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This is a true crime podcast, as the title
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2:33
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2:36
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Australian, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners
2:40
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2:42
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2:54
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2:56
on which it's recorded. They
3:00
pay respect to the Aboriginal
3:03
elders past, present and those
3:05
emerging. Don't
3:09
think of Ned Kelly. Don't think of these
3:11
Wild West outlaws when you're talking about Captain
3:13
Moonlight. We're talking about a man who regarded
3:16
himself as a true gentleman of the era.
3:19
Chivalry, codes of honour, those
3:21
were the things that he sort of lived by. And
3:24
he was mystified by the fact that most
3:26
other people didn't see him that way. And it
3:28
was incredibly frustrated. And I think it led to
3:31
a lot of anger issues and eventually
3:33
to a massive showdown that became
3:35
front page news all
3:37
around the country in 1879. I
3:41
have vague recollections of primary
3:43
school projects about bushrangers. For
3:46
those of you living outside of Australia, that's
3:48
the name our forefathers gave to men whom
3:51
today we'd call armed robbers. Of
3:54
course, Ned Kelly is always the star of the show. But
3:57
I'm not going to go into the
3:59
details of his life. star of the
4:01
Bushranger show, thanks to his distinctive homemade
4:03
metal armour and his way with words.
4:06
As he stood on the gallows in Old
4:08
Melbourne Jail about to be hung, he was
4:10
quoted as saying, such is life. He
4:13
probably inherited his poetic streak from his
4:15
mother. Apparently her last words
4:17
to him were, die like
4:19
a Kelly. Tough
4:21
family. There
4:23
have been no less than six movies about
4:26
Ned. He's been played by Heath Ledger and
4:28
Mick Jagger, among others. But
4:30
other Bushrangers lived on in Australian
4:32
culture too, thanks to movies and
4:34
songs taught to children. It
4:37
helped if they had exciting nicknames
4:39
like Mad Dog Morgan, the wild
4:41
colonial boy Jack Doolan, Captain
4:44
Thunderbolt, and the man
4:46
we're hearing about today, Captain Moonlight.
4:49
In the early 19th century when Australia
4:51
was still a British convict colony, a
4:54
prison without walls, these men
4:56
were seen by many as folk heroes,
4:58
fighting back against the brutal ruling elite
5:00
that had sent them here. The
5:03
majority of the most famous Bushrangers were
5:05
former convicts themselves, who'd either been released
5:07
at the end of their sentence or
5:10
had escaped. Either way,
5:12
they found themselves in a foreign and
5:14
inhospitable land with no way home. Rather
5:17
than accept the menial and low paid
5:19
work available to former convicts at the
5:22
time, these men obtained horses and guns
5:24
and took to the lonely roads between
5:26
settlements to rob people. There
5:29
are many fascinating and often gruesome stories
5:31
about the lives and the deaths of
5:33
these men. Tasmanian Bushranger
5:36
Alexander Pearce and his gang got
5:38
lost in the bush at one
5:40
point and they began murdering and
5:42
eating each other. Pearce survived,
5:44
but when he later found himself on
5:46
the run with just one other companion, he
5:49
ate him too. Captain
5:51
Moonlight was a very different character. Despite
5:54
the fantastic nickname, there's been
5:56
conspicuously little information available about
5:59
him. That was until journalist
6:01
and author Gary Lenell started looking into
6:03
the story. The result is a
6:05
great book that uncovers some surprising aspects
6:07
of Moonlight's story. Aspects,
6:09
some say, are the reason he
6:12
hasn't been eulogized like his contemporaries.
6:15
The book is called Moonlight, the tragic
6:17
love story of Captain Moonlight and the
6:19
bloody end of the Bushrangers. And
6:22
Gary Lenell joins us on Australian True Crime to
6:24
tell us about it. What was the first book you wrote to the British to
6:27
tell you about the first book you wrote to the British? I grew up
6:30
in the 60s and 70s, so I remember being
6:32
given, you know, books for Christmas
6:34
or your birthday, which were the big
6:36
album of Bushrangers. And there'd
6:38
be a page or two devoted to each
6:40
Bushranger. Of course, there'd be an entire chapter
6:42
devoted to Ned Kelly. But
6:45
occasionally, you'd come across this character, Captain
6:47
Moonlight. And I was always amazed by,
6:49
A, what a great
6:51
name, perfect name for a
6:53
Bushranger. But there was very little information
6:55
about it. And I used
6:57
to think, well, the guy with that sort
6:59
of name is surely one of the great
7:01
Bushrangers in Australian history. Why don't we know
7:03
more about him? And I've got
7:06
a theory about that. I've got a theory about
7:08
why he was sort of written out of history, I
7:10
guess. And then a few years ago, I was researching,
7:13
I was in the middle of research for another book.
7:16
And I just came across a couple of the
7:18
documents referring to Moonlight. And I thought, well, put
7:20
that aside. And when I
7:22
get time, I'll start digging into it. And
7:25
soon enough, it came around. And suddenly,
7:27
I was heading down
7:29
a lot of rabbit holes, trying to find
7:31
the real Captain Moonlight. I
7:33
guess you could say he was a
7:35
very different Bushranger. He almost fell into
7:37
Bushranging by accident. And
7:39
really, I mean, you're talking about 1880, the
7:42
year that he met his untimely
7:44
end. And it was really
7:46
a closing chapter, I think, on the history
7:48
of Bushrangers in Australia. Because early
7:50
1880, you have Andrew George
7:52
Scott, who was Captain Moonlight, arrested,
7:55
and then go into trial for the
7:57
murder of a police officer later that
7:59
year. you have Ned Kelly arrested
8:01
and then hanged in the old Melbourne
8:03
jail. And after that,
8:05
there aren't that many more after it.
