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back to Unplugged, our weekly look around

2:58

sports culture and entertainment. Jack, we had

3:01

a week off last week. We were

3:03

busy shaking and baking, but some

3:05

bullshit has gone on since the last time we connected.

3:08

Me and you were both in

3:11

Alabama, Rickwood Field for Juneteenth. Shout

3:13

out our brother, C.C. Sabathia, the

3:15

MLB and Uninterrupted for

3:17

having us out there for the charity softball game,

3:19

which we had a blast at. Yeah,

3:22

how was your experience out there? Man,

3:24

like I said, I was just worried about

3:26

all the smoke putting on a good show.

3:29

You know what I'm saying? We call ourselves athletes

3:31

and we did not let down. My brother, you

3:33

won the MVP, put on a great show. I

3:35

think it was only two home runs hit the

3:38

whole game, right? You and Ryan Howard, you and

3:40

him, no one here home runs. You got the

3:42

MVP. I beat our ass. Our

3:44

team was terrible, but we had fun,

3:46

man. I think we both put on a great show and C.C.

3:48

and MLB and Uninterrupted put

3:50

on a great event. They

3:55

took care of everybody. They laid everything out. I want

3:57

to say I appreciate y'all. Anytime they have an event

3:59

like that, man. bring out a smoke bag.

4:01

Yeah, definitely. Obviously, rest in peace. The

4:03

night before the game, the late great

4:05

Willie Mays moved on at the age

4:07

of 93. The Rick Woodfield is the

4:09

oldest baseball park in the

4:12

United States. It was where Jackie

4:14

Robinson, excuse me, where Willie Mays

4:16

played his first game of professional

4:18

baseball 17. Jack, did you

4:20

get a chance to see Reggie

4:22

Jackson discuss what they

4:24

went through there when

4:27

Alex Rodriguez asked him about it? You

4:30

know, I seen him. My mama's son. It's on

4:32

me. Mm hmm. That was that was dope. That

4:34

was raw and real and

4:36

Reggie Jackson obviously super super OG.

4:38

One of the greatest mister October. He

4:40

didn't wear respect. He didn't

4:43

hold back at all, man. He really let

4:45

people know him and and and really what

4:47

struck me hearing that story obviously because you

4:50

know, I'm a big fan of baseball and and and

4:52

and watch the Jackie Robinson story and and saw all

4:54

the **** they had to go through. Um

4:56

the fact that people are trying to erase

4:58

that part of history. People want to

5:01

not discuss what's really happening to me.

5:04

How do you ever move

5:06

forward and get better? We really don't

5:08

understand the **** that came before

5:10

us. So, I really want

5:12

to shout out Reggie Jackson and obviously Alex

5:14

Rodriguez, you know, ask the question to kinda

5:17

tip that off but it was real raw

5:19

and and and uncut. So, if you missed that, make

5:21

sure you guys go check that out, man. It was a

5:23

real experience of how

5:25

players used to have to move

5:28

back then. I don't care. For

5:31

real. For real. Yeah. Um I just got

5:33

back. So, I should check. I went from

5:35

that to Arizona section. Yeah, how was Arizona?

5:38

It was dope, man. It was hot as man.

5:40

Hell's kitchen. It was like 110, 112 out

5:43

there but uh went out there to check out

5:45

one of the biggest high school basketball tournaments in

5:47

the country. Uh teams from all over. Uh we're

5:49

out there and and um it was good. I got to

5:51

see a lot of the kids I coach and a lot

5:53

of the big up and coming kids and

5:56

um it was dope. Twins team one. They're

5:58

they're uh they're the. championship in their

6:01

bracket. Play with the I said it

6:03

was hot. The day was hot too. Yeah. No, they

6:05

was superman. The team you know, their team lost their

6:07

best player. He transferred to another school and our team

6:09

was really young outside of that. So now it's the

6:11

twins and a couple other their you know, kids are

6:13

going to be sophomores have to

6:16

step up and and they did man. So it was

6:18

it was dope ton of dads out there. I saw

6:20

Jamal Crawford out there. We talked a little bit about

6:22

the Laker job and if he's going to join JJ

6:24

staff, which we'll get into a little

6:26

bit later, but yeah, man. Great event. shout

6:28

out section seven. How was

6:30

the big three? The big three was

6:32

cool, man. We off to a bad start. Oh and two.

6:35

I missed the first game because I had to be down

6:37

there promoting all the smoke fighting all the smoke boxing for

6:40

the fight with with Tank Davis last weekend, but

6:42

I mean week before last but last this week

6:44

when we was in Tampa. One thing about it,

6:46

I can't say this shout out to Tampa man

6:48

sold out arena. I'm talking about that. Yeah, man.

6:51

They came out and supported man and it

6:53

was the games were great. We we was

6:55

down 20 to Dr. J's team

6:57

doing a great job this year. They all took a good

7:00

start. We was down 20 got the game

7:02

back to six and missed the free throw

7:04

to get the ball back to keep the game going. So

7:06

but three three losses and big three, you know, you guarantee

7:08

not to make the playoffs. So we gotta win out. So

7:10

so let's see if we can do it. I mean more

7:12

games you guys got this year. Oh and two. You got

7:14

what? Eight more games? Yeah, I got six.

7:16

Yeah, I got no. We got ten weeks. Yeah. So

7:18

seven more games. Yeah. Yeah. The last week the last

7:21

week is the championship. Good luck with that. I want

7:23

to shout out everyone out here who helped us sell

7:25

out the first round and we're going to continue to

7:27

lead any of our new mezcal medios.

