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she is. The

1:00

most beautiful girl in the

1:02

world. Just kidding. It's,

1:05

uh, it's Christine and me. How

1:09

are you? Who could it be?

1:11

Which one of us is the pageant queen?

1:13

The pretty little girl. It's me. Well,

1:17

I mean, it might as well be because when we hopped on, you

1:19

said you look pretty for an

1:21

ugly person. Well, you said you look pretty. Then you

1:23

paused. And then I said, we'll wait till you hear

1:26

about my day. And you said, well, I was going

1:28

to call you ugly, but I guess I won't, which

1:30

I think you thought was a nicer thing to do.

1:34

I was just trying to, you know, keep,

1:36

keep the love alive, keep you on your toes. And

1:38

then you said, oh, I'm actually having a bad day.

1:41

And I went, oh, well, we'll save it for tomorrow.

1:43

But it's not even like a bad. Well, well,

1:46

it's just interesting. Anyway, why do you drink this

1:48

week? I'm going to let you go first. Okay.

1:51

That actually is probably, wow, we're also starting

1:53

real hot. It hasn't even been two minutes.

1:55

Usually we do 15 minutes of forgetting to

1:58

do our job. Nobody, nobody knows what's. Yeah,

2:00

I'm gonna eat my chocolate orange. You

2:02

tell me why you drink. Oh, I'm not gonna eat

2:04

it. I'm gonna mute it so everyone's not mad at

2:06

me, but I'm gonna eat it while the mic is

2:08

muted. Okay, wait, wait, wait, before you bite it, before

2:11

you bite it, because I'm gonna need you to

2:13

be my hype up background support

2:16

audio. Ready? Uh-huh. The reason I

2:18

drink is because we wrote

2:21

another book. Whoa,

2:23

whoa, whoa! How do we, hang

2:25

on, what is it, hang on. What

2:28

was that? Oh, shit. I

2:32

can't hear the sound. It's perfect, leave it, it's perfect,

2:34

it's perfect. Oh, my God. Don't change it. Well,

2:37

I know we did a PSA in front of

2:39

the episodes right now, but I know people also

2:41

skip through those sometimes, I also skip through ads,

2:43

I understand, but I just

2:45

wanted to make sure everybody knows we wrote another book.

2:48

And- We did, and we should probably sprinkle it out

2:50

through our stories too, for the people who skipped the

2:52

intro. We'll just like, scream it. We'll just be like,

2:54

we wrote another book, okay. We're like, oh,

2:57

I wrote, this person wrote a book about it. Hey,

3:00

we wrote a book, didn't we? Oh, yes,

3:02

yeah. I'll just add a

3:04

random note in. Fun fact about

3:06

books, even though we're not talking about books at

3:08

all. No, we wrote another book,

3:11

but just before you skip through this,

3:13

we wanted to say, first of

3:15

all, I can't believe we wrote a second book. I

3:17

can't believe we wrote a first book, but I don't think

3:19

anyone can believe it. I know, and

3:21

it was very, very hard, and I drink because

3:23

we can finally talk about it. And

3:26

it was very hard. It's not easy

3:28

to write a book. Everyone that's ever done a

3:31

talk show and said it was not easy was

3:33

telling the truth. And I think

3:35

one time- Really a time super easy. Well,

3:38

remember that one time we were on, we

3:41

did an interview on some like news outlet and

3:43

they were like, how was the process?

3:45

And I literally said, not good,

3:47

I hated it. Terrible, terrible.

3:50

It's the worst thing I've ever done. I was like, it's

3:52

the most fun I'd ever wanna have again. And-

3:56

I actually, I just wanna say I'm super proud of this one.

3:58

I was super proud of our first one. Obviously. but

4:00

this one like I read it and

4:02

I was like man we like I

4:04

think personally we leveled up. I. Think

4:07

that it and it's like even funnier than the

4:09

first one of the not so like tude our

4:11

own horn but I am really proud of. I'm

4:13

really proud of it and the covers really fun

4:15

and cool and it's on preorder right now it

4:17

is. So the reason I'm bringing it up again

4:20

and why is so crucial right now. To tell

4:22

you all about it is because. We

4:24

are. Not the experts here, but

4:26

please trust this that we heard from

4:29

those who are experts that numbers wise

4:31

it works out much better for us

4:33

if we get preorders vs orders from.

4:35

The book is on shelves yet and

4:37

so if you are so inclined we

4:39

would love if you could pre order.

4:41

It and set of wait until September

4:43

when it comes out Man tag. I'm.

4:46

Not trying to beg, I just want everyone

4:48

to be on the same page as of

4:50

yet. They only if only halfway through this

4:52

episode. Christine will already be desperate, but. Nobody's

4:55

even answered, but I'm sorry, upset, unlike

4:57

please. No,

5:00

I. I. Only mention it

5:02

because I personally I didn't know this and

5:04

if I were to ever do a book,

5:06

even. Like an audiobook I'm I never

5:08

preordered and ever get personally so.

5:11

Okay well welcome the club Ellison a lot of

5:13

podcast so anytime a particular hit the books they

5:15

talk about this but. Basically.

5:17

All the preorders count toward your first week of

5:20

sales, so. When the book as release,

5:22

all the months of sales count toward

5:24

the first week, so feels a little

5:26

like. An unbalanced, but that's

5:28

the same for every book. So. Essentially,

5:30

that's how you end up in the rankings is.

5:33

Ah, the preorders counts for that first week. The that

5:35

first week of release is when we find out like.

5:37

That. People order it. is it like

5:40

popular you know? So it is

5:42

a huge help to pre order

5:44

the book and you can do

5:46

that with on our website. We

5:48

also have it's a bit lead

5:50

fit that allies/h r a next

5:52

stop or that's a little spoiler

5:54

for the title Next stop. Yeah

5:56

A Be liza I am. We.

5:58

Just wanted to the by. in my reason that

6:01

I drink. First of all, it is a real reason why I

6:03

drink. I'm so glad we can finally talk about it. And because

6:05

I feel like there's been a few times where like, I feel

6:08

just run ragged and I could not tell

6:10

people why. So, um, so

6:13

there's that. Or you can just go to our website.

6:15

You can find it. It's also in our show notes.

6:17

We're gonna put the link in our show notes too. So you

6:19

can just, we're gonna put it everywhere. We won't, you

6:21

won't be able to avoid it. Anyway,

6:24

I didn't mean for this to come off as

6:26

such like a intense PSA, but I know

6:28

myself well enough that if it wasn't at the

6:30

forefront of my mind right now, I wouldn't remember

6:32

until we were done recording. And I just wanted everybody

6:35

to know. So, um, I

6:37

drink because it's finally done. We can finally talk about

6:39

it. Oh, and my

6:41

TV decided to change into a

6:43

target ad. So that's why I'm now

6:46

sitting in the red dark. Anyway, well,

6:49

the deep, um, well anyway, while

6:52

this ad plays out on my YouTube light,

6:54

can you please tell me, Christine, why you

6:56

drink? You don't have YouTube.

6:58

What does it matter with you? Like every

7:00

YouTube premium, like a normal person. I do.

7:02

I do. It's, it's, this is RJ's old.

7:04

There it is. It's RJ's old TV and

7:06

he wasn't on it and I still just

7:08

have never signed into my own account. You're just in his

7:10

account. I'm just in his account and

7:12

he, every day he probably looks at his own YouTube search history

7:14

and it just says

7:20

beige background. Is

7:22

that what you do? You play like beige. I

7:24

was like, do you have like animal, like a

7:27

wildlife scene? Like what's playing? No, I

7:29

just see it's like a basic. There's

7:31

no, I'm still in

7:33

an apartment, so there's no ceiling lights. There's no real lights

7:35

anywhere. So I just have to work with what I have. Yeah. And

7:37

also because I have glasses,

7:41

the, the ring light is it. So

7:45

this ended up working out better because it's kind of angled away

7:47

from my face and all that. So in

7:50

theory, it's a good idea until all of a

7:52

sudden target wants to tell me I should

7:54

go shopping again there. So anyway, they're like, I

7:56

know you just got home from target, but we have some more

7:58

stuff you might like. So evil. Anyway,

8:01

Christine, why do you drink? You

8:03

tell me. Well, okay,

8:05

I mean, happily. Here's the

8:07

thing. I've been like stacking

8:11

my reasons. Like I've been like, oh, here's a good

8:13

reason. And then I'm like, oh, here's another good reason.

8:15

And then I need you to know, Em, we

8:17

have not recorded since March 18th. So

8:20

I'm like, wow, we have

8:22

like three weeks worth of stuff that has happened

8:24

that I would like to address or not even

8:26

like to address, but I just wanna say it.

8:30

So I'm gonna say it in just like a listicle

8:32

format and like you do not need to maybe don't

8:34

react or

8:36

don't respond until we're at the end.

8:39

And then you choose your own adventure if

8:41

there's anything you wanna elaborate on. But I'm

8:43

just gonna have to like just blurt this

8:45

list out because- I

8:47

already know a few that are gonna be on there, but

8:49

I'm excited to hear you say them. I think you might know

8:52

the first one, which was that I

8:54

drove us directly off the highway into

8:56

a snow bank, okay? That's number one.

9:00

The second one is, oh, by the way, us, I mean

9:02

Em, Eva, Eva's

9:04

partner, Rachel and me. And I

9:06

drove us off the highway, spun us out. Anyway, it was a

9:08

whole thing. Second, we

9:11

went to Salem. I went for the first time ever. Em

9:14

and I got a couple's aura reading and learned

9:16

so much. And we stayed in the

9:18

most haunted building in Salem. That's two. Number

9:20

three. This was by the way,

9:22

within four days of our last time

9:24

recording. So that's like how long ago

9:26

this list has been in creation. And

9:29

the Salem was within four days of you crashing us into

9:31

a snow bank. Oh, it was

9:34

a day after, yeah. So, exactly. So, literally

9:36

24 hours. Then one

9:39

day, Blaze was like, oh, I'm gonna step out for a bit.

9:41

I don't, the gym, like my jiu-jitsu gym is closed. And I

9:44

was like, oh, where are you off to? And he's like, oh,

9:46

I'm getting a tattoo. First tattoo ever.

9:48

He is a- Okay, keep going. Yeah.

9:51

It's of a chupacabra.

9:54

Okay, we'll get there. Next. I

9:57

went to Columbus South Fallaboy and someone- at

10:00

the hotel stole my AirPods and I've been tracking

10:02

them and alongside the police

10:04

have been trying to get them back. That's the whole

10:06

thing. They're in so much trouble.

10:10

I'm like, I know where you live. I

10:12

was like, Christine knows your blood type. I've

10:15

already done a background check. I know who you

10:17

are. I know your blood type, exactly. Next

10:20

Easter morning, I woke up and suddenly I

10:23

said, why do I have like 600 emails?

10:25

Well, it's because I mentioned my

10:28

little Etsy store and it went absolutely haywire and

10:30

I have created now an entire business. I have

10:32

a label printer. I'm like, I just like, what

10:34

am I doing? All of a sudden I'm mailing

10:36

all this shit out. I'm having the best time.

10:39

So thank you to everybody who has ordered something

10:41

and made my day. So those should

10:43

be coming to you soon. Next,

10:45

I got home and I realized my prized possession,

10:48

my Leona diamond and sapphire ring

10:50

was missing. And I

10:52

like freaked out and I thought I had left

10:54

it like lost it just in a hotel or

10:56

on the plane. I mean, you've heard about my

10:58

fucking AirPods. So I'm like, oh no, like I'm

11:00

never gonna get that back. It doesn't like, I

11:02

have a tracker. And so Eva was

11:05

talking to the venue trying to find it. They were looking

11:07

everywhere. I called the hotel. And

11:09

then I just had this like moment where, okay,

11:11

let's tie into my next point, which is I've

11:13

started taking psychic classes. And so I

11:15

was like, oh, there was a whole course on how

11:18

to find a lost object. So I tried it and

11:20

I'm sitting there and I'm meditating and I'm like asking my

11:22

guides and they were like, they literally,

11:24

it was like B line. I went upstairs. I

11:27

grabbed my backpack that I travel with. I reached in

11:29

the side where my water bottle goes and it was

11:31

in the bottom of that pocket. And I

11:33

was like, oh my God, I found it. So I got that back.

11:38

Then like I said, I started taking psychic

11:40

courses. It's going really freaky and really well.

11:42

Then I started learning tarot. So every day

11:44

now I'm pulling tarot cards. I really wanna

11:46

start learning so I can do real readings

11:49

for fun for my friends. Next,

11:52

I was planting my new lilac tree and

11:54

I found this creepy statue of a saint

11:56

in the ground the day that I asked

11:58

my guides for a sign. Turns

12:00

out it's, I'll send you a picture,

12:02

it's really quite upsetting. And

12:05

I would also like to add that when I pulled this

12:07

little statuette out of the ground, it

12:12

was totally by surprise because we had

12:14

had our yard completely redone last year,

12:16

like it was just dirt before. And

12:18

so they had bulldozed that entire area.

12:21

So I don't know how this thing ended up, but I just sent it to the

12:23

group chat, but I

12:26

found this like maybe three centimeters below

12:28

the dirt. Tell me

12:30

when you see it. We can also post this on

12:32

Instagram. Right? I'm like,

12:34

what is this tiny thing? And look, they've planted

12:36

everything there. It's not like it's

12:39

been sitting. I don't know. It's very creepy

12:41

and unsettling. So then that happened.

