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affairs. So
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I watched the trailer for somebody
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I used to. Now I immediately
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side of a time in my
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life as probably around Twenty Four
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Twenty five when I decided to
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make a pro active choice towards
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my inclination to jealousy. Like we're
1:04
in an industry where we're competing
1:06
with our dear friends. and it's
1:08
not Is though you can calculate
1:10
it like there's a time trial.
1:12
Like an athlete, you're left with
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this inexplicable fog of why you
1:17
didn't get the role. Yes, you
1:19
know and yet your friend did. And
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I was also really intimidated by beautiful
1:23
people. When I first moved to Los
1:25
Angeles I was like this town. Is
1:28
beautiful. You had some of these
1:30
people look like they're on T V.
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So as I watched your trailer,
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that idea came sort of immediately.
1:37
Sort of a gut reaction. but
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the idea of your nemesis becoming
1:41
somebody you love. I think that
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there's a lot of themes that
1:46
we're juggling in this movie and
1:48
in a one of them starts
1:50
more with the one that Got
1:52
Away Right who's played by Jay
1:54
Alice and I think kind of
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trying to dismantle this idea when
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I was. Younger my choice. These I
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was a real on again off again gal
2:02
with the guys I was dating. oh what
2:04
do you mean like we would break up
2:06
and get back together And break up and
2:08
get back together. And it's like I didn't
2:11
know how to trust my own instincts for
2:13
the people that I shouldn't be with any.
2:15
With the pattern, you know I watched my
2:17
mom's do it. My mom would often had
2:19
a break up with a guy and then
2:21
tell my sister and I all the reasons
2:23
why he was the worst person in the
2:25
world and then she'd get back together with
2:27
them a month later which is very confusing
2:30
for everybody involved. And for my high school
2:32
college twenties I had that same pattern of
2:34
not trusting. I would be like ah, a
2:36
do not want to be with this person,
2:38
a break up with them and then the
2:40
second I felt lonely, say it was like
2:42
I was the problem. I was the reason
2:44
that it didn't work out. She's the answer
2:47
to everything. That's why I'm unhappy. You know,
2:49
it wasn't until I was older that I
2:51
started to think war is. start with you
2:53
and get your shit street with you. It's
2:55
other prisoners and on. Lock this stuff and
2:57
a lot of the time. certainly people do.
2:59
Have. Stories where they get back together with someone
3:01
that the dated a while ago and it's
3:03
like the. Answer to everything but I just
3:06
got this idea of the one that got.
3:08
Away is really interesting to me. Because I
3:10
also think there's a reason why you
3:12
break up with people and like you.
3:14
We think that those reasons ever just
3:17
actually disappear and whatnot. So then the
3:19
other thing we're talking about right is
3:21
that my character learn set. This guy
3:23
is getting married this weekend. She felt
3:25
like they have this amazing connection and
3:27
maybe he's the answer to everything. And
3:29
then she learned she's getting married that
3:32
weekend and she meets the girl and
3:34
of course she wants to hate her
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And she does That mean she does
3:38
to try and hard to. But
3:40
certainly there's that element. I mean
3:42
like the way that you talk
3:44
about yourself. I think wanting to
3:47
combat those feelings of jealousy by
3:49
like having genuinely positive feelings for
3:51
another person is so wonderful and
3:53
generous and a great eat those
3:55
and like I'm in a try
3:57
that. And I. I
4:00
do something similar to new whole
4:02
really do why. I also think
4:04
there's something with these characters and
4:06
in life. That. To things
4:09
can be true right? And
4:11
fascinated by relationship. Between.
4:13
Women because they can just take
4:15
so many forms and like especially.
4:18
Recently and my work I feel like
4:20
it's just something. That I'm like so
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into is this idea that like shop
4:24
women in your life I feel like
4:26
I will feel every single emotion and
4:29
sometimes also am feeling two different conflicting
4:31
emotions of the same time or on
4:33
even confused about i'm so proud of
4:35
my friend or am I jealous or
4:37
to I love her or do I
4:39
want to fuck her or do I
4:42
hate her. Issue by
4:44
enemies? Or do I just want to be
4:46
her slaves? You know I'm so in awe
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of her. A my Inspired by her so.
4:51
Like him this movie. there's elements of that
4:53
of kind of seeing a person who consider
4:55
know the circumstances. You feel like you want
4:57
to jump to that conclusion of like this
4:59
is my enemy and then seeing all of
5:02
this connective tissue of over sort of the
5:04
same and wow. you really remind me of
5:06
who I was when I was younger and
5:08
or any of those things still a part
5:10
of me, you know, which is kind of.
5:12
The other thing we're exploring in this movie
5:15
is like going back to your hometown. What
5:17
does that even make you think about yourself
5:19
right when you see people still. Used to
5:21
hang out with in high school and like that
5:23
he the night are so different. In this
5:25
respect because. Daves is still really
5:27
close with like this big group of
5:30
guys and gals that he went to
5:32
middle school and high school with, and
5:34
he stayed friends with them now for
5:36
twenty years or whatever and. I.
5:39
Have never been that way. I mean
5:41
I have a cheap one, maybe one
5:43
from each era. Yeah and I don't
5:45
think it's like I'm like I got
5:47
to reinvent myself. You guys are old
5:50
news, but I do think there is
5:52
why. Just like without chapter my life
5:54
is over and now I'm doing it
5:56
like what's this place That a be?
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Who am I? Now it's not appointed.
6:00
I don't want to be associated with
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us anymore to them different person. but
6:04
it is. Oh am I become a
6:06
different person when I know what's this
6:08
for these people that are in my
6:10
life now? Well I want to catch
6:12
a little bit on the romanticization as
6:14
how we glorify and magnify our past.
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Yeah ensue. Either like the positive or
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the negative like the idea of the
6:21
one that got away is sort of
6:23
do would usher could us and we
6:25
are callers. We hear a lot of
6:27
that like I had this opportunity and
6:29
I think it's too simplistic. Yeah, you
6:31
know, like us, he was so great.
