:53
we have people posting a daily top three
5:55
as it exists outside simplified to do with
5:57
and at this provides an opportunity to. The
6:00
structure but. It also gives us an
6:02
opportunity to group workshop how we're using
6:04
that tool, so this actually turns into
6:06
a really lively discussion and as it
6:08
did for me to net for yeah.
6:11
Yeah. This is I told them
6:13
last night this is one of my favorite
6:15
sessions and. And. I I went
6:18
to add t with are a team rollout
6:20
which happened at the beginning of the week.
6:22
We talked a lot about accountability t so
6:24
we kind of guide them with that ramp
6:26
into. Her. We accountable to
6:29
or to their lists and my
6:31
group latched on to the question
6:33
of and maybe I did this
6:35
on purpose and not Sir x
6:37
We asked them how old is
6:39
your oldest. Item.
6:42
And. Ah, Man,
6:44
the vulnerability that came
6:47
out. The. Shares the
6:49
same that sailed the room
6:51
that we into that we
6:53
jokes exploring around. What
6:56
can we do with the same
6:59
And. Why is that
7:01
same there? And you know he does.
7:03
It has to be. Those
7:05
things and how is it help
7:07
you progressed forward some of really
7:09
nice summer no good. fifteen minutes
7:11
or so ago was pretty through
7:13
the last stuff but that's what
7:15
group is all about. It's finding
7:17
out. Where is this group Each
7:20
section. Each. Session
7:22
can feel different. Every.
7:24
Season. And that's.
7:26
What's kind of magical about it on
7:28
it Just so happened there were a
7:30
good handful of people who did sir
7:32
outwardly and I'm sure lost a lot
7:34
of nodding had sued for think in
7:36
of those things that I got of
7:38
got one on seven years old and
7:41
I still have to do it there's
7:43
you know or the outcome is to
7:45
her renders kind of thing. Ah so
7:47
yeah. It was. It
7:49
was nice it was. It was a
7:51
little different for for me my experience
7:53
with to do lists on yeah. And.
7:56
Always if you know every every session I've
7:58
done of the this. The. That's the
8:01
recession. The. Way.
8:04
To resonate in challenges.
8:06
Members. The. The
8:09
range of huge. I like. we
8:11
had a clear someone who is saying that
8:13
on say I. I just don't get the
8:15
feeling of satisfaction when I cross, have enough
8:17
to do less and less. I'm like I
8:19
as a group. how many people fearing that
8:21
as well And there are a number of
8:23
people who like, yeah, it's it's like. A
8:26
has just recently got done and I'm with ya. I.
8:29
Ah at somewhere else who is like a
8:31
A A don't like doing to do it
8:34
say it's I get feels like A since
8:36
it's something that I write down to do
8:38
like I am media read, still resistance towards
8:40
it and it's like. Okay, like.
8:43
These. Are assholes. Experiences.
8:46
That a lot of people have arm and
8:48
we bought our people who have is complex
8:50
systems are working for them in our and
8:52
we always tell people to to wherever you
8:55
are that's a restart. right?
8:57
And I'm one of the tools
8:59
that that I created on is
9:01
this diagnostic assessment of your to
9:03
do it to us and meet
9:06
me. Point of it is to
9:08
be able to identify where are
9:10
those areas of the to do
9:12
list that may benefit from some
9:14
additional focus because everyone's going to
9:16
have some different things on our
9:19
to do list that that challenges
9:21
them. But what I'm are big
9:23
focuses on this exercise is about
9:25
the language that we. Use and
9:27
as good as something it's. It's.
9:30
Sorta like this. them. You're. Borrowing
9:32
from us, some of that though worked
9:34
I used to do in an Autism
9:36
on the around like a hidden curriculum
9:38
for dead. For social stuff I feel
9:40
like this is the say it's like
9:42
to productivity version of that for a
9:44
D H D it's like that. the
9:46
hidden tricky Okay here we took glossy
9:48
like common things we see on and
9:50
eighty two years to do lists. Doctor.
9:55
But. I what the hell is that
9:57
means renewed at a time we wrote down, but
9:59
it's. There are moments for three years, three
10:01
to have no idea where luxury names anymore
10:04
and maybe don't even realize that we don't
10:06
know where actually means anymore. I
10:08
it could be from yesterday he put
10:11
doctor and if you have more than
10:13
one doctor. Tomorrow.
10:15
You might not know what that means. Or
10:18
him guys are you? I like the way
10:20
I different. I start with the a couple
10:22
examples of those a doctor or one word
10:25
things. He bought a brand that I say
10:27
okay what happens when you encounter that? What
10:29
is the what would how would you describe
10:31
the mental process with your counter? That and
10:33
it's like usually people stumble, they get confused
10:35
by the question, but then they realize you
10:37
have to expend mental energy to figure out
10:39
what doctor means. And the more energy you
10:41
have to expand just to get started, the
10:43
less likely you are to activate on it.
