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we want to get that hair, B. Brooke,
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you didn't have to dress up
3:28
for the last episode. Listen, you guys,
3:30
you look like a working woman. I
3:32
am not that bad. I've seen you
3:34
wear my hair. My hair was in
3:36
a bun. I've seen
3:38
you wear one. I have no makeup on. That's what you see.
3:40
I don't get ready anymore. So I'm single, but I don't get
3:42
ready. Yeah. And I hang
3:44
out with my nieces and nephews. So this is my
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my jeans. These are... This
3:49
is my jeans. This is
3:51
my shirt. I got a lot
3:53
of accessories on. Why
4:03
would we ever just do the podcast like
4:05
this? Hey guys, we're huddling. Oh
4:14
my God. Hey guys, welcome to
4:16
between the reps with Brooke, Deb
4:18
and Gina. This is our
4:20
final episode. I don't
4:24
know about you guys, but I was realizing the final episode.
4:26
It only took five years till Brooke all of
4:28
a sudden gave up on getting ready. Yeah. Fuck
4:31
it. You know what? Fuck
4:33
it. I think
4:36
we're all in the fuck it stage. It's like, um, you
4:39
know what I realized though? So if when you
4:41
guys are listening right now on our last episode,
4:43
we said that, you know, if you wanted to
4:45
write in and give us a question and all
4:47
this stuff. And I
4:49
was like, oh, we're recording before our
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podcast. We're recording this before that podcast
4:54
comes out. So then I
4:56
was like, well shit, now I just feel bad. So
4:58
if you guys do write in, I mean, I
5:00
know I would be willing to like write back.
5:02
I know Brooke, you would be willing to write
5:04
back, right? Yep.
5:07
If someone emailed like we could like, we'll go
5:10
through them. Um, and at
5:12
least respond to you, which is what we
5:14
have not done in Paris. Rarely.
5:17
Listen, I
5:20
feel like potentially.
5:25
Well, first and foremost, I know that we'll
5:27
probably just record one more thing, even if
5:29
we just record something and we post it.
5:31
You guys can watch the final episode on my,
5:34
on my, my YouTube channel. Cause that's where they go
5:36
anyway. Cause we
5:38
can post it. Cause I
5:40
do feel like if we don't, you
5:44
know, like this could end up being like the
5:46
worst relationship our listeners have ever been in like
5:49
five year relationship. And we're like, bye. Bye.
5:52
Yeah. Yeah. Just
5:55
fucking go some pretty good thing. Or
5:57
like we've kept this. literally
6:00
kept us through this for five years. And we just were like, all
6:03
of them were like, I
6:05
guess we'll just go fuck ourselves then. Like,
6:08
we're like, oh, it's not you. What
6:11
our loyalty gets us. You're like, uh,
6:13
your wealth cost. Yeah. So we're like,
6:15
it just depends on the response. Right?
6:18
Like, I mean, if we get, if
6:20
we get, you know, more
6:22
than a few emails and we
6:24
can address those. But we'll, yeah,
6:26
we'll figure it out. You know, 20 do either
6:28
one of you have a glass of, okay, I see
6:30
your wine. Hey,
6:33
okay. I was telling Devin, I broke out
6:35
the big bottle. So you did. Yeah,
6:37
you did. I
6:39
didn't have any champagne. So I was dying. I was,
6:42
this is all what I have. So
6:44
I brought a backup. Perfect. Okay. Got
6:46
perfect. Okay. Because so we all have
6:49
something to toast with. So it's
6:51
funny because I was just showing Devin,
6:53
um, I was rushing, right?
6:55
Rushing to get ready. I'm gonna throw
6:58
all my stuff away. Um, and
7:00
I poured a glass of wine and I knocked
7:02
it over. So there's
7:05
that. Oh, and
7:10
then, and then my glass of
7:12
wine is sitting, it's still sitting on this.
7:15
Uh, what did we call this? What is
7:17
this? Your runner? Yeah. Runner. So my glass
7:19
is sitting on the runner. And so I
7:21
run and I grabbed this to like throw,
7:23
like, I'm like dabbing it
7:25
and I pick the runner up to
7:28
get underneath it and then spill it again. Oh, dude.
7:34
It was just like, yeah, it's, yeah. Yeah.
7:37
So I'm down to, uh, I'm
7:40
good. Okay. How, I just want you
7:42
to check something for me. What? Look
7:45
under the runner. That's
7:48
what I did. It's okay. Your table's doing. Yeah.
7:50
The table, your table is not red. Okay. The
7:53
table's fine. Okay. I wiped, I like dabbed
7:55
it and wiped it underneath and that's what
7:57
spilled the glass of wine. I
8:00
dabbed it. I dabbed it. I dabbed it.
8:02
Oh my god. Remember that was
8:05
a thing. I mean, I
8:14
don't really remember. I don't really remember because
8:16
let's be honest, I was already too old to dab
8:18
when dabbing came out. Yeah, same. All the kids were
8:20
like, they're like, I dab. They're
8:24
like, oh my god, that all
8:26
the youth is convulsing. What is
8:28
happening? Oh, these seizures.
8:32
Oh, the kids these days. Oh,
8:35
those kids. Yeah.
8:38
Anyway, my little, my little
8:40
nephew is so freaking cute.
8:42
I can't even. Which one? Drew? Drew
8:44
boy? No, he says. What? Well,
8:48
he, he's been doing this
8:50
thing now. Robin, where she'll say, you'll say,
8:53
I love you. And he goes,
8:57
okay. Not reciprocal at all. No. And you're
8:59
like, I love you. He goes, okay. You're
9:03
like, say it back. He looks at you and just
9:06
goes, this squint at you.
9:08
But then he started doing this and it
9:11
just, my gosh, fills
9:13
me with so much happiness. He'll
9:16
out of out of nowhere. He'll go run
9:19
up to me. He did the other day for the first time. And now he
9:21
does all the time. He'll run up and go, but you know how
9:23
much I love you. And I'm like, I love
9:27
you too. I
9:30
know. Dude. Oh my
9:33
gosh. And he just, my parents, everyone, everyone,
9:35
they're like, he should, he just got you
9:37
whooped. And I'm like, yeah, he does. Yeah. I'm like,
9:40
I love that he loves me so much. And
9:43
I just, it's like, I just need that. And
9:45
for him, like where you want to go. And
9:48
it's, it's, it's, it's gone extreme
9:50
enough that we
9:54
were, I was over at Robin's house, my sister and
9:57
the kids were
10:00
in the kitchen we stopped and picked up dinner and
10:02
I was in a room she showed me something and they
10:05
got she got little sugar gliders for the boys they got
10:07
two sugar gliders and so we were in there with them
10:09
and I thought later I got
10:11
candy no it's an animal
10:13
it's a marsupial oh oh I saw that on
10:15
your story yeah okay I didn't know what that
10:17
was my sister was asking me she goes what
10:19
was that thing yeah did it
10:22
look like between like a monkey
10:24
and a squirrel I've
10:26
decided big bugga it's like it
10:30
looks so it's in the kangaroo
10:32
family no I they look like a cross
10:37
like a like a my
10:39
dad would we were calling frats
10:42
fruit rat a fruit bat and a rat
10:44
oh yeah yeah cuz that face like the
10:47
big eyes in their ears reminds me like
10:49
a fruit bat minus they're like weird nose
10:51
but they're fluffy mm-hmm yeah they're
10:53
pretty cute and they fly like they can
10:55
jump kind of like flying squirrels and
10:58
those and you can have those as a pet oh
11:00
yeah so apparently they're friendly they
11:03
bond with you and like they're
11:05
they're pouch animal so you
11:08
like carry them around and they're nocturnal
11:11
so they
11:13
sleep during the day especially if you don't play with
11:15
them you're supposed to like inner as
11:18
you get them more bonded with you interact with
11:20
them make make them move earlier so then they'll
11:22
maybe sleep at night like part of the night
11:24
yeah I was gonna say that might be a
11:26
nightmare there are pages in Robin
11:28
Jer's room oh my god she was laughing
11:36
she goes dude they went nuts in there all
11:39
in and jumping but they they yeah
11:45
they'll jump or the
11:47
lady who was showcasing them
11:49
and that's where Robin got him at the Dickens
11:51
Festival Christmas Festival says like they'll they
11:53
want to be close to you like
11:55
they're not they don't want to run away
11:58
from you yeah my mom saw this video
12:00
and it was perfect for a codependent. Oh
12:02
yeah. Funny thing, Drew's, his name is Robbie
12:15
Dino. Okay.
12:19
And we, me and my dad were like, we're like,
12:21
it's Robbie Dino. Like we correct Robin Robbins, like Dino.
12:24
And I'm like, we, my dad are like, Robbie Dino,
12:26
like get it right. Robbie Dino, Robbie
12:28
Dino. And then Jack's is
12:30
Sparky. He had like five names. They couldn't land
12:33
on one. But this video, my mom's, you
12:35
know, cause you talk about things in your phone all of
12:37
a sudden start showing you all these cool videos or ads.
12:40
It's this guy at the park and he's got his
12:42
sugar glider in his hand and he
12:44
fully just throws it in
12:46
the air, like in the air at
12:48
a park and the camera and
12:50
he puts his hand down and he lands
12:53
right back in his hand. No way. I was like,
12:55
dude, how fun would it be? We'll do challenges. We
12:58
can see if they've got two of them when
13:00
they're more bonded. It's like, we could see how far they'll
13:02
jump. Oh my God. Jump
13:05
to me. No sugar, no
13:07
sugar gliders have been injured in this
13:09
video. It's
13:12
like, uh, it's like a pet boomerang. Yep.
13:18
He'll be back. He's like, you
13:20
saw him and you're like, one second, just put your hand up.
13:22
And he's like, I feel like
13:25
it's like, uh, you know, like the evil, like
13:29
where they fly back to the Hawk, like the Hawk. I don't
13:31
know what they're called a Hawk, but they, I
13:33
don't know. They have a name like the guy or
13:35
the person that like handles them and wears the glove. And
13:37
yeah, I don't remember what it's called. I
13:39
wonder how people get into that. I feel like kids that are
13:41
into like, I don't know, Lord of the rings
13:44
or something like birds. You're like fantasy.
13:48
Oh yeah. Yeah. Like I need to
13:50
get it all. But also, but also I feel like
13:53
a lot of kids, a good assumption is that if
13:55
they're into like real fantasy and like, then they get
13:57
into like dungeon and dungeons and dragons, they don't have.
14:00
the balls to handle a
14:02
hawk. No, like, you know,
14:04
scared. They're scared kids. Yeah. Yeah.
14:07
They're scared kids.
14:11
I mean, I would be scared too, but some kids
14:13
are not sued freak like
14:15
Maisie. I was like, Oh no, that's a
14:17
bad kid. Oh, sorry. That's scared. That's
14:19
a scared kid. Have you're
14:21
a scared kid? Will
14:25
you hold this fountain? No.
14:27
Oh, you're a scared
14:29
kid. You know what? Instead of calling people like if
14:32
I want to be like, you're a pussy. Now I'm
14:34
just gonna be like, you're such a
14:36
scared kid or scared. Why
14:39
are you scared? Are you
14:41
scared? Are you scared?
14:43
Are you scared kid? Just
14:48
out there bullying children, scared kid,
14:51
like the most like mild,
14:55
you know, comments,
14:57
scared kid. What are you a
14:59
scared kid? Think you got, you
15:01
really got scared kid
15:03
over here. It's
15:08
Gina. It
15:11
is me. Dude. Daniel
15:13
scares me so much now that I
15:15
see all the video. No, I've been
15:17
getting scared at work for no reason.
15:20
Like I'll just be sitting at my desk. Oh,
15:22
you're just you're, you're jumping now. Comfy. Yeah. And
15:24
so like there's this one lady that always comes
15:27
over from our garden center, like drop off,
15:29
you know, cash or whatever. She
15:32
like will open the door and I'll go,
15:38
oh, I'm not sneaking up on you. Why do you do
15:40
that? Every time I come in, I go, I know.
15:43
Yeah. I just have a friend that scares
15:45
me all the time. Very jumpy. Dude. Oh,
15:47
man. All right. So
16:01
last episode,
16:03
this is it. But you
16:06
know, go ahead. Go ahead. Well,
16:08
I was going to say, I've been involved
16:10
behind the scenes since you started. And
16:14
you know, you used to listen to all the
16:16
episodes and had to do all the posts
16:18
and everything for them. I had to do it. Oh,
16:21
I had to do it. You
16:25
guys, I've been around for a while and I had to do
16:27
so many things for you. We're
16:30
like, seven. All
16:35
right, sorry, Deb. Yes, go ahead. I
16:38
got two. Yes, that's
16:40
much better. Much better. Thank you.
16:44
What are some of your favorite episodes? You
16:49
know, we were texting earlier and you had said that. I
16:52
don't know, B, do you have one? Because I feel like your answer
16:54
is going to be the same as mine. Because
16:59
through this whole journey, we've
17:01
never known what we're going to talk about. And
17:03
we don't ever listen to them. No,
17:05
the only time we've known we're going to talk about is when
17:07
we've had guests on. And it's like, we know they
17:10
are specialists in or whatever they are
17:12
doing. I think one episode
17:15
that was a pretty good one was your
17:17
pelvic floor. The pelvic
17:20
floor one. What was the name of that device?
17:22
I don't remember the name of the device, but let
17:24
me find it. Hold up. That
17:27
one was pretty fun just
17:29
because it's super interesting. And
17:31
especially, that is
17:33
a problem that's way more common than people probably
17:35
realize, especially if they don't deal with it themselves.
17:38
I don't deal with P and Y
17:40
exercise, but I have
17:42
helped a lot of ladies
17:44
and women do deal with it,
17:46
and not just after babies. That's
17:48
what's crazy. Well, that's not something
17:50
in that. Yeah, it's
17:53
like people who have never had children are dealing
17:55
with it. It's more
17:57
like an athletic thing. Yep. And it's like they
17:59
were used. using it for when you're overactive.
