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all states and situations. Happy birthday to

2:00

you. Go

2:10

M! Oh.

2:15

Happy birthday to you. Happy

2:21

birthday to you. Happy

2:26

birthday to you. How

2:30

about happy? Gilmore?

2:37

Happy birthday

2:39

to you. Oh no. I

2:41

know. We already have a call and

2:43

response. We can't add another laggy

2:46

online call and response. I refuse.

2:49

That's wild. You just don't want to have fun. That's kind of crazy.

2:52

You sound like a 33-year-old. I don't

2:54

know how many times I have to tell you that. That's

2:57

fine. I'll celebrate myself over

2:59

here. That's fine. How

3:02

does it feel to be so

3:04

close to 33? You

3:09

know, I just have to remind myself. Taylor Swift is a

3:11

year older than me and it makes me feel better. That's

3:14

true. For

3:17

me, I'm struggling

3:19

because I don't even

3:21

think I ever once said this year, oh,

3:23

I'm 31. And so to say

3:26

32, I feel like, oh, I haven't even done the 31

3:28

thing yet. Also,

3:30

32 feels like an

3:33

actual adult. And I'm sitting here in my

3:35

pool bowl. I think you're going

3:37

to say that every year though. But the

3:40

further away I get from teen

3:44

and college kids' approval, the more it hurts. I'm

3:46

just like, oh. Oh, yeah. That part,

3:48

I think that ship has sailed. Yeah. Yeah.

3:51

Yeah. Anyway, that's

3:54

how I feel. I think it's just like the

3:56

realization of like, oh, I am

3:59

not invincible. And I'm

4:01

not as cool as I thought it was but

4:03

whatever huh,

4:05

and because of that I'm Gonna

4:08

eat a lot of cake and not

4:10

only that I'm gonna eat not just a

4:12

lot of cake I'm gonna eat specifically fudgy

4:14

the whale cake. Oh yummy and What

4:18

else am I gonna do good choice? Hmm

4:21

hmm I'm going

4:23

to eat Strawberries with

4:25

whipped cream. I'm going to eat

4:28

s'mores and I'm going

4:30

to have What at

4:32

least one cup of dirt with the little

4:34

gummy worms. Are you going to

4:36

make the s'mores? Probably

4:39

over my my stove. Okay. I'm just wondering I'm

4:41

not judging I'm just curious because I think I

4:44

would also like to have a s'more. It's

4:46

I love a good s'more a birthday

4:48

s'more forget about it so and then

4:52

I'm gonna buy myself presents and I'm

4:54

going to make people take me out

4:56

to dinner and So

5:00

far that's all I've got oh, and I'm gonna sleep a lot. What are you

5:02

gonna do? It doesn't sound like you're

5:05

Old or whatever old and boring like you suggested earlier.

5:07

It sounds like you're still an adolescent So don't worry

5:09

you you're you're young. I mean the dream is that

5:11

I would have a house party But I don't think

5:13

anyone wants to do that anymore. So I do

5:18

Maybe we're the only ones maybe what are

5:20

you gonna love to do a house party? I

5:23

don't know. We talked about this a little on patreon, but

5:26

I feel like I'm just kind of Vibing

5:28

this year like I feel

5:30

like I've this is so lame and cliche

5:32

whatever I don't even know not cliche just

5:34

very like dorky But I feel like

5:37

I've done a lot of growth this year already

5:39

Like I've been really working on myself and I

5:41

sort of think I'm kind

5:43

of just happy With

5:45

whatever happens. I'm just like very

5:47

content right now. So I'm I'm

5:50

kind of excited to just See what

5:52

happens and usually I'm like very, you know Into

5:56

planning it but I think this year I'm just gonna be

5:58

like, yeah as

6:00

long as we go eat some good food

6:02

I'm gonna be happy. That's nice. And I'll

6:04

probably buy myself lots of presents, don't get me

6:06

wrong, and I will expect presents from other people,

6:08

but as far as the event, I

6:10

think I just kind of want to eat and

6:13

like chill. What

6:15

do you think you, Leona, is gonna get you for

6:17

your birthday? Probably

6:19

something that's actually for her, which is fine because

6:21

I feel like that's how it goes. Although,

6:25

Blaze is very good at gift-giving and he's

6:27

very good at picking out things

6:30

that are like very specific

6:32

to you. Like he and

6:34

Leona found like a crocodile card for

6:36

me from the Cincinnati Zoo

6:39

and like wrote a note on

6:41

it. Like they're very intentional, so I

6:43

save all the little trinkets and she's at that

6:45

age where she loves to like make cards

6:47

and draw pictures for people, even though

6:49

they just look like scribbles

6:54

because they are. But it still, you

6:56

know, it still touches the heart. Hmm.

7:00

But I don't know, I feel like Blaze gets so frustrated

7:02

because I'm like that person who buys things that I want.

7:05

Like Allison has that too. Yeah, I already

7:07

bought it. If I see something for like

7:09

20 bucks, I'm gonna be like, well that's mine now.

7:12

So yeah. And

7:14

then Allison's like, what do you want? And I'm like,

7:16

I don't know. I feel like if it's a big

7:18

thing, I'll like buy it. I'll like convince myself to

7:20

buy it. The littler things are the ones I hold

7:22

off on weirdly. Maybe that's the thing I

7:24

should do because there's no way Allison

7:26

would buy anything expensive for me because

7:30

between the two of us, I would definitely be the one

7:32

who makes a big purchase, but Allison will always justify not

7:34

making a big purchase. So the fact that that's all that

7:37

I leave her with is pretty cool. Right.

7:40

And I would buy, I would step in and buy

7:42

you something big, but I've already, I'm already doing that

7:44

for myself and everyone. Yeah,

7:46

you're busy with you, I understand. Yeah. So

7:48

it's okay. And Leona, I just, you know,

7:50

I just love a big purchase. That's not

7:53

good. It's not healthy. I'm sorry,

7:55

but it's who I am. Okay. I understood.

7:57

Yeah, I get it. be

8:00

on healthy to go. That's our birthday present. It's

8:02

our birthday. We can do whatever we want. Let's

8:04

be chaotic. I do this doing like birthday

8:06

episodes with you though. Remember in the

8:08

beginning when we would like open the

8:10

presents with with everybody? We'd have like

8:12

a big to-do yeah and I think

8:15

um yeah we would do present openings for Patreon.

8:17

It was a whole thing. I don't know if anyone

8:19

ever watched those but we had a lot of fun.

8:22

I remember having so much fun. I want to do that again. I

8:25

love to do that again. Maybe this year we

8:27

do we plan a birthday uh a

8:29

birthday meet-up for whenever we see each other.

8:31

We'll see each other in June right? So

8:34

maybe we do a June meet-up. Yeah.

8:37

I also wanted to take you into

8:39

that crawl space in my attic so

8:41

I feel like let's open it in

8:43

the crawl space. Okay now we're talking.

8:45

Let's do it. Perfect. Excellent. Great. Excellent.

8:47

Now we have plans. See this is

8:49

what happens when you just vibe. The

8:51

plans come to you. Well

8:54

uh speaking of vibing the welcome

8:56

to everybody who chose to sit down

8:58

and listen to this episode.

9:02

I did forget we were recording for a second

9:04

um but if this is

9:06

your first time listening to one of

9:08

our listeners episodes welcome. This is where

9:10

we read your encounters to the masses

9:13

and if you would like to send in your own

9:15

personal true crime and or paranormal

9:17

story you can do that at our website

9:19

and that's wageryc.com and uh

9:21

Eva has uh collected

9:24

some of the some of your stories

9:26

to tell us or for us to

9:28

read out loud but I think there

9:30

was supposed to be a birthday theme

9:32

this time around. It didn't work

9:34

out so maybe next month will be the

9:36

birthday theme. I don't know how it's coming. Oh

9:39

thanks Eva. Don't get your hopes back. Um

9:43

but apparently these will these are still a

9:45

smattering of good ones. They just maybe don't

9:47

have a present. She said it's not a

9:49

good present but it is um

9:52

present and to that I say I'll take

9:54

it. I think she told uh she

9:56

told me to do the first email to

9:58

do the first story. I Open

10:00

it. Oh really? Yeah, I

10:03

just keep saying no preview available Yeah,

10:06

hang on. Let me send it just to me

10:08

a little sexy. Yeah, I think so It

10:11

like just does a blank screen, which is so weird. I

10:13

think I've never seen that before Well,

10:15

I guess that means I'm destined to do the first

10:17

story. Yeah, that one worked. Okay, okay

10:20

I'll go you sit back and relax birthday girl.