7:29

We appreciate you. We sold out the first batch. We want

7:32

to continue to build on that growing that we gotta get

7:35

that in some restaurants around our our our areas

7:37

and yeah drinking. Let's go get it. It's out

7:39

there. People are really ****

7:41

with it too. Jack. Obviously, we're not just saying it because it's hard

7:43

but you know, we've had some real people

7:46

who drink and taste and critique and and

7:48

I haven't heard

7:50

anything bad and you know, hey, man,

7:52

you know what? We've been drinking

7:54

and we taste a lot of different ways to drink it but

7:56

I'm telling you. Ice

7:59

cube. That's all you

8:01

need. I'm telling you because it's not that

8:03

it don't make you do all that and

8:05

it got that light smoke Light

8:08

smoke finish to it. I'm telling you bro

8:10

a nice ice cube and a little shot

8:12

of that man. Just sip on that I'm

8:14

telling you man. You you out of here

8:16

sell that shit then Jack. Also. No, I'm

8:18

somebody got it It's not necessarily a shooting

8:21

mezcal But if you do shoot it make sure you get you

8:23

an orange and some cinnamon sugar to change your life Remember

8:26

you heard it here. Yes. Anyway,

8:28

thank everybody batch two on the way

8:31

Jack local news Lakers JJ Rettick

8:33

is the new head coach of

8:35

the Los Angeles Lakers A lot of

8:37

hate is going to my dog

8:40

JJ and I understand it, you

8:42

know, some people calling a white privilege The

8:45

poster he's calling him the poster boy for it, you

8:48

know, obviously no previous coaching experience

8:52

On his resume but a very articulate high-cubed

8:54

guy someone I play with someone I really

8:56

fuck with and believe in but

8:58

you're seeing you know, Sam Cassell has been out there for

9:00

a long time as an assistant coaches won some rings and

9:04

Hasn't got a look but what do you

9:06

think? I guess this is two-part question

9:09

about JJ sliding into this hot

9:11

seat and Then for the

9:13

coaches that are out there that are

9:15

assistants that haven't really got

9:17

the nod yet for big opportunities

9:21

Well one is definitely coaches out there that

9:23

deserve it way more than JJ that played

9:25

it but it's paid their dues that is

9:27

proven There's one championship that's done the work

9:29

that's best went to all these

9:31

coaching camps and schools that they tried to force

9:33

them this that told them that they had to

9:36

go to to Eventually be a coach the job.

9:38

It's a whole bunch of coaches that did all

9:40

that and still ain't know it It still ain't nowhere

9:42

close to getting the head coach the job. So It

9:46

is it is it is there. No secret by

9:48

that We understand that everybody

9:50

sees that yeah JJ is privileged and can

9:52

you smell what the rock is cooking? Cuz

9:54

I could when I smelled it when him

9:56

and LeBron was doing the podcast. No, I

9:59

said I smelled I knew I knew all this

10:01

was getting cooked up but I will say this as

10:04

a player and and as somebody who knows JJ

10:06

and played with JJ for a short time and

10:08

know and he's he's a brother of mine too.

10:11

That **** know the game for him.

10:13

He's he's super smart. Uh I

10:15

don't think he's dedicated to it

10:17

and uh even if

10:20

we say it's privileged, I mean he gonna go

10:22

in there and I mean he can't do a

10:24

worse job than anybody else that's going in there

10:26

II know it's a lot of pressure on him

10:28

and you know a lot of guys don't don't

10:30

don't get that first job where they coaching LeBron James

10:33

and Anthony Davis. He's definitely blessed with that but at

10:35

the same time, it's not an easy job. It's not

10:37

easy as people think. It's gonna be a hard job

10:39

for JJ but II think he's up for it and

10:41

I'm confident in him. You know what I'm saying? Like

10:43

I said, I'm I'm I'm happy for him but I

10:45

understand the side what everybody's saying too. Yeah. I mean

10:47

I hear that also he knows not get it whether

10:50

it's white privilege or LeBron privilege at the end of

10:52

the day, I don't think JJ could worry about this

10:54

**** uh the job is his now and there's been coaches

10:57

that have come from similar circumstances

10:59

that don't have coaching experience and

11:01

have been successful in this space. So

11:04

uh I'm not worried about that part. II

11:06

think JJ's going into the hottest seat in

11:08

professional sports and you have to perform

11:10

or they're gonna get your **** out of there. So I think

11:13

it's important for him to surround himself

11:15

with the good staff. Like I said,

11:17

I saw Jamal this weekend and talk to him actually

11:19

talked to Rondo yesterday too. So it'll

11:22

be interesting. Um if either of those two guys

11:24

or maybe even both those guys uh get an

11:26

opportunity to coach alongside JJ. I think he needs

11:28

to maybe uh you know, an older veteran um head

11:32

assistant or assistant um which

11:35

will help but you know, that's why I

11:37

don't want to cut your map but that's why it'll

11:39

work what you just said because we're we ain't never

11:41

seen no coach or staff where it's

11:43

all players like that. You know what I'm saying?

11:45

Like now, if what you're talking about that that'll

11:47

make it work because we've never seen a staff

11:50

like that and that's my whole thing

11:52

Jack today these days. So obviously execution and exenosis

11:54

are important but to me, it's less about that

11:56

and more about relating to the players and I'm

11:58

even I'm even seeing that at the. you know,

12:00

the high school stays, the junior high stage, it's you

12:03

got, you got to be able to relate to these

12:05

people to get through to them and gain their trust

12:07

and then try to take them to where you feel

12:09

like they need to go. So I think JJ will

12:11

be good at that. I think he's going to bring

12:13

some younger people in a good mix of probably older

12:15

people into help facilitate that. But

12:17

you know, I wish him the best of luck. Again,

12:19

I hear all the noise and this white prayer was

12:21

this and the brown prayer was that at

12:24

the end of the day, again, JJ can't worry about that shit. He's got to

12:26

go out there and he's got to get a

12:28

job to do a tough job to do. So I'm definitely looking

12:30

forward to seeing what he

12:32

does. Sam Cassell, you know,

12:34

someone who I played for, he

12:36

was assistant coach on Doc River staff, got

12:38

a chance to know Sam really well. Great

12:41

dude. Will he

12:43

be passed over? Will he get any kind of

12:45

look? 15 year assistant,

12:47

I'm not mistaken. He's one of future,

12:49

is it one championship assistant? This is

12:52

first. I think his first

12:54

championship is an assistant. Don't, don't, don't quote me. I

12:56

think he has three. Yeah. Yeah. He was a player.