18:01
Like if your pelvic floor is overactive, can
18:04
cause you extreme discomfort. Like, yeah,
18:07
you know, and I have friends that have dealt with that. And
18:09
it's just
18:12
like, it was like an off the wall
18:14
topic or even not topic subject and like
18:16
subject matter and science and data
18:19
that's being done and that she's done that
18:21
again, if
18:24
you don't personally deal with it or
18:26
even for my mindset, right? Like being
18:28
in sport and knowing ladies that were
18:31
like under the age of 24 and
18:34
peed every time they did a squat
18:36
clean, right? You know, and that's
18:39
where the conversation we had is like, one,
18:42
you probably have a lot of young women. Well, for sure at
18:44
that age, that should not
18:46
be a problem. Like you should not
18:48
be peeing uncontrollably.
18:51
And you just don't realize like your
18:53
pelvic floor, just like when you talk about feet, like
18:55
all the muscles that are in your feet and
18:58
the discussion of like when you have knee pain or
19:00
back pain, a lot of the time, if you just
19:02
addressed your feet, like your arches or
19:04
how tight they are, how you walk, what kind
19:06
of shoes you're wearing, you could solve a lot
19:09
of problems up from there. And
19:12
from the just don't know we're here. Not
19:15
from the bottom. You
19:17
just wouldn't, you forget.
19:20
It's like, we forget how much work
19:22
our hands do, how much work our feet do, you know?
19:25
And then all of a sudden when you're really tied up,
19:27
like I remember one year
19:29
training for regionals and I, my
19:32
forearms, like my palms and all through
19:34
my forearms were in
19:37
just knots. Like, and
19:39
I just ached and hurt. And there wasn't anything
19:41
I could do for myself. I had
19:44
like, I got like a massage and she worked on
19:46
my forearms and it definitely made me cry. And
19:49
I remember just hearing like, it was as if I had cables,
19:51
like just all the tight tight
19:54
tightness in there, but I never, in my mind,
19:56
it was like, well, what did I do? You
19:59
know? Yeah. get that every time
20:01
we're gripping something like all these
20:03
the muscles that you're not we use
20:05
constantly and we forget that we're using them all the time
20:08
like you're in your feet. So
20:10
we also forget about we also
20:12
forget about our pelvic floor muscles like oh
20:14
they just know what they're supposed to do.
20:16
Well sometimes they don't they don't right
20:19
so thank goodness for people oh you did
20:21
what was it yeah it's
20:23
episode 117 and it's Mary
20:26
Ellen Ryder and it's the Yarlap.
20:28
Yarlap I remember because it was
20:31
like remember had
20:33
something to do with sailing yep because her
20:35
and her dad sailed oh yeah
20:37
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Mind. I
24:05
mean, I don't, I don't have a favorite
24:07
episode. I think my favorite episodes were always
24:09
the one where it was just us
24:12
talking and then something like you would say
24:14
something that would surprise the shit out of
24:16
me and I would just start dying laughing
24:18
or, or the other way around. And it
24:20
was just like, there were, there were some like,
24:22
I mean, let's be honest, there were some that we would
24:24
do that we were like, Oh, that was bad. Yeah.
24:26
We're like, yeah, that was bad.
24:29
Every time we would have one of
24:31
those, we always started the
24:33
next episode up with like, yo,
24:36
we understand if you're
24:38
like, yeah, I
24:41
don't know why. Yeah. I mean, there were times when
24:43
I was like, Oh my God, why would anybody listen
24:45
to this bullshit? Well, you read some
24:47
of the comments and it's like, some
24:49
of like the mean, I love the mean ones.
24:52
I love
24:54
the mean ones. But there were many
24:56
that were just like, I was
24:58
dying laughing in my car listening.
25:00
Oh yeah. I probably looked
25:03
like an absolute fool, but thank you
25:05
for the good laugh. Yeah, that's my
25:07
favorite. I remember getting messages from people,
25:09
men and women, men who would
25:13
listen to it in their headphones, like at the gym.
25:16
And I don't, I definitely can't remember like what the
25:18
comment was or what the episode was, but this person
25:20
was like, they were laughing so
25:23
hard and they're at the
25:25
gym and what we're talking about and what they're like
25:27
laughing, they had to like, they would pause it and
25:29
like look around, like make sure no one was like,
25:36
I guess I'm due to the gym, like,
25:38
wasn't it like, well,
25:40
and those are always like the surprising comments, right?
25:43
Like, because you're like, Oh, I mean, I
25:45
could see how women would understand what we're
25:47
talking about. We're women. Yep. We're just being,
25:49
you know, we're just talking about like real
25:51
shit. But then to like have men
25:53
laugh about it, you were kind of like, Oh, okay. Okay.
25:56
Okay. Well, I need even more than that. I may
25:58
be on here. Like we've
26:00
been doing this for five years. I know that's
26:04
what's crazy is like it doesn't it definitely doesn't like
26:06
it's been five years and You'd
26:09
think that if we've been doing it for five years
26:11
at some point we would have been like people like
26:13
it But yet we're still like I mean, do they
26:15
like it like are we entertained? It's
26:21
because our self-esteem is so low I
26:23
know, you know, we're always fighting to
26:25
pretend, you know But
26:30
we made it to like where we didn't
26:32
even realize that we had made it. Yep
26:36
But I will tell all you guys that are listening, you
26:38
know, what has definitely kept us doing this is Not
26:43
only you guys listening because they
26:45
kept we kept eating to record
26:47
more and they never told us like you guys suck We
26:49
gotta kick you out of the team It
26:52
was the messages To our
26:54
email but also like to my my
26:56
DMS and and conversations with
26:58
people in person like You
27:03
truly and this is is a comment
27:05
for everyone listening because this goes this
27:08
pertains to you in your life You
27:10
can truly do not know What
27:14
positive effects you are having on people
27:16
and it's not like this direct Conversation
27:18
where we're problem-solving for you, right? It's not
27:20
this direct conversation where we're talking about whatever
27:22
your problems are and I'm going to help
27:24
you through them. It's us just
27:27
I I personally
27:29
think being vulnerable and
27:31
being honest and having hard
27:33
conversation whether it's about
27:35
our own personal stuff and being willing
27:37
to discuss some things and also having
27:39
listeners be able to I guess
27:43
be there through the process of like working
27:45
through something and More
27:48
than anything. I think that are
27:51
easy to listen to Hilarious
27:55
we're hilarious Larry
27:58
we're alert. We're hello It
28:03
just can it can it
28:06
can offer so much help just
28:08
through the healing of I guess
28:14
you know like oh my gosh it's not
28:16
just me. It's
28:20
not just me. Yes. That's why
28:22
I was going to say dad is like really feeling like I'm the only
28:24
person that deals with this or you know and I
28:26
think I think a lot of that is you
28:29
know it's funny because Brooke you remember this it's like
28:31
at the beginning when we sat
28:33
around the big table and I
28:36
was shitting my pants and
28:38
you had hive I'd hive I was like
28:41
it's gonna be fine.
28:44
I had no idea what we were doing
28:47
and you know having to do
28:49
it like in a studio and like you had
28:51
had experience with that I was just like what
28:53
the fuck am I doing here you know but
28:55
it was it was so interesting
28:57
how they really wanted remember how they really wanted us
28:59
to come up with a format. Oh
29:01
yeah we had to have a format meeting
29:03
and I was like yeah format is no
29:05
format is no format and they were like
29:08
you have to have like what's your concept
29:10
and you know your format. What are your
29:12
like what are the topics like what's it
29:14
about and we're like I know
29:16
well you were talking about it's like this I was like
29:19
it was like shrugging my shoulders like
29:21
here's like please come really unprepared. Yeah
29:23
I was literally sitting there going like
29:25
I don't even know why I'm here
29:27
like whatever she says I don't know.
29:30
Okay but I am happy
29:32
that we decided well you know
29:35
you decided that we weren't
29:37
going to just kind of
29:41
go with what they were
29:43
suggesting you know because I
29:46
think that that's that has been like the
29:48
biggest input that we've had is that oh
29:50
it's just like I'm sitting with my girlfriends
29:52
or it's just like you know you guys are having
29:54
the same conversations that I'm having with my girlfriends on
29:57
the you know or it's like I'm on the couch
29:59
with you. or yeah
30:02
and that's really been gratifying
30:06
I think for us
30:09
to realize like oh you know
30:11
going with what you know we
30:13
wanted to do actually
30:15
benefited us and it did
30:18
reach so much so many more people than
30:20
trying to have this like format remember when we would like
30:23
try to research things on the way to yes
30:27
well that was when when we first started
30:30
you know we were recording in studio
30:32
in LA and so we would go down we'd be there
30:34
for like a week and we would record a bunch
30:37
of stuff like a month yeah because then we'd go
30:39
back and be out of town and
30:42
it was
30:45
just so you
30:49
know us doing that because
30:53
we really tried we did
30:55
we did we really tried and we
30:58
also didn't at the same time and
31:00
that we got to
31:02
where we are today and well
31:05
I think that we both are like
31:07
total procrastinators to where it would
31:09
be like to like we wait till the very
31:11
last like you know minute and I'd be like
31:13
oh shit like we were going to talk about
31:15
eyelashes today we should look and see some information
31:17
we should like hurry get back
31:19
first on anything what are you
31:21
doing what are some fun facts about
31:23
eyelashes you know how many mites live oh
31:25
my god that still fucks me up I haven't
31:27
had eyelashes since dude I don't have any
31:30
either yeah so yeah
31:32
I still have mine because I didn't look it up that's
31:35
no that's why I don't have that my
31:37
mom has hers I won't go
31:40
I won't I don't have mine
31:42
because COVID
31:44
and then I think I just got so accustomed
31:46
to not having them that I didn't go I
31:48
never like went and got them got my lashes
31:50
put back on there are times
31:52
when I I miss them all it's I know okay
31:55
I do miss them all the time when I'm anytime
31:58
I'm doing video or just
32:00
because I have little
32:02
eyes and my lashes are super blonde and when
32:06
you have some lashes on it really just
32:08
kind of Open dry.
32:11
Yeah, it gives it a little pop Yeah,
32:13
I know and I think what I love the minds
32:15
about what I love the most about lashes is like
32:19
You didn't have to if you didn't if you
32:21
weren't doing like a full I'm
32:30
gonna say something that I've never said and
32:32
I've never really done but you'll get it
32:35
if you're not doing a full face of I
32:41
don't think we've ever done a full face of makeup like if
32:43
you're not wearing a bunch of makeup like for me Going
32:46
to the gym and we're at the gym. We're at the gym. We're the gym. Oh, that's what
32:48
we do You could still
32:51
feel a little put together. Yeah, you
32:53
know You know, you're a way
32:55
now feeling like somewhat decent Yeah, especially if you had like
32:57
a you slept you didn't move a lot and you woke
32:59
up You're like, oh my hair still looks great and you're
33:01
like look at my eyelashes I'm
33:05
good I've
33:09
just got the one you know, the lashes that God
33:12
bless me with and Yeah,
33:15
but like you're doing right now the beauty of not
33:17
having all man you can rub on man That's what
33:20
I think that's why I didn't end up going back
33:22
when we when we had to finally get them taken
33:24
off and they're falling off during COVID and everything like
33:26
that those first showers
33:28
where you're just like It's
33:32
like you're rubbing them and as you rub
33:35
them they get itchier and then you rub
33:37
them harder It's like yeah, it's like an
33:39
eye orgasm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. Okay.
33:41
Okay. Hey on that note Well off in
33:44
Thailand and I got oh, yeah, not to
33:46
rub again and I was
33:48
like man. I don't know if I can go back Well,
33:55
I so so I think since
33:57
we had started doing the episodes
34:00
I had already become a cut site allergic
34:02
to my lashes. So I would just oh
34:04
yeah, flashes all the time and man, I
34:07
would baby those things like I can even
34:09
roll the car door down or car window.
34:11
Yeah, be
34:14
like a dandelion and you like
34:17
blow a dandelion. Oh my God,
34:21
I can't go anywhere. Now you got
34:23
feet. You can't go anywhere. I know.
34:29
What's so funny as I was, I told my dad,
34:31
we're like dad, me and Jane on
34:33
the podcast and Devin, we talked about like all
34:36
these weird things that are having happening to us
34:39
that are like old
34:41
signs. We're getting a little bit uglier. And
34:45
I'm like, we talked about Gina. She
34:47
can't work. Yeah,
34:52
that's a fun good toe. He was dying. I
34:54
was like, yeah, toes are curling.
34:56
He goes, I told her curling. He
34:59
said soon you won't you won't care anymore. And
35:01
you'll just wear you'll wear whatever you want. I
35:03
know I'm going to be that lady at Target
35:05
wearing the Burke's just the
35:07
old nasty Burke's with like the cracked heels
35:09
and the nasty toes. You
35:12
may actually not have
35:14
the cracked heels because I feel like, you
35:17
know, you
35:19
got to spend out there. So you got to
35:21
spend some time like either walking barefoot or in
35:23
at the beach in the sand, except to dry
35:26
those suckers out. I mean, that's true. That
35:28
is true. I am. I am kind of
35:30
a and I do like I tell you,
35:32
let me talk off really quick. I
35:35
think you have the
35:37
cheese grater for your heels. Gina. I have the
35:39
it's like the petty something. I don't know what
35:41
it is. It looks like you
35:44
have a petty egg. I have
35:46
one of those too. I've had it for years.
35:48
We actually talked about it on this one time
35:50
because remember, I can't remember what we talked what
35:53
we why we talked about it. Oh, we did
35:55
it. It was a sheep. Was
35:59
it a would you? I think it was a
36:01
wood you rather. I
36:05
think it was a wood you rather. It
36:07
was. Oh my gosh. And it's
36:09
so gross, man. Like I will just be
36:11
like going to town on that thing. And
36:13
it just looks like it looks like gray
36:16
dust. Yeah. Yeah. It's
36:18
nasty. I
36:20
mean, it is. You know, I think
36:22
we also talked about if
36:25
you're listening, you know what the pediag is. And
36:28
you've got like all the different like handled ones you
36:30
can file your feet. Yeah. They're always
36:32
in like the pharmacy section, the grocery store. But
36:34
the one that's like a straight
36:36
razor, you know, oh yeah.
