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Sound good . Welcome

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to Ask , gwynn . Everyone

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Today with me I have Dylan

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. Dylan is notable

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in the artificial intelligence

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space , a space

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that I admit I am

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starting to get

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involved with because

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of my

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digital art background

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. So I'm testing out

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artificial intelligence on

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that end . But I have no

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clue what you can do

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with artificial intelligence . So

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I'm going to miss Dylan . Take it

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away and educate me and

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educate all the rest of us .

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Awesome . Well , thanks for

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having me here . So , yeah , i think artificial

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intelligence is really crazy

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and how fast it's accelerated and what's

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happening A lot of people

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don't realize is artificial

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intelligence has been , while in

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the last six months it's

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been in the mainstream news , everyone's talking about

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it , but the reality

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is it's actually been in the works for

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almost a decade

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I mean , obviously way before that . But

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ChatGPT , specifically , has been worked

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on for eight years , about eight years

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ago . A bunch of Silicon Valley .

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Yeah , it's crazy , right , it feels

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like it just came up yesterday , but It

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does feel like it just

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came up yesterday because someone

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who I worked with

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in the medical

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space told

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me about ChatGPT and

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I got curious about

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it and then I delved into

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it for my own artwork

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space and I

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now use a program

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called Night

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Creator because I

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wanted to see what it does . And

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for those of you who

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don't know about ChatGPT

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apparently you can write

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this all the time . I'm not telling

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you to do this , but at least

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you can get title

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ideas for book .

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Yeah , there's a lot of

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power in AI and

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there's almost like a misconception

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that it's this scary thing that

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we should be afraid of . I

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think it's a great tool if people use it , so

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I'm not afraid

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of AI .

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I'm not afraid of AI . I'm

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not afraid of self-driving vehicles either .

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Nice , yeah , i've got a . I

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actually have two Teslas actually that

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drive themselves around not fully

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yet , but it is

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amazing and I think that

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for even for people

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. So there's multiple applications

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, there's business , there's life , but

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for business specifically , you

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can use it for pretty much everything

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you can imagine , but in life , there's

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actually additional opportunities as

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well . So , for example , i

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got a call one

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day from one of my employees and

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she's sitting here saying all these things and I

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didn't know what to say back . So I pulled

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up ChatGPT and I typed in

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. I said , okay , one of my employees is saying

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this and this , how do I respond

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? I was like literally real time while she's on the phone , and

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it gave me a couple ideas , and so I

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took that , set it back to her and

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it was the perfect answer . I would have never

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came up with that myself , and so

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here's the thing it's pretty crazy to think like

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, what if AI could replicate my

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voice to the point where she's

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not even talking to me , she's just talking to AI

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, and I think we're

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moving in that direction where pretty

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soon , probably the next two or three years there'll

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be a tool like we won't even be doing this

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conversation right now . You'd be talking to

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my AI , my AI would be talking to your AI

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and it would just be like we would just get notes

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after saying hey , this is what happened .

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It's so funny you say that because

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I did a little experiment

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with Aswin yesterday

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. I had my assistant

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my new podcast

4:32

host , Buzz

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Belt , does AI co-host

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And

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what AI co-host does is

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it comes up with showtiles

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and show notes

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. So I had it turn

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over the showtile and

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that did a pretty good job of

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turning over the showtile And

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I was impressed . I'm

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impressed by all the physical intelligence

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now .

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Yeah , yeah , it is amazing . And

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beyond chat , gbt and these tools

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that we have , there's

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ways to create logos and branding and all

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this stuff And I

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have been experimenting with , google

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has BARD is what their

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version of it's called And BARD

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basically is Google's AI . Gpt

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is effectively it's Microsoft's

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AI tool , and so it's

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almost like now there's the AI wars

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between these two platforms to see

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who ultimately , is gonna be like the main one

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.

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Yeah , and how

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did you get into all

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this space ?

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So my background's in marketing . I

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ran a still do run a marketing

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company , and

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through it I saw that there are

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some things that I wanted to improve

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on , so I ended up creating a software

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company called Agency Box . Now

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, with the way the world's changing

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and AI coming in , about

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a year ago I saw the opportunity where

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it's like this stuff's moving fast , and

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so we started implementing AI

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into the company about a year

6:26

ago in different ways , and

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we're continuing to do it , and the goal is

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to create a product that

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AI does the majority

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of the marketing , and so any

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kind of business or

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who wants to market they just come on

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to this little platform And if

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you wouldn't even have to promote the podcast , the

6:47

platform promotes it . Everything you

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need done is done by AI as

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far as marketing goes . So

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I'm a AI consumer , i'm a tech

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nerd , i see the possibilities

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and I studied this stuff and

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I really enjoy it .

