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an episode. We know the starting

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get started. All right. Welcome back

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to another episode of ADHD Rewired

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coaches around table edition. So

1:15

we are right now in our word

1:17

season 36 of our coaching groups, and

1:20

we are going to be talking this week

1:22

about our word. This

1:25

week six where we talked about numbing and

1:27

self-care and some of the differences

1:31

between those two things and

1:34

sort of the impact of being

1:37

very intentional about self-care

1:39

and being more mindful about

1:41

numbing behaviors. So

1:44

hello to Coach Kristin and Coach

1:46

Brian. Hello. Hello.

1:50

So and just for

1:52

listeners and viewers, we're

1:54

kind of like a week behind doing

1:56

these, so if we're like, if there's

1:59

a. disability of us bleeding into

2:01

like next week's stuff that's just because of

2:03

our own ADHD and time. So

2:05

let's just kind of dive right in. So

2:09

one of the things that I think about when

2:11

I think about self care is

2:14

to go lens of productivity. And I

2:17

use this phrase that productivity

2:19

is the bridge

2:21

between I'm sorry, self care

2:23

is the bridge between productivity

2:26

and self care. Right?

2:29

So let's chat a bit about how that

2:31

person is set up for each of you

2:34

and how we brought that to group. Did

2:36

you say self care

2:38

is the bridge between productivity and

2:41

self care? I might

2:43

have. Yes. It's supposed to

2:45

be a thing it feels like. I don't know

2:47

how to answer the question. What

2:49

did I say? We got

2:51

the Fridays here. It's productivity.

2:54

No, self

2:56

care is the bridge between product. Oh,

2:59

shit. What is it? Intention

3:01

and productivity. Oh, I got it.

3:05

It was planning

3:07

is the bridge between productivity

3:09

and self care. Which

3:12

is really important. Yes. We're

3:15

going to leave us all in. Okay.

3:17

So yes, let's talk about that. Let's

3:19

talk about how we do planning, how

3:21

we do self care, how that's connected

3:23

and why it's so important that that's

3:26

connected versus numbing. Because some

3:28

of the behaviors that we do for each can

3:30

actually be the same. Right?

3:32

Yeah. Yeah. I

3:35

totally agree with that. I think there

3:37

is with the phrase

3:39

something you can do all things

3:41

as long as it's in moderation type

3:44

phrase. All things in

3:46

moderation, including moderation. Yeah.

3:49

I like that. That phrase that

3:52

really took your brain a lot to get there.

3:54

That planning is that bridge. Because, you

3:56

know, You

4:00

know, what I've learned and

4:02

experienced is that we tend

4:04

to ignore our self-care because

4:07

we think we don't deserve it. Or

4:09

we think we're supposed to finish all our work before

4:11

we can do anything that feels good

4:14

to us. And self-care

4:16

is that idea of rejuvenation

4:18

of allowing our brain to

4:20

rest. And we think, oh, but we

4:22

don't have everything done. So I can't do

4:24

that. I'm not allowed to. So

4:27

that planning piece in the middle,

4:30

it's putting it down. It's

4:32

adding to our intention to do it.

4:34

And it's giving, saving a space for it.

4:39

Which to me, if you put it in your

4:41

planner for Friday night, I'm

4:43

going to the movies with my

4:45

family. That's self-care to me. It's

4:47

also helping my family interaction and

4:49

dynamics and all those relationships. And

4:53

it's okay that I do it because I already have

4:55

it in my planner. I've already hashed it all out

4:57

during my planning time. And so I don't,

5:00

it releases some of that guilt that I

5:02

might feel when I go, oh, time to

5:04

leave the office, go into the movie. I

5:06

don't have to go through the ocean. I go,

5:08

should I finish? Yeah, that planning

5:10

piece has really helped that part for me.

5:13

Brian, what about for you? Well, one

5:16

of my biggest takeaways from my experience

5:18

is being originally a coaching member back

5:20

in season 22. And

5:22

when I try to convince, it sounds so

5:24

simple, but I always find myself really

5:26

working hard to get my coaching

5:28

members to see this, got

5:30

a very counterintuitive reframe that self-care

5:33

time is productive time. We like to think

5:35

of it as dead time. Oh, that's downtime.

5:38

It's me time. But I'm like, it's

5:40

also necessary for us

5:43

to be productive in the future. I think

5:45

reframe it as an investment in future productivity.