8:08
So, you know, they sort of bookend
8:10
that era. And moonlight, I find is
8:12
probably far more fascinating and far
8:15
more interesting than Ned Kelly. Kelly's the one
8:17
who gets all the publicity and all
8:19
the mythology that's built up around
8:21
the Bushrangers is the archetypal Aussie
8:23
Bushranger, I guess. But moonlight is a
8:26
deeper and somewhat darker character, I think.
8:28
And they both have these Irish
8:30
backgrounds. Just thinking that both Irishmen,
8:32
both born in Ireland, what makes a
8:34
person a Bushranger? Well, they
8:37
were basically outlaws, effectively the
8:39
Australian equivalent of the
8:41
Wild West when you saw those guys
8:43
with big black hats right into the
8:46
town called Tombstone, where death was
8:48
a way of life. And very similar here
8:50
in Australia back in the 1850s and 1860s,
8:52
a lot of them were either escaped
8:55
convicts or people who
8:57
just couldn't find work. There were a series
8:59
of depressions and recessions during the 19th century.
9:02
And so they took to the Bush and on horseback,
9:04
they discovered they could actually make a living. Most
9:07
of them not very successfully. Most of them weren't
9:09
that very good. And by
9:11
and large, a lot of them, not all of them, but
9:14
a lot of them did live by a code of honour. And
9:16
the code of honour said that you don't rob
9:19
women and don't scare children.
9:22
And it was kind of very
9:24
gentlemanly, kind of that 19th century
9:26
thing. Bushrangers were mostly
9:28
robbing banks. Was that how they were
9:30
mostly making their money? Yeah, they
9:33
robbed banks. Cob and Co, the
9:35
coach line. But let's go back
9:37
in sort of like the 1850s
9:39
and 1860s, there was no telegraph.
9:42
So the only news that came through to these
9:44
small towns and stuck out in the middle of
9:46
nowhere were letters from home
9:48
and the newspapers. And obviously, sometimes these
9:50
newspapers have been delivered three or four
9:52
weeks or even months later. So they
9:55
were always way behind completely different to
9:57
our world now. And this was an
9:59
era. when most of these Bush rangers
10:01
were discovering that if you went and robbed
10:03
a coach, it was carrying
10:06
gold, or you robbed a local bank,
10:08
you could get away and it might
10:10
take days before the local troopers, the
10:12
police, could be notified. They
10:14
troubled the rangers very easily. They were
10:17
able to hide very well in a
10:19
lot of the thick forested areas of
10:21
Australia. And really,
10:23
I mean, people complained, but police forces
10:25
back then were actually, a lot of them
10:28
were private affairs. A lot of people would put them together
10:30
and then pay them out of their own pocket. And
10:32
it wasn't until the 1840s and 1950s and
10:35
into the 60s that you began to have
10:38
colony-led police forces. And the quality
10:40
of some of these troopers wasn't
10:43
great. I mean, a lot of them
10:45
had, you know, you might say suspicious
10:47
backgrounds themselves, and they were there
10:49
because it was a regular income and they could feed
10:51
their family. And they could carry a
10:53
gun. I think there's long been an idea
10:56
that certain kinds of blokes would
10:58
be happy to be either a cop or a robber.
11:01
It's just a similar lifestyle
11:04
in those days. You certainly
11:06
can't underestimate the power of that.
11:08
And most of them had a, I guess,
11:11
an ideological bent. Bushrangers, they
11:13
were against the British Empire,
11:16
they were against the colonies of Australia,
11:19
and they felt harassed by the police force
11:21
at the time. They were political, weren't
11:23
they? There's always the
11:25
stories about Ned Kelly that the Irish families
11:28
supported him and hit him when need be
11:30
and things like that. There was a very
11:32
political perspective to Bushranging. That's exactly right.
11:35
And Moonlight was one of those as well. I
11:37
mean, he had a very different background to most
11:40
of the Bushrangers. I mean, most of them
11:42
were born on dirt floor slab huts out
11:44
in the bush and the outback. They
11:47
could barely read or write. They were barely literate at
11:49
all. And yet Moonlight
11:51
came from a very well-off family in Northern
11:53
Ireland. He was born in
11:56
1845 in a little town called Rathreeland.