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So you study , so

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your background is

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in marketing And

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you

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study the next best

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wave here , which

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I think , to be quite

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honest with you , i think AI is going

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to help disabilities

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in the long run . For those of you that

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do not know , i have a disability

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. For those of you that do not know

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, i my legs don't

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work due to CP

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, so due to

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cerebral palsy , and I

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am coming to realize

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over the past couple of weeks that

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AI is

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going to help the

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disabled . I have two

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small speakers in

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my house , which one

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of them is Apple . One of them

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is Amazon

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Smart Speaker , and

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so I say

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Amazon Smart Speaker

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, please turn

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on living room light

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. And she

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automatically does that . And

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I use AI

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and these smart speakers

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as assist devices . People

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are like what ? You use the

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smart speakers as assist

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devices . I'm like , yeah , because I can't

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turn on the light . Basically

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, i can't turn on the light because

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I'm trying to figure out how

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to make this house

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more handicapped than the other

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thing is . So

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I think that AI

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and these smart speakers even

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though some people say it's big buzzer watching

8:53

you I think

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that AI is the best thing

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since sliced bread .

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Yeah , it's going to be really helpful , really , really helpful

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, and it's going to change . The thing is , i

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think , for people who are scared of change

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, they like things to be the same , they want everything

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to be just the same as it always was

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. They're going to be really shook

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it up when this takes over

9:17

. And for

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you , you know you're using it for

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your reasons , i'm using it for mine . It's like it's

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going to . It's going to really help a lot of people

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.

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Yes , they are , it's going to

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. I am in the process of

9:34

publishing

9:36

and write . Well , the

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book is with , with , and I'm in

9:40

the process of editing and publishing

9:43

a book And

9:45

, again , my certain stuff . I'm

9:47

also in the process of getting a digital

9:50

business card . You guys , digital

9:53

business card , all

9:55

you have to do is tap your phone and

9:57

the business card appears and

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a page pops up and business card appears

10:02

And I'm like there comes

10:04

a day of traditional business

10:06

cards . I mean this

10:08

technology , and so I think

10:10

I I shouldn't say I think

10:12

I know that AI is going to be integrated

10:15

into this technology

10:18

.

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Yeah , Yeah

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, it will be , and I think that will . So

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there there's like there's two , two things

10:27

happening . There's artificial intelligence

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and then there's automation , and

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I think some people don't

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understand the difference , and

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the thing is , what's happening right now is there's artificial

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intelligence means that a

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computer has the ability to create

10:44

new stuff . So , let's

10:47

say , paint a picture , right , It can take

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in all the feedback . In fact , this picture

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right here behind me was actually created with AI , and

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AI made that . Now

10:56

, i say that to say I

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have another picture that's on

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the other side of the wall that was made with automation

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, and so this one , i

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said make a chessboard , you

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know , and I made it , and

11:09

all the stuff . This one , though

11:11

, is just some company that has

11:13

a photo that they put

11:15

into a you know , into a machine , and it prints it

11:17

, and another one prints it , and another one prints it , and

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so the thing about automation is automation

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is repetitive tasks , over and over and over again

11:24

. Turn the lights on at 8 am , turn the

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lights off . So a lot

11:29

of companies right now are

11:31

advertising automation , but

11:33

calling it AI , because it's

11:35

like a trendy word to use , but

11:38

real AI is the kind

11:40

of stuff that you , for example in

11:42

the morning , could say Hey , i'm

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up today , i don't know what I want to do , like

11:47

, like , tell me what we're going to do today

11:49

and make sure that I can have fun

11:51

, i can eat healthy , i can do this , and

11:54

it'll put together the plan and then it'll

11:56

take you into the car and drive you around and you'll do

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all the stuff . Yeah that'd

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be cool Right .