10:22

Here we go. Oh We

10:25

get to like just trade off the crown I Love

10:28

sharing a birthday with you. Most people are

10:31

like isn't that awful? And I'm like that's

10:33

literally a we just said we're worse like

10:35

very self-involved people like you'd think that would

10:37

be really hard But it's like no we

10:39

just feed on it like we see other

10:41

like it was just like enable it If

10:44

I start feeling guilty, I'm like, maybe I shouldn't

10:46

make this purchase Christine's like do it or we

10:48

can't be friends anymore No, you don't my birthday to

10:50

em. You know my birthday thing

10:52

you buy it. Yeah. Yeah, it's very

10:55

toxic I love it This

10:57

is this is from someone named

11:00

Bria blue and that is her

11:02

real name Wow It

11:05

says hello. My name is Bria blue. She

11:08

her thing you're normalizing pronouns and I have been

11:10

listening to you guys for years now I

11:13

am born. I'm born raised and

11:15

still live in Springfield, Illinois Abe Lincoln

11:17

represent. I never even read the subject

11:19

line. Oh Oh What

11:21

you never even read it to yourself yet. No,

11:24

is it I? Was biggest

11:26

part of the page, isn't it? It was hidden away.

11:28

No, it was scrolled up So I didn't even notice

11:30

I was like, isn't there something else I say beforehand

11:33

It was the subject line and I see why Eva wanted me

11:35

to do this one first. Okay, my mom

11:37

and sister method uggers This

11:41

is okay, you know what's under selling it this

11:43

is a birthday present for you for sure Is

11:45

it spooky or a true crime? I don't

11:48

understand Well, I mean, I think just the

11:50

Duggers being involved is probably the true crime

11:52

part. No offense, but I Am

11:55

very excited. Do you see me blushing? I literally

11:57

I wish Eva could see this She's

12:00

not here today. Man. She knows you

12:02

so well. Bria Blusas, thank you

12:04

for sharing your fabulous voices, humor, and personality.

12:07

You guys have helped me through a lot and I

12:09

will always be grateful. It's very sweet of you. Now

12:11

I'm here for the Duggar story. Okay. I'm like,

12:13

I like you now, Bria. I

12:17

just got done listening to the episode where Christine talks

12:19

about the Duggar's, which by the way, I think was

12:21

the birthday episode last year. Oh, that was. Yes, because

12:23

yes, you're so right. I was like, I

12:26

was like, Saoirse, you and I need a plan and then

12:28

it happens to happen. And then like, poor Saoirse just

12:30

sent the notes to me in like the

12:32

first week of May, like, okay, here's the first

12:34

draft. I was like, oh, this is

12:36

fine. Don't worry. Like, don't worry. I'm not going

12:38

to make you do a whole research project. This

12:40

is enough. But yes, I took that very seriously.

12:42

Your birthday gift. I

12:45

just got done listening to the episode where Christine talks

12:47

about the Duggar's. I grew up watching the show as

12:49

my mom is a devout Christian and used to idolize

12:51

Michelle Duggar. Wow. I think it's

12:53

important to mention how deeply my mom

12:55

regrets this now. Okay. And

12:58

has done a lot of growing and has adopted

13:00

different views since then on account of my very

13:02

secular Gen Z sister and I. That's what's up.

13:04

Love that. Anyway, I

13:06

remembered my mom and sister met

13:09

Jim Bob, who's been

13:11

in a Briable who says truly what the fuck kind of

13:13

name is that? It's just not it's

13:15

not a name. But anyway, they met

13:17

Jim Bob, Anna and Anna's youngest son. Okay,

13:19

so Anna is Josh, the one we

13:21

hate wife. Josh, the

13:24

pedophile or the whatever he is,

13:26

the convicted child born guy.

13:28

Yep. Yeah. His wife is Anna

13:30

and his their youngest son, Mason,

13:32

is who they met. Gotcha. My

13:34

mom and sister got a picture

13:36

with Anna and Mason. And

13:39

my mom got a picture with Jim Bob. I

13:41

found it important to share these photos with you.

13:43

I know. I know. So

13:45

I know my mom reminded me that Josh

13:47

was there too. And they saw him in

13:49

close proximity, but did not care to talk

13:52

to him. Good. This is particularly unsettling considering my

13:54

sister was underage at the time of the interaction.

13:56

And this happened in 2018. And I can't exactly.

14:00

I remember what Josh trauma drama was occurring at

14:02

the time, but I'm sure it was absolutely vile

14:04

He wasn't his like actual

14:06

crimes hadn't been found out yet But

14:08

he was still I think his

14:10

unfaithfulness had come out. So

14:12

I'm actually watching fun fact

14:14

the Ashley Madison documentary on

14:18

Netflix right now, I think it's okay

14:20

and That

14:23

leak happened in 2015 so

14:25

that that okay, so that must have

14:27

been an outlet for the infidelity Why

14:29

do I know that I see I'm now on

14:31

the periphery together interests. It's really fun. We're like

14:34

a fucking powerhouse Together

14:36

we're law and order. Yeah And

14:39

then the pictures they don't I just have to

14:41

zoom in on them They should I open on

14:43

their own if you want to it's just

14:45

I'm staying next to each other but it's not a treat.

14:48

Oh god Jimbob and then

14:50

at the bottom is in between

14:52

them is Anna and the Sun Which

14:56

like which like that alone is so weird to me the like

14:58

why? Was well, I guess Josh was there too.

15:00

I was gonna say why is

15:02

Josh's wife and his dad hanging out

15:04

when like that would be like

15:07

well, I guess you know But

15:11

in that faith, it's like women aren't allowed to like even

15:13

leave the right property without a man Like he was taking

15:16

chaperoning. Yeah Even

15:19

though they already have a son. Anyway, that was oh,

15:21

no, I mean that job Oh, no,

15:23

I mean that Josh was chaperoning his wife

15:25

and dad hanging out. Yeah Anyway

15:29

that thank you Briably. That's very nice. That's

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18:48

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18:51

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18:55

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18:57

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18:59

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19:02

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19:08

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19:10

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19:13

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19:15

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19:17

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19:19

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19:23

I decided to resend it, you know, like

19:25

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19:27

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19:30

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19:32

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19:34

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19:36

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19:39

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19:41

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19:43

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19:45

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19:47

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19:49

the 1950s, but I assure you

19:51

it was the 90s. I knew every inch

19:53

of that forest still do. And one day I was wandering

19:55

out there by the cliff late at night. I was seven

19:57

or eight at the time. It was a school night. I

20:00

left my flashlight at home so I wouldn't get

20:02

caught sneaking out when I was supposed to be.

20:05

Okay. I would never thought

20:07

I would say this. I think I would

20:09

rather my child sneak out and go to

20:11

a friend's house than sneak out and wander

20:13

into the woods alone without a flashlight. Yeah,

20:15

truly. Like, I never thought I would say

20:17

go to a party. Yeah, but

20:19

like, at least don't go into the woods without

20:21

a flashlight. Yuck. And

20:24

no one knows where you are. You snuck out.

20:27

Oh my gosh. Really I'm like,

20:29

oh, sneaking out is a cute fun story.

20:31

Not into the woods in the dark. What

20:33

are you doing? Yeah, and Christine's a mom now.

20:35

You can't even... My anxiety.

20:37

Because in mine, I can think of it

20:39

in a way of like, I have no attachment to

20:42

like someone wandering out in the woods. But if I

20:44

had a baby, I'd be like, that would be quadruple.

20:46

Especially if you like check the camera or like, and

20:48

I mean, obviously in fact then there wasn't one, but

20:50

like, like peek in and the child's not in their

20:52

bed. And they're eight, so

20:55

they're not like out smoking weed yet,

20:57

presumably. Like they're just gone. Forget it.

21:00

But Leona, future Leona, if you are missing

21:02

by 16, just know that your mom thinks

21:04

you're just out smoking weed and that's it.

21:07

Honestly, and I'm like, just go to a house

21:09

party. Okay. And throwing one. I

21:11

heard. Live a little. Yeah,

21:13

live a little. No, no. I listen,

21:15

I'm the, I was the most straight edge kid ever, but, and

21:17

so I would see myself like I used to sneak out into

21:19

the cemetery at night, but like the woods, man. Okay.

21:22

Yeah. All right. Yeah.

21:25

I mean, listen, I was wandering out there by the cliffs late at night. I

21:28

was seven or eight at the time. It was a school

21:30

night. So I left my flashlight at home so I wouldn't

21:32

get caught sneaking out when I was supposed to be in

21:34

bed. It was the first day of the

21:36

full moon. So the sky was bright and clear and it

21:38

was a nice and chilly October night. I

21:41

was sitting on a fallen tree, skipping rocks when I

21:43

saw movement out of the corner of my eye. When

21:46

I looked to see what it was, it was

21:48

a guy sitting on a rock by the

21:51

edge of the creek, smoking a cigarette and

21:53

smiling, looking to his left

21:55

and talking to something that wasn't there.

21:58

Bitch. There's the

22:01

also gender neutrally. Was

22:03

I right or was I right about leaving?

22:05

Oh, gaping, running away into the woods.

