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This is the authentic sex

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podcast and real life conversations about

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sex, pleasure, and relationships. I'm

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your host Juliet Palace. Welcome

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to

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episode number one hundred

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and forty five of the Authentic Sex

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podcast. My name is Juliette

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Allen. I'm a sexologist and

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sex and relationship coach. And

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today, I am joined by the beautiful

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Shanye Marie. Shanye is

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a mythic embodiment guide with fifteen

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music experience in the field of sexuality

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teachings and erotic dance. Cheney

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guides women to inhabit their bodies' nature

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transmitting a deep and rich opening

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towards the embrace of an ancient feminine

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wisdom held inside the body

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of women. Cheney was

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on the podcast on

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episode episode number eighty three. That

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episode was titled The Magic of erotic

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Dance and Worshiping Men. And

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she's back today and we just had the most

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beautiful conversation. We

1:04

spoke about erotic

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imprinting. What is erotic

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imprinting? what is Shanye's definition

1:12

of it? And how does it impact us

1:14

via our lovers? Yeah.

1:17

A really interesting topic and something

1:19

that I have myself spoken about,

1:21

but it's really good to get Shanye's perspective

1:23

on this. We also spoke about

1:26

the path of erotic love. What

1:28

is that? What does that mean? how

1:30

can we open our hearts in particular

1:32

as a woman to love

1:35

and to sex and to

1:37

our lovers? We spoke

1:39

about we went on a bit of a tangent, and it was

1:41

a really beautiful one. We we spoke about

1:44

Cheney's experience of termination of

1:46

a pregnancy and how that impact her

1:48

and how she moved through that, which

1:50

was a really big personal share.

1:52

And I'd really honor her and thank

1:54

her for sharing about that. We

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spoke about the balance of being a

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mother and balancing business

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and and the longing to be mother

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to

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This this episode is just full

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of really

2:07

a really beautiful conversation and

2:10

beautiful wisdom shared by Shanye.

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So

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I do really hope that you enjoy

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welcome back to Authentic Sex. It's

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been a while. Thank you for having

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me back. It's a pleasure. I'm

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looking forward to this chat with you.

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I had we had you on I'm

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just having to look up my notes on episode

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eighty three. which feels like

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a lifetime ago and it was called the

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magic of erotic dance and worshiping

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men.

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So if

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you're listening and you love what Cheney

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has to

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share with you, then you can go back and

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send to that episode too if you haven't already.

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So today, we're talking

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about something a little different

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Well,

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it's kind of on the same

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same

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wavelength in a way, but I'm gonna

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be talking about erotic imprinting,

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which I'm I'm so fascinated to

5:17

hear your views on.

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But before we launch in, I'd love you

5:21

to just introduce yourself and talk a bit

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about who you are, what

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you're doing in the world. Just

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share a bit with everyone listening.

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Hello, everybody. So

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I'm Shannon Marie, and I

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I'm really passionate about

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women's embodiment, women

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embracing

5:42

their nature as

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the

5:44

feminine or as females.

5:46

And I run

5:49

courses and retreats. And

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really my work is very,

5:55

I guess, for lack of a better term,

5:58

like, shamanic

5:59

or kind of depths depths psychology

6:02

work where we're really descending

6:04

into the body.

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and through the unconscious

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to really, like, gather the

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treasures that are that are held in those

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those deep back

6:14

parts of our psyche in our being.

6:18

Yeah. Cool.

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And you're located in Baron

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Bay in Australia with the women. Yeah. I'm in

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Baron Bay. Most of my works online,

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Accenture Retreat. Yeah.

6:28

Cool. Okay. So

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tell me a bit about erotic imprinting.

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I know okay. So I

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was saying to you before we started recording.

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I went on to your game yesterday and had

6:39

a little look see to see what

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you are currently exploring and

6:44

sharing with the world. And you

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recently did a post that got

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a lot of attention and it was

6:50

about erotic imprinting. And

6:53

I'd love to just hear you share more about

6:55

that. What do you mean by that?

6:57

And, yeah, let's explore

7:00

and dive into that topic. Yeah.

7:03

So the erotic imprinting piece is

7:05

like, it's something that kind of done

7:07

the rounds a bit. Yeah. But

7:10

the way it's done the rounds is this kind

7:12

of it's it's

7:13

kind of enveloped in this in this

7:16

fear of a

7:18

very puritanical, like, oh,

7:20

if you if a woman has sex with a

7:22

man, then she receives that man into

7:24

her and she can never get rid of him. Mhmm.

7:26

It's like that kind of flag. And so

7:28

you should be very careful about who you have

7:30

sex with and you know, that kind of

7:32

narrative. Mhmm. And there

7:34

is some very

7:36

loose evidence

7:38

coming out that the

7:40

female body does would, like, hold

7:43

on to DNA --

7:45

Mhmm.

7:45

-- from lovers?

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No. It's not it's not saying

7:50

that we have that enough forever.

7:53

And it's not saying that it's only

7:55

just love is it could be like the male DNA

7:58

of of a baby that you of

8:00

a fetus that you held -- Mhmm.

8:02

-- whether that was miscarried. there's

8:05

there's no different things, but there's also something

8:07

that's being researched in nature as

8:09

well. So we've got this kind of DNA

8:11

aspect of where we receive the

8:14

DNA through someone else, through the

8:16

the the lover's seed.

8:20

And then there's, like, yogurt teachings that talk

8:22

about, like, we hold it for seven years.

8:24

And I I think it's not as clear cut

8:26

as this. I think that it

8:28

really probably depends on

8:30

whatever

8:31

the all chemical nature of

8:33

the of the union has been and how

8:35

deeply that person has seated you and

8:37

you know, I I don't know. It's it's very

8:39

much kind of wrapped up in

8:41

the mystery still that pace, but there

8:43

is there is kind of science

8:46

starting to starting to explore this.

8:49

But

8:49

then what I'm also really interested

8:52

in with this is the nervous more the nervous

8:54

system in print. So when

8:56

we receive someone, like

8:58

like females, we're very

9:00

receptive. We are the receptacle. We

9:02

have a

9:03

journey. and the journey is the negative

9:05

point.

9:05

It's the deepest,

9:08

darkest, negative

9:09

point leading into the womb space

9:12

where, like, creation is

9:14

is formulated. Yeah.