12:43

And of course now I have my own,

12:45

I've done all these spirit guide exercises. There's

12:48

a whole Egyptian background and knows about it's

12:50

a whole thing. Then

12:52

I put, we wrote a book that's like a

12:54

minor little update within this list. Then

12:57

last night I found out that my, remember

12:59

how I had started that short story, like

13:01

competition or whatever. So

13:03

I found out that I made it to the next round. And then

13:07

to celebrate, I started eating

13:09

some stale, a Cabot's cheddar

13:11

popcorn. And I cracked

13:13

my entire molar in half. And

13:17

this morning I had to go to

13:19

the emergency dental clinic and they had

13:21

to take it apart and

13:23

it went all the way down to the

13:25

root. So now I need an emergency tooth

13:27

extraction and an emergency implant,

13:30

not an emergency implant, but

13:32

a new implant, an implant of a new molar.

13:34

It's my back molar. So that's

13:37

what I'm up to. That was kind of just like a timeline

13:39

of everything that's happened. So

13:41

hello, I'm here now. I just

13:47

like, I needed to just say everything. I couldn't

13:50

leave it as is. I just had a lot

13:52

to say. I'm sorry. It's just a lot. I'm

13:55

so glad I mentioned the book before you because

13:57

it was going to get buried. Footnote.

14:00

Yeah. Yeah. Wow,

14:03

where to start? I

14:07

can't. I'm like, oh my god. Are you

14:09

in pain currently? How are you eating?

14:11

It's like I'm like they said

14:13

just eat on the other side and I can't go

14:15

get my tooth extracted until Tuesday So

14:18

they just put- Tuesday? Yeah. Bitch

14:20

it's Wednesday. That's like a whole

14:22

week. I know! I

14:24

know. What the hell? They

14:26

put like a temporary Sealant

14:29

over it and they're like that'll last for a

14:31

couple weeks I

14:33

don't believe them. I would literally go to a different-

14:35

I would literally go to a different dentist that day

14:37

I'd be like we're pulling it out immediately. Oh my

14:40

god. Ah! It

14:44

reminded me of the time your mom broke her

14:47

tooth eating soup. And you

14:49

know what? Again, another person who did not

14:51

react appropriately because I- she

14:54

Literally pulled it out like soup and

14:56

then she pulled it out. I was like,

14:58

oh, here's my tooth I was like girl,

15:00

you have to be kidding me What

15:03

do you mean? I

15:05

texted my brother. Whoa, my story made it to

15:07

the next round. He goes Christina. I'm so proud of you Congratulations,

15:09

and I wrote back what do you do? Literally this is

15:11

how quickly it happened I was like, what do you do

15:14

if you break your molar off but half of it

15:16

is still like attached and he was like, um, I

15:19

don't know Yeah, they had to like-

15:21

why are we recording today girl? You could have literally said

15:23

absolutely not. Well, I almost I almost

15:25

texted but then I was like, oh my god What if

15:27

like they have an opening tomorrow and I have to go

15:29

in so I was like, you know what? Let's do recording

15:32

today Um, anyway, so

15:34

Honestly, the tooth is like the least

15:36

of my concerns. Like I just don't

15:38

even care at this point. It doesn't hurt that

15:40

much So I'm just over it And

15:43

I don't think I'm ever getting my ear pods back because the

15:45

police don't give a shit which

15:47

rightfully so there's bigger fish to fry out

15:49

there So to speak so, you know,

15:51

whatever it's like i'm just starting to have to

15:54

let go of certain things like my brand new Airpods

15:56

that cost me like your teeth dollars And

15:58

My teeth That cost me. You

16:01

know because he is the because you zero.

16:03

And so later than they cost of a

16:05

lot precise then suddenly wow yeah all the

16:07

sun you want your like return on investment

16:09

from the tooth fairy are like actually wait

16:11

a minute, Wait a minute only. I'd like

16:13

a refined i guess act. and yes, That

16:16

like I was giving them away and I

16:18

know like oh no those are worth something

16:20

or like sense You cracked a tooth and

16:22

half. Technically. Do you get

16:24

money to make plays? Well they didn't give

16:26

me the other aerial mike will sit. No

16:29

other. Give me a picture of the

16:31

x ray oil ray. Absolutely not. About.

16:34

Not what you gotta put. Up tell you that my

16:36

and about away the popular wouldn't even good because

16:38

it with stale like it was good. Few weeks

16:40

ago and I remember. Eating and being like is not

16:42

even very good. and then I continued to eat it.

16:46

And he went. You know, off he announced

16:48

his life does girl he thinks you know.

16:52

What I'm. And. Blaze is

16:54

getting a tattoo. For those who don't know, Blazes

16:56

having a bit of a journey these days and

16:59

later in the. Best

17:01

way possible by like were

17:03

actually even. That I would you are in

17:05

around. We talked about Blaze a couple weeks ago. We were

17:07

like. Really zoo in

17:09

a lake? He is kill it's. We

17:12

were like we sing his praises for like half of a

17:14

meal. Oh, that's nice.

17:16

But he is. he's going through or

17:18

I don't know what he's going through.

17:20

Of he's going through anything but he's

17:22

having some sort of awakening and a

17:24

self guided journey I suppose. And. Flourescent

17:26

A really is a keys his

17:28

students jujitsu like he got a

17:30

hair your high heat on alla

17:32

yeah Heinz's males he got i'll

17:34

bust. Leona. Painted nails every week before

17:37

jujitsu to make sir he has the right like

17:39

you get up colors and so he's do a

17:41

nice and then one day he's never got a

17:43

tattoo on his whole life One day he just

17:45

said oh I'm in I had out on like

17:47

where you going these like oh I'm getting a

17:49

tattoo and I was like oh. Okay

17:52

far be it for me to stop

17:54

You have fun And he came back

17:56

and he had this right here on

17:58

his arm. This adorable. Little Chupacabra from

18:00

the Book series that we read with Leona

18:02

and so his and her favorite book. Is

18:05

on. His. Don't Eat

18:07

meat Uber camera and they read it

18:10

all the time and. So.

18:12

He got that like on his on his arm and you

18:14

know, at work. When I result, I

18:16

run a. What

18:19

Leona Renee my child said the second

18:21

she thought she was like a cheaper

18:23

places like yeah I got it You

18:25

know because it's our favorite book and

18:27

she said and mommy gets print this.

18:31

Out. Of you know why

18:33

I heard them on the monitor and belief went yeah

18:35

maybe mommy will get cramp as and i was like.

18:37

Ah hello and said I'm in

18:39

contestant for the soul searching for the

18:42

lie. But I'm a know, I

18:44

know, We all knew with the it's like

18:46

c news is like okay next. Next.

18:48

Yeah yeah. That's

18:51

lovely. That's beautiful. Yeah,

18:54

I was in. it's it's happen in

18:56

things are happening. I. Feel like

18:58

I'm even though I'm curious. But some other

19:00

things I feel like. Our audience will before

19:03

we get into things will wanna hear the

19:05

Snow big Story and your Salem? Oh. Oh

19:08

okay it well I'll just say other snowbank

19:10

story was ridiculous if you are following us

19:12

on Instagram that day we were trying to

19:14

get. From. New Hampshire

19:17

to. Or to. Overload,

19:19

Beverly, Massachusetts and I'm We had

19:22

this car that was looks like

19:24

it has four. Wheel Drive St.

19:26

Louis just. Didn't. Give us

19:29

four wheel drive. And the rental car.

19:31

And so. When it was a matter

19:33

even though sort of old. Neighbors of

19:35

snow from anyway inches in in

19:37

Vermont where we were a well

19:39

as us and that was as

19:41

being trying to be wise about

19:43

it because after our show. Good.

19:45

Night before which ends at like midnight.

19:47

We decided hey to beat the snow,

19:50

let's at least drive half way to

19:52

night and so like right I yam

19:54

way into winter like a fucking random

19:56

ass hotel on the size of highway

19:58

in New Hampshire. So we're like,

20:01

oh, we escaped the worst of the storm.

20:03

I mean, technically. Then we got like thirteen

20:05

into that day and Eva shoveled the carlton

20:07

and goes. Case that, like the cars kind

20:09

of suck. I'm not getting any traction. So

20:11

then we went into like six that mode,

20:14

right? And everything. I and a half hours

20:16

for Two and a half hours. Like. He

20:18

was partner rachel's upstairs boiling pot of water

20:21

because they have these like little kitchenette it's

20:23

like up residence in or something and she

20:25

comes running down with like a for boiling

20:27

pot of water and it we hand them.

20:30

Off like some sort of like crazed

20:32

what is it called assembly line assembly.

20:34

But it was like row it at

20:36

the fires. It was the smallest pot

20:38

on earth is so racial would come

20:40

down to fully porn on one tire

20:42

and then after. Run up and boil water

20:45

all over again. Simple them are liars. And

20:47

then like I was stealing every type of

20:49

bath mat this place hiring really want outside

20:51

with. Like. A rubberized rug and

20:53

we were like where did you get that? It's

20:55

like an industrial rug and M's like the floor

20:58

of the elevator. We. Were

21:00

just like cleaning. This plays out of of

21:02

their like a corporate A supplies that they

21:04

buy from some weird catalog and I were.

21:06

I feel like if we could get that

21:08

on top than maybe to be could get

21:10

the tire to roll up. survive on that

21:13

sort of how we literally with Conrad those

21:15

like the yellow caution though glass heroes when

21:17

I and we were using that as a

21:19

shovel could the didn't even have a shall

21:21

not really clear the smell. Oh yeah, they

21:23

don't worry, don't have a shovel. I'm like you're a

21:25

liar. We're in New Hampshire. And we were

21:27

all the way in the back of a parking lot.

21:30

Like to get out of the parking lot would have

21:32

been like a five minute walk and so we it's

21:34

not like we were just we had to get our

21:36

current a one little parking area and then we would

21:38

have been fine because the entire hotel. Or

21:41

driveways, some. Parking Lots of semi

21:43

all the way as our road wasn't of are

21:45

paved. Will that with source part

21:47

of that. We repeatedly kept getting stuck so

21:49

we had to keep doing these dumb ass

21:51

like Little Six said situations that weren't really

21:53

doing much and then eventually we finally got

21:55

out with a clear to fly down a

21:58

tow truck. He was like hadn't even. this

22:00

hotel parking lot and I'm like yeah that doesn't

22:02

surprise me they don't own a shovel and he was

22:04

like okay we'll get you out. He pulled us out

22:06

three times. He got stuck again,

22:08

pulled us out again then I'm like guys

22:10

we're on the road we've made it I

22:13

spun I spun the car twice on like

22:15

giant four-lane highways oops we're suddenly facing traffic

22:17

going the wrong direction I'm like guys it's

22:19

fine I've got this and the

22:22

confidence is out of control because I

22:24

was like no you do not

22:28

but okay okay you're the one by the wheel. I really

22:30

thought I had something going

22:33

and so I finally got us on

22:35

the highway we're like coasting I'm like okay we're going

22:38

and then all of a sudden there's like a

22:40

little bump and the car just

22:42

decides you don't own me

22:44

anymore and just start like careening off

22:46

of the fucking highway and so there

22:48

was like a little pole and I

22:51

was like I'm just gonna focus on

22:53

not hitting that fucking pole so

22:55

we did not hit the pole thank Christ but

22:58

we did like completely plow into the side of

23:00

the road and was like I'm

23:02

getting it I so I kept trying to get us out

23:04

which and was like not having well I okay to be

23:06

fair I know that it's stupid to get out of

23:08

a car on the side of highway I do know

23:11

that but I was yeah because I dreamed of that

23:13

you 16 times no I've

23:15

always known that expert no I've

23:17

always known that but I still thought it was

23:19

more worth it by the way the highway was empty

23:21

like we weren't like it wasn't like we almost risk

23:23

hitting somebody else it was just us for a long

23:25

time on the highway but the

23:28

car was in a snowbank at like a 45 degree

23:30

angle and Christine was in her obsessed

23:33

I'm going to fix this situation and

23:35

I was starting to think if she

23:37

just pedaled to the metals into a snowbank the

23:39

car was gonna topple over on my side and

23:42

then I wasn't gonna be able to get out

23:44

and I was like fuck this I'm out of

23:46

the car you do it every one I'll just

23:48

watch from over here where there's no cars coming

23:50

anyway and you you do it just burn yourself out

23:52

because I can't be here anymore and literally

23:55

just screamed like then get out and so

23:57

then I'm gonna I was like hopefully goodbye

24:00

Eventually, Em got in the backseat and was like, if

24:02

you're making me send the car, I'm sitting in the

24:04

back and I'm like, great. So all three of them

24:06

are crammed in the back. I'm sitting in the back

24:08

closest to the window that will be upright so I can

24:10

be the first one out of the car. I

24:12

mean, seriously, you're like, I'm gonna put

24:14

myself in the safest place I can

24:16

inside the vehicle. So finally, we got

24:18

ahold of a tow truck and I

24:20

stopped my persistent revving

24:23

of the engine because that's all it was. And

24:25

finally, this tow truck came and he gets out and

24:28

he goes, and we all get out of the car

24:30

like a clown car and he's like, there's

24:32

a lot of you. You're gonna have

24:34

to stay in the car when we tow you,

24:36

but buckle up and don't tell

24:38

anyone. Oops, too late. So we

24:41

were like, we don't care. We'll sign our

24:43

waivers, our safety away. Just take us away

24:45

from this highway. So they got

24:47

us in and then somehow, this was the

24:49

craziest part, Rachel's back there and

24:52

he's like, oh, there's this service called like

24:54

door to door, something or other that, so

24:57

we just called them on a whim. Like we're trying to,

24:59

every rental car place is closed. Eva

25:01

called them and is like, can you take

25:03

us from here to Beverly, Massachusetts,

25:05

which is like an hour and a half, two

25:07

hours away. And they were like, sure. And

25:10

we were like, when? They're like, now? It

25:13

was the wildest part. And so she goes, oh, we'll

25:15

send Ken. So this man shows up in

25:17

this big ass car and he's like, hey, hop

25:19

on in, I've got orange soda for you. It

25:21

was like our garden needle. And we went, you

25:23

got it. And

25:26

the craziest part was I went on to

25:28

find it later to like the right review

25:30

or find their phone number. It like does

25:32

not exist. It's not on Google maps. It's

25:35

not on anywhere. It's on Apple maps. It's

25:37

only on Waze, I think.