5:48

And it's not something, a lot of people say, oh, it's

5:50

good to treat yourself. But it's not really a treat. It's

5:52

a requirement. It's a need. We need as much as good

5:54

nutrition. We need it as much as exercise. The

6:00

you know all the other basic human needs

6:02

apis, punctured app, executive function and auto folks

6:04

coming years out where the some interesting I

6:06

can I have yielded. Shame Complex is about

6:09

the idea of ice. oh I'd I don't

6:11

I never have everything done so I never

6:13

schedule any self time It feels if you're

6:15

guilty or seem of me to sit down

6:17

and watch. ah you know some like binge

6:20

watched some tv show that I really want

6:22

to watch but. The

6:24

I enjoy doing is abusing I'm doing. Couldn't

6:26

have nothing but if that's an activity that

6:28

ups you unwind and helps you process and

6:30

obviously you're if you're feeling the need to

6:32

rest. The new need to rest nervous system

6:34

has decided. I'm resting now. Ah,

6:36

the difference between were transition to numbing

6:39

is how much we're doing it and

6:41

much for what reasons if we're doing

6:43

it To on mine is something we

6:45

enjoy at the end, something that rejuvenates

6:48

and replenishes us. That itself care, but

6:50

if it is. Something. That is

6:52

becoming had obstructive. It's in avoiding behavior if

6:54

we fail her. watch some Tv in there

6:56

was an episode with them. We end up

6:58

watching. You. Know Four Seasons with

7:01

the Netflix auto instead reply for

7:03

where is it is now suing

7:05

the morning and you're gonna be

7:07

sleep deprived of states that sounds

7:09

more like a numbing behavior yeah

7:11

nice absolutely and me off when

7:13

it one of the things that

7:15

we do in grew to think

7:17

is so am I really helpful

7:19

to really open up the conversation

7:21

I to these things is one

7:23

big that we have knowledge of

7:25

his coaches. Buffer

7:27

members of we all non every single

7:29

one. Of us engages in some

7:31

form of numbing behaviors Answer normalize

7:33

that and the how we do

7:35

that was we both share some

7:37

of the ways in which we

7:40

nom and sayres like one of

7:42

those kind of triggers that to

7:44

lead us to to those numbing

7:46

behavior so we can become more

7:48

aware and mine of. Oh. In

7:50

these kinds of situations or scenarios are

7:53

viruses Tendency In so much that we

7:55

talk about a group is how do

7:57

with how do we identify the tendencies.

8:00

So we can try to cut it off.

8:02

it is not serving us arm as I

8:04

think that's a really important piece to that

8:06

When you talk about the i saw a

8:09

Bernie Brown taxa was saying the only spot

8:11

owners and the light on same I can't

8:13

survive on. We are all talking about the

8:15

ways that we all know I'm in different

8:17

ways I'm it is sort of freeze people

8:19

to say you know what yeah I do

8:22

this he sings and it's it's not helping

8:24

me and you know when I do these

8:26

things sort of like secretly it's making even

8:28

worse cause it's the then the same as

8:30

is building up and then I'm having to

8:32

sit are numb even more because of the

8:35

same at it for it does create this

8:37

sort of on very vicious cycle I'm but

8:39

one of the key things that we used

8:41

moved were talking about numbing versus self care.

8:44

Is sometimes we won't know

8:46

which is which until after.

8:48

I. How do we feel? After.

8:50

The fact arm and really a

8:53

tracking our energy and room looking

8:55

at arm are are mood in

8:57

our emotions an hour able to

8:59

show up ah for the things

9:01

that we are trying to do

9:03

this using. When. Really knows

9:05

what we're doing Of effective is to

9:08

hindsight, not. Foresight known

9:10

as we to make asses and often we

9:12

are making these these guesses but not all

9:14

self care of things are just relaxing and

9:16

there's plenty of things I do in the

9:18

wrong but I call self care that I

9:21

don't enjoy doing at all like make him

9:23

at once I can I make about. I

9:25

find really annoying because I make a sale

9:27

of the have all kinds of stuff in

9:29

it off as I i it's like I'd

9:31

but I do that because not doing that

9:33

means I'm an we. Run out and get

9:36

and some crap to eat. Them Feel

9:38

bad right? I physically feel that some

9:40

know eating. Good. Food. And so

9:42

it's things like that. Things like. Planning.

