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doing my study, you know?
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And I had a teacher who was
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like, Nina, I'm sorry to break this
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to you, but you're just
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never going to work in this industry unless
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you get rid of your accent. I
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was told that and I was like, oh my
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God, okay, what can I do? And
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so when I graduated, I invested
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in like accent training.
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So I did like hours upon
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hours with RP, like received
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pronunciation accent training and a
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general American accent training, and
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then eventually sort of just got rid
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of my European accent. And now it's
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so funny because sometimes I feel like
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I have to even like put back
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on the European accent
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when I'm doing roles because that is
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mostly what I do now. Like my
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whole career is based on basically being
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a foreigner. And I don't mind that.
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It's great. Like, you know, I
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love that. But yeah, that teacher
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was so wrong. I cannot tell you.
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I feel like first off,
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any teacher that says that, like that tries
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to bring people down, you know,
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how many times I mean,
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I've heard the story hundreds of times, right? I
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know. I know. It's so cliche.
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Oh, it is cliche. You're not going to amount to
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anything or, you know, this, that, the other. Yeah, but
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this is what they tell you. They actually do tell
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you this. I don't know. In drama schools, they have
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this technique or whatever, which
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is to like break the person down
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before they rebuild them up again, before
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they send them out into the, you
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know, industry, into the world of being
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an actor or a performer or whatever.
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And I'm not sure whether that is to like
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prepare you for all of the closed
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doors and all of the no thank
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yous that you will receive throughout your
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career. Maybe that is
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it to like give you thicker skin. Yeah,
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they're really wrong sometimes. I
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get it. I mean, I feel like
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if you're, if you're. going into the industry such
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as acting and voice acting like you
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have to have thick skin I mean like I mean you
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have to know that you have to have thick skin, right?
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There's no way you're just gonna you know think you're gonna
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get every roll and nail everything. So yeah, I think she
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was just being rude It
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was a he actually. Oh You
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know what? Mansplaining
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Oh Mansplaining a
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situation to a woman of course No,
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it's all making sense. Yeah exactly.
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Yeah No, I think it
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was just jealous. Oh, absolutely. He's like
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I wish I could be getting all these
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Eastern European roles exactly Sucks
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to suck man. He can he can keep he
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can keep on teaching. Thank you. It makes
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me feel so much better Thank you. Absolutely. You're
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welcome. You're welcome. So voice
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from voice acting Final Fantasy 16 and
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voice acting video games to On-screen
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work apparently you've done obviously. I mean you
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were in Peaky Blinders one of my favorite
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shows. Yeah All right. Okay. Have you watched
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the whole thing? Come on now, of course,
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and I'm happy that they're oh, absolutely I've watched it
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twice and I'm happy they're bringing it back for a
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movie At least
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I think they are I
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was not invited for that movie. Damn it You
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know, it's tough tough tough world out there
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Tough world. Damn it. Gosh.
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So I love that I love interviewing and
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speaking with actors that have done both sides
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of the coin Do
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you prefer on-screen acting
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or being in a booth? Oh You
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know what? I can't answer
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that it really depends actually sometimes it
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depends on the day Sometimes
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I'm like, you know what? I just
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want to roll out of bed
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in my pajamas get into the booth and
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just Scream like that
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that is my dream day and
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then other times I'm like I
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kind of want to be in front of the camera. I want to
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do this and I want to act with someone else It's
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you know, it's like two completely
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different disciplines Of course there's
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like crossovers in terms of
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like speaking the truth
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of the character and imagining yourself
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in a situation. You still have
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to do that on screen even
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though you're, you know, in a
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big set surrounded by, you know,
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actors who are with you and
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costumes and stuff that makes it
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easier for you to get into
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the present situation of your character.
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But it's still like
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two completely different acting
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techniques being a voiceover actor and
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then an on-screen actor. You've done
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some on-screen stuff as well, right?