12:58

One is a good assistant. That's right. But Jack,

13:02

sometimes these guys get stuck in

13:05

these guys with a

13:07

ton of basketball IQ, get

13:10

stuck in the assistant coach, the job and

13:12

their career assistants and it's, it's solid money.

13:14

It's a good living, but they never get

13:17

that first seat. So I

13:19

wonder if Sam will be someone that kind of falls victim

13:21

to that or, or someone really going to give him a

13:23

shot. What do you think? Uh,

13:25

I mean, I hope he gets a shot. I mean,

13:28

that's my OJ too. Um, when I

13:30

came in the league, he was my, um, my

13:33

counselor at the rookie transition program. Um,

13:35

Sam has always been solid, you know, even when I

13:38

was coming up playing in Houston, he used to always

13:40

show me love. And I think this point, like when

13:42

you pay your dues, Matt, when you win championships as

13:44

a player, when you be on teams where you won

13:46

championships and you coach for a long time with some

13:49

of the greatest coaches, I don't think it should be

13:51

a point where two point where they keep pushing you

13:53

to the back of the line. But what reason we

13:55

don't know, you know what I'm saying? Because it's a

13:57

lot of things going to, you know, you

14:00

know, I'm like, that's the reason. Yeah.

14:02

Go ahead. Some some people say, you

14:04

know, some people say he he

14:07

he don't interview good but I'm like, what does that mean?

14:09

He has the end of the

14:11

interview is in the education and the experience is the

14:13

best teaching he have all experience in the world. So,

14:15

if if you want to interview him,

14:18

the interview is just should be my

14:20

resume is right here. This is what I've been doing this how long I've

14:22

been around the game but but but you know, when you go

14:25

to them interviews, they don't go the same for black and

14:27

white. So, you know, saying he's

14:29

not the first and he's not the last.

14:31

It's it's been it happens. It's been going

14:33

on for a long time and I think Sam, you

14:37

know, going to do what he got to do it into it into

14:39

the opportunity to come and if it don't

14:41

come, you know, I'm saying

14:43

I think it'll be fucked up but I think Sam will

14:45

continue to be a professional continue to be one of the

14:47

best you know assistant coaches you

14:49

can you know I'm saying that stay around as long as you

14:51

can but he doesn't have to be a professional. You know, I'm

14:53

saying that's just the best coach he can. You know, I'm saying

14:56

that's just the best coach he can. You know, I'm saying that's

14:58

just the best coach he can. You know, I'm saying that's just

15:00

the best coach he can. You know, I'm saying that's just the

15:02

best coach he can. You know, as long as he can but

15:04

he definitely deserve that shot. Yeah, I mean, the one thing I

15:06

will say is I mean, I think we've all seen the influx

15:08

in and in black coaches in the NBA. So,

15:10

when I see that and I

15:12

see more black coaches than we've ever had, I wonder

15:15

what has been the reason why he hasn't really got

15:17

that opportunity whether it be interviewing, maybe people don't feel

15:19

like he's the like someone that can demand the respect

15:21

in the locker room. I don't know what it can

15:23

be but you know, being

15:25

around him and being like, oh, he's a guy that he

15:27

should have gotten a look but also, there's a couple of

15:29

the guys that come to mind. Our brother Phil Handy, someone

15:31

off shore. It was interesting that, you know, with his resume

15:35

when he's been able to accomplish if he's won

15:37

what four championships as assistant. I don't know. We

15:39

talked about it. The

15:41

way he reacts and relates with the players

15:43

and how much the players **** with him to me. I'm thinking

15:45

like if I'm really a GM or if I'm

15:47

a GM or I'm an owner, that's the kind of

15:49

**** I'm looking for in a coach and he's

15:52

a perfect example of it and our

15:54

brother Rico Hines is a perfect example of being in the game. Thanks,

15:57

toast. And it knows the game. It can relate

15:59

to these guys. and he can get through these guys. So, you know,

16:02

I'm definitely hoping, you know, Sam, Phil, and

16:04

Rico, um, all get a shot in these

16:06

next coming years because they definitely, um, you

16:09

know, deserve it. We

16:12

were in Alabama

16:15

while LA was going crazy.

16:18

Play that like that. That

16:21

Juneteenth concert jacket did a lot. It

16:24

did a lot. And, you

16:26

know, from what I'm seeing, they

16:28

just actually just shot a video to

16:31

not like us, I think two days ago, uh,

16:33

in Compton. This wave is

16:35

crazy right now. This Kendrick wave, uh,

16:37

first of all, what he was able to do

16:39

June, Juneteenth and, and, and, you know, sell out

16:41

the form and bring

16:43

all those different black

16:46

men and women together

16:49

on that stage. And I'm not even in the games. I've been

16:51

in LA for a long time. You know, I don't play that,

16:53

you know, that I'm off to the side. I know everybody, but

16:55

I don't fuck with it. But if I'm not mistaken, there was

16:57

at least eight, 10, 12

16:59

hoods in there. You know, mostly, uh, I'll

17:03

just leave it like that was a lot of people

17:05

that he was able to bring together on that stage

17:07

for, for unity, even if it was for one night,

17:09

a lot of people calling that one of the most

17:11

historical things that have happened in music, particularly hip hop,

17:15

uh, for our culture. Um, so

17:17

what was your thought when you seen DeMar

17:20

and, and Russ and just all them

17:22

other rappers up there and unified

17:25

this, this Drake and Kendrick beef overall

17:27

really bought the West coast together. But

17:29

I think what he did on

17:31

Juneteenth took it to another level. Yeah,

17:34

man. I know. I know Park smiling down, man.

17:36

I know. Oh man. I know Park smiling down.