6:33
He was so great. Yeah and I
6:36
don't know what I did or like
6:38
my first boyfriend that I felt like
6:40
I was madly in love with. He
6:43
was so handsome, Since Air
6:45
Force. And
6:47
I felt so unattractive so I
6:49
couldn't believe it. And after he
6:51
broke up with me or first
6:53
week a college with it was
6:55
devastating. I remember reading my diary
6:58
like. A while later and
7:00
I. Wrote like I P
7:02
is laughter. Is
7:05
long or six fingers? Sort of
7:07
annoying. These. And
7:09
that was so helpful because at that
7:11
point it was like on aggregate Married.
7:14
I have my promise. Race is totally.
7:16
I mean there's a lot of women
7:18
in my life, food not so much
7:21
Now as I get older it's nice
7:23
that I think that people are learning
7:25
to break these habits. but I have
7:28
had friends or family members who yeah
7:30
they develop this sort of amnesia after
7:32
the fact. Yeah, your mom not clarify
7:34
like well what he does have these
7:37
other qualities that I just love. Definitely
7:39
definitely Will and my mom because of
7:41
her own past and childhood traumas and
7:44
other things going on. It's a thing
7:46
where the hindsight becomes will. It must
7:48
have been my fault whereas the truth
7:51
is that in the moment it was
7:53
for decision. I'd want to be with this person.
7:55
They're not right for me. They don't make me feel
7:57
good. You know I don't like myself when I'm around
7:59
them? Whatever. Isn't it is? A month later
8:01
I'm lonely. Now I'm reflecting on it and
8:03
going know I was wrong with me. I
8:06
was bad. I must have turned him off.
8:08
I did this. Why would I let him
8:10
go? There will never be anyone else as
8:12
good as him. No one will love me.
8:14
You know it's like the swings range can
8:17
go to the furthest extreme. right? An unlivable.
8:19
No one will ever want to be with
8:21
me. And by the way, I've had boyfriends
8:23
who said that. Kinda sucks to me. When
8:25
I would try to break up with them. No one will ever love
8:28
you. Oh, I'm the only person no one will
8:30
want to to you without make up on your
8:32
face off. No one knows who you really are
8:34
except for me. I feel this because I've experienced
8:37
a To and I got back with that. I
8:39
get it. I guess I'm married that guy. Is
8:41
such. Now is the first. So what's. Your to
8:44
live and learn. Your to finally go. Wait a
8:46
minute. I didn't do this with friends who say
8:48
they go out with a person. One. And.
8:50
They get back from the day and they're like
8:53
I did not like him because of this, this
8:55
this and that and then a few days go
8:57
by in there like well he never called so
8:59
I guess he know the want to be
9:01
with as I'm a piece of shit like we
9:04
we put. you don't wanna date him again member
9:06
you said you don't want to date him and
9:08
I do get that like for yeah but
9:10
I don't want to be the person that's rejected.
9:12
I want to be the reject or not
9:14
the reject. The of course you know even if
9:17
you're like Idaho to be with a person is
9:19
the ones that don't want me. Oh completely. Completely.
9:22
I've been on truly like maybe two
9:24
or three days the my life and
9:26
of as during college and I have
9:28
no idea what the people were about.
9:31
Because I was so self absorbed in getting them
9:33
to like me. Or things as we really
9:35
or the only that performance art I
9:37
was just gonna say really performing the
9:39
date I think I used to see
9:42
a great deal. yeah I bet I
9:44
bet you weren't I mean of of
9:46
it's gonna be asked about you. tell
9:48
me everything was do you want to do with
9:50
eat what you want to eat like strictly want
9:52
to drink would do everything can be so great
9:54
isn't it just took me way too long since
9:56
even ask myself whether i like to person or
9:58
not the i didn't even how to do
10:01
that. Eight days in you're like, oh
10:03
yeah yeah this guy's kind of a
10:05
shithead. I
10:08
didn't notice that. He's funny but
10:10
he's just mean. He is funny
10:13
but he's mean to everybody including me.
10:15
Yeah. That's so weird. So
10:18
tell me about your character in Somebody
10:20
I Used to Know. Ally
10:22
is a producer but what we
10:24
come to learn essentially is that
10:27
she's really artistic right she went
10:29
to school for film and used
10:31
to be really into documentary filmmaking
10:34
and now she is a producer
10:36
on like a dessert reality show
10:38
and she's sort of too self-serious
10:41
about it. You know it's kind
10:43
of like she wanted to be
10:45
this like Oscar-winning doc filmmaker. She's
10:48
making this kind of competition reality
10:50
show but trying to make everybody
10:52
be so serious about it in
10:54
a way that's like weird.
10:56
Killing the fun to an end. Killing
10:59
the fun and she doesn't have
11:01
a lot of people in her life because
11:03
she's that classic you know rom-com workaholic gal
11:05
who's like very focused on doing the thing
11:07
and kind of I think what we wanted
11:10
to do is I mean first of all
11:12
let me say that we are not
11:14
trying to disparage dessert competition shows. I
11:16
devour them. I love them. Oh I
11:18
think you're honoring them. We love
11:20
them but I think it's kind of this
11:23
type of person and especially I mean in
11:25
any industry I would imagine but like speaking
11:27
to my own because I work in an
11:29
industry that is sort of like under the
11:31
guise of doing things for art but also
11:33
it's commerce and we learn as women to
11:36
lean in to stuff so sometimes you can
11:38
find yourself in a place that's very different
11:40
than where you accepted within your own industry
11:42
because you've been like I should just lean
11:44
into the direction that they want me to
11:46
go and sometimes it's a good
11:48
thing you know sometimes I think like just do
11:51
this job take this risk who knows maybe it
11:53
doesn't seem like you're saying but you love it
11:55
like you love performing do it in any capacity
11:57
or do you end up really far from where
12:00
you wanted to be and you go
12:02
like, wow, it was like a million
12:04
little compromises that led me somewhere else.