11:58
His father was very well-known. to do and quite
12:01
a powerful figure in that town. He used to
12:03
sort of adjudicate on criminal matters. So they were
12:05
the authority. His dad was the authority in
12:07
that town. Exactly. And he was sort
12:09
of caught up in the Protestant Catholic walls
12:11
of the time in Northern Ireland. This is just
12:13
after the famine that ripped
12:15
Ireland apart. You know, you had people
12:18
start to the point of starvation where
12:20
their bodies were found and
12:22
their lips were green and they'd be in
12:24
grass because that's all
12:26
they could actually find. So you're talking,
12:28
you know, extremes of poverty. Lots of
12:30
orphans. Absolutely. And yet Andrew
12:33
George Scott, as he was called then,
12:36
as a youngster, was born
12:38
into this family with a fair bit of wealth. He
12:41
was educated very well. The best teachers were
12:43
brought in. He read all of the classics, all
12:46
of the Greek philosophers. He very
12:48
well schooled, probably taught a couple of languages. And when
12:50
he was 10 or 12, he was sent
12:52
away to London to train with the British Navy
12:54
for a time. The family
12:57
then mysteriously loses their fortune
12:59
in the 1850s and they
13:01
have to emigrate. And New
13:03
Zealand is offering friends of
13:06
the empire right around the world the chance to
13:08
move to New Zealand. They'll give you 40 acres
13:11
and 40 pounds. And so
13:13
you can come and settle there and continue the
13:15
white man's rule over the Pacific. That's what they
13:17
were trying to get into more people in. He
13:20
goes there, he's 16 when he
13:22
arrives. And interestingly, one of
13:24
the first times he's recorded in history is
13:27
on the journey over on a boat called
13:29
the Black Eagle, which left from London to
13:32
New Zealand. The crew members
13:34
took a real disliking towards Andrew
13:36
George Scott, as it were, as he
13:38
would become known, Captain Moonlight. They
13:40
thought he'd had a few knocks on the
13:43
head, as how they describe him. He would
13:45
sort of veer from being pleasant and quite
13:47
funny on the boat to being moody
13:50
and sombre and not talking to anyone
13:52
for days. And that's the
13:54
first indication that we have that he sort
13:56
of struggles with this personality
13:58
issues that he has. and
14:00
probably would be diagnosed these days as
14:03
either bipolar or having some sort of
14:05
serious melody because there are a lot
14:07
of incidents in his life where he
14:10
just swung and he became very
14:12
violent and aggressive and at other times
14:15
he was extremely placid and erudite. He
14:18
ends up becoming a teacher for a short
14:20
time in Auckland. There are reports
14:22
that he forged checks
14:24
and also stole money from some
14:26
of his students. So he
14:28
obviously had leanings towards taking the easy
14:31
way out and eventually
14:33
arrives in Australia and goes
14:36
and visits a couple of friends. One of the
14:38
family friends is a one of the
14:40
head of the Anglican church in Melbourne and
14:42
he apports him a late preacher. So
14:45
Andrew Scott jumps on his horse and heads
14:48
off to places like Ballarat and Ararat. This
14:50
is the end of the gold rush in
14:52
Australia as well. There's a fair bit of
14:54
money around, particularly sitting in bank vaults. And
14:58
all along he starts nurturing
15:01
friendships with young men
15:03
around him. It's almost like he's a magnet.
15:06
They're usually a lot younger than him. He
15:08
has his own personal page when he
15:11
arrives in a place called Backersmarsh and
15:13
it's very unusual for a young man of
15:15
moonlight's age to have a page. This is
15:18
someone who looks after his horse, saddles it
15:20
for him, goes and gets his food
15:22
for him. And there's an
15:24
indication there that people thought this relationship was
15:26
a little bit different
15:29
to what they were accustomed to, particularly
15:31
in the bush in Victoria and New South
15:33
Wales. He ends up having
15:35
all sorts of arguments and all sorts of fights
15:37
with people. He's a fantastic preacher.
15:40
People love him. They flock from
15:42
tens of miles away on their horses every
15:44
Sunday morning to go and listen to him
15:47
give sermons in the local church.
15:50
Because he's got that powerful vocabulary,
15:52
he can talk, the
15:54
hair on people's neck would stand up. And
15:56
there are a lot of reports from people
15:58
that... They were astonished at
16:01
how fortunate they had this man with
16:03
this Irish accent giving them the
16:05
sermon every Sunday morning. I don't mean to be
16:07
dismissive, but I mean, obviously there wasn't much entertainment
16:09
going on at the time. No, there was no
16:11
Netflix. That was the problem. Yeah. I
16:14
mean, is it a problem or not? I don't
16:16
know. But I mean, you can see how then
16:18
having a guy like this wander into town who
16:20
is a great speaker, you know, would be something
16:22
to look forward to. You know what? There's
16:24
a part of me when I researched these books
16:27
and I've written a few books now dealing with
16:29
figures in the 19th century. And
16:31
I have this real pain for wanting
16:33
to live back then because life, it
16:35
was slower. It was so much simpler.
16:38
It was no social media. You
16:41
know, nowadays, I'm sure people like Moonlight
16:43
probably end up with, you know,
16:45
their own Instagram and their own
16:48
Tiktoker. I'd be definitely
16:50
a Tiktoker. 20 to 30 second
16:52
video with an Irish lilt in
16:54
his voice would be magical. But
16:57
they didn't have that back then. And so they basically
17:00
they either went to the local pub or
17:03
they sat around the fire at night. There
17:05
was no radio and it was just at
17:07
the dawn of the second Industrial Revolution. And
17:09
what was happening is at the same time
17:11
that these Bush Rangers are starting to run
17:13
out of space. Yeah, the cities
17:15
are getting bigger. Steam engines
17:17
are now going in between cities. There's
17:20
a bloke in Germany called Carl
17:22
Benz. He's just invented
17:24
a two stroke motor that will
17:26
then become the engine for the very first
17:28
motor car as we know it. There's
17:31
a bloke over in a Canadian farmhouse called
17:33
Alexander Graham Bell. And he's mucking around with
17:36
this invention that will eventually transmit
17:38
his voice on a telephone. And
17:40
then you've got Thomas Edison, who's just invented
17:42
the photograph, the recoil plier, which is taken
17:45
off all around the world. And
17:47
he's now fiddling with something called the long lasting
17:49
electric light bulb. Wow. And you've got
17:51
all of these changes going on as well. So
17:53
the world is actually getting smaller. And that's
17:56
not what the Bush Rangers really want.
17:59
They like the fast. of Australia in the
18:01
empty spaces and suddenly... And they don't want
18:03
means for information to travel,
18:06
certainly. No. And so by the
18:08
time Moonlight is ready to
18:10
rob his very first bank, you've
18:13
got the telegraph operating all around Australia, particularly
18:15
up and down the East Coast. Within
18:18
moments, you get news from Melbourne
18:20
or Brisbane into these small outback
18:22
towns and suddenly the world's
18:24
alerted to the fact that there are criminals in
18:26
their midst. So in
18:28
the end, Moonlight, he's working
18:31
in Ballarat in a place called Mount
18:33
Edgerton and he robs the local
18:35
bank. He has another
18:37
friendship with a young man
18:39
called Bruin, who ends
18:41
up falling out with him. And
18:43
we don't know why, but we suspect that
18:46
Moonlight's friendship was incredibly intense.