17:38

Damn. Maybe Nip. Oh, that's all about to say

17:41

that too. I know. I know. I know Park

17:43

smiling down, but I was going to say I

17:45

know Nip was in the building. Nip,

17:48

Nip, Nip, Nip was in the building

17:50

because for, for, for, for it

17:52

to get to this point where, you

17:54

know, he, he, he already, you know, didn't

17:57

put the nail in the coffin with the

17:59

battle. and to do this show

18:01

in Juneteenth and bring everybody out to show

18:03

their unity on the West Coast where, you

18:05

know, gang violence has been so high and

18:07

people still trying to glorify it, for him

18:09

to bring everybody together on that stage on

18:11

that day, you know, on one of his

18:13

biggest moments, man, that said a lot. That

18:15

said a lot, and not just for hip

18:17

hop and not just for the West Coast,

18:19

Matt. I think it's just for everybody,

18:21

everybody that was able to see that and understand

18:24

the magnitude of what Kendrick did, you know what

18:26

I'm saying? You don't have to be from the

18:28

West Coast to understand the magnitude of what he

18:30

did. If you're from any neighborhood or any city

18:32

where you come from the bottom, when you see

18:34

stuff like that, you know what that means, man.

18:36

So I got to salute him, Top Dog, and

18:38

everybody that was on that stage, man, because that

18:40

was a beautiful moment that we all can embrace

18:42

and appreciate. Yeah, it's been a different frequency, a

18:44

different buzz in LA of light.

18:48

And obviously I think that's attributed to what

18:50

Kendrick has been doing. And to me, it's

18:52

above the back and forth beef, you know

18:54

what I mean? Both

18:57

these guys are very talented, you know,

18:59

although I feel like Kendrick has done

19:01

this thing and kind of shown, he came out on top

19:03

of this. I think Drake is still going to be fine.

19:05

Drake is a talented motherfucker who makes hit after hit after

19:07

hit after hit. But again, I look

19:10

at the bigger picture of what he's been able to do, Kendrick,

19:12

as far as this unity and bringing

19:15

everybody together. So I'm interested to see what this

19:17

video looks like. There

19:20

was no violence, thank God, but they were able

19:22

to shoot the Not Like Us video just the

19:24

other day out here in LA. So definitely looking

19:26

forward to drop. Before we move on to the

19:28

next topic, there's a little video showing, it looked

19:30

like a lot of people are

19:33

saying it, that Savannah had to tell, Bron, you got

19:35

to sit this one out, bro. You

19:37

got to sit this one out, stay here. You're not going

19:39

on that stage. And obviously, you know

19:41

how close him and Drake are. But

19:44

I don't know, it could be complete fact. I thought he

19:46

was on stage. Oh, he didn't make his way on stage?

19:48

No, he was back in the bullpen. He was in the

19:50

bullpen. He didn't get to go up on stage. So a

19:52

lot of people are saying that the wifey

19:54

held it back on that one. Ha

19:59

ha ha! Yeah,

20:02

yeah. You know, bro, I

20:04

wanted to get out. Yeah, you know, bro, I wanted to get up on

20:06

that on that. It just felt like an electric

20:08

moment. Again, that was the night of the game. The

20:11

king of LA. So my homies was sentiment.

20:13

Yeah, some of my

20:15

homies. That shit was live.

20:17

So unfortunately he had to sit

20:20

that one out. But again, great night for hip

20:22

hop. Great night for LA and the West Coast.

20:24

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23:46

move back to the Pacific

23:48

Division since we're talking about West Coast,

23:50

Alliance and Unity. Um,

23:53

the Lakers, Jack, just named a new head

23:55

coach. Um, from

23:58

what I'm hearing, do they have money to go? go

24:00

out and possibly get a third

24:02

star. Who is a good third star to

24:05

slide in and play alongside AD

24:08

and Bron in your opinion? I

24:16

would go somebody that

24:20

can guard his score.

24:22

So Jimmy Butler, Paul

24:24

George, type of guy.

24:27

Take a little pressure off Bron.

24:29

He really wants to be a

24:31

point guard. So let

24:33

Bron facilitate and take a little pressure

24:35

off scoring from him, a little

24:37

load off of him and then also on defense

24:39

as well. He's not going to really get out

24:41

there and guard the best guy. So a guy

24:43

like Paul and Jimmy will do it every night.

24:46

That's a good point. I mean, is it a

24:51

scoring and defending wing or is it

24:53

a true point guard that can get

24:56

everyone else going and taking the load off

24:59

of Bron and being able to set up AD

25:01

because we know D-Lo is more of a scoring

25:04

point. You know, Austin Reeves played point for

25:06

them. Obviously Bron plays point. I

25:09

wonder, is it a wing or is it more

25:11

of a point guard that can get everyone else

25:14

involved and also score the ball and play some

25:16

defense. So it's going to be interesting to see,

25:18

you know, what they're able to do with that.

25:20

And with Boston

25:24

winning, Matt, and when Boston's Boston

25:26

showed a lot, it

25:29

showed a lot to the league in the finals. You

25:32

can't have no, you can't have one weak

25:36

link out there against a team like that.

25:38

Everybody got to be able to shoot. Everybody

25:40

got to be able to guard and everybody

25:42

got to be able to talk and communicate

25:44

on D. Boston didn't make no mistakes on

25:46

defense. That is made mistake after mistake after

25:48

mistake. And that's why Boston has such a

25:50

great record in the playoffs because they hardly

25:52

made mistakes on defense. They communicated. I

26:00

mean, you know, you can be you

26:19

know, for him to be in the shadows

26:22

or you get that big deal. Tatum, take a small

26:24

step back. Tatum, take a brown,

26:26

take a step forward. Him go out to

26:28

the finals MVP, dating a little

26:30

pretty girl from the Chicago sky like Jaylen

26:32

Brown's life is mother **** good

26:34

right now. Yeah. To the homie, the friend

26:37

of the program and I'm happy for him and Tatum.

26:39

Uh you know, so much talk that they

26:41

need to break them up. They can't do

26:43

this. They can't do that. They finally got over the hump

26:45

and their and their window still open. So, it's going

26:48

to see what they come back,

26:50

how much better they get and and and what they do to

26:52

the league next year.

