0:02

What doing something

0:05

he didn't think he would do. My me.

0:10

Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards,

0:12

and I'm here looking at Sophie's

0:14

horrified face. You know,

0:17

Sophie, my grandpa

0:19

had a saying my co

0:21

host today are Katie Stole and

0:23

Cody Johnson. How are you all doing?

0:25

Grandpa? It was weird. We all thought he was going

0:28

senile when he would just shout that out. But

0:31

twenty years ago, but then I met you Bothie, Sorry,

0:33

Grandpa Evans? How

0:36

are you guys doing today? All right? A

0:38

plus good? Right on time?

0:40

Yeah, Cody is only thirty seven

0:42

minutes late to record, which I

0:44

have to say. Normally there is

0:47

a calendar invite that tells me what time we are recording,

0:49

and there was not this time, and so I did not know there

0:51

was another calendar invite that said one thirty, which

0:53

is what I was expecting. Cody is ready

0:55

for coming, so quick

0:58

quick check, Katie? Were you on time? I was on time?

1:00

Hey, Robert, quick check? Were you on time? Maybe?

1:03

Here's the thing? Were I checked? Chris? Were you on

1:05

time? I

1:08

do normally give Cody a little reminder, and

1:10

that is my fault because you

1:12

are no no,

1:14

no, absolutely

1:16

not, absolutely no, Sophie.

1:18

There's nothing woker than letting

1:20

a woman take the blame for a man's I

1:24

want all of our listeners to know. I

1:26

did not mean that. Seriously.

1:29

It was Katie and Sophie's fault. They

1:32

collaborated like Barack

1:34

Obama and Pete Bota. Katie

1:37

called Sophie and was like, should I remind

1:39

Cody? And Sophie was like no, Should

1:41

I send an email invite like I normally

1:43

do? And Katie's like no, And then they laughed

1:46

and laughed and laughed. I was on

1:48

the email thread with them. I thought it was

1:50

messed up. It's or or

1:52

perhaps you fucked up. Continue Robert with your show.

1:54

So, guys, you remember how last year

1:56

we had a couple of fun moments where we got together as

1:59

friends as as as colleagues,

2:01

as comrades, and we randomly page

2:03

through terrible books. How could

2:05

I forget? We learned about what an Edgregor

2:07

is, which is the collective satan

2:09

that the Jewish people have created with their own their

2:12

own seared into my memory. That was a good

2:14

one. Yeah. I remember the science book science

2:16

book we read You Were the Q and on book

2:19

we read We learned a lot of good

2:21

information science Part Science, Part two.

2:24

Today I got a little bit of a different book because

2:27

sometimes reading through random books at random points

2:29

in time means I don't have to prepare as much, which

2:31

can help us to get a head over here. And I love that for

2:33

you and for us for our show. And

2:35

today we're going to read a book called True

2:38

Allegiance. Now. This

2:40

has been described by the New York Times bestselling

2:43

author Brad Floor as a blockbuster

2:45

debut thriller ripped straight from the headlines, and

2:48

its author is a fellaw. Y'all

2:50

might know old Binny

2:53

Shaps my favorite. And Shapiro.

2:55

Yeah, we are. We are doing the Ben Shapiro

2:58

book today. This is fun because

3:00

I've novelist Ben

3:02

Shapira. I've been muting him more

3:04

avoiding him on Twitter. So it's been a minute.

3:07

You've been taking care of your mental health,

3:09

and I'm ready to tarnish

3:11

it right now. Just light it on fire.

3:14

There's

3:17

only so much room we have on our day to day.

3:19

That can't have been easy for you. It wasn't. Everything

3:22

he says is wrong. Now,

3:25

I wanted to talk a little bit before this about

3:27

what we do when we have a book by a terrible person that I

3:29

don't want to support financially, but I want to read because

3:32

there's a trick and I wasn't telling people the trick

3:34

before, but now, like, fuck it,

3:36

what's what's the worst that could happen? The

3:39

key is, The key is as

3:41

far as I know, this isn't illegal. The key

3:43

is purchase the book

3:45

on Kindle, right, you download it to your

3:47

device, you disconnect your device

3:49

from the Internet, you apply for

3:51

a refund from Kindle, and

3:54

then you finished doing what you're going to do in the book

3:56

before you reconnected to the Internet and removes it.

3:59

Great is legal to me? Actually it does

4:01

sound very leegal, so a

4:03

little bit, uh, a little bit of advice now

4:05

true. Allegiance was a book published in two thousand

4:07

and sixteen by Postial Press. Uh

4:10

and of course author Ben Shapiro and I want

4:12

to read you all the Amazon description so we

4:14

so you can know what we're going for here. New

4:16

York Times best selling author Ben Shapiro's

4:18

new novel asks how close are we to

4:20

our country's collapse? And we'll be able to stop

4:23

it? Once it begins? America is

4:25

coming apart in a legal immigration crisis,

4:27

has broken out along America's southern border.

4:29

There are race rights in Detroit, a Finmary,

4:32

a fiery female rancher turned militia

4:34

leaders, avowed revenge on the president for his arrogant

4:36

policies, and the world's most notorious

4:38

terrorist is planning a massive attack that could destroy

4:41

the United States as we know it. Meanwhile,

4:43

the President is too consumed by legacies seeking

4:46

to see our country's deep peril. Bret

4:48

Hawthorne as the youngest general in the United

4:51

States Army and he's stuck alone behind

4:53

the enemy lines in Afghanistan. He's the

4:55

last lost soldier of a failed war, fighting

4:57

to stay alive and make it back home, but will be

4:59

able to to have the collapse of America in time.

5:02

It sounds like a real thriller. I have a question.

5:05

Does there an audio book version of this? Oh

5:08

my god, Yeah, they're yeah,

5:10

it's free with your audible trial. Does he read

5:13

the audible? I have to know, because

5:16

it just sounds way better than

5:18

in your voice than it does in his voice,

5:20

and I feel like it's it's yeah. So could

5:23

you look it up? Because I'm disconnected from

5:25

the internet, So

5:31

I bet there's a foreword it. Oh my god, Oh

5:34

my god, you guys,

5:37

it's not even the foreword. You know how books

5:39

will have like a praise for this book page

5:41

where it has the first quote on the

5:43

praise for True Allegiance page. Meet

5:46

our new Iron, Rand dot

5:48

Com, Salon dot com,

5:50

Salon, Oh

5:53

my god. Oh it's so good. There's

5:56

a culture quote. Provocative,

5:58

intense, and about five minutes from becoming reality.

6:00

Ben Shapiro's True Allegiance is a rivening thriller

6:02

about what happens when America folds. It

6:05

just sounds rooted in fact,

6:07

not feeling. He's got an Allan West quote

6:09

in there. That's good. That's really

6:12

good, boy. And then some

6:14

people that I don't recognize. Okay, so cool,

6:16

we've got we're on a good It sounds like it's a

6:18

good book. It sounds like it's a good book by good

6:20

people. I'm very excited for

6:22

this. Yeah, okay, so it

6:26

does he read it, Sophie, Oh my good

6:29

gracious, that's

6:31

the right side of history. That's we're

6:34

doing. True Allegiance. Oh, I don't think he does.

