Description: In this week's episode, Anthony and Marshall discuss the quote: "Shame occurs when you haven't been able to get away with the 'who' you want people to think you are." by Carl Whitaker.  They debate whether the gap between who we are and who we want to be is self-deception or the consequence of circumstance and discuss the factors involved in men's differing responses to experiences of shame by answering the question: Why do some men grow from encounters with shame while others wither from them?