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Mel Davis was thirteen years old
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the first time he saw Boys Hot play basketball.
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I heard so much about it, and when I went to a
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boys high game, I was just blown away and
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I said, well, this is a place for I need
0:13
to come to. It was just awesome, the
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camaraderie, the electricity there,
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and it was a Brooklyn phenomenal
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event and I loved it.
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At halftime, Davis went into
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the locker room to meet head coach Howie
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Jones.
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He was incredible. He had heard
0:29
about me, and he didn't have a lot of time
0:32
to spend with me. He said a few things
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to me that I remember to this day.
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He said, wherever you go, Son, you're going to
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be successful, he says, but one
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thing you need to consider if you are
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as good as you think you are when you come
0:44
here and try and play with the best. And that
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was it. He said, good luck to you, and he went
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back to talking to the team at halftime.
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And I'll never forget that. And the
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rest is history.
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This is the story of the first high school
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team in New York City that was big
1:00
given basketball. I'll
1:02
meet you dalk or the flyper Zombies, And
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this is the legend of Boys High right
1:07
here on Basketball's Borough.
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Everybody knew about Boys High.
1:24
Everybody talked about Boys High.
1:26
It was intimidated by Boys High, probably
1:29
because of what they did on the layup line.
1:32
That's Hall of Fame sports writer Peter
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Vessi, who played ball at Auschbishop
1:37
Malloy and Queen's and graduated in
1:39
nineteen sixty one right
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in the middle of Boys High, has run dominated
1:43
New York City high schools. That
1:46
same year, Billy Cunningham
1:48
graduated from Erasmus Hall before
1:51
going on to North Carolina and
1:53
then a Hall of Fame playing career in the
1:55
NBA.
1:56
In those days, Boys High was by far
1:59
the best high school basketball team in
2:01
Brooklyn, New York. They were quite unique
2:03
that the first eight players, if I
2:05
remember correctly, all could dunk, and
2:08
that was a big thing. You know, Oh my goodness,
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all eight of them conduct. How could you absolutely
2:12
beat them? I think we're all were in
2:14
awe of the talent and
2:17
the abilities of Boys High. Everybody
2:20
told Boys High and how they were
2:22
doing competitively. Get the
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Brooklyn Eagle to fight out the
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scores the newspaper, and
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as I mentioned, the opportunity to scrimmage
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against Boys High, and they usually would
2:34
come to our place because we had glass backboards,
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got an opportunity to play against
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them. It was a great thrill. It was
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bigger than just playing a game. They counted
2:44
the scrimmage to participate against
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them. That was a wonderful
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era for high school basketball
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in Brooklyn.
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Ask anybody about boys high and
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the names they just spill out. It
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always starts with Connie Hawkins,
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Lenny Wilkins, and Tommy Davis.
3:03
But there's also Sahego Green and
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Vinnie Cohen, Jumping, Jackie
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Jackson and Billy Burwell,
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Eldridge Webb, Sam Pencil
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and Von Harper, Mel
3:17
Davis, Jerry Powell,
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Haywood, Edwards.
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Chet Walker, and Walter
3:23
Davis.
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From nineteen fifty seven to nineteen
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sixty four, they went to seven
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PSAL championship games.
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In eight years and won five.
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They won a total of eight city titles
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from nineteen fifty two to nineteen
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sixty nine. There were
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College All Americans, NBA
3:43
All Stars, Harlem Globetrotters,
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and Hall of Famous, but it
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was a team that built its lasting legend
3:51
on the playgrounds as much as the
3:53
high school gyms. For that part
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of the story, we're going to start with
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Connie Hawkins.
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I tell every buddy this Contie
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Hawkins that at seventeen and eighteen
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might have been as good a player as only seventeen
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or eighteen year old.
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Ever, that's all of fame coach
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Larry Brown, who got his basketball
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education in Brooklyn by
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coming back to playing the playground in places
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like the Brownsville Boys Club, even
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after his family moved out to Long Island.
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Let's go back to Larry Brown's college teammate
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Billy Cunningham.
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Cottie was phenomenal.
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We were good friends.
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I can remember running down Flatbush
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Avenue near a rismus holing the
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different movies theaters, saying
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who could jump higher? What letter could
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you hit? Running down the street, then
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we go shoot some pool. He was
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so gifted. The game was
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so easy to him at a
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young age. Looking back,
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ego was never an issue with that. He would
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rather make a nice pass or simple pass
4:53
than score two points. He got more
4:56
joy out of doing those types of things.