36:39
And you, you like, you
36:41
like, it's like almost like the, they
36:44
have those cheese. They have the big ones
36:46
for cheese. Dude, I would, I would, you
36:48
gotta be careful with those. Yeah. You
36:51
got, I got you a recipe. Not
36:53
that often though. Oh really? It's
36:56
like my shoe size is smaller.
37:01
I think I,
37:04
I wait, I have to, to
37:06
an eight. You have to be
37:08
so careful with those. Cause like, if you
37:10
get like the slightest wrong angle, it's
37:13
going straight in and
37:15
it's taking a huge chunk out. Yeah.
37:17
And that I won't get one of those. Yeah.
37:20
No. That's why I like my little penny egg. I
37:52
look at my big toenail. Okay
37:56
guys, you gotta go to
37:58
YouTube. If any,
38:00
did you find the founder of know you're not
38:02
Miller? See it? Ill
38:05
take a picture with your phone. I
38:07
put my and can. I
38:10
put my. I
38:12
put my single medicine on bespoke
38:14
said. Dude.
38:16
It's like. Oh
38:19
so ugly. My toenails started to
38:21
curl really bad right before it
38:23
popped off the first time. Well.
38:26
Yeah, I mean that. yeah, I. Know.
38:28
Is it's as if it like it. Oh
38:31
My. God. Axon They're saying oh My God.
38:33
the so embarrassing. I
38:35
don't noodle salad and rove. I'm semi
38:38
auto which. And rather like
38:40
cheetahs. Oh now. So.
38:43
What's crazy? It looks so
38:45
yellow. But. What's crazy
38:47
is that. It is like
38:50
not even attached to my toe like. Where.
38:52
The black like aside. To. Like
38:55
all the way down. And
38:57
so like where you see the. Color change. You
39:01
see it? Yeah, I. Ask.
39:05
Lose it. And
39:08
I've yeah, it's nasty dude. I
39:10
mean do you want which do we want to share pictures of
39:13
those because if we if you for a little insecure about your
39:15
as I can show you mine. I feel
39:17
like there's anything wrong so too much we
39:19
can charge for that but not on it's
39:21
and are. We
39:23
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39:26
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39:28
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39:30
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39:33
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43:33
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43:35
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as sort little fat told like
44:36
relief little own to the weirdest.
44:40
And. They. Look like little
44:42
know. they're like little. They.
44:46
Are lower like a smoky Kutner little
44:48
flustered? I don't know, They just don't
44:50
match the. Rest. Of me and all.
44:53
That. And I don't however long slender
44:55
fingers, I just about these big palms
44:58
and like you know, these big thick.
45:01
Yeah. Be you might fit in a good
45:03
like center fingers like I'd as I have
45:05
been I got fat knuckles match. I
45:07
mean I and I have really fat fingers
45:09
and people don't even realize that cause my
45:12
hands are so big. So. They
45:14
think they don't realize that until like I try
45:16
to a trial on like one of the rain
45:18
like a normal sized person you're like and it
45:20
barely sip my think a because like. Yeah.
45:23
They're like narrow on my fingers, are
45:25
narrow on the ai your and you
45:27
know there's are all years. They're like
45:29
little they like, they get sicker. yeah
45:32
yeah. throwing the only course. they're. Like
45:34
gallon of gas or delaware it
45:36
video or we talked about before.
45:39
The name but my old or bizarre
45:41
because they. Sir. You.
45:44
Know like most people second told longer than
45:46
their first solar at least longer. My second
45:48
till is my. Sword his toe. Oh
45:51
yeah, I do know member you have that. Yeah, An.
45:53
ikea and i only how i swear
45:55
to god i only have one knuckle
45:57
in that have i have one tell
46:01
I have one toe that's
46:03
like my dad's feet. It's
46:06
not promising. And
46:09
it's I have one toe. Gosh, I'm putting this
46:11
out there in the open. Yeah, do it. You
46:13
know what? Who cares? You guys
46:15
already see me. How gross I am. I have one toe
46:18
that will undoubtedly be
46:20
a hammer toe. Which
46:22
one is it? My second one. Here's my toe. I would
46:24
show you guys my feet right now, but I just
46:26
took my socks off and I've worked
46:29
pretty hard today. And I've
46:31
got some white in my toe now. I just
46:33
showed my fucking funky toe. I
46:35
mean, do you want me to take
46:38
a picture for you? Yeah. You know what
46:40
guys? I'm going to show you my second toe. It's right next to
46:42
my ugly big toe. My second toe is shorter. Okay.
46:45
This is the bottom of my foot. I
46:49
have a really high instep. All right guys. This
46:53
is our biggest rating on a video ever. And they're like, it
46:55
was our final video. And
46:58
they finally showed us their feet. I
47:03
have like a high end set. My
47:05
foot is, you guys, my foot
47:08
is skinnier in the middle. Yeah,
47:11
you do have a skinny fit in the middle. But it's wider
47:13
in the front. And that's, I mean, that's kind of the shape
47:15
of my mom's feet. But here's the, here's the
47:17
real, here's the clincher.
47:19
This is why I'm single. Okay.
47:22
No. I
47:24
have this one, I don't know if you can
47:26
see it. This toe, so my second
47:29
toe is, this one's as long as my
47:31
big toe. But it's
47:33
got this like, gosh, I can't even do it. I
47:35
got to show it to you though. Okay.
47:39
This is so stupid. I
47:42
know, we're dumb. But
47:46
this one toe, it kind of wants
47:48
to curl that second knuckle on it.
47:50
It wants to sit up high, which then
47:53
eventually could turn into one of these. Yeah.
47:56
You know what I mean? Yeah, but we're not
47:58
going to do it. gonna let that
48:00
happen. From
48:04
the bottom it looks like I just have four
48:06
toes. It's
48:08
like this is like oh where's
48:11
the baby? No it's shorter it's shorter than
48:13
all of them. There
48:28
he is! There
48:32
he is! Oh
48:35
my god. So yes I danced
48:37
my whole life. I danced into college all
48:39
grown up into college. Point
48:41
shoes in my feet. That's my
48:43
whole life. I just imagine you
48:45
just always did. I
48:48
feel like I just got a little shocked in my ears.
48:50
Weird. When
48:52
I stopped doing point my
48:55
feet definitely started to fill it just a lot better all
48:59
the time. My left foot is
49:03
more normal. My left foot is
49:06
more like normal. My right
49:08
foot the reason it's not as normal is because I just have
49:10
that one toe. That
49:13
one outlier. And you
49:15
know I
49:20
like to make people feel comfortable. I don't
49:24
want my dad to feel bad about his toes. You know
49:26
on his feet. Impressive.
49:31
Well your dad gives a flying
49:33
shit. No he don't. No he
49:35
don't. Every time. Oh he don't.
49:37
No he don't. Hims does. Hims
49:39
does. Hims
49:41
does something. But
49:48
my sister me and Lacey we've
49:51
like we're convinced she is she has my
49:53
dad's wrists. And
49:57
I'm like I'm like
49:59
me too. Like we got Go to the hand
50:01
doctor. My grandpa my grandma has this and
50:03
my dad has to plus like arthritis. Makes.
50:05
It worse or it's a bus like
50:07
on my dad's It had this that
50:10
there's some joint. The.
50:12
Only closer to the risk. Is
50:14
arthritis is basically disjoint has been
50:16
like it's gone so his some.
50:19
Wants to sit down in his hand here. And.
50:23
He and my Dad and. I
50:26
mean, he's a fucking name, right?
50:28
We all know this. This. And.
50:32
I. Were second on venus dad cause I know he. Would have
50:34
been the for the moon fluid. I know. And
50:37
them instead I got my dad
50:39
popular see. You
50:42
got your dad's Gobbler and I had probably
50:44
because this results in his hair was at
50:46
least you can like you can like. Spot
50:48
on. Oh hi there I can't find this. Is.
50:51
My mom and dad had
50:54
a lot from Mumbai like
50:56
that. such a sad my
50:59
blood pressure and. Assists
51:02
epitomized. My grandma has it on and they
51:04
have her hands and so she's got like
51:06
a brace that show where that pops that
51:09
some out like. The joint know. But
51:12
my dad's got. He's had surgery. one
51:14
hand has been fused, his wrists, And
51:17
he's gonna be having the other one done. And.
51:20
He is. Little
51:23
stressed. About it because the we now have
51:25
a. Run. Have a big day in this house!
51:29
Oh own. So
51:31
he didn't know how I am with the day. I
51:35
know where. I
51:40
mean to be honest, january we have
51:42
had so many good moments in earlier.
51:44
The had together or pretty good though is. That
51:46
that is one of the. Tude
51:51
Greatest movie ever created Mother ever.
51:55
I am oh shit outside. Of
51:58
as I was gonna I could we've but. Kind
52:00
of our little. Yeah I once
52:02
I got Lana. Or violence A villa.
52:05
And. We.
52:07
Got inside. With
52:10
the get inside. I mean as in
52:12
a thing, As like, if anything. And genome. Unsettling.
52:15
But and shit and the per day by day.
52:19
On earth I would say. Them.
52:23
In. Any I know he told the
52:25
story to the number one I told and you know like
52:27
did not love I told her but. And this
52:29
is why we tell our embarrassing stories because they're funny
52:31
with the show to laugh with the new era so
52:33
funny and at. The. Moment that this
52:35
happened, it was the funniest shit. It's
52:38
time in I'm in the room to the bathroom door shut
52:40
and I did hear. Oh
52:42
No. Oh no, I
52:45
go. Like a why and
52:47
sugar. And she was. The
52:51
one I do it also to go in there. This
52:57
made shit the but a. Oh.
53:04
My God I don't. Like
53:07
people are going to be like and of
53:09
a day like like a lot of like
53:11
American the day your life like one spoil
53:13
a. Are like oh on the wall re
53:16
I. Like this is last
53:18
act like classic Italian there's to
53:20
that there's a soon I learned
53:22
what know how your food and
53:24
way let's and one is very
53:26
shallow. Ah, And you
53:28
Wayne And that's. Why
53:31
I had a mix between a record toilet
53:33
like a drinking fountain. Yes, I'm.
53:38
In I'm drunk and I sit down and
53:41
I'm like oh the feels weird. Because
53:44
I'm literally. Or
53:49
death is like a regular toilet.
53:51
Uva I said. Seat
53:53
and with. A
53:56
regular toilet. We got everyday.
53:59
Regulars work. The would although I don't know
54:01
if they had a plan to see at a
54:03
lid on it Snorting lopez. And. I don't
54:05
why went for first. I. Mean,
54:07
I mean to let you run with
54:09
that, but I honestly, by some sort
54:11
my assumption is that that was the
54:13
closest one. and we're right, right? Bishops
54:15
listened to a city like it's yeah,
54:17
that's a toilet seat. Sat down even
54:19
though she's sitting basically on a toilet
54:21
with no seat on it. So you
54:23
know you don't look like be inside
54:25
of a toilet and it's like this
54:27
shallow. There's. No whole, the
54:30
bottom of. It
54:34
would you do. We know though,
54:36
that would the brazil know with
54:38
Brooke. And funny team that was the
54:41
first time I had ever had a hotel
54:43
room that had of the day. And
54:46
a twenty point lead. And he was
54:48
this. It was kind of. There was
54:50
a moment, whereas like. We're.
54:53
Going I do in their wish I would. Be
54:56
just me it is. What
54:59
I. Was
55:03
is that I sat as I did sit
55:05
down and I thought ah. This. Is
55:07
as I was also what I was also the
55:09
newlywed. And
55:13
I will. And it's like you're having
55:15
this like a horror of horrors happening
55:17
in your head. As it's happening. and
55:19
you're like. Oh no, you like
55:21
to stop it now. You
55:24
probably easier to do then is whether you're
55:26
finished or pitched at all. he had to
55:28
get it is a decision but I know
55:30
he's and I do and I couldn't I
55:32
turned it off in like, never said anything
55:34
and just taken care of it. But.
55:36
No I had to say it out loud big of as
55:39
what I do a like oh no and then she's like.
55:42
A who is I am I always
55:44
feel and my my into. My.
55:47
Life oh and is seen as
55:49
in distress need as in distress.
55:52
When we see hurry. I
55:56
cannot tell you I edo it's funny
55:58
because like group. Brooke, through
56:01
our friendship, I cannot tell
56:03
you, I mean, we all know, like, I am
56:05
20 years older than Brooke. And I
56:07
cannot tell you how many times Brooke
56:10
has had to basically be my mother.
56:12
It is
56:17
it is embarrassing, because like, I like,
56:19
I've raised four children, and they're very
56:21
capable. But I don't know what it
56:23
is. It's like, she was like, I,
56:26
I'm, I'm realizing,
56:29
obviously, as I've gotten older, that I am
56:31
a giant airhead. And, and
56:33
I would, I
56:36
mean, I cannot tell you how many times
56:38
Brooke would like, find something for me or,
56:40
or, you
56:42
know, help me with something. It's absolutely
56:45
insane. How it's
56:47
been. And it's been lovely,
56:49
because at least I don't know, I
56:51
don't know if it's because we became friends. And he's such a
56:53
nurturing, loving person that I was like,
56:55
fuck it. Oh,
56:58
my God. Well, we always said that, though,
57:00
you know, my God, you take care of me
57:02
and I take
57:09
care of you. I do take care of you. But in
57:11
different ways. It happens at different times. Yeah.
57:13
But man, I mean, let's be honest,
57:15
Brooke, how many times have we, we've
57:17
traveled together. I mean, I've never traveled
57:20
so much my life until like you and I became friends.
57:22
And I've traveled so much with you. And there is, I
57:25
swear to God, there's rarely a time
57:27
when there's not some kind of glitch that
57:30
has happened because of something I've forgotten or
57:32
something. I
57:34
always was like, it's okay, baby. I got it.
57:37
I got it. I got it. I got it.
57:40
You know, I did. I don't even know
57:42
how I got to this age without you.
57:44
Like, yeah, well, I'm like, I'm like, we're
57:46
gonna figure this out. And then like, my
57:48
shit falls apart. And you're like, it's okay.