6:36

I don't think. I don't think he does. Narrated

6:41

by somebody who is not Ben. That's

6:44

a good call. Because you might not

6:46

believe what you learn about Brigadier

6:49

General Brett how and

6:53

the prisident. He only cares about

6:55

Obama, I mean not Obama, and he's a

6:57

he's a he's a different president. Right, all

7:00

right, I'm gonna I'm gonna start with I think chapter

7:03

one looks like it's opening with, like, you know, we

7:05

were starting with like a terrorist attack going on

7:07

in New York City. Wait wait,

7:09

wait what year was this? Did you say that two thousand sixteen

7:12

this came out? Yeah, I would have had to. Yeah.

7:15

Great, so the president obsessive legacy

7:17

would be Obama, not the president.

7:20

Yeah yeah, it is also obsessed

7:23

with his legacy in

7:25

a different way, in a different way. All

7:28

right, Oh no, it doesn't start

7:30

Okay, so the first episode

7:32

doesn't start with a new terror. It starts

7:35

with like nine eleven. Uh. And I think the character

7:37

who's going to grow up to be our our our

7:39

ranch militia leader in New York at nine

7:41

eleven, seeing the towers at the building. So that

7:43

that seems like what we're going on with this this prologue

7:46

here. So that's good. We're kicking

7:48

it off with the nine and eleven and then we move

7:50

right in with chapter one to Brett Hawthorne

7:52

in Afghanistan, Brigadier

7:55

General Bret Hawthorne looked at his M nine

7:57

magazine and cursed to himself empty.

8:00

He was set up against a mud brick hovel in the city's

8:02

poor part of town. Even in Kabul there was a

8:04

large income gap, and felt the sweat trickle

8:07

down cold between his shoulder blades. He

8:09

hadn't been alone for years. General has always

8:11

had a personal security detail, but things

8:13

had gone hellishly wrong. Hawthorne

8:15

was a bear of a man, six three in his

8:17

bare feet.

8:18

And let's

8:21

talk about this a minute. I've

8:24

gotten criticized in the past for making fun

8:26

of Ben Shapiro's shortness. And it's

8:29

true that you shouldn't make fun of people for being short.

8:32

Some people in this very room short,

8:34

most of us, most of us, most

8:36

of us except for you and myself. Yeah, I'm

8:39

not tall. I'm There are more

8:41

there taller people than me

8:44

in this room. There are there are, And it's

8:46

fine, there's nothing nothing, It

8:48

says nothing about the personage. But also,

8:54

well, so here here's the other thing. For many,

8:56

many, many many years, Ben

8:59

Shapiro claimed that he was

9:02

my actual height five eight I

9:04

did, I was unaware of He is not we

9:08

as we all know. Um.

9:10

So it's just one of those things where, Okay,

9:13

you're gonna lie about this a

9:15

lot something

9:18

I don't know. I

9:20

don't know I'm making that up, but I've heard that. But

9:22

he's been lying about his height for years. It

9:24

is funny, and it's funny that his clear self

9:26

insert character Bret Hawthorne is

9:29

a bear of a man, six three in his

9:31

bare feet and

9:33

two pounds in his underwear. So,

9:36

yeah, what I'm struck by this is like, there's

9:38

all these stories Ben Shapiro, Sorry,

9:45

no, no, it's fine. Um

9:48

uh. Ben Shapiro wanted

9:51

to be a Hollywood screen run and

9:53

he's film to add of that, There's

9:56

just these few sentences. I just can

9:58

feel him being like this would make a great movie,

10:00

you know, like he's writing it, Like those

10:03

guys of Hollywood won't make it. I'll write this, you

10:06

know. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

10:08

also wondering as a gun guy. So the M nine is the

10:10

nine millimeter Bretta side arm that

10:12

was up until recently,

10:15

the standard side arm of the military. It

10:17

says he looks at his M nine magazine. Now

10:20

there's a couple of things that that makes me think. So, if you're actually

10:22

shooting a handgun like that and

10:25

it's empty, the slide locks back,

10:27

and you can immediately tell that it's empty because

10:29

the slide is locked back. Uh.

10:32

At no point, if you're in a firefight, would

10:34

you reject the magazine and look at the magazine

10:37

to determine whether or not your weapon was empty?

10:39

Um? And I'm not I'm

10:41

not sure how Brett Hawthorne

10:44

combat general. That

10:47

doesn't make any sense as an opening, Like it makes

10:49

sense if he was like looked like the slide locked back

10:51

of Brett Hawthorne's M nine magazine and he

10:53

cursed to himself empty like that makes gun

10:56

sense. I can explain this to you. Ben

10:58

isn't know he's talking. Thank

11:01

you for that, Katie. Um,

11:05

I have to back up real quick.

11:07

We're

11:11

doing really well. I need you, Robert

11:13

real quick to read the

11:15

blurb at the beginning one more time with Iron

11:17

Rand. Oh about Iron Rand. Okay,

11:20

that's the whole thing. We're scrolling back. We're scrolling

11:23

back true allegiance, Meet our new

11:25

Iron Randy by Salon dot Com.

11:27

Okay, that's it. So here's

11:29

the thing, folks. Uh,

11:31

if you were to go to Salon dot com

11:34

Salon dot com and you were to look for that phrase,

11:36

you'd find an article. That article

11:38

is called meet

11:41

our New Iron Rand colon. Ben

11:43

Shapiro's ham fisted propaganda

11:45

fiction is even worse than you guessed.

11:49

Subheader the wingnut pundit

11:51

resents the liberal tone of TV but turns

11:53

out cartoonish, right lenning prose

11:56

unreal? Thank you for looking up?

11:58

That is that lead of

12:03

somebody's can

12:05

you can do whatever you want? It's amazing. It's the funniest

12:07

thing I think Ben has ever done. It's

12:10

the it's it's everything about

12:12

him. We need regulation of book blur.

12:14

Taking that blurb like

12:18

no one would want to be like, oh I'm the new Iron

12:20

Rand, Like already it's like, that's not like praise

12:23

that you would want to promote.

12:25

But the fact that it's just pulled from this really

12:27

really mean headline is so good, you

12:29

guys, there's so much more to say about combat.

12:32

General Bret Hawthorne. Okay, okay,

12:34

oh my god, okay, So so Bret

12:36

Hawthorne, who is pounds in his underwear,

12:39

has a graying blonde crew cut and a face carved

12:41

of granite Um God, not not a

12:43

face that looks carved of granite, but a face carved

12:46

band whatever, horrifying

12:48

reality for him. I know what a nightmare

12:50

for Brett Hawthorn. I mean, I'm kind of into this. It's like

12:53

a fantasy thing now, toxic masculinity.