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I'm not . I people

12:03

have teased me over the years . They

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know I have a vehicle but I can't drive

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. They said , well , when

12:10

? um , how would you

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feel about advanced

12:14

technology stuff driving the vehicle

12:16

? And I said I don't care

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, i'm a little

12:21

scared of we more right now . For

12:23

those of you that don't know about we

12:25

more and we more is

12:28

a self-driving

12:30

driverless vehicle

12:32

that has taken . I

12:36

saw them . And for those of you that don't

12:38

know , i live in Phoenix

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, san Antonio , so

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I saw we know the

12:46

couple of weeks ago and then we know

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I was in San Francisco and

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I'm a little bit afraid of

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driverless vehicles but

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I am a little bit afraid . I'm

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not afraid of a test wheel , but

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I'm a little bit afraid of driverless

13:04

completely vehicles . But

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technology is changing enough

13:08

. Well , when is that

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going to get a flight of driverless vehicles

13:13

? because technology in my

13:15

lifetime will change

13:18

dramatically . I mean

13:21

, i now have a wheelchair

13:23

that and I bought another

13:26

wheelchair a year ago

13:28

. I just sold it but I

13:31

had a big company in the wheelchair . Now

13:33

I'm in this tiny little wheelchair

13:36

that falls

13:38

on itself , that I can travel

13:41

this . So I'm like

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technology is changing . And

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that was within

13:47

a year . So technology

13:49

is changing rapidly

13:51

right before us .

13:56

Yeah , things are going crazy . And

13:58

it's almost like I remember my grandparents

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. they had one of the

14:02

big Microsoft computers in

14:04

their house . They have the little office

14:07

room with the big computer and then the

14:09

piece below that controls it and

14:12

the big keyboard and the big mouse . And

14:15

we had one growing up too , like we had the

14:17

family computer . It sits in the main room and

14:19

everyone would use it , which saying

14:22

that now reminds me of when my mom used to

14:24

say , oh yeah , we had the family phone , the

14:26

corded phone . right , they would have like

14:28

one phone for the family . And

14:30

so it's crazy because I

14:32

remember my grandparents . like my

14:35

grandma told me she's like I just can't follow

14:37

this stuff . It just doesn't make sense to me . I

14:39

can't use it And

14:42

it's going even faster now . where

14:44

people are , how are they supposed to track

14:46

? Like my mom , i had

14:48

to spend an hour and a half with her to show her how

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to use chat GBT And she'll

14:53

still never be able to really use it

14:55

because it's so far ahead .

14:58

And I think the older

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generation

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is a little

15:04

behind on the curves

15:07

. I mean

15:09

, i have been asked

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several times by the

15:13

older generation can you help

15:16

me with technology

15:18

? Can you do this for

15:21

me , can you help me with

15:23

technology ? And of course I'll say yes

15:25

, because that's what I do

15:28

. But it's interesting

15:30

when I mentioned to the older generation

15:33

that chat and GBT type

15:35

in two words , it will come up with a whole

15:37

paper . Yeah , it's

15:39

totally like they're going to be like what

15:42

? Now you don't have to type

15:44

a whole paper now

15:46

, yeah , you don't

15:48

have to type forever

15:50

And I can't type . So I admit

15:53

that I can't type . What's wrong ? I use speech

15:55

dictation , ai , different

15:57

or intelligent . I use Siri

15:59

on my Apple iPhone to

16:01

send texts and people like what

16:03

are you doing ? And

16:06

technology has Siri and

16:08

it's got some better older

16:10

years to . I

16:13

remember back in the 90s And this

16:15

takes myself . I remember back

16:17

in the 90s using the first

16:19

on the family community , using

16:22

the first speech

16:25

text dictation software

16:28

, and that was a

16:30

free themselves And

16:32

it didn't help me at all . Now

16:35

I'm bouncing around Phoenix sales

16:37

owner sending text message left

16:39

to right and center on Siri . So

16:42

, yeah , technology

16:45

is very , very cool .

16:48

Yeah , and maybe I think

16:50

what's going to happen now that we're talking about

16:52

it is they'll be everyone

16:54

will kind of get their family AI

16:57

tool , whatever it is . Who knows

16:59

who's going to make it , but they'll be like a

17:01

little robot in everyone's house

17:03

that

17:06

takes the dogs out , takes the trash out

17:08

, washes the dishes and all that stuff . And

17:10

then one day we'll all have AI

17:12

somehow integrated with us . And maybe

17:15

it's going to be Elon Musk He's got Starlink Or

17:17

maybe it's going to be

17:19

who knows what it is , but there's going to

17:22

be something . We're all going to be integrated

17:24

with it And , who knows , maybe

17:26

it will even take over the world .