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Yeah, I had some stuff in, I've
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filmed commercials before and I
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think my very first movie that I did
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was Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds. Oh
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my god, amazing! So how do
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you find it? Like how
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do you... Horrifying. Really? You
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both equally horrifying. I think
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that what scares me
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the most with on-screen
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acting is you are
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just, if you're not doing well, like
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let's just say, first off, let's just say you suck, okay? I'm
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sitting there feeling like I'm wasting, you
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know, you're wasting the director's time, all
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the actors that are in your scenes
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time, the sound guy's time, you know
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what I mean? Like if you're just
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not nailing it, it could take hours
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to get this one scene they need
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and it's like that pressure,
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that's what I'm thinking of. Right, but
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surely that's never happened to you? Well,
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no it hasn't, but it feels like it
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sometimes when the director's just like, hey man,
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we want this and it's like, I swear
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I'm giving it to you. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. That's so, you know what is so
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interesting you say that. It's like the, what
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is the word for it? When,
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imposter syndrome, when you feel like you're
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like, oh, I don't deserve to be
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here. Because obviously like as
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an actor, both on screen
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and like as a voiceover artist,
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you're competing with hundreds of
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people. who probably, you
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know, a lot of them are probably better than
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you, but still you got it, right? So you're
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like, oh, I don't deserve to be here. But,
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you know, the funny thing is, I
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recently had an experience where I
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was sat in the edit of
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a film that I starred in. And
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so I was also a producer of
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the film. And so I
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kind of like put myself into the edit. I was like, I'm going to
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be in the edit. I want to watch it. And
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I was like, I'm going to be part of like,
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you know, the creating of this. Yeah. And we
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were watching through some cuts. And
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I remember watching a scene. I was like, why
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did you? And asking the director, like, why
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did you use that take? I'm
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pretty sure I had a much better take than
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this because I specifically remember the
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scene. And I remember walking out
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of that scene being like, wow, I
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nailed that, you know, but
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they but the director had not used that
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scene. And I was like, why? I
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want to see that take. Like, can we can we
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bring that take back in? And
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so the editor did that
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and I watched it back and it was
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awful. And it
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was like literally like
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the worst. And in
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my head, I was like, oh, my God, I just
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remember it as the actor
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on set thinking, wow, I
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absolutely nailed that. But
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then translate that scene translated
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onto the screen just did
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not like play as
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well as the take that the director
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had used, which, you
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know, I remember that I didn't feel
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as connected during the take that the
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director ended up using. Yeah.
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But still, it worked much better. So
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I think what I learned from
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that was actually you don't
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actually know sometimes as the actor.
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What is going to
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play out best and like a
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performance that you give that you. beautiful.
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Austria is beautiful. Oh my, I would live
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there. I would like, that's a place where
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like, you know, like I would retire. Give
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me a fiber optic line for internet
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and just... But Austria, Austria
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is like nothing like Norway or
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Poland. Like, so this is
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so funny. Everyone's like, I really want
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to go to Norway and I always
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tell them, I'm like, don't go to
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Oslo. Just do not go to Oslo.
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That is not the representative of Norway.
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If you want to go to Norway,
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go to like the countryside, go to
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the mountains, go and see the nature.
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Like some of the most spectacular,
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amazing hikes that I've done in
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my life have been in Norway
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on the west coast. Like,
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but people don't think of going there.
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They're like, oh let's go to Oslo.
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Let's go to the capital. Same with
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Poland. We, when I grew up, we
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had a house in like the northeast
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of Poland bordering Lithuania and Belarus and
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this area is called,
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it's called Białestok, but we were
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right next to Białowieża, which is
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basically, it was on like,
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what's it called? The UNESCO's like Seven
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Wonders of the World, which it,
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the forest there has got the
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biggest, chunkiest trees in the
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whole world. And you walk into this
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forest and you see this huge tree that's
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the size of a house and it's just
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like, amazing. I think I've seen that
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online. Yeah, yeah, Białowieża.
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It's amazing and it, again, like
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most people go to Warsaw because
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it's the capital, but actually people
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should go to Białowieża. Like,
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that is far more interesting and
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just beautiful, you know, and I'd
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say more representative of the country. They've
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got amazing beer called Żobr, which
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is from there. Yeah, so if
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anyone's planning to go to Poland,
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go to like the Northeast or
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even like go to Gdańsk, which
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is lovely. Gdańsk, yeah, it's like,
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it's it's... when
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it comes to industry talk and
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talking about my career, etc. But
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then, for instance, when I
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speak in Polish, I usually speak
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Polish with my family. So
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I kind of become the
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10-year-old me again when I'm speaking
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Polish with my family. And it's
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a completely different way of
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expressing yourself that
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I'm not
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even sure if I would be able to do that in English.