9:44

Things like get my ass the bad

9:46

guys are off the common things that

9:48

people are struggle with Swim we are

9:51

talking about. Listen in the coaching groups

9:53

we normalize that we all have you

9:55

sort of. Things. That we do that

9:57

we know aren't great for us. But.

9:59

the And even for a

10:01

lot of people identifying this as, oh,

10:04

this is numbing. I thought it was

10:06

just avoidance and absolutely this

10:08

is overlap. But I think when

10:10

people get this language around it, they're able to sort

10:12

of see it more clearly and

10:15

without as much judgment, self judgment or

10:17

shame. What are you saying in your groups with that?

10:21

In the past, I will share that,

10:24

for one thing, some of my coaches in

10:27

many sections have said, oh,

10:30

I just thought I was

10:32

going shopping. I didn't realize

10:34

it was in response to reaction

10:36

to something. And they start,

10:38

you see the wheels turn, you can see it

10:40

in their eyes, they're going, if somebody else might

10:42

share, well, I know

10:45

retail therapy and yeah, and

10:47

I don't really have the money to spend or I'm just

10:49

going and buying things on the clearance aisle that I don't

10:51

really need. And

10:53

then you see this couple other people going, oh,

10:56

is that why I'm doing that? So

10:58

they're all of a sudden learning that

11:01

activities that they do as

11:03

they try to count backwards kind of

11:05

thing and go, what happened right before that? What

11:07

happened right before that? Why am I doing that?

11:10

Oh my gosh, that's the trigger. It's helping them

11:12

find out what triggers are for them. One

11:14

of the things that I point

11:16

out that is just big to

11:18

me in general is I like to

11:21

distinguish between self love and self care

11:23

because like you said, a lot of self care, there are

11:26

some things that we don't want to do. I

11:28

have sensory issues. Yeah, I want

11:30

to feel clean. I hate the

11:33

initial, I hate most of the shower. I

11:36

mean, I just do, I don't like the way it hits me.

11:38

I can't ever get the temp. I'm always like, oh,

11:40

that's too hot. Oh, wait, it's in my face. And

11:44

I never realized that I had

11:46

an aversion to it. And

11:48

so I think that's one reason I would stay in there

11:50

too long because once I was in there, I was like,

11:53

okay, good, but I don't want to get out now because

11:55

then I have to do the drying off part and that feels weird too.

11:58

And so for me. that

12:00

never felt like what I thought

12:02

the definition of self-care was, which was things I

12:04

love to do. And you hear,

12:07

so it's different for everybody. So to

12:09

me, self love is finding that space,

12:12

you know, that you don't necessarily have to do,

12:14

but doing it is

12:16

so good. And self-care to

12:18

me is kind of the

12:21

maintenance things that we do,

12:23

that we like exercise. Once I'm

12:25

exercising, I'm fine. It's the activation

12:27

to get there, even if

12:29

it's a dance class sometimes. So

12:31

sometimes it's that set up that's the hard thing

12:33

that we avoid. So

12:35

that's why I like that cleaner part for

12:37

me in particular. And I've heard some of

12:39

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12:43

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12:45

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Back. To the round. Harmless. Share

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our what we sharing group or on

14:23

these these sort of definitions. Graphing that

14:25

this lot of different working definitions. Of

14:28

their in this is reserved definitions I've come up

14:30

with. So. Self

14:32

care I define as. I. Deliver

14:34

actions that when taken, restore

14:36

and maintain physical, mental and emotional

14:39

wellbeing and vitality in order

14:41

to show up in the world

14:43

as are most authentic and

14:45

courageous cells. And. Innovate

14:47

Me see point here is

14:50

deliberate action star intentionality. Were.

14:53

Numbing, I define as

14:56

actions taken in any sense

14:58

to relieve stress and restore

15:00

well being. But. The absence

15:02

do not result in an actual

15:04

increased ability to take on the

15:07

challenges that led to that numbing

15:09

behavior For the more numbing behaviors

15:11

often leave a ceiling more depleted

15:14

and range rather than recharged. In.