9:17

Mhmm. And and this is a very kind of

9:19

mystical frame when you

9:21

look at contract

9:21

teachings and

9:23

teachings around, like, what

9:25

the what the feminine and the female

9:28

beholds. Mhmm. So when we

9:31

take

9:31

into consideration that we're receptacles and

9:33

that we're very hard connected,

9:35

and then this is the this is

9:37

what I see is

9:38

the the problem with, like,

9:40

I

9:40

guess, sexual liberation when it's

9:43

really promoting hypersexuality without

9:46

at work. Mhmm. It's like

9:48

all sex, all orgasms, a

9:51

lot of explosive orgasms,

9:54

really hyperactive. and

9:56

just, like, almost, like, flipping.

9:58

Like, who cares? Like,

9:59

I just wanted to fuck, like, this

10:02

real kind of loose

10:04

attitude. And

10:05

it doesn't take into consideration this

10:07

really tender heart of the

10:09

female and the feminine heart --

10:11

Mhmm. -- that bonds

10:14

and we're designed to bond

10:16

-- Mhmm.

10:16

-- with who we receive

10:18

into us and how deeply we receive --

10:20

Mhmm. -- beings into us. And

10:23

so you know, and and again, this is

10:25

like such a varying degree thing because

10:27

if you're having, like,

10:29

a sexual interaction with a person for

10:31

a long period of time, and it's a

10:34

very deep and cosmic and,

10:36

you

10:36

know, if you're very open and,

10:38

like, it's very heart centered, then you're

10:40

going to be penetrated

10:41

more deeply than someone you

10:43

had maybe a one night

10:45

stand with or or,

10:46

you

10:47

know, one one experience with this.

10:49

It's gonna be a very different imprint

10:52

And

10:52

and it's really like who we receive and to

10:54

us leaves a shape. They

10:56

leave a shape

10:58

inside of us. and

11:00

this is actually really beautiful.

11:02

It's not something to be

11:04

like, oh, I don't want like their

11:06

shape and me. It's like he

11:08

like, oh, this is one of the most beautiful

11:10

qualities of woman

11:13

that we receive so deeply and

11:15

we receive the shape of

11:17

others inside of us and that and that

11:19

shape imprints us. And

11:21

it's like an imprint and embodied

11:24

memory.

11:26

And I think that this really

11:28

speaks to this beautiful piece around, like, the

11:30

feminine as weave is that this mythic

11:32

piece. that we elect the weavers and what

11:34

we receive and to us we multiply --

11:36

Mhmm. -- through the shape that is

11:38

created inside of us through our

11:40

nervous system through what,

11:42

you know, whatever kind of spiritual kind of frame

11:44

you

11:44

wanna put on it as well. Yeah.

11:47

And and

11:48

and we receive and then

11:51

we we we

11:51

it's almost like we we then multiply

11:54

an M and A and become

11:56

that

11:56

shape that we've been, like, almost

11:58

like

11:59

there's there's a lot of talk around, like, the masculine

12:01

is the blueprint. So they're like

12:04

seeding us with the blueprint and that

12:06

blueprint and we're holding and we're almost

12:08

like becoming pregnant with in

12:10

some way. And

12:11

we're we're faring I'm assuming

12:14

you're referring here to, like,

12:16

sexual interactions between

12:19

females and males like

12:21

sisters. Well, that's a fundamental,

12:23

but I think that obviously,

12:25

like, the more I I know that you've done

12:27

a lot of this work and the more that

12:29

you started to transcend,

12:31

like, there's that fundamental kind

12:34

of make aspect there that

12:36

is, like, the seed imprints the

12:39

yoni. Yeah. There's there's part.

12:40

And then there's the part where we move more

12:42

into energy body where it's like

12:45

my my,

12:47

like, penetrative energy

12:49

could

12:49

really imprint the imprint another

12:51

woman. Yeah. that

12:52

way, and especially if I was if I

12:55

was enveloping with her

12:57

in a way that was really, like,

12:58

opening us through Urus and

13:01

existing. Yeah.

13:02

I'm the same with the man. Like, it's it's

13:04

really like a a transcends that we have

13:06

that kind of fundamental base layer of,

13:08

like, this is Covenous

13:10

goes inside the vagina. He ejaculates.

13:13

There's like that physical

13:14

kind of

13:16

space, but then

13:17

yeah. then

13:18

then the more subtle it becomes, the

13:20

more transcendent it becomes. And so

13:22

it's it's less about these kind of like foundational

13:25

rules of like male and female

13:27

and being

13:28

a vagina, and it becomes much more kind

13:30

of intricate. And that's why I say, like varying

13:32

degrees. There's so much very there's no kind

13:34

of a black and white rule to this thing.

13:36

It's just we're just looking for these

13:38

patterns, I guess, and and seeing

13:40

them. And then also, like, really listening to

13:42

our bodies. Mhmm. And the

13:44

amount of woman that I've listened

13:46

to and

13:47

also my own heart -- Mhmm. --

13:49

around, like, oh, well, like, I

13:51

received that person really deeply into

13:53

me and I pretended it

13:55

it didn't touch me as much as it did

13:57

-- Mhmm.

13:58

--

13:59

because I was honored and

14:02

I wanted wanted to, you

14:04

know, it's almost like my mind was like

14:06

overriding. And then as I, like, fell to my to

14:08

my body deep, I was like, oh,

14:11

like, I'm really being impacted by

14:13

that connection. Mhmm. And

14:15

I and I'm not feeling it. Like,

14:17

I'm avoiding feeling the

14:19

truth of ads. And I think the more that

14:21

women you

14:23

know, I

14:23

think that's why that post was so popular

14:26

So me women were like, thank you for saying this

14:28

because it's almost like as a taboo. We're

14:30

not allowed to talk about this

14:32

thing around like woman

14:34

receiving or people receiving

14:36

or how deeply affected

14:38

anybody is by the way by the

14:40

shapes that we make with other people. because

14:42

there's this piece around, like,

14:44

like, we're not just, like,

14:47

individuals in

14:48

an ecosystem. Like, we are

14:51

part of the ecosystem. And so

14:53

what we're touching, who we're touching,

14:55

who's touching us emotionally,

14:58

physically, spiritually, it

15:00

it's a weaving. We're all weaving together.

15:02

Mhmm.