10:45
So where does the net? We started a
10:48
tragedy. Spotted we make this easier for us
10:50
to interpret other we instead of the doctors
10:52
cryptic out a week as specificity and context
10:54
is that is what I make. That kind
10:56
of makes it a lot easier for us
10:58
to activate on it. On
11:00
a sunny share with last night around
11:02
Vision burbs again and then we into
11:04
the sec concept yet asked me did
11:06
sir you said Vision Barbs and minutes
11:08
ago yet let me quickly the sign
11:10
that says. He out of
11:13
the people who look at productivity stuff
11:15
they'd asked talk about verb your to
11:17
do list or make them you action
11:20
oriented. The. Problem with that, Humans
11:22
were being. Or. To do this
11:24
and just just have a regular verb. Is.
11:26
Things like looked into his
11:29
kind of herb an hour
11:31
or talk to is a
11:33
verb. But. That doesn't actually tell
11:35
you what needs to happen explicitly And so
11:37
he had this idea of a vision verve.
11:39
So instead of a look up or find
11:41
out which yeah I'm at and year and
11:44
see right now if you'll have to my
11:46
to do was I probably have a look
11:48
into were assigned now amount of us right
11:50
now of. By. Google is
11:52
a better vision burrow because it
11:54
gives you the exact context of
11:56
where you need to be. For.
11:59
The actions of. Place right? Incidentally,
12:01
talk to it's there.
12:04
Were. No call, text email like
12:06
how is that? Disgusting.
12:08
As a place or it.is a
12:10
beautiful lead in I asked somebody
12:13
to the if they had doctor.
12:15
What? We? What could you say different way
12:17
you know if he and one of my
12:19
member says contact the doctor and I went.
12:22
Home. For
12:25
yeah, I get a wrestler, get a ruckus. Are
12:27
you planning to write him a letter? Or rather,
12:29
I don't. Really, I. Just yelled out ago I
12:31
tried to contact Dr. Harrison. They were at
12:33
first as a semi beloved right away. Some
12:35
people with it. it's just like. It. With
12:37
my H D impulse. Funny bone was
12:40
on it and a with it. So
12:45
I was like see that example he
12:47
contacted also be. I touch
12:49
them. You can continue to vision
12:51
it even more. Ever time
12:54
for an how many people to be
12:56
to be experience where their be by
12:58
have call him call make an appointment
13:00
to get it for a dental cleaning
13:02
My great. And they'll find out
13:04
that with a really me to do. Is.
13:07
Vignettes on a dentist We have a
13:09
dentist like that is a completely different
13:11
tasks the scheduling an appointment or and
13:13
so will the is this idea of
13:16
he married me up to do with
13:18
looks of things like that so be
13:20
of these bees vision verbs revealing what
13:22
is that First acts step was it
13:24
really? Then we have some of that
13:26
the to had conceptual art pieces like
13:28
what's what actually need to take place.
13:31
We talked a lot about the the
13:33
that is this than that. Eyes.
13:35
Are framework with in a to the
13:37
less you know it's funny because of
13:39
how frustrating is it When we have
13:41
a tasks to do and then we
13:43
do, the task analysis generates another task.
13:45
Anything to normalize that experience I'd say
13:47
bases covered melting tasks off the great
13:49
tasks Redeployed House you know you have
13:51
another task and so even as simple
13:53
as like. The. Whatever that the
13:55
task is. In part of what
13:58
you write on a task is. The
14:00
once it that domestic then identify
14:02
the next task so you've already
14:04
sort of scaffolding that next step
14:06
for yourself. The one of my
14:08
great example that I just stuck
14:10
with every time. Is and we talked about
14:12
the same that with coming up for people and sometimes just
14:15
the dread of doing things like we don't let it make
14:17
a phone call the and put on hold while that and.
14:20
Made. We don't like going to the death.
14:22
We finally got the courage and we found
14:24
a little pocket a time and I'm going
14:26
to call make an appointment for then and
14:28
even if it's a month away sometimes dentist
14:30
or schedule and out too much and you
14:32
can't go. Okay I'm excited. Want to make
14:34
an appointment an arm when a look at
14:36
this day and this afternoon and the next
14:38
thing you hear is i'm sorry Doctor Harris
14:40
doesn't see patients on Thursday afternoon. And
14:43
you have nothing ready for the is this.
14:45
Is Right series. Of
14:48
and Eleven. Call you back in July. But yeah,
14:50
that's a bigger tasks and go. And okay, let
14:52
me shift. I've got some other options here. What?
14:54
What else can offer us for you
14:57
to view on us we'll have their
14:59
the wide difference of including the why?