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And then same in Norwegian. The
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Norwegian language has far fewer
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words than English. So
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sometimes I'm actually at a
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lack of words in Norwegian
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when I'm trying to express
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myself or explain something. I'm
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like, oh gosh, in English I
1:00:49
would have used four different words to explain
1:00:51
something. In
1:00:56
Norway, we only have one word to explain
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this. And so
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you do become different. So
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I say that I've got three
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personalities, minimum. So
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multilingual and multiple
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personality. I'm
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so happy I asked that question. That is
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such a good question, actually. Let's go.
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We have to remember to ask every
1:01:20
multilingual person now. You should, yeah.
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Because I'm curious what other multilingual
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people think, actually. Maybe some people
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are really good at merging all
1:01:30
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right. All right, Nina. Let's do the final two
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segments. We got this
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or that. Follow up
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with some other questions. These
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can be as short or as long as you want
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to answer. All right. Here we go.
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Voice acting, stage acting, or screen
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acting? All
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of them. Okay. That's fine. I
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think this might be the same
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answer then. Norway, Poland, or the
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UK? You
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know what I'm going to say UK because right now I'm
1:03:46
like, I found my roots here.
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I feel like, you know, we, yeah,
1:03:50
I've just moved into this
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new place and I'm feeling like I'm
1:03:55
really nesting into my home. So I'm
1:03:58
going to say UK. But that
1:04:01
does make my heart bleed a little bit.
1:04:04
Ah, you'll be fine. Don't worry about it. Don't
1:04:06
worry about it. All that matters is that you think that. And
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that's just great. And you're there. You're there where you want
1:04:13
to be. So, improvisation
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or rehearsing? Oh, I
1:04:17
like rehearsing. I would probably agree
1:04:20
to that. I do like
1:04:22
improv, but there's something about rehearsing that
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you kind of unlock new
1:04:27
things about yourself as a
1:04:29
performer. Yeah, rehearsing. Okay.
1:04:32
Huge sold-out crowd or
1:04:35
small intimate venue? For
1:04:37
me, huge sold-out crowd. I
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feel... Weirdly, I
1:04:42
feel much more comfortable in front
1:04:45
of a huge crowd than like
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an intimate venue. I
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don't know what it is. Yeah, I can see that. It's kind
1:04:51
of weird, but yeah. I can see that. Yeah.
1:04:54
Yeah. Okay. Crying scene
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or a stunt scene? Oh!
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Hmm. I'd say
1:05:02
a stunt scene because I always get
1:05:04
the freaking crying scenes.
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I always cry in every single thing. I'm
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like, okay, I'm bored of crying now.
1:05:12
Like, yeah. Get me in... What's
1:05:15
that stunt movie with Ryan Gosling?
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One Shot. Um... I don't think it's...
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Is it One Shot? Maybe not One Shot. I can't
1:05:23
remember. I thought it was... Anyway, I want to be
1:05:25
in that. Isn't it like stunt double?
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Yeah, maybe stunt double. I want to be
1:05:29
in that movie. Like, I want to jump
1:05:32
off of cliffs and stuff. Yeah, stunt. The
1:05:34
Fall Guy. The Fall Guy, yes. Got it. Yeah.
1:05:38
Cool. All right. All
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right. scenes
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actually. No, no, no, no. I'd do them all
1:05:44
myself. Really? Sure.
1:05:48
The producers would just be like, oh my
1:05:50
God. Yeah, yeah. Snap your
1:05:52
wrist and then delay for three
1:05:56
months. Yeah. Okay. Introvert
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or extrovert? Introvert. That
1:06:00
was simple. That was amazing. You know what? I'm
1:06:02
actually going to do this then. Date night out
1:06:04
or date night in? Oh,
1:06:08
it fluctuates. But I'd say at the
1:06:11
moment, date night out just
1:06:14
because I've been like in the house a lot. All
1:06:17
right. You're very go
1:06:19
with the flow kind of person, right? Whatever you're
1:06:21
feeling is what you're going with. Yeah. And
1:06:24
it changes all the time. So whenever,
1:06:26
yeah, it changes all the time, actually. This is
1:06:28
how I feel now. Like I'd
1:06:30
like to go out now. Love
1:06:32
that. I'm pretty much the exact same way. Yeah. How
1:06:36
it should be. It is. It is.