12:06
You're forced into a position where you
12:08
have to trust. Sure. Even with people
12:10
that you might not. Like
12:12
I always have this feeling of
12:14
like, I hope they use that
12:16
take. Yeah. But never being able
12:18
to have the gumption to be like,
12:20
hey, hey, what about that one? Yes,
12:23
totally. On
12:25
this note, will you tell us about a
12:28
workplace hardship? Oh,
12:31
well, I'm trying to think if I've
12:33
ever found myself on a job that
12:35
I really hated. And
12:37
it's honestly very seldom because I kind
12:40
of think even if I was just
12:42
starting out and I would take any
12:44
role, you know, and my first film
12:46
role was in a movie called Born
12:48
about a woman who's impregnated with a
12:50
demon fetus that's like ripping guys' penises
12:52
off. Oh my God. And you played
12:54
this character? Yes, I was impregnated with
12:57
demon fetus. What a great first role.
13:00
I'll have you know that there is a scene where
13:02
the demon fetus is possessing me
13:04
and speaking to me through me.
13:07
And I have a full argument
13:09
with myself as like myself and
13:11
the demon fetus. Oh my God.
13:13
It's literally like, please no,
13:16
don't do this. I'm
13:18
going to do it. It was like,
13:20
that's it. They were like, what's the special effects on
13:22
it? But they never did. It's just me being like,
13:25
you have to stop. I
13:27
will never stop. Like,
13:30
it's so crazy. But the point of the story is
13:32
I fucking loved working on that movie. I
13:34
mean, that was my first movie. I was
13:36
like, are you kidding? I'm on a movie
13:38
set. I'm the lead of this movie. I
13:41
get to do the craziest stuff. Like I
13:43
was aware that it wasn't high art per
13:45
se, but it was so fun and great.
13:47
Like I think what we're tapping to do
13:49
with this character is that she's not really
13:51
enjoying what she's doing because She's
13:54
sort of hanging onto it too tightly. And I
13:56
Also understand that too, where it's like, I'm this
13:58
type of person anyway. where, you know., What
14:00
I'm working on. I want it to be the best
14:02
version of that. I want to be the best version
14:04
of me when I'm doing it. I can really to
14:06
her that way Were soon as I think choose it's
14:09
like you're making a thin comedy and I'm like they
14:11
have to Still I look over my lines every time
14:13
I gotta go to be nice to see. drinking plenty
14:15
of water be getting the eight hours of sleep. Enjoy
14:17
this of you don't you for like white knuckle and
14:20
you could have fun and loosen up like it's okay.
14:22
It's rocket science, were not saving lives. Not to be
14:24
little. I think what we do is very important and
14:26
it's space for people to have escapism. but I'm just
14:28
saying that's a character through line. At an
14:30
answer a question about a bad job
14:33
know you divorce. I would have specific
14:35
answers for that because I think I've
14:37
been cast as what I deem as
14:39
like the reactor sir, like the indicator
14:42
to the audience. Of how you're supposed
14:44
to see I like flights. What are you doing
14:46
now guy? Who's. Gases.
14:49
Know what I can think of? An experience.
14:52
I remember doing this in the movie one.
14:54
Which. Turned out totally fine. It
14:57
was the first time very
14:59
young filmmaker and that was
15:01
a really hard job because
15:03
I felt. Like. I just
15:05
had no trust for the director
15:07
so it felt super scary. To
15:09
me the whole thing and talk about
15:12
tightly wound I feel like I was
15:14
trying to almost direct. And for C
15:16
D. And do the all the other jobs
15:18
because I just didn't trust that this person was
15:20
gonna pull it off. Did you get back last
15:22
for that? I mean I feel emotional personal backlash
15:24
against myself because I wish I had been a
15:27
little kinder to the director. I know I was
15:29
really hard on than that. You know? I think
15:31
in my mind I could justify that the time
15:33
I've been. like also I should teach this person
15:36
and make them better at their job and you
15:38
gotta know that you should do this. But I
15:40
could have done it in a better way. I
15:42
saying I don't know. I think this is incredibly
15:45
strong. an impressive. I've never had. That kind
15:47
of guns and I'm just like
15:49
go with the Flow I guess
15:51
now of so this is my
15:53
name's probably lately I've been writing
15:55
and producing my own things because
15:57
than I do get to be
15:59
the person to be at the
16:01
take Athletic efficiency? yeah. Totally or
16:04
in this case is directed by
16:06
my husband. Advice? I trust. You, I
16:08
trust you. That's the best part. Honestly about working
16:10
with Dave is that we had the same. Sensibilities
16:13
the same taste level honestly she
16:15
has publicly said are very high
16:17
cheese level and she's so good
16:19
at what he does that I'm
16:21
just sorta like, oh, good enough
16:24
to think about that stuff at
16:26
all. Will you tell us if
16:28
you're comfortable about you and days?
16:30
Oh yeah, seven I met at
16:33
Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Where
16:35
were you in terms. Of being
16:37
receptive for a relationship is
16:40
the great question. I was
16:42
very single. I had been single
16:44
for almost a year and I
16:47
always refer to this year as
16:49
my drunkest year because hit come
16:51
out of not a good relationship.
16:54
With. A person who at the time
16:56
I found very control lane. Did you
16:58
break it off? Yes. But that guy
17:01
in I broke up got back together
17:03
like it was not a good relationship
17:05
for either of us. You know that.
17:08
Person was obviously not meant to be my present.
17:10
Things were always really hard, but I think that
17:12
was part of it that. Have me feeling
17:14
very controlled. So bad after we
17:16
broke up I spent. The next
17:18
year? Really out of control. Like
17:20
on purpose. You know? I think I
17:22
just wanted to drink all the drinks
17:24
and screw all the end. It's like
17:26
the who am I? I'm a wild
17:28
and fund. Which is probably. Right
17:30
when I met you. We're
17:33
doubling during that shoot. at the time
17:35
was having a lot of fun. I
17:37
had no desire to be in a
17:39
relationship. I remember saying to a friend,
17:41
i don't a boyfriend, I don't want a girl
17:44
from. Isn't a don't like hat and
17:46
I don't want plan. I don't want
17:48
anything in my life that I have
17:51
to take care of in any way.
17:53
Cut to the so I'm flying to
17:55
Mardi Gras with friends for like a
17:57
departure. It's Mardi Gras weekends we. Into
18:00
day that the airport. I'm with a
18:02
mutual friend of ours. The she's likely know
18:04
that I'm gonna go say hi, she talks to
18:06
him, she bites and to dinner with us and
18:08
we're just like sure. Whatever. Nothing at this point
18:11
is romantically crossing my mind at all. Then we
18:13
sets in New Orleans, we all go to dinner.
