Alex Rabe and Alex Zilke are two of the three founders of Portico Brewing in Somerville, Massachusetts. They both join me for a conversation about beer, community, greenwashing, and architecture - or not architecture, depending on your perspective. Get it, perspective? It's an architectural joke, you probably wouldn't understand. But I don't either. Enjoy the show. Also, subscribe.

Learn more about Portico at porticobrewing.com