15:01
Oh yeah I love a good why
15:03
stay man. I bought by statements I
15:05
don't contain. It's a week three I
15:07
find buys epitomised able to their almost
15:09
very many different conversations or why statement
15:12
is something that gets us in touch
15:14
with why it's important to us which
15:16
could prompt a and emotional reaction prompt
15:18
emotional investment with a baby. That connection
15:20
is a clear A D H D
15:22
Folks we often habits have difficult time
15:25
activating. On Tacit Six much more energy
15:27
bras to do that either a typical
15:29
person the one where we didn't make
15:31
it easier is to reduce executive function
15:34
needed or but also to boost the
15:36
emotional investment by reminding ourselves why it's
15:38
important or and that can get us
15:41
back in there. I had i'm a
15:43
coaching fired who had been struggling to
15:45
that or whatever repeating to do items
15:48
on her west was I get a
15:50
schedule a veterinary appointment for her cats
15:52
and she just female be forgetting. About
15:55
it over and over she had a same as
15:57
you about it, felt terrible about it and and
15:59
so we broke. The down the to jews had
16:01
a schedule that but I said why is this
16:03
important to you and she's as well. As.
16:06
She just does. I could never even contemplated
16:08
why it's important. It's obvious, but it's obvious,
16:11
but it's in the background. Spare what's bring
16:13
it out of the background to be like,
16:15
what? Obvious. Because I love my cats. And
16:18
you know what? She. Came to the next
16:21
next week at the one thing she tucked
16:23
into said i totally schedule those appointment I
16:25
love that allows that. And you
16:27
have Ah Russell Market talks about the
16:29
different ah yes sir the networks and
16:31
what this does. The identifies what he
16:34
calls the hot network. where does the
16:36
he can next to that emotional part
16:38
of our brain and in er er
16:41
mig a lot of emotional responses to
16:43
prefrontal cortex to it connects the why
16:45
to the what. One. Of its
16:47
challenges with a D H D and
16:49
also one of those, the positive part
16:51
of a D C is when our
16:54
why is super clear. Watch. Out
16:56
collectors it's hard to interfere where we
16:58
have a clear why are we will
17:00
get the thing done. We have passion
17:02
behind what we're doing. What? Happens
17:05
is we put something on to do us. In
17:07
the moment we may be understand why
17:09
this important. And then
17:11
we think we still remember rides and four
17:13
and a week or two later on were
17:16
looking at the task and not realizing we
17:18
as we don't So it's a former scaffolding
17:20
to include the why I'm to Do list.
17:22
And does it take a little bit longer
17:24
to write the stuff out? Yeah. But.
17:26
Think about how long we've sort of
17:29
russell with things that are just pick
17:31
in Iran and or to do list
17:33
or even worse off than a so
17:35
many times are all start working on
17:37
a task that I've already done. Analysts
17:39
are not across that asked them as
17:41
it brings up that metaphor I love
17:43
were a blinking was tell had four
17:45
hours scout shut down the street he
17:48
spent three hours. Sharpening is at. The
17:51
caf smooth and easy. that tree went down. In
17:53
just an hour then that's kind of.
17:55
that, really sits. In with the
17:57
to do list semi activate me.
18:00
I five what I like the whole idea
18:02
of engaging the why we were talking to
18:04
be Adidas as of this recording in the
18:06
previous recording about the importance of addressing are
18:08
underlying emotional needs that instead did the way
18:10
that can obstruct are executive functions Here we
18:12
also addressed the reciprocal a week and half
18:14
or engage with those most supported the give
18:16
us activation energy So there's two sides of
18:18
the of the coin their of the equation
18:21
there's a bush's can stand in our way
18:23
if they are bushel with my baggage to
18:25
send in a way of we're not addressing
18:27
it's but we can also use it as
18:29
leverage it to. Our and man it's. Absolutely
18:32
and as as subsidy and in a
18:34
one of the things I. Tell.
18:36
People in group has no almost every
18:38
season to be like seems like so
18:40
many extra staff to do and that.
18:43
Yeah. And I think about
18:45
what was the trade off. And.
18:48
I'll always increase he was right now. We're him, learn
18:50
or mode. Try. These things
18:52
out experiment with it as healthy
18:54
to light. Once. You
18:56
really get the hang of this. You'll
18:58
figure out what kinds of tasks. Are
19:01
really beneficial to include all this other
19:03
stuff and and what kinds of of
19:06
tests. Can. You break all the ruins but
19:08
are now and down because you know exactly what does he
19:10
need to meet? deal. And. Painless.
19:12
Think about this a different way. He.
19:14
Can spin sign on the front end or
19:16
you can spend time that the emotions get
19:18
more involved on the the other end. You.
19:21
Still going to spend the same. Much time in one
19:23
of them to make still bad. Yeah,
19:25
initially when we do it or not, the. Far.
19:27
End of it. It ends up. Taking. More
19:30
time and more executive function. Which.
19:32
Will lead us to and next week
19:35
for we talk about these are the
19:37
foundation of. D. The weekly planning
19:39
with looking at our routines as
19:41
we know we're gonna do our
19:43
bar stuff in the morning doesn't
19:45
make sense to change this. This
19:47
sequence of what we do have
19:49
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