18:49
The police go after him, but he escapes and
18:52
he jumps on a boat and flees
18:55
to Fiji, where he
18:57
fleeces a lot of people of their
18:59
fortunes, allegedly purchases an island of his
19:01
own for 30 quid, and
19:03
then decides to come back to Australia
19:05
and sails through this monstrous storm, skippering
19:08
a boat into Sydney Heads on Boxing
19:10
Day. He's soon arrested, not
19:13
long after that, brought back to Melbourne
19:15
and sentenced to jail for 10 years
19:17
and ends up in Pentridge. And he's
19:19
there roughly at the same time as
19:21
Ned Kelly is serving one of his
19:23
sentences for stealing a horse. So
19:25
it's likely that the two crossed paths,
19:27
but more importantly, Captain
19:30
Moonlight comes across a young guy
19:32
called James Nesbitt or Jim Nesbitt.
19:36
And they become
19:38
not just best friends, but
19:40
soulmates. And as
19:42
the rest of the world has speculated down
19:45
the track, lovers as well. Nesbitt
19:48
came from a broken home. His
19:50
father was drunk. He was always
19:52
fighting with Nesbitt's mother. And
19:55
Nesbitt was clearly looking for a strong father
19:57
figure in his life. And he's coming back.
20:00
across Captain Moonlight in
20:02
Pentridge. And Moonlight was a troublesome prisoner
20:06
in Pentridge. Pentridge was the prison
20:08
in Australia. It was the darkest
20:10
hellhole. There was one guy
20:12
there who acted as the part-time hangman.
20:14
Oh, yes. We've heard about him. Yes. But
20:16
so he's also a prisoner. Yeah. Yeah. And
20:18
his party trick was to catch rats
20:20
in the jail yard and then skewer
20:23
them on basically your old, your average
20:25
rat kebab and cook
20:27
them over coals. Not many other people,
20:29
not many people took him up on his offer, but he
20:31
seemed to relish the meal. It was
20:33
probably the best bit of protein he had actually in that
20:36
prison. Probably the freshest bit of protein, that's
20:38
for sure. Now, was Moonlight calling himself
20:40
Captain Moonlight at this stage? Yeah.
20:42
He called him, he called himself Captain Moonlight
20:44
when he rocked the bank in Ballarat in
20:47
about 1870. So he came up with that himself,
20:50
didn't he? Yeah. But look, the
20:52
origins of Moonlight and it's spelled
20:54
M-O-O-N-L-I-T-E. They
20:57
go back because there was a Captain
20:59
Moonlight during some of the Protestant
21:01
Catholic wars in Northern Ireland at the
21:03
time. There was also a Moonlight,
21:06
a nickname of a prisoner in Pentridge at the time.
21:08
So we're not too sure how and
21:11
why he took it, but he
21:13
had signed a note saying, just rob
21:15
the bank and then you're sincerely Captain
21:17
Moonlight, as polite as
21:19
ever. And then people knew him
21:21
and he was an enormous
21:23
figure for the time during his trial in
21:26
Victoria. It was front page
21:28
news. Tens of thousands of people would
21:31
flock the streets just to see the latest
21:33
edition of the newspaper. There
21:35
was no radio obviously. So the only information
21:38
they could get with the newspaper delivery boys
21:40
shouting at the headlines all of the time.
21:43
And in a way, it was
21:45
a little bit like the gangsters
21:48
in LA and
21:50
New York and in the
21:52
underworld in Melbourne and Sydney suddenly
21:55
getting their own Instagram accounts
21:57
and they're all becoming celebrities.
22:00
And a lot of these Bush rangers were
22:03
celebrated and there was a big debate going
22:05
on in society about why
22:07
are we giving these criminals
22:10
hero status? You know, why do
22:12
we worship them? And there's a
22:14
really interesting thing that happened during the trial
22:16
of their life in Sydney after
22:19
a shootout with the police. And a
22:22
guy writes to a newspaper and he says, I don't
22:25
know what's going on with the world these
22:27
days where the newspapers are full of stories
22:29
in great detail about these criminals, these Bush
22:31
rangers. I get up
22:33
in the morning to go and get the paper
22:35
to read about it. And my two daughters have
22:37
already rushed outside and got the newspaper and won't
22:39
give it to me until I've devoured every word.
22:42
And so you can see the celebrity sort
22:44
of status already kicking in. And the stories
22:46
were really flamboyant too, weren't they? The way they
22:48
wrote in papers at that time was
22:51
really colourful. I love going through the
22:54
old newspapers and just not even reading
22:57
the articles I'm supposed to be researching,
22:59
but also the letters to the editor
23:01
section, because that gives you a
23:04
great insight into people's thinking at the
23:06
time. And they're
23:08
very prurient, they're very rigid
23:11
in their views, very conservative. I
23:13
mean, this is a very
23:16
conservative sexual era as well. We're
23:18
talking about the Queen Victoria era.