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And in many cases kids
5:00
and players the ego issue want to
5:02
score points to get a reputation.
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He never had that. Peter VESSI
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describe Hawkins the same way.
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Connie was not to be believed
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he did things you'd never seen before.
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Everything that needed to be done, he'd get it done.
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But he do it kind of casually.
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He didn't really have passion. He
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wasn't ruthless, he wasn't crude.
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You know, he just got it done.
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Lenny Wilkins graduated Boys
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High in nineteen fifty six, just
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before the Hawk came to high school.
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Connie was from my neighborhood and
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I saw him many times on the playground.
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Incredible hands,
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I mean had huge hands and he could
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pick the basketball up like it was a grape
5:45
fruit. Everybody knew that he
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was going to be a star, that he was going
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to be an incredible player. He
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was unselfish. He could run, he
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could jump, he could block shots.
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He was just an incredible player. Connie's
6:00
was unbelievable. I think he was still
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growing in high school.
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It got to be six ' nine. He was long,
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lean, wiry, and
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to be able to move like that, block
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shots, rebound, get out,
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run on the fast break, be able to
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go to the basket, come up on the other side,
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dunk it, or find that open man. His
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skill was incredible, The control
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of the ball, the way he could handle
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the basketball, No guy his size
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could handle the ball like that. Years
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later, doctor J. Lgim
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Baylor. But Connie, he
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could take that ball, like I said, and just
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swirl it around his head put it up on
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the other side of the basket. He had
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such control. The size
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of his hands made it easy for him.
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With Hawkins leading the way, Boys
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High went undefeated in his junior and senior
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seasons and went back to back PSAL
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City championships. But
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the game everybody remembers is
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the one Connie foul out of in the third
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quarter. They were up against another
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Brooklyn team, win Gate High School,
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in the nineteen sixty PSL semifinals.
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There was a showdown. The whole city was looking
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forward to win Gates. Roger
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Brown went for thirty nine points that day
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at Madison Square Garden, but Boys
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held on for sixty two to fifty nine
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win and then beat Columbus
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for the championship. Documentary
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filmmaker Ted Green as the producer,
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director, and writer of the film
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Undefeated. The Roger Brown story.
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Still called by many the greatest schoolboys
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showdown in New York City history, which is
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saying.
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A hell of a lot.
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Some people remember it as the finals, but it was actually
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the semi finals at Madison Square
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Garden.
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It's one of those.
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Games where probably one hundred thousand
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people say they were there, and there were actually probably
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you know, eight or nine thousand. But that STEP's
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the legend of this game.
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And here's Peter VESSI.
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I wish I was at that game when they played
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Boys High wing Gate. I did a big
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piece on it, I don't know, fifteen
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twenty years ago. So and Connie used
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to laugh at me, Man, you're the only guy
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that I know that doesn't swear
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that he was at that game at the garden. A
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friend of mine was at it, but he
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said, that's the second biggest lie
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is that everybody said they're at Wilt's
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one hundred point game in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
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You know, amazingly to look it up, but I think
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they were only like nine thousands the garden for
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Connie's game. My friend who went
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there, he became an NBA agent. He
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cut school, he went. He's been talking about
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that.
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His whole life.
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There was another player from that Boys, however,
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who inspired the same kind of awe and
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myth making on the playgrounds. You
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could always find he and Connie together
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on the courts all around New York City
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or even playing together for the all them Globe
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trotters. Let's let Connie
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himself introduce you to the man so
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nice. They named him twice jumping
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Jackie Jackson.
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And we had a guy w by named Jackie Jackson who
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was like six foot four and actually touched
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top of the backboard. I've heard people talk about guys
9:02
touching the backboard. This guy can do it. And
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we ran a play and Whip used to shoot this fadeaway
9:06
jump shot. He used to draw up pine and shoot off the glass.
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So we had a play that we would make Will shoot
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the jump shot and Jackie would come over and block it, and
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we had to play set up perfect, went in
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and turned shot a jump shot. Jackie
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came from the weak side and caught it and right at the top of
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the of the backboard, and the crowd
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went crazy. People were running around the place
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and jumping off the fence and almost jumping
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off the ceilings and stuff, and it was just phenomenal.
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And we looked over at Wilton, what were staring at
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us? And he woke called time out, just
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called timeout like that, and everybody was still running
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around screaming and.
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Back then there wasn't high five. They'd give everybody low
9:40
five and stuff.
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Everybody was clapping the can on and
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then the next fifteen plays were dunked
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by Wilt that I've never seen before in my life.
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He dunked every single way he came to imagine for
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him.