26:54

uh Malik Monk, homie, super homie. I think he's expected

26:56

to go back with

26:58

the Kings after for him. He was up with

27:01

that six man year running before he got

27:03

hurt at the end of the season. So,

27:05

really happy uh for him. Clippers

27:08

are out of the staple center and

27:11

moving into their own building. Will it

27:13

be without Paul

27:15

George? You think he's

27:17

staying? You think he's going Jack? What do

27:19

you think the vibe over there is? I think he'd

27:21

be staying in LA. He's going to be in the leg uniform but

27:23

I really think it's a possibility. He might go back to

27:26

the gym. I think right now, it's

27:29

about the Clippers not giving him what

27:31

he's looking for and there's going to be uh you

27:34

know, there's going to be other situations. They're

27:36

going to give him more. So, I don't

27:39

know. It to me, it's less. I think I don't

27:41

know. Silence right. No, no, no. I'm

27:43

just saying, is it the money or

27:45

is it the fit for him at this point? Yeah. I

27:47

don't know what he's looking for right now. Um uh

27:51

similar with clay Thompson. You know, clay is, you know,

27:53

wants more I think than than I, you know, he

27:55

thought the Marco would be a little bit hotter for

27:57

him but I'm hearing it's not as hot as he

27:59

possibly. I thought it

28:01

would be. I'm here. I'm actually crazy

28:04

enough. I flew to flew

28:06

up and back with CP to

28:09

Arizona this weekend to watch our kids play. And you

28:12

know, he still he said he still got more juice

28:14

and was telling me some some pretty interesting Golden State

28:16

stories. But I'm hearing a lot right now

28:18

that he can come back to L.A. with either the Lakers

28:21

or the Clippers. So, you know, Chris is a

28:23

little bit older, but a lot of moving part.

28:26

That's a hell of a pickup for them. That's

28:30

both. You can get both of your eyes. War.

28:33

But you also got to think and I love

28:35

both them, Clay and Chris, but they're older. You

28:37

know, Chris is going to be 30 a this

28:39

year if I'm not mistaken. I

28:41

think Claisen is early to mid 30. So

28:45

interesting summer man. A lot of big moving

28:47

parts. Some some young free agents

28:49

out there. It'll be interesting to see where

28:51

that where where everybody shakes out in lands.

28:55

So Phoenix hired Boonhoser,

28:58

who helped Milwaukee get a

29:00

championship, Giannis. But he was really on the

29:02

hot seat up until that point. Our

29:07

brother Fisdale was a holdover. So he's on the staff.

29:09

So to be able to see what he's able to

29:11

do with that team. But similar to

29:13

the Lakers, you know, not not teams that aren't built very

29:15

well. But but, you know, and obviously Phoenix has

29:17

a ton of money on the books with their three big stars.

29:20

So tough situations to

29:22

jump out and head coach. You

29:26

got something? Yeah, I'm just

29:28

thinking like, but but it's

29:31

a great offensive mind. You

29:34

know what I'm saying? Like when I was in San Antonio,

29:36

he was over the offense and Mike Brown was over the

29:38

defense. Phoenix needs

29:41

defense. They don't have no problem scoring points.

29:43

Phoenix needs a point guard. They

29:45

need defense to know they have no problem scoring points.

29:49

Yeah, Phoenix definitely needs somebody that can

29:51

make plays for all them big fellas though, because they got

29:53

a lot of guys that put the ball in the basket,

29:55

but no one to really get them in

29:57

their spots. Speaking of former,

29:59

you know. you know, Philly or excuse

30:01

me, Phoenix head coaches, Marnie Williams is out

30:04

after one year signing the biggest deal

30:07

for a head coach and to me, it's like

30:10

I think this is just a poor look under

30:12

Detroit Pistons. I mean, you know, Marnie is a

30:14

two-time NBA coach of the year. They

30:16

threw all this money at him. I expected him to

30:18

what change the color of

30:21

water in in one year. I'm

30:23

confused on what they were looking

30:25

for but for Marnie, you know, Marnie

30:27

got 60 to 70 million

30:30

between Phoenix and and and in Detroit

30:33

that that is coming his way. If

30:36

you're Marnie Jack right now, do you pop into another

30:39

situation? I think I know your answer. You just kick back

30:41

and let this money pile up a little bit. Yeah,

30:44

I mean to to to the point

30:46

where okay. Yeah, I'm

30:48

straight. The money come in from this

30:50

couple of years. That's all good. If

30:53

I I would take a break because my

30:55

next situation has to be a situation where

30:57

I can actually succeed. You know what

30:59

I'm saying? Don't send me to a team like the bad news

31:01

best. You know what I'm saying? Don't

31:03

don't don't don't do that. You know what I'm saying?

31:06

Send me to a team like you do JJ. Send

31:08

me to my first job. Send me to

31:10

Braun and AD. You know what I'm saying? Give me

31:12

a fair shot until then. I'm gonna sit here and

31:14

just collect your money. So that's what I would do.

31:18

Yeah, again, two-time coach of the year. A lot of

31:20

money owed to him. There's always seats

31:22

coming up every season. So yeah, I think you know,

31:24

if I'm him, I'm sitting this one out and something

31:26

amazing comes out and and sit back, you know, after

31:28

his son's in high school too. So get to spend

31:30

a little bit more time with

31:32

the family. You know, get to be

31:34

a father. So it'll be interesting to see what

31:37

goes on. Stephen A

31:39

Smith turns

31:41

down a deal for 95 million

31:44

over five years. Who would have ever **** thought

31:47

we're talking about people in the

31:49

media getting sports deals? Obviously,

31:52

that wasn't enough. Allegedly,

31:54

he wants twenty-five. Uh

31:57

the offer was eighteen which doubles his salary.