1:06:39
It absolutely is. All right. What would you
1:06:41
do if you forgot your whole monologue while
1:06:43
on stage? Improvise.
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You just improv it? Just make
1:06:49
some shit up. Just
1:06:52
become a completely different actor. They're like, wait a
1:06:54
minute. This isn't even your character. What's happening? Yeah.
1:06:57
Actually, oh, gosh, what would I
1:06:59
do? I'm such an over prepared
1:07:01
that I got it would never
1:07:03
happen. Touchwood. I've never been in that
1:07:05
situation, but now I feel like I've jinxed it. So it's probably
1:07:07
going to happen now. You
1:07:10
have full control over this because all you have to do
1:07:13
is just be prepared. So yeah. But
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do you know, sometimes you can just get
1:07:17
blackouts, right? Like
1:07:19
you're over prepared and then you just
1:07:22
forget it. Your mind just goes blank.
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Oh, my God. I don't know. I'm not to
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fear. Yeah, I did actually
1:07:29
faint on stage once. Was
1:07:31
it from anxiety or just? It
1:07:34
was a mix of anxiety, but also like
1:07:37
I could I was you
1:07:39
didn't have any food. You're on your fourth cup of
1:07:41
coffee. Literally. Yeah, I was I
1:07:43
was so like malnourished. And then we did
1:07:45
this like jumping thing and I had to
1:07:48
jump from the ground like
1:07:50
up. And just the efforts made
1:07:52
me faint. Yeah. On
1:07:55
stage. So yeah, that was not fun.
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That was not fun. Yeah, let's not do
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that. again. Yeah, I
1:08:03
can't imagine, especially being in such an uncomfortable...
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Yeah, like just the audience.
1:08:08
And yeah, the actors, your fellow actors being
1:08:11
like, are
1:08:14
you okay? Like this isn't part of the scene. Wake up. Line.
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Oh, never again. Good to
1:08:25
like drink enough and eat some before
1:08:27
you go on stage. That's like, yeah,
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you got to do that. Oh, all
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right. What language do you dream in?
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Or does that also change? You know
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what? Some people dream in languages.
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Some people dream in pictures.
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I dream in pictures. You
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dream in pictures? Yeah.
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I don't dream in language. No one speaks to me
1:08:51
in my dream. That's horrifying.
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Is it? Yes. I just see.
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So do you know, since you only dream in
1:09:01
pictures, do you like know that you're dreaming more
1:09:03
often then? Because no one's talking? Or
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have you not like subconsciously made that connection? I
1:09:09
have a weird thing. I remember
1:09:11
every single dream that I
1:09:14
have. Yeah, I usually do too, unless
1:09:16
I'm like, usually. But
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you dream in English. Like,
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do people speak to you in your dreams? Mm hmm.
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Interesting. I think all
1:09:28
of my dreams are like, do you
1:09:30
know Salvador Dali, the painter? No,
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I will Google him right now. Yeah. So if
1:09:35
you Google his pictures, that is
1:09:37
what my dreams look like. It's
1:09:39
just like, oh, that's so
1:09:42
weird. Yeah. The melted clocks.
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Yeah. Like weird kind of
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like, it's horrifying. I'm
1:09:48
looking at half his pictures.
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There's terrifying long legs and
1:09:53
demented figures. Yeah. Yeah. This
1:09:55
is this is like, what
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my dreams look like. That's how I dream.
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And there's like, I can't remember. There's
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no sound. No, there's just like pictures.
1:10:04
No sound either. Yeah. You might be,
1:10:06
you might be, what is it called? Like
1:10:09
you're dream hopping or something. I don't know.
1:10:11
You're like traveling to different universes or something.
1:10:14
And like, I actually think I do sometimes.
1:10:17
I think I believe in that. I believe in that.
1:10:19
There's like a theory where like your soul leaves your
1:10:21
body a little bit. Yeah. Like when you're when you're
1:10:24
dreaming and then that's what happens is you're you just
1:10:26
drift away and you know, it's going to end up
1:10:28
in different places. Second you wake up, it gets snapped
1:10:30
back. That's so interesting because that's
1:10:32
genuinely how I feel. I'm going to I'm
1:10:34
going to have to read up on this
1:10:37
because I've always been fascinated by by dreams.