57:50
Come here. My emotional turmoil mentally
57:53
in my heart, my life's
57:55
literally in it's going 100 miles
57:57
an hour. And I've got a lot of issues.
1:00:00
We'll do this XYZ blah, blah, blah. This is what you have
1:00:02
to do. Yep. We
1:00:05
found it though. That was
1:00:07
a fun little trip. Oh, that was
1:00:09
a fun trip. That was a good
1:00:11
that. I mean, if I remembered that podcast, I feel
1:00:13
like that was a fun one. Yeah.
1:00:18
We talked about Colby. Dude,
1:00:29
that was fun. That's
1:00:32
the one with Dana Lynn, right?
1:00:34
Yeah. He said, when he said,
1:00:36
he, I remember
1:00:39
when he, a fat vagina is like giving him
1:00:41
a hug. Yeah. And
1:00:46
then we were all at dinner
1:00:49
and we were with Ashley from,
1:00:51
uh, I
1:00:54
don't know her last name, but Ashley kid. Yes.
1:00:57
And so what's so funny is like this
1:00:59
whole time I thought that was the nickname. That's
1:01:01
her actual last name. I mean, that's what
1:01:03
it says on our Instagram. No, I know. But that's no,
1:01:07
like the cutest girl ever. Right?
1:01:09
Like fucking bad-ass, like snow. Wake
1:01:12
surfer. Wake surfer. Um, and
1:01:15
we're all at dinner and Colby's kind of
1:01:18
like all of a sudden he's like cool
1:01:20
guy. You know, he's like the cool guy.
1:01:22
Oh, that's our first dinner. Yeah. Our first
1:01:24
matter. Yeah. Yeah. And you talked about how
1:01:27
he was with this girl and he, he
1:01:31
was going to like, uh, lick
1:01:33
her vagina, but she didn't want it. Oh
1:01:36
yeah. And then all of us were like, what
1:01:42
he was. The
1:01:46
conversation was a bit topic. It
1:01:48
was not the topic was basically
1:01:50
this, that like not all girls
1:01:53
enjoy, enjoy having yes.
1:01:56
Yes. They're vagina. And
1:01:59
Colby says. He's like, well, yeah, you know, I was
1:02:01
just going on. I wanted to and you didn't want it. And all
1:02:03
of us were like, and all of us were like, no,
1:02:05
that because you were like, you're bad
1:02:10
at it.
1:02:13
Actually, you
1:02:16
know what, you know, let's be super
1:02:18
honest because we're on Gina
1:02:20
probably fully was like, you're bad
1:02:22
at it. And
1:02:26
I was like, and the rest of us are like, oh,
1:02:29
it's not because she doesn't want it. I
1:02:31
don't know. I
1:02:36
don't know. I mean, I guess
1:02:38
it depends on somebody's like, no,
1:02:40
with their body. I'm sure that there's somebody out there.
1:02:42
There's a lot of like, that really make
1:02:44
it different. But sure, it was an opportunity
1:02:46
to not say it. It
1:02:50
was too good an opportunity. That
1:02:55
guy, is that the
1:02:57
same dinner that you made him yell?
1:02:59
I have been divided. No, that was
1:03:01
the first dinner. No. And
1:03:03
then he got it. I know. Dude.
1:03:05
In fact, let's just tell that story. We got it. Me
1:03:08
and Gina, we're going to Austin. I'm doing,
1:03:10
I'm meeting up with my
1:03:12
friend Ashley, Ken. We're going to wake her from, we do this
1:03:14
trip and we're vlogging and we're podcasting
1:03:16
and Dana met us. Yeah. First
1:03:19
dinner, me and Gina get there. We go meet up with
1:03:21
Ashley and her friend, cute little girlfriend. And
1:03:24
we're at this like rooftop bar in Austin.
1:03:28
Yeah. In Austin. Yeah.
1:03:31
And we're having a few drinks.
1:03:34
We're not like drinking because we're just stuffed in.
1:03:36
We didn't go out. We
1:03:38
were surfing the next
1:03:40
day. We went to dinner, had some drinks, do we
1:03:42
have some drinks? Me, Colby, Gina and these two super
1:03:45
darling, like super girls. And
1:03:48
these are like hot girls. And
1:03:50
they're younger and Colby's there. And you, we
1:03:52
can, me and Gina knew it. Like Colby's
1:03:54
like cool. He was cool. He was cool.
1:03:57
And me and Gina were like. What
1:04:00
I... That's a scared kid.
1:04:03
So
1:04:07
then, Gina wants to
1:04:09
play, we're playing dares because that's what we do.
1:04:11
Yeah. How do you have a good time? Well,
1:04:14
you just play dares. Yeah. It's hilarious.
1:04:16
You put in like some stipulations and
1:04:18
rules. Our rules are like no public
1:04:20
community. Yeah. You can't get arrested. Still
1:04:22
getting arrested. Yeah. And
1:04:25
maybe like we... You
1:04:27
don't make someone do something that could like hurt
1:04:30
another person or an altercation.
1:04:32
Yeah. Or like make fun
1:04:35
of another person. Because we're not mean people. Or
1:04:37
like someone end up like punching
1:04:39
you. Right. Right. I
1:04:44
can't even smell her hair. I
1:04:49
had to believe it. I had to believe it at random. There
1:04:52
were two guys that were... Oh,
1:04:54
that was in Tahoe. Insane
1:04:57
clown off. Yeah. No, that's
1:04:59
San Francisco. San Francisco. And I
1:05:01
had to go and sit next to them and
1:05:03
eat their french fries. And they said no. No,
1:05:05
one of them did. One of them did. I
1:05:08
sat down. This is the
1:05:10
end of the night. So you can imagine. I
1:05:12
looked fantastic. Sure. And one guy
1:05:14
go, hey, would it be all right? I'm
1:05:18
really hungry if I just had like
1:05:20
plenty of french fries. And the one guy was like, no.
1:05:23
And the other guy goes, you can have some
1:05:25
of mine. Like,
1:05:28
thank you. Oh
1:05:32
my God. No, man. But
1:05:34
Colby, we start playing
1:05:36
dares. And Gina dares him to...
1:05:40
dares him to yell. Oh,
1:05:43
Jinja Boydus. But there was something before that.
1:05:45
No, the first thing you told him to
1:05:48
yell and he wouldn't do it. Oh, you're
1:05:50
right. You're right. I was too embarrassed. I
1:05:52
have a small penis. I have a small
1:05:54
penis. This is something like that. And Colby
1:05:57
would not do it. And so
1:05:59
then I dared Jinja. I was like, okay, come on Colby.
1:06:01
I'm like, Gina, I dare you. You
1:06:03
have to go dance on that waiter. Yeah.
1:06:07
and we're on the, let's
1:06:09
say on the patio of the outside. Yeah.
1:06:14
This waiter is down at this other table.
1:06:16
And she was like, all right. She goes
1:06:18
over and she's behind. She's behind us. I
1:06:20
was like, gee. And
1:06:24
he's like, he's laughing and she works her way back over and
1:06:26
sits down. She's like, Colby, come
1:06:28
on, just yell. I'm just gonna be like,
1:06:31
I am ginger. Why didn't
1:06:37
he wouldn't, did he do it? You wouldn't do it. He
1:06:39
wouldn't do it. The funniest shit though
1:06:42
was what would you say?
1:06:44
It was like, I want to say weeks
1:06:46
later, weeks, like
1:06:49
a couple months later and Colby was at the
1:06:53
Dennis and I'm on the phone with
1:06:55
him and he goes, he like finished the dance. He goes, fucking
1:06:58
Gina. I was
1:07:00
like, the
1:07:04
dentist told me that I had ginger. Dude,
1:07:15
I'm blaming me for giving him the gingeritis. I
1:07:17
was like, hey man, if you just found the
1:07:19
dare, you would have stepped in his purse. That's
1:07:21
what happened. You
1:07:23
could have been cleared. That
1:07:26
was my problem. Dude, when he told me
1:07:28
that I left so hard, I'm like, dude,
1:07:30
Gina's gonna die. Oh
1:07:37
my God. Oh man. So
1:07:40
many good times. Great
1:07:43
time. In fact, we should
1:07:46
plan another trip somewhere. I don't know where we're
1:07:48
gonna go or when, but let's just say
1:07:50
in the summer. No,
1:07:52
seven, I already decided. We're
1:07:55
figuring something out with you. Yeah.
1:07:58
It's been, I figured it out. It's been, okay. if
1:08:00
our listeners are still listening out
1:08:02
there, they're like, yeah.
1:08:07
It's been it honestly, it's been like
1:08:09
really hard since Brooke moved
1:08:12
away. And, and I think
1:08:14
that's been like another thing of like, why we're
1:08:17
not we can't do this
1:08:19
anymore. Because we don't have we
1:08:21
used to share these because
1:08:23
yeah, we don't have as many
1:08:25
shared experiences. And although we still like
1:08:28
are checking in but me Brooke
1:08:31
and I are not the people that are like daily
1:08:33
like, Hi, how are you? Oh, did it
1:08:36
up? I'm awful at it. I've
1:08:38
like no and I am too. That's
1:08:40
how I would read it out friends because
1:08:42
like they hated me so much. No, totally.
1:08:44
But what I think what's beautiful about our
1:08:47
relationship is that it doesn't
1:08:50
matter how much time goes by. We
1:08:52
both know we love each other. We know that we don't
1:08:54
want to do like the the you know,
1:08:57
nonsense talk. You know,
1:08:59
hi, how are you or any of
1:09:01
that? You're like, Oh, twist the
1:09:04
knife. How are you? How are
1:09:07
you? That's so open. There's
1:09:09
so many things I can say.
1:09:11
I'm gonna be honest. How long
1:09:13
will this take? Is my friend gonna be
1:09:15
upset if like, I don't respond right away?
1:09:18
Like what if they ask Nick a really person like a real serious
1:09:20
question? Like what if I'm honest with them? Like I'm
1:09:22
terrible. No, no. And then
1:09:24
I you know, but there's these like things that you work.
1:09:27
Well, not everybody worries about and the
1:09:29
only reason I think about them is because I've
1:09:31
had so many experiences have
1:09:34
high expectation. Right. And
1:09:36
I'm like, dude, I'm trying to meet it. I
1:09:39
know. I know. I responded to
1:09:41
you in my head. Yeah,
1:09:43
you did. You
1:09:45
respond in your head. But I
1:09:47
will say this. I think
1:09:51
doing this podcast is really some
1:09:54
of the people that have written in
1:09:56
and, you know, said like, I
1:09:59
Don't have friends like that. I mean it's a, if
1:10:01
anything, it's like. Really reminded me how
1:10:03
special. Having. This
1:10:06
relationship and. And. How
1:10:08
grateful I am for that! And.
1:10:11
It's crazy like I think about it, I
1:10:13
go, I mean it. and without having no
1:10:16
new. And.
1:10:18
This is it. It's not the top experience
1:10:20
right? Like the having. A podcast or
1:10:22
any of the other sub. ah, But.
1:10:25
I'm at. I never would have ever had
1:10:27
this experience and mean it's kind of. It's
1:10:29
kind of crazy rates like I mean I
1:10:32
edu know me like I don't ever tell
1:10:34
people like oh for the podcast but like
1:10:36
Daniel will tell people sometimes like oh yes
1:10:38
you the podcast with her from. Broke
1:10:40
And public? Oh No Shit. You.
1:10:43
Know and it's like. I. Would
1:10:45
have never had it. So many
1:10:47
experiences and the podcast obviously like
1:10:49
very important and we love our
1:10:51
listeners and all that. But on
1:10:53
top of that there's so many
1:10:55
other. Experiences like as were like talking
1:10:58
and and and laughing about all this
1:11:00
stuff like I am so grateful to
1:11:02
have a friend like you. And.
1:11:04
And. Grateful.
1:11:07
To have you know. Met seven and
1:11:09
has. That and and and all
1:11:11
that we're not. We're so grateful for
1:11:13
dem her. we're so grateful for for
1:11:15
democrats. But I guess I guess what
1:11:17
I'm trying to say that there are
1:11:19
people out there that fits feel like
1:11:21
they haven't. You. Know had those
1:11:24
kinds of friendships and I and it
1:11:26
just makes me even more grateful. To.
1:11:28
Have a friendship with somebody who have.
1:11:31
You. Don't I mean who? I
1:11:34
can fucking have these experiences
1:11:36
with and laugh with and.
1:11:38
Ah, and we can do. Whatever.
1:11:41
Money and do whether it's in the matter.
1:11:44
Is learning their or were just
1:11:46
hanging around like one? The. Counting.
1:11:48
On the couch watching a movie and that's
1:11:50
the thing is like I think that. I
1:11:53
just want our listeners the understand like
1:11:55
this is our let our relationship. On.
1:11:58
Here, but it's also. how
1:12:00
we are when we're by ourselves. And
1:12:03
that is a beautiful thing. A
1:12:05
very real representation of, you know,
1:12:09
every, your, you and
1:12:11
Brooke's relationship, but then
1:12:14
also fortunately I got brought
1:12:16
into the mix and I am so
1:12:18
grateful for that. Dude, well,
1:12:21
Devin, we couldn't do that. We
1:12:23
couldn't live without you. No, you're right.
1:12:26
You're right. You're right.
1:12:29
You're right. Remember that time we knocked
1:12:31
your tooth out? Fuck.
1:12:36
Don't bring that up again. I feel so bad. I
1:12:39
know, but it's fixed now. No, I know. Yeah.