25:40

I'm like, how, none of us would have found that. Like, I don't

25:43

know. The business didn't exist on Google. So I'm

25:45

like, Ken was a guardian angel, I think, because

25:47

orange soda is my favorite. So he must've just

25:49

like swooped

25:51

down from the heavens. I don't know. I gotta tell you,

25:54

I gotta tell you, yeah,

25:57

we drove directly to the venue. We had

25:59

to end up. for like a half

26:01

an hour for us to even be able to set

26:03

up for the show but like the whole time we

26:05

were there we were like racing the clock like people

26:07

were already waiting outside of the theater when we pulled

26:09

up after having this like whole day

26:11

excursion trying but I will tell you in

26:14

in that car after doing

26:16

hours of digging and by the way

26:18

we were not dressed for this kind

26:20

of snowstorm I was the most California

26:22

bitch about this I had I had

26:24

like I had the the most breathable

26:28

thin ass sneakers with no

26:30

socks on and my for my shoes they were

26:32

like Walmart shoes so it was just I was

26:34

just standing in snow for hours we at

26:36

some point gave up on the shovels we were

26:39

just digging with our hands for hours I mean

26:41

we were soaked and sweaty and awful but

26:43

that two-hour ride in that heated van

26:46

that was a map of a lifetime

26:48

so unconscious that I was like checking

26:50

your breathing really every few minutes I

26:52

was like not the first time okay

26:55

yeah and so I

26:57

mean no definitely not so

26:59

anyway it was just wild and that by the way

27:01

I just want to remind everyone that was number one

27:03

on my list and all right later on there's like

27:05

we wrote an entire book you know I mean

27:07

but this this was probably the

27:09

most deserved story I just knew we would

27:12

forget to talk about it because it happened

27:14

three weeks ago so I wanted

27:16

to put it out there but yeah we you guys it's

27:18

all good so you

27:20

got to have your Salem experience you were there for

27:22

a day we met a lot of people who stopped

27:24

and said hi to us I was very lovely we

27:27

did a lot of shopping Oh Christina I did so

27:29

much shopping oh we oh

27:32

that was also the same trip that

27:34

Delta broke half of my suitcase off

27:36

and so the wheels so I was

27:38

like dragging that through the snow and

27:40

my suitcase ended up filled with snow

27:42

and I was like trying to I had

27:45

to like end up like you did

27:49

you did to like shipping stuff home and I had

27:51

to like pack another suitcase to bring stuff home we

27:53

bought so much crap like

27:55

so much beautiful witchy stuff in Salem

27:57

so you know my favorite wand

28:00

place. I could squish things

28:02

through that wand place. We got

28:04

wand. We ate some yummy food.

28:06

We got a secret tour to

28:08

a haunt attraction that is open

28:10

currently, which was fun. Anyway,

28:13

I'm glad I got to be with you during

28:15

your Salem experience. I am too.

28:17

It was like the best way to recover from kind of

28:19

a traumatic day. So I'm

28:22

surprised at some point that day we didn't

28:24

say a hundred times, we needed this. We

28:27

needed this. We know what?

28:29

I think we just both knew it so clearly

28:32

that like telepathically that we did not need

28:34

to say it aloud. I think we were good. We

28:36

know. We know. Well, anyway, I think

28:39

you win the award. I

28:42

think no, I don't want an award. Please don't give it

28:44

to me. It will break like an anvil

28:46

and hit you in the head. I will

28:49

probably break a foot with it by mistake. And

28:54

also the the the other reason why

28:56

I drink is that we have one

28:58

last show of our tour and then

29:00

it's over. And so it's very weird

29:02

that we're about to. So sad. We

29:04

have spent it's one thing that I

29:06

don't think a lot of people realize is that you and

29:08

me and Eva, we are never in

29:10

the same room anymore together unless we're on tour.

29:12

And so now that it's over, it means we're

29:14

probably not going to see each other all that

29:17

much until we're on a tour in the fall.

29:19

And so yeah, or y'all have to come be

29:21

groupies roadies for the beach. She Sandy summer tour,

29:23

which is apparently how I do things now is I

29:25

just I'm always on tour either with you or my

29:27

brother, which is quite sick. I don't know how

29:29

you do it. It's sick. It's sick is what

29:32

it is. Yeah. Anyway, go

29:34

see Christine while I'm relaxing on on

29:36

vacation. Christine is going to still be

29:38

on the road. Probably dragged to like

29:40

several. We'll see. At least

29:42

I don't have to be on stage. You know, I love told someone

29:44

we told everyone you'd be in

29:47

DC at the DC show. That show sold

29:49

out in like five minutes. And I was

29:51

and then you had like a whole welcoming

29:53

committee there. So maybe I will be coming

29:55

to one of the every city. I'll

29:58

be at every city. You just won't

30:00

see them because they'll be hiding out

30:02

in a special section. I

30:04

will be at some of the shows, but

30:06

I'll let everyone decide for themselves what those

30:08

are. No, it's such

30:11

a weird situation because

30:13

half of me is like, even though I don't

30:15

want to be on stage because of my own

30:17

issues with that, I get jealous that you're on

30:20

stage with somebody else. But then at

30:22

the same time, I'm like so happy that I don't have

30:24

to work. And so I'm like, I don't know how I

30:26

feel. I'm so conflicted here. What a complicated roller

30:28

coaster of emotions. I know. But

30:31

then you get a whole fan base anyway. People are coming up

30:33

to you and... I know, but I feel bad. At

30:36

the last one, I had to start turning people away. No,

30:38

it was amazing. Well, I know that part. Because I was

30:40

like, it's not, I don't want it to be about me.

30:42

It was you and Zandi. So I... Well,

30:45

no, no, I loved it because I was

30:47

like, this is great because that's the venue

30:49

where the bathroom is like across the whole

30:51

lobby. So Alexander would peek out and be

30:53

like, okay, M's distracting them. And I would

30:55

just like run past you to the bathroom.

30:57

I was like, M has everybody distracted. This

30:59

is the best setup. All right. Hey,

31:01

well, then you are welcome, I guess. But you're going

31:03

back to D.C. and Props. So you want to join?

31:05

Let me know. I have

31:08

I'll always find a reason to go back home.

31:10

So, yeah, sure. And

31:12

my mother will probably be my date again, which a lot

31:14

of people seems to be very excited about. So I

31:17

was. I certainly was. OK,

31:19

well, everyone, you got your 30 minutes

31:22

in of us talking about nothing related to our

31:24

podcast. I hope you had fun. And

31:27

wait that. The book was

31:30

related to our podcast. The

31:32

book was related. I was going to say,

31:34

I mean, technically it was all a toe

31:36

dip in. I almost killed both hosts of

31:38

this program and the producer. And

31:41

you would have done it with flying colors, Christine. On

31:45

a bad day, I wish you did. So I don't know what

31:47

to tell you. Maybe

31:51

if you knew if you knew you were

31:53

going to crack your fucking molar the same week, everything else happened.

31:55

Maybe you would have driven a little faster. I don't know. Honestly,

31:58

I don't think I could have. I think you saw me and

32:00

there was no way I could have made it any faster. I

32:03

was really gun in it. So

32:06

anyway, those are the reasons why we drink. I don't

32:08

think we've ever had more reasons in a single episode.

32:11

So please, please, please, on our behalf. I

32:14

cut a bunch out. They didn't make the

32:16

cut. So yeah, folks, just drink

32:18

for... We all have all these crazy reasons, but

32:20

yes, everybody drink on our behalf, drink

32:22

on your own behalf. We will be joining. Dare

32:25

I say, this is your weekly

32:27

reminder to drink some water, you thirsty

32:29

little rats. Oh, no, no, I'm like

32:31

drink some vodka. Squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak.

32:33

I guess if M1C to drink water,

32:35

go for it, but I'll be drinking

32:37

Chardonnay. I don't know. It's

32:40

my stepdad's birthday. So I'm making Blaze Drive and I'm

32:42

like, let's party. It's your reminder

32:44

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32:47

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you're drinking maybe hydrating this is

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where I tell you all about

35:18

a story and this is the

35:20

story of the merchant's house and

35:22

this is different than the merchant

35:24

hotel which we just stayed at

35:26

in Salem. Okay

35:28

I was gonna say wow perfect but not

35:30

the same. Okay the merchant hotel which

35:32

is actually the Joshua Wardhouse

35:36

that was episode girl 59. That

35:41

that means we just had like our

35:43

one year anniversary if you think about it. Yes

35:46

we had like we we fully

35:48

solidified our friendship around this time. Wow.

35:50

And maybe

35:53

a redo is in order but today

35:56

we are talking about something else merchant

35:58

wise. The A according

36:00

to the New York Times is one

36:02

of Manhattan's are Y. One point was

36:04

called Manhattan's most. Haunted house. I don't know

36:06

if. It's so cold that but it

36:09

has been given that shoutout. Others have

36:11

called it the Holy Grail of haunted

36:13

houses. Okay, And

36:15

ah, I do have clips for

36:17

you. And by you I also

36:19

mean Meghan suppose later for people

36:21

to me as. And.

36:24

I will get to those in a little

36:26

bit, but let's start an eighteen. Thirty two.

36:29

And. In New York City,

36:31

this is on Fourth Street. This is

36:34

like an exclusive. Up

36:36

and coming suburb of New York.

36:39

And there's a guy named Joseph Brewster.

36:41

He built a row house here and.

36:44

Eighteen Thirty Two. Seasons. And

36:48

Joseph Bursar. He built a row

36:50

house made out of brick and

36:52

apparently marble. Much I owe. At

36:55

a lotta work. And so the here's the thing. That.

36:58

Is just around upon fi for everybody but he was

37:00

a hotter. And so how

37:02

on earth that a hatter afford a marble

37:05

row house in the hub of New York's

37:07

as he ah that everyone's gotta have back

37:09

then arm. That's what I was gonna say

37:11

is that we discuss this again. He said.

37:14

Three weeks ago so excuse are

37:16

not remembering totally but. We

37:18

didn't say in a recent episode that like there

37:20

was even a go see, like didn't have a

37:22

hat and like people freaked out he didn't have

37:24

a hat or something or oh that's true. yes

37:26

like a ghost in my who came out of

37:28

the fireplace or. Whatever The fuck yeah people

37:31

were like a either. He had a hat and that

37:33

impress people are he didn't have a hat and it's. Concerned

37:35

everybody more than a bag and. Everyone everyone

37:37

like made a point to mention that he

37:39

was not wearing. A hat like it was

37:41

more? Yeah, So we're glad I agree. aim. Yes,

37:44

yes I said And. Like a dick

37:46

Also is like a not with

37:48

the social times. By and eighteen

37:51

hundreds hats were a boom and

37:53

business fum There's no way cause

37:55

I'm you probably do. But.

37:57

Like a mad hatter. Say.

37:59

Wide. Would you like to read my next bill?

38:01

A point verbatim are. So

38:04

excited I was like i have a fun fact. That. That

38:06

I realized, you know more about that whole

38:08

Alice in Wonderland world than I do. With.

38:10

You why? I don't know why. you know I always

38:12

think about you, but I think it's because of the

38:15

hook. A caterpillar. That's the only reason I care

38:17

about our. Okay, I like in my mind that's

38:19

the only connection I have to that book.

38:21

And movie at all. So you're the only tenuous

38:24

connecting ago and the I am honored and that's

38:26

one of my he is one of my. Apprised.

38:30

Characters. Side as their her A

38:32

very rarely do you find a trotsky or

38:34

something of him so when I do find

38:36

something I get very excited about it on

38:39

I love that for you. So.

38:41

Yes, the Mad Hatter In eighteen

38:43

hundreds, business was booming, but it

38:45

was also very dangerous game to

38:48

be a hatter because especially. The

38:51

new silk top hat, Hatters

38:53

because ah, the way that

38:56

they were felted. The.

38:58

Felt had to be stiffens at the time

39:00

it was seven with mercury and so hatters

39:02

were at risk for chronic mercury poisoning because

39:04

they're working with had all the time and

39:07

inhaling it. And.