23:22
Relationships between men are
23:24
seen as blasphemous, let alone between
23:27
women. And yet this has always
23:30
been lying at the crux of the
23:33
relationship between Captain Moonlight and James
23:35
Nesbitt and some of the other younger men that
23:37
he met along the line. A
23:40
lot of speculation over the last century
23:42
was he Australia's first and possibly only
23:45
gay Bush rager. And
23:48
that seems to have come a lot out
23:50
of the relationship. Well, I think it's partly
23:53
why we never read that much about him
23:55
in our Bush Ranger books when we were
23:57
kids, that the history... historians
24:00
of the time decided that his relationship
24:02
with James Nesbitt was just a little
24:04
bit too much for readers of the
24:07
era. And there was
24:09
a lot of self-censorship going on. And
24:11
I think they deliberately erased Moonlight, a
24:13
lot out of the history. Yeah. I
24:16
can see that the gay Bush Ranger would not
24:18
have fitted into that glorification of Bush Rangers.
24:21
Well, it doesn't because our
24:23
view of Bush Rangers and outlaws,
24:26
they represent macho
24:28
machismo, it's all there. They're
24:31
laden with testosterone. The
24:34
reality was that a lot of them were just brutes.
24:37
You can imagine the smell of some of these guys. They
24:40
wouldn't have had a bath for months. They were hiding out
24:43
in the Bush. They would have sweated
24:45
all day on horseback. You
24:47
can imagine the stench. And
24:49
yet they were hailed in certain quarters,
24:52
particularly among working class people as
24:54
these heroic figures who were defying
24:57
authority. And by young women,
24:59
according to anecdote, which I find very easy to
25:01
believe. Yeah. Well, I
25:03
know maybe I'm still waiting
25:05
for someone to explain to me that that
25:07
whole issue of women who write to
25:10
prisoners in jail, but also
25:13
the ones on death row. I thought you were going
25:15
to say just the basic like, you know, women love
25:17
a bad boy. But no, you're right. That's a whole
25:19
other level. Women who are
25:21
into killers and that's ongoing. It's
25:24
incredible. It's not going. But I
25:26
was the death row in the US and Texas. You'll
25:29
find almost every inmate there in
25:31
correspondence with a lot of women. And
25:34
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25:36
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by the time moonlight gets out of
28:50
Petridge prison, it's 1879
28:53
he doesn't have a penny to scratch he
28:56
goes on the speaker circuit and delivers
28:59
these lectures and you know, we talk about
29:01
the lack of entertainment back then while Getting
29:04
a lecturer to a small country town
29:07
Would attract five six hundred people on a Saturday
29:09
night and they'd all pay a penny each
29:12
and made all cram into the local pub
29:14
into the dining area and moonlight
29:16
it walk in in a in the best suit
29:18
that money could buy No
29:20
one knows where he was getting this cash from
29:22
at that stage and he
29:24
would deliver a two-hour lecture impromptu
29:26
without notes Beautifully said
29:28
talking about the evils of the justice
29:30
system and how prisoners weren't being rehabilitated
29:34
Shocking conditions. I mean no one really
29:36
cared. No, but it's juicy It's juicy
29:38
stuff to hear a bloke from Petridge
29:41
tell you what's really going on in there and
29:43
what? I saw yeah, you've got an
29:45
insider's account but the police
29:47
were harassing him and So
29:49
he felt as though he couldn't walk down the street
29:52
without some of the troopers stopping him So
29:54
he decided to leave Victoria and Melbourne where
29:56
he was so he along
29:58
with four or five other young men
30:00
who, well, basically his gang,
30:02
I guess you could call his posse.
30:05
They didn't ride because they, he was the
30:07
only one who could ride a horse. They
30:10
walked from Melbourne up to
30:12
the border with the colony of New South
30:14
Wales and then followed the Murray River along
30:17
until they got to Gundagai, just outside Gundagai
30:19
to a place called Walter Badgery, which is
30:21
a very big sheep station there. Thousands
30:24
of acres and
30:26
they went looking for work. And
30:29
in the cold, gloomy, rainy night, the
30:31
owner of the station came out and said, no, I don't
30:34
have work for people like you. Move on. They
30:36
went back up in the hills, spent a
30:38
very damp night as it continued to pour rain and
30:40
moonlight turned to his guys and said, let's
30:43
take the station. That's ours. We need
30:45
to eat. So I think his
30:47
pride had been hurt that he hadn't been able to
30:50
find work for these young men around him as well.
30:52
And he was very obsessed with this code
30:54
of honor that he lived by, that a
30:56
man had to be chivalrous and he had
30:58
to have an honor and rules to his
31:01
life. So he was embarrassed and humiliated. So
31:04
the next morning they went down and
31:06
stole guns and staged a siege and
31:09
took over the station for about three days
31:11
and people kept coming through, through the gates
31:13
and seeing what was going on and they have to take
31:15
a few more hostages. And in the end, they had about
31:17
40 people hostage
31:19
inside this old farmhouse. And
31:21
that's when the troopers arrived and
31:24
there were a series of shootouts and showdowns that
31:27
took place over the coming 12 hours. And
31:31
eventually in one of the crossfire
31:33
of one of these great shootouts, a
31:35
trooper was shot dead. He'd
31:38
take days to die from the lead poisoning
31:40
from the bullet. And James
31:43
Nesbitt, moonlight watched as
31:45
the bullet splintered the glass of one of the
31:47
huts that they were hiding in and
31:50
entered the temple into his brain. And
31:52
when the police arrived, they
31:55
found moonlight cradling James
31:57
Nesbitt in his arms and kissing
31:59
him. passionately as though he could sort of bring
32:01
him back to life and he was just
32:04
lying there, you know dead in his arms and more
32:06
like they they all say all of the accounts
32:09
from the police at that time whether
32:11
he was a completely shattered man that he'd
32:14
lost the love of his life and he
32:16
cradled Nesbit's body for some time before the
32:19
police hauled him away. Another
32:21
young boy that was in part of
32:23
his posse had also been shot dead. So
32:26
Moonlight and the last remaining members of his gang
32:28
were put on a train and taken to Sydney
32:30
for a show trial because
32:32
the government of the time the colony
32:35
had claimed that there were no more Bushrages
32:37
and then suddenly they'd been embarrassed by this
32:40
massive shootout. It's
32:43
hard to sort of really quantify just
32:45
how compelling people found this and it
32:47
wasn't just in Australia it was global.