17:30

I hope not , but at the same

17:33

time I hope so . People

17:36

have as if they

17:39

don't accept disabilities that

17:41

easily . they have got to accept

17:43

the power wheelchairs run

17:45

by . AI , and

17:49

I know in the next

17:51

couple of years I'll see wheelchairs with

17:53

people who came and speak

17:55

to their wheelchairs and the wheelchairs

17:57

who take them wherever they want to

17:59

go . That's

18:03

by vision and knowledge

18:05

, virtual intelligence And then chat

18:08

GPT . You can use

18:11

mobile Chat

18:13

. Gpt will help the

18:15

disabled as well . So

18:17

I think technology is pretty

18:19

damn cool . Whether

18:22

it is right now , i just can't wait to

18:25

see into the future , and

18:27

I know you had a bunch of

18:29

questions for me in

18:31

my opinion on this

18:33

, so go ahead and ask .

18:37

Yeah , i mean so like what's

18:39

what do you see the

18:41

future of this and how is it going to be actually working

18:43

out with people that have disabilities

18:46

?

18:47

I see , as I said , i

18:50

see no joysticks on

18:53

chairs , which means

18:55

you take

18:57

a little remote

18:59

and you have

19:03

a button and you

19:05

say to the chair I want

19:07

to go straight , i want to turn

19:09

, i want to do all this , and

19:13

in that little button the chair

19:15

will automatically move , which means

19:17

no joysticks can get broken

19:19

, thank God . And

19:23

so I feel like AI

19:26

and chat TPP will help the

19:28

disabled and the long run . Because

19:31

, for those of you guys

19:33

who remember Stephen Hawkins , stephen

19:35

Hawkins could drink with

19:37

Stephen Hawkins . Background

19:39

is in science , was

19:41

and is in science And

19:44

he was a fairly famous scientist

19:46

. He had against disease

19:49

and he ended up

19:52

drinking books

19:54

and drinking everything else

19:56

and probably drinking Facebook

19:58

post , knowing them . And

20:01

if you look at Helen Keller

20:03

and and Sullivan

20:06

and that team way back

20:08

when to and

20:11

any Sullivan taught

20:13

Helen Keller how to

20:15

speak And so , basically

20:18

, if they had chat

20:22

, gpt and if they

20:24

had the

20:27

technologies we have

20:29

now , the

20:31

disabled

20:33

could get in trouble And

20:36

I'll say that was love . That disabled

20:38

is going to get in trouble and

20:40

myself I'm going to get in trouble because

20:42

I'll be bouncing around with

20:46

chat GPT , i'll be bouncing

20:48

around with AI on a wheelchair there

20:50

.

20:52

That's awesome , and

20:54

I have one more question for you , which was

20:57

about when we're looking at

20:59

the way technology is going in with

21:01

AI . What are you most excited

21:03

for personally ?

21:05

I am the most excited for

21:09

the Amazon smart speakers

21:12

and the smart speakers in general

21:14

to get smarter and

21:17

say , instead

21:20

of saying I'm having trouble

21:22

connecting to the internet , which

21:24

happens at the time I smart

21:27

speaking , does the Amazon

21:29

smart speaker does that's a month to the

21:31

Apple smart speaker . but the

21:33

Amazon smart speaker will say

21:35

I'm having trouble connecting to the internet

21:37

And I'm like , okay , you

21:40

are . And so I am curious

21:42

to say what she will

21:44

say as her technology

21:47

advances . And

21:49

the reason why I'm not saying her

21:51

name is because everyone

21:54

who listens to this podcast

21:56

, their smart speaker will go off

21:58

. I have realized that over

22:00

the years , so I'm curious as

22:03

to see what these

22:05

smart speakers will do

22:07

in advance in

22:10

advancements of technology .

22:16

Well , this has been fun .

22:17

It's been good chatting with you And so where can

22:20

people find you and where can people

22:22

find your services if

22:24

they need to get more

22:27

marketing experience ?

22:30

But basically what I do is I'm making

22:32

social media . My Instagram

22:35

is the best . Everything else kind of gets filtered

22:37

before it hits me , like my assistant

22:39

sees it and stuff . So it's Dylan

22:41

D-Y-L-A-N . Vanes

22:44

V as Victor A-N-A-S

22:46

. Just shoot me an image on

22:48

Instagram . I'd love to hear from you .

22:49

And we will put that in the film , and

22:52

I hope you guys enjoyed

22:55

another fabulous episode of Ask

22:57

When God's Technology

23:00

is Late , but it's going to get scary

23:02

here quickly , and

23:04

so be safe with this technology

23:07

. I tried to be as safe as I can

23:09

with it , but I can barely keep up

23:11

with it . And I'm in the

23:13

interest of podcasting

23:16

, but I can barely keep up with it , and

23:19

so I hope you guys enjoyed another

23:21

fabulous episode of Ask When

23:23

Science is a Guest . Bye , you guys .