39:09

Suffers dealt with: mood changes

39:11

era ability, insomnia, memory impairment,

39:13

emotional sensitivity, tremors, all sorts

39:15

of problems at a gas

39:18

i assume after but the

39:20

insanity captain and. That's

39:22

why a lot of hatters during that time

39:25

were considered mad hatters because they were literally

39:27

going mad as they worked on the hats.

39:29

And that's where we get Mad Hatter from

39:31

Alice in Wonderland because he was wearing a

39:34

South Fell said top hat. Hundred

39:36

percent that is. So. Just

39:39

one my favorite fun facts. It

39:41

you know, I bet the hatters of the to. Hundreds

39:43

did not enjoy it like we do today.

39:46

Or. Maybe they were like I'm at a. Navy.

39:51

Neck. I seemed happy on that movie. That

39:53

I watch porn site also unrelated have a smell

39:55

and colors. He was all over him and. He

39:58

was having a good time. Yeah.

40:01

Ah, fun facts just to clarify for

40:03

everyone, you should know this by now,

40:05

but they are not usually fun so

40:07

you know where I could say fun

40:09

fact even if it's really not enjoyable

40:11

for. You know, What? You're

40:13

an artist. Kind. Of an aside from

40:16

fact that is fun. Because

40:18

so do you know? the difference between

40:20

a hatter and a milliner ends to

40:22

you know the difference between those and

40:24

a haberdashery. Know

40:28

Okay the only reason I know

40:30

this is because I had a moment's

40:32

as we know I have created an

40:35

apothecary and the troll whole because I

40:37

could. I think my vitamins and

40:39

less it was. Done at a

40:41

funky cool way and it's to to me that

40:43

means and so saying. I'm. Taking my vitamins, I say

40:45

I'm going to the apothecary. So while I

40:48

was in that space has like oh

40:50

i wanna name other parts of my apartment.

40:53

The things that they used to be. Sounds like

40:55

where do I have a haberdashery in here

40:57

and I just don't know it. like what's

40:59

the haberdashery and so on. Anyway,

41:01

a hat Or a hatter. And.

41:04

A milliner are essentially the same

41:06

thing, except hatters worked with men's

41:08

hats and Milan or sort of

41:10

women's hearts. Oh okay. But.

41:12

A Haberdashers which is like it's such a

41:14

weird gray. Likes: I think you could be

41:16

a hotter. Maybe start like a

41:19

small hadary business and then become a

41:21

habit. Asher later. Or.

41:24

You could downsizing become a hotter from being

41:26

a haberdashers. Because. A

41:29

Haberdashery as someone who works

41:31

with men's clothing. I. Think

41:33

all clothing but mainly men's clothing.

41:37

And like the fine accessories of that.

41:39

So like selling buttons and zippers. and

41:41

like a. Joann Fabrics is

41:43

a haberdashery. Ah,

41:46

even though they don't like make stuff early

41:48

for you, it's like it's like us. like.

41:51

A surplus sealer if I were. Your clothes

41:53

or the you buy the supplies there. So.

41:57

would it be like who would who would shop there

41:59

like the I'm assuming

42:01

like a tailor. Like a tailor would go.

42:06

I feel like in today's

42:08

world if haberdasheries as

42:10

their names expanded I feel like they

42:13

would have kind of made some sort

42:15

of collaboration with like CVS and been

42:17

like half haberdashery, half pharmacy slash apothecary.

42:19

Oh, okay. Well,

42:22

I had no idea. So it's like bolts

42:24

of fabric, that kind of thing. Like

42:27

sewing utensils, buttons, zippers,

42:29

ribbon, laces. Why didn't

42:31

they call it Joanne's

42:34

haberdashery? Girl, you

42:36

said it not me. We'll talk to Joanne.

42:38

I'll ask her. I will say that I- Joanne?

42:41

Michael? So if you

42:43

have a sewing kit, you do have a

42:45

mini haberdashery in your home. I do. It's

42:48

from CVS. Wait a minute. So

42:50

I told you I thought they might have something

42:52

going on. It's like big

42:55

pharma, but big fabric, you know? So

42:59

anyway, I now do call my, where I

43:02

keep all my hats, the hattery on principle.

43:06

And milliners did more like, I think

43:08

like bonnets and things like that. Fun

43:10

fact again, they were called milliners because

43:12

most of the fabrics for women's hats

43:14

came from Milan. And so they were

43:16

called Milaners and other milliners. I did

43:18

not know. I did not know. Look,

43:22

COVID was a crazy time and I needed to

43:24

take my vitamins. For this

43:26

reason only. Okay. Anyway,

43:30

all that to say this guy was, we

43:32

don't know if he was a mad hatter. I don't

43:34

know if he was in the business long enough to

43:36

actually get serious mercury poisoning, but he

43:38

was a hatter. He built this house. It was in

43:40

1832. And three

43:43

years later, he was like, I'm out and

43:45

I'm moving and I don't want

43:47

to be here anymore. That business was

43:50

overwhelmingly good or overwhelmingly bad. Yeah.

43:53

It seems like it was not fulfilling one way or another.

43:56

So he sells his home to

43:59

a man. with a name that just

44:01

feels like Lemony Snicket wrote it himself. This

44:05

guy's name is Seabury Treadwell

44:08

and Seabury is C

44:11

like the ocean, S-E-A, and

44:14

then Berry. Seabury Treadwell.

44:17

Like Berry like a body or Berry as in

44:19

like oops all berries? Love

44:22

that. Berry like a body. Seabury

44:28

Treadwell. That's the craziest fucking

44:30

name I've ever heard. If

44:33

he wasn't a rich man in the 1800s,

44:35

no one was. Name

44:37

alone and he's probably evil. He has a

44:39

secret passageway for sure. He

44:42

has like a twirly mustache, there's no doubt.

44:44

Yes, I feel like he looked like the

44:46

Monopoly man. He's all about capitalism. There's no way

44:48

he's not. Well, you're

44:50

right. I was gonna say the evil version

44:52

but then I went, well, I guess he

44:54

has already a pretty evil version. The Monopoly

44:56

man is not kind to all, I'll tell

44:59

you that. Certainly not.

45:01

Not me anyway. So Seabury

45:04

buys this house and he was a merchant which

45:06

is how we get merchants house but I don't

45:08

understand why you would name a house. If you're

45:10

gonna name a house, why

45:13

would you name it after your profession and not

45:15

yourself? Like the Seabury Treadwell house? Yes,

45:17

right? Yeah, I mean come on. Like the Seabury

45:19

Treadwell – not even house, like the Seabury Treadwell

45:21

– Manor. Manor,

45:25

domain, I don't know, there's some

45:27

better words. A state? The Seabury Treadwell estate? A

45:30

state. Now that has

45:33

some power behind it,

45:35

yeah. I mean I don't think he knew, maybe

45:38

it was like a popular name then and he

45:40

didn't know how powerful it would sound later but

45:42

like to not use that name in naming your

45:44

own home is insane. Agreed.

45:46

Maybe he was a mad hatter. Maybe.

45:52

And so yeah he called himself, he

45:55

called it the merchant's house, which

45:57

house too of all things, like so boring.

46:00

like get creative. And it

46:03

was very exquisite house. It had a parlor,

46:05

it had two kitchens at the time.

46:07

Yikes. It had servants quarters. And

46:10

I will say another fun

46:12

fact is that the bedrooms were painted oyster

46:14

white. Now that got me thinking, Christine, just

46:16

how many shades of white are there? Would

46:19

you like to venture again? Well, I learned, I learned

46:22

that eggshell is not

46:24

a shade of white. It's like

46:26

the patina of the white. It's like

46:28

whether it's gloss, it's like a

46:30

level of gloss because I thought eggshell white is

46:33

like a certain shade. Anyway, fun fact, we're

46:35

full of them today. How many shades

46:37

of white paint or just like white

46:40

paint? Paint. Oh, paint. And

46:43

I did not do at the time of 1835. I thought

46:45

it'd be more fun to do now. Just

46:48

now. Oh, 415. Okay,

46:51

you're not that far off. One website had the

46:53

fucking audacity of telling me over 150,000 shades of

46:55

white paint exist. All

46:59

right. Yeah, relax. I

47:02

guess technically if you put one microscopic drop

47:04

of black in it as we go, yes.

47:07

I guess that's fair, technically. Yeah. But

47:10

I looked up Pantone. So I

47:12

was like, they're probably a fair, a fair

47:14

place to start. And I got different

47:17

answers, but it looked like somewhere between 120

47:19

and 400 shades of white exist

47:23

in Pantone. Okay, I was going to

47:25

guess like 350. So maybe I'll

47:27

just, I'll just stick with

47:29

my whatever I said, 400 some. Yeah.

47:31

Anyway, that still overwhelms me because in

47:33

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47:35

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but I think maybe that was common at

50:02

the time because they needed a place to

50:04

stay when they were spinsters. I don't know. Well

50:06

I think people would come from other

50:09

countries to not

50:11

have much and so they would have to work you

50:14

know like in jobs like this. I think

50:16

a few of them came in that way. Others it

50:20

seems like they like this was

50:22

like they're just career and then

50:24

other people apparently at one point they had one

50:26

Irish servant who was a 14 year old girl.

50:29

I don't

50:31

know her story but apparently all ages

50:34

and reasons for why they were there vary

50:37

but they were usually Irish women. Okay.

50:39

And they were replaced

50:42

every decade I guess they were only good enough

50:44

for 10 years and the Treadwell

50:47

lived in the house for nearly a century so that's 10.

50:49

10 10 so that's 104

50:55

women each. That's like 400 women have passed to

50:57

the house I think. That's like as

50:59

many Pantown colors. I know and they

51:02

were all white I'm sure if they

51:04

were Irish maybe you know there's a good chance of that.

51:07

Anyway I think so. So according

51:09

to an 1855 census

51:13

the servants at the time there

51:15

was up to like 21 people living in this

51:18

house in the 1850s. Jesus.

51:21

It's giving Duggar. No thank you. And

51:25

a lot of them were servants but a lot of them

51:27

were the kids they had eight kids and at this point

51:29

a lot of them were married and I think still either

51:31

living at the house or still had their like official address

51:33

at this house. So how big is

51:35

this damn house? Pretty dark like big

51:38

enough to not be called a fucking house. Like I don't

51:40

know why he called it a merchant's house.

51:42

Maybe he was trying to prevent all

51:44

these people from showing up and they

51:46

just kept coming. Tiny shack

51:49

it's a shack. It's a

51:51

treadmill shack. The Seabury shed. You

51:54

know I feel like he... Oh

51:57

they should have called it the shed well. Okay,

52:00

I see now we're talking. Yeah. Yeah.

52:03

Um, and you know what, you

52:05

might be onto something because Seabury is known to not be

52:08

a very kind person. So maybe he really was

52:10

like, get the fuck out of my very small

52:12

house. Not despite what you see, it is so

52:14

small. That's too passive for a

52:16

mean person. An outwardly mean person would be like,

52:18

this is the biggest mansion you've ever seen. Get

52:20

the fuck out. Yeah. And

52:22

you wouldn't try to like pad his excuses

52:24

with calling it a check or. Uh,

52:28

you know, that's a good point. So

52:31

it was him, his wife,

52:33

they had eight kids and

52:35

their names, their names are

52:37

Elizabeth Horace, Mary, Samuel, Phoebe,

52:39

Julia, Sarah, and Gertrude. And

52:42

Gertrude is kind of the main star of

52:44

the story. So she was the last one to be born. Fun

52:47

fact, she was the last one to live in the

52:49

house. Another fun fact, she was

52:51

the only one to be born and

52:53

die in the house. Oh

52:56

boy. In and out. In

52:58

and out. And she died in

53:00

the house in the thirties when she

53:02

was in her nineties in the

53:04

1930s when she was in her nineties. OK. But

53:08

yeah, she like literally slept, I think,

53:10

in the bed she was born in.

53:12

How fucking crazy. That is crazy. And

53:14

then if she died peacefully in her

53:16

sleep, she was born and died in the

53:18

exact same spot. How trippy. Wow.

53:22

That's so of course she's a fucking ghost

53:24

here. Like literally her entire life was in

53:26

this home. Where else did she get a fucking ghost? Yeah. Did

53:29

she ever go anywhere else? I don't know. Gertrude,

53:33

you got to feel

53:35

bad for her because the New York Times, they did

53:37

an article about her and

53:39

they described her as tiny,

53:41

withered and hemmed in by

53:43

ugliness. Yuck. That

53:45

poor woman. What?

53:48

In the same article, they described

53:51

her style as beautiful but museum

53:53

pieces. Don't put

53:55

a lot. OK. Don't put butt

53:57

next to anything even though Em literally said you look beautiful

53:59

for ugly. person or whatever. But you

54:01

know, that was out

54:03

of friendship, not just being nasty. Imagine

54:06

if I was a reporter and I

54:08

just for no reason without your consent just

54:10

said, you know what, I'm gonna

54:12

write about this. I will say that

54:14

I don't know why they would

54:16

describe people. I mean it's just fucking rude.

54:18

I will say she was dead at

54:21

this point so hopefully she does not know, but

54:23

still why are we talking about a dead old little

54:26

lady about this, like this. So

54:29

yeah, she was

54:31

hemmed in ugliness and she wore things that

54:33

should be behind glass in a museum. Yuck.

54:35

Hemmed in ugliness is the wildest thing

54:37

I've ever heard. Like hemmed it, like

54:40

I feel like sewn into ugliness. Like maybe

54:42

she had a shot. That's horrifying. Wild.