15:18

I say. I think that he

15:20

even sometimes it I'm doing something

15:22

intentionally. If I got do it

15:24

longer than I intended then it's

15:26

like a yards and is a

15:29

common example. getting a lot of

15:31

us experiences Amazon it's okay I

15:33

a ten minute facebook break. I

15:37

am. so if we think about like

15:39

hour energy as like a and the

15:41

guy to monitor our gas meter it

15:43

and. And. It so that

15:45

the Sb idea of going on facebook

15:48

give yeah restores one bar of of

15:50

sort of like energy use I'm. Getting.

15:53

Also, Facebook often requires two or

15:55

three bars of our energies use

15:57

a so we realize it yet.

16:00

really well in the moment, but the actual transitioning

16:02

off of it and stopping that, that, you know,

16:04

sort of digital dopamine scroll, right?

16:06

It's end up it's a net loss.

16:08

And so it's looking at things like

16:10

that and say, Yeah, I like that

16:12

it feels good in that moment. But

16:15

as a net, is this actually helping

16:17

me? So

16:22

what were some of the things

16:24

that that in your sections did,

16:27

where you find either more resonating or were

16:30

people struggling with? I

16:32

think, I think almost

16:34

every section, it is

16:37

that discovery of, oh,

16:39

we call that numbing. I

16:41

knew I know, it's like

16:44

a give my brain a break. But in

16:46

the end, I know it's not helping me.

16:48

So it can't be self care, but they didn't

16:51

have terminology to use

16:54

around it. So I think that's one of the big

16:57

takeaways that happened for several people

16:59

in each section that I have worked

17:01

with. One of the

17:04

things that always goes off in my section is

17:06

when I ask folks to consider who

17:09

relates to the following statement. Sometimes

17:12

I do like numbing behaviors, I go on too long,

17:14

and I perceive that

17:16

as a function of willpower. If only

17:18

I had more willpower, I would be

17:20

doing my productive work

17:22

instead of sitting here watching TV. It's

17:25

because of my defective character, my veneit,

17:28

veneit traits. And I would say,

17:30

what if I told you it's actually based on our

17:32

biology, and that's when I see people start perking up.

17:34

And then I explain to them, there's the role of

17:36

like the way our

17:38

brain regulates dopamine and how we have to get the,

17:41

I know this is kind of tangential to our, not

17:43

from this week, but another topic, I'd be at news, how

17:46

we can get our emotional system engaged in

17:48

there to help jump us. But like when I explained

17:50

that, yeah, this is a function of the way our

17:52

brain regulates Dopamine is an expression

17:54

of that. It's not about your willpower. And

17:56

If you are needing this rest, if you're

17:58

taking this rest, you probably. The we need

18:00

him out of reach out of it

18:02

and people really respected a with that.

18:04

I see the light bulbs go off

18:07

because many people, even without even people

18:09

don't usually or or don't immediately activating

18:11

that point of view. It's so ingrained

18:13

in us that we think it's a

18:15

willpower issue that we are just not

18:17

as. Keep. We're just not as we

18:19

don't have a strong i desire to do things

18:21

if we are being taught up his behaviors and

18:23

it's really not that is not at all. leave

18:25

her characters The character requires more of an expression

18:28

of our private buyer. Of our

18:30

biology. Same. Talking on. The

18:32

treated him overcaffeinated, Overcaffeinated

18:35

Brian of okay, I'm.

18:39

Yeah, love that way. I love the

18:41

way you phrased. That because.

18:43

Like. Like we always say, we're

18:45

catches the Aegis ever still have a D

18:47

H D and added struggling with something that

18:50

was part of my neck. it is on.

18:53

Cognition was I don't have willpower.

18:55

And I know it's a distorted type

18:57

of an issue for me. And now

18:59

not only have I you worked with.

19:01

My therapist refinance. Now I even have

19:04

a little extra information even. I've heard

19:06

all this before and thought of. When.

19:09

We go into our own. Things.

19:12

You. Know in our own world we forget some

19:14

of those things. That's nice to hear it come

19:16

back. At us for someone else.

19:18

And so now I haven't. You rephrase that.

19:21

I have a new. Like.

19:23

Support is this isn't as bad. Yeah,

19:25

I really don't want to say I

19:27

don't have willpower. To house at

19:29

that's nothing to do is ask Allah

19:31

that a source. And with that you

19:34

know stories that we tell ourselves as your

19:36

service messiah my group. Is. A

19:38

couple years ago when I first started

19:40

by moving my my such since we

19:42

later in the eyes and ears morning

19:44

during the afternoon I'm part of that

19:46

was either some sense in that I

19:48

wanted to doubt. I'm be outside

19:51

more and more physical activity outside

19:53

am. So. i have this

19:55

intention that i say have a certain

19:57

doing later group and part of my

19:59

plan was now this is before

20:01

I discovered pickleball. My other

20:04

weird sport that I really like is frisbee golf.