15:02

And and I

15:05

think

15:05

that it's beautiful to have that awareness so that

15:07

we can consciously know what we're

15:09

weaving. Yeah. It

15:10

doesn't matter if you're like monogamous

15:12

or poly or any of it. It's like, oh,

15:14

I'm choosing to weave this

15:16

beautiful web. with

15:17

these people or with the with this within

15:20

this kind of dynamic.

15:22

Mhmm. And that's really that's

15:24

really precious and beautiful and

15:26

conscious You're not gonna do

15:28

that with my heart. Yeah.

15:30

So when for

15:33

for women in particular listening who

15:35

are having, like, some aha

15:37

moments of, like, oh, wow.

15:39

Like, yes. I feel this. I

15:41

feel what you're you're saying,

15:43

but In

15:45

the past, I've slept with

15:48

lovers who are

15:50

who

15:50

didn't feel good. and who afterwards

15:53

I felt like what I call like a bit of a sex

15:55

hangover, you know, when you like sleep with someone

15:57

and then it's all good in the moment. And then the

15:59

next day, you're just

15:59

like, it's like

16:02

kinda eating the worst takeaway,

16:03

and then you feel like shit. And then but

16:05

in the moment, that taste of pizza

16:07

tastes

16:07

so good. You know, like, so

16:10

I don't know where I'm going with this, but

16:12

how do how

16:13

do you recommend

16:15

women can

16:18

clear that

16:20

energy from them, from those

16:22

lovers or those

16:24

perhaps those unconscious choices that

16:26

we make I mean, I know myself as

16:28

a young woman. I slept

16:30

with a lot of different people. And up

16:32

to a certain point, I was

16:34

having so much fun, but I was receiving

16:37

men inside me that by

16:40

looking back, I didn't definitely

16:42

didn't feel connected to my heart at all. It

16:44

was just, like, your heart, I wanna

16:46

fuck you. Yeah. This is yeah.

16:48

We're running running

16:49

lust without the without the integrated

16:52

heart, which is something I really speak a lot to

16:54

in my courses. less than

16:56

desire is really powerful and beautiful as well. And

16:58

I feel that it can feel amazing. But if

17:00

it's disconnected from the heart,

17:02

then I then it can kind of keep us in

17:04

a loop of addiction. Mhmm.

17:06

Mhmm. I

17:08

think that let's go back to that how like,

17:11

let's let's touch on that in a moment of how one can connect

17:13

deeper into their

17:13

heart space. But let's I'd

17:16

love to hear what you work.

17:19

have

17:19

to share about, like

17:21

right

17:22

Yeah. Maybe

17:23

how to clear? Yeah.

17:26

Yeah. Yeah. So this,

17:26

like, the first thing is, like, we

17:29

have to really not see ourselves as

17:31

victims. It's, like, I

17:32

made a choice. to

17:34

and

17:36

sometimes we have to let the victim run

17:38

a bit like, oh, like the shame and

17:40

the the girl

17:41

and it's like, oh, I'm feeling that and we have

17:43

to allow that the time and space for them

17:45

to be there. But eventually, we wanna

17:47

come out of that space and be like, I

17:49

I chose that and I take responsibility

17:51

from what I chose. and then

17:53

the alchemy can really, really

17:55

start to happen. Mhmm. So when

17:58

we, like,

17:59

fully

17:59

responsible for our choices, then we can start

18:02

to look for what the gift and the lesson

18:04

is of that

18:05

experience. Mhmm. And then once we

18:07

start to find gift in the lesson, then

18:09

it can lift into the heart, where

18:12

is where a real alchemy starts

18:14

to starts to happen, where the

18:16

the the love starts to feel like

18:19

love and forgiveness. Like,

18:20

I forgive myself and I

18:22

forgive others and I like, that state of

18:24

forgiveness is what really, like,

18:26

like neutralizes -- Mhmm.

18:28

--

18:28

the experience out of the more kind of

18:31

denser

18:31

denser feelings. Mhmm.

18:34

so there's there's those pieces.

18:36

And I think that also

18:38

maybe, like, that that stage of,

18:40

like, we're where the shame

18:43

and the guilt is almost like the

18:44

digestion of it. Mhmm. It's like the you

18:46

know, like you said, like, you've had a night of,

18:49

like, shit takeaway. and it's like the

18:51

body has to

18:51

digest it to process it. And then there

18:54

is that digestion phase of

18:56

when it

18:56

let it digest, let it

18:59

metabolize, and try and forgive

19:01

yourself on the process so so it

19:03

starts to

19:03

lift out as well, like energetically

19:05

lift out as well

19:07

as digest through the

19:08

system. Now,

19:10

you know, as as

19:12

to become, like, fertile

19:14

for the soil, I guess. You know?

19:17

Yeah. So shit

19:19

shit it back into this. So

19:20

Pretty much. I

19:22

was like, do I say it? Let's

19:25

yeah. Let's just go ahead.

19:28

Let it let it digest,

19:30

you know. Like, it's like doing I don't know. Like, I

19:32

don't know if you've done Ayahuasca or anything,

19:34

but it's it's like that that process of, like,

19:36

when you're, like, digesting the medicine

19:38

-- Mhmm. -- it's like, oh, really

19:40

comes out and you're shitting and having,

19:42

like, a spiritual

19:43

experience through them. through

19:45

that process of the gut, you know.

19:48

Mhmm. So really and I think, you know,

19:50

often shame and guilt can really live down

19:51

there and, like, really be held

19:54

in those those organs as

19:56

well. So, yeah, like,

19:58

shitting it out, getting it out, letting it

19:59

digesting, letting it metabolize,

20:01

and then lifting it into the heart of like, oh,

20:03

I forgive myself and I can

20:06

see

20:06

the gift and I can see the lesson and the learning

20:09

and the experience. So that's a process. You know, it's not

20:11

like a one, you know, you tick it off.

20:13

It's like that that itself is a

20:15

bit of a medicine journey. Mhmm.

20:17

It's done. But

20:19

then there's also things that you can do to assess,

20:21

like, an physiology or wound

20:23

clearing or, you know, your blood rituals,

20:25

like, intention intention setting,

20:28

you know, energy work, Shamanic,

20:31

body work, you know, there's lots of

20:33

different, like, assistance tools,

20:36

I that you can you can do to help

20:38

really, like, move those more kind of

20:40

stagnant pieces -- Yeah. --

20:42

stopping pieces that don't wanna

20:44

don't wanna let go. Yeah. But I think, you

20:46

know, the mindset is really like, oh,

20:48

I take responsibility. And when we start

20:50

to really take responsibility for

20:53

what for our choices and that that

20:55

we have made and the choices that we're making

20:57

here on, that's a real big

20:59

game changer because it really takes us

21:01

out of that paradigm of, like,

21:03

opore me. Yeah. I

21:05

think that's a really good point to make.