54:45

And this family, they're known like to

54:47

their house this day has not changed

54:49

a lot since it based

54:51

on how it looks in the 1830s and that includes

54:53

their style. So maybe she was already wearing like, I

54:56

don't know, vintage was cool back then, but maybe she

54:59

was just trying out some vintage pieces and then

55:01

the New York Times was like, not

55:04

the look. She found

55:06

like a mercury brimmed hat

55:08

in the closet from the guy who used to live there

55:10

and was like, I guess I'll wear this. Okay,

55:13

but that would be a cool story. I

55:15

think so. So yeah, she

55:18

was not described as the

55:20

best looks wise, I guess, but she

55:23

was also known to be a recluse and

55:25

she never left the house, probably because she

55:27

was so ugly. And she

55:30

really didn't change much about the house and she was a kid.

55:33

So when she died there, and she was

55:35

the last of the treadwells to live there, the

55:38

house was kind of described as a

55:40

time capsule. It had everything from three

55:43

generations of people. It had the original

55:45

furniture, it had original books, it had

55:47

original sketchbooks. So like they had drawn

55:49

things decades ago and the sketchbooks were

55:51

there. They had the same clothing. They

55:53

had the same Bible that even like

55:56

when she was born, her parents wrote

55:58

her time of birth in the

56:00

Bible and it was like just

56:02

there. And after she

56:05

died, a relative of the

56:07

family ended up buying out the

56:09

house and he wanted to

56:11

keep it totally as is, including all the

56:14

items where they sat when the family was

56:16

there. So like they're still sitting exactly where

56:18

they were. They tried

56:20

to open it as a museum. It was,

56:22

I guess, doing okay but

56:24

he was suffering. Basically when he died, the

56:27

museum was also like in a bad spot.

56:29

So in the 50s,

56:31

60s, the

56:34

museum was taken in by the DC

56:36

NYC, which is the Decorators Club of

56:38

New York City. And they are described

56:43

as the country's oldest

56:46

professional women's organization of

56:48

interior designers. They

56:50

currently have an active Instagram that I

56:52

crept through. They are still doing

56:54

the thing. I love that they're

56:57

like keeping up with the times too. If they

56:59

did a TikTok, I

57:01

would watch it. I might like it. I might

57:03

even like it. I might even send it to my friend

57:05

Em. I would send

57:07

it to you for sure. I'd be like, look at them, they're killing it. So

57:10

in the 60s, after they took over, this

57:13

building became the first Manhattan Landmark and

57:16

a year later it became a National

57:18

Historic Landmark. And they ended

57:20

up getting in touch with an architect from

57:22

NYU called Joseph Roberto who helped save the

57:24

building from collapse. And they were able to

57:26

preserve, Christine, they were able to preserve every

57:29

single inch of this house all the way down

57:31

to the furniture and art on the walls. And

57:34

so every single thing you

57:37

see in there, perfectly restored. And

57:39

it looks as it did

57:42

and everything is in good condition. You know

57:44

I love that. You know I love that.

57:46

And also like how cool to have a

57:48

haunted place where the ghosts are like, oh

57:50

looks exactly the same. I don't even need

57:52

to walk through a wall to get to

57:54

my old bedroom. Like it's all the same.

57:57

Yeah, Blueprint Theory who? You know? Yeah, exactly.

57:59

Oh my gosh. However, during

58:01

the renovations, this did

58:03

exactly what it always does, and it disturbed the

58:05

ghosts in the building. And ever since then, the

58:07

place has been haunted. At

58:10

least that's as far back as we know. I

58:12

imagine Gertrude, who watched probably her whole family

58:14

be born and die in this house. I'm

58:16

sure there were ghosts beforehand, but... I

58:18

think so. Maybe she was just reclining

58:21

until they started the construction. Maybe.

58:23

Yeah. Well,

58:25

so after construction, it started happening. People started

58:28

hearing footsteps in empty rooms. People

58:30

heard Gertrude's piano playing itself,

58:32

even though it could no longer work. They

58:37

would even hear it outside of the house. It was

58:39

so loud. So when they had closed up, people walking

58:41

on the side of the street would hear piano just

58:43

like blaring in there.

58:45

Heart-blaring soul. I fell

58:47

in love with you. Oh, hold

58:49

on. Let me start over. Roses,

58:51

roses, spring of the year. Okay.

58:56

I know we recorded three because we go about that. I

58:59

will never forget. I will never forget

59:01

that clip. And then Meghan put it

59:03

in the fucking TikTok and reel. Oh

59:05

my gosh. Yeah, folks, if you

59:07

have not seen that reel of us watching Zach

59:09

Bagan's singing his own weird-ass

59:12

love song and banging on a piano,

59:14

please go look at it. It's delightful.

59:17

Yeah. Your

59:19

soul is like a snow-glo butterfly. Rose, rose, rose,

59:22

rose. I mean, it's beautiful. So

59:26

people start hearing her piano playing

59:28

even from outside as words

59:31

spread about the spirits, more stories

59:33

started coming out, especially from that

59:35

one architect who helped the decorators

59:39

save the building. He was like, oh, this place is

59:41

haunted. There are some ghosts here. And

59:44

neighbors started claiming, here's one of

59:46

the wildest stories, is that

59:49

people who still live nearby

59:51

after Gertrude died, they still

59:53

would see her run out of the house.

59:56

Multiple neighbors saw this. They were all like, bitch,

59:59

is she alive? What how we're I thought she

1:00:01

was dead. How did we all just see why is she running

1:00:03

out of the house? To

1:00:05

shoe out the noisy kids to make them

1:00:07

go play somewhere else Wait,

1:00:10

but so that were there actual living kids there

1:00:13

or no There were kids that

1:00:15

were noisy I guess and she did what

1:00:17

everyone was thinking and ran out of the house and

1:00:19

like Shoot them away and was like go play somewhere

1:00:21

else. So you guys won't do it. I guess the

1:00:23

dead lady has to do it I'm

1:00:25

still needed. I guess yeah Wow. Okay.

1:00:27

I thought you meant like she used to do

1:00:30

that In life and so it was just repeating

1:00:32

like her shoeing her own kids out or something

1:00:34

that you're saying like there were other kids Outside

1:00:36

and she came out to be like hush like

1:00:38

the neighbors saw her shoe the children And

1:00:43

all of them I'm sure took a look

1:00:45

at each other being like we all saw

1:00:47

that yeah Like what whatever playing on this

1:00:49

block again, right? The

1:00:51

way I would yank my own kid away from that property

1:00:53

and be like I'm not kidding Listen to that

1:00:56

ghost don't go back there because I don't want you near that house

1:00:58

anymore I don't care about

1:01:00

drinking you do whatever you want, but do not go

1:01:02

by that back that by that fucking house Oh,

1:01:05

but you know that kid who

1:01:07

got shoot away by her Then like

1:01:09

went to like high school and was like I was one

1:01:11

of those kids. I saw her. I saw her

1:01:13

Oh, yeah, I was the 4th Avenue

1:01:15

7 or whatever I

1:01:20

was in the newsies apparently. Yeah and Yeah,

1:01:26

I know I you know I would totally brag about

1:01:28

that and I would have like a sick sick

1:01:30

crush like it would be So unhealthy the way

1:01:32

I would be in love with the person who

1:01:34

like had a real encounter the

1:01:36

whole town knew about With you meant

1:01:39

the old ghost lady. I was like we have to dive

1:01:41

into that later. I don't know this is the

1:01:43

time I thought you might you'd be I see I

1:01:45

feel like you and I would be those people who'd be like

1:01:47

yeah We were there But we were like down the street

1:01:49

getting ice cream from the ice cream truck and we

1:01:51

like weren't we were sort of supposed to be there

1:01:54

Yeah, you just hope that the people who were there

1:01:57

don't ever catch when that you're pretending you were there

1:02:02

I've done this for us, like we missed it. If

1:02:05

I ever heard someone say like, oh no, I was

1:02:07

one of the kids, I would have been like, I

1:02:09

have to date you, I just wanna date

1:02:11

you so badly. It wouldn't even matter anything else

1:02:13

about them. You'd be so thirsty to be there. Yeah, no,

1:02:15

I 100% know that the- Or

1:02:18

we would like go in as high

1:02:20

schoolers and do the thing that I did in high school

1:02:22

and would break into a band of houses. We would break

1:02:24

into the Treadwell all the time and I'd be like, you

1:02:26

know, one time I dated the guy who got yelled at

1:02:28

by her. I would find

1:02:30

a way to- It was that first kiss. Oh,

1:02:33

I would kiss, I think I would kiss him,

1:02:35

her or them just to have the story. Turns

1:02:38

out he was really in love with the old

1:02:40

lady ghosts. I

1:02:42

never stood a chance. Anyway,

1:02:46

everyone saw her yell at the kids and

1:02:50

on top of that, there is another ghost there

1:02:53

thought to be another one of the Treadwell daughters because remember

1:02:55

there was eight kids there. They

1:02:57

assume it's one of the Treadwell daughters, maybe gertures

1:02:59

herself and like a younger

1:03:01

version of her. But the

1:03:03

house has a ghost called

1:03:06

the Brown Lady because she's wearing

1:03:08

brown. I feel like we could've known her something

1:03:10

else. Today, yep. There's

1:03:12

also a woman in a black gown and

1:03:14

thank God I did not see any lady

1:03:16

say black lady. In brown, why would you

1:03:19

say brown lady? Like lady in brown, lady

1:03:21

in white, lady in black, lady in red.

1:03:23

I know. Brown

1:03:25

lady. Brown lady. And

1:03:27

thank God the one in the black gown is not called

1:03:29

the black lady. There is one in a black gown. And

1:03:33

there's one in a white gown. They

1:03:37

just got neutrals. Lots of representation here,

1:03:39

yeah. So

1:03:42

there's a lot of women in gowns pacing

1:03:44

the halls. Maybe

1:03:47

it's all the same person who's just trying on different outfits.

1:03:49

She still has all the same clothing from back then,

1:03:51

you know? Yeah, like leave her

1:03:53

alone. Well, the woman, I'm

1:03:56

just gonna say the woman in white, not the white

1:03:58

lady. to

1:04:00

change the narrative. The

1:04:02

woman in white they think is Elizabeth

1:04:05

and I think they are pretty confident.

1:04:07

They actually would say it is definitely

1:04:09

Elizabeth because... Is that the wife

1:04:11

or the daughter? So good catch

1:04:14

because the wife was Eliza

1:04:16

and they had an Elizabeth daughter. So

1:04:18

woman in white they think

1:04:23

is Eliza... sorry you

1:04:25

fucked me up... is Elizabeth because

1:04:27

they literally I

1:04:30

don't know if they still do it but for a

1:04:32

time the house literally had a binder full

1:04:34

of pictures of these people and like

1:04:37

charts and everything so if you saw

1:04:39

someone you could just go reference the

1:04:42

pictures and see who it was. And

1:04:44

so they this one guy who worked

1:04:46

there his name is Anthony he said he

1:04:48

was sitting on the stairs one time and felt someone coming

1:04:50

down the stairs and looked up and Elizabeth

1:04:52

was leaning over the stairs staring at

1:04:55

him and Anthony even said that he

1:04:57

felt their eyes connect like that they

1:04:59

both knew they saw each other. That

1:05:02

must be the wildest feeling because when I

1:05:04

saw that ghost at the Whaley house

1:05:08

I did not have any feeling

1:05:10

like he knew I or anyone was

1:05:13

there so it really is it

1:05:15

must be like a next-level jarring to like

1:05:17

realize I see you they see you. Well

1:05:20

it's one of the like yeah it guarantees

1:05:23

that they're at least for you it guarantees

1:05:25

for yourself that it's not a residual

1:05:28

thing that it intelligently recognizes. And so

1:05:30

I guess he looked at the pictures

1:05:32

later and he was

1:05:36

like that was absolutely Elizabeth. Another

1:05:39

story about Gertrude and why

1:05:41

she's still here it seems that

1:05:44

it always ends with like some sort of heartbreak

1:05:46

but she allegedly fell in love with a

1:05:49

doctor one source said medical student not a

1:05:51

doctor but his name was Lewis

1:05:53

Walton the problem was

1:05:55

that he was Catholic and they were Protestant and...

1:06:00

And Seabury Treadwell himself said, my daughter

1:06:02

is not gonna be with any Catholic,

1:06:04

absolutely not, you shut that shit down.

1:06:06

And so Gertrude ended up having to

1:06:10

live in the house for the rest of her life

1:06:12

because she didn't wanna be with anyone but Lewis and

1:06:15

she didn't get to, so she just stayed a spinster.

1:06:18

And interesting, at the time,

1:06:20

this was around the time period

1:06:22

where people started marrying for love

1:06:25

and not as a transactional thing.

1:06:28

And so a lot of

1:06:30

them were choosing love instead of

1:06:32

this being a business decision. And

1:06:36

three of the eight children decided that they were

1:06:38

not gonna get married at all. So

1:06:41

they might have really loved the double income, no kid

1:06:43

situation. They might have had the time over there.

1:06:45

Yeah, they were ahead of their time. Yeah.