1:12:42
Thousands of dollars later. Oh
1:12:45
my God. But no,
1:12:47
it's, it just, anyway,
1:12:50
like going through this journey has,
1:12:52
and seeing people's comments and stuff has
1:12:54
made me even more grateful to have
1:12:56
the relationships with you girls. That,
1:13:01
you know, it's obviously like really special and
1:13:04
it, and on top of it,
1:13:08
it's really cool to like see other people like,
1:13:10
oh my God, this is exactly how I am
1:13:12
with like, you know, my best friends and, you
1:13:15
know, and if anything, it just makes
1:13:17
you realize like, oh my God, like,
1:13:20
we're just all the same fucking people,
1:13:22
you know, like
1:13:24
there's just out here trying to laugh and have
1:13:26
that connection with friends and like, yeah, just
1:13:29
trying to, you know, well
1:13:31
currently and many times we're
1:13:34
just trying to survive and then hope
1:13:36
that's right, you know, and we when
1:13:38
we're all just trying to survive together,
1:13:40
it is as if we're
1:13:42
thriving. I think that's like what has been really wonderful
1:13:44
about the podcast too. And maybe for listeners like everyone
1:13:48
has shit man. Yeah,
1:13:51
someone has everyone does. I
1:13:53
do. I mean, I
1:13:55
got all kinds of shit and everyone has life
1:13:58
in families and kids and. bills
1:14:00
and jobs and all
1:14:02
the... So much shit. Like way more than anyone
1:14:04
probably should have and everyone deals with it now.
1:14:07
There is not a person that does not have
1:14:09
like just one
1:14:11
thing after another after another. And
1:14:14
me and Gina, we
1:14:16
figured this out a long time ago. Like
1:14:18
the best... For us, like the best medicine
1:14:20
and the best way to get through something
1:14:22
hard definitely is camaraderie. It's having a friend
1:14:26
there. But for us, it's not having a
1:14:28
friend that's like can help you solve your
1:14:30
problem. It's like someone you
1:14:34
can just go through it with and
1:14:37
you can laugh about it. And the
1:14:39
stuff that really sucks, it's
1:14:42
that connection with friends. Well,
1:14:46
when I say friends, it's kind of like friends
1:14:48
is kind of like a loose term. Like we
1:14:50
have friends. I have people who are my friends
1:14:52
but you don't really like connect with them. Like
1:14:54
we're life partners. We've said it for a long
1:14:56
time. And
1:15:00
the level of
1:15:02
understanding is amazing.
1:15:05
But being able to find
1:15:08
humor through all of
1:15:10
the surviving. That is it to me, it's
1:15:12
like all of a sudden just being able to do that immediately
1:15:16
changes to thriving. Like you
1:15:18
may not have it all together. We're never going to
1:15:20
have it all together. There's always going
1:15:22
to be something different. Like we've talked about on the last
1:15:24
podcast was all these weird old things that
1:15:27
are happening. Like you're never going
1:15:29
to have it all together. And with
1:15:31
social media and all the
1:15:34
shit, it makes it look like
1:15:36
people have it together. They don't. And
1:15:39
I always like that's always like to me, it's
1:15:41
the worst part about social. Like one of the
1:15:43
worst things, there's lots of them. Like
1:15:45
the worst part is like even if
1:15:47
you are someone who you don't want,
1:15:50
you want to be authentic. You're not trying to like
1:15:52
just get
1:15:54
likes or whatever. You
1:15:57
almost can't. start
1:16:00
doing it the wrong way where
1:16:02
you start performing for
1:16:04
your followers, you perform to
1:16:07
the people what they want and it's so
1:16:09
hard. You don't even realize it when it's happening.
1:16:11
You don't even realize it and
1:16:16
I can honestly, I really feel like
1:16:18
I can honestly say like I've never really been that person
1:16:21
but for me, it's like you get so
1:16:23
consumed when you have so many
1:16:26
things you have to do. You got
1:16:28
so many people you got to answer to and I got to make sure I'm doing this
1:16:30
for you. I got to make sure I'm doing this for you and it
1:16:33
becomes like all of a sudden you are wrapped
1:16:36
in that life because it's all about like putting
1:16:38
out this, putting out this, make sure this and
1:16:40
then you have social media and it's like now
1:16:42
and Instagram and all these things, it's tied to
1:16:44
businesses. It's not just people and personalities
1:16:46
or like people anymore. It's like, oh, business has
1:16:48
to have a social media and
1:16:50
you got to do that and it
1:16:53
is exhausting. It is not
1:16:55
fun. Well, I
1:16:57
think it's exhausting for you because you are an
1:16:59
authentic person. I think that
1:17:03
there are people out there that that is
1:17:05
what they aspire to, right? Like they aspire
1:17:07
to like have over a million followers and
1:17:10
they want to do this and want to
1:17:12
do that and it's like that. And they
1:17:14
have the personality, they have the energy and
1:17:16
personality. Well, maybe, maybe, but this
1:17:19
is actually a compliment to you because I think that
1:17:21
a lot
1:17:24
of people don't realize like
1:17:26
you became an, I'm going to do
1:17:28
quote Mark's influencer in the time that that
1:17:31
was like an up and coming thing. I
1:17:33
remember we were like, I hated that word.
1:17:36
I remember you got
1:17:40
like an invitation to these awards and it
1:17:42
was like an influencer award.
1:17:44
I got nominated, nominated and I was
1:17:46
like, what is that? I know I
1:17:48
didn't know either. I was like, and
1:17:50
this, this is just going to show
1:17:52
like how, how so much has changed
1:17:54
in the last five years. Right. And
1:17:57
you and I were like, what is that? And then
1:17:59
you were I don't know, it says like influencer.
1:18:03
And that has become such a normal
1:18:06
word, right? Like up to
1:18:08
this day, like to where everybody's like, oh, now
1:18:11
like kids are growing up and going like,
1:18:13
I wanna be an influencer. And it was
1:18:15
like, this was like a, yeah, like this
1:18:17
was a second hand thing that happened to
1:18:20
you naturally. And
1:18:22
I was up again from, you know, Williams. Yeah,
1:18:24
yeah. I ain't gonna win. But
1:18:28
the point is, is that it was never something
1:18:30
that you set out to do. And
1:18:33
I think that the beauty
1:18:35
of the podcast has been for
1:18:38
people, you know, your followers or, you know,
1:18:41
those that you're influencing, it's
1:18:44
been a really nice way
1:18:46
for them to see who you are really
1:18:49
rather than all the shit, you
1:18:51
know, because it's easy to like post
1:18:54
something of you working out or
1:18:56
you, you know, in booty shorts or
1:18:58
you, you know, your body or whatever.
1:19:02
And I think that that's, I
1:19:06
think it's, I don't wanna
1:19:08
say sad for people who
1:19:11
are just aspiring like, oh, I
1:19:13
have to wear those things and do that.
1:19:16
It is sad, it is sad because attention,
1:19:18
because that's not what you set out to
1:19:20
do. And I love the podcast, at
1:19:22
least for those people that really
1:19:25
love you and wanted to
1:19:28
follow you, got to see who you actually
1:19:30
are. Yeah, that's not what
1:19:32
you're gonna see necessarily on Instagram. Yeah,
1:19:34
right. Well, you definitely won't see it
1:19:36
online because one, I
1:19:39
absolutely detest writing
1:19:42
long ass. Right.
1:19:45
I know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What
1:19:47
do they even call it? What do you call it? A
1:19:49
description? Yeah.
1:19:53
In the body of the, the
1:19:55
body. I like, what is that
1:19:58
called? Caption. Caption. I
1:20:00
detest it. My
1:20:02
bad. And
1:20:07
reasoning why I detest it for probably the
1:20:09
most major part, it's not because I think
1:20:13
that people that write big long captions are
1:20:15
dumb or sad, scared
1:20:18
kids. I'm scared kids. Sometimes
1:20:23
I read these captions, they're just like paragraphs
1:20:26
long. I'm like, who? I'm not
1:20:28
going to read that. And I don't. And by
1:20:30
the time I read it, I'm like,
1:20:32
now I'm spending so much
1:20:34
time here, I've got to scroll on. Yeah.
1:20:37
But for me, it's more
1:20:39
so like Instagram started out as
1:20:43
like MySpace,
1:20:46
right? Like you connected
1:20:48
with your friends, you posted pictures, you
1:20:51
commented. And for
1:20:53
me, whenever I would try so hard
1:20:55
to like, really fill
1:20:57
out like the description or write anything, whatever I'm talking,
1:20:59
whatever I wanted to talk about, it
1:21:02
just felt like it was trying too hard. And I
1:21:04
don't and I didn't want to do that. Like if
1:21:07
I had something to say, I would say it. But
1:21:09
for the most part, it was a I'm
1:21:13
not going to people's Instagrams to read their captions.
1:21:16
So I did not spend the time putting
1:21:18
a bunch of messages in messages in my
1:21:20
captions. It's not that it's I didn't have
1:21:22
messages to give. It also could be that
1:21:24
like just the time it would take to
1:21:26
try and cultivate
1:21:28
the perfect caption was
1:21:31
way too time consuming. And I was like, no. But
1:21:35
don't you also feel like when you're put into this
1:21:37
now this category, right, you're
1:21:39
in this category of like, no
1:21:41
shit, I had no idea now
1:21:43
I'm influencing people. You
1:21:45
know what I mean? Now
1:21:49
I have to fucking
1:21:51
say all this shit that's like so
1:21:53
influential. Yeah, you know,
1:21:55
and I didn't ask for this. Yep.
1:21:58
And and I. And I think that that
1:22:01
too is a huge thing. And
1:22:04
now you have people who are aspiring
1:22:06
to be influencers and
1:22:08
now they're trying to be really inspiring.
1:22:11
And my thing is like, who the fuck
1:22:14
are you inspiring? Like, I just,
1:22:17
I think that you inspire people
1:22:19
by what you do in
1:22:21
your life, which is
1:22:23
exactly how it happened for you. That's
1:22:25
what it was. But that's also
1:22:27
what it was, right? That's
1:22:30
why when being an influencer, when that
1:22:32
word became such a hot topic
1:22:34
and it became a label,
1:22:39
people that have influence, they're
1:22:41
never trying to influence. Right. You
1:22:44
know what I mean? And that's what bothered me the most about it. You
1:22:47
have people
1:22:50
that have these millions of followers
1:22:52
and early on with millions, I
1:22:55
mean having a million followers now is
1:22:57
like not, it's not the
1:23:00
drop in the bucket, in comparison to
1:23:02
the whole thing. And like, but these
1:23:04
people, you're like, okay, this person has
1:23:06
a millions of followers, they're getting like
1:23:08
all their deals and they're now TikTok
1:23:10
get the same shit. Like, oh, you
1:23:12
danced on TikTok and now you're making
1:23:14
millions and you're like 20 years
1:23:17
old. Right. Like,
1:23:19
okay, that's off to
1:23:21
you. That's really, you did it. Like
1:23:24
you snuck through, you didn't think whatever, what
1:23:26
bothers me about it is I
1:23:29
feel like the zero
1:23:34
attention that's being put on
1:23:37
what is actually happening. You know, like
1:23:39
what are you showing? What
1:23:41
are we, we are basically we're
1:23:43
offering, we're giving people the world if
1:23:47
they do what we want, which happens to be
1:23:49
show me your body as a female. Right. But
1:23:52
at the same time, those same females are
1:23:54
like, don't talk about my, if you say
1:23:56
anything sexual about my body and you're like,
1:23:58
listen, then show us there's more to you
1:24:01
than. what you show us in pictures because
1:24:03
there's no personality, right? You are a dime
1:24:05
a dozen, right? I mean I'm
1:24:07
surrounded by beautiful women all the time.
1:24:09
My niece is, I mean, we talked
1:24:11
about it, like pretty, it's fleeting,
1:24:13
you reminded me, you taught me that
1:24:15
very early on. Like we're only getting older, we're
1:24:17
only getting uglier, like there has to be something
1:24:19
more to you, like what can I bring to
1:24:21
the table that makes me more valuable and how
1:24:24
I look? And the
1:24:26
podcast has definitely been something that has
1:24:28
given us this platform to have real
1:24:30
conversation and give
1:24:33
those, you know, more descriptive, take
1:24:35
the time to really describe something or answer a
1:24:37
question versus like what you can do on a
1:24:39
comment. Like, you know, that's why texting
1:24:41
sucks, that's why I send voicemails all the time, especially
1:24:43
if I have something I really need to say to
1:24:45
you. One, either I don't want
1:24:47
to take the time to text it out and if I try to
1:24:50
cut it short, if I cut it
1:24:52
short, you're good, I'll probably sound short,
1:24:54
cold, mean, aggressive,
1:24:56
mean, aggressive, you know, and
1:24:58
like what that's not intentional
1:25:01
at all, that's not it
1:25:03
at all. But
1:25:06
yeah, I think that it's
1:25:08
really, I think it's pretty terrible. I'm just
1:25:10
gonna go out and say, I think it's pretty
1:25:14
terrible that we've gotten to a place where
1:25:16
there's been so much success
1:25:20
or possibility of success
1:25:22
or putting people
1:25:24
up on pedestals for
1:25:28
what they can give you and
1:25:30
then celebrating them for it. And
1:25:32
in a second, they don't fit
1:25:35
that mold anymore by...
1:25:38
Right. Wow. You're obsolete.
1:25:40
Like all people in
1:25:43
our own, in your life, like you don't, you
1:25:45
won't want people to treat you like that. No.
1:25:47
But how are you treating people on social media?
1:25:49
How are you treating people online? Like all
1:25:52
people do is we're just, we're
1:25:54
just measuring each other, measuring up against
1:25:56
this person. Oh, this is it
1:25:58
now. Oh no, they're cool now. Like just,
1:26:01
we just want to be in, we just want
1:26:03
to be in the it crowd. And it's like,
1:26:05
I'm done with it. Like, and we, and we
1:26:07
figured this out a long time ago. Yeah, it's
1:26:09
immature, right? I mean, it's like what you do
1:26:11
in high, like in, in middle school, you
1:26:13
know, like that's like, what happened to
1:26:15
becoming an adult and realizing that we
1:26:18
gauge people on their merit, not
1:26:21
on their followers. You
1:26:23
know, we gauge people on, you
1:26:25
know, their, their values,
1:26:28
not on their people, how you're treating
1:26:30
people. I mean, it's, it's
1:26:32
crazy to me. And
1:26:35
I, and I always wonder, and you know, we've
1:26:37
talked about this so many times, like you
1:26:40
put somebody on this pedestal and
1:26:43
then it's so easy to, you
1:26:46
know, if they're not, if they're not exactly what
1:26:49
we want them to be, to just nail
1:26:52
them and down and cancel all
1:26:55
these things to them. I
1:26:58
worry about our youth growing
1:27:01
up in this,
1:27:03
in this age of, of really
1:27:05
caring about followers and this and
1:27:07
that, which we've said a million times,
1:27:10
they're not your friends. You
1:27:12
know, so you have this many friends or
1:27:14
this many followers. I
1:27:17
worry about when
1:27:20
that stops for somebody because
1:27:22
it's gonna stop. I mean, can
1:27:24
you imagine these people,
1:27:26
like you said, like on TikTok that have
1:27:28
like millions and millions of followers and
1:27:31
they're doing all these videos and
1:27:33
their dances and whatever, whatever. And
1:27:36
they're under this impression and they've
1:27:39
built like an entire life
1:27:41
around this. You know, that's how they get
1:27:44
their money or, you know, their sponsors and
1:27:46
all this stuff. And it's
1:27:48
like, what happens when that
1:27:50
stops? And it does. And
1:27:53
it does. And even if it's, even if it's just
1:27:55
a lull in time, right? You know, and I can
1:27:57
tell you, stop. I mean, like, can you see me?