18:15
She actually said he couldn't come to dinner could
18:17
he had other plans? He lands his plans are
18:19
cancelled, needs is a dinner late were all sitting
18:21
around a big table i'm already kind of chip
18:23
see and my friend Jules the sitting next to
18:26
Dave and I get a text from her. I
18:28
checked my checks under the table and it says
18:30
like you should hook up with these tonight that
18:32
his office and I'm like. A good
18:34
run Yeah I like. Great
18:37
idea. And. Then she shows
18:39
days the taxes like what you think my
18:41
friend else and check out our little texts
18:43
exchange and he's like oh I'm into that
18:45
and she's like to know tell her that
18:47
I showed you. This text. So.
18:50
Then we get up to go to bathroom the in jewels and
18:52
she's like maybe you and dave and I was like i'm into
18:54
it but I'm Rob he's gonna be and to at. And.
18:56
She's like I showed him your text under the table
18:58
season. Do it. Is I do
19:00
not tell him that I told you
19:03
that I showed him. So we leave.
19:05
We both have a sexy secret like
19:07
it. that's the best feelings you when
19:09
someone's pulling off a great set up.
19:11
right? So now we both are like
19:13
I know you're in Sydney. This is
19:15
awesome. Jules is amazing. Jules is amazing.
19:17
Yes, you're losing. The next phase is
19:20
you know, need sauntering up to debut
19:22
with a beer full of Molly and
19:24
being like there's Malian this beer and
19:26
I think that we should share it
19:28
and have a great. Night and let
19:30
me tell you we the his sister and
19:32
my dad. That's incredible. We had agreed I
19:35
would a great weekend and then I left
19:37
him. my mighty grown ass had been wearing
19:39
all weekend with my phone number written on
19:41
it. When I left town for the weekend
19:43
he texted me a funny joke. Still even
19:45
over that weekend I was just like oh
19:48
my god this little Saudi This is what
19:50
a fun weekend I'm gonna have a great
19:52
and I left being like whatever that was
19:54
great and I landed in L A opened
19:56
up the sex from him and like my
19:58
stomach. Dropped and Isaac. Now.
20:01
I'm. Gonna fall in love with this
20:03
guy He said yeah and I
20:05
did. I think most of as
20:08
we approach relationships with their own
20:10
defenses yeah to protect ourselves. I
20:12
love it said he has like
20:14
an open enough hard to be
20:16
like I'm gonna make her last.
20:18
Let me tell you the best
20:20
thing about Dave is that she
20:22
just is who he is. She
20:24
doesn't play any games, he never
20:26
has. He's like a genuine kind
20:29
person. She really listens and talk
20:31
to people. Like from the very beginning
20:33
with she and I there was none of
20:35
that all sit at all like I would
20:37
have been into him regardless I'm sure. But
20:40
like it was so nice that she texted
20:42
me the saying that I texted my back
20:44
then he was like we should get on
20:46
the phone dummies or calling each other's Everything
20:49
was easy. He was not bringing baggage to
20:51
the table and it made me feel safe
20:53
and as to not really bring my baggage
20:56
either and just be open to the relationship.
20:58
It was so nice. What? I guess if
21:00
I was in your shoes. That slight
21:02
back to Los Angeles I would have
21:04
tortured myself. I would have been like
21:07
I love him, I love I love
21:09
and I can don't expect anything some
21:11
anybody. Ever again his the
21:13
speech. To like the place I was
21:16
in Re. I think this a lot
21:18
about acting Also. That
21:20
like you know the job that you really
21:22
want when you go in this reeking of
21:24
desperation of please give me this job It's
21:26
it's like terrible. You never get their jobs
21:28
and then you'll read something else and I
21:30
cannot write for this role at all. I
21:32
don't Hours go in and have fun and
21:34
you always gets apart and it's like not
21:36
to diminish they have to being like a
21:38
role that I felt like he met me
21:40
at this moment in my life. Rose I
21:42
am not try to be in a relationship.
21:44
Also remember telling him on our second
21:46
night together in New Orleans out at
21:48
drinks with everybody and somebody said something
21:51
like this guy wants to get married
21:53
at by the time he's thirty or
21:55
something and I was like oh my
21:57
god well I don't want to get
21:59
married ever. So I can just be the gal
22:01
you have sex with until you meet the gal that you're
22:03
going to marry. Like, but meant it
22:05
genuinely. What was right? Trying to play the game
22:07
of like, I'm a cool girl. I don't even
22:10
care. I was like at a moment in my
22:12
life where I was like, whoa, I don't want
22:14
to be that person. So let's just have fun.
22:16
I don't care at all. And then as soon
22:19
as I started to care, he was just right
22:21
there with me. I never felt with Dave like,
22:23
oh, I should wait a day before I text
22:25
him back. Do you know what I mean? Yes.
22:27
What a great origin that you were in that
22:30
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23:41
Hi. How are
23:43
you? Good. How are you? Great.
23:46
Matthew, you're here with Allison. She's
23:48
amazing. She's a dear friend of mine.
23:50
And I can't thank you
23:52
enough for your letter. Will you tell us what's going on?
23:55
Yeah. And it's really nice to meet both of
23:57
you. This is really cool. Thank you. Nice to
23:59
meet you. So the
24:02
last year in my dating life has
24:04
been kind of like a whirlwind in
24:06
a good way, I think, like lots
24:08
of new experiences. And I kind of
24:11
want to figure out where I'm at
24:13
now and what I want to do
24:15
in the future. So last year, I
24:17
like had my first serious girlfriend and
24:20
fell in love. Did you guys meet
24:22
during the pandemic? More near the end
24:24
of the pandemic, like last March. I
24:26
mean, we met a year before that.