32:50
You know the reports of the trial
32:52
reached the New York newspapers they filled
32:55
pages in the London newspapers as well.
32:58
He was a global sensation and
33:00
at the time Ned Kelly was still at
33:02
large in Victoria so suddenly this
33:05
nightmare it sort of reappeared for
33:07
the authorities having assured
33:09
everyone that crime was on the
33:11
on the downturn and the Bush Ranger era
33:13
was well and truly over and
33:15
you had this man moonlight in the
33:18
dock and he's in the
33:20
dock and during his trial and
33:22
he delivers these astonishing speeches. You know
33:25
it's like a Greek old philosopher or
33:27
orator he just up there on his
33:29
feet just talking for half
33:32
an hour to an hour without a break and
33:35
people just found it incredibly compelling but
33:37
he was found guilty and I don't think there's any doubt
33:39
that he was going to be found guilty. He was
33:42
found guilty of murder. Of murdering the
33:44
trooper who had died. They
33:46
claimed the bullet that killed the trooper
33:48
had come from Moonlight's gun but
33:51
you know what you're talking
33:53
about 1879 1880 there's no
33:55
ballistics there's no homicide detectives
33:58
you know it's just. their
34:00
say against the Bushrages say? Yeah,
34:02
but I guess given that he'd already been convicted
34:05
once, he'd done jail time and had
34:07
got out and taken
34:09
up crime again would have been an embarrassment too,
34:11
wouldn't it? Yeah, it was. And
34:14
they just, the authorities didn't like me. They
34:16
didn't like what he represented because he was
34:18
intelligent for a start and he
34:20
could hold an argument with them and in
34:22
many cases embarrass judges
34:24
and lawyers because he was
34:27
so knowledgeable and so good at public
34:29
speaking. In January 20, in
34:32
1880, he was led to the
34:34
gallows and that's where he finally
34:36
met my favorite character out of this incredible
34:39
tale that spans that 19th
34:41
century, a guy called
34:43
Nosy Bob, who was the state
34:45
executioner. His real name was
34:47
Robert Rice Howard, but everyone
34:49
called him Nosy because he'd been made the
34:52
state executioner in the 1860s. He'd
34:54
been a cab driver. Cabs back
34:56
in the 1860s were horse
34:58
driven, obviously, with a little carriage
35:01
on the back and they called handsome
35:03
cabs. And one day
35:05
he was kicked by, the horse kicked him
35:07
with its rear leg and took his
35:09
nose off. And so
35:11
Nosy Bob had this great big hole in the middle of
35:13
his face. I don't know if you've seen that video
35:16
game or the TV series just made it
35:18
fall out, where the
35:21
ghoul has an absolute hole right
35:23
in the middle of his face. That's
35:25
Nosy Bob. Wow. One of
35:27
the journalists when he met him described Nosy
35:29
as being spider legged, arms
35:31
like a gorilla, a flat face without
35:33
a nose and huge feet. So
35:36
he wasn't the best looking guy
35:38
around, but he'd been made state
35:40
executioner and he became
35:42
my favorite character out of this
35:44
whole story because he's such a rich
35:47
and interesting guy. And
35:50
you don't get anyone like him these days. No nose.
35:53
The executioners were always regarded
35:55
as pariahs in society. Nosy
35:58
Bob loved having a beard. He'd go down to his
36:01
local hotel. Whenever
36:03
he had a glass of beer, the publican would
36:05
smash the glass on the floor so that
36:07
no one could ever have their lips touch the
36:10
glass that the state executioner had
36:12
drunk from. That's
36:15
how he was seen. Now, he had a wife and
36:17
he had two young daughters that he doted on. And
36:20
for a man who was an expert at
36:24
turning off the lights in
36:26
the eyes of all of these daughters, he
36:28
was actually great at bringing life into the
36:30
world because he was a fastidious gardener. He
36:33
bred hulks and pigs. And
36:36
he's just an extraordinary character. I'm looking
36:38
at illustrations of him from the day. And
36:40
yeah, you're right. It's the girl. Yeah.