1:28:00
like doing fucking, you
1:28:02
know, doing all this stuff. It's like, and
1:28:04
I, it's not, it's not, it
1:28:09
stops for me. I mean, there's periods of
1:28:12
time like where I still have
1:28:14
to do social, right? Like for work and, and
1:28:16
whatever. Now
1:28:20
I don't really do social for work. Like
1:28:23
I, I do it and I have
1:28:25
businesses that it's important for, you know, but
1:28:27
I don't really do it for work anymore.
1:28:29
Why? Because I don't have a bunch of
1:28:31
sponsors and you could look at
1:28:34
that as like, man, you're kind of lame or
1:28:37
no, man, man. Are
1:28:39
you free? Yeah. Do I make way less money? Yes.
1:28:45
Yeah. But you know what? But
1:28:47
the reality is like there, if you are someone who's
1:28:49
younger and maybe you're listening, you're like, well, you know,
1:28:51
you're really in the social media game. We
1:28:54
all are, but I'm telling
1:28:56
you to work on
1:28:58
your, your perspective of what
1:29:00
that is and how, and where it fits into
1:29:02
your life, the
1:29:05
sooner you figure that out, the better,
1:29:07
because it is undoubtedly, there will be
1:29:09
a moment in time where you will
1:29:11
never feel so alone. Yeah.
1:29:13
It's a fleeting, a fleeting thing.
1:29:16
Right. I mean, I
1:29:18
think that there's so much
1:29:20
good that can come from it too. I mean,
1:29:22
there, there is so much good that comes from
1:29:24
social, you know, when I think about like certain
1:29:26
businesses that are out there fighting a good fight,
1:29:28
whether it's raising money for something or
1:29:30
doing these things like, yes, but
1:29:33
also young kids. And I don't think we have
1:29:35
a lot of young listeners, hopefully
1:29:37
not. But
1:29:39
parents, you have kids that
1:29:42
are like really into their social media, they're incredible at
1:29:44
their sport and they do it on the thing. And
1:29:46
probably if they're kids, you're helping them. It
1:29:50
is a wonderful thing. And you have the argument
1:29:52
and we've talked about it, but I don't fully
1:29:54
agree with this argument, but I understand it. The
1:29:56
argument of we live in a digital time. Your
1:29:58
kids should know how to... use digital things.
1:30:00
You don't want to keep them from having a
1:30:02
phone. You don't want to keep them from having
1:30:05
an iPad. Yes, you do, dude. Yes, you do.
1:30:08
The data that's come out of how awful screen
1:30:12
time is for brain
1:30:15
development. I mean, if you
1:30:17
want to just talk about that type of stuff
1:30:20
for their health, like let's say not just mental
1:30:22
health, just health, not good. It's
1:30:24
not good at all. And
1:30:26
that should scare you. And what's hard is
1:30:29
like I even noticed it was like my
1:30:31
niece, the nephews. It's
1:30:35
almost like we're at a point, if
1:30:37
you have younger kids, you can probably figure this shit
1:30:40
out or put a stop to it. But
1:30:42
at a certain point, it's almost like you
1:30:44
could feel like we've gone too far.
1:30:46
Yeah, like it's too late. And
1:30:49
now you have to be very strategic
1:30:51
about how can I redirect their
1:30:53
attention? How can I make them
1:30:55
be interested in something that's better for them? And
1:30:57
that's kind of the like the life I'm
1:31:00
kind of living right now. I'm not a mom.
1:31:02
I'm not married. I live
1:31:04
at home. And I am the
1:31:07
same as Gina is like I worry and
1:31:09
I care about the youth so much, especially
1:31:12
mine that
1:31:15
I am like, I'm just going to spend time with kids. You
1:31:18
know, like I had my niece the other day and we're in
1:31:20
the car, we're going somewhere and she's
1:31:23
Jersey and she's just developing. I mean,
1:31:26
has the cutest figure and I'm also
1:31:28
like, I didn't have
1:31:33
boobs. I
1:31:35
know, like,
1:31:38
I'm cute. But
1:31:40
I said to her like, you know, there's
1:31:42
just like little signs you have teenage girls
1:31:45
and I was the same way
1:31:47
but different. Like I didn't
1:31:49
we I didn't grow up in this the
1:31:51
way things are now. Like it's right a harder,
1:31:53
you know, I had like teen vogue, like you
1:31:55
had a magazine that you didn't get it because
1:31:57
he had all the time like right that was
1:31:59
your Visuals and then you and kids are
1:32:01
mean at school. So then you deal
1:32:03
with that Can you imagine when it's like now at school
1:32:06
how mean kids can be at school now? Like awful So
1:32:09
I was telling my niece I was I told her I was like,
1:32:12
I just need you to like hear me out. Okay,
1:32:15
I Kind
1:32:19
of had this conversation of about like things
1:32:22
the things shoes like whatever school I'm
1:32:26
like you may I'm like if you ever
1:32:28
go to school or you're like a dance or whatever
1:32:30
I'm like, maybe something's really cool whether it's like shoes
1:32:32
or a bag or Maybe
1:32:34
it's like a new phone or some headphones
1:32:36
or whatever it is I'm like
1:32:38
and they everyone's got it and they think it's pretty
1:32:40
cool and maybe they like touch it to you or
1:32:42
like Joke around or like make fun
1:32:44
of you because you don't have it. I'm like,
1:32:47
I need you to hear me out All
1:32:50
that is So
1:32:53
stupid Like it
1:32:55
is so stupid and
1:32:58
all those people all those friends. They
1:33:00
will realize it in some years Right
1:33:04
and do not I might I might do not care
1:33:07
I'm like, I know and I'm I
1:33:09
always tell her I'm like you can always call me
1:33:11
you can always talk to me We can figure
1:33:13
anything out. I'm like, but you gotta promise me
1:33:15
you are not gonna be some dumb bimbo You're
1:33:19
gonna be intellectual You're
1:33:21
nice you know all
1:33:23
these things that like I Feel
1:33:26
and I know this isn't everybody, you know, if you're
1:33:28
listening you're like, well, I'm not like that This is
1:33:31
not everybody but I feel like across the board if
1:33:33
we like talk and we're just about America a lot
1:33:35
of people here right, so It's
1:33:39
almost celebrated to be pretty
1:33:41
and dumb And
1:33:44
it's really annoying and it
1:33:47
is and the thing is though is like that doesn't
1:33:49
serve you Like if you're someone
1:33:51
who has like ambitions or maybe your ambitions you're
1:33:53
young is like just to be an influencer Hopefully
1:33:56
your parents can help redirect you to like let's
1:33:58
get let's let's do that But what
1:34:00
do we want to do it in? Right? Like, right. What
1:34:03
are we going to have influence because of what? Like,
1:34:05
what do you love? Like what activity? What is this?
1:34:07
Like, what do you like to write, like to draw,
1:34:09
whatever it is. Like, let's add
1:34:11
something to it now. Yes. Like, let's
1:34:13
be an influencer and like do
1:34:16
these things. But everything
1:34:19
with TikTok, with Instagram, it
1:34:21
really is about your
1:34:24
looks and
1:34:28
how many followers you have. And the way you get
1:34:31
there is by being sexier and dancing better and like
1:34:33
putting out more content. And it
1:34:35
just stresses me out because it's so,
1:34:39
it is so sad. And I have had, I mean,
1:34:41
all of us, so
1:34:44
many sad days in our life,
1:34:46
right? Like we're, you just, it
1:34:48
feels awful. I mean, debilitating, rough
1:34:50
days. And of course,
1:34:52
you don't want those things for your kids. Just
1:34:54
like my mom doesn't want them for me. Like
1:34:56
when I'm going through some shit, I get for
1:34:59
my mom. I'm not a
1:35:01
mom, but I do understand
1:35:03
this, especially after I posted that thing, I think
1:35:05
I was talking about how your
1:35:09
mother, there is a piece of her
1:35:11
living in all of her children. There's
1:35:14
that is passed on to all your children. This
1:35:16
is such a beautiful thing. You
1:35:18
know, like my mom has always talked about
1:35:20
it. It's like, if I hurt, she
1:35:23
hurts. Oh, yeah. You know
1:35:25
what I mean? Like, and it didn't matter if
1:35:27
I were home or I'm across the country. Yeah.
1:35:31
Like, and it's true.
1:35:33
Like, no,
1:35:36
I don't want like my niece to go through shit
1:35:39
that's like unnecessary. And so
1:35:41
I'm like constantly on kind of like playing
1:35:43
defense. But
1:35:45
that's the problem, right? It's like, they're
1:35:48
going to Oh, 100%. And
1:35:50
that's the thing is like, how do we teach our
1:35:53
children to deal with it? To deal
1:35:55
with? Because
1:35:57
they, regardless of
1:36:00
of us telling them, you
1:36:03
know, all these things. Oh, yeah. How
1:36:05
are we going to actually get
1:36:07
them to a point like where
1:36:09
they're self-confident enough? And I
1:36:11
think a lot of it is confidence, right? It's
1:36:14
like trying not to be codependent, trying not
1:36:16
to be, you know. One thing
1:36:18
I read about that, one thing I actually read about
1:36:20
that, that was talking about how to increase just
1:36:23
independency, really confidence.
1:36:26
And then the feeling of like that
1:36:28
when you see, when you finish a
1:36:30
task or you complete something like that
1:36:32
gratifying, like you feel good about yourself.
1:36:36
You don't need someone to tell you. Right. Now
1:36:38
we live in a time where it's like everyone just
1:36:41
wants you to tell you. We want instant gratification and
1:36:43
it doesn't matter what you think or your family thinks.
1:36:45
It's like, well, what did they think? Even though
1:36:47
you don't know them. Right.
1:36:49
Which is bizarre. But the guy, the
1:36:51
thing I was reading about, it was talking about the
1:36:53
importance of work. Kids
1:36:56
when they're young. Mm-hmm. Because
1:36:59
you put them to work, whether it's
1:37:01
yard work, you give them chores. You
1:37:03
basically give them something they're responsible for. Because
1:37:07
they may not like to do it, but when
1:37:09
they do it, they learn how to complete tasks.
1:37:11
They learn how to work for something. And
1:37:14
it feels good when you do it
1:37:17
and you finish it. It feels
1:37:19
good. So it teaches them like
1:37:21
how to make themselves feel good. Mm-hmm.
1:37:24
You know, and I think that not
1:37:27
everywhere, obviously, again, I'll say it again, and not
1:37:29
everyone again, I'll say it because probably
1:37:32
really just anyone that doesn't pertain to
1:37:35
is anyone in a rural area, like
1:37:37
where you're doing work outside. Mm-hmm.
1:37:40
You know what I mean? Like those kids are happy, man.
1:37:43
Around the time of their life. But
1:37:46
a lot of people, we don't, they don't live that
1:37:48
way anymore. They're in the city or whatever. And
1:37:51
it's a time where everyone gets
1:37:53
offended and no one's feelings hurt and
1:37:56
everyone wants a participation trophy and
1:37:58
there's no losing and everyone's a winner. No.
1:38:01
Well that's why
1:38:03
why how did we ever get to a point where people
1:38:05
like this is how it should be
1:38:07
it's like no man that's never how it was.
1:38:11
Life is like that old skip from Chris
1:38:13
from Delia where he's like you're gonna fail
1:38:15
a lot kid. Yeah you
1:38:19
know like but that but that is the truth like you have
1:38:22
to learn how to lose right. Yes.