12:55

He can never change his face. Feel

12:57

like he's touching himself when he writes about Bret Hawthorne,

13:00

combat general and not at all a Ben Shapiro

13:02

stand in. So it's so Brett

13:04

is looking up at the blown up buildings of Kabul

13:07

and he he could see the Kabul

13:09

Serena Hotel burning. The new coalition

13:11

government had bragged about the hotel is the standard

13:13

bear for the modernization of the city with its

13:15

historically imitative Islamic architecture,

13:17

satellite TV and wireless internet. Now

13:20

the flames looked at the windows as ashes floated

13:22

down on the city, and I feel like he

13:24

brings up that it's Islamic architecture

13:26

for a reason to make it seem like even more of a bad

13:28

idea. No, I'm just being specific

13:31

in my pros, like I'm sure that

13:33

if knows what Islamic architecture

13:36

looks like for one thing. Um, No,

13:38

I'm sure if you were to control f that

13:41

file and just type Islamic, it

13:43

would come up as like a

13:45

descriptor for so many things they

13:48

do not need that word. I bet you're right, we're

13:50

indexing right now. I'm gonna move right along to uh.

13:52

So it goes on to him talking about how a few short

13:55

this is pretty great too. Actually, a

13:57

few short years ago, Afghanistan had seemed

13:59

to be on the up swig. The talent had

14:01

been on the run, hiding in the mountains of the Tora

14:04

Bora region sally Forth. Every

14:06

so often it hit a supply chain. The coalition

14:08

forces had been sustimate. So a few years

14:10

ago everything they'd been great in Afghanistan. The

14:12

arrogant president and Hathor

14:15

knew all this because he had designed the strategy,

14:17

and now the strategy had gone to ship. Well,

14:20

Bret Hawthorne thought to himself, at least I can

14:22

tell those stupid bastards I told you

14:24

so. It

14:27

is delightful

14:29

to see who thinks

14:32

that he is. Oh

14:34

boy, you guys in Islamic

14:37

is fewer times than

14:39

I thought. But I'm already seeing some religion

14:41

of peace talk that I'm sure is going to be fun.

14:45

Oh boy, the all the words

14:47

that are available in in like the little search, because

14:49

you only get the few words around it that late

14:51

stage Islam is peace, pussy shit. That's

14:55

that's that's a sentence for you. I don't

14:57

know the context yet, but I'm sure we'll learn.

14:59

I love the idea that has been is writing

15:01

this. He's like his des typing and he has a cigar in

15:03

his mouth that he will never light. No, he's just

15:05

because it hurts his lungs. Yes, exactly. Yeah, he

15:07

hates the taste and hates what it does to him.

15:10

He's got to have the

15:12

cigar and like a glass of scotch

15:15

that is mostly ice that he doesn't sit

15:17

from cost him three dollars,

15:21

you've got to savor it. So

15:25

um, we're gonna talk about Bret Hawthorne's background

15:27

now because we start like a great writer. He starts

15:30

in the action se right, pinned

15:32

down under fired, Islamic

15:34

hotel is burning. He grips your right away.

15:37

You're like exciting, like, oh yeah, it's like die hard but iron

15:39

Rand, Yeah, dying, dying

15:42

Rand. And now now we go back

15:44

to let's learn about Bret hawthorn'sground.

15:47

Bret Hawthorne was the youngest general in the

15:49

American military. He'd grown up lower middle

15:51

class in Chicago. His mother a teacher, his father

15:53

a salesman company. I'm

15:55

sorry, at some point you got his search how

15:57

many times he mentioned Chicago? Oh? Boy? Is

16:00

he Is that a thing for him? Um? It's a thing for him

16:02

because of Obama's thing for him, because of guns. Is a thing

16:04

for him, because of black people in general. Um.

16:08

Boys. So half of the time Chicago's

16:10

mentioned in this book, it's the South side of Chicago,

16:13

which is the baddest part of town. And if

16:15

you go there, you better be aware for

16:18

a man namely Roy Brown, bad,

16:21

bad, bad man in the hole damn town,

16:25

madder than a junkyard dog. That's right, Katie,

16:28

That's absolutely correct. What that's

16:30

a great So he'd

16:33

been a shy, gentle quiet kid, built like

16:36

a read but he learned one skill pretty

16:38

quickly at Thomas Edison High how to talk

16:40

his way from a bad out of a bad situ. O

16:42

good lord. Okay.

16:45

So he learned this from Derek Um because

16:47

Brett, Yeah, I think Derek's

16:50

gonna be a black inner city kid

16:52

who teaches him how to be cool. That's

16:54

my guess. So

16:57

Brett sat by himself a lot at lunch because he wasn't

17:00

one of the Irish kids. He wasn't one of the Italian kids.

17:02

He made the mistake of trying to befriend a couple of

17:04

black kids that hadn't gone well. He'd

17:06

ended up with a black eye and a few new vocabulary

17:09

words. I'm sorry,

17:14

it'll be any shaps. It is, this is,

17:17

it's every single thing, he says. You're like, so, did this

17:19

literally happened to you? You had a bad experience in

17:22

this in your life. No, I don't think this actually happened.

17:24

No. I think he imagined that if he had tried

17:26

to talk about it's

17:29

the thing that you do where you like imagine

17:31

conversations with people and you get into an argument

17:34

about them, like, well, this is what I would say, then that's

17:37

what this is. This is his Yeah. So,

17:40

because I'm trying to befriend black kids is

17:42

a bad idea, he said, because

17:45

of the words you'll learn. He sat alone

17:48

until he made the mistake of a city

17:50

of looking up one day and standing standing

17:53

above him, glaring at him, was a behemoth, a

17:55

black kid named Yard. Nobody knew

17:58

his real name. Everybody, he just

18:00

called him Yard because he stood on played

18:02

on the school football team, stood six ft five,

18:05

clocked in in a solid two hundred pounds.

18:09

He's it's very funny, but I'm

18:12

sorry. Uh, nobody knows

18:14

his name, but he's on the football

18:16

team. Yes, no one knows his name. What's

18:19

on his jersey? No

18:21

one knows his name Yard, No one

18:24

knows his dis blame, unbelievable.

18:27

Then he's just number twelve. Nobody

18:29

knows the star football player's name. No,

18:32

he's Yard. Never

18:35

mind, I'm not mad where he goes and

18:37

nobody even cared to find out where he got that nick,

18:39

I'm not mad, you're mad. You're the ones. How

18:43

we all doing great? Never been better?

18:47

So Yard stood six ft five,

18:49

clocked in in a solid tune at eighty pounds, and looked like

18:51

he was headed straight for a lifetime of person work.

18:53

Oh jesus, are

18:56

you kidding me? Excuse

18:59

me? What does that look like? Then?