1:06:49

Another fun fact I have is that just

1:06:51

to talk about the building one more time,

1:06:53

there's a movie in the 40s. Although wouldn't

1:06:55

that be single income if you're

1:06:57

not getting married? Oh, you're right, single income, no

1:06:59

kids. They'd be sinks, not dinks. That's

1:07:04

fine. Good for you. Good for them. In

1:07:08

the 1940s, there was a movie called The

1:07:10

Heiress, which was an adaptation of a play

1:07:12

and a book and all this. But the

1:07:15

movie won an Oscar for set design and

1:07:17

part of the set was recreations

1:07:19

from the merchant's house. No way! So

1:07:21

I don't know if they won any

1:07:24

actual awards for the real design, but

1:07:26

the movie version of the house got

1:07:29

an Oscar, so. It

1:07:31

says something. And in

1:07:34

the movie, the story centers around a woman who fell in

1:07:36

love with a man that her father forbade her

1:07:38

from marrying. So very similar to Gertrude.

1:07:41

There you go. Anyway,

1:07:43

so back to her, she ended up not

1:07:45

marrying anybody because she could not be with

1:07:47

Louis and people speculate that she's still there

1:07:49

drowning in her own sorrow. But

1:07:52

it could also be that maybe she just doesn't wanna leave

1:07:54

because this was literally the only place she ever

1:07:56

knew. Yeah. And...

1:08:00

Also Gertrude is not currently

1:08:02

the biggest fan of guests in her home, but that's

1:08:04

probably because she was like not much of a social

1:08:07

butterfly in life either. So she's probably like, why

1:08:09

are all these fucking people in my house? And

1:08:12

then the second she goes out, they're like,

1:08:14

oh, you're so ugly. Like, what good happens

1:08:16

outside? Nothing. Oh, my

1:08:18

God. I – yeah. Poor

1:08:21

girl. Poor girl. Many

1:08:23

people now report seeing

1:08:26

Gertrude herself as a full-body apparition. People

1:08:28

have even said that they have been

1:08:30

denied entry at the door. So I

1:08:32

love that she's got boundaries. Wait.

1:08:35

She blocks you from coming in.

1:08:37

That's great. She's like – yeah.

1:08:39

One group said that a reenactor

1:08:41

in period clothing came

1:08:45

up to them at the front of the museum

1:08:47

and said, oh, the museum's closed for the day,

1:08:49

which it was not, and also nobody dressed like

1:08:52

that that was employed there. Dude. Okay. But the

1:08:54

fact that she lied, like she knows it's a

1:08:56

museum and she says that the museum is closed

1:08:58

today is like, wait, what? So she's like in

1:09:00

on it? Like she has her own little plan?

1:09:04

Yeah. It's wild that the – that's crazy. That the ghosts

1:09:06

know the – like the updates

1:09:08

of the house. Oh,

1:09:11

my God. That's so trippy because

1:09:13

in my mind, I'm like the ghosts never

1:09:15

know – or I guess maybe residually –

1:09:17

they never know, and that's why the blueprint

1:09:19

theory is so important because they need to

1:09:21

know how to get around. They can't see

1:09:23

the new doorways, right? They're just using their

1:09:25

own memory of it. But at

1:09:28

the merchant house, the one place where

1:09:31

they – like they never touched anything, and so we don't

1:09:33

have to worry about the blueprint theory – It's

1:09:36

the one time the ghosts would actively

1:09:38

not acknowledge the blueprint theory and be like, oh, well,

1:09:40

it's a museum now. I know how to walk around

1:09:42

this new place. It's like this is the one place

1:09:44

where they should have been able

1:09:46

to roll with the new

1:09:49

updates and they don't actually ask for it.

1:09:51

Yeah, and ignore – yeah. So do you

1:09:53

know if she actually said the museum is

1:09:55

closed, quote-unquote, or did she say like get

1:09:57

out? And they were like, oh. Well,

1:10:00

I mean, they they she said the place

1:10:02

is closed today. I don't know if she used

1:10:04

the word museum, but she did say like hours

1:10:06

of operation are closed. So

1:10:08

maybe she was like thinking they were there for

1:10:10

a new hat or something or

1:10:12

whatever. Whatever used to have been there. I

1:10:14

don't know. Maybe she's like, we're closed today.

1:10:16

And also, why are you wearing those weird

1:10:19

clothes? Well, weird

1:10:21

futuristic clothes. I know. You

1:10:23

would think she would be like, oh, maybe

1:10:26

I compared to your current

1:10:28

stuff, I guess I do look ugly compared

1:10:30

to like if someone who wears your clothes saw

1:10:32

me, obviously, like someone in 100 years is going

1:10:34

to see my clothes and be like, that's the

1:10:36

fuggliest person I've ever seen in my life. So

1:10:39

maybe so 100 years ago, if we

1:10:41

look at people from the 20s,

1:10:43

we're all like, oh, my God, flappers, I want

1:10:45

to look like them. So you might be an icon.

1:10:49

It would have to be like divisible

1:10:51

by 30 or something, because isn't it like

1:10:53

every 30 years it repeats? Yeah. And

1:10:55

that's the thing. 100 years from now, people

1:10:58

think it's all vintage, but we have to

1:11:00

go like a middle ground where it's getting

1:11:02

made fun of. Yeah. Well,

1:11:06

I do think that she knows it's a museum. And we'll

1:11:08

get to that in a second with another story. Oh,

1:11:10

okay. I think she knows that it's a museum.

1:11:13

That is so crazy. Because

1:11:16

one time after that,

1:11:19

another group of people were stopped by

1:11:21

a man in period clothing. And

1:11:24

he said, you cannot

1:11:26

continue on the tour, you have to head back to

1:11:29

the front. Oh,

1:11:32

that sounds a little... So at least

1:11:34

somebody knows, so she probably does too.

1:11:36

Wow. Yeah. Do we think it was

1:11:38

Ebenezer or whatever his name is? Yes.

1:11:41

They... Seabury Kingsworth. They later

1:11:43

walked past a portrait of

1:11:45

Seabury Treadwill and realized it was him. And...

1:11:48

Oh, my God. So he and his daughter are like, yep, we

1:11:51

work here. Yeah. They're like, we

1:11:53

need a new tactic. We need to fake like we're

1:11:55

one of these futuristic people. I

1:11:57

like to think they high five when they get more people out of

1:11:59

the house. they can just have it to themselves. They're

1:12:02

like, oh, got another one. Seabury,

1:12:05

like I said, he is said to

1:12:07

be kind of nasty to other people. I mean, he was

1:12:10

already very close-minded to his daughter finding love.

1:12:12

He named the merchant's

1:12:14

house the merchant's house instead of

1:12:16

the Treadwell, Shedwell or something. So

1:12:18

most, it's the most egregious mistake

1:12:20

of them all. Yeah, he clearly does

1:12:23

not have an open mind or open heart.

1:12:25

So he's said to be quite nasty to people.

1:12:28

And people have sensed a very

1:12:31

oppressive and intimidating energy, especially young

1:12:33

women. And many people

1:12:36

have been like overcome with

1:12:38

panic attacks, distress, they've

1:12:40

fainted in the house. People

1:12:42

have seen mists and smelled tobacco and that's kind

1:12:45

of assumed to be him. Also

1:12:47

in Seabury's room, a medium one

1:12:50

time on an investigation, a medium

1:12:53

sense that something wanted the lights off. And

1:12:56

so when she said out loud, does

1:12:58

someone want the lights off? The

1:13:00

entire group saw the

1:13:03

closet door shake because something

1:13:05

huge banged against the door from

1:13:07

the inside. And

1:13:11

there's EVP evidence of it. And it really sounds

1:13:13

like someone threw a shoe at the door. So

1:13:16

it's almost like, do we know now? Do

1:13:18

they mean yes or no? Like that's not very clear. It's just

1:13:21

an outburst. Like do they want the lights off or not? It

1:13:23

was just an outburst. We

1:13:25

need you to use your words. Listen. Yeah,

1:13:28

use your big girl words. Use

1:13:30

your talking skills. Yeah,

1:13:35

but it was in his room. It was

1:13:37

very aggressive whether or not we know what the

1:13:39

answer was. And even

1:13:43

weirder, the employee, Anthony, who also

1:13:45

saw Elizabeth on the stairs, he

1:13:48

was at this investigation. And when he saw

1:13:50

the door shake, he wanted to tell his

1:13:52

sister right away. So he pulled his phone

1:13:54

out in the room and he watched his

1:13:56

battery, his full battery go. You

1:14:00

poop in the phone guy. He

1:14:02

watched the battery drain instantly.

1:14:05

I feel like we're learning a lot about

1:14:07

ghosts in this particular,

1:14:09

from this family. They're

1:14:12

teaching us new things. And they

1:14:14

know way too damn much about our equipment

1:14:16

and stuff like that. They are next level.

1:14:18

I wonder if they've, I don't

1:14:20

know how they've figured this all out, but they must

1:14:23

have studied up because they're like, oh, I know. He's

1:14:25

like, he pulled a phone out, all right, I'll do

1:14:27

it. What do they do? They put their hand through

1:14:29

it and it just depletes, I don't know. One

1:14:32

of my favorite stories from when I was ghost hunting was

1:14:34

that I had to teach a ghost how a phone worked.

1:14:36

And so in

1:14:39

my mind, I'm like, had someone else over- You can

1:14:41

barely teach your grandparent how a phone works. That's too

1:14:43

much of a task. That's too much work. But

1:14:45

how much did they know? Who taught them? Or

1:14:48

how come they knew and the ghosts I taught

1:14:50

didn't know? Yeah, exactly. Maybe somebody

1:14:52

taught them like you did. Yeah,

1:14:54

or maybe they're just, people are coming in all the

1:14:57

times they see phones more often and they're like, I,

1:14:59

or maybe they weren't even trying to fuck with the

1:15:02

phone. Maybe just by being near the phone, they sucked

1:15:04

out the energy. The energy, yeah.

1:15:06

Maybe they like realize if they touch

1:15:08

that weird thing that people hold, it'll

1:15:10

like stop working. I don't know, maybe

1:15:12

there's some like Ghost Logic. I

1:15:15

feel like it really could- Ghost Logic,

1:15:17

a new brand by Emminkrissy. Ghost

1:15:19

Logic sounds like a really cool

1:15:21

punk clothing store. That's

1:15:23

what I'm saying, T-M-T-M-T-M-T, yeah.

1:15:26

T-motherfucking-M. I

1:15:28

feel like for all we know, they were just trying

1:15:30

to like look over his shoulder and see what

1:15:32

was going on and accidentally sucked the energy away.

1:15:34

But Anthony, the employee saw it as, oh, you

1:15:36

don't get to call anybody. You can't cry for

1:15:38

help. And they're like, no, it's not what I meant. Yeah, sorry. Anyway,

1:15:43

also in- You'll never speak to your lover

1:15:45

again. Just like my daughter could never speak

1:15:48

to her lover again. You

1:15:50

should be an audio book voiceover

1:15:52

artist. Oh, that's so funny you

1:15:54

mentioned that because we did write a book

1:15:56

and I knew I would find a way in the middle

1:15:58

of one of our stories too. insert that for the people

1:16:01

who sneaky sneaky sneaky skip the intro and by

1:16:03

the way you skipped how I almost killed us

1:16:05

all in a snowbank accident so you know first

1:16:07

of all whose loss is it really second of

1:16:09

all we did write a book and now that

1:16:11

I'm yelling at you you're probably not gonna pre-order

1:16:13

it but please do you couldn't find

1:16:15

it on the internet so anyway it's called

1:16:17

a haunted road Atlas next stop and thank

1:16:19

you so much for that unintended segue that

1:16:21

you gave me that was maybe it wasn't

1:16:23

intentional plugging you so no but yeah pre-orders

1:16:25

are very important and even more that the

1:16:27

link is in our show notes so thank

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you so much wow so smooth anyway back

1:16:32

to that back to this anyway

1:16:34

here's a picture in Seabury Treadwell's

1:16:36

house this is into

1:16:38

a mirror when no one was

1:16:40

standing there okay is it via

1:16:42

text it is sending currently

1:16:46

in a mirror you said sorry oh my

1:16:48

what wait wait hold on so so

1:16:51

the person is taking that's so

1:16:53

the the mirror was empty they took a picture at an

1:16:55

angle to see if they'd catch anything and then I know

1:16:58

it's kind of hard but the longer you

1:17:00

look at it the more you see a

1:17:02

very specific nose face eyes uh-huh it

1:17:05

is a necklace a short like you see like

1:17:07

patterns on the shoulder it

1:17:09

looks like a an old-timey monk look

1:17:11

at his hair yeah like what's and I'm

1:17:13

with the robe and the tassels it looks

1:17:15

to me like a monk and

1:17:18

so that picture was taken yikes I hate

1:17:21

that my god that is

1:17:23

so effing creepy here's

1:17:26

the worst part another

1:17:28

thing about Seabury Treadwell I'm just trying to do all

1:17:30

the Seabury stuff at the same time so we don't

1:17:32

have to continue with him anymore after this but

1:17:36

I'm gonna send you a link right

1:17:38

now okay you're gonna

1:17:40

keep it open because throughout the rest of my

1:17:42

notes there are multiple time codes I want you to

1:17:45

look at but for now I want you to go to

1:17:49

marker 3440 and

1:17:51

I'm gonna explain to you what

1:17:54

happened okay so for

1:17:56

those who are not Christine this is

1:17:58

a very big shout out to

1:18:01

haunt TV's world's scariest hauntings. They

1:18:03

did an episode on the merchant's

1:18:05

house and they talked specifically with

1:18:07

someone who investigates there quite a lot and

1:18:11

the clip I'm about to see. That's cool. Isn't

1:18:13

that funny? Is that a YouTube channel or

1:18:15

is that like... I think

1:18:18

haunt TV is like a network and one

1:18:20

of their shows is world's scariest hauntings.