32:00

was funny though Jack as I I text him

32:02

just randomly on this on this congrats bro happy

32:04

for you and he's like a hold on not

32:06

yet I

32:09

said congrats happy for you get that money

32:12

knowing that he turned the deal down so I'm thinking more has

32:14

to be coming because he's a commodity I

32:16

think ESPN is gonna have to break the bank for him

32:19

but he said no others this ain't

32:21

it so I think he's really going

32:23

for some monumental type shit and

32:25

although you know you guys don't always see eye

32:27

to eye I always want you

32:29

know our people to to to go

32:32

ahead and break the bank so being seen if

32:34

ESPN can can keep him because if they don't

32:37

they've been losing a lot of talent of late

32:39

and they've cut a lot of talent out and

32:41

you know this the shift in sports media is

32:43

definitely changing so what are your thoughts when you

32:45

hear you know media

32:48

talent getting over a

32:50

hundred million dollars in salary you

32:52

you are what you negotiate even

32:54

though even though we disagree we ain't one thing

32:57

man you ain't never did hate it on somebody

32:59

getting their money and we never will you know

33:01

saying there ain't one thing about it I see

33:03

it I see it another way man

33:05

they throwing all that money to Tom Brady and

33:07

all of them let us get some of that

33:09

money let us get some of that money Brady

33:11

got 375 and he ain't no media right? but

33:15

I'm just saying he got that they threw a

33:17

room with some money when he came out of

33:19

that all them football players like like bro when

33:21

you look at all these telecasts and all these

33:23

big games these white people right and they getting

33:25

them big checks and I ain't mad because I

33:28

watch them they all good and I enjoy all

33:30

of them especially on the football side but let

33:32

us get some of them big checks so you

33:34

know we disagree but Stephen A from your boy

33:36

go get that bag go get it motherfucker yes

33:39

sir go get that bag happy for

33:41

him man good luck with that man

33:44

Sean Kemp episode Jack Peeple motherfucker

33:46

big goon they love it they

33:48

love it and

33:51

remember the day though too that was a hell of a day

33:53

for us but because you know he got into a mix up

33:55

with his agent and missed two flights and I'm just like nah

33:57

I and I told the whole I went out to the whole

33:59

crew I'm like listen, we're gonna get

34:01

this shot. We did three interviews that day

34:03

too. Remember, we like like a like a

34:06

like a five hour break. And yeah, we

34:08

didn't we didn't start shooting him to like

34:10

nine or 10 o'clock. Yeah, but

34:13

it was well worth it. Great dude. Obviously, we

34:15

both were fans of them. But I've never chopped

34:17

it up like that with him before. And you

34:19

know, we fellowshiped after and he told more crazier

34:22

stories and then what he told on the show.

34:24

And it was just, it

34:26

was a beautiful thing to have someone of his

34:28

caliber who I think sometimes people forget about. Yes.

34:31

Pop out, you know, pop out and show him.

34:33

You know what I mean? How great he was

34:36

and you know, we all hope he gets into

34:38

the Hall of Fame, but he has some stories

34:40

and and he's real successful after basketball too in

34:42

business. Yeah, the cannabis shit and Seattle legend. He

34:44

he told us to come he an open invite.

34:47

He wants us to come to the live show

34:49

in Seattle with him and GP which I think

34:51

will be **** banana. So, oh

34:54

hey, catered by Catfish Corner. My family

34:57

Catfish Corner. So, yeah, we

34:59

did it out and show some love to

35:01

the Pacific Northwest. Jack, we

35:04

had a lot of success and I think I

35:06

really think our show's sweet spot is talking to

35:08

these NBA legends and yeah, NBA

35:10

stars of the past who are any

35:12

after seeing the success of the Sean

35:15

Kim episode, any people that come to

35:17

mind for you that that are that

35:19

that may be forgot about legends. Great

35:22

players that we need to go after. Well,

35:24

it's it's it's just it's just one

35:27

where it's two for sure that I

35:29

feel that we both were

35:31

fans that we both want to show.

35:34

LJ Larry Johnson. Yes. Grandma Ma and

35:37

and my second one was who was

35:39

my second one just had and I

35:41

forgot it was my mom. No, it

35:43

wasn't Spreewell. Spreewell is definitely one of

35:45

them. Yeah. It'll come

35:47

back to him but Grandma Ma for

35:49

sure. Jay Spreewell Larry

35:51

Johnson. Steve Smith.

35:54

That's who was Steve Smith. Yeah. OG

35:56

Steve Smith. Yeah. Reggie Miller. Oh yeah.

35:59

I mean, we know we both been trying

36:01

to get a hold of the red. You

36:04

know, y'all tell us in the comments what

36:06

Larry Bird man. Somebody take this.

36:08

Hey, listen, let's hold on. Hold on. So, let

36:10

me let me go. Let me go. I'm saying

36:12

Larry this shout out so we can go and

36:15

cut it and I can post it with so

36:17

I remember vividly bro when I after after I

36:19

won the championship, I didn't get

36:21

my big deal dispersed. So, I had to go

36:23

to Atlanta for one year and after I was

36:25

in Atlanta when y'all balled out. I remember sitting

36:27

on the block MPA on my homeboy. I was

36:30

in the house outside getting the phone call from

36:32

Larry Bird. I asked the phone like Steven Jackson

36:34

like this. Larry Bird. I'm tripping out

36:36

me and everybody my homeboys everybody like what the ****

36:38

I'm you know, I stood up. He was like, welcome

36:40

to Indiana. So, I remember vividly when you called and

36:42

gave me my six year deal and I and I

36:45

never got a chance to tell you thank you but

36:47

we would love to have you on our show. Please

36:51

listen to this invite to think about coming to bless

36:53

us. You know what I'm saying? Larry Bird, please go

36:55

on show especially the way like I

36:57

said, we we've just heard so many people tell

36:59

us not only the player but I want to hear

37:02

the **** talking **** to Larry. Yes. I want to

37:04

hear his stories on that side of it. Sean Kemp

37:06

is telling us about that. Right. You know me a

37:08

lot of people. Magic's told us everyone has told us

37:10

Isaiah's told us everyone has told us

37:12

how he moved man and and and I love going

37:14

after people who don't talk that much. You

37:16

know what I mean? Because anything they say is just like,

37:19

oh damn. You know what it means? So, Larry,

37:21

we need you baby. Yes, sir. Lock

37:23

in Jack. I sent you

37:25

some random **** last night not even knowing

37:28

that we're going to talk boxing today. Yeah.