24:28
Was it in a friend circle? Yeah,
24:31
we worked together for a little bit. Matthew,
24:33
how old are you? I'm 25. It's
24:35
a perfect time for a first serious
24:37
girlfriend. Yes. Yeah. The first time I
24:39
met her, we were going to like
24:41
a work dinner with a bunch of
24:43
the new cohort. And she was one
24:45
of them. And we started talking and
24:47
I had a crush pretty immediately on
24:49
this girl. But also in that first
24:51
conversation, she let me know she had
24:54
a boyfriend. Like it came up in conversation. A
24:56
normal way. Not like you were like, hey, nice to
24:58
meet you. And she was like, I have a boyfriend. And
25:02
so we just became friends, you know, work friends.
25:04
That was in the fall. And then in the
25:07
winter, she ended up dropping the program
25:10
and ended up going to like another
25:12
city for a couple months and then
25:15
ended up breaking up with her
25:17
boyfriend. So she came back to
25:19
our city just to get her
25:21
stuff back from her boyfriend's apartment.
25:23
And then I was like, well, this is
25:26
my like last chance to get to see
25:28
her. Like everything started on that trip. Did
25:30
she reach out to you like text you,
25:32
hey, I'm coming back to town. So we
25:34
were texting each other back and forth a
25:36
little bit while she was away and before
25:38
she came back. And I was just like,
25:40
oh, we should hang out and you should
25:42
see all like the old people from work.
25:45
And we hung out a lot those days.
25:47
And then like I ended up having like
25:49
a party over at my place so everybody
25:51
could be together. And then that's kind of
25:53
when things got more serious. And we hung
25:55
out the rest of our trip here. I
25:58
think it's really amazing. that
26:00
you weren't like heavy-handed with the
26:02
flirtation. You know what I mean?
26:04
That you guys were texting or
26:06
whatever, but that you presented yourself,
26:09
like you weren't pushing it too
26:11
hard. Like that's fairly
26:13
commendable. Thanks. Don't you think,
26:15
Allison? Definitely, yeah. It sounds like you really gave
26:17
her space to do
26:19
the things that she was doing in her
26:21
life for her. And that's so nice. Not
26:23
just like a, what's up. Yeah.
26:28
But then what happened? Yeah, so then,
26:31
at the end of this trip for her to
26:34
get all her stuff, because she decided to go
26:36
move to this new city. And
26:38
at the end of this trip, I was like really sad,
26:40
because I was like, oh, I wish you were just here.
26:43
And I talked it over with like my roommate
26:45
too. And I was like, I probably just have
26:47
to like, make sure this doesn't keep going or
26:49
something, but I really wanted it to. And I
26:52
basically let her know this on like the last
26:54
night she was in town. I let her know
26:56
both things, that I wanted this to work out,
26:58
but it also just makes sense. Dwee, had you
27:01
guys been intimate or like kissed? Yes, we had.
27:03
How long was this period of time that she
27:05
was like back in the same city as you?
27:07
It was a week long. Okay, but it was
27:09
a week and you guys were hanging out like
27:12
every night. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's like a
27:14
magical week, isn't it? Yeah, it was nice.
27:16
And then she's moving to a different city.
27:18
Yes. And does she have a job already
27:20
in this city? Like how set up is she? She does
27:22
have a job, but it was remote. And
27:24
she already has like an apartment in the
27:26
new place and like signed a lease and
27:28
everything. Oh, okay. So there was like, oh,
27:31
you're remote. I don't know, we could make
27:33
this work. So I let her know both
27:35
sides. I was like, we should probably like
27:37
not. And then she was like, oh, maybe
27:39
it could work out. I don't know. And
27:41
so we tried to make it work and
27:43
do little trips and stuff is what we
27:45
kind of landed on. We weren't like official
27:47
or exclusive yet, but our cities are close
27:49
enough. Let's just see where this goes. Who
27:51
sort of dictated those terms? I mean,
27:53
it sounds reasonable enough, but it also
27:56
sounds painful. Yeah. We
27:58
know a long distance relationship. Like
28:00
nobody's business for read, I think we've
28:02
landed on the terms together of in
28:05
I was excited. So it's
28:07
kind of working as you doing is sets
28:09
you haven't put too much pressure on your
28:11
relationship by dictating. Times Media exclusives. Yeah
28:13
yeah and then where does it all
28:16
blow up? So then on a trip
28:18
that I said to her city. And.
28:20
I think this is partly just because it's
28:23
my first serious relationship like this is where
28:25
I then asked her to be mined girlfriend
28:27
on this trip to her. So. I
28:29
guess we're really like boyfriend girlfriend for a
28:31
pretty short time like a month. Basically us
28:33
or the. Exclusive on that trip and
28:36
she comes to see you and your
28:38
exclusive sell. Out of here and then
28:40
a few weeks later. That's when. We.
28:42
End up breaking it off just because
28:45
the long distances to stand here. She
28:47
said the whole point of moving to
28:49
this new city was she did not
28:51
like the city that I'm in right
28:53
now and she didn't find are people
28:55
here and she like loves the new
28:58
city and like sounds a great roommates,
29:00
great friends and stuff. And
29:02
so she said She just like
29:04
wanted to have that and be
29:06
one hundred percent in that new
29:08
place and not has like this
29:10
long distance. Let's see each defense.
29:12
She's twenty three and. Say okay and
29:14
so were you guys that now it was her decision
29:16
to planet and things that as it's too hard to
29:18
keep going back to this city where she doesn't have
29:21
people either the knew who she. Really cares about,
29:23
but she's like china to her new thing.
29:25
And how long though, is that? This was
29:27
I think ten men may or
29:29
June. So where we are now? It's like
29:31
you're still having feelings for her. I was
29:34
for a while like the breakup was
29:36
by tough. Yeah, it's your
29:38
first I'd I'd say I'm glad there.
29:40
And are you guys still in touch?
29:43
Like since may you guys still talk
29:45
and such. Yeah we just texted here
29:47
in there and this is partly were like
29:49
a transition is coming I think at least
29:52
now cause I did see her in December
29:54
actually because of that cousins in this city
29:56
that she lives in twos I was just
29:58
visiting them for her the trip or something
30:00
and got in touch with their and saw
30:03
her see you texted her like him in
30:05
town the Alameda yeah and how is that?