21:07

I'm so glad you brought that up.

21:10

Yeah.

21:11

Great one.

21:12

And like you said, it takes time.

21:14

Like, it's not just like, oh, I'm I

21:16

listened to that podcast, and I did a journal

21:18

I journaled about it, and now I'm

21:21

Now I'm free. It it can

21:23

be a process. Yes. I

21:25

mean, there's been times especially with my

21:27

big heartbreak, you know, I had such a big

21:30

heartbreak.

21:30

And

21:31

and it was sometimes like

21:33

I'd even be just begging my

21:36

teacher, like, please tell me what to

21:37

do, give me the answer,

21:39

and there was no answer that she could give me

21:41

because I had to go on the journey. Mhmm. And

21:43

I think that this also brings me back to

21:45

this other piece around, like, one

21:47

of the big feminine initiation paths

21:51

probably the central piece actually

21:53

is this journey of heartbreak

21:55

and piercing through the heart. Mhmm.

21:58

And And these kinds of

21:59

things where we let someone into us

22:02

or it

22:02

might have been like someone that you're

22:04

really in love with. and

22:06

then you

22:06

broke up and you felt a lot of

22:09

pain about that, you know,

22:10

this this erotic love piece or

22:13

this, like, initiation of

22:15

the of the feminine heart is really about opening and

22:17

letting that that pain

22:19

and that lesson and that gift,

22:21

like, really pierce through from the

22:23

front to the back of the heart. Mhmm.

22:25

And then

22:28

then there's, like, a it's almost, like, what

22:30

my experience has been, like, a

22:32

woman emerges. out the other side of that.

22:34

Mhmm. And I

22:35

think

22:35

that that's for me personally,

22:38

that's one of the greatest gifts I've got from

22:40

this erotica printing piece

22:42

that I

22:42

had the DNA piece from

22:45

baby

22:45

that was never was -- Mhmm.

22:47

-- and also

22:49

the nervous system piece and the

22:52

psychological pieces of, like, really feeling, you

22:54

know, fucked

22:55

over. And then and

22:57

then

22:57

brewing all of that together it

23:00

appears through my heart and then on the other side of that

23:02

became became like I found that my newborn

23:05

come alive.

23:06

Was that when you say

23:08

the DNA piece from a baby that never was? Was

23:10

that a termination? Or Yes. That

23:13

was a that was a termination. Yeah.

23:15

And it was something that was really hard

23:17

for me to let

23:17

go of, and that

23:19

I felt for a long time.

23:21

you know,

23:22

like, it really felt. It was it was it

23:24

was a difficult time. And so

23:26

I think that that's where my curiosity around

23:29

this piece has really been spot on this

23:31

from from that journey for

23:33

me. And then talking

23:34

to the woman about it

23:36

and hearing that they also were having

23:38

similar experiences and yet no one was

23:40

talking about it.

23:43

it

23:44

It's a big one to chat

23:49

about because I get a lot of people

23:51

inboxing with me, women asking you actually to

23:53

speak more about termination and my

23:55

experience of termination. And because we haven't I haven't

23:57

really

23:57

got an episode on the pod this

23:59

podcast specifically

24:01

about about it. And I don't know whether this

24:03

is the time or the place to go into

24:05

it, but I'm glad that you brought it up

24:07

because I know that there's so many women

24:10

who have chosen termination and

24:12

then, yeah, all we've

24:14

all gone through our different journey

24:17

post termination

24:18

in healing or

24:20

dealing with how what what it brings

24:22

up for us. And

24:26

Yeah.

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dot com. That's JULIET

25:22

hyphen a double LEN

25:25

dot com. Yeah. How

25:27

did how did you email

25:29

through it? Big question. Yeah.

25:31

It's it's been

25:33

really, really massive for me. That one

25:35

in particular because I was at an

25:38

age where I chose my career.

25:40

Mhmm. And so for the last,

25:42

you know,

25:42

really, like, kicked up some pieces around,

25:45

like, this kind

25:45

of strong woman. Mhmm.

25:47

syndrome or

25:48

the strong woman pattern that is really

25:51

in our culture -- Mhmm. -- around, like,

25:54

choosing whether it's, like, subtle and

25:56

not so subtle, conditioning.

25:58

It's it's there

25:59

where women feel that

26:02

choosing their

26:03

career can almost be the

26:06

more noble path.

26:06

Mhmm. So I had a big journey with

26:08

that around, like, fuck. Like,

26:11

did I make the

26:12

wrong decision. Was I was

26:14

that just programming? And I and I

26:16

and, you know, there's been a lot of resolve

26:19

around that. ah

26:21

I

26:23

think that it certainly did get me

26:26

questioning around the programming that I

26:28

was

26:28

receiving from the culture. Mhmm.

26:31

And and the ways in

26:33

which I was disconnected from my own

26:36

longing.

26:37

And Yeah.

26:39

I mean, this is a really big -- Mhmm.

26:41

-- discussion. This is a really discussion. But

26:43

the there's definitely

26:48

I feel

26:48

that that whole process has been one of my

26:51

big life initiations as a as a

26:53

woman and as a teacher. Mhmm.

26:55

Actually,

26:59

Yeah.

26:59

Yeah. Yeah. We can leave it at that.

27:01

It it reminds me of what Jane

27:03

Howard calling teachers, which is

27:05

that every birth whether

27:08

it's, you know, full time birth

27:10

or a termination or a miscarriage or

27:12

an ectopic pregnancy, whatever it is,

27:14

is an initiation. and he's con

27:16

we have to consider it as a

27:19

birth.

27:21

So have you ever done

27:22

any of her courses? No.

27:25

She has a

27:28

really great one. It's called Shamanic

27:30

dimensions of pregnancy, and she's

27:32

actually doing it she does it every

27:34

November in Mollum, and I highly recommend

27:37

recommend

27:37

her. And in

27:39

that workshop, this is

27:41

I didn't plan this club with her workshop, but here

27:44

we go. You kind of go

27:46

through every single, you know, your first

27:48

bleed, the first time you had sex, the first time

27:50

you're pregnant, that, you know, whether

27:52

it went to full term or not.