20:06

Right. And so I was like, my plan was

20:08

I was gonna be playing frisbee golf in the

20:10

morning, and then going to the office. And

20:13

I remember so just thinking this first,

20:15

the first day I was I was

20:17

out playing pickleball, or frisbee

20:19

golf, and it was in the

20:21

morning. And I remember feeling

20:23

this this huge sense of guilt. I'm like, I

20:26

have all these things I need to be doing.

20:28

And I just

20:30

allowed myself to just notice the

20:32

story, you know, huh, and

20:34

just realizing how ingrained that is

20:36

for so many of us that

20:38

like, this isn't done,

20:40

there's tasks that require our responding.

20:43

Right. And I think one

20:45

of the things that I think is

20:47

helpful in the group setting is talking

20:49

about that and normalizing that experience. Because

20:52

just because I had the thought and had

20:55

an uncomfortable feeling about it didn't mean I

20:57

was doing anything wrong. And I think that's

20:59

just an important part of the nuanced discussion

21:01

about when we are engaging in self care,

21:03

like a lot of those old scripts are

21:06

going to try to

21:08

get their voices heard internally. Right.

21:11

But just because we think it doesn't

21:13

mean it's true. Right. I think

21:15

it's an important part of that. How

21:17

many times his kids are we told, Oh,

21:20

you can't go out and play, which is

21:22

a child's job, by the way, because that's

21:24

how they grow and learn. Until

21:27

you do this work, until you do your chores,

21:29

until you do this, I've had

21:31

parents sometimes slip it around for them. And

21:35

for certain kids, it works better.

21:37

Yeah. You know, so I think some

21:39

of that is ingrained in us too,

21:41

in different, you know, millions.

21:45

Yeah. And then we also talk about to like, is

21:47

it ever okay to numb? And have

21:50

you had that conversation? Brian, your section? Yeah.

21:54

And I would say basically numb happens. Like,

21:58

again, it doesn't even rhyme or The thing we

22:00

know exactly what I'm saying. yeah now map

22:03

is a lot and look around her we

22:05

are. We react to it when it does

22:07

happen and what do we learn from him?

22:09

I mean web, What do we realize? Oh

22:12

yeah, I know yesterday. Know

22:14

what their disappointment around that girl? When we can I

22:16

learn about the how do we adopted I. Once.

22:18

Sugar that? Why am I getting enough

22:20

sleep? I'm getting enough rest of my

22:23

stressed out about something at work and

22:25

not really dealing with is why am

22:27

I not? saw it as an investment

22:29

of our core concepts out or underlying

22:31

principles. Your that we approach everything with

22:34

curiosity and it's I would you like

22:36

a set of they are man avast

22:38

a daisy numbers like well. Why?

22:40

Did my body feel the need to

22:42

know that this is my and I'm

22:45

a something off emotionally is something are

22:47

physically my to fatigue demise a. Unhappy.

22:50

Mit press the know like if we as

22:52

long as we were even even as a

22:54

numbing day I that happens is still an

22:57

opportunity to learn to adapt to the to

22:59

gain from it. The only thing donnelly real

23:01

waste as if we just turn our back

23:03

on it and internalized that little message of.

23:06

Other. A of insecurity that not

23:08

that willpower message again still haunted me.

23:10

That's the only way to reduce as

23:13

suit walk away with that with allergies

23:15

or so what we talk about in

23:17

we decided in his are legacies and

23:19

we look at. Like. The be real

23:22

like we ask a question, what do you want to

23:24

be pre that. I. Am is this

23:26

question that we often avoid and like

23:28

was maybe think about in the sort

23:30

of abstract. Way. And what we do

23:32

is bring the abstract to be concrete and

23:34

we you know from. Go. Dreaming of

23:36

our our bucket lists? Soo yung, what

23:39

are what would we do if we

23:41

were told that we have been on

23:43

a week to remind or a year

23:46

so to live. And. So we

23:48

talk about that in week seven, because

23:50

you know. Intentional.