19:06

Don't be off put by his laughing. Just

19:08

how we deal with this pain we're

19:11

to We're not even two pages into

19:13

the chapter one. This

19:15

is absolute trash, headed

19:18

for a life. Why is he headed? Five? Because

19:20

he's a tall black man. He's the star

19:22

football team, Ben. Maybe he's

19:25

not for prison.

19:28

The coach loved him, everyone else feared

19:30

him. Okay, all

19:32

right, Yeah, So Brett looks up

19:35

and this causes Yard to attack him.

19:37

Um, oh my god.

19:40

I thought that Brett was a vehemoth man

19:42

as well. I thought he was. That's

19:46

a good point, Katie. But he was small in school.

19:48

Okay, he had a growth spurt once

19:53

he started using gud. Okay, that makes

19:56

sense. At some point he turned from Ben Shapiro

19:58

literally into Ward Jim roll right.

20:00

It's just like this, like eventually

20:03

he turned into a bear. Right. Ben's

20:06

just waiting like my

20:09

dad didn't. He's just watching Brave

20:12

on a loop, just like that's going to be me one day.

20:14

I'm going to be the bear. No, that's liberal propaganda.

20:17

Also Frozen, definitely

20:20

liberal propaganda. So

20:22

guys, this is I looked

20:24

ahead, and it's very bad. So Ben's

20:27

Brett is sitting down at school and and

20:30

Yard looks at him and he makes the mistake

20:32

of looking up, and then Yard mumbles something

20:34

in his face. What said Brett? I

20:36

said, Yard? Groud growled, did you

20:38

just call me in word? Because

20:41

I just heard you call me inward.

20:44

Yeah, did you call him N word? No? I don't

20:46

think he did, but I mean in his head Ben

20:49

Shapiro did when he came up with this character,

20:51

Like he's like thinking

20:53

this and oh my gosh,

20:56

okay, you know what isn't headed

20:58

for a lifetime of prison work outs. I can't

21:00

begin to imagine the products and services that support

21:03

this podcast. I was going to guess Yard.

21:05

Actually, Yard probably makes

21:07

millions of dollars as a as

21:09

a talented football player who just got angry

21:12

because Ben Shapiro absolutely called him

21:14

the N word. Cool.

21:17

It still counts even if it's under your breath, Ben, Yeah,

21:20

even if it's under your breath every waking hour

21:22

of the day. All

21:26

right, products, we're

21:34

back, and we are just slowly

21:37

making our way through this book. We

21:39

did the we did the blurbs. We did

21:41

we got the description,

21:44

the physical description of the main character. I don't

21:46

think we're going to get far through this book, you guys. I

21:50

don't care because the next chapter is the President.

21:53

But I want to know how this situation with Yard works.

21:55

Oh good God. Yard's

21:57

hand came down on Brett's shoulder, heavy is

22:00

doom. Brett could feel his bowels begin to

22:02

give way when a smallish hand emerged on emerged

22:05

on yard shoulder. Oh my god,

22:07

what a bad right,

22:11

so bad? You remember when you we've all

22:13

had a hand emerged on us, just

22:16

punches right through like the

22:18

chest burster. Oh

22:24

my god. Ben

22:27

Shapiro writes the way monks

22:30

fuck just like badly,

22:34

badly, but

22:37

also constantly apparently. Yeah, yeah,

22:40

boy, okay. Uh so

22:42

a hand emerchuse on a

22:45

black hand. Yards swiveled ponderously

22:48

to face down the person connected with the hand ponderously

22:51

ponderously. Yeah, this

22:53

is his black friend Derek, who defends

22:56

uh Ben Shapiro for not saying

22:58

the INN word. Yeah, yeah,

23:03

so it's good. It's it's it's good.

23:05

So Derek, Derek is his friend, Um who

23:07

such an obvious stand in for Ben. Yeah,

23:10

it's incredibly obvious. And

23:13

Derek is a stand in for the friend that been, the

23:15

black friend. Ben Shapiro has never made a wish

23:18

that he had so that these situations

23:20

could be avoided, and who would stand up

23:22

for him every time on Twitter he got called out as a

23:24

racist. Actually, my

23:27

friend Derek defended

23:29

me when I thought the N word a couple

23:31

of times at

23:34

the definite future prisoner. Unbelievable.

23:38

Oh my gosh. Okay, so,

23:40

uh one thing I want you to do at some point

23:42

is uh do a search for the word honky,

23:45

because I feel like, yes, definitely. But

23:48

first we have to talk about Brett's

23:51

growth spurt. It's

23:55

going to happen between his junior and senior

23:57

years of high school. Brett finally hit his growth spurt.

24:00

Like his dad, he bloomed late, but when he did, he put

24:02

on muscle and height like a racehorse. He

24:04

sprouted five inches to six ft two. He broadened

24:06

through the chest, filling out to a healthy to fifteen.

24:09

The coaches that ignored him in high school, but at

24:11

the Citadel he goes to military school, he

24:13

quickly became their favorite. Yeah,

24:16

it's a real sad inside into

24:19

his psyche of what he desperately

24:21

wants. I feel like I've learned so

24:23

much more about Benny Shap's

24:25

just from the first couple of pages. Not hate

24:28

him, Look, I mean that

24:30

it's sad. We're all we're all suffering from the

24:32

same problem, we just express it in different

24:34

ways. And Ben has done this since then. Um.

24:38

I uh, I've

24:40

thought about this before, um, specifically

24:42

with Jordan Peterson doctor

24:44

doctor George Yes

24:47

Um, Jordan Bumblebee Peterson, uh

24:50

in that he so he tries

24:52

to explain things to people, and he like slips

24:54

in some I think odious views, and he

24:57

does it language

24:59

that seems like demic, but it's also kind of contradictory.

25:02

It's like it's it's if

25:04

you pass what he says, it's not great.

25:07

Um, and he just sort of talks and talks and talks. I've

25:09

always wanted him to stop

25:12

what he's doing and write a novel

25:15

because I know that if he writes a novel, then

25:18

his views will be very revealed and a tremendous

25:21

here not like not intentionally

25:23

necessarily, it just it'll lose out of him, like here's

25:25

here's what I think about everybody on the page.

25:27

He will write a novel that he thinks is about

25:30

like a decent man running

25:32

for president and saving the country, and everyone

25:34

will point out ten minutes after it's released,

25:36

like, oh, you wrote mind com exactly

25:39

exactly. You'll be like all

25:41

these all these emotions and feelings you're talking about,

25:43

and like what you think needs to like to take taking

25:45

the chaos and turning into order everything you're

25:47

writing about there will be like a

25:49

three page part where Jordan Peterson talks

25:51

about seeing his first acidic jew and it will be

25:54

like a word for word almost what

25:59

Yeah, and one will know it until it's published. He

26:01

won't know it. And uh, I definitely

26:04

want him to do that. And I'm glad that Ben has done

26:06

that. It shares a lot. So

26:08

I'm just gonna skim the next couple of pages because

26:11

we've got to move on to the president.