1:18:23

Wow okay okay and

1:18:25

so what you're going to hear because the craziest

1:18:28

thing about this house and one of the reasons

1:18:30

I think people call it the Holy Grail is

1:18:33

because their EVPs are

1:18:35

out of control clear. Like it's...

1:18:38

oh it sounds like somebody is literally there. You

1:18:40

don't have to guess. It's not a creepy whisper.

1:18:43

It's not through a spirit box where you hear...

1:18:45

so yeah

1:18:47

you're you're about to hear an EVP and

1:18:50

basically they're in Mr. Treadwell's room and they're talking

1:18:52

about the piano downstairs that's broken and shouldn't be

1:18:54

playing anymore and they asked Mr.

1:18:56

Treadwell can you

1:18:58

play the piano downstairs or do you know how to play

1:19:00

the piano downstairs? And okay and

1:19:02

we're at 3430 right? 3440. Oh I'm sorry

1:19:09

okay 3440 should I hit play? Mm-hmm.

1:19:12

We get a male voice saying I

1:19:14

strike the keys and succession. What?

1:19:25

Wait okay I need to listen one more time.

1:19:35

Okay I'm sorry I misunderstood I thought this

1:19:37

guy like the host was saying oh like

1:19:40

I thought he was saying it first and then copying

1:19:43

him but he's describing what you're about to

1:19:46

hear. He's describing sorry I think I did a

1:19:48

few seconds too early but um... God it's really

1:19:51

it's really clear. I thought

1:19:54

it was just repeating... hold on I'm gonna

1:19:56

hear it one more time. Okay,

1:20:04

he's such a dick. He's like, yeah, I know

1:20:06

how to play. I pressed

1:20:09

down a key. Yeah, he says I

1:20:11

strike the key. Oh, sorry. I guess we should tell people what

1:20:13

he said. So Mr.

1:20:15

Treadwell, they ask, you know, Mr. Treadwell, do you know

1:20:17

how to play the piano downstairs? And then they get

1:20:20

an EVP that says, I strike the keys in succession.

1:20:22

I don't personally hear in succession, but I do hear

1:20:24

I strike the keys, and I hear it so fucking

1:20:26

clear. Oh, wait. What do you hear?

1:20:29

I hear I strike the keys and then like a

1:20:31

mumbling that I didn't really know. Do you hear in

1:20:33

succession? Hold on. I

1:20:40

do hear in succession. Oh, okay.

1:20:42

Cool. I just hear I strike

1:20:44

the keys so loudly. I think maybe

1:20:47

also I was primed. Sure.

1:20:51

But isn't that like the fucking craziest? Like it's so

1:20:53

clear and weird. I

1:20:55

mean, it's like you can hear the timbre of his voice.

1:20:57

Like it's not just like, like some

1:21:00

creepy sound that you have to try. It's like,

1:21:02

oh, that's an old man talking. Like it's not.

1:21:04

It's clearly not like the young person

1:21:07

who is speaking. It's

1:21:09

like a completely new voice. And so

1:21:12

I thought at first because the ghost

1:21:14

hunter guy or whoever that is says,

1:21:18

oh, we hear the ghost say I strike

1:21:20

the keys in succession. But

1:21:23

like when I was first listening to it, I thought the ghost was then

1:21:25

like mimicking him talking. Like that's

1:21:27

how clear it was. I thought like somehow

1:21:29

that he had like mimicked that exact sentence,

1:21:31

but no, the ghost said at first, oh,

1:21:33

that is unacceptable. It's

1:21:36

so weirdly clear. And

1:21:38

so clear. So anyway,

1:21:40

that's Mr. Seabury, Mr. Treadwell. And

1:21:43

keep that link open because in a little bit there's

1:21:45

going to be another thing. This is so fun.

1:21:48

I love this like interactive part. Well,

1:21:51

there are other spirits in the house

1:21:53

and some of them are former servants, especially

1:21:55

in the kitchen. Investigators

1:21:58

have sucks to say. to

1:22:00

work for life, yeah,

1:22:03

for eternity. An

1:22:05

investigator asked the spirits their purpose in the

1:22:07

house and got an EVP very clearly of

1:22:09

someone saying servants. And then

1:22:11

a medium sense that women were harassed

1:22:13

here, it does not strike me as

1:22:16

surprised at all. And

1:22:19

when they asked if the man who harassed them

1:22:21

should be forgiven, the EVP,

1:22:23

they got an EVP that

1:22:25

said soul should be saved. I was

1:22:27

really hoping the EVP would say absolutely

1:22:29

not. You've, you know, rotten

1:22:32

hell. Ignore my

1:22:34

weird dad, he's such a creep

1:22:36

anyway. So

1:22:39

also in the kitchen, there's still the original

1:22:42

bells that the family would use to

1:22:45

summon the staff and people still hear

1:22:48

the bells ring. Also one time they

1:22:51

left a recorder in the kitchen

1:22:53

when it was empty, when like the room was

1:22:55

empty. And you hear this

1:22:57

weird shrill scream EVP. It

1:23:00

also kind of sounded like a sink was

1:23:02

running, which is weird. So maybe they just

1:23:04

got the faucet turning on. Either way, I

1:23:06

didn't like it. Also

1:23:09

many mediums here have gotten names and dates

1:23:11

right away without any context about the house

1:23:13

and they often get the name Anne McNulty

1:23:16

who was one of the servants. Oh,

1:23:20

interesting. She

1:23:22

also will tell them about items throughout the

1:23:24

house that no longer exists there, but older

1:23:26

staff can confirm that it was once there.

1:23:30

The mediums see it or you said? Mediums

1:23:33

are speaking on Anne's

1:23:36

behalf who says, oh,

1:23:38

and here, oh, I

1:23:40

understand. So the mediums

1:23:42

hearing Anne describe. What?

1:23:45

That's crazy. Also Anne

1:23:48

is said to sing a lot to the mediums

1:23:50

and so investigators are starting to think that she

1:23:52

was one of the children's nannies and

1:23:54

nearby people hear the voice of

1:23:57

children upstairs. Another Treadwell

1:24:00

Childs in the house is

1:24:02

Samuel, though a lot of people say

1:24:04

haunts the building with Gertrude and Seabury.

1:24:07

But other sources said that it

1:24:09

wasn't Samuel, it was Horace, so I'm just going

1:24:11

to say both of them haunt the place. And

1:24:15

they are somewhat pleasant. Apparently if you

1:24:17

run into them, they are fine. They

1:24:20

are not mean. One

1:24:22

of them, you smell mothballs around him.

1:24:26

Another one who we think is Horace, people

1:24:30

have seen his full body leaning against a

1:24:32

fireplace mantle dressed in all black and he

1:24:35

looked like he was sad like he was

1:24:37

mourning. And keep in mind this was a

1:24:39

time when the Parlors were used to host

1:24:41

funerals. Oh my gosh.

1:24:45

And he was one of ten in his

1:24:47

family, including the parents who many

1:24:49

of them died there. So maybe they're

1:24:51

replaying part of one of

1:24:53

the funerals in the house. What the

1:24:55

fu- it's so weird to see like

1:24:58

that like glimpses from different scenes like

1:25:00

kind of pop through. Yeah

1:25:02

it's just crazy. It's just so trippy.

1:25:06

If you died today and

1:25:08

then people saw your full body operation replaying

1:25:10

something, what would be the moment you think they

1:25:12

would catch you replaying? Probably

1:25:17

like dropping a bunch of

1:25:19

boxes or something. Like it would like sound

1:25:21

really jarring. But in reality I just

1:25:23

told myself I could carry like sixteen boxes upstairs

1:25:25

and then they all went tumbling down the stairs

1:25:27

and then I had to go down one by

1:25:29

one for each of them. Like

1:25:31

I think it would be something so stupid but it would

1:25:34

seem dramatic. They'd be like oh my god this is

1:25:36

crashing and something went flying down the

1:25:38

stairs and it's like no just my laundry.

1:25:40

I just thought I could carry everything upstairs.

1:25:43

What about you Em? I don't know I

1:25:45

feel like mine would be like the fridge door opening and

1:25:47

closing non-stop or- I

1:25:50

mean like also same yeah relatable. So

1:25:52

I feel like that's

1:25:54

a good one. I could

1:25:57

see myself in that same scenario. one

1:26:00

woman who actually did see

1:26:02

Samuel or Horace standing there

1:26:05

in front of her thought that they

1:26:08

were a real live person and

1:26:10

had a whole conversation with him thinking he was

1:26:12

alive and only when her boyfriend walked in later

1:26:14

she turned back and all of a sudden that

1:26:16

guy was totally missing and they realized that he

1:26:18

was one of the treadwells. Okay

1:26:21

so these this family this

1:26:24

TMTM again because this seems like a good

1:26:26

TV show like I know they already have

1:26:28

a show called Ghosts and stuff but just

1:26:30

this family like trying to

1:26:32

stop people from having tours in their

1:26:34

house like it's just it's really good.

1:26:36

I like for there to be a

1:26:38

lot of comedy. EVP is not included

1:26:40

for there to already be three instances where

1:26:43

there's four instances where people have

1:26:45

seen a live living

1:26:47

seemingly living person interacting with them

1:26:49

where Gertrude scaring away the kids

1:26:51

actively sees them actively

1:26:53

sees them actively interacts with current living people

1:26:56

Gertrude who scaring away the kids. Gertrude,

1:27:00

why? Wasn't there a lady

1:27:02

who looked right at the guy on the stairs and

1:27:04

they saw each other? I mean that's less

1:27:06

interactive but still he said like... Yeah

1:27:09

their eyes connected and then Gertrude

1:27:11

talking to a tour, Samuel or Horace

1:27:13

talking to a tour them having a conversation

1:27:15

with him now I mean these are like

1:27:20

I mean very intelligent ghosts and I wonder if the

1:27:22

whole family like what does that mean does the whole

1:27:24

family get to be intelligent if most

1:27:26

of them live here or... Can

1:27:29

they like each Horace if he didn't catch on right away?

1:27:31

Right like is he just kind of like pacing the halls

1:27:33

and everyone else is like Horace get over here you don't

1:27:35

have to do that anymore. Get away from the funeral

1:27:37

we can leave that now you don't need to be

1:27:39

sad in the parlor. I don't know

1:27:42

I just wonder because like what if maybe it's

1:27:44

because the house is situated a certain way or

1:27:46

like built

1:27:48

out of a certain material maybe it like

1:27:50

just is better at channeling? I don't know.

1:27:52

Maybe. It could also be like stone tape

1:27:54

theory of like if enough death

1:27:57

happened in the space like the whole house absorbed it

1:27:59

so maybe it... kind of shoots back all the same type

1:28:01

of energy. But wouldn't that

1:28:03

happen in like everywhere there were like mass

1:28:05

casualties and stuff? Yeah, yeah. I

1:28:09

don't know. Maybe they just spent so many

1:28:11

decades there. Yeah. I

1:28:13

don't know, I don't know. That could be a lot of paranormal

1:28:17

logic. A new brand

1:28:19

by Emma Christine. Logic is obviously

1:28:21

with a K and the G is maybe

1:28:23

a J. Oh wait, it was ghost logic.

1:28:26

Ghost logic. I said it wrong. I think. That's

1:28:29

okay. Exactly, we haven't signed any papers yet. I'm

1:28:32

going to speak for yourself. Hold

1:28:35

that post-it note with my signature. Sorry. I

1:28:38

think it was ghost logic because I remember already

1:28:41

designing the logo in my head. You

1:28:43

know, I'm going to team paranormal, TMTM

1:28:45

paranormal logic just in case. Excellent.

1:28:48

I can't wait to see. And then I'm going to

1:28:50

immediately hop on to your business plan. Okay.

1:28:55

Other people have seen Mists

1:28:58

and Shadows. There's

1:29:00

even pictures, several, several pictures of

1:29:02

figures showing up. A lot of

1:29:04

them are humanoid bodies or shadows

1:29:08

or people literally standing there on their own in the hall

1:29:11

or people standing next to visitors. Some

1:29:15

photos even have a solid white,

1:29:19

like human height glob. Like

1:29:22

it's almost like the ink is missing from the photo. Oh.

1:29:25

And it's all- It's like a shadow person, the

1:29:28

negative of a shadow person. It's almost like

1:29:30

it did not want to be seen. And

1:29:32

so it said like, when these photos develop,

1:29:34

I'm just removing myself from the narrative totally.

1:29:36

And like the ink could not print it

1:29:38

out. The pigment just didn't. Ew. And

1:29:42

then that figure is always standing next

1:29:44

to the fireplace. So maybe it's Horace.

1:29:49

Oh, he's just sad. People

1:29:52

also say that the

1:29:55

beds upstairs will unmake themselves. The chandeliers

1:29:57

will swing. People hear creaky furniture. Even

1:30:00

though it's been restored, the doors will open and

1:30:03

close by themselves. There's banging on

1:30:05

the walls throughout the house. People

1:30:07

feel cold spots. Something touches

1:30:09

them often, whether that's on your

1:30:11

arm or poking you or patting

1:30:13

you. People feel like they're getting touched all the time.