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That was Connie talking to NBA TV
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back in twenty thirteen about one
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of the fame rucket games between New
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York and Philly teams that brought together some
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of the best players of the day. Back
10:02
in nineteen eighty nine, Philadelphia
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basketball legend Sunny Hill told the La
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Times, I have seen everybody.
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The greatest leaper I ever saw was Jackie.
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Nobody ever played the game could rise
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any better than Jackie. I saw him
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come down the floor once in the Eastern
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League. On a fast break, Jay
10:21
Norman, an outstanding defensive
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player, went into his defensive stance
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at the foul line. Jackie
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jumped over Norman's head and dunked the ball.
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Here's Larry Brown.
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Jackie was the highest jumper I've
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ever seen. We played an All Star game
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in Long Beach. Jack Blinis was
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part of it. He brought Roger and Connie
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and Jackie Jackson. A whole bunch of guys
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played against a bunch of us from Long Island.
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I remember I shot a set shot. I used
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to shoot two hands. I shot a set shot
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about twenty feet and Jackie Jackson
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jumped.
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Up and cornered in front.
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Of the rim and soul body seemed
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to be over the basket.
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Even the ray Oscar Robertson out of Indianapolis
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and Cincinnati knew the legend of
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jumping Jackie.
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Everybody knows about Jackie Jackson, I
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mean famous in New York City in the playground.
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Jacket Jackson's the old man Jacket Jackson.
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He can jump and take.
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The money off the top of the top of the backboard.
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And then you talk to.
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Will to say, yeah, I'd give him change.
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That's what I did.
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Not everybody believes that story about
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grabbing a corter off the top of the backboard.
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By the way, remember last week
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when we were talking about myths and legends
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and when the legend becomes fat print
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the legend. Maybe there's a little
11:36
bit of that at work too. But
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here's the thing. Even the guys
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that don't buy it all know the story.
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Here's Billy Cunningham, who could get
11:46
off the floor pretty good himself, so
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good that they called Billy c the Kangaroo
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kid.
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He had that reputation for his ability
11:54
to jump. Of course, things tend
11:56
to get exaggerated. That he could take a quarter
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off the top of the backboarder leave you some change.
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It might have been a half a dollar.
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I'm not sure.
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I never saw anybody from Wilt chamber
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On touch the top of the backboard
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get up there, But to this day I
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would like to see that, and I've never seen.
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And Peter VESSI, I.
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Don't believe the story about him, you know, touching
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the top of the backboard, And to me, it's
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a myth. You know the story, you know, yeah,
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the fifty cents took change left change.
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You know, every story
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needs a starting point, and maybe
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for Boys High and this particular
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era, Basketball's borough.
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It all starts with s Hugo Green.
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I mean, if you ask
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Oscar Robinson about Brooklyn basketball,
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the first words he'll say are to
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Hugo Green.
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The greatest forward that I've seen about
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six y three in my lifetime.
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The Big Old discovered Green
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while he was starring at the University
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of Cincinnati, and Green was playing
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for the Cincinnati Royals after
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he was a two time first team All American
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that du Cane. The Royals took
13:05
Green first in the nineteen fifty sixth
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draft, right ahead of a guy named
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Bill Russell. After Green
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graduated Boys High, there
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was Vinnie Cohen, who led the Way
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to the city title in nineteen fifty
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two, then was an All American
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as Syracuse. He led the
13:22
Orange and scoring three straight
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years while playing with football Hall of
13:27
Famer Jim Brown. Then
13:29
came Tommy Davis, all City
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in basketball and best friends with Lenny
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Wilkins. But it turned out Tommy
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was even better on the baseball Domin he
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signed with the Dodgers, went West,
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and in nineteen sixty two he led
13:43
the league in Batten average, hits
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and rbrs and finished third
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in the MVP voting. In nineteen
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sixty three, he went to his second
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All Star Game, won another Batten
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title, and the Dodgers won.
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The World Series.
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Billy Burwell, the six FO center,
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started on an undefeated championship
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team in nineteen fifty seven, then
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one again teamed up with Connie Hawkins
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in nineteen fifty nine. In
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three years at Illinois, he averaged
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fifteen points a game and won the
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Big Ten title as a senior. Even
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the graduation of the great Connie
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Hawkins didn't slow the Boys
14:21
machine. They won the city again
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in nineteen sixty two and nineteen
14:26
sixty four. In
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between Clinton edged them by
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a point in the nineteen sixty three
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PSAL title game. They
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had Sam Penzel and Von
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Harper, who both went on to Syracuse
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to play with Dave Bing and Jim
14:41
Beaheim, and guard Eldridge
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Webb, who was so good they
14:46
retired his jersey number on the
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spot after his last game.