26:13

Um. But yeah, so when he was twenty

26:16

two, he got sent to Saudi Arabia and

26:18

and and missed Operation Desert

26:20

Storm for the most part. Um, and

26:23

he was really bummed that we let the curds

26:25

die, which I didn't hear Ben speak up a whole lot

26:27

when we abandon them in seriously, why

26:29

not in a position he's changed. Yeah, it's

26:32

interesting. Um, he meets someone named

26:34

Ellen, who I don't care about. Um,

26:37

they have a kid together. Um, he's

26:39

in Kosovo as a captain. By September

26:41

eleventh, he's a major. A major. By

26:43

September eleventh, he was a major, a major who, by

26:45

simple coincidence, knew Peshtow. So

26:49

one of the most simple coincidence, a simple

26:51

coincidence. He learned one of the most complex

26:53

and difficult to master languages on the face

26:55

of the planet, just as a coincidence,

26:58

Like you do, I, I was just drawn there.

27:00

There was no reason. Here's the best

27:02

part. He's one of the first one

27:04

on the ground in Afghanistan. And uh he

27:07

knew little of the country's culture, but his knowledge

27:09

of the language made him a valuable commodity. So do

27:12

you know a little of a culture but noah

27:14

language, How

27:20

did you learn that language? Yeah? How do you

27:22

learn Pashto? And nothing about Afghan culture?

27:25

Fans view of the world. It's amazing,

27:27

it's like and it's like, yeah, he did like a matrix.

27:30

He like he like jacked into the matrix and

27:32

he learned the language. But nothing, but nothing

27:34

at all, not a goddamn thing about

27:36

Afghan culture. So

27:40

he hangs out with the Northern Alliance. Some rotton

27:42

there's a Rosetta stone, the

27:45

Pashto Rosetta stone. Coincidence, missed

27:47

all the culture stuff. Cool? Uh,

27:50

Yeah, he hung out with the Northern Alliance

27:52

and it was all very Lawrence of Arabia, Brett

27:54

thought, except that Peter O'Toole had never had to

27:56

deal with roadside bombs or donkeys laden

27:58

with explosives or the were of the opium

28:01

trade. Such a good point, and it's interesting

28:03

he describes it. Is

28:05

he like is he tempted?

28:08

Right? There's like half it is what I think about

28:10

the world, and half it's like what if it's

28:12

like could I do? Ah?

28:16

Oh yeah, I'm sorry. It's

28:19

so good, it's so good. Okay.

28:21

Um, so yeah, the

28:24

administration makes a terrible deal that

28:26

that dooms the effort in Afghanistan,

28:29

and Brett Hawthorne is there as

28:31

it's all falling apart and he's with a CNN crew

28:33

and he saves the day. Um

28:36

he's he'd been ushering the CNN crew

28:38

around because, as he told his wife, got to keep

28:40

those schmucks from reporting that we eat Muslims.

28:43

What wait

28:46

wait Robert, So he's

28:50

he's digging. He's making a dig

28:52

at the mainstream media, obviously,

28:56

but admitting the candidates, but

28:59

like the yeah, like doing

29:01

saying the awful things like a good thing.

29:04

He doesn't because CNN would report that American

29:06

soldiers eat Muslims because they hate American

29:08

soldiers and don't, for example, respond

29:11

worshipfully when we fire missiles at

29:14

an empty air base in Syria and talked about

29:16

the beauty of our weapons. They don't do that. They hate

29:18

the American military. Oh then

29:21

I hate them exactly, all right.

29:24

So a little dig in here about how lazy the CNN

29:26

people are. And then Brett

29:30

turned to speak. This is after the camera says they've had eno

29:32

footage. Brett turned to speak, and from behind the cameraman

29:34

he saw a child on a donkey about three feet

29:36

away. His service weapon, a Baretta M

29:38

nine, was in his hand before he even felt

29:41

it leave. He's

29:43

a kid on a weird

29:50

little racist So

29:57

I bet he's right. I bet he's right. Oh, he's absolutely

29:59

right. And and the evil scene and cameraman

30:01

zooms in eagerly as the situation degenerates,

30:04

because he wants to wants to capture the kid

30:06

being shot by Yeah, okay,

30:09

we're going to go on to the president here. I don't need I don't

30:11

need more of this description

30:14

of the child dying. No, I don't

30:16

know that the child. I'm sure he saves the child. And the

30:18

evil scene and cameraman is angry at this. President

30:23

Prescott. Okay, that's

30:25

a good name. That's a I mean, that's a solid. President.

30:30

We simply he didn't do like a very

30:32

like African uh

30:38

oh rock bo bomb something

30:40

like that, President black

30:43

Man, No, he's Mark Prescott.

30:45

Alright, okay, solid solid.

30:49

We simply can't pay for it, Sir. White House

30:51

Chief of Staff Tommy Bradley was standing over

30:53

the President's desk in the Oval Office, a sheaf

30:55

of budget papers in his hand, crumpled wrinkled

30:58

papers covered in red notes. Than members

31:00

just didn't add up. President Mark Prescott

31:02

didn't care listen to be tom Oh

31:06

my god, oh how transparent can

31:08

you be? That's so that's like it's also really

31:10

poorly written. It

31:12

is because we go from like, yeah, the President's

31:15

chief of staff standing over a

31:18

sheaf of budget papers in his hand, crumpled wrinkled

31:20

papers covered in red notes. That's not even a sentence.

31:23

Crumpled wrinkled papers covered in red notes is

31:25

not a full sentence. There's no action in

31:27

that sentence. It

31:32

is a creative So it's like a it's like palauk

31:34

style. Yeah, he's got that, like it's like two

31:36

words sentences, you know. And yes,

31:39

I was going to say this has a very

31:41

Palinuki right, yeah, Palu

31:45

palanukish way

31:47

too generous. So,

31:52

um, listen to me, Tommy said, the

31:54

president, my reelection relies on our

31:56

ability to secure funding for this action. You

31:58

know that, I know that the Poles it. We don't

32:00

have a choice in the matter. Okay, so what's this what's

32:03

this action about? Yeah, Oh, he's afraid

32:05

of becoming a Jimmy Carter was like, what's he alluding

32:07

to? With like, like regards

32:09

to Obama, I'm still we're awhile

32:12

into this kind. I can't figure out responsibility

32:14

what they can't pay for? Um.

32:17

I wonder if we'll ever find out there

32:20

was a stock market crash that's apparently this Democratic

32:22

president's fault, just like the stock

32:24

market crash in two thousand and eight didn't start

32:28

in the Bush minutes stration

32:31

because it was a Bomba's fault that it crashed

32:33

in the Bush administration. I mean, it's a Bomb's fault for being

32:35

black. That is absolutely

32:37

true. And I bet if they'd been at

32:39

high school with Ben Shapiro, they

32:41

would have had an interaction. Yeah. I bet if uh

32:46

him in high school, be like, you're gonna go to prison, prison,

32:50

and nobody knows your name and nobody knows

32:53

your name Star football player that everybody

32:55

knows unreal,

32:58

so good. The uemployment rates crap

33:01

climbed me on ten percent and is headed towards the mark

33:04

if you counted those who had stopped looking for a job.