1:30:16

Again, they hear footsteps, they hear conversations in

1:30:18

empty rooms, and this is where I might

1:30:20

actually be replayed for the rest of eternity.

1:30:23

People hear snoring on the couch. No,

1:30:26

interesting. People

1:30:29

also see teacups and random items moved

1:30:31

around the house, but teacups specifically, as

1:30:33

if someone is carrying it around drinking

1:30:35

tea and then just leaves it somewhere.

1:30:39

That would be me also. Just

1:30:42

half empty coffee cups. My

1:30:45

cups, I would have cups in every... My

1:30:47

trash piles would just scatter all the time.

1:30:49

Yeah. It would be wild if... Eventually, if

1:30:51

there's so many cups in a room, you

1:30:53

don't notice if one is added or taken

1:30:55

away. They just leave a pile of

1:30:57

cups for you and you can think

1:31:00

you're tricking them, but they're actually not that scared because

1:31:02

it just looks like a random pile of cups after...

1:31:04

They're like, wow, we're really bad at dishes. Yeah.

1:31:08

It's true. Also, I'm there.

1:31:12

At a Christmas party in the building, employees did

1:31:14

a raffle and one of the guests was a

1:31:16

crystal dish. One of the

1:31:19

employees, I guess, who wanted it had to come

1:31:21

back into the office the next day to grab

1:31:23

it, but it just sat on the

1:31:25

middle of a big desk until she could pick it

1:31:28

up. When they walked in the next day, it was

1:31:30

shattered on the floor and there's

1:31:32

no way it should have because it was

1:31:34

sitting very sturdy on a very wide table.

1:31:37

The only way it would have shattered is if it... Oh, so they left it there alone. Mm-hmm.

1:31:40

The only way it would have shattered is if it

1:31:42

was... Ooh. That's not

1:31:44

good. Also,

1:31:48

during one fundraising concert in the house,

1:31:51

each of the musicians, one of them being

1:31:53

that damn employee, Anthony, They

1:31:57

were doing a little concert in one

1:32:00

of the rooms. the and all of

1:32:02

the musician said that they felt something

1:32:04

really off of felt something like spiritually

1:32:07

was weird. It's like they're being stared

1:32:09

at and right before they started playing

1:32:11

one of them felt a blast of

1:32:13

heat behind her, another was severely poked

1:32:16

in the ribs, another one for a

1:32:18

sec and after the show saber all

1:32:20

comparing notes about like what happened to

1:32:22

them and. People. Who were

1:32:25

watching the show at audience members who were

1:32:27

mingling with them now overheard them comparing these

1:32:29

experiences and said oh I wonder if it

1:32:32

had anything to do with that like older

1:32:34

woman who walked right past all of you.

1:32:36

Pray before we start playing on some fuck

1:32:38

up. And. Multiple people. They

1:32:41

were like. Shall we? Thought it was

1:32:43

weird that you just started playing and

1:32:45

then acknowledge her walking right through like

1:32:47

your your scene but she walked across

1:32:49

all and was at. My. That down

1:32:51

in the audience and then. Watch the

1:32:53

entire concert perform so they just as

1:32:55

she was a random performer or a

1:32:58

random audience member. My. God.

1:33:02

They. Were present like less as an old lady. What

1:33:04

she saw. I was like what

1:33:06

old lady. So they assume that's Gertrude,

1:33:08

but also like, why is she poking some in the

1:33:10

ribs Or. before their show that so

1:33:12

cruel was get everybody. Out and then

1:33:14

this Anthony shows up and he's like I'm

1:33:17

I'm leading towards that ice and then all

1:33:19

the senses like I'm free and then suddenly

1:33:21

he comes back with a fuckin violin and

1:33:23

she's like. Who. Have felt like

1:33:25

I got video though the tours for days and nights.

1:33:27

my time and then he says i'll be like now

1:33:29

I play the guitar like I don't blame her for

1:33:32

being like I have been trying to get rid of

1:33:34

the sky and now he's playing music in my. House

1:33:36

and I'm trying to go to bed. I. Do

1:33:38

appreciate that Shelley's gave up enough to sit down

1:33:40

and watch the concert. But so like. how

1:33:43

while that know but he doesn't i wonder

1:33:45

like okay they didn't see her walk through

1:33:47

the the concerts but said they see an

1:33:49

old lady sitting and watching like that they

1:33:51

only see half a world severely as she

1:33:54

just walked past and then like kind of

1:33:56

vanished and nobody can i'm knew where know

1:33:58

like in owning a bunch people said that

1:34:00

they watched her walk across to a seat,

1:34:02

sit down and then play. Oh, she's fat!

1:34:05

They saw her sit. Oh, I

1:34:07

thought this was like a whole mingling the whole time

1:34:09

the music is playing. I didn't realize it was like

1:34:11

a seated thing. No, it was a

1:34:13

concert. That's even, that's so much worse.

1:34:15

So much worse. Yeah. So they all, they

1:34:17

all watched her

1:34:19

just step right in and then sit down almost

1:34:21

as if she was late for the concert. Um,

1:34:25

you know, God, I

1:34:27

mean, she is the reason

1:34:29

the concert is late. And

1:34:32

honestly, she should be like so grateful because they're trying

1:34:34

to raise funds to keep the house so she can

1:34:37

keep fucking with them. They keep it exactly the

1:34:39

same, right? Like, yeah, one of the nicer

1:34:41

spirits in the house is Eliza, the

1:34:45

mom. Her room is most

1:34:49

active, I guess.

1:34:51

There's a lot of EVPs here. One

1:34:54

investigator looked in the mirror and actually

1:34:57

asked Eliza, this is where I'm going to have you pull

1:35:00

up that link again, and go to

1:35:02

2756. So in

1:35:05

Eliza's room, there was investigators

1:35:08

and they walked past her mirror. And

1:35:11

one of them who she

1:35:13

decided she was going to look in the mirror

1:35:15

and talk to Eliza there. One of the investigators

1:35:17

said, Eliza, do you think someone's still looking into

1:35:19

the mirror? Do you think she's pretty? And, uh,

1:35:24

and this is the clip of

1:35:27

her response to that. Oh,

1:35:44

that's incredible.

1:35:47

So like, I don't know what I was

1:35:50

expecting, but that was better. So

1:35:52

in a socially passive

1:35:55

aggressive way, he said,

1:35:58

so he says, is she Do

1:36:00

you think she's pretty to the ghost? And

1:36:02

she fucking responds. Sorry,

1:36:05

go ahead. She goes, pleasant

1:36:07

enough. Literally

1:36:09

pleasant enough. And it like, you can hear

1:36:11

the intonation of like, pleasant

1:36:14

enough, like all my questions, like you

1:36:16

can hear her saying it. You could hear the

1:36:18

eye roll as she's saying it. Like the sht-

1:36:20

And you can hear the old

1:36:23

timey voice. Like it sounds like

1:36:26

an old timey voice from what you'd hear

1:36:28

like on an old phonograph or something. Like

1:36:30

it's amazing. Which is why I'm confused why

1:36:32

in my notes I wrote that she's one

1:36:34

of the nicer spirits. I'm like, maybe if

1:36:37

she was nice to not fully

1:36:39

be incredibly rude, I guess.

1:36:43

Maybe like compared to her. Sure,

1:36:46

sure. Yeah,

1:36:49

apparently, I mean, I love

1:36:51

that they were still so like snarky back then.

1:36:53

Like, I always think, in

1:36:56

my mind, they were just so posh. So like

1:36:58

they would only, even if it meant lying to

1:37:00

your face, would have been like, yes, very beautiful.

1:37:02

Yes. But she was like, I

1:37:05

guess. I would have known by the way. I would have known all those,

1:37:08

well, yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say, can we

1:37:10

talk about that poor investigator who's probably lost sleep

1:37:12

for the rest of her life? That like- First

1:37:14

of all. People who aren't even in the room

1:37:16

think you're not that great at looking at it.

1:37:18

I need you to listen to yourself right now

1:37:21

because you come to my house and stand in

1:37:23

my basement and go, hey, ghost,

1:37:25

Harry, do you like Christine's baby

1:37:27

or not? And I'm like, why

1:37:29

would you even ask the question

1:37:31

to open that door of, hmm,

1:37:34

great question, I've never thought about it, but

1:37:36

I hate that baby. Like, why

1:37:38

would you even open the door? And then you waltz

1:37:40

on out. Stir up your drama

1:37:43

and waltz on out. So don't even pretend like

1:37:45

you would be so taken aback by this. I

1:37:48

do remember asking if the ghost liked you.

1:37:52

And they said, yes. I don't know, did I say

1:37:54

anything about your baby? You

1:37:56

sure did. It was the next question. Actually, I do

1:37:58

have it on video. So if we'd like- I should

1:38:01

pull that up. That could be either a Patreon or

1:38:03

an Instagram or something. I should say that on Patreon.

1:38:05

Oh, let's do it on Patreon because we have

1:38:08

a whole video that we've never done anything with.

1:38:10

I don't think. Eva, correct me if I'm

1:38:12

wrong. A whole video of

1:38:14

us doing metal detecting

1:38:16

slash dowsing rods in the basement. It

1:38:18

was a very weird time. It

1:38:21

was a good time for

1:38:23

you. Yeah, for me. They said

1:38:25

they liked me. Yeah, so it's fine. But yeah,

1:38:27

I feel like if they had words

1:38:30

instead of the dowsing rod, they probably would have been like,

1:38:32

you know, you're right. That's

1:38:34

fine. I would have said that's totally fine. Like

1:38:36

I'll take it. I don't need any pleasant enough.

1:38:38

That's fine. I don't need some evil

1:38:41

old lady. And you're right.

1:38:43

Maybe she is considered the nicer ones because

1:38:46

if they asked Seabury Treadwell what he thought

1:38:48

of her, he would probably been like, yuck.

1:38:50

You know, like said something for the mean. Yeah,

1:38:53

yeah. Or something really creepy. You know,

1:38:55

well, I have. Oh,

1:38:59

tell me. Oh, I just say it could be like something

1:39:01

really creepy, like that. He's really into the way she looks.

1:39:03

You know, it could be bad. It could be bad either

1:39:05

way. Yuck. OK, yeah, you're right. You're

1:39:07

right. OK, I have another. This is

1:39:10

the last clip that I want you to go to, but

1:39:12

it's thirty nine forty five. OK. This

1:39:15

is the funnest thing. I love doing this.

1:39:18

Thirty nine forty five. You're like curating a

1:39:20

perfect little montage

1:39:22

for me. Thirty eight

1:39:24

twenty five. Thirty nine forty five.

1:39:27

What is thirty nine forty five? What is wrong with

1:39:29

me? I'm like losing my mind. Thirty nine forty five.

1:39:31

OK, I'm there. So this is

1:39:33

when they are talking to their they're doing

1:39:35

an investigation in the house and they're in

1:39:37

an area that a lot of children are

1:39:40

seen. And the

1:39:42

investigator is talking

1:39:45

to the spirits of like,

1:39:47

oh, we have new people in tonight.

1:39:49

Like, don't be afraid, though. That's

1:39:51

what he says. And then we got this response. OK.

1:39:56

That's a question, sir. I am

1:39:58

not afraid. For

1:40:02

fucking get about it. That's

1:40:05

the world. Why did they even put music

1:40:07

under it? Like, don't even put music. It's

1:40:10

horrifying. I mean, is

1:40:13

that not so- I mean, talk about like

1:40:16

when Zachary Bagelbeits is always like Class A

1:40:18

EBP's, all of a sudden, every- They have

1:40:20

forget it. He's ever played as a joke.

1:40:22

I'm like, this is- Is nothing. Actually

1:40:25

insane. Even once he faked- even once he allegedly faked

1:40:27

are not as good. What can

1:40:29

we say? What happened? We haven't told them

1:40:31

yet. Yeah, so they say- I

1:40:34

assume also Megan or whoever,

1:40:36

please go ahead and play this

1:40:38

or Jack if you want to insert the audio when

1:40:40

you're welcome to. Are we allowed to? I

1:40:43

don't know. I feel like- I think we

1:40:45

would need their permission. Maybe not. Can we

1:40:47

just give them a big old shout out and say go watch

1:40:49

World's Curious Hauntings? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's

1:40:51

fine. Okay. Jack, please insert. But

1:40:55

yeah, so they

1:40:57

tell the spirits don't be afraid and then you

1:40:59

hear a kid's voice say, I'm not afraid. Okay.

1:41:04

Can I say something? I don't think that sounds

1:41:06

like a little kid. I think

1:41:08

it sounds like an old, old lady. Oh, they do sound

1:41:11

similar. Let me listen one more time.

1:41:14

But even though he said like it's a child the

1:41:16

second I played it, I was like, that's not a

1:41:18

child, my dude. That is an old lady. But let

1:41:20

me listen just to like see if I stand

1:41:22

by that. And underneath that

1:41:24

you can hear a little girl say, I am not

1:41:26

afraid. That's a question,

1:41:28

sir. I am not afraid. It's

1:41:32

that last part because she goes, I am

1:41:34

not afraid. Like it sounds almost

1:41:36

like frail. Uh-huh. I am not

1:41:39