22:07

Don't do that. Maybe one thing if it was a guy with

22:10

a cigarette, like pondering like deeply

22:12

or something. Like also skipping

22:14

rocks. But smiling and there's,

22:16

this is not an era of TikTok. It's

22:19

not like he's like looking at his phone and smiling and

22:22

talking to someone who is not there. He's

22:24

like, what else do you need? Leave. He

22:27

wasn't too tall wearing a red hoodie, had black

22:29

hair, a short beard, dark eyes and a kind

22:31

smile that wrinkled his cheeks. I

22:33

knew he wasn't there a second before and

22:35

I didn't trust strangers, especially ones that were

22:37

trespassing in the dark. So I got up

22:39

and ran. Okay, so you're right. My

22:42

shuffling on the rocks made him look up

22:44

and he made eye contact with me looking

22:46

confused and then he was gone like he

22:48

vanished into thin air. What the

22:50

fuck? Years ago. Like a ghost?

22:52

Yeah. Like a ghost? Okay. Anyway,

22:56

years went by and I forgot all about

22:58

this weird encounter, especially since those woods were

23:00

full of weird encounters. I moved out, got

23:03

a car, started working and my life moved

23:05

out of the forest and into an apartment

23:07

across town. I had just gotten out

23:09

of a 10 year abusive relationship which did not end

23:11

well. It actually took me a while to admit just

23:13

how abusive it was with some friends. I

23:16

thought I was in love and not good enough for

23:18

him but really it was just a bad situation all

23:20

around. I was living with some friends in a small

23:22

apartment and I was fighting so hard to feel valid.

23:25

I was in a really bad place and looked for

23:27

validation in all the wrong places, one of them being

23:30

Tinder. I know, I know, don't judge me.

23:33

I don't judge you for that. No.

23:35

I've been on Tinder and I've also been married five

23:37

years. So you know what? I mean,

23:39

to be clear, it was before I was married. So we've

23:41

all been there. I know, I know, don't

23:43

judge me. I went through literal hell on that app.

23:46

After going through a bunch of assholes, including, oh no,

23:48

oh my God. Okay. I

23:50

said, we've been there too soon. Including one

23:52

who drugged me and locked me in his

23:54

basement, a story for another day. I

23:57

decided to try one more time because apparently I

23:59

hadn't learned. my lesson. I matched with a

24:01

guy in July who was cute, he had kind

24:03

eyes, his first picture was him in a suit

24:06

sitting in front of a piano with an upright

24:08

bass leaning on his knee and his other picture

24:10

was him in the woods sitting on a dirt

24:12

bike that was entirely too big for him covered

24:15

in mud with a huge smile on his face.

24:17

That smile made me feel safe and we started

24:19

talking. We formed a bond over our interests in

24:21

forests, birds, dogs, music and a mutual love of

24:24

90s Japanese station wagons. I

24:28

smell ADHD. Let's talk about

24:30

forests, music,

24:33

dogs, 90s

24:36

Japanese station wagons. I mean it's like the

24:38

most niche, the least niche and the most

24:40

niche things. I know a hyper interest

24:42

when I see one. That's crazy. And

24:45

then he ghosted me. As quickly

24:47

as he showed up in my life, he disappeared

24:50

for three months. He didn't answer any of my

24:52

texts and I moved on to another half ass

24:54

conversation on the internet. When he

24:56

showed back up out of nowhere, it was October

24:58

and he just sent me a, hey, sorry, I

25:00

fell off the face of the earth. You want

25:02

to hang out tonight? I

25:04

decided I would half ass this too. Obviously he

25:06

wasn't super interested or he wouldn't have disappeared

25:08

on me. So I told him, sure. I had

25:11

errands to run in town in

25:13

the town where he lived. So I would pick him up

25:15

when I was done and we could go get dinner. I

25:17

put no effort into my outfit, Halloween leggings and a t-shirt

25:19

from a local pizzeria with the top cut off. And I

25:21

met him in the parking lot of a Target where we

25:23

got into my car and went out for dinner. We

25:26

got cheesesteaks and talked about life. And he explained

25:28

he had ghosted me because he had been in

25:30

and out of the hospital because of a chronic

25:32

illness. He had been living with all

25:35

his life. He didn't tell me at the time

25:37

what it was, but Christine would understand his plate.

25:39

He never meant to keep me hanging, but he was

25:41

in good health for now and wanted to take the

25:43

opportunity to meet and hang out. After dinner,

25:46

I took him into the woods behind my grandmother's house.

25:48

We didn't bring any flashlights. We didn't need them. It was

25:50

the first night of the full moon and the sky was

25:52

bright and clear. We talked all night sitting on the edge

25:54

of the creek, skipping rocks, learning about each other, though it

25:56

felt like we had known each other for years. And this

25:59

is the end of the show. was just a refresher. It

26:01

was almost 1am when something caught his eye and

26:04

he looked away from me mid-sentence towards a fallen

26:06

tree on the other side of the creek. He

26:08

looked confused and said, did you

26:10

see that? I was also confused

26:12

thinking he had just seen the trees rustling from the

26:14

wind and I said no, I didn't

26:16

see anything. He said there

26:19

was a little girl over there on the rocks. She

26:21

ran that way but I don't see her anymore. Shut

26:25

the fuck up. So he wasn't talking to no one.

26:27

He was talking to future her. And

26:30

she couldn't even see her future self. Shut

26:34

the fuck up. Oh

26:37

my god. Wow.

26:40

Oh my lord. Okay. Whoa.

26:44

I looked at the fallen tree and an image flashed

26:46

into my mind of being that little girl, seeing a

26:48

man sitting on the rocks across the creek

26:50

and running back towards my house and his

26:53

vanishing into the night. I took

26:55

a second to really look at him now.

26:57

Not too tall, red hoodie, black hair, short

26:59

black beard, dark eyes and that kind wrinkled

27:01

smile with a cigarette dangling from his hand.

27:04

I told him I didn't see anything and it was

27:06

probably just a neighbor kid wandering the woods where she

27:08

isn't supposed to be and told him not to worry

27:10

about it. It all started to make sense why his

27:13

smile made me feel safe and why I was drawn

27:15

to those dark eyes when I saw him on Tinder. I

27:17

knew I had seen him before. We have

27:19

now been together for six years and

27:22

we're planning our life together. We got

27:24

married this past December in 2023. It

27:26

was a beautiful woodland wedding surrounded by

27:28

people we love and maybe someday I'll

27:31

tell him that we met once before

27:33

that day in October, a long time

27:35

ago in the 90s, he

27:38

just didn't know it yet. He,

27:41

you haven't told him? That

27:43

would be the first motherfucking thing out of my

27:46

mouth. Within seconds. By the way, the first

27:48

thing I would have done is marry him on site and the

27:50

second thing I would have done is told him. What do

27:52

you mean you haven't told him? Even with

27:54

him for six years he doesn't know that

27:56

you saw him when you were nine? That

27:58

he time travels? He doesn't even

28:00

tell him he time traveled sometimes. Like

28:04

in that moment when he was nine, did he

28:06

like run into you or like did he like

28:08

what was his body? Did he

28:10

feel something? Because in my mind if

28:12

this like a Nicholas Sparks movie right

28:15

nine-year-old her see him. Yeah,

28:17

nine-year-old her sees him In

28:19

that moment where he was like smiling and talking to someone

28:21

that might have been the moment that he like fell in

28:23

love You got to witness

28:25

it and you got to watch him fall in

28:28

love. Like why haven't you mentioned

28:30

this because for all you know he has your

28:32

way now. For all you know

28:34

he's been wondering this whole time if he should tell you

28:36

like I actually fell in love with you on our first

28:38

Day when we were singing by that rock, but I didn't

28:40

know how to tell you. I mean because you could have

28:42

seen it happen Come

28:44

on Wow

28:48

you have a you and this other

28:50

I'm not you and M and I

28:52

could never this M and I could never It

28:55

would it would literally be my entire personality.

28:57

There's no way our entire fucking personality if we

28:59

met this way This is all we would talk

29:01

about like we would have nothing else to talk

29:03

about I know it would it would

29:06

come up in every conversation Maybe that's why you haven't

29:08

told them because you just know that you'll look like

29:10

maybe you're like permanently god. Yeah. Wow. I'm

29:12

just so So Taken

29:14

by the story. This is incredible That's

29:17

amazing and also amazing now. I'm panicked because

29:19

i'm like anytime I see like someone who

29:21

I've thought like maybe was

29:24

Going through something because they were talking to someone who wasn't there.

29:26

What if that's just you sure me they're talking to I don't even

29:29

know it Oh my lord, you're right. And

29:31

what if that invisible person is just you all

29:33

along? They could now I found a

29:35

new way to like have an ego. I'm like, oh, it's

29:37

obviously me they're talking to Oh, I'll

29:39

just let me wave to the air. Hello.