1:38:24
Because and then you win
1:38:26
and then it's like men when
1:38:28
you do lose and when you put in the work
1:38:31
then all of a sudden win whether it's like
1:38:33
a kid in like a track meet right like
1:38:35
running racing or whatever they
1:38:37
learn how to handle like they it's
1:38:40
it's helping them learn emotional intelligence and
1:38:42
control and like what really is important
1:38:44
and really doesn't matter and
1:38:47
I don't know
1:38:51
how like the best route to do
1:38:53
that I think we've had this conversation years
1:38:56
ago on here talking
1:38:58
about like there's no road
1:39:00
map like that was my thing when all of a
1:39:02
sudden it was like an influencer and I had all
1:39:04
these people not all these
1:39:06
people but people yeah a lot of
1:39:09
people and things all of a sudden all
1:39:11
of a sudden they don't like like you said and we talked
1:39:13
about it where they find
1:39:16
you they love what you're doing and
1:39:19
then after they follow you for a while we
1:39:21
all start you know it's you're not
1:39:24
just watching it on TV like if you watch the show
1:39:26
on TV like you can't give them your feedback right
1:39:30
on social media it's this interactive thing
1:39:34
interactive relationship where you don't really know them and it's
1:39:36
like you can constantly build them up
1:39:38
or ruin their fucking day yeah and it's
1:39:40
all based off on how you
1:39:42
feel about it mm-hmm like oh you're
1:39:44
writing a whore oh for me oh you're
1:39:47
at a shooting range of your shooting guns
1:39:49
well I hate guns and I love you
1:39:51
and I followed you for yours but I'm
1:39:53
unfollowing you because of this you're
1:39:55
the worst person ever it's like I'm
1:39:59
a person with We're all very complex
1:40:01
and we like different things. We're all just trying
1:40:03
to do our freakin best, right? I have a
1:40:05
different background I know all of a sudden because
1:40:07
I'm shooting guns and you follow me and
1:40:09
you love me and you know my personality I put
1:40:11
me in this box of but now it's like
1:40:13
I think I am like, okay It's almost as
1:40:15
if they've drawn me and they're like, I
1:40:18
gotta change your outfit. No, we don't like
1:40:20
that anymore, right? That's
1:40:22
a terrible haircut change that and it's all it's
1:40:25
everyone just behind the screen Yeah,
1:40:27
you know and I think that that is
1:40:29
almost Inevitable
1:40:32
because of the way it is and because you
1:40:34
get to comment and be like, you know keyboard
1:40:36
lawyer or whatever they used to call them and
1:40:41
With kids that want to be influencers There's
1:40:45
just so much shit
1:40:48
That you have to battle through because
1:40:51
of it, right? Well, you're opening yourself up and
1:40:55
Emotionally Yeah And
1:40:58
then you know now we have this whole epidemic of like mental
1:41:00
health and it's like that's always been a thing But
1:41:02
probably not in the way that it is now,
1:41:04
you know a lot of mental health was really
1:41:06
like a like PTSD and more vets and trauma
1:41:10
definitely like traumatic experiences,
1:41:12
but I'm I Finish
1:41:15
your thought but I was gonna tell you like well, I'm
1:41:17
gonna say I'm gonna say something in our business Many
1:41:20
people I know I have so many
1:41:22
people In our
1:41:25
businesses and it's all young
1:41:27
people very young people like I mean
1:41:29
i'm talking like High school kids
1:41:31
that are like working part-time That's
1:41:33
a lot of restaurants here shutting down. They can't
1:41:36
they can't stay open because the quality always garbage
1:41:38
Well, no, they want to take a
1:41:41
mental health day. Yes, and it's
1:41:43
like Well,
1:41:46
do you you're like that's for
1:41:48
sunday, right, right do
1:41:51
you need I You
1:41:53
know and again like not to not
1:41:55
to back on mental health. I think
1:41:57
like everything in this country I think
1:42:00
I think that there are things that need
1:42:02
to be addressed. There are people with like
1:42:04
real mental health problems and it's okay to
1:42:06
talk about and it's okay to talk, you
1:42:09
know, be open about and we
1:42:11
need to, you know, take
1:42:13
care of those people and be
1:42:15
okay with those people like taking
1:42:17
a mental health day. But now
1:42:19
it's gotten like everything that happens.
1:42:21
It's like a training disability. It's
1:42:23
like it's like it's like it's
1:42:25
like a training disability. I'm
1:42:27
taking a mental health day because
1:42:29
what like I, you know,
1:42:32
you had a hard night. I hit all the red
1:42:34
light and a little bit of work and it just
1:42:36
really triggered me. And
1:42:39
it's like, I have
1:42:41
anxiety. Like sure, debilitating
1:42:43
anxiety some days. Like
1:42:46
throughout my day, I get it. Like
1:42:48
we all do. What happens if
1:42:51
you're listening and you're like, man, that's kind
1:42:53
of harsh. Right. It's one of
1:42:55
those hard conversations. It's the truth. We
1:42:58
all do a shit. We all and
1:43:01
whenever we just sit in that we,
1:43:04
we, I mean, like if I sit in it
1:43:06
and I do like I have moments where I get,
1:43:09
I've got so much going on and
1:43:11
I get so overwhelmed and
1:43:13
I get stuck and it
1:43:16
is a terrible feeling. It's
1:43:18
awful. And
1:43:20
I'm sure you guys for sure, but then
1:43:22
people listening and you're like, oh yeah, that happens to me too.
1:43:25
It happens to everybody. That
1:43:27
doesn't mean that the whole
1:43:29
population has to all of a sudden
1:43:31
we quit everything because we just can't handle it anymore. It's
1:43:35
just the reality is you
1:43:37
still have your responsibility. And
1:43:41
that does, and there's, there's obviously there's nuances and there's,
1:43:43
there's different levels to like, what are you dealing with?
1:43:45
But like what Gina you're saying, a 100% man. It's
1:43:49
becoming trendy. It's trendy.
1:43:52
And I have, I have shit
1:43:55
I have to deal with every day. I'm not saying
1:43:57
that it's fake because I live it every day. deal
1:44:00
with it every day but
1:44:02
it is trendy. Just
1:44:04
like it was trendy to like we had the
1:44:06
conversation talking about people that are overweight like way
1:44:09
overweight and
1:44:12
like watching like my 600 pound life and
1:44:14
have a conversation with you know with a
1:44:17
friend where it was really
1:44:20
the victim mindset that's probably the biggest I
1:44:22
mean that's probably the that's the cornerstone of
1:44:24
it like a very mind when you're stuck
1:44:27
in a victim mindset which I feel like this day
1:44:29
and age that's majority of people it's so easy to
1:44:31
get there and when you have
1:44:33
camaraderie there it's cool it's like I'm
1:44:35
sad like we're sad and my life's
1:44:37
hard and I'm taking a mental health
1:44:39
day and let's do it together like
1:44:41
when you have that you don't ever need
1:44:43
to get over it you don't ever
1:44:45
need to get through it well
1:44:48
and at what point are we are
1:44:50
we responsible for making change
1:44:53
in our lives right you know what
1:44:55
I mean because it's it's
1:44:58
you know we all have stuff
1:45:00
I mean I you know my
1:45:02
like you've dealt with anxiety
1:45:04
and panic attacks and I
1:45:07
you know my sister had dealt with that I
1:45:09
never dealt with it I had
1:45:12
empathy for it but I didn't really know what
1:45:14
it what it meant until I actually had one
1:45:16
and I was like oh shit like this is
1:45:18
this is gnarly like I feel like I'm you
1:45:21
know I'm gonna have I'm
1:45:23
gonna die yeah you know and and
1:45:26
I can't breathe and I so
1:45:28
like we have we have these
1:45:31
things on the spectrum of
1:45:33
you know very severe but then everybody
1:45:35
kind of like it's
1:45:38
kind of like I I liken it
1:45:40
to if
1:45:42
anyone's ever dealt with like migraines mm-hmm
1:45:45
I've had actual migraines like where you feel
1:45:47
like you're gonna throw up and you have
1:45:49
to be in a dark room and then
1:45:51
my you know my cousin my cousin can't
1:45:53
I mean it is off no they're awful
1:45:55
they're awful but the point is is that
1:45:57
I used to say before actually
1:46:00
got migraines. Oh my god,
1:46:02
my head hurts so bad. I think it's a
1:46:04
migraine. And so what it does is it is
1:46:07
it kind of lessens it for the people who
1:46:09
are actually dealing with real
1:46:11
migraines. You know, it's
1:46:13
like no, a migraine isn't just a
1:46:16
really bad headache. A migraine is like
1:46:18
meeting a mental viddie, lay down vomiting,
1:46:20
right? And so it's
1:46:23
kind of feeling ever.
1:46:25
It is bad. A migraine is bad. But
1:46:27
the problem in our society is that we're
1:46:29
like, Oh my god, we want to make
1:46:31
sure that these people that are dealing with
1:46:33
these really hard things, we need to make
1:46:36
sure that they have protection, right? But then
1:46:38
everybody jumps on
1:46:40
the fucking bandwagon and then
1:46:43
everybody's got, you know, oh
1:46:45
my god, I'm having a panic attack. I'm like, if you
1:46:47
were having a panic attack right now, you
1:46:49
would not be here just saying, Oh
1:46:52
my god, I'm having a panic attack
1:46:54
on the ground. I would lay down.
1:46:56
Right. Like this is a very different
1:46:58
thing. And so that's the problem is
1:47:00
that we're trying so hard to make
1:47:03
life okay. Because
1:47:05
we care about other people for trying
1:47:07
to make life okay for those people
1:47:10
who actually have them. But then everybody
1:47:12
gets to be, you know, I'm
1:47:14
I need a mental health day and
1:47:17
I need, you know, I'm having a
1:47:19
panic attack. I'm having a migraine. It's like that.
1:47:22
You're, you're literally just being fucking dramatic. Yes.
1:47:24
I'm going to play this. I posted on
1:47:26
my Instagram story and you guys probably seen
1:47:28
it, but I'm gonna play it anyways. I
1:47:30
cannot remember what this comedian's name is. Oh,
1:47:32
it's so really controversial. Yeah. He's really
1:47:35
funny. This is real. This is, let's see if
1:47:37
you can hear it. The
1:47:40
teacher doesn't like me. Let me turn over.
1:47:43
Let's see. Let's see. My mom and dad would say,
1:47:45
who gives a fuck? And life people
1:47:48
are not going to like you. Figure
1:47:50
it out. Now you guys, when you
1:47:52
have kids in elementary school, they come
1:47:54
home, they go, the teacher doesn't like
1:47:56
me. And you go, well, let's get
1:47:58
the teacher fired because my kids. Perfect.
1:48:00
You instill in his brain or her
1:48:03
brain that the world should bend
1:48:05
to them. And now
1:48:07
I'm doing comedy and I tell a joke
1:48:10
about something and someone stands up and they
1:48:12
go, I don't like that. Well, everyone
1:48:14
else is laughing, but that doesn't matter, because in
1:48:16
this moment I don't like it. So
1:48:18
now you have to leave. You get kicked out
1:48:20
of my show. Girl had a seizure at my
1:48:23
show. We checked on her. She was mine. She
1:48:25
leaves. Everything's good. So I started to make fun
1:48:27
of what happened to the situation and a girl
1:48:29
in the crowd stopped. She's like, you can't make
1:48:31
jokes about that. That's not funny. And I asked
1:48:33
what she did for a living. She said she
1:48:35
was an EMT. And I was like, why didn't
1:48:37
you help? This is what we do now. We
1:48:40
couldn't blame, but we don't help. Yeah.
1:48:44
Yeah. That's one of those hard truths,
1:48:46
guys. And I urge you,
1:48:49
when we have hard truths, not to pull
1:48:51
back. That's also the thing that's very
1:48:53
normal now. It's like we all live
1:48:56
in our own truth where it's like if you offend
1:48:58
me or you don't agree with me, it's like you're
1:49:00
wrong. I don't like what you're saying.
1:49:02
I'm going to cancel you. That's not
1:49:04
how life works. And
1:49:10
outside of, I mean,
1:49:14
businesses, and we can, we'll
1:49:17
end this soon, but for
1:49:19
instance, like your family business,
1:49:21
Gina, businesses
1:49:23
still have to function. Right?
1:49:25
Like there's a job
1:49:27
to be done. So
1:49:30
dealing with a bunch of employees that
1:49:33
are sissies. They
1:49:35
are scared kids. And
1:49:40
they live in that so much that it's
1:49:42
like in their own mind, it's like they're
1:49:44
superior. They have
1:49:47
so much power. Yes. And there
1:49:49
is so much power because how
1:49:52
we got here, I don't really fully know,
1:49:54
and it totally sucks. But
1:49:56
it doesn't matter because at the end of the day, let's
1:49:58
just talk about it. businesses
1:50:00
jobs because all those idiots are going to have jobs,
1:50:03
you know, cause if they all think they're re influencers, they're
1:50:06
going to have a sad reality when
1:50:09
it comes time to like be an influencer, like, oh,
1:50:11
we influence, or they're not even, we don't have those
1:50:13
anymore. Now you got to try and be that
1:50:15
way. You know, it's like, you're going
1:50:17
to try and be something that it
1:50:21
may not, it seems nice because you
1:50:23
see all these lavish lifestyles on Instagram
1:50:27
back to it. Instagram is not
1:50:29
real. So even if someone lives with lavish
1:50:32
lifestyle, their life is hard and
1:50:35
they deal with shit and
1:50:37
they are posting all their best things. You
1:50:39
know, we see all the highlight reels of
1:50:42
someone's life and if
1:50:44
they're an influencer, it's planned. Things
1:50:47
are planned. Those posts
1:50:49
are planned. Yeah. You
1:50:52
know, like we, there was the whole thing where
1:50:54
all these influencers were like getting all their like,
1:50:56
I'm on a private jet photo. They were taking
1:50:58
fucking pictures in a jet park. Yeah.
1:51:01
It wasn't real, but what if people think like, Oh my
1:51:03
gosh, out of my mind, you're doing the most amazing life.
1:51:05
I just want to be you. And it's like, they're pretending
1:51:07
to be someone else too. Right. That's
1:51:09
not even their life. Well, and when, and
1:51:12
when did our, I
1:51:14
feel like what has happened is
1:51:16
that everyone's just living for themselves, like,
1:51:18
oh yeah, self gratification. People don't know
1:51:20
how to be self-gratification. Everything is like,
1:51:22
I'm going to be nice to you,
1:51:24
but like, I'm going to get something
1:51:27
in return, this interaction or one of
1:51:29
our favorites, Gina. Hey
1:51:31
guys, we're just at this restaurant and, uh, we're
1:51:34
going to give this waitress a billion
1:51:36
dollars because we're the best people ever. And
1:51:39
we just want to give. Right.
1:51:41
You know what? What I'm giving without
1:51:43
telling anybody. It's just in my mind,
1:51:45
and it could just be me, you
1:51:47
know, and us like. Mm-hmm. It's
1:51:53
not, but it's not just you.