27:54

And all your different pregnancies,

27:56

and there's often you find

27:58

like she helps you link up

27:59

the thread throughout the themes

28:02

throughout. And it's

28:04

amazing in doing that. I've done that

28:06

workshop twice, and I'll do it again

28:08

this year. It's

28:08

really helped me

28:11

understand why I am the way I

28:13

am. Starting at

28:14

probably

28:15

starting at my first bleed, but the

28:17

common thread that's gone through each experience.

28:20

Yeah. Really? Beautiful. Yeah.

28:23

Yeah. Well,

28:25

thanks for sharing about

28:26

your experience briefly. I didn't plan

28:28

on that, but I do think it's

28:31

valuable.

28:31

valuable to

28:32

hear and to not feel

28:35

alone in their experience of that.

28:37

And I can definitely relate to you

28:39

when you share about, you know, choosing

28:41

career over family

28:43

or feeling like that's what you

28:45

did. And that cultural piece

28:47

of of

28:48

of this kinda

28:50

like, yeah, it's very noble to be

28:53

the the successful businesswoman

28:55

or the successful career woman

28:58

and to be, like, making heaps of money and

29:00

be really successful and all

29:02

the things successful, quote

29:04

unquote. And

29:06

I feel like there's less celebration around women

29:09

who are at home with their children

29:11

-- Mhmm. --

29:12

just celebrating becoming mothers

29:15

and Yeah. It's just like

29:17

twenty twenty two kind of

29:19

the change that's happened over the

29:22

years and in culture. Yeah.

29:24

And

29:24

I think it's I think it's doing a little bit of a

29:26

twist back now. As, like,

29:28

from what I'm seeing is from a woman

29:30

around me. Mhmm. where

29:32

they're like, oh, okay. No. This is

29:35

actually what's really nourishing for me

29:37

is to be with my babies. And

29:39

this is actually really

29:41

what I long fall. So that that

29:43

programming is being really questioned

29:45

now if they are or how can we find the

29:47

middle road here, like, the balance of it?

29:49

Instead of feeling like it has

29:51

to be one or the Mhmm. And I

29:54

think a lot of it comes back to support.

29:56

Right? Like, really, what we're wanting is

29:58

is support, and that's one of

29:59

things that really came up for me was, oh,

30:02

like, will I be supported? Because, you

30:04

know, there's this this piece

30:06

around that mother's not feeling supported.

30:08

It's

30:08

so so common.

30:09

Mhmm. And it's also a

30:11

deep terror to to be abandoned

30:14

as a mother. and

30:16

not have financial support and to

30:18

be have not have covering, you

30:20

know, and

30:21

also, you know, have a sisterhood

30:23

of women where when doing

30:25

it together. Mhmm.

30:27

I mean,

30:28

you would you know

30:30

it's been

30:30

your experience lately, hasn't that? Yeah.

30:33

You're

30:33

just hitting the nail on the head like

30:36

the oh, it's just something that

30:38

I'm trying to find a

30:39

balance with this mothering to children

30:41

and wanting more children,

30:43

but then battling

30:45

like this love of

30:47

being

30:49

a business woman and

30:51

having

30:52

that as a big part of my identity and

30:55

and

30:55

I'm like,

30:56

loving, creating to, like, really

30:58

getting off on the creation process and

31:00

bringing ideas to life, but then

31:02

how consuming that can be for me.

31:04

So trying to why in this, like,

31:07

balance. It's just my it's actually my

31:09

biggest piece. It has been for years

31:11

is to to battle

31:13

between the two. and

31:15

find a really nice

31:17

to find a nice balance between

31:20

them. Because, yeah, when I go

31:22

really

31:22

deep into the like, creation

31:26

piece in my business. It has it

31:28

doesn't have a great effect on my

31:30

relationship either. It's like two men

31:32

living together are just going for

31:34

success and the polarity drops

31:36

and, you know, it affects our life

31:38

and all sorts of things. So, like, it's not

31:40

yeah. It's big for me. And then

31:43

also the support piece is big for me. Like,

31:45

I definitely

31:46

don't feel much don't have

31:48

much support in

31:48

my community and family doesn't live

31:51

around me. And

31:51

so, yeah, you're

31:53

just touching

31:54

on all the topics that

31:56

I'm always moving through at the moment. Mhmm.

31:58

And it's

31:59

interesting contrast between, like, you and

32:02

I, you know, because you you have the

32:04

babies and I want the babies

32:06

but I'm in this, like, point of my career where I'm and

32:08

I keep choosing my career. Mhmm. And

32:10

then the

32:10

terror in me around, like,

32:13

not having the support or looking

32:15

at my friends who do have babies and seeing how

32:17

stressed

32:17

out. They are from being like, do I

32:19

want that? Like, it's almost it

32:21

can feel easier to be a career woman than

32:23

be entangled in the

32:25

dynamic of, like, having

32:26

to provide the needs for

32:29

a family. and

32:31

having to really navigate or

32:33

negotiate those needs. Mhmm. And

32:35

I see that even with my friends whose partners go

32:37

to work at like, going to work is like

32:40

a relief.

32:40

Mhmm. The

32:42

the

32:42

man gets to, like, go and

32:44

she's left with the kids and he gets

32:46

to go and be like, I'm working for the family and,

32:48

you

32:48

know, I'm like, the

32:51

noble guy doing that, but then also it's

32:53

actually quite kinda It's

32:55

it's a relief to be at work. Yes.

32:57

Yeah. Well, I

32:59

can relate to that even as a

33:01

mother, like, on Wednesdays is my

33:03

official work day, and I go to my office

33:05

in Byron, and it's like, it's

33:08

such

33:08

a lovely day. Nick

33:10

is with our

33:11

little one. And

33:12

that's his day with

33:15

him. And I'm

33:15

just like seven AM. I'm like,

33:18

bye.

33:18

I'm

33:20

tapping out for the day. So I can

33:22

see how that's not because I don't love being a

33:24

mama. It's because

33:25

it's pretty fucking full on and I wanna

33:27

break and

33:27

I totally own that. And

33:30

so I can understand why

33:32

in that traditional of, like, the guy goes to work and

33:34

the woman says home, why the

33:36

men enjoy stepping

33:37

out the door and just having

33:40

freedom

33:41

for the day to

33:43

not have to clean

33:44

up shit and

33:47

wipe down the

33:49

bloody,

33:49

high chair,

33:50

and all You know? And there were

33:52

the nervous systems. You know, you're dealing you're on

33:54

one nervous system. You're dealing with

33:57

multiple. Yeah. You know?

