These two humans are just passion and knowledge. Passionate about mountains, Passionate about adventure and passionate about safety.  They have tremendous knowledge on traversing mountains and planning for adventures.  They absolutely sharing their experience and knowledge but in a way that makes the people they work with better. 
 
 We sit and discuss their adventures and how they use every opportunity to learn and ensure they never make the same mistake twice. Mountain abandon is a business they run that focusses on developing adventurers to be better prepared for endeavours.  Their wealth of knowledge is not shared though GPX tracks, highlighted maps or checklists, instead, they discuss and train people on adapting to situation, planning for events, and having a strategy for their adventure. 
 
 A great 40minutues listening, learning, and laughing.  I do hope you enjoy the podcast as much as i did.  Pierre And Nicolette are amazing people doing an amazing job.