30:07
It was good. I think it was necessary
30:09
because I think before that I was like
30:11
oh maybe something in the future like some
30:14
how later down the road the sole still
30:16
work out but she is like seeing somebody
30:18
else right now so I think I was
30:20
like the nail on the costs and where
30:22
it's just like okay time to move on.
30:25
A real. I mean Matthew, It
30:27
sounds honestly like not a
30:29
terrible first heartbreak, yes situation.
30:31
You know, because it sounds
30:34
like she cared about you
30:36
a lives. And if she
30:38
did stay living in the same city with
30:40
you then maybe you guys would. It's continued
30:42
to date and things like that, the both
30:44
still. Are quite young as a
30:47
and long distance is very
30:49
hard and. Will say that
30:51
two nights ago I really
30:53
watched said Justin Long Drew
30:55
Barrymore movie Going The Distance.
30:57
Us. All about
31:00
Matthew Sufi me. It's a
31:02
great six weeks together New
31:04
York and then they live
31:06
worlds apart. Know that. And
31:09
it's like, ultimately, specially when you're twenty
31:11
five, you wanna be in a relationship
31:13
with somebody that lives in the same
31:15
city as you move there. And now
31:18
this woman showed you that you have
31:20
the capacity to love someone, that it's
31:22
really fun to be in a more
31:25
committed relationship has been, and that like
31:27
love is this amazing, powerful thing and
31:29
I feel like it's one of those
31:31
breeds of said socks. And bit. But
31:34
at least it's not like things she turned
31:36
into a totally different person and settle these
31:38
horrible. Death to me? Yeah, yeah. I.
31:40
Think. That like at least you can walk
31:42
away being like wow. We had something that
31:44
was really great and I'm really lovable great
31:46
person and I would be excited to do
31:48
that again with someone who it will be
31:50
easier with because of our. Proximity? Yeah
31:53
yeah, I like that. And. Likely
31:55
hours and said about this experience
31:57
Silly new the you have. The
32:00
capacity to allows liberty.
32:02
You enjoy that experience.
32:04
As companionship, I get that.
32:07
So. I think that's wonderful.
32:09
Do. You have a lot of friends
32:12
that are like do you too
32:14
young or legs ma'am we're in
32:16
our twenties like I wonder what
32:18
pressure you're putting on yourself In
32:20
a wonders your question is about
32:22
how to achieve a long term
32:24
relationship. Again, teasing. That's what it
32:27
is. I'm under pressure. I think
32:29
it might be in a different
32:32
direction. Most of my friends are
32:34
in committed relationships. Oh yeah, That's.
32:36
An eye is either only speaks to
32:39
who you are, That's amazing. Yeah, that
32:41
makes a lot of sense. You had
32:43
such a warm sweet energy efficiency so
32:45
emotionally of all about Joe name is
32:47
that Banks? Costs are appreciative. Yeah,
32:50
so where are you at? Yeah so
32:52
the flip side the coin is
32:54
I have been trying dating apps
32:57
and did that for a little
32:59
bit and have just been like
33:01
also flirtatious with strangers. To tell
33:03
us about your dating app experience
33:06
with satellite it's okay, it's kind
33:08
of not is sparking chemistry as
33:10
like this first relationship or some
33:12
other people that I meet randomly.
33:15
I. Feel like I have more spark and more chemistry.
33:17
Is meeting people and person for the first time.
33:19
How many dates did she go on like
33:21
off of an ass I have never liked.
33:23
This is as for and world's. The I
33:26
know I was like Matthew my
33:28
own. Oh okay so that. That's
33:30
the dating app world. I
33:32
think in the past year only
33:34
one for more than a couple
33:37
dates and that was before autumn.
33:39
And. Then other people probably like Five
33:42
Six states something like that. so
33:44
like a handful, but not all
33:46
the time. Just ten a one
33:48
off. the when you meet them
33:50
in person, you're like oh, we
33:52
don't really have a connection. sorta.
33:54
Yeah, or maybe we did, but
33:56
it's not something to cultivate. Yeah,
33:58
write home about this incident. Those are
34:00
fun, but... I mean, hearing the way you talk about
34:02
it gives me hope for younger
34:04
generations to still attempt to
34:06
meet people in person because,
34:08
like, I agree with you. There's
34:11
something really nice about just chemistry with
34:13
a person, right? That you can't kind
34:15
of predict when that happens and it
34:17
could be a person you meet at
34:19
the supermarket or whatever. And
34:22
I feel like the thing with the apps
34:24
that I find so interesting is, like, people
34:26
can kind of be whoever they want to
34:29
be, right? Yeah. Everything online, it's
34:31
like, you could have a whole different persona and a
34:33
whole different life, but then on the apps, it's like,
34:35
but then I'm going to meet you in person. Like
34:37
when I hear about friends who will go out with
34:39
people whose photos look so different than the people look
34:41
in person, like, of course you want to put up,
34:44
like, the best photo of yourself. But
34:46
I also think it's, like, such a short game.
34:48
Totally. Yeah. It
34:50
feels like an audition. Right. Like,
34:53
will they find me attractive? It's
34:56
already set up as, like, a
34:58
self-absorbed process. Right. But
35:00
it's like, you're like, wouldn't you rather send someone
35:03
a picture of how you kind of actually look
35:05
so that when they meet you in person, they're
35:07
like, right, that's you. This is the person I
35:09
thought I was meeting versus, like, you're maybe going
35:11
to meet this model. Yeah. This
35:14
face-tuned, like, alien human that doesn't exist.
35:16
And then in person, you're like, sorry,
35:18
it's me. I would imagine that that's
35:20
a weird way to start off a date.
35:22
Yeah. Do you meet you a lot, Matthew, or
35:25
am I projecting? This happened maybe once.
35:27
Oh, good. It just feels cruel,
35:29
the whole thing. Yeah. At
35:32
some point, it's like people are clearly swiping
35:34
you or whatever happens in that world.