29:41

Yeah. Yeah, someone's on the phone. You're like,

29:43

oh, hi And they're like, yeah Future

29:46

me. I know it happens all the time. We'll

29:48

meet again. I'll tell you about it later Don't

29:50

worry. You'll be that weirdo talking to people on

29:52

the street. Yeah Um, em,

29:54

so thanks for everything you do. I sincerely

29:56

love you guys and your banter i've been

29:58

listening since episode three Holy shit. And

30:01

you guys have really helped me through a lot of

30:03

tough times, like living in my car and trying and

30:05

succeeding. Thank you very much. Love that. To survive the

30:07

worst year of my life, never stop being you, M.

30:09

Whoa. That's

30:12

one of the wildest fucking

30:14

stories ever. That's so cool. That's

30:16

so cool. I'm so jealous.

30:18

That's just incredible. I'm

30:21

jealous. Okay, next one. You

30:24

got it like, other M, sorry. You've got

30:26

to like, write this into a

30:28

book or like, tell your partner

30:30

at the least. I want to know. They're all

30:33

Nicholas Sparks. Tell

30:35

Nicholas Sparks, but have your lawyer present because I

30:37

don't want that guy to steal this from you.

30:40

Yeah. Just after every word, say like

30:42

trademark. TM, TM, TM, TM, TM, TM, TM, TM. Okay.

30:47

Let's see. Number one. Okay.

30:51

Oh my God. The subject line again. Do

30:53

you want to read it? Oh, I don't know. So

30:56

people know I'm not crazy. Yeah. Read

30:58

number three. Okay. What's

31:01

the subject line? Number

31:03

three is called, the time I slipped

31:05

off the duckers. Eva,

31:08

you sneaky girl. This is definitely a

31:10

birthday surprise. If the next one's also

31:12

the duckers, I mean, that's a great

31:15

theme. You really picked out a- That's

31:17

called a triple decker. That's kind of a

31:19

hat trick. Okay.

31:21

Well, here

31:24

we go. This is from Jean who uses she,

31:26

her pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns. And

31:28

the story says, hi, Eva. Not a

31:31

terribly exciting story, but since Emma's about

31:33

as obsessed with the duckers as I am, I was

31:35

raised, I was raised in an

31:37

Uber conservative Catholic household with 10 kids and

31:39

was homeschooled. So the Duggar situation feels very

31:42

similar to mine. Whoa.

31:44

I thought I would send in this anecdote. Last

31:47

September in 2023, my husband

31:49

and I planned to take our two year

31:51

old to visit friends in Northwest Arkansas, which is

31:53

where the Dougers are. Two of my

31:56

friends- I did not have that. Yep.

31:58

Two of my friends from high school live there. and one

32:00

of them also has a two-year-old son, so we were all excited

32:02

to see each other and have the boys meet. The

32:04

first full day we were there, we planned to

32:07

go to my friend AC's mom's house because she

32:09

has a pool and we thought it would be fun for the

32:11

boys to swim together. While we were

32:13

still in the planning phase, I was texting with

32:15

AC to get suggestions of what else to do

32:17

and somehow the duggers came up. She

32:20

casually dropped, oh, I didn't tell you, I

32:22

drive past their house every day and my

32:24

mom lives like five minutes from them. Maybe

32:26

that's just normal in that area. It's got

32:29

to be. The duggers are everywhere. I

32:31

mean, if you think about it, mathematically, if

32:33

each of the 19 kids

32:35

had 19 kids, there would

32:39

be 500 duggers in one town. That's

32:41

out of control. Eventually. Right,

32:45

right, right. Everyone has

32:47

a way away from a dugger at any given point.

32:51

Everyone in Northwest Arkansas has a

32:54

story about a dugger. Yeah, yeah. I

32:56

wonder, not I wonder, I know

32:58

if I lived in Northwest Arkansas, my goal

33:00

would be to try to collect all the

33:03

sightings, like get one of each. Oh, for sure.

33:05

Oh, yeah. Yeah, no doubt. Which

33:08

is so, I'm not trying to objectify people, but I also

33:10

know my brain, I would secretly just keep a list of

33:12

the groups. But it would be like a log,

33:14

like you would log which ones you've been

33:16

able to capture in the wild like a

33:19

Pokemon, like sighted in the wild. Yeah, yeah.

33:22

I'm like objectifying. It's

33:24

just like they're Pokemon. I know. It's like

33:26

they're not. I'm not calling them objects. I'm

33:28

calling them things. They're just trading cards. Yeah.

33:31

I know. So I hope people know what

33:33

I meant by that. Okay.

33:36

So Jean says, oh, friend

33:39

says, I drive past their house every day. Jean

33:42

says, girl, what? Turns out when AC drops

33:44

her son off at her mom's house every

33:46

day for babysitting, she passes the dugger compound

33:48

and flips them off every time. Oh,

33:50

yeah. It's called

33:52

the well, the Snarkers call

33:54

it the bugger compound. Yeah. And

33:58

she sent me a video of her. herself flipping off

34:00

the house one time. I was like, this is

34:02

my routine, my daily drive. So

34:05

fast forward to us actually getting to AC's mom's

34:07

house, having the boys play together and just all

34:09

around having a wonderful morning. But when it was

34:11

time to leave, AC told us to follow her

34:14

and we would pass the Duggar house on the

34:16

way to our Airbnb. Sure enough,

34:18

five minutes later, we're passing the Duggar house and I'm throwing

34:20

the bird right out the window. JB,

34:23

not JB, sorry, Justin

34:26

Bieber. Jim Bob is

34:28

the other JB. Yeah,

34:31

there are only two. There's only

34:33

two, Justice Beaver as Dwight Schrute

34:35

would say and Jim Bob. Justice

34:38

Beaver. Jim

34:41

Bob and Michelle are such awful

34:43

people preaching horrible dangerous ideas. I'm

34:45

so glad Jill has gotten

34:47

away from them and I hope their kids follow her

34:50

lead. And I'm

34:52

always so sad for those kids. Anyway, that's the

34:54

time I flipped off the Duggar's. We're heading back

34:56

to Arkansas again in a few weeks, so maybe

34:58

I'll flip them off again. Yes. From

35:01

Texas, Jean. Oh, give them an

35:03

extra one for me, please. Wow,

35:05

that's crazy. Thank

35:08

you, Jean, for fulfilling

35:11

all my birthday desires. Yeah, I

35:13

mean, Em's really getting like quite a,

35:16

just a Duggar themed

35:18

celebration. A Duggar

35:21

Deluxe combo number five.

35:25

This one, oh, okay, Eva. It's

35:29

like she reads my mind. Is

35:31

it cowboys? What is it? No,

35:33

but it's the astral

35:35

plane. Okay, well, here we

35:37

go. Yeah, Eva's like, oh, Christina, this

35:39

is very Duggar heavy. Here's one specifically

35:41

for you. This is called,

35:44

this is from Rocky. She her. What

35:46

a great name. What's it called? My body almost

35:48

got snatched in the astral plane. Okay,

35:51

well now this is my worst nightmare. Okay,

35:53

I'm excited. Let's go. Dear Christina and

35:55

Eva and the amazing crew of And That's What We Drink. Today,

35:57

I want to talk to you about my first time astral projecting.

36:00

the very creepy message I got from someone

36:02

in the astral plane. And

36:04

really before we recorded today I was trying to

36:06

astral project. Now I'm like, should I? Okay. Yes,

36:08

you should and we should, you should do whatever. Just

36:10

put it in the end. I keep trying to visit you.

36:13

Oh, okay. But first I want to thank you

36:15

for everything you do. That's very kind. I've

36:18

told, oh wait, okay. I love your banter and going down

36:20

the rabbit hole with you. I've told just about everyone I

36:22

know about the history of celery. Thank

36:24

you. Thank you, Joy, the

36:27

Lord's work. Your podcast has helped me through

36:29

my commute to work, folding laundry, the bane

36:31

of amen, any ADHD or existence and all

36:33

the mundane chores, which would, I do have

36:35

actually a laundry

36:38

show and laundry podcasts that are like

36:40

my special treat for when I like fold

36:42

laundry because I'm like, otherwise we'll never do it.

36:45

That's so nice. So I get it. Anyway,

36:48

so it's an honor to be that for someone else,

36:50

you know, like that. I'm the laundry podcast for someone

36:52

makes me really happy. Okay.

36:55

Now let's crack into it. A few months ago, I

36:57

asked her projected for the first time out of nowhere.

36:59

Oh my God. Lucky.

37:02

I have never tried to ask a project

37:04

before. I've never kept a dream diary or

37:06

even had a lucid dream. Okay. Okay.

37:09

So you're just one of God's favorites. Okay. Don't

37:12

brag. I'm trying too hard is what

37:14

I'm getting from this. Um, wow. I

37:16

came home from school in the, this is a few

37:18

months ago. Just keep in mind. I came home from

37:20

school in the late afternoon, went to bed early, absolutely

37:22

bone tired from my day. I don't

37:24

remember falling asleep, just getting in bed and suddenly

37:27

waking up again. I jolted up in

37:29

bed as if I had just woken up from a bad

37:31

dream and I got out of bed quickly and a little

37:33

bit of panic. When I turned around,

37:36

I saw myself in

37:38

bed sound asleep by what

37:41

she just like pulled herself out of her

37:43

body to

37:45

be so special.