23:52

lives take work and it

23:54

is amazing when we are

23:56

really intense non learn boundaries

23:59

around time and learn how to do

24:02

the self-care stuff. Like we can do

24:04

incredible amazing things. And you know, you

24:06

look at your day and your week,

24:09

the things that you thought you get done might have

24:11

taken you longer. But when we start dreaming big picture,

24:14

it is amazing how much we can really

24:16

actually get done with the right supports and

24:18

structures. And that's what we help our members

24:21

with. So we're gonna talk about that more

24:23

deeply next week on the coaches round table.

24:26

And you know, cause the podcast time, I

24:28

just wanna publicly wish

24:30

Brian a good trip. He is

24:32

doing the AIDS life cycle ride,

24:34

which is a week long bike

24:36

ride that raises money for LGBTQ

24:39

healthcare. For the third

24:41

year in a row, which was one of his

24:43

bucket list goals. And he was a member

24:45

of the coaching groups, which is just, I

24:48

get so excited about that for you,

24:51

Brian. So I'm so happy for you.

24:53

And speaking of LGBTQ issues, it is

24:55

pride month. And I am teaming up

24:57

with the fabulous and queer, Chris Wayne

25:00

from Shimmer, and a

25:02

few of our queer neurodivergent

25:04

colleagues for Neurodivergent Pride, a

25:07

pride month panel discussion. This

25:10

panel brings together neurodivergent voices

25:12

from the LGBTQ community to

25:14

share their voices, stories,

25:17

challenges, and successes. By

25:19

highlighting the intersection of

25:22

LGBTQ plus issues and

25:24

neurodivergent identities, this event

25:26

emphasizes the importance of

25:28

awareness and combating stigma.

25:31

We are aiming to showcase

25:33

the diverse experiences of the

25:36

queer community and neurodivergent individuals,

25:38

fostering a deeper understanding and

25:41

advocating for a more inclusive

25:43

society. And everyone is welcome.

25:45

And we are doing it on June 16th

25:49

at 1.30 PM Pacific, 4.30 Eastern. Go

25:53

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rewire.com/Pride 2024. And

25:58

if you want to see the... discussion, but

26:01

you can't make it live.

26:03

We will send out the

26:06

recording to anyone who's registered.

26:08

That's adhdrewired.com/Pride 2024. And

26:10

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26:13

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26:16

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26:18

watch your inbox and our social

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26:23

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26:25

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June 7th at 10 a.m.

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Pacific, one Eastern. And

27:28

chat GPT, I'm recording you right now

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on my podcast. And could you give

27:32

listeners who might be have been thinking

27:34

about joining our coaching groups for a

27:37

while now, based on everything that I've

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ever shared with you about our groups,

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can you offer a compelling reason to

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that listener who's been looking

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for a sign to let them know that

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this is the season that they should join

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our coaching groups? Absolutely,

27:52

Eric. Hey, listeners, if

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With a track record of success and

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and expert guidance. Your future self will

28:32

thank you. I

28:34

don't think I could have said that better myself. I'm

28:38

glad you liked it. It's all about conveying the

28:40

value and impact of what you offer. Is

28:43

there anything else you'd like to add or tweak before

28:45

you record? Oh, this

28:47

is all being recorded right now. Um,

28:49

since this is coming out at the

28:51

beginning of Pride Month, I was wondering

28:54

if you could not sing a song

28:56

about the intersectionality

28:59

of ADHD and

29:01

neurodivergence with LGBTQ-related

29:04

issues. I'd

29:08

love to give it a go. Here's a little

29:10

something for Pride Month. In

29:12

a world so diverse, where colors

29:14

all blend, there's a place for

29:16

each heart where all can mend. With

29:19

ADHD minds that race and soar and

29:21

LGBTQ souls always wanting more. We find

29:23

strength in our stories, our battles,

29:25

and our pride in the intersections

29:27

where our truths reside. From

29:29

the struggles we face to the love that we

29:31

find, together we shine with

29:33

a brilliant mind. So here's

29:36

to the fighters, the dreamers, the bold. In

29:38

the spectrum of life, our stories are told. With

29:41

love and acceptance, we rise and we stand neurodivergent

29:44

hearts hand in hand. Happy

29:46

Pride Month, everyone. Damn,

29:49

that was awesome. Alright, we

29:51

will catch you back here next week.

29:53

Thanks everyone.