1:10:40
Yes. But I should probably analyze
1:10:42
my dreams more because they're kind of weird.
1:10:44
And I'm like, why am I dreaming this?
1:10:46
Like what what's my subconscious trying to tell
1:10:48
me here? There's a whole book on that.
1:10:50
You got this. It's like, what
1:10:52
are you what are your dreams trying
1:10:54
to tell you? Yeah. Jung is not
1:10:56
like Jung. He's like written all about
1:10:58
this, like psychoanalysis of dreams and stuff.
1:11:00
Yeah. I'm going to study that. Oh,
1:11:03
yeah. All right, you
1:11:05
know, we're down to our final two questions that
1:11:07
we ask all of our guests here. So
1:11:10
no pressure. If you had
1:11:12
no pressure, if you had to delete all
1:11:14
but three applications from your phone, which ones
1:11:16
would you keep? And they
1:11:18
have to be like downloaded ones. So not
1:11:20
like notes or anything like that. That's such
1:11:22
a nice question. I
1:11:24
know. Oh, what
1:11:27
can you not what you just go to your
1:11:29
phone? What are your fingers immediately gravitate towards? I
1:11:32
mean my email. Oh,
1:11:35
come on. Not
1:11:38
the right person to ask this question. I
1:11:40
know. Jesus. You
1:11:42
have a workout app or something like
1:11:44
a health app that you do. You
1:11:47
even have applications on your phone. I've
1:11:49
got flow. Oh,
1:11:51
yeah. My wife's got flow. You've
1:11:53
got to get that down. Okay, so
1:11:56
flows on. That's important to know your
1:11:58
cycle and everything to like. I
1:16:00
knew it. Yeah, I do. You
1:16:02
don't want to know how I knew that? I knew
1:16:04
that because your first app that you would keep was
1:16:09
Flow and not something
1:16:11
like Twitter or TikTok
1:16:13
or YouTube. It
1:16:16
was a flow. So that
1:16:18
was just like, yes, absolutely. I knew
1:16:20
it. Yeah, no, I do love my
1:16:22
books. And yeah, I do like reading
1:16:24
a book before going to sleep. That's
1:16:26
the best. Which is good. That should
1:16:28
be putting you right into deep sleep
1:16:31
then. Because there's a list
1:16:33
of things that you should check off
1:16:35
before going to sleep. It's like no
1:16:37
coffee or caffeine eight hours before sleep,
1:16:39
no food three hours before sleep, and
1:16:41
then in a perfect world, no screen
1:16:43
time for the last hour. And then
1:16:45
that should put you and your brain
1:16:47
into pass out mode. You know what?
1:16:49
I do that. I genuinely
1:16:52
do that. But still, I
1:16:54
don't get that much deep sleep. So I
1:16:56
need to. I'm just kind
1:16:58
of interested now. Are you a side sleeper? Do you
1:17:00
sleep on your stomach? Do you sleep on your back?
1:17:02
It depends what I'm doing to my hair. Oh,
1:17:05
OK. I
1:17:08
sleep with these heatless curlers. Wow.
1:17:11
Yeah, because then the next day
1:17:13
I have amazing hair. So when
1:17:15
I sleep with heatless curlers, I
1:17:17
sleep on my back because
1:17:20
it's kind of uncomfortable sleeping on
1:17:22
the side. But then normally I
1:17:24
sleep on my side. No,
1:17:27
actually, I always wake up on my back. Yeah,
1:17:30
I can't sleep on my back.
1:17:32
It's almost impossible. For some reason, I am
1:17:36
more awake when I'm on my back. And the second
1:17:38
I roll over to my side, it's
1:17:40
almost like my brain's like, OK, now we can
1:17:42
go to sleep. It's very strange. Maybe
1:17:45
that's what I need to do. I sleep
1:17:47
differently on different sides, like if I'm facing
1:17:49
the left or I'm facing the right. Yeah,
1:17:52
literally, it feels like I'm getting,
1:17:55
hang on, when I'm sleeping on my
1:17:58
right side, I feel like I'm
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