37:48

I just don't know that. I just don't know that experience.

37:51

So interesting because that is what they say. It's

37:53

so hard to understand as someone who's never asked

37:55

or projected, but the, the, the

37:58

strategy is that you're supposed to. literally

38:00

sit up without sitting up. Like

38:03

you're supposed to, your

38:05

astral self is supposed to sit up, but you're

38:07

not. I only astral projected once

38:09

when I was a kid and it and I but

38:11

I was like I wasn't obviously trying to do it.

38:14

What happened again you like flew around your house or

38:16

something? I flew around my kitchen. Yeah. And

38:18

then I just flew right back up to bed

38:21

and I just sat right back into my body.

38:23

Popped back on in. Yeah so I feel like

38:25

it happens by accident sometimes and then

38:27

but so the method is the same way which

38:29

is really interesting that you really are supposed to

38:31

like almost rip yourself out of your body. Like

38:34

this rip is a bad word but like you're supposed to kind

38:36

of like quickly like just pull out. So

38:38

it sounds like you did that by accident,

38:40

Rocky. Well very

38:42

much so by accident. So it says I got

38:46

out of bed a little quickly in a pit of a

38:48

panic when I turn around I saw myself in bed sound

38:50

asleep. I didn't know what was going

38:52

on and I started freaking out. I tried to

38:55

wake myself up but when I tried to

38:57

touch my body oh this is so crazy.

38:59

When I tried to touch my body my hands

39:01

went right through my torso. This

39:04

is freaking me to eff out because like this

39:07

is hearing from someone who had not been even

39:09

practicing or planning this. It's not like oh I've

39:11

been envisioning what I would do if I ever

39:13

ever asked or projected. This is like someone who

39:15

doesn't even realize what they're doing. So it's

39:19

amazing to hear your

39:21

experience. This is so cute. I'm

39:23

sorry not knowing what to do. I went to look

39:25

for my mom. I live with my mama. We have

39:27

a really close relationship and I thought if anyone could

39:29

help me. Can you imagine Leona's soul shows up she

39:31

goes I can't get back into my body mom. Don't

39:34

look at me

39:37

I clearly don't know how to do it. I

39:39

feel like I'm trying to get out of my

39:41

body. I can't even do it you lucky duck.

39:43

I thought if anyone could help me it'd be

39:45

my mom. I was honestly so panicked and freaked

39:48

out. It hadn't even occurred to me yet that

39:50

I could be dreaming or after projecting. I

39:52

walked out to the living room to find my

39:54

mom eating popcorn and watching television in her pajamas.

39:57

I remember she was wearing a blue

39:59

90. I had never seen her in before

40:01

and watching one of her stories. I

40:03

tried to talk to her but she didn't acknowledge me at all.

40:06

Oh, so this is interesting too, Em. Oh, that

40:08

made my stomach flip. So I guess sometimes you're

40:10

not visible to people. Because I mean, hello,

40:13

someone with a glitch in the matrix

40:15

was invisible. It's weird. Yeah, I guess

40:18

you never know. Okay, but she looked

40:21

I stood in front of the TV and waved my hands,

40:23

but she looked right through me. At this

40:25

point, my panic had started to subside and I

40:27

came to the conclusion I must be in a

40:30

dream. I remember making the decision to explore the

40:32

house and walking to the kitchen. The kitchen in

40:34

our house has a door that slides open and

40:36

closed. And when I approached the door was shut.

40:38

When I slid the door open on the other

40:40

side, I was shocked. Oh, see, this is what

40:42

happens. And if you're ever in a lucid dream,

40:46

if you envision a door and open it, it's

40:50

like your key to your mind to

40:52

create a whole new setting.

40:54

Okay. So like even if

40:56

you're opening just like a closet door it in

40:58

your dream or whatever, it probably won't be a closet. It'll be

41:00

like a whole new world factory,

41:03

a new field, like something

41:05

completely different. Yes, I

41:07

was shocked to find there was a very

41:09

large green filled filled with people filled with

41:11

people picnicking. When I opened the door, all

41:14

of the people this is from fucking inception,

41:16

turned around and looked at me all

41:19

at the same time and just continued

41:21

to stare. I'm telling you like when

41:23

I tell you in my butt right now, I'm

41:25

so freaked out. Even my soul

41:27

needs a Xanax. If I ever went like,

41:29

if I ever went astral projecting and everyone

41:31

did that, like the fact

41:33

that my performance anxiety would exist on

41:35

all planes is insane. Like your soul

41:38

has fucking performance anxiety. That's not fair.

41:40

So that I would,

41:42

I mean, I would just try to slowly

41:45

close that door. Can you keep your astral

41:47

pants? Because I think I would just pee

41:49

my pants. Like I don't know. I don't

41:51

know. I don't know what I would do. What

41:53

happens when your soul passes out?

41:55

Does it die? Because I think

41:57

I die. If everyone turned around

42:00

like a like a like a

42:02

fucking you a bum house productions

42:04

movie I really die of embarrassment

42:06

and horror all at the same time

42:08

horror the dread would be out of control it's

42:10

a dread and also the fears of like well

42:12

now that I've opened a spiritual

42:15

door does that mean they can follow me

42:17

back in if I try to leave right

42:19

like are they mad at me they see

42:21

why are they all looking am I not

42:23

supposed to be here did I see something

42:25

I'm not supposed to see am I not

42:27

am I getting punished like are

42:29

they gonna come back and hurt me later oh my

42:31

god do they know how to find me through my

42:33

pantry or whatever this wardrobe

42:35

sonarnia is and

42:38

also like to not

42:40

even know what's going on like you don't even

42:42

realize you're dreaming you're just like and

42:45

by the way I've done a lot of

42:47

astral projection research recently mostly just reading people's

42:49

anecdotal stories but still and the

42:51

way it's often described is it

42:53

feels like real debt real life like it's not

42:55

like a dream where the memory kind of gets

42:57

hazy afterward like even in a lucid dream like

43:00

if I don't write it down right away I'll

43:02

forget it but like apparently after production feels like

43:04

you're literally because you're conscious you're fully conscious so

43:06

you're just like apparently

43:09

it's supposed to be as vivid

43:11

and real as waking life so

43:14

this isn't like you could brush it off

43:16

as a dream afterward I imagine at

43:19

this point I freaked out again ran back

43:21

to my bedroom and laid down over my

43:23

own body waiting and hoping

43:25

to fall asleep in the dream and return

43:28

to reality it's giving like Peter Pan trying

43:30

to like press his shadow into him literally

43:32

like force it yes a hundred percent is

43:34

what I thought of too eventually

43:37

after some time I woke up in real life and

43:39

was happy to find there was only one of me

43:41

I mean it does sound like a

43:43

freaky Friday like Disney Channel original yeah

43:45

that you clone yourself

43:48

you know I ran out

43:50

to the living room to tell my mom about

43:52

my dream and stop dead in my tracks not

43:54

only was she watching the same episode of her

43:56

show on the television she was also wearing the

43:59

same blue nighties from my dream that I had

44:01

never seen before and munching on popcorn. I

44:03

asked where she had gotten her pajamas from and

44:06

she said she had just bought them from Walmart.

44:08

And that's when I realized what had happened hadn't

44:10

been a dream at all. There was absolutely no

44:12

way I could dream what my mom was watching,

44:15

wearing, and eating. Thinking about it still gives me

44:17

chills. The next night and every night

44:19

for the next few days I was really afraid of

44:21

astral projecting again, but night after night I went to

44:23

sleep without incident. It got to the point where I

44:26

thought it would never happen again and I was safe.

44:28

I even began to dismiss my own experience as

44:30

a coincidence and just a very vivid dream,

44:33

though I couldn't explain how I had known what she

44:35

was watching, eating, and wearing. Then one

44:37

night a few months later it happened again. I

44:41

woke up and was sitting inside

44:43

my own sleeping body, like

44:46

literally something straight out of a movie.

44:48

So like you're basically just sitting up

44:50

out of your body is what's happening

44:52

here, Rotten. Like you're

44:54

somehow subconsciously just like sitting

44:57

up and leaving your body behind. This

45:00

time I went into the living room, there was no

45:02

one home, and for some reason I felt much braver

45:04

than I had the first time I had astral projected.

45:06

I was determined to figure out what was

45:09

going on. I opened up my kitchen door

45:11

expecting to find the field full of people,

45:13

but inside was just my kitchen again. Well,

45:16

I thought if there's no one home I'll just

45:18

have to go outside and ask someone else what

45:21

is going on. This sounds like me and Elusa

45:23

dream. Makes sense. Makes sense. I left

45:25

my house and began to walk down the street determined to

45:27

find someone to pay attention to me and tell me

45:29

what was happening. That's what Em and I

45:31

do. We leave our house determined to find someone

45:33

to pay attention to us and tell

45:35

us what's happening. Mm-hmm, yes. Tell

45:38

me what's happening and call me pretty. How much more could

45:41

I possibly ask? Blaze and Allison. Blaze.