37:30

But what I sent

37:32

you about tank and how tank was breaking down

37:34

Shakur's game and there was video evidence behind everything

37:36

he said and I told you he's starting to

37:38

think the fight. He's starting to think the game

37:41

not play the game and

37:43

I've I've told you this. I felt like

37:45

I feel like every single fight tanks tools

37:47

are sharpening and getting better and we obviously

37:49

know what that left hand is like. He was in the locker

37:51

room with him at his fight a

37:53

little while ago. Talk to us

37:55

about where he's at who you think he should fight

37:57

next and yeah. you

38:00

know, how he continues to improve.

38:05

Uh well, well, Matt, you're exactly right.

38:07

It's like the way it takes you back last night.

38:09

You're exactly right. I think even his

38:11

last five fights for the last four

38:14

fights, he's just been a different tank. You

38:16

know, he you can tell he's been boxing

38:18

since he's as a kid. Uh he's studied.

38:20

He's studying his opponents. Um I think he's

38:22

he's he's able to set up guys so

38:24

much to walk into punches but

38:26

people don't know. Tank is a great he's

38:28

not one punch. He can punch with both hands.

38:30

He got a chin, you know, a slip punches

38:32

like he he's a great boxer and he and

38:34

he's showing that he's showing that he's mastering his

38:36

craft. Um I think his

38:38

next fight might be Lomachenko but everybody wants to

38:40

see him fight Shakur and I think that's the

38:43

fight that that that that all all the fans

38:45

want to see because that's the best fight in

38:47

boxing. Uh people talk about Shakur um

38:50

and uh it's not has not been entertaining in

38:52

the past which is true but and

38:54

because I said that too but I would never disrespect him and

38:56

say he's not one of the best in the world right now.

38:59

My skill set is called his his

39:01

skill set is his skill set is at the

39:03

top is his skill set is elite. You know

39:05

what I'm saying? So um and uh

39:07

he's hearing all the talk. He he's that

39:09

good. Well, he's hearing all the talk and you know, I think

39:11

this next fight coming up, he gonna try to really knock this

39:13

guy out and hurt him because a lot of people saying they've

39:15

been running and all that and so I think

39:17

he gonna have this fight tank on the fight Lomachenko

39:20

and I think that that they'll meet up somewhere after

39:22

that but uh maybe they're at the end

39:24

of the year but they but that's the fight everybody

39:26

wanna see. I think that's

39:28

gonna be for me because I'm fans of both of them.

39:30

So that's definitely what I wanna see.

39:32

Absolutely uh Garcia band for one year uh you were

39:35

vocal about this. I didn't get a chance to hear

39:37

what you said. I read your caption cuz I couldn't

39:39

listen to it at the time but I and I

39:41

forgot to go back and listen to it but uh

39:43

thoughts on the band uh and where

39:46

Haney goes from here uh well well with Garcia, you

39:48

know we uh we even had words on um in

39:51

my DM two days ago. We uh cuz he

39:54

he was mad what I said about him. He said he

39:56

said he's gonna come out that he didn't cheat but now

39:58

you cheated you know what I'm saying and and

40:00

that's what the test said. That's what I told

40:02

him. I have a question. And I've done, I

40:04

didn't dig, dig surface level. I heard it was

40:06

a supplement he was taking

40:08

that had a small

40:11

amount of whatever is

40:13

illegal to

40:15

not have. So, you know, my question with

40:17

that is obviously it's illegal. So that's on

40:19

him and his team to know that. But

40:22

I don't think it played, and I could

40:24

be wrong because I've never fucked with enhancement

40:27

shit to, you know, for

40:29

an athletic benefit. I

40:31

don't think that shit had that much to do with it, Jack. I

40:34

think that motherfucking left hand, man.

40:37

Well, I will say this. Getting

40:41

hit with a left hand from somebody

40:43

that's not on steroids and

40:45

getting hit with a left hand with somebody that's on

40:47

steroids. But it wasn't steroids. They

40:49

said it wasn't steroids, right? They said it

40:51

was some kind of small supplement. Go

40:54

ahead. Well, anything that's, that

40:56

enhances your performance is cheating,

41:00

right? Especially if it's banned,

41:02

if it's a banned substance, it's cheating. Now,

41:04

this is nothing. He already came

41:06

into the fight, not even trying to

41:09

make weight. So he wanted to be, that's

41:11

one sign he wanted to be big and strong in the fight.

41:14

All week he was doing things, acting like he

41:16

was crazy, smoking and drinking. And

41:18

that's a lot, that's showing signs of

41:20

people who are on steroids. They're really

41:22

emotional, they're up and down. They do

41:25

it, but so, just

41:27

like I told him, when we had him on

41:29

the show, I said, bro, I'm a fan of

41:32

you. I wanna see you fight again. But I'm

41:34

just going by what everybody else's saying, but what

41:36

the test's saying, what the people who over the

41:38

box commission, what they saying, they suspended you for

41:40

a reason. So whatever you had in your system,

41:42

you shouldn't have had in your system. Point blank,

41:45

okay? I

41:48

definitely wanna see him and Haney fight

41:50

again. You know what I'm saying? When he makes

41:52

weight, because it's weight classes for a

41:54

reason, the boxing, bro. They do that for a reason.

41:57

And you can't just break the rules and do it your way.

41:59

You know what I'm saying? So I definitely want to see him

42:01

fight again. Haney. He has to redeem himself.