33:59

Yeah. Yeah. And I and I what I'm

34:00

noticing is the older I get, the

34:03

the more I'm getting used to my

34:05

my life. Yes.

34:07

And I look around and I'm

34:09

like, I really

34:10

want that, but I really like

34:13

my

34:13

life. Yeah. And it's,

34:16

yeah, becoming harder

34:16

and harder to surrender to

34:19

that possibility now. Mhmm. And

34:21

thirty six and and I can

34:23

feel the engraining of this like, oh,

34:26

Shanye's life is really good as

34:28

Shanye's

34:28

life.

34:30

With

34:30

your business, you

34:33

know, and we're going off in

34:34

a bit of a tangent, but I think it's great.

34:38

you'd got going through

34:39

a bit of you've mentioned when we were before

34:41

we start recording a bit of, like,

34:43

maybe, perhaps, a revamp or something of

34:45

your business setup. correct

34:48

me if I'm wrong. But does that mean that you

34:50

are keeping in mind your vision for

34:52

children in the future and setting up

34:55

your business to

34:57

support, you

34:58

know, support you to rest back

35:00

into motherfuckers. It's all about that.

35:04

Yeah. It's all about this. So, you know, like I've

35:06

spent us thinking about this doing

35:08

this for, like, almost fifteen years.

35:10

And I spent the

35:14

first you know, first basically

35:16

from my teachers and teaching exactly what

35:18

my teachers taught. Yeah.

35:20

And then I went into

35:23

kind of merging I can't well, actually, then

35:26

I went into that throughout the scripts,

35:28

and I just focused on, like,

35:30

my

35:30

own creative channel. And then

35:33

I kind of merge them together. And then I spent

35:35

all this time creating, like, creating courses, like

35:37

launching courses, like,

35:40

the body of work that was coming through me.

35:41

Mhmm. And now I've put

35:42

it all into the void. Like, it's

35:44

just it's all being suck. and

35:47

back into the void

35:48

and I'm closing everything down. Yeah.

35:51

And

35:51

I'm making one

35:53

course. And now -- Mhmm. -- and I see that

35:55

you've done that with the the

35:57

pleasure school. Yeah. And that this

35:59

feels

35:59

like such a simple

36:02

model because I'm like, I'm sick of

36:04

having all the things. And if I wanna have

36:07

a baby, if I wanna have space, like, a lot

36:09

more space for my relationship and

36:11

to be nurturing these other

36:13

areas of my life, I actually have

36:15

to

36:15

get rid of all the

36:17

things and really focus on this, like, one piece which

36:19

is my

36:19

signature. Mhmm. And so that's that's what's

36:22

emerging right now and and all of it

36:24

is

36:24

really in service

36:27

to this, like, longing to to have a child --

36:29

Mhmm. -- the best way to

36:31

prepare for that. where

36:34

I'm not gonna be overwhelmed

36:36

and, you

36:36

know,

36:37

just try

36:38

to juggle too

36:39

many things. And, you know, like I said before,

36:41

like, all the nervous systems,

36:43

like, fucking out dealing with my own

36:45

nervous system is like, enough

36:47

work

36:47

sometimes, you know, like, you're

36:49

speculating. And then I'm like, oh, looking at all

36:51

these

36:51

other, like, people in the in

36:53

the family dynamic. And then I've got all courses and all these people and these

36:56

courses not. It's just it's too much.

36:58

And I

37:00

think that we can become more minimalistic. I mean, I think

37:02

that some people I'm I'm quite ADHD.

37:04

So the I think some

37:07

people can really thrive of

37:10

the complexity. Mhmm.

37:11

There's a lot of things, but for

37:13

me, I can feel this, like, really pulling

37:15

back and just, like, stripping back and

37:18

simplifying is the

37:19

best model for

37:22

me as a woman who who

37:24

wants space. to be

37:25

able to do other things.

37:28

Yeah. I

37:28

think that's great. Mhmm.

37:30

I think people can thrive

37:32

off the complexity definitely. However,

37:35

what impact my question is, like, what for

37:37

those women, what

37:38

impact does that

37:39

have on

37:42

our children and our

37:44

relationships and our children's nervous

37:46

system. And even when we're

37:48

pregnant, you know, like working to the

37:50

last hour, and and

37:51

having, like, our nervous system so jacked

37:54

up, what impact does that have

37:56

on our unborn child? You know, like,

37:58

there's just so much

37:59

there that Oh, like, I think it has

38:01

a huge impact. So I

38:03

think you're

38:04

smart anyway and

38:06

wise.

38:08

thinking

38:09

now, like thinking ahead. Yeah. It feels so

38:11

good to have more spaciousness. Yeah.

38:14

And I think that's the way we're hitting

38:17

I like that a lot of people are wanting that

38:20

as well, like, really feeling like how

38:22

overwhelming the world is and particularly

38:24

the online world. You know, we're getting

38:26

bombarded with so much

38:28

information -- Mhmm. -- all the time

38:30

and and there's, like, a real hangout for

38:32

this, like yeah. That's

38:33

kinda stripping

38:36

back and and more kind of, I guess, more of a holistic

38:38

awareness around how we're

38:40

living. Mhmm. Yeah.

38:42

Okay. Let's

38:44

go back to

38:45

erotic print imprints. Let's circle

38:48

back. So so what's

38:50

your,

38:50

like, if you could give a definition

38:52

of erotic imprinting,

38:54

what what would

38:55

it be for, like,

38:58

for the I was

38:59

gonna say the layman, but that's a real but

39:02

the like to somebody who's just

39:04

like, what is well,

39:05

he doesn't I don't know what I'm trying to

39:07

say. But what's your definition of erotic in printing?

39:10

So I think

39:10

my definition, I was gonna

39:12

say like, be a hoe. do

39:15

whatever you want. But

39:18

do

39:18

it with consciousness. Yeah. I'm like,

39:20

we we'd be conscious about our choices and

39:22

responsible about our choices in the end.

39:24

And there are choices weave with us. We're

39:27

like we're like nature.