45:44

There were people I didn't recognize on the streets,

45:47

but they all just gave me weird, suspicious, sideways

45:49

glances and wouldn't talk to me if I approached

45:51

them. I tried talking, I wonder what

45:53

they saw, Em. Honestly,

45:55

I don't know. I have no idea. I'd

45:58

be like, what do I look like right now? Am

46:00

I pretty? Am I pretty? What's happening? I tried

46:03

talking to a few people, but every time I

46:05

said anything, they would walk right past me. A

46:07

ways from my house, there's a bus stop and I noticed

46:10

there was a red bus pulled up to it with people

46:12

getting on. I don't know what gave me the gall or

46:14

the bravery, but I remember thinking I could get answers if

46:16

I could get on the bus. Oh

46:18

my God, what the fuck? Oh, and

46:20

then she wrote, try walking away from me if you're

46:22

stuck on a bus next to me. Love

46:25

that. But before I could board

46:27

the bus, I felt someone grab my arm

46:29

and pull me out of the bus door.

46:32

Honestly, thank God someone was looking out for you. I'm

46:34

so afraid. Yeah, me too. I

46:36

turned around to see a man I'd never

46:38

met before looking super worried at me. He

46:41

looked at me like he knew me and

46:43

said very gravely, what are you doing here?

46:47

I'm so scared right now. Oh

46:50

my God. It's like really scaring me.

46:53

What are you doing here? I asked him if I

46:55

knew him, but he ignored my question and kept talking.

46:58

You shouldn't be here. You need to go back

47:00

to your body or they will take it. Motherfucker.

47:05

What the hell? I am so scared right

47:07

now. Oh my God. Also

47:09

like the fact that

47:11

he's ignoring, like he clearly, clearly

47:14

to me, whatever. But

47:16

like he knew, he

47:19

knew you and you should. You're

47:21

not supposed to know who he is. I'm assuming because in

47:23

a past life you knew each other and he's like, not

47:25

right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's

47:28

like, don't worry about that. I know you. What the

47:30

fuck is going on? Yeah. I took

47:32

the calendar. You're supposed

47:34

to be in bed now or

47:36

else they will take your body. Oh

47:38

my God. I was shocked and

47:40

super freaked out and asked him again, but he shoved

47:43

me in the direction of my house and said, you

47:45

need to go back to your body now. After

47:48

that, he got on the bus and suddenly

47:50

I lost all my determination. Thank God.

47:53

I decided to run back to my house and to

47:55

my bedroom. My body was still there sound asleep and

47:57

I laid in myself laid down in myself

48:00

just like I had the time before. This

48:02

time when I woke up however I had

48:04

sleep paralysis. I was awake in my body

48:06

but I couldn't get myself to move. Around

48:09

my room I could see shadowy figures floating

48:11

above my bed staring down at me. I

48:13

wanted to scream and run or do anything

48:15

to make it stop but I couldn't move.

48:17

I stayed like that for what felt like

48:19

hours in full-blown panic mode until finally I

48:21

felt like I was released from what felt

48:23

like a living nightmare. I know sleep paralysis

48:25

is just your mind hallucinating and muscle paralysis

48:27

but I am still convinced today that the

48:29

shadowy figures I saw floating around in my room

48:31

staring down at me were the things the man

48:33

in the astral plane was trying to warn me

48:36

about. Ever since then when I've

48:38

astral projected I've never left my room afraid

48:40

that something is going to try and snatch my

48:43

body. I still don't know if I completely believe

48:45

in astral projection. Are you kidding me Rocky? Are

48:48

you kidding me? Here I am, actually

48:50

trying night after night to just get

48:52

a glimpse of this. Privilege! No,

48:57

just kidding.

49:00

I'm not sure if I completely believe in astral projection

49:03

or if what happened to me was more a dream

49:05

than reality but I can tell you one thing I'm

49:07

never going to leave my room again when I'm in

49:09

the astral plane. Stay safe out there folks in the

49:11

real world and the astral one and beware of the

49:13

body snatchers. Cheers Rocky. This was my favorite story we've

49:16

ever done on this show I think. I'm like that that's

49:18

crazy. That was good. That was a

49:21

good one. Yeah, it had character,

49:23

adventure, windy, fear, all of it.

49:25

Big red bus. Big

49:28

red bus? What more could I ask for? Well

49:31

done. Tell me what's happening and tell me I'm pretty.

49:34

I'm wondering if round three for me is

49:36

also gonna be. Oh can I

49:38

add one thing? Yeah. I just

49:40

want to say to Rocky too, I know that

49:42

it sounds really scary that that person said to

49:44

you oh they're gonna take your body.

49:47

My and listen I'm no expert

49:49

okay I promise but my gut

49:52

instinct or or reaction to

49:54

that is maybe that

49:56

your consciousness conjured

49:58

that to be like Quit

50:01

messing around. Almost

50:04

like a

50:06

real literal threat, like the demons will take your

50:08

body away, but like, just your own mind manifesting

50:10

like, come on, get back in your body, you're

50:13

not supposed to be wandering around. I don't know

50:15

though. Also, I feel like all the

50:17

spirits that are much more informed than

50:19

we are about this stuff, they must

50:21

hate the fucking kids who are like,

50:23

I'm going to learn to astral project. They're like,

50:25

whoa. I'm just going to wander around and see

50:27

what's going on. Your fucking soul is supposed to

50:29

be in your body on earth. That's the point.

50:31

You're only here for like 60 fucking

50:34

years to stay in there. You have eternity

50:36

to be out of your body. Yeah. One

50:39

day you'll wish you had a vessel or

50:41

something. Yes. Anyway,

50:44

I don't know. I've heard that

50:46

things in the astral plane can be a little scary, but a lot

50:48

of times it's just like your own ego getting in the

50:50

way and talking and that it's supposed

50:52

to be all loving and light. But what do

50:54

I know? That's just what I tell myself.

50:57

It makes me wonder like what happens to the people we

50:59

never hear about. That's exactly. That's

51:01

terrifying. Who never

51:03

actually did go back to their body or listen to any

51:05

of the signs. Like what if you got on the bus?

51:08

Yeah. And then and then what in the real world,

51:10

we just thought you like died in your sleep. Like

51:12

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53:18

my next one is called,

53:21

it's not a Duggar one, but it's called Glitch

53:23

in the Matrix or this is a

53:25

Christine one, Glitch in the Matrix

53:27

or Possible Alien Abduction. I like

53:30

to call this Por que no los dos. Yeah,

53:33

it's a ziti and diti and diti. This

53:36

is from Vic who uses he him pronouns.

53:38

Thank you for normalizing pronouns. And

53:40

Vic says, I've been listening to your podcast from

53:42

the very beginning and always wanted to turn a

53:44

story in. I'm from Los Angeles,

53:46

but moved to Michigan in 2004 when I was eight.

53:48

I have a couple of friends out there I'm still

53:51

in contact with and I've known them since we were

53:53

in diapers. Well, one

53:55

of them, we'll call him E. E told

53:58

me this story about the time. time he went missing

54:00

for four days and didn't even know he was missing. E

54:04

is a truck driver that drives all around

54:06

the West Coast and he took a route

54:09

like any other regular day from Salt Lake

54:11

City that was headed to Vegas. The route

54:13

was scheduled to leave

54:15

Tuesday afternoon. Keep that in

54:17

mind. Okay. Tuesday afternoon. So

54:19

he did his usual thing, calling his friends and family that

54:21

he was and telling them he was heading to Vegas and

54:23

everything was normal. He was driving at night and thought it was...

54:26

I already imagined if I called you and said,

54:28

I'm going to Vegas and everything is normal. Hi.

54:31

If you said anything... You feel like I'm

54:33

calling the police. If

54:35

you said anything and at the end put

54:37

everything is normal, I'd go, I know you're not telling the

54:42

truth. I beg the trooper. Yeah. If

54:45

you just said like, oh, I'm just, you

54:47

know, I'm eating cereal, everything's normal, I'd

54:49

be like... Oh, red

54:52

alert, red flag. I feel like that was the dumbest

54:54

thing you could have ever said. I think it's gone

54:56

terribly wrong. He

54:58

was driving at night and thought it was weird he

55:01

hadn't seen a car for hours. He was on his

55:03

phone trying to text and call his family, but nothing

55:05

was going to sleep. He like entered

55:07

a liminal space or something? Ew. He

55:10

figured it was just the signal so he left

55:12

it alone. So he's driving and driving and still

55:14

no car. His friends and family haven't called him

55:16

or anything. So he thought that was weird. Finally,

55:19

he sees a car in the distance and

55:21

then he sees another later on. He sees

55:23

the city and starts seeing more and more

55:25

cars, but he's on his way

55:27

to his destination and he gets pulled over. But

55:30

the strange thing about this is that the cop

55:32

only asked for his ID and asked if he

55:35

had been on any drugs or alcohol. And

55:37

my friend said, no, he'd been driving all

55:39

night from Salt Lake. The cops

55:41

told him to follow him to the station and

55:43

he asked if he was being detained. The

55:45

cops said no, but they had questions they wanted

55:47

to ask. Time

55:50

police? I'm so scared. If

55:53

there was such a thing as time police, we

55:55

would be them partner in time. Well, we've already

55:57

discussed that we are partners in

55:59

time. and crime travel, but I don't

56:01

think that we're actually sanctioned, if that makes

56:03

sense. But if there was a time police,

56:05

you know they would call it time crime.