36:43
It's the girl, isn't it? Yeah. It's
36:45
terrifying. And he terrified people. People, women would be walking
36:47
their kids down the street. They'd see Nosy Bot walk
36:50
into him after he'd had one too many beers at the
36:52
local park. And they just crossed the street
36:54
and hide from him. And this
36:56
was the first meeting between these two, but it
36:58
seemed as though that they were destined to meet
37:00
because Nosy had
37:02
been a hangman for 20 years and
37:04
there was a real science behind hanging
37:06
people. You had to lubricate
37:09
the rope, soap it up, stretch it,
37:12
because then you had to weigh the
37:14
person that you were hanging so
37:16
you could figure out the drop. But
37:19
Nosy Bob had to do all of the
37:21
work in preparing. But
37:24
he didn't weigh Moonlight, but he had already received
37:26
all of the details and they took him
37:28
to the gallows and there
37:30
were about 40 people allowed in, including
37:32
the editor of what was then called
37:35
the Bulletin Magazine, J.F. Archibald, who the
37:38
Archibald Prize is Australia's biggest art
37:40
prize. It's named after money
37:42
that he donated to keep that running. And
37:46
he writes at length about this
37:48
trial and also about the hanging
37:50
itself and how most
37:53
of the judiciary, the top lawyers
37:55
and the top politicians, there
37:57
was almost a fight among them to get tickets to get
37:59
it. in to see the hanging outside
38:02
the prison. There were 10,000 people
38:04
estimated to be on the streets, all
38:06
waiting for that moment when he dropped and
38:09
the sign went up out the front of the
38:11
prison that the execution had been carried out. It
38:15
was just a few months later that Ned Kelly
38:17
was then hunted down in court with Glen Rowan,
38:19
taken back to Melbourne and then eventually hanged as
38:22
well. And that kind of put a shadow over
38:24
the whole Moonlight story as well. But
38:27
he was certainly, for that hero,
38:29
Moonlight was among the most notorious
38:32
bushrangers Australia had ever seen. And
38:34
such an interesting character. So I
38:36
guess that would account for why, as
38:38
I said earlier, I remember as a
38:40
kid, songs and things about Captain Moonlight,
38:42
but so much so that I thought he
38:44
was just kind of a character, a fairy
38:47
tale character. I didn't realize he was a real person,
38:49
but now I realize it
38:51
was his flamboyance, for whatever better word, I
38:53
think maybe, that made him so memorable,
38:55
but at the same time, a bit
38:59
could have made the authorities fearful of him. Yeah, I
39:01
think that's one of the two key reasons. And the other
39:03
one being that he
39:06
was probably gay. We
39:08
don't know for sure, but there are
39:10
letters that he wrote. And the most
39:12
interesting thing about him is what he
39:14
wrote in the final night of
39:16
his life. I mean, he sat there with a
39:18
candle in his death cell at
39:20
Darlinghurst jail. And in his
39:23
own handwriting, using a fountain pen, spent
39:26
most of that night writing letters to people
39:28
all around the world, thanking them for their
39:31
assistance over the years. And
39:33
they're amazing. When you, I had to go into
39:35
the archives to have a look at them and
39:38
to read the file, you have to put
39:40
on these white gloves so that you don't,
39:42
your dirty fingerprints, don't get over the originals.
39:45
And it really brings a bottle up
39:47
to my throat. I got very emotional when
39:49
I was reading them because I looked at
39:51
these pages and I could
39:53
actually see where he'd been pressing his
39:56
fountain pen hard on the paper
39:58
and the ink had smudged a little bit. And
40:00
then later in the night, as he gets more tired,
40:03
the letters start to slay it a little bit
40:05
as his hand gets tired. So
40:07
you're almost there watching this bloke,
40:10
you know, write basically his last
40:12
memoirs. One of the letters
40:14
he writes is to Jim Nesbitt's mother. And
40:17
he says to her, he
40:19
actually uses an extract from a
40:22
poem, this English poet Felicia Hemmons.
40:25
And she wrote a poem about a lost lover. And
40:28
there's a real clue in all of that. And
40:30
he says, I have won my fame from the
40:33
breath of wrong and my soul hath risen for
40:35
thy glory strong. Now call me
40:37
hence by thy side to be, the world thou
40:39
leavest has no place for me. Give
40:42
me my home on thy noble heart. Well
40:44
have we loved, let us both depart. And
40:48
he can actually pick that up out
40:50
of his memory. And here's a bloke who's going to die
40:52
the next morning on the
40:55
gallows. And he actually
40:57
has that brain that allows him to
40:59
sum it up large slabs of an
41:01
epic poem. And he sends
41:04
it to James Nesbitt's mother. And he also includes
41:06
in that letter, a lock of hair
41:08
that he took from Jim, that he
41:10
kept around his finger for a while,
41:12
almost like a ring to remind himself
41:14
of Jim. And he also stated
41:16
that his trial that after he
41:19
was executed, he wanted to be buried with
41:21
Jim. So the two of them could
41:23
be together. The authorities were having none of
41:26
that, none of that. They were never going
41:28
to give in to moonlight whatsoever. So
41:31
he was buried in a basically
41:33
an unmarked grave just outside of Sydney.
41:36
And it took a century before some
41:39
activists actually read about his trial
41:42
and decided to lobby the government
41:44
to allow him to be disinterred
41:47
and taken back to where James's body
41:49
was. Now they still don't know where
41:51
James is buried these days. The mists
41:53
of Thailand as soon as they're raised.
41:56
Most of the Bushragers, bank robbers, all of those
41:58
sort of criminals. We usually buried
42:00
in unmarked graves. No one
42:02
really put up a sign for them because
42:04
the authorities decided it was best that everyone
42:07
forget them. Well, I mean, we've lost Ned
42:09
Kelly's head. That's how much people didn't want
42:11
to memorialize them. They
42:13
lost a lot of heads back
42:15
then. There was Frederick Deming who
42:17
was a Jack the Ripper suspect
42:20
who I've also written about. His
42:22
head went missing as well in that great
42:24
stuff up at the old Melbourne jail when
42:26
they were, and Pinchridge as well. So there's
42:29
been a lot of mix ups like that, but the fact that
42:31
he took the time to write
42:33
to Jim Nesbitt's mother and he
42:35
talks about, please regard me as much of
42:37
a son to you as Jim was. You
42:40
don't get Bushrangers writing like that. I mean,
42:42
the biggest equivalent we've got is probably Ned
42:45
Kelly's derildary letter. And
42:47
even that is kind of regarded as a
42:49
bit sus that maybe someone, one of the
42:51
other Bushrangers wrote it for him who was
42:53
more literate. So to actually
42:56
have a Bushranger in his own hand, writing
42:58
about his memories about the people who
43:00
helped him over the years and how
43:03
he was completely misjudged is unprecedented
43:05
almost. I mean, you don't get literate
43:07
criminals. No, you don't usually. Usually that's
43:09
part of, I think, the reason why
43:11
they end up being criminals myself. But
43:14
was he still in touch with his family? Did he
43:16
still have any relationship with his parents? The
43:18
parents were in New Zealand. Yeah, they'd
43:20
moved there. And his father, having been
43:22
a high ranking official in Northern Ireland,
43:24
then became a lay preacher himself, a
43:26
pastor, and used to
43:29
look after on the Northern Ireland of New
43:31
Zealand. We've got
43:33
report. He wrote a letter, but it's been lost.