42:03

Yeah, we talked about the steroids But he'd like to say

42:05

he took a beat down. He took a bad beat down,

42:07

you know I'm saying but He's

42:10

gonna take some time away like he said You

42:13

know I'm saying just to get his mind right and kind

42:15

of shake that ass whipping off because it was the bad

42:17

beat down For him to take you know I'm saying but

42:19

it wasn't it wasn't on it

42:21

wasn't on even playing even playing field And if it

42:23

was we wouldn't even be talking about this man Yeah,

42:27

like I said, I didn't do a deep dive, so I don't want

42:29

to speak to what it was it wasn't From

42:32

everything like the surface level I did reading like I said

42:34

it was something in a supplement I heard but like you

42:36

said if his band is banned You

42:38

wouldn't be get suspended right? I like Haney But

42:41

I also feel like and a lot of people

42:43

felt like Loma beat Haney to so

42:45

he did Come

42:47

on man, so my question is where

42:50

does Haney go if he takes some time

42:52

off sharpens up? Does he find something that's

42:54

gonna get his confidence back like you're you're

42:56

someone that's really in boxing I just smoke

42:58

weed and watch it like where does

43:00

Haney go? From here

43:02

he come back he come back and take a

43:04

tune up and then try to fight Ryan

43:06

again when Ryan come back That's that's

43:08

that's all he can do okay. He

43:11

still got his belt He still got his undefeated record, but

43:13

that don't matter no more because I because of the ass

43:15

whooping he took you know I'm saying I love all these

43:17

young boxes, but I call the spade a spade you took

43:20

a badass whoopin day Deb and you got to take it

43:22

to another fight try to get your mojo back Then you

43:24

gotta get you gotta get your you gotta go put the

43:26

L back on a on Ryan hard You

43:28

can't fight nobody else. I'm mad at that The

43:31

fight that we've all been looking

43:34

forward to and in hoping that it comes

43:36

true Bud Crawford and Canelo

43:38

Jack with that fight happened at the end of

43:40

the year I

43:44

think it is man I think that fight could happen

43:46

because you know I think Canelo is tired of all

43:49

the noise and I think this is the this is

43:51

the fight that Everybody wants to see

43:53

and it's gonna be for a lot of money and I

43:55

think I'm a lot of them up But but has

43:57

a fight coming up and I think that's the setup to

43:59

the the the the the the the right

44:17

now and and and and and there's

44:21

some Saudi money coming in

44:24

here and and and the group that had

44:26

some stuff to do with you know it's

44:28

it's really interesting

44:30

to see you know where

44:33

boxing goes right now. You know, obviously

44:35

with Showtime cutting boxing and Showtime boxing

44:37

was as hot as it's been in the

44:39

long time. It's kind of an open market right

44:41

now and it's it and in the

44:43

sport is in a good spot. Yeah. I mean,

44:46

we you know we were blessed to you

44:48

know take over you know

44:50

that the VIP from Showtime and and and start

44:52

all the smoke fight something

44:54

you're front and center of and we got the

44:57

same thing. What was that? That's what I wanted to ask

44:59

you. What was that? You had to miss a big three game

45:01

but you told me the energy for for for

45:04

all the smoke fight was

45:06

crazy at the time. You know, you know, the

45:08

press release came out the day before the fight weekend

45:11

and I was down there doing the way in and

45:13

all that stuff and a little press for all the

45:15

smoke fighting and all the smoke boxing and people saw

45:18

that we we took all took over all

45:20

Showtime stuff. So, everybody was interested to see what

45:22

was next Matt. What y'all doing next?

45:25

Um first off, we're going to talk about even

45:28

even a Marisa from W from W. I think

45:33

it's WBC. He he came into

45:36

us and he was like, man, bro, I'm just I'm

45:38

just so happy. I'm just so proud

45:40

of y'all to see what y'all doing for boxing. We appreciate

45:42

it. He started even congratulating me about

45:44

the neo's, the mask, how you heard about

45:47

that and he was like, man, whatever y'all

45:49

want to do in the boxing space, please

45:51

let us know. We happy out here that it does so

45:53

people want to know what where where

45:55

and so people people, you know, they they people trying to

45:57

put their bids and how can I get out and I

45:59

can't. that be a part of it because they

46:02

see where it's going. Man, we got some dope **** coming up too.

46:05

Not to cut you off, Jack. Some big talents we're

46:08

about to sign and announce and some

46:10

crossovers we're about to do and hosting in

46:12

the near future. Uh we're going to be

46:15

doing this. We're really excited about um

46:18

all the smoke fight in particular boxing uh

46:20

as well with MMA. Alright Jack, the

46:24

summer is here man. Favorite childhood

46:26

memory played in the neighborhood

46:28

in the summertime. Mauricio Sulu. My shout

46:30

out to him. Go ahead. Say

46:32

the game. My favorite childhood memory growing up

46:34

at PA. Favorite childhood. What was your favorite

46:36

thing you guys did in the summertime around

46:38

the neighborhood? Uh

46:41

my favorite thing doing around the neighborhood was

46:43

probably uh definitely playing

46:45

basketball but thought we uh we played Thor tackle. I

46:47

think that was my favorite game to play.

46:49

Um you you you we played Thor tackle

46:52

when it was when the grand when it didn't

46:54

rain because when it rained mosquitoes were bad so we had to play

46:56

in the street and you only can hit hit somebody when it was

46:58

by the curb. Uh but Thor tackles our game.

47:01

I got a couple

47:03

things. We played all the sports. Tackle

47:06

football on the street. You said only by the curb. We was

47:08

tackling wherever the **** we got it at. He

47:12

was playing woof woof woof woof ball. We used to go

47:14

down to this broken backboard and play

47:16

basketball around the corner. Swim at

47:18

the apartment pool and then. What about

47:20

hide and go get? Did y'all play hide and go

47:23

get? That was a little bit later. Those are the

47:25

team. This apartment complex we

47:27

used to swim at that was there

47:30

was some keys actually lost to their

47:32

home at fourteen. But

47:36

that and then it was funny. So we used to

47:38

have this we lived in

47:40

this neighborhood really mixed neighborhood blacks

47:42

Mexicans white hells angels everything was

47:44

in there but it was

47:47

just one of like lower high maybe

47:49

higher lower class. I don't even know

47:51

what the **** terminology was. It wasn't

47:53

horrible but it was it

47:55

was just a regular old neighborhood and my dad

47:57

used to keep like golf golf link grass like.

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