33:06

The real unemployment rate was closer to which

33:09

was the unemployment rate during the Great Depression UM

33:12

and never was close to that during

33:15

Obama's administration. UM

33:18

cool. So Prescott

33:20

did what Prescott knew how to do. He

33:23

survived the easiest

33:25

way to survive in his predecessor's

33:27

wars, no matter what the cost, and then

33:29

pump up the spending at home. There was no glory

33:31

to be one on the poppy fields of Afghanistan.

33:34

Ever Lasting glory didn't come in the form of military

33:36

victory in this day and age. It came in the form of everlasting

33:39

social programs that grew and inured to the

33:41

benefit of all Americans. He's saying, that's

33:43

benefit. He's saying,

33:45

not fighting a hopeless wars that waste

33:47

all of our money and and benefit national

33:50

security not one iota, and instead

33:52

spending the money to help Americans is bad.

33:55

That it's cowardly. This is unbelievably

33:57

every pundit should before

34:00

to write a novel like

34:03

I want to know what's in your soul. I want to know what's

34:05

in there. Yeah,

34:07

I've read one and it's bad. I

34:10

run for president. I will publish my bad

34:12

novel. Just like spooky

34:14

stories and animalphous parodies, Cody,

34:18

it's not fair to call them animorphs parodies.

34:20

They are animorphus erotic fiction, and I think

34:22

you know what I will say, erotic literature. I

34:26

don't wait, you've read it and I

34:28

haven't. Thank

34:31

you so much, Thank you so much

34:34

for saying it is. My

34:37

book is going to be just for

34:40

kids, for kids about being It's

34:45

going to be a girl in her imaginary friend Donkey.

34:47

That's a good size. That's a good idea for a book

34:51

less thirsty than Cody's book,

34:53

which is drier than the Sahara.

34:58

It's desperate. But he was

35:00

thirty seven minutes late. We can we can rise

35:02

him a little one note, Cody, Uh, there's

35:05

actually no such thing as a funk

35:07

panther. Prove

35:09

it. I dare

35:12

you to prove that. Somehow, I think

35:14

there's a fun panther in this book. Yeah, several

35:17

couple of type in panther. Let's

35:19

see how many time? Um,

35:22

I wonder if the word funk disappear in this at all, I bet

35:24

not. I bet he. Oh my gosh, no, nineteen

35:26

matches. He is Brent asterisk

35:29

bred badass, is a military loose

35:31

cannon off. He doesn't

35:33

give a fun Oh boy, fuck

35:36

you, motherfucker. Get the funk out of my hood to

35:38

get him in the funk off my border. Fuck

35:40

these animals, That's what I was

35:42

looking for. Unless he's actually talking

35:44

about fucking animals, and I'm

35:47

going to pop right over there and see if it's Oh,

35:51

the Taliban had used the hangar as an execution

35:53

post. There was a line of bodies lying on the floor, and many

35:56

of them wearing American uniforms. Those bodies have been

35:58

mutilated obscenely. They done it

36:00

slowly, that they'd enjoyed themselves. Animals,

36:02

he said softly, fuck these animals.

36:06

Okay, so not actually fucking animals. Yeah,

36:11

that's cool. I was gonna

36:14

comment on the poorly

36:17

written aspects of it. Is badly written.

36:19

All. Yeah, more about the

36:22

president. Okay, FDR

36:24

was worshiped not because of World War two but

36:27

because of social security. Wait,

36:29

who's speaking right now? The president? This is just a rant.

36:31

Bins going on it again. About

36:34

the president who can't afford something that

36:36

we haven't been told what it is yet. I

36:38

love this is just like one of his town

36:41

hall dot com like essays

36:43

that he's like, they're not going to publish this, I'll put it in my book.

36:47

Oh my god. So

36:49

Prescott spent he spent on green technologies,

36:52

on education programs, on food

36:54

stamps, and highways. It's

37:00

fucking highway. He's going to use this

37:03

so the pores can drive to work the

37:05

pavos. I I

37:07

love that. So far. The message of the first

37:10

page of the President Prescott chapter is

37:12

that he's a coward for spending money on highway?

37:14

Is it not Afghanistan? Were

37:18

you scared of the guns? I

37:21

am, Why don't you invest

37:23

in human beings? Lies? Unbelievable,

37:28

unbelievable. So yeah, this obviously spending

37:30

money on Americans rather than Afghanistan

37:33

destroys the economy. He's making a great point. Yeah,

37:35

he's making a very important point. Um

37:38

and yeah. And so President Prescott starts to doubt

37:40

whether or not he's going to win a second term,

37:42

and then a miracle. In

37:45

the middle of the night, Prescott woke up with a phrase

37:47

ringing in his brain over and over. It

37:49

was as though a higher power had placed them in his mind.

37:51

He grabbed a pin from his bedside drawer and wrote it down,

37:54

work freedom, the work freedom

37:56

program. That's how God's

37:59

or yesterday. Yeah, he woke up with the

38:01

melody in his head and he had to write it down. So he

38:04

kept going to all his friends and me like, does this is

38:06

this anything? Okay?

38:08

Wait? What this is? Like a really gross

38:11

Ben thinks he's being smart, but this is a Holocaust

38:13

reference that he's making. He's comparing

38:16

social welfare programs to the Holocaust.