56:08

Right. Well, too bad we already took that, so

56:10

they can't have it. Mariska

56:12

and Stable are... They get sex crimes.

56:15

We get time crimes. Yeah, but also,

56:17

like, the police wouldn't come up with

56:19

time crimes. They're not gonna rhyme. That's

56:21

too fun and jovial for

56:23

them. They might to try to

56:25

placate people that usually wouldn't bat

56:27

an eye towards them. I don't

56:30

know. Because if I heard that

56:32

the police came out with a new department called the time

56:34

crime, I would have to say, man,

56:36

I gotta finally, for once, hand it to them.

56:38

I don't know. I gotta give it to them. Time

56:40

crime is pretty cool. I think they're gonna have some

56:42

really generic name that no one would ever guess, because

56:45

it's so boring that you would never suspect. Maybe...

56:49

And then people would protest and say, time

56:51

to rename yourself. You

56:54

would probably... You might do that, actually. It'd be

56:56

a one-man protest. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

56:59

okay, they ask him to come with him. They

57:01

have a couple questions. And

57:05

so they're at the station, and they're taking

57:07

his vitals and basically doing a whole evaluation.

57:09

They ask him again if he was doing

57:11

drugs or drinking, and at this point, he's

57:13

very frustrated and asked if he's being arrested,

57:15

because if not, he wants to leave. Yeah,

57:17

he's not working. So

57:19

the head honcho comes in and says, do you know

57:21

what day it is today? What? And

57:24

he says, Wednesday. And the cop says,

57:27

are you sure? And my friend pulls out his

57:29

phone and says, see, Wednesday. And

57:32

the cop pulled out his phone and

57:34

said, no, it's Saturday. He

57:38

was like, how is it Saturday when I

57:40

just drove all night to get here? My

57:42

phone says it's Wednesday. No, this is a

57:44

trick. You guys are playing with me. And

57:46

the cop said, no, your family reported you

57:48

missing on Wednesday. Oh,

57:51

shit. So that's why they're wondering if

57:53

he's on drugs, like if he's been

57:55

on a bender or something. They haven't

57:57

heard from you since Tuesday. missing

58:00

for four days and thought he just drove

58:02

overnight to Vegas. Oh, they say, so they

58:05

say he's free to go and he leaves confused as

58:07

fuck. He turns off his phone

58:09

and turns it back on and the date changed

58:12

to Saturday. All of

58:14

the sudden he gets a flood of calls, texts,

58:16

voicemails, everything. His family had been trying to reach

58:18

him for days and this is he, his phone

58:20

wasn't getting any signal, but people were trying to

58:22

reach him the whole time.

58:24

Oh God. He calls his probably

58:26

because he fucking said everything's normal and they went

58:28

to the column. They were like something terrible is

58:30

about to happen. All of

58:32

a sudden he gets a flood of photos. His

58:34

family has been trying to reach him for days.

58:36

He calls his dad and everyone is freaking the

58:38

fuck out. He tried explaining how he had only

58:40

been driving at night, but I swear something at

58:42

night that is unexplainable happened. A

58:45

glitch or abduction something he had, he

58:47

had driven that route many times before and had

58:49

seen UFOs at night and sent me videos of

58:52

them. I don't know. The whole thing is just

58:54

creepy as fuck. He's told me many more stories

58:56

of his truck driving adventures, but that's a

58:58

story for another day. Let's just

59:00

say it's spooky on the West coast. Have

59:02

a good day. Wow.

59:06

Wow. Wow. To

59:09

miss, to suddenly just

59:11

miss be missing days.

59:14

That's incredible. I,

59:17

and it's not like, Oh,

59:19

maybe I, maybe I had

59:21

like, what's it like highway hypnosis or

59:23

something where you kind of get like, maybe

59:26

I just ignored the hours of the sun

59:28

rising or something. Maybe I pulled over.

59:30

I thought I took a shorter nap than I

59:32

or a longer shorter nap than I did. And

59:34

I woke up and it was still dark. And,

59:36

but like, this is like four fucking days. Like

59:39

you haven't eaten, you haven't gone to the bathroom.

59:41

That's the thing. And guess what else? You haven't

59:43

gotten gas and you haven't

59:45

taken your foot off the fucking pedal.

59:47

Yeah. So like, what happened is going

59:49

on. Hmm. I

59:54

don't know. The fact

59:59

that he didn't any cars for

1:00:01

a while? Yeah, I

1:00:03

don't like that. You know what it feels like an

1:00:05

implanted memory. Like when they implant

1:00:07

a memory and then they forget a certain detail.

1:00:09

So like the aliens will implant like a memory

1:00:12

of driving but then they'll forget to add all

1:00:14

the other cars. So he's like, this

1:00:16

is weird. It's like the like the

1:00:18

untiny valley thing of life. Yeah, it's like this is what

1:00:20

you saw. Yeah. Like this is

1:00:22

close enough. It's like the stories that they tell

1:00:24

are sometimes the smashing legends tells where people who've

1:00:26

been abducted will wake up and like their their

1:00:28

shoes will be on the wrong seat. As if

1:00:30

somebody was like, yeah, this is this is where

1:00:33

this you want some ketchup

1:00:35

for your apple. Yeah, right. Like this goes here

1:00:37

and it's like why like, or like one guy

1:00:39

his socks, I think was Terry Lovelace, like his

1:00:41

socks were inside out and he's like, I would

1:00:43

never have like, put socks on inside. Just

1:00:46

like weird shit where you're like, what have

1:00:48

they been doing? And then they dressed me

1:00:50

wrong. Oh my god. This is so scary,

1:00:52

Vic. What the f? Well,

1:00:55

we got great birthday episode. I know. Well done.

1:00:57

But we've got one more. And I need to

1:00:59

do this every month because this is great. They're

1:01:02

always great. But I like when they're just

1:01:04

pandering just when these emails are just for us.

1:01:07

I crept on the subject line of the

1:01:09

last one. It's like it. I haven't seen

1:01:12

it yet. Okay. The

1:01:14

vanishing onion and a glitch in

1:01:17

the matrix. Okay, I'm not already

1:01:19

this is this is from Matilda she her

1:01:22

and it says Hi, I'm Christine even anyone

1:01:24

else who may read this email. I absolutely

1:01:26

love the podcast. It took me a while

1:01:28

to start listening because I don't drink and

1:01:30

thought you'd have a lot of content about

1:01:32

drinking. Yeah, little fair. No, little

1:01:34

do we know. And just

1:01:37

the milkshake connoisseur that draws

1:01:39

everyone in throws all the non drinkers in. Let's

1:01:43

see. I thought you have a lot of content about drinking.

1:01:45

Imagine my surprise when I finally caved in the dark days

1:01:47

of 2020. I love that we had to break

1:01:50

you to get you to listen to our show.

1:01:52

Yeah, we had we had we set up the

1:01:54

pandemic. Yeah, we said the perfect context for

1:01:56

you to fall in love with us. Isn't

1:01:58

that romantic? Finally

1:02:00

caved in the dark days of 2020 only

1:02:02

to discover that M was drinking milkshakes I

1:02:04

have loved the podcast ever since CM and

1:02:07

I even subscribed to the patreon. Oh, that's nice

1:02:09

So I listened to the after chats dark hours,

1:02:11

whatever Christine has named them this week Man,

1:02:14

I feel like Matilda knows more about me than I know by

1:02:16

myself I could continue singing

1:02:18

your praises but let's get on with my story when

1:02:20

I was a kid My dad had a job where

1:02:22

he worked 7 a.m. To 3 p.m.