39:28

We're like we're we're we're we're we're we're weaving spider

39:30

webs. And

39:32

who I allow into

39:33

my into my being? I wanna be

39:36

a full focus to when I've seen you speak about,

39:38

you know, the head,

39:40

heart, gut, pussy,

39:42

you know, alignments. Like, we really wanna

39:44

be a full a full yes. And it doesn't

39:46

matter if it's a one night stand or it's

39:48

a long term or whatever. You can have

39:50

such a beautiful, heart connected, like, heart openness. And

39:53

I think that that's the main piece. It's

39:55

like, is my heart really openness?

39:57

And

39:59

this is to these teachings around like upper heart, lower

40:02

heart. Mhmm. And the upper heart

40:04

is really about, like, oneness

40:06

and, like, you

40:08

know, like being able to open and form a love with anybody. And the

40:10

lower heart is the the personal and the

40:13

ways that we entangle with

40:16

others. And

40:16

Sometimes you can have

40:18

a a sexual encounter

40:20

with

40:20

someone that's very upper heart --

40:22

Mhmm. -- where it's

40:23

like, oh, like I feel my

40:26

heart is open, is a beautiful oneness, but

40:28

I'm not personally entangled.

40:30

Yeah. And so I think that that's where, you know, we when

40:32

we have

40:32

this puritan conditioning of, like, people

40:35

being, like, oh,

40:35

you shouldn't have sex with lots of people.

40:37

It's like, no. Like, it just depends

40:40

whether, am I

40:42

fully open? Or

40:43

am I in hesitation or

40:45

not sure? Or is something is

40:47

something off? Because if your heart's open,

40:49

then heart will compromise the experience

40:51

to be a beautiful imprint in your system

40:54

and that's what we're wanting. We're wanting beautiful

40:56

imprints. Is this

40:57

connection going to make my

40:59

life more beautiful? And or

41:01

is

41:02

it actually gonna take something for

41:05

me? Well, am I am I

41:07

reaching outside of myself? out

41:09

of fear of not having something

41:11

or needing to be validated? Or where

41:13

is it? Where is this this

41:15

need to connect coming from? Is it coming from a pure,

41:17

like, I I feel like a

41:20

longing and this feels really beautiful and

41:22

like it's

41:24

going to be beneficial or, like,

41:26

generative and nourishing?

41:28

Or is it coming from a place where I'm trying to

41:32

get something? and if there's a

41:34

distortion or an insecurity behind it, and that potentially may leave a negative

41:36

imprint in

41:40

your system.

41:40

And I think that the, you know, so much

41:42

of my

41:43

work is about, like, vertical vertical connection

41:45

versus horizontal. So

41:47

when a woman

41:49

has her vertical connection to her ecstatic body and her

41:51

robotic body and her her her and

41:53

her being like

41:55

you know, she's self generative.

41:58

And

41:58

she's less likely

41:59

to reach outside of

42:02

herself to try and

42:04

get things from a place of emptiness or

42:06

not enoughness inside of her. And so the

42:07

more that we can have these generative

42:10

practices of of vertical

42:12

connection, then

42:14

we do come and we meet someone in the horizontal realm,

42:16

we

42:17

we meet a beloved or someone

42:19

to

42:19

and and to have a moment

42:21

of entanglement with, It's

42:23

coming from a

42:25

real sovereign place

42:26

of like responsibility and

42:30

choice -- Mhmm. --

42:32

and clarity. and

42:32

I'm not pulling on or, you know, I'm not I'm

42:35

not gonna become, like, victimized

42:37

after this,

42:37

but after

42:40

a choice that I made because

42:42

I'm actually really clear. Mhmm. And my

42:43

own vessel around my choices and I know how

42:45

my body speaks

42:48

to me. So I think does that

42:50

conclude it? Like, it like, the heart

42:52

openness piece is really central, I

42:54

think, for

42:56

women. and it doesn't

42:58

matter if it's upper heart, lower heart,

43:00

you know. There's there's there's all

43:02

of that there, but it's

43:04

it's

43:05

whether we we are actually open or are we are we running

43:07

from somewhere that's got a distortion

43:09

behind it? Yeah.

43:12

You've it's it's so you've said it

43:14

so beautifully, and I love how you said, like, does that the

43:16

question, does this will this

43:20

experience make my life more beautiful. You said something like that.

43:22

And that's such a great question to

43:24

ask ourselves before we

43:26

choose to engage with anyone.

43:29

And,

43:29

yeah, it's just

43:32

mine used to

43:32

be, well, it kind of still is, but

43:34

now I'm not being

43:35

a whole. I'm just, like, I'm

43:37

a nogginist mother.

43:39

just chillin.

43:44

Good.

43:44

Mine was like, would

43:46

I would I,

43:47

like, really enjoy waking up to this person? And

43:49

would I wanna share breakfast

43:51

with them? Like, that was just that was when

43:53

I was younger.

43:54

I was, like,

43:56

this someone I wanna wake up next someone who

43:58

if I had to,

43:59

would I wanna be, like,

44:02

step into their life and be

44:04

them? Like, how would I

44:06

feel to be walking in their steps?

44:08

Like, that's what I would question.

44:10

because I really just from one

44:12

from a certain state, wanted to just be

44:15

sleeping with people who

44:18

really inspired

44:18

me and I was like, wow,

44:20

you're an epic human being. like,

44:22

you're so interesting, and that was what I questioned a

44:25

lot before I

44:26

chose to speak

44:26

with people. Yeah. I mean, I've had

44:29

that experience where we just keep

44:31

going. I've had that experience. I am in my relationship where I I receive the

44:33

transmission of that person's blueprint. So

44:35

my partner, for instance, has

44:37

got really high integrity.

44:39

and really strong like

44:41

boundaries. And I've received that imprint

44:43

from merging with him. And then I also noticed

44:45

that when I I had a I had

44:48

a girlfriend,

44:48

And I was really attracted to her.

44:51

I wanted to merge with her because it was

44:53

something I really, like, idolized about

44:55

her. And I wanted

44:57

to receive that into me. And, you know, there's there's

44:59

that awareness of, like, oh, like, who who we're

45:02

merging with? We're receiving that

45:04

transmission. It's

45:06

a transmission learning experience.