35:36
And then when you do meet,
35:38
all you're thinking about is, like, am I going
35:40
to disappoint this person? Not to
35:42
make it sound like I'm not also the
35:45
most vain person in the world, but, like,
35:47
I will say that the apps, because
35:49
you're just seeing pictures of people and
35:51
your first conversation is, like, Hi,
35:54
versus meeting in person. I Think about,
35:56
like, when I used to just be
35:58
dating, I could. Find someone
36:00
attractive based on so many other
36:02
factors than the way that they
36:05
looked. The yeah, when I just
36:07
had a run in with them
36:09
in person, I used to really
36:11
get crushes on some strange looking
36:13
people. Like and so attractive. You
36:15
know based on a number of
36:17
other factors are to be subsidized
36:19
like oh. It's such a stacked weird
36:22
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37:20
Are you in a large urban area
37:22
like? I wanna know? What's what's your
37:24
social exposure? How motivated are you? I'm
37:27
in a big city okay the social
37:29
aspect ago out pretty much every weekend
37:31
that sort of thing with sands and
37:33
and just hang out with people so
37:35
I don't think I'm to cooped up
37:37
which is nice. I think this
37:39
relationship is right around the corner.
37:41
It sounds like you're over. The ruff
37:43
parts of a heartbreak you not in
37:45
a place where your romanticizing her. i
37:48
think seem to have a really clear head
37:50
about it and like i do feel like
37:52
it's like you're so right for a relationship
37:54
after you get out of that first serious
37:56
one right to have it under your belt
37:58
and like you said you like I liked
38:00
it and my friends are kind of in
38:02
that mode too. And I also
38:04
think that Matthew, people your age
38:06
now are more apt to be
38:08
in serious relationships. In your letter
38:10
though, you do mention a hookup
38:12
on New Year's Eve. Is that
38:14
part of this equation? Will you
38:17
tell us about that? A little bit, yeah. So
38:19
I guess this is kind of just
38:21
like an example in the past year
38:23
how I've been on one side of
38:25
the spectrum and the other side, like
38:27
where it was just a very casual
38:29
hookup with no follow through on either
38:31
person's part. We had each other's numbers
38:33
and she told me to text her
38:35
afterwards. And I did and I
38:37
was actually pretty excited to see her again. And
38:40
then we said, oh, maybe we'll get together
38:43
again. Maybe not. And we tried to like
38:45
plan things. She was home for the holidays.
38:47
And so she was like going back relatively
38:50
quickly. And we ended up just
38:52
not seeing each other again. So there was like some
38:54
texting afterwards. Okay, how was your final
38:56
text exchange with this gal? Were you sort
38:58
of like presenting her with an actual like,
39:00
hey, wanna maybe go out this weekend? And
39:02
she was like, oh, I'm out of town
39:05
for the holidays. And then you were like,
39:07
how about next weekend? There was
39:09
actually like a very quick shoe
39:11
exchange. She took my roommate's shoes
39:13
on accident. And so
39:16
we had to like see each other.
39:18
Okay, that's very interesting to learn because
39:20
I feel like that's a really classic,
39:22
I wanna see you again. Yeah,
39:24
is your roommate a girl? No,
39:27
no, they just have the same boots. Let
39:29
me say, Ana, that like the first night
39:31
I met and hooked up with my husband,
39:33
I did steal his shirt when I left
39:35
the next day as a way to guarantee
39:37
that I would see him again to return
39:39
the shirt. But that's such a move. Like
39:42
I would not think that this is a person
39:44
that didn't wanna hang out again. Maybe. I
39:46
will say if she didn't necessarily wanna hang
39:48
out again, it's pretty classy to like actually
39:50
return the shoes. Yes, so that's
39:52
nice that she returned them. Yeah, the
39:54
shoe exchange was like not charged in
39:56
any way. I kinda
39:58
wonder too, most of your
40:01
really close friends are in serious
40:03
relationships, how frequently you
40:05
feel like the others. You guys
40:07
all go to Cabo together. Are you like the
40:09
dude in the single room? Yeah,
40:12
maybe, maybe I do feel like the other
40:15
sometimes. Are you confused
40:17
about what you're looking for? I think
40:19
so. Because this casual like hookup was
40:21
fun. And I, I don't think I've
40:23
really had like a phase where I've
40:26
just been like having fun and not
40:28
looking for anything serious. I don't
40:30
think I have either if that's any consolation.
40:32
But now I met the love of my
40:34
life. I'm telling you, it's a
40:36
good phase. I actually think it's a good phase
40:38
to be in a mindset of like, you know
40:41
what, I'm just going to have fun and lighten
40:43
up about it. Because when you're trying to look
40:45
for it too hard, it feels impossible. It feels
40:47
like a needle in a haystack. But like, for
40:50
all intents and purposes, you just got out of
40:52
a big relationship. So now you're
40:54
in that mode where you want to just be
40:56
free and have some fun. Also, I would say
40:58
tap into your
41:01
friends who are in relationships, like friends
41:03
of friends. It's a great way to
41:05
meet people because, you
41:07
know, inherently, you might already have
41:09
some stuff in common, right? Like
41:11
your friends, girlfriend's friend. Matthew, here
41:15
is an idea. I wonder if you
41:17
just simply tell yourself not that you're
41:20
going to be single, but that you're
41:22
just going to sit back with yourself
41:24
and your experiences and not put any
41:27
pressure on it till next January. Yeah.
41:30
That's nice. I like that long runway.
41:32
Yeah. You know, a year sometimes
41:34
like so long, right? These
41:36
days I feel like they fly by.