1:02:25

While my mom worked a more traditional 9

1:02:27

to 5 plus traffic Therefore

1:02:29

every weekday my dad cooked dinner. I loved

1:02:31

being in the kitchen with my dad He would always

1:02:33

explain what he was doing and we'd paste along the

1:02:36

way It was one of my true

1:02:38

happy places One night when we

1:02:40

were cooking dinner My dad grabbed an onion out of the

1:02:42

fridge as he went to put it on the counter He

1:02:44

dropped it I saw this out of

1:02:46

the corner of my eye as I was setting the table

1:02:48

and I heard the thud as the onion hit the ground

1:02:52

Except when he went to pick up the onion. He

1:02:54

couldn't find it We started

1:02:56

looking everywhere just glancing around at first then

1:02:58

down in our hands and knees looking under

1:03:00

things between the fridge and the wall Even

1:03:03

looking in the hallway in case it rolled out of

1:03:05

the kitchen Eventually, he just grabbed another

1:03:07

onion from the fridge and said I guess we'll find it

1:03:09

when it starts to smell He

1:03:12

never did that onion vanished

1:03:14

from our kitchen floor into another

1:03:16

dimension More than once my

1:03:18

dad told me that he was glad I had witnessed it

1:03:20

too or else he would have thought he was losing his

1:03:22

mind That alone is

1:03:24

strange enough. However, there's more to the story 12

1:03:26

years later I moved states for

1:03:28

grad school My parents and I drove in

1:03:30

two separate cars over the course of two

1:03:32

days to my new apartment I had rented

1:03:34

sight unseen side note It thankfully

1:03:36

ended up being a great apartment with my

1:03:38

only complaint being a neighbor who loudly sang

1:03:40

circle of life from the Lion King Every

1:03:43

single morning in the shower for the two

1:03:45

years that I lived there. I

1:03:47

would get them evicted. I Feel

1:03:50

like I would the morning that it's quiet.

1:03:52

I would wake up and be like I Needed

1:03:55

it until the building. I'm one stud. There's

1:03:57

a story here. Yeah I

1:04:00

don't want to get involved. Before

1:04:03

we began unloading, we explored the apartment.

1:04:05

It was left empty and super clean.

1:04:07

Except when my dad opened the coat

1:04:09

closet and called me over. There,

1:04:12

in the middle of the empty

1:04:14

closet, was an onion. Ugh!

1:04:17

Are you kidding with me right now? But wait, did you

1:04:19

watch it maybe fall in love by the rocks? Was

1:04:22

it smoking a cigarette and looking with eyes

1:04:25

that just spoke of warmth? With a smile

1:04:27

that makes you feel safe and a red

1:04:29

sweatshirt? No, we're just like

1:04:31

shitting all over. And

1:04:33

then the onion kind of turned around because you saw

1:04:35

a little girl walk by. And then you got married

1:04:38

but you still haven't told him about it? When

1:04:40

will you tell the onion the story? The

1:04:43

story of you. Oh,

1:04:45

the story of us is so beautiful. Come on.

1:04:48

Okay, let's see. Can you believe

1:04:50

though, your dad's moving into your, you into your apartment years

1:04:52

later? Which by the way, sounds like such a...

1:04:56

It sounds like such a pivotal moment. Like you're

1:04:59

a kid, you're cooking together in the kitchen. Is

1:05:01

there like your daddy, daughter days,

1:05:03

you know? You get these memories and

1:05:05

then like something weird happens. You're

1:05:07

like, oh, that's odd. And then like a decade

1:05:10

later, he's moving you out into your own home

1:05:12

in your own kitchen. And

1:05:14

there's the fucking onion. Oh my God. What

1:05:17

a beautiful story. Let's

1:05:19

see. It was an onion, the same type we

1:05:21

had lost all those years before. My

1:05:23

dad and I exchanged a look and could not believe what we were

1:05:25

seeing. Just like we didn't know where the

1:05:27

onion went, we did not know where this onion came from.

1:05:30

But I like to believe it was some crazy glitch in

1:05:32

the matrix and that onion came back to us. And

1:05:35

because I know you are the type to like closure, no,

1:05:37

we... Thank you. I was wondering this.

1:05:39

We did not eat or cook with that onion. We

1:05:42

kept it on the counter for a couple days and then eventually threw it out. Are

1:05:45

you serious? I would have put that thing in a safe place. Really?

1:05:48

When I glue it to a golf

1:05:50

ball case and show it around

1:05:52

the country and name it lemon? I would give

1:05:55

it a kiss. And I would say, you're the

1:05:57

symbolism of my family love. Yeah, I would adopt

1:05:59

it. my own home. What's

1:06:02

that fucking Linda Belcher song? If

1:06:04

you're not real, how come I

1:06:06

feel this way? Like that. This

1:06:10

sounds like just the beginning of

1:06:12

Christine and Lemon, but in another

1:06:14

alternate realm. Mental illness. But I

1:06:17

do wonder if, um, if

1:06:19

maybe, okay, wait, there's another paragraph that I want to read real

1:06:21

quick before I say this next part. This is the end of

1:06:23

it. It says, my dad passed

1:06:25

in 2021. First of all, I'm so sorry.

1:06:27

And I miss him every single day. We

1:06:30

had so many kitchen adventures, but this one

1:06:32

was the strangest. Now I cook

1:06:34

with my kids and I hope that

1:06:36

we are making great memories too. Thanks

1:06:39

for everything Matilda, she, her Capricorn tea

1:06:41

milkshake Matilda. This is my thought. Like

1:06:44

maybe this was your

1:06:46

dad. Like

1:06:50

after, okay, hear me, hear me out. That did not

1:06:52

land. Okay. Hey,

1:06:54

is this thing on? Wait,

1:06:57

like, did he, did he die after they found

1:06:59

the onion? Sorry. That's sorry. Yes. To clarify, like

1:07:01

maybe in, in the afterlife, your dad was like,

1:07:03

oh, when we had that weird onion thing, like

1:07:05

that was such a memorable thing. Like, Hey, I

1:07:07

know I'll put the onion for them.

1:07:10

No, but no, I don't, I mean,

1:07:12

Oh, Oh, I see where you're, I

1:07:14

see, I see. I see it later.

1:07:16

Like from the future. Like future ghost

1:07:18

him. Yes. Created this ruse. So

1:07:20

while they were together, they could have this bond. Well,

1:07:23

not even created the first thing. Maybe maybe

1:07:25

just like future, future him, like put a

1:07:27

little onion as like a symbol. Like maybe

1:07:30

now Matilda, after you listen to this, maybe

1:07:32

you'll walk outside and there'll just like be

1:07:34

an onion on the sidewalk. You know, that

1:07:36

would be lovely. Like, like how people, like

1:07:39

how people in the afterlife, like

1:07:41

are like, oh, pennies or butterflies or

1:07:43

something, your dad's an onion. What if

1:07:45

he's a big stinky onion? No, he's

1:07:47

just like Shrek, that big ogre. He's

1:07:50

got a lot of layers. Yeah. Yes. And no, I

1:07:52

think that's such a cool sign, especially like, if it

1:07:54

is an onion, I would be curious Matilda, if you

1:07:56

first of all believe in, you know, signs and things

1:07:59

like that, which if you listen to this podcast

1:08:01

probably, but yeah,

1:08:04

if you if you could let me know, I'm curious

1:08:06

if you ever like see onion, like maybe you see

1:08:08

onions, or maybe that's like your little inside joke with

1:08:10

your dad. Yeah, my question is, if

1:08:12

you're a tattoo girly, I have a hunch you

1:08:15

have somewhere on you. And if

1:08:17

not, this is us requesting that

1:08:19

please, I wish I had something so beautiful

1:08:21

and symbolic, I could tattoo it myself, you

1:08:23

know, that's a beautiful, a

1:08:25

beautiful story. I mean, and like, Christine's gonna one

1:08:27

day have a tattoo of a lemon. So you two

1:08:30

will bond in that way. Ah,

1:08:33

I can't. Well, thank you, everyone. This was

1:08:35

like, just like such a good set of

1:08:37

stories. And thank you, Eva, for finding them.

1:08:40

Thank you for curating them and pick them

1:08:42

out for us. This was, we haven't even

1:08:44

actually celebrated our real birthday yet. But I

1:08:46

already know I

1:08:48

this kick started it, I feel like I'm in the

1:08:50

zone. I'm ready to party. I'm ready to celebrate that

1:08:53

I wasn't in the zone. Now I'm like, hell yeah,

1:08:55

this is a great time. I've been in the zone.

1:08:57

And now we're both there. And now our energy is

1:08:59

match. Thank you for waiting for me. I'm so happy

1:09:01

to be here. We are gonna go celebrate

1:09:04

our birthdays now. And

1:09:07

you know what, I give all of you permission

1:09:09

to celebrate right along with us wherever you are. So if

1:09:11

you want to send us a present cake, you go for

1:09:13

it. If you want to eat up, not

1:09:16

eat a present and buy some cake, wait, if you want

1:09:18

to hang on. In honor of

1:09:20

other people having a birthday that wishes to be celebrated

1:09:22

everywhere. If you would like to buy yourself a present

1:09:24

and you needed a reason today's the day and if

1:09:27

you'd like to eat some cake and you need a

1:09:29

reason today's the day. So happy

1:09:32

birthday to all of us, but especially

1:09:34

you Christine. Oh, especially you M. And

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