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Hey everyone, and welcome to another bite
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where we rewatch the most innovative and
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intriguing pitches from Shark Tank. I'm Jory
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and I'm joined by the agreeable, the
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to grow better today. Today
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in the tank we have Read-A-Rest, and Read-A-Rest is brought
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to us by founder Rick who's asking for $150,000 for
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15% of his business, which is a whopping $1 million
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valuation. This
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was an episode from 2012, so do with that
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as you will. Season
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three. Yeah, season three. Can you
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imagine? So the
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problem that Rick is trying to
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solve with Read-A-Rest is that people
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often lose The
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sharks are like, oh, it's bad theater, which I thought,
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oh, okay, it's going into his pitch, but never... But
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then you're right. He never mentions that he fell over.
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Yep. Versus like, oh, I have my glasses. That wouldn't
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have happened. Right. I think
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there are ways he could have strengthened that
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intro. And it just sets things off on
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the literal wrong foot. So I feel like
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we're kind of wasn't set up for success
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to start with. Secondly, let's talk about the
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branding, Rutter Rest or Read-A-Rest. Exactly. Point proven
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already. If the name doesn't... It's
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not very clear. I think we had
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another product we reviewed that was either
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the wristlet or... The glasses that became
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like a bracelet. Yep. Yes. Which actually
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ties into the functionality of the product,
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what it's utilized for. This isn't really
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highlighted as a reading accessible tool or
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this makes your glasses easier to pull
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from. So that way you don't have
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to wear it as the granny chain,
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as you call it. And I'm just
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going to call it the granny chain,
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Jory. It hurts my heart. There's probably
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a more formal name for it. Not
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the granny chain. But I think there's
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a clear kind of lack of
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direction around the use case of
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this. So we see it even
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in his branding. The stock-esque photos
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that he has on the background
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of a girl in a bathing
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suit having her eyeglasses on the
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bikini bottom. It doesn't really explain
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what it's utilized for. So I think there is
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a lot of really easy ways from a marketing
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perspective that he could have just been like, look,
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this is for readers that don't want to have
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to feel the burden around their neck. This is
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for kids when they're going out and playing sports.
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They show photos of that product functionality, but it
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just seems like a whole bunch of just random
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photos kind of pasted together and a
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random name tied in, a random start
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to the pitch. It just set
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off all my red flags. So I feel
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like I was out immediately. I don't know
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about you, Jory. Do you
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remember back in maybe it was around 2012,
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but they used to have these grayscale infomercials
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often around baking equipment where they were like,
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do you worry about your cake being soggy
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and it'd be like someone doing something ridiculous,
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like throwing the cake. out the window. Yes,
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because they're like shaking something. Yeah, and it's
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just like that is not what's happening in
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a kitchen. Yes, the overdramatized. Like it wouldn't
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work in today's market, but it feels like
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it would have been one of those products
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that we would have seen on those grayscale
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sort of infomercials where it's like, do you
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worry about your glasses falling? And it's like
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literally someone throwing them out the window because
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he's being really over the top with some
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of these use cases, which makes it really
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hard as a consumer to be like, I
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really need this where if he had taken
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the more authentic spin of pay,
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like I wear replacements can cost
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up to $500 depending on your
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prescription or more and really leaning
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into like it's often such an
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important product that people carry with
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them in their everyday. I
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just wish there was more authenticity and
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less infomercial in this pitch and
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in the branding because I do think
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that if it is this super strong
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magnet, it's something that he's making himself.
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I almost wish that he had brought that
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in where he's like, I put so much
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effort and personally create every single one
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of these magnets to ensure that you
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never have to worry about losing your
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glasses again. I just think it's
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an issue of tone setting and ultimately
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it sort of felt like it was
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something that would end in that where
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products go to die end cap in
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the checkout line of Walmart because it's
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just like the branding, it's super loud.