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Ray Haskins grew up.
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In bed Star across from forty
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four Park, which you know today as Solo
14:57
in the Whole. He graduated
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from Boys High in sixty seven and
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was championship coach in high school and
15:03
college in Brooklyn. Haskins
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led Alexander Hamilton to the PSAL
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title in nineteen eighty one and took
15:12
Long Island University to the NCAA
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tournament in nineteen ninety seven ELVI
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twelve.
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He played with Von Harper. A lot of people
15:20
didn't know that Varn Harper was a radio personality.
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They didn't know he was an All American basketball
15:24
player from Boys High and They
15:27
tell the story at Tulsa University
15:29
where they say the best player that ever
15:31
played at Telsa with all the pros they
15:34
had was Elvis Webb. He was an
15:36
amazing, amazing player. He never
15:38
went to the NBA. He wound up playing with for Marcus
15:40
Haynes's show team, the Musicians, where.
15:43
He traveled all over, but we had
15:45
a lot of grace.
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Finally, there was Mel
15:48
Davis, who went to Boys High
15:51
to play with the best, just like
15:53
coach Howie Jones said he should. The
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big man hit the championship
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game winner with six seconds left against
15:59
clin And in nineteen sixty eight, then
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had thirty five points when Boys rolled
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over Van Buren in nineteen sixty
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nine, making an even fifty
16:09
straight wins. That was
16:11
also the end of an era. Mel's
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senior year was the last for coach Howie
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Jones, who moved on to succeed another
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Brooklyn legend, Dolly King, as
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head coach at Manhattan Community College.
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After King passed away, Jones
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left Boys High with a spectacular
16:27
one twenty four to sixteen
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record.
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Here's Mel Davis.
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I kept in touch with Howie weekly.
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I mean, he was like a father figure to me. Dear
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friend until he passed. I think
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it was three years ago we lost him.
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He was a phenomenal coach, a legend in
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Brooklyn. He helped so many ball
16:46
players for my father figure to
16:48
advice to schooling. He
16:50
just meant so much to so many players that played
16:53
for him and well respected and well loved.
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Jones had followed Mickey Fisher,
16:58
who coached Boys High for twenty six years.
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Hall of Famer Lenny Wilkins remembers his
17:03
high school coach.
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Our coach, Mickey Fisher was
17:06
a stickler for passing, for
17:09
defending, moving the ball, stuff
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like that. Remember we had
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a drill, the pregame drill,
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and he would let us do it where
17:19
everybody had to dunk the ball at the end of
17:21
the drill. But he would not let us dunk.
17:23
In the game.
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He wasn't into that, but to
17:27
use it to intimidate then opposing team.
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He would let us dunk and warm up,
17:32
not in the game.
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It's funny how things work out. Lenny
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Wilkins actually didn't play much high school
17:37
ball at Boys. He had a job
17:39
after school, so he only played a
17:42
few games as a senior. After Tommy
17:44
Davis talked to him into coming out for the team.
17:46
But of all the legends that came out of Boys
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High, the college stars, the
17:51
pros, and the playground ballers that inspired
17:54
decades of myth making,
17:56
nobody has had more accomplished basketball
17:58
life than Lenny Wilkins. Here's
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Billy Cunningham.
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As classy a man as you'll ever meet
18:04
your life, and obviously a great besketball
18:07
player. You knew what Lenny Wilkins
18:09
was gonna do, and you couldn't stop him.
18:12
He was going to go to his left, and
18:14
I don't care how hard you try to
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push him to his right. Somehow he always
18:19
got back to that left and was a
18:21
great player and went on to Providence
18:23
as we go, and had a great career
18:25
there and made them a real
18:27
force during his period of time,
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and then went on to play for the Saint Louis
18:32
Hawks. He represents everything
18:34
good that came out of Brooklyn.
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The great Lenny Wilkins is in the
18:38
Hall of Fame three times as
18:41
a player, as a coach and
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as an assistant coach with the legendary
18:46
Dream Team, the nineteen ninety
18:48
two Olympic gold medalist. And
18:51
we're going to talk about Lenny's coaching career.
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In a few weeks hair on Basketball's
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Borough when we've got an episode
18:57
dedicated to all the great coaches that
19:00
come out of Brooklyn. But for now,
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we're gonna talk about the smooth lefty
19:05
point guard who was a two time All
19:07
American at Providence College and
19:09
the first round draft pick by the Saint
19:11
Louis Hawks in nineteen sixty.