41:39
Here's the thing that I think goes
41:41
with this, right? For that year, this
41:43
friend of mine recently, she was like,
41:45
my current mantra is if it's not
41:47
easy, it's not for me. And
41:50
I was like, I love that. Like this
41:52
girl that you had this hookup with, the
41:54
hookup was great. Now, after you're texting back
41:56
and forth too many times to make a
41:59
plan, it's It's like, okay, well, let's not
42:01
go out because why is this so difficult
42:03
just to have our next hangout? Like
42:05
it shouldn't be that hard. Nothing
42:08
should be hard. You're 25 years old. Things
42:10
should be easy and fun. But that
42:12
doesn't mean that you're not going on a second
42:14
or third date with someone that you like. If
42:17
that presents itself, it's like, this is the year
42:19
I'm going to have fun and be open to
42:21
whatever that means. I really
42:23
like this time commitment idea. And I haven't
42:26
thought of it before. When
42:28
you said it initially, it sounded like a long time
42:30
to me. And I think that's a clue that I
42:32
should probably take the advice. Good. Because
42:35
I think that means I was
42:37
secretly hoping for a quick phase or
42:39
something. But letting it breathe and giving
42:42
it some time, I think would make
42:44
it a better time. Yeah. I'm
42:46
glad you find relief in that. So
42:48
this is your study abroad year. Yeah. You're
42:51
25. I love it. You've
42:53
got nothing to lose. You know what
42:56
I mean? Open yourself to having some
42:58
really odd experiences and maybe expand
43:00
your social circle. You'd be like
43:02
that? Yeah. I believe in
43:04
your future, Matthew. Thanks so much. Thank
43:07
you so much. Yeah. Thank
43:09
you, Matthew. Good luck with it all. Yeah. I
43:12
appreciate it. So nice to meet both of you. This
43:14
was awesome. It's really nice to meet you too. Nice
43:16
to meet you too. Have a wonderful rest of your
43:18
day, Matthew. Thank you so much for talking to this.
43:25
Thank you. You're wonderful. Thank
43:27
you. So are you. You
43:29
have always been stunning. Thank you, Anna. As
43:33
actresses, we get sort of slaughtered with the
43:35
age thing. I
43:45
was going to say, you know, I just turned
43:47
40 in December and I'm like, I like it.
43:49
Oh, you look smoking hot.
43:52
Thank you. But it's interesting to
43:54
me because now everybody's like, let's talk about how
43:56
you're 40. And I'm like,
43:58
I mean, why? What about how
44:01
I was Thirty nine? I know the trains
44:03
less the station. They do have a choice.
44:05
Like why is it suddenly I
44:07
know. I think about how it's
44:10
gauged times. But
44:12
when you write, do you start?
44:14
From a character and other characters
44:16
to the chicken. Around in your
44:18
head. still. weirdly when I look
44:20
at this the real. Projects I've
44:22
written three films say that
44:25
have been made and the
44:27
Craziest. Part is that it didn't start from
44:29
a character place even though I often think in
44:31
my mind, oh, the whole reason that I'm writing.
44:33
Is said that I can write characters but
44:35
I want to play that actually every time
44:37
It was the story. The first film I
44:39
wrote had been in my mind for years
44:41
of wanting to tell a story about. So.
44:43
Know your mental illness and
44:46
my grandmother's history with paranoid
44:48
Schizophrenia. And like my paranoia about that existing
44:50
and my bloodline like that was like sort
44:52
of his abstract. Idea that I even wanted to
44:54
put into something. And then this. Movie.
44:57
It was days and I. Actually think
44:59
we started with the genre but has.
45:01
His first film that he wrote directed
45:03
was a horror movie called The Rental
45:05
Die Within and it was. So good!
45:07
And she loves horror movies and I just
45:09
think she really wanted a swing over to
45:11
the other. Side of the spectrum and.
45:14
We really wanted to write something
45:16
together and I was penalised. Well
45:18
I love from his tongue see
45:20
the light side. Of the
45:22
second. So. I thought we actually
45:24
all have started there and the like
45:27
I said of our way and was
45:29
about kind of the one that got
45:31
away and we knew we wanted to
45:33
have some sort of love triangle and
45:35
how could we may thought idea of
45:37
fresh and apply it to like how
45:39
people are today but hop into than
45:41
a soldier from like all our favorite
45:43
rom coms and head of use all
45:45
those same tropes but update them I
45:47
guess So yeah I think it's always
45:49
been more story driven and it's hard
45:52
for me to pinpoint like the we'll.
45:54
Have like a role that I would want
45:56
to do right. I feel like I don't
45:58
know them off and into. Oh I.
46:01
See. Them or if I read
46:03
that you know I will never
46:05
forget when I read the pilot
46:07
for Glow and then launched my
46:09
like full scale. Assault
46:12
on that audition process to
46:14
get that role because I
46:16
was floored. By that script and
46:18
that character and not whole world was
46:20
really interesting to me and with such
46:22
a great so for. You know what
46:24
I mean. It's not like Prior to
46:27
that I was like a dying to
46:29
play a female wrestler. I hadn't even
46:31
thought about that. You know I think
46:33
I'm the opposite. I don't necessarily know
46:36
the story but I know an idea
46:38
of like I've always wanted to play
46:40
the Los Angeles self described as. Well
46:44
as I don't exactly know
46:46
what happens to since as
46:48
an ice yeah of what
46:50
separates the exceptional to use
46:52
a sexist term. Gold digger
46:55
from the long term girlfriend?
46:57
Yeah, professional girlfriend. When
46:59
I visited Los Angeles as really
47:02
struck by the cells explanation of
47:04
like sure is who I am
47:06
and hi my spiritual I'm really
47:08
creative and and I'm a Gemini.
47:11
It is funny because it's also like
47:13
oh I still like any time I've
47:16
been asked to like pinpoint exactly who
47:18
I am and what I'm about. you
47:20
must feel this way to like aside,
47:22
I seek the stuff out some more.
47:24
Tag me and something on Instagram and
47:26
it's a quotes of something I said
47:29
ten. Twelve years ago and I'm like
47:31
oh of that reflects who I
47:33
am, that like I'm sort of like,
47:35
how could anyone ever to. Here's
47:37
what I am curious. You're like, I
47:40
don't know. I said journey through
47:42
China how I'm feeling today. Acceptance: I
47:44
mean certainly sir things that define
47:46
as so it's important like know who
47:48
you are. I guess the that
47:50
should be kept to the yearbooks. Yeah
47:53
No. It's just when
47:55
you want to flip through them is
47:57
like every ten years maybe? Totally.
48:01
Allison, I can't thank you
48:03
enough. You're so unbelievably talented.
48:06
That's a very kind thing to say.
48:08
It's very much the truth. Thank
48:11
you. Your movie is out now.
48:13
Yes. Somebody I used to
48:15
know. Somebody I used to know.
48:17
It's on Amazon Prime Video. Watch
48:19
it everywhere globally. I love you. I
48:21
love you. It's
48:30
a great place to be.
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