38:19

Let me let me read you this paragraph. Everyone

38:21

recognized the value of freedom, but what did that mean other

38:23

than the right to a job? Freedom and nothing? If you couldn't

38:26

put bread in your children's mouths at night? And America

38:28

was a country of workers. Freedom was work, and work

38:30

was freedom. Work freedom, simple,

38:32

easy, repeatable, genius. What

38:35

was stamped on the gates of Auschwitz and a number of

38:38

other death camps are bite mocked. Free work

38:40

brings freedom. That's literally

38:42

what he is literally compared jobs

38:44

program. Yeah, I'm fucking

38:47

believable. Yeah, it's believable. It's

38:49

believable that you

38:53

won't who won't you know who won't make ghoulish

38:55

holocaust comparisons to score a cheap political

38:58

point against a fake president, Jordan Peter And wait,

39:00

never mind, Hine Rand,

39:02

no ship uh

39:07

would be products

39:10

and services, Katie. I can't believe

39:13

that was right. That was a real nailed it. You

39:15

nailed it. These products and services will

39:18

in fact bring freedom to view

39:21

work freedom, the work freedom products

39:23

that advertise on this show. We're

39:31

back, gang. It's time for me to

39:33

admit something now forty or seven minutes into this,

39:35

which is that um, when

39:37

we when we decided we're going to do another one of these, I

39:40

really agonized over which book to choose, and

39:42

I really frustrated

39:45

Sophie by going back and forth. We had a number of

39:47

contenders for this, and I was worried that

39:49

the Ben Shapira book wouldn't be a good idea because

39:51

I was like, it's probably just like a really lame

39:53

thriller like he wrote like the like he had

39:56

like a script for a generic action movie and he wrote

39:58

it, and we're just gonna be like reading through turgid

40:00

prose about shooting people and it's just going to

40:02

be very boring. I would have to

40:04

be like twenty minutes and be like, Okay, guys, I'm sorry,

40:06

we gotta like revamp and figure out something else. I've

40:09

learned so much about it. I believe

40:12

that this was a script he pitched

40:14

around and then, and

40:17

I am certain that in his head his

40:19

dream was that, like, I'm going to pitch this script

40:21

and myself as a screenwriter. But once they meet me,

40:24

they'll be like, the only person who can play

40:26

play Brett's

40:30

like John Wayne was short and built the sets

40:32

around him. You got to change it. So Brett's

40:34

actually a short, obnoxious guy. It's

40:37

actually better and you're short on camera. It's

40:40

better for lighting purposes. Man. Then

40:42

we love the script, but the protagonist needs to

40:44

be more unpleasant to listen to. All

40:46

Right, give us some more all right, I we

40:49

only have time. We we we will not get through

40:51

enough of this. You know what, Robert, that's fine.

40:53

You know, I think it's disgusting.

40:56

I think it's I think it's embarrassing

40:58

that we haven't gotten through this whole thing anything.

41:01

That's fine, But we gotta do like a ten part series.

41:04

So we finished it, Okay, So

41:06

what should we what should we what

41:08

should we go through next? I feel like going through chapter chapter,

41:12

We're just gonna get bogged down. Is there anything you want me to search

41:14

for? Try to We'll

41:16

have a question. So when when he ran into

41:19

that future prisoner? Um,

41:22

and he didn't say the N word,

41:24

but he thought the N word? Yeah? Was

41:27

it typed out? Was the word type? Oh? Yeah? Oh

41:29

yeah, So I would say search for the

41:31

other instances. I also wouldn't mind hearing

41:33

about this. What was the woman character? What

41:36

was her description? What did she do?

41:39

Um? Oh, do you mean the militia

41:42

leader? Yeah? Well I know that her first

41:44

chapter starts with her baking cookies for a swat

41:46

team that's coming after her. Yes,

41:49

no, I mean mind checking that

41:51

Outum, all right, are you absolutely if

41:55

there? I will lie about a lot of things to Cody, the

41:58

coronavirus, for example, Yeah, but

42:00

I will never lie about Ben Shapiro's

42:02

pros Sola Dad

42:05

Central Valley, California. The

42:07

swat team didn't expect it the first time she

42:09

brought them cookies. Nobody brings the swat

42:11

team cookies, but Sola Dad Ramirez

42:14

Dyes, well,

42:17

Solad Dead Ramirez knew the value of good press,

42:19

and she baked mean chocolate chip cookies.

42:21

No, oatmeal raising here, she said, good

42:23

naturedly, handing out the meltingly hot treats

42:25

to them in wearing full military here and

42:28

carrying M force set to burst

42:32

number one. Ben, does

42:34

he mean they were about to come? No? Um, So

42:37

military grade M fours

42:40

and similar weapons based off the A

42:42

R platform UM have a

42:44

burst fire mode which does a three round

42:46

burst in in addition to semi automatic. No

42:49

one would use it in that situation if you are

42:51

a semi automatic is primarily for killing,

42:54

like for actually trying to take aim shots.

42:56

So if you are entering a building in the

42:58

thought that you might have a gunfight, you're not going

43:00

to have your rifles set on berts. Sorry,

43:03

it's just very Yeah. Also,

43:05

um, if just this

43:08

is nitpicking, meltingly hot, something

43:11

is melting we as we the reader who assume

43:13

that they're hot. You don't need to me.

43:16

Yeah, it's very awkward. Um, they

43:20

all eat the cookies, which I

43:25

feel like it's a bad call for a swat team

43:27

entering a hostile You got to take

43:30

the food the

43:32

person you're rating. Um is

43:35

this Wait? So okay, so this woman,

43:38

um is the cookie maker? Because

43:43

also there's the other woman right there was like his wife

43:45

that a kid. Yeah, she's unconsequential, right,

43:48

So that that's what like, there's nothing else about

43:51

So she's a right wing militia leader, I am going

43:53

to guests, But she also knows her gender

43:56

role and how knows her way around a kitchen. Yeah,

43:59

meltingly hot cookies. It seems

44:01

like she's a ranch owner. And there's

44:03

the e p A ruled that there's

44:06

a type of rare fish um that was

44:08

in danger from water over use in the river and

44:11

they were stopping her from from doing her important

44:13

farm work. Um, and we're we're going

44:15

to confiscate her property if she didn't

44:17

start stop watering her plants. Um.

44:21

So h that's a way to

44:23

frame it, I think. So. I think it's a mix

44:25

of that and like what happened with the Bondi's god,

44:28

yep cool. But

44:31

yeah, but she she does know how to bake, and

44:33

that's important for a woman, she protested.

44:36

She sued it didn't matter, according to the government,

44:38

that her husband's father had bought the farm

44:40

worked it up from nothing. It didn't matter that her husband

44:42

had worked his heart out, almost literally on the

44:45

farm, keeling over at the ripe old age of fifty

44:47

two while grazing those damn cattle. It didn't

44:49

matter that she had fifty some employees and their

44:51

families depended on her. All that mattered

44:53

was the smelt that damn fish. It's

44:56

definitely the exactly

44:59

yeah it is, it is, and it kills

45:01

all her cows. So she Oh

45:04

my god, there's even a reference to you guys ever done

45:06

like a lot of driving up the Five from Los Angeles

45:09

nurds. You know how they have all those like Congress made dust

45:11

bowl Pelosi even there's even a direct

45:13

reference to that. They're making her

45:15

the character who put those signs up. You

45:18

know what I've always wondered. I have to drive

45:21

up there frequently because my family lives in

45:23

the Bay Area, So I make that drive a

45:25

lot, done a dozens of time, and I'm

45:27

always wondering, who did this? Are

45:33

there any ones that say, stopped

45:35

by for my meltingly hot cookies? Nope?

45:40

I wonder how solidad Ramirez

45:42

feels about immigration. Oh

45:45

boy, well, good news, Katie.