43:36
One of these letters were actually never sent
43:38
that he wrote, which is also one of
43:40
the great tragedies of Mooliad's life. He
43:42
spent all of his time and effort on it and the authorities
43:44
seized them and they were kept in a box. And
43:47
it wasn't until about 100 years later
43:49
that someone, researchers stumbled across them and
43:52
found them all there and perfectly preserved.
43:54
So did Mrs Nesbitt never get her letter? No,
43:57
it doesn't look like it. Oh, that's tragic. It
44:00
was printed in the newspapers, funnily enough. So there
44:02
was a fair bit of leaking going on by
44:04
the authorities, which you can't believe, can you? That
44:07
politicians and jail officials would have been leaking information
44:10
to the press. You start, I can't believe that.
44:12
There's no way, no, that would have happened. No
44:15
way, but at least hopefully she saw it there.
44:17
Yeah, well, you would think so. And I think
44:19
she was a woman who'd had a
44:21
lot of disappointments in her life. You know, she'd had
44:23
a husband who used to beat her, her
44:26
youngest son, Jim had run with a
44:28
gang and then been taken by moonlight
44:31
and then was killed in a shootout.
44:34
So things have never really looked up for the
44:36
early listeners, very poor part of Melbourne. I
44:39
mean, some of the tenements and the
44:41
slums that people were living in
44:43
on the outskirts of all the major metropolitan cities
44:45
around the world in the 1870s and 80s were
44:47
disgusting. They
44:49
were shameful. I mean, the
44:51
sewage systems were non-existent. The pollution
44:53
was incredible. The amount of rubbish
44:56
that used to pile up against
44:58
these homes. I mean, we
45:00
talk about third world conditions and that's what some
45:02
of these families were sort of growing up in.
45:04
And there was a lot of unemployment
45:06
around at the time as well. The
45:09
economies had been ravaged by a worldwide
45:11
recession. So a lot
45:13
of people couldn't find work. And so they,
45:15
at one stage when moonlight and his gang
45:17
tried to escape Victoria and they went
45:20
on that long walk to the Murray River,
45:23
they shot a koala because
45:25
they were so desperate for food. I wouldn't think
45:27
there'd be a lot of meat on a koala.
45:30
No, a bit of flat. All they do
45:32
is sit there eating gum leaves off gum
45:34
trees all day. So they're
45:37
effectively stoned for 24 hours because
45:39
the eucalyptus makes them high. And
45:42
apparently the eucalyptus then goes through the
45:44
rest of the body. So it's
45:47
quite a rancid taste apparently, but
45:49
that's how desperate they were. I
45:51
think they may have also shot a few sheep along the
45:53
way too, a few stray sheep
45:55
along the way from the farms. But
45:58
that was the era that these people were sort of. living
46:00
in. And it was just before,
46:02
you know, the second industrial
46:05
revolution brought all these benefits, you know,
46:07
brought the electric light bulb into the
46:09
home. So they were on that sort
46:11
of like crossover point in history. Really
46:13
fascinating time. And brought a lot of
46:15
employment to Australia as well. So these
46:18
guys were just kind of in the middle, weren't they?
46:20
They were in between the gold rush and the next
46:22
boom. So they're just kind of wandering around. And
46:25
you see that with
46:27
people like Ned Kelly and a lot of
46:29
the other outlaws, let's call them in Australia
46:31
at the time. These are the last days.
46:34
These are the last great days of these
46:36
guys hiding out in the bush because now
46:38
the troopers could receive a telegraph telling them
46:40
that a crime had been committed within
46:43
minutes. They could be on their horses tracking them
46:45
down. People often
46:47
complain about Australian history.
46:50
It's almost as though we're embarrassed by it, that
46:52
at least white Australian history is only a little
46:55
over 250 years old. But
46:58
we always go, well, we just don't
47:00
have the epic figures, historical figures
47:02
that Europe had and UK, US
47:05
had the revolutionary war and then
47:07
the civil war. When you actually dig
47:09
a little bit deeper, Australia's got
47:11
cast of characters that are just
47:13
astonishing. And Captain Moonlight
47:16
has never received really the attention
47:18
that he always deserves. We
47:20
wouldn't know that much about him if we
47:22
hadn't have come across those letters because
47:25
that's what really starts and
47:27
ends. The letters that he wrote, particularly on
47:29
the last night of his life, 19th of
47:32
January, 1880,
47:34
he was sitting in his death cell in Darlinghurst jail and there
47:36
was a half moon hanging in the sky at 10 o'clock at
47:39
night. He would have been in this small
47:41
cold brick room there
47:43
with the candle burning away,
47:46
writing all of these letters that he had
47:48
no idea would actually end up being read
47:50
by hundreds of thousands of people over
47:52
the coming century. It's quite an astonishing story.
48:00
Thank you to our guest today, Gary Linnell.
48:02
There's a link in the show notes and
48:04
on our Facebook page, as always, to help
48:06
you buy your copy of his book, Moonlight,
48:09
the tragic love story of Captain Moonlight
48:11
and the bloody end of the Bushrangers.
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48:17
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