45:08

Do I wanna receive

45:10

their transmissions? There's something in them

45:13

that they're embodying that I want and

45:15

connecting intimate doesn't have to be penetration. It could be eye

45:17

to eye or, you know, you know, it

45:19

could be something much more

45:22

energetic or just making out or

45:24

something, but there can be something really profound

45:26

and and the receipt

45:27

conscious receiving of of a

45:29

person's

45:29

qualities and learning

45:32

from that.

45:33

Yeah.

45:34

That reminds me of a session I had with

45:36

my therapist, Susan, who I was telling

45:38

you about. And I had this session when

45:40

I was twenty something and I went

45:42

to her and I said, I keep sleeping

45:45

with younger men who are and

45:47

I don't wanna do it anymore. And she was like, why

45:49

not? And, you know, we we kinda went

45:51

into, like, this the same type

45:54

of guy I was attracting, and they were always younger, and they were always really fun.

45:56

Like, kind of, like,

45:59

out

45:59

there confident young

46:02

men who were just like partying, he's but really

46:05

funny and exciting. And so

46:07

we fully went into

46:10

that what I loved about them and what I was attracted to,

46:12

and then what I had to pick up within myself,

46:14

which was like, I actually I

46:18

wanted more of that in my life. I wanted

46:20

more fun. I was, you know, I was a young single mom who was, like,

46:22

in day to day life, having to

46:24

be really responsible and looking

46:27

after my daughter and providing for her and all

46:29

the things that I wasn't having enough fun. So when

46:31

I had my time off, I was, like,

46:34

hoeing about with these young fun,

46:36

free, like, got men.

46:38

Mhmm. And it really helped me in that one session

46:40

to pick up on that within myself and be like,

46:42

oh, that's what I'm wanting for myself.

46:44

And

46:44

I'm kinda outsourcing it to these like one night stands with yeah.

46:47

Anyway. Mhmm. Yeah. Which can

46:50

be

46:51

really beautiful. you

46:53

know -- your life and

46:54

bring more beauty. Yeah. Oh, man.

46:57

We could yeah.

47:00

I

47:00

feel like we've just touched on some really cool things

47:03

and we don't

47:03

need to keep going and going. Like,

47:06

it's like

47:08

there's Yeah. We've spoken

47:10

about heaps. I wanted to touch

47:12

on let me just check my notes.

47:14

The path of erotic love, and I

47:17

feel like we've touched on that what

47:19

would you say is the path like, you speak about the

47:21

path of erotic love affair bit? Would

47:23

you say

47:25

that you're pretty spoken to that in

47:27

a roundabout way and what I I have. have, and it's really this

47:29

piece around, like, oh, our heart and

47:31

our love is

47:33

not separate. to our iris to our erotic bodies.

47:36

Mhmm. Like, I just wear

47:37

where we are holistic

47:39

beings. We everything

47:42

is interconnected. And,

47:44

you know, we're not we're

47:45

not separate from them and that

47:47

that yeah. Like,

47:49

it's it's a

47:51

beautiful beautiful thing to to open your heart

47:54

and open your sexuality and let

47:56

your full erotic current

47:58

run through your whole

47:59

system and and that's where we find the most

48:02

fulfilling orgasmic,

48:04

you

48:05

know, full body experience

48:07

is not through shutting down their heart or

48:10

I can't open that part or do you

48:12

know, armoring that or armoring that part

48:14

about body, oh, have everything else but that

48:16

part. It's like, no. The whole thing is involved in that. And and

48:18

to be aware, like, when we shut our

48:21

heart down or armwork, we we are

48:23

essentially creating a pattern. our

48:26

system that has to be undone if we

48:27

want that later on.

48:30

Mhmm.

48:30

And so that's another

48:32

piece of the awareness, you know, of

48:34

of

48:35

Okay. So if I'm choosing experiences where

48:37

I have to be shut down

48:39

here, then there's gonna

48:40

be consequences for that

48:43

later. and

48:44

and some things are harder undone

48:46

than they are done. Mhmm. You

48:48

know?

48:48

And and and it's not a

48:51

right or wrong thing like it is what it is and we and we work

48:53

with what we have. But the

48:56

path

48:56

of a erotic love is really about

48:57

honoring the wholeness that

49:00

we are.

49:01

and, you

49:03

know,

49:03

not denying, like, our nature is

49:05

not denying that we are very

49:07

heart centered and we

49:09

are very sensitive and that our heart feels so

49:11

much

49:12

like our hearts are orgasmic.

49:14

Mhmm. When we when we allow

49:16

energy to stream through those places

49:19

and there's lots

49:20

of practices. And, you know, I teach them on my courses.

49:21

You probably teach in your course, you know,

49:24

sublimation practices of how to open

49:26

and expand the

49:28

heart and really, like, melt.

49:30

What's what's hard

49:31

there? And then more more love

49:33

can be felt.

49:34

love can be found Mhmm.

49:36

Yeah.

49:36

Beautiful.

49:38

Thanks

49:40

so much for sharing today.

49:42

It's a

49:42

pleasure to be back. Oh, no. It's

49:45

I've been so long. I've wanted you

49:47

back for so long and it's just been a

49:49

long time between chat. So thank

49:51

you. Where can people find you? Do you wanna

49:53

give us your Instagram and

49:56

your website? So

49:56

I have my Instagram, Shanye, underscore

49:58

enchantress. My website was hacked and turned into

50:00

a porn site. Oh, you'd

50:03

don't

50:05

go there enough. Oh,

50:08

excuse me. No. The yeah. That that

50:09

happened. They obviously did it intentionally,

50:12

which is hilarious because I'm just so

50:14

known about that. It sounds like that's

50:16

insane. So I'm currently in the

50:18

process of, like, acquiring a new

50:20

domain and a

50:22

new website and all of that. So just find me on on

50:24

your Instagram

50:25

for now and and eventually my

50:28

website will

50:28

be linked in there.

50:30

Yeah. Beautiful. Okay. Thank you so much.

50:32

Appreciate you.

50:34

Sending you lots of

50:36

love also on

50:38

your journey to more spaciousness

50:42

and

50:42

to calling in that little soul

50:44

baby or babies. Mhmm.

50:46

Thank you. You're definitely gonna be a

50:48

mama

50:49

Definitely. Well, I'm in my

50:52

opinion and feeling. Mhmm.

50:53

Thank you.

50:55

Mhmm. You'll be

50:57

a beautiful mother.

50:59

Mhmm. Maybe

51:02

love. We chat soon.

51:04

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