45:49

She was a week away from filing I think for

45:51

bankruptcy. Yeah, yeah, filing for bankruptcy

45:53

when she received the letter. It came from one of her former

45:55

employees. Emilio. He'd immigrated

45:58

from Mexico decades before, across the border

46:00

illegally. She'd paid him well, sponsored his citizenship,

46:02

and brought his family over to join him. He's a valuable

46:05

employee, she told her skeptical friends, and

46:07

if you were living on that side of the border, wouldn't you jump

46:09

it. He's not taking money from anybody except me, and

46:11

I'm paying him for work. He was one of the

46:13

last men to be laid off as the ranch died. She

46:16

cried the night she told him the cash had run out. He

46:18

thanked her, hugged her, and moved his family to

46:20

Los Angeles. So he writes

46:22

her a letter, Well, that's a good immigration

46:25

story. I guess. Well, I

46:28

feel like if you do a

46:30

search for Emilio, oh good Christ.

46:36

Oh no. He became almost

46:39

almost so. He and his family had

46:41

been forced to take a small apartment in East Los

46:43

Angeles, and Emilio had

46:46

gotten a job at a factory, a local one of those

46:48

classic East factors, so

46:57

their sun. Juan had been enrolled at the public high

46:59

school that's where he'd been killed.

47:02

One of his classmates apparently had tried to recruit

47:04

him into a gang when he refused, several

47:07

of the gang members found him in the bathroom. They

47:09

started punching him. Yeah, they beat him to death

47:11

for not joining a gang. Yeah, they did. Uh,

47:15

Football, gangs and

47:18

factories. It's just so

47:20

he's so simple, he's such a simple boy. So

47:24

she she refuses to pay her tax bill

47:26

and instead sends the money over to Emilio

47:28

so we can bury his his his boy, um

47:32

who didn't said no to gangs.

47:34

Yeah, and then that's why the swat team comes

47:36

after her because she's not paying her taxes because she had

47:39

to help Emilio bury his gang killed

47:41

boy. And that's what starts the standoff.

47:43

Let's stand him for the Bundy standoff that

47:45

happened when the bundees refused to actually

47:48

pay mandatory grazing fees that were

47:50

very clear and very fair for more

47:52

than a decade until finally there

47:55

was an action that was then stopped because the government

47:57

got scared because we

47:59

don't, or at least didn't live in a Yeah,

48:03

this is a rich tapestry. There's a

48:06

lot that brings up really important moral

48:08

questions and we shouldn't

48:10

mock it. No, No, it's good,

48:12

you're right, it's good. I don't mean anything.

48:15

I just said, Oh, he

48:17

talks about there's a character named Levon.

48:21

There is he talks about. Oh

48:23

my god, Levon not

48:26

a white character. Really, No, Detroit,

48:29

Michigan is where Van and

48:32

the first sentence of Levan's

48:35

chapter is Detroit was a ship hole.

48:37

But it was his ship hole. I hate this so

48:39

much. That's the way Levan Williams had

48:41

thought of it. He'd grown up in this ship hole right near eight

48:44

mile Road along stretch. It

48:46

is horrible. This is horrible. Oh my

48:48

god, I will not have Detroit

48:52

and like, just

48:56

write a book you like saw eight Mile

48:58

with Eminem and it takes place your

49:01

dorm room when you were in law school.

49:03

That's the world, you know. Oh my

49:06

god, he must right, he must talk

49:08

about rap baddles. Let's I'm just gonna

49:10

see. Oh

49:13

my god, there's no Let's see if there's hip hop or

49:15

like I'm trying to think of like, it's not his vernacular,

49:20

the words like man, why are you doing that? What

49:22

are you? Yeah?

49:25

Yeah, yeah it does. It doesn't look like we have

49:27

that problem. Thank God for small miracles, Yeah,

49:29

thank God for small miracles. Well,

49:32

guys, I don't

49:34

know how much more I mean

49:36

we could, we could, we could, we don't seme for

49:38

hours, um, but we can't

49:41

because time is Yes, Cody,

49:43

could you real quick just search for the word

49:45

Marxism. Oh my god, of course,

49:48

thank you, of course, let's just see marks.

49:51

Yeah yeah, Marxism.

49:54

Oh no, only once where um

49:56

the president's plan to uh, actually,

50:00

I'm gonna read you with the President's plan because

50:02

this is what Ben essentially calls

50:04

Marxism and socialism. This

50:07

is the president speaking, the evil president

50:09

who doesn't want us to be in unemployment.

50:14

I premise you right now that you

50:16

will not pay one additional dollar

50:18

in Texas for this program. You will

50:20

not lose your job, and if your employer

50:22

should selfishly fire you, we're

50:24

establishing a business trust to which our

50:27

businesses will contribute, which will pay

50:29

your salary during rainy days. Businesses

50:32

may try to scare you, but people are always

50:34

frightened of what they do not understand. Selfishness

50:37

must not be allowed to trump the vital liberties

50:39

of the American people. And this action

50:41

will not contribute to our national debt. It will

50:44

contribute to our collective wealth. With the

50:46

entire American population working,

50:48

produce and creating, not just eight percent

50:51

or ninety percent or even nine. We

50:53

will boost our gross domestic product exponentially.

50:58

Is like, what if there was a social safety

51:00

net? Horrible? Damn

51:04

you amazing

51:10

one? Last one? Yep, do a search for

51:12

um I Q Oh

51:14

boy, oh Cody, maybe

51:18

just a shot in the darkness. Nope,

51:21

nope, no, no, okay, that's

51:23

for his other book. This

51:26

has been not that illuminating.

51:29

I mean it has been eliminating, but only in affirming

51:32

the things that we know. Um, just for a number

51:34

for numbers, sick patriot?

51:37

Oh boy, yeah, let's see that only

51:40

two? Yeah? What ben you loser?

51:43

Yeah, Carolin America America,

51:45

unbelievable. I'm so glad you

51:48

picked this book. I am too. Yeah, he's

51:50

so glad. I am

51:52

so glad that Sophie finally insisted

51:54

that I picked this book rather than vacillating

51:57

like a fucking coward. And I am

51:59

going, did you hop right in? Right now? Um,

52:01

let's go to my orders that

52:04

reunun Yeah, I don't

52:06

want I don't want old Bennie Shaps to get any of that.

52:08

Can you feedback? Can you give feedback as

52:10

to why you want to read fund Yeah?

52:13

Yeah, you know what I will I will say, Barbara,

52:16

does that you guys want to plug your plugables? Yeah,

52:19

well, you can check out our show that we do with

52:21

Robert Worst you're ever. I'm

52:23

sure you guys know about that. Uh, and you could

52:26

check out our show Even

52:28

More News. That's our podcast. Do

52:30

you want to tell them about the other things we do? It's

52:32

a YouTube shows called some More News. You

52:35

can google it and google our names to find

52:38

all the social media accounts that

52:40

are associated with the shows and with

52:43

so personally because they exist, they

52:45

exist, They're out there with tweets.

52:48

You know what. I love these things that exist. Yeah, yeahah,

52:50

yeah, yeah yeah yeah, famous for that. Yeah.

52:54

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52:58

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53:00

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