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The use cases that are displayed are
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actually not use cases that your everyday
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consumer, there's just to your
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point a lot of disjointed efforts and tone
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setting and marketing that's going on that I
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think just like plus a thousand to what
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you said could have just been tightened up
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way before this pitch. And so
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we get this like messy scramble of ideas
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as the result on Shark Tank. Yeah, that's
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the main route of marketing, being able to
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tie into people's concerns and their fears. So
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I think if he would have came
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to the tank and just been like,
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hey, everyone worries about losing their glasses.
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I think really leaning into that fear
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and we talk about vitamins and painkillers,
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but essentially this is a solution for
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a common frustration or pain point would
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have strengthened and solidified his pitch so
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much more. Because I think once we
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get into the numbers, it just slowly
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starts like unraveling unraveling before us. You
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mentioned numbers. So he's selling these for $9.99
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to $19.99 margin. Good margin. He's selling
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65,000. So clearly even with
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this mixed messaging, he's doing work. Yeah.
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And he's making really good margins. It's
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costing him only $1.05 to make these
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too, if you're getting
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the crystal fancy models. Which was
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completely unnecessary. I'm sorry. I would
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never wear a Swarkovsky crystal. Girl.
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Magnetic glasses holder. Are you kidding?
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That was the moment in the
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pitch that was like, okay, strap.
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Yeah. I was like, buy in,
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where can I get one? Oh,
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Jory. No, that solidified the red
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flag even more for me. I
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was like, what? Who in the
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right mind would ask for this?
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My grandmother would froth at the
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mouth to get her hands on
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this crystal magnet. I tell you
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what. So, oh yes. Oh my
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gosh. Shout out. Grandpa Rose. I
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feel like sharks had the same response to them
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crystals as you did. A lot of work. The
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sharks are starting to see as potentially
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part of scaling this type
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of product. Damon's, Rob, Kevin,
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Mark, way out. Part
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of that though was we kind of
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breezed over it. He's made 65,000. He's valuing
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himself at 1
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million. Yeah. And I feel
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like that differential in the
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numbers game really turned a
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lot of sharks off. So
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we did have the QVC queen
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step into the ring. Lori offers
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$150,000 for 65% of
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the company. He tries to counter
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it down to 49% or offers even a
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total buyout as long as
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he maintains royalties, which maybe I don't know.
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I'm forgetting some of our episodes, but like
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that was the first time I remember a
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founder offering to totally sell the company to
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the shark. Lori is
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not one to be trifled with on
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the business game. So just
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declines all of these counter offers. So
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ultimately they do seal the deal at
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$150,000 for 65%, which
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again, it was an early episode, but
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again, we see the case of
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a founder giving a majority state to a shark
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to ensure that the shark tank deal goes through.
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I feel like that's what's best for
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the business, honestly, is to have a
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shark have the majority stake. And I
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think the fact when the founder was
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willing to just sell the company and
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just get a royalty deal signals to
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me, like, okay, maybe you're not interested
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necessarily in the long term for getting
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this business up to scale. I will
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say though, Jory, I feel like this
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was not a shark response from Lori,
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but it was a very snark response.
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I've never seen her in any of our
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segments ask a founder for 65% like stake.
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I thought she was joking at first. I was like,
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no, she's just like, I don't like this idea. I
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don't like this founder. I'm just gonna say, let's do
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it for 65%. Do
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you think she'd never again offered that because
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of how bad this one? Maybe. Could
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be. It was season three, yeah. It
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was season three. You know, it's interesting
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because I feel like in the earlier
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seasons, Kevin is much nicer and Lori
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is much stricter. And
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Rob was much more intense too, I
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noticed. Yeah, Rob is super chill these
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days. He's interested in founders and growing
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his portfolio, but I feel like it
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switches in the later season where Lori
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is a coach in the later seasons
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and she will often be like, maybe
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you should consider. And
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I feel like Kevin was that role in
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the earlier season. So it's just interesting to
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like go back and also just see the
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difference in, of course all the products, but
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like the difference in the sharks behavior because
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I feel like their type of investing strategy
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also evolves over time. Yeah.
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