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Lenny played fifteen years in the NBA
19:17
for the Hawks, Sonics, Calves,
19:20
and Blazers and went to nine
19:22
All Star Games, winning the MVP
19:25
in nineteen seventy one. When
19:27
he retired in nineteen seventy five, he
19:29
was second in NBA history and assists,
19:31
behind only Oscar Robinson, who
19:33
he played against in the league for fourteen years.
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Here's the big O on Lenny
19:38
Wilkins. He and I went into the NBA
19:41
the same year in nineteen sixty.
19:42
Matter of fact, Lenny was also a
19:45
member of the Olympic tryout.
19:46
Team, but he didn't make the team. He should have made the basketball
19:48
team. He would have made the team, but he didn't.
19:50
But that was a difficult situation because
19:52
they didn't want too many black people on the team.
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Out said put it that way. Lenny
19:56
and I played on an All Star.
19:57
Team that big to Nicks at nineteen
19:59
sixty before the season started. Then
20:01
it was very good basketball player, very good. Went
20:03
to Saint Louis and stabilized at the offense
20:06
for for many many years. Was a great
20:08
player, and he was smart lieutenant
20:10
player. You know, he set up great point
20:13
guard. He didn't have the prolific
20:15
scoring type basketball, but he was
20:17
very good in that type of offense. And he played
20:20
years at Providence. Very good player,
20:22
All Star, All America.
20:24
What else can you say?
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When the NBA had it say about
20:28
the greatest players of all time for
20:30
his fiftieth anniversary and seventy
20:32
fifth anniversary teams Boys
20:34
Highs, Lenny Wilkins made the cut.
20:37
I heard years later they would say I had a drag
20:39
shot. It was kind of like a hook shot,
20:42
a floater that you see a lot of guys
20:44
used today. I knew I could get
20:46
to the basket.
20:47
I had no.
20:48
Fear of being bumped or pushed
20:50
or whatever. But I could get to the basket,
20:53
and if someone came to help,
20:55
I knew where his man was. I
20:57
think that my court vision was very
21:00
good, so I could always find
21:02
the open man. And guys knew that
21:04
so a lot of times. The other thing that I
21:06
started doing was when I got close
21:09
to the basket, I could use either hand
21:11
and I'd put the ball up on the board
21:13
because I knew once it got on the board, if
21:15
you touched it, it was goaltending. To
21:18
me, that was the fun of the game, penetrating
21:21
finding the open man, making a
21:23
layup, putting the spinner on the ball, stuff
21:25
like that.
21:26
I pride it myself.
21:27
In my defense, I wasn't gonna let you
21:30
just walk to the basket. You couldn't put the ball
21:32
down in front of me because I could get
21:34
it.
21:35
The end of an ever in nineteen sixty
21:38
nine didn't mean the end of the story at
21:40
Boys High. There were more championships,
21:43
including three straight in twenty
21:45
ten, twenty eleven, and twenty
21:47
twelve, and more legendary
21:49
players like the great Pearl Washington.
21:53
But we'll talk more about him a little bit
21:55
down the road on Basketball's burrow.
21:58
In the meantime, let's go back to the man
22:00
who started his story for US, Mel
22:02
Davis. After Boys High,
22:05
Mel starred at Saint John's and was
22:07
the first round pick by the Knicks in nineteen
22:09
seventy three.
22:11
After his playing days were done.
22:13
Mel worked in the NBA League Office
22:15
and then with the NBA Retired Players
22:17
Association. All along
22:20
he kept the Boys High Race together
22:22
with regular reunions.
22:24
I think that Boys Hi sister standard
22:27
for all of the schools in Brooklyn, and
22:30
they won so many championships. They've got
22:32
so many players that's come out of there. They're
22:34
basically legendary. There's no question
22:36
about it. When you think about Boys
22:39
Hie, you think about Connie Hawkins, Lenny
22:41
Wilkins, Tommie Davis, and the list
22:43
is endlest. It was a wonderful time
22:46
and you just want to continue
22:48
that legacy.
22:50
Coming up next week on Basketball's
22:52
Burrow Black Ball From
22:55
Brooklyn to the ABA, we'll
22:57
have more on what happened to Connie Hawkins
23:00
Boys High and the journey of his
23:02
rival Roger Brown. They were
23:04
part of the wave of Brooklyn talent
23:06
that got a second chance in a renegade
23:09
basketball league and helped shape
23:11
the ABA
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