1:51:55
It's just not genuine. And when
1:51:58
I know people that do that. and
1:52:01
it's like and I like them but
1:52:03
I see them do that I'm like
1:52:05
yeah that's gross like
1:52:07
what I mean I give but
1:52:10
not everything has to be an opportunity for you
1:52:12
to make something on the back end but
1:52:15
I think but I yeah you're right that
1:52:18
100% but like I also think
1:52:21
that when people again
1:52:23
are given a platform and I and
1:52:26
I do give kudos to you for
1:52:28
this because you've always been true to
1:52:30
yourself and real I think
1:52:32
that there are some people that get this and they go
1:52:35
oh I can make even more money
1:52:37
I can make more money if
1:52:39
I if I if I give
1:52:42
people what they want and and
1:52:44
I they can perceive this life
1:52:46
as being you know so so
1:52:49
beautiful and so pure that if you do
1:52:52
what I do I think you
1:52:54
always have to be leery of people who are
1:52:56
selling something and that's
1:52:58
for anybody right because
1:53:00
you're selling a lifestyle you're
1:53:03
selling whatever product you're selling
1:53:05
you're selling something and
1:53:08
and like you said it's
1:53:10
it's friends who even
1:53:13
that we like and you know
1:53:15
that you like and that you
1:53:17
love but it's
1:53:19
like if you're trying to show all
1:53:21
the stuff like if you do
1:53:23
this this and this you can be just like
1:53:25
me you can have this giant house and you
1:53:27
can have all these cars and you can have
1:53:29
this beautiful family because I'm
1:53:31
doing it it's like that's just
1:53:34
not fucking reality I mean there's
1:53:36
geography there's there's there's so many
1:53:38
things that come into play that
1:53:40
it's like no that's that's it's
1:53:42
not it's not true
1:53:45
well and that's why you know and like
1:53:48
where did I mean Devon
1:53:53
Devon Devon Devon What?
1:54:01
That boy's dying. I had to go grab the
1:54:03
sugar. Um,
1:54:07
oh, there you are. What I was going to say too
1:54:09
is like, we've
1:54:12
all, I mean, I speak for myself. I've
1:54:15
definitely had so many times in
1:54:17
my life where I
1:54:19
wanted that
1:54:21
life or that really like that
1:54:24
hair. Really? It's like
1:54:26
your hair and maybe your butt. Oh, yeah.
1:54:29
Normal. That's very normal. And like, I remember
1:54:31
too, like I years
1:54:33
ago, so out of
1:54:35
college, I remember, I don't
1:54:38
remember really what triggered it or whatever.
1:54:40
I feel like majority
1:54:42
of my life I've been a pretty observant
1:54:44
person and eventually
1:54:48
always like I'm willing to have
1:54:52
those hard conversations with myself about
1:54:54
like, you know, hard truths basically. Sure.
1:54:57
And I've definitely like everyone. I've
1:55:00
been the girl that like, when you
1:55:02
see something that someone has, you
1:55:04
initially just hate them for it. Right. It's
1:55:08
like, okay, well screw her. Right. And
1:55:10
I made a contract to find something
1:55:12
wrong with them. It's like, I made
1:55:14
a great decision a long time ago
1:55:17
to buy
1:55:20
in fully to
1:55:24
the fact that someone
1:55:26
who continues to just be like, well, they
1:55:28
suck because they have this and I want
1:55:30
this and I want this and really
1:55:33
just constantly measuring myself as if my life
1:55:36
sucks and everything I had, you
1:55:38
know, I didn't do that. But
1:55:40
like, you get what I'm saying? Like something about that where
1:55:42
it was it that will
1:55:44
keep you where you are. Yeah. You
1:55:48
know, like, and if I've learned anything just
1:55:50
through like our our our relationship together and
1:55:52
us three is like what
1:55:56
you say to yourself and how you talk to
1:55:58
yourself and how you the word you use
1:56:00
to talk about somebody, they
1:56:03
affect you. They affect your outcome
1:56:06
in everything. They do, you know?
1:56:08
And I
1:56:13
have a hard time with
1:56:16
people that are
1:56:20
willing to
1:56:23
sacrifice their
1:56:26
integrity in order to
1:56:29
make it or make it
1:56:31
cooler or get on top.
1:56:34
And it kind of comes down
1:56:45
to the question words like, well, if I did
1:56:47
XYZ, and that doesn't mean like, oh, if I
1:56:49
posted pictures of myself in swimsuits
1:56:52
or whatever? No. I mean,
1:56:54
like, if I was more willing to constantly
1:56:56
be on my Instagram story, if I was
1:56:58
more willing to just be like, selling
1:57:01
myself like, in everything all the time,
1:57:03
like, could I make more money? Yeah.
1:57:05
Yeah. But what I've learned
1:57:08
through experience, well
1:57:10
before now, is like, it's
1:57:12
exhausting. Well,
1:57:15
and you're tired. And then what happens
1:57:17
is like, you can get through it and you make it work
1:57:19
at your job. And you do love it. But at a certain
1:57:21
point, you don't love it anymore. At a
1:57:23
certain point, you find yourself not
1:57:26
describing as if this is like fully what I've gone
1:57:28
through, not for what I've gone through. But this is
1:57:30
this does happen to people to where
1:57:32
now you're alone. And maybe
1:57:34
you're not alone. But you
1:57:37
feel super low. Because
1:57:39
you don't have all that outside
1:57:41
gratification. Because now all of a sudden,
1:57:44
this the simple things that things that
1:57:46
are like the things that keep make
1:57:48
you happy, the little joys, right? Like
1:57:50
finding $5 in your pocket when you put in
1:57:52
your snow pants, right? Like
1:57:55
little joys, like, those are things that everyone
1:57:57
experiences that we there are things that happen
1:57:59
through throughout our day, but all of
1:58:01
a sudden, we only focus on the big thing.
1:58:04
And so now there's nothing that can just make us
1:58:06
happy. Right? No little thing can
1:58:08
just make us happy. Well, that's
1:58:10
the thing. It's like all these influencers
1:58:12
are, you know, quote unquote, they're
1:58:15
all going to get to an age, right?
1:58:18
Where there's no longer because
1:58:21
I mean, and I joked about it, like,
1:58:23
it's just going to get worse. But
1:58:26
the point is, is that you're just not
1:58:28
going to be marketable anymore. Right?
1:58:31
So say you're in I mean, 40s now
1:58:33
is like the the
1:58:36
20s, you know, years ago. But like,
1:58:38
say like, you're like me, like in your 50s.
1:58:41
And if I had grown up in a
1:58:43
situation where I really cared about all that
1:58:45
stuff, I
1:58:48
would be shitting my pants right now. Right?
1:58:50
Because I don't have the
1:58:52
body that I had in
1:58:54
my 20s, 30s, 40s. I
1:58:57
then have an entire
1:58:59
lifetime. I've got,
1:59:02
you know, my 50s, my 60s, my 70s, my
1:59:05
80s. I mean, my grand and longer,
1:59:07
right? So it's like, I've got an
1:59:09
entire like, life lives
1:59:13
by decades to live maybe if
1:59:16
I'm lucky, if I'm as lucky
1:59:18
as her. How
1:59:20
does how does that
1:59:23
feeling that you get from that
1:59:25
that high of like, being popular
1:59:27
or being, you know, coveted
1:59:29
or being, you know, looked
1:59:33
at by all these people? How does that
1:59:35
feel for the last half of your life?
1:59:38
When you've when you've wrapped up so much
1:59:40
of your your self worth into
1:59:43
that, and you know, you and I have
1:59:45
had this conversation. It's like, who are you
1:59:48
after that? And
1:59:51
that can only last so
1:59:53
long. Because guess what? Fucking
1:59:57
aging happens and life happens
1:59:59
and it doesn't mean that it's
2:00:01
a fucking death sentence. You guys
2:00:03
hammer toes happen. Hammer toes happen.
2:00:06
Hammer toes happen. Harry rights
2:00:27
and all these things. Can you
2:00:30
imagine these young
2:00:33
people who care so much
2:00:35
about what this, you know,
2:00:37
how many likes they're
2:00:39
getting because of their body, because of
2:00:41
their, this outside surface, right? And
2:00:43
then all of a sudden you don't have it. It's like
2:00:46
this whole community has told
2:00:48
you you're only worth something
2:00:50
because of this. Right?
2:00:53
Right? So they may have
2:00:55
even started out feeling okay
2:00:57
or good about the inside of themselves,
2:01:00
but then they get to a point like
2:01:03
where they're getting so much attention
2:01:05
for the outside. And
2:01:07
then as that outside starts to
2:01:09
look different and
2:01:11
not like what society likes
2:01:14
or... That's all seems to
2:01:16
be taken into consideration. Yes. What's trendy.
2:01:18
Like you might be thriving and all
2:01:20
of a sudden they're like, we're going
2:01:22
to pivot. Right? You're like, wait, I'm
2:01:25
not going to pivot. What do I have to do?
2:01:27
What do I have to do? I look so
2:01:29
good. Like everybody likes me, but that's the
2:01:31
thing is it's like, it's just this like
2:01:33
false illusion of feeling like,
2:01:37
Oh, like, you know, I mean, I was
2:01:39
born with this, you know, really great ass
2:01:41
and this little tiny waist and all this
2:01:43
stuff. And it's like, yeah, I
2:01:45
mean, you're 20 and then
2:01:47
into your 30s. And then what happens
2:01:49
to that or what happens after you
2:01:52
have babies or you know,
2:01:54
I mean, there's so many outside
2:01:56
factors that happen. So you
2:01:58
have people that may have started out
2:02:01
being self-secure all
2:02:03
of a sudden
2:02:06
it starts going away and then who
2:02:10
are you? And you're
2:02:13
thinking like well
2:02:15
like I had I so I
2:02:17
like all these people loved me
2:02:20
and liked me and it was all based on
2:02:22
this and like I don't have that anymore. Yeah
2:02:24
dude am I? And people wonder why suicide rates
2:02:26
are where the way they are. Right. Who am
2:02:28
I? And with young kids. Yeah suicide
2:02:30
rates right now with young kids it is ridiculous.
2:02:33
Astronomical. It shouldn't it should not
2:02:35
even be a conversation. Right. So
2:02:38
and it's all you guys if you
2:02:40
have kids at home fucking do your job
2:02:42
dude. Right. And I mean and I
2:02:44
mean that and I mean it in a mean way. If
2:02:47
you got kids at home and you're like man I do got
2:02:49
kids that I'm a little bit worried about. Fucking put
2:02:51
everything else on the side and you do that job.
2:02:54
Yeah. Like you can get
2:02:56
a job. But I will say that we can get it we
2:02:58
can get a job forever we can constantly work we can always
2:03:00
figure out the money we can find a job you can work
2:03:02
at McDonald's people don't want to do that because not that cool
2:03:04
but you know what you can do it. You
2:03:07
can do that what you can't do is get
2:03:09
back any of the time that you're losing with
2:03:12
your children especially if they are so off the
2:03:14
rails they get to put where they're so alone
2:03:16
and then you no longer have them around anymore
2:03:18
that is devastating that is way that is so
2:03:21
much worse than you not being cool on Instagram.
2:03:23
You know and it's I
2:03:25
think that that whole like real that
2:03:28
topic and conversation is so real and I
2:03:30
think that people probably run from that. I
2:03:32
mean I don't like you know what to
2:03:34
talk about it per se. Like you
2:03:37
would run from it because it in some people's
2:03:39
minds it could seem so far fetch but
2:03:43
you're like I'm not dealing with that
2:03:45
like we're good here but every
2:03:47
time you hear a story every new thing
2:03:49
that comes out it's always never saw it
2:03:51
coming. Right. You know what I
2:03:53
mean? It's like if you never saw it
2:03:56
coming you
2:03:58
really must be so busy in your life life like
2:04:00
maybe you are like you know there's the
2:04:02
whole idea of like more, more,
2:04:04
do more, what else can I do? I want
2:04:06
to be successful businesswoman, I want to
2:04:09
do this. You know what? What I'm realizing at
2:04:11
34? The
2:04:13
most important job is being a mother. It is being parents
2:04:16
and if you don't want to be parents and I went
2:04:18
through a very long period of time where I don't want
2:04:20
to have kids mostly because I was married to a child.
2:04:25
I didn't you know and I didn't even
2:04:28
understand like
2:04:30
in the years that I grew up and
2:04:32
was raised and how things changed and progressed.
2:04:36
I didn't even understand the importance
2:04:39
of it. Like I
2:04:41
really didn't. No, I don't know
2:04:43
the importance because my mother because I have
2:04:47
her but I
2:04:49
never understood the importance. It's almost like the pressure
2:04:52
that was put on women as I was growing
2:04:54
up was to be in the work field. The
2:04:56
pressure was like to not be at home, don't
2:04:58
be a mom. Like if you don't go out
2:05:01
and do something, it really is this sort of
2:05:07
do more, be more and
2:05:10
it's like and go
2:05:12
out and do whatever you want and like yes, go
2:05:15
out and do whatever you want. What I'm
2:05:17
understanding is you
2:05:19
can go out and do whatever you want all
2:05:21
the time and at a certain point you're
2:05:23
gonna be tired, you're gonna need something
2:05:26
that means more. You're gonna need something
2:05:29
that is more valuable, that is
2:05:31
invalid, it is like priceless that
2:05:33
you can have that is there
2:05:35
and that comes through relationships, that's
2:05:38
friendships, that's your relationships and
2:05:40
it's like at the end of the day,
2:05:42
we're all getting older, we
2:05:44
all have shit, we all have problems
2:05:49
and I'm just at a point where
2:05:51
it's like I
2:05:54
can't, it's becoming a race
2:05:56
like remember like the invisible race of social
2:05:58
media. that everyone's
2:06:00
doing, but no one really knows like when it
2:06:02
starts or when it ends or like who's in
2:06:04
the front or who's in the back, but you,
2:06:06
everyone feels like they're always behind. That's
2:06:09
turning into not just social media, that's turning into life.
2:06:12
I mean, I feel that where
2:06:14
I'm like, uh, like I'm just doing the
2:06:16
best I can. But like at the same time too,
2:06:19
I constantly feel like I'm, I'm
2:06:21
making someone mad somewhere. I'm forgetting to
2:06:23
do something somewhere. And when
2:06:25
that is the way we live
2:06:27
and when life is going so fast all
2:06:29
the time, no
2:06:33
wonder you don't know, you don't see the
2:06:35
sign for your kids because
2:06:37
you're trying to keep up too. Cause
2:06:39
not only you're trying to keep up for yourself, now you're trying to keep
2:06:41
up for your kids. Your kids have to have
2:06:43
this. Your kids got to have this. They want this.
2:06:45
They want to do this. I don't have a lot
2:06:47
of, um, criticism for
2:06:50
parents nowadays, only because I
2:06:53
feel like, you know, there's
2:06:55
so much more that's happening
2:06:58
that they have no control
2:07:00
over. No control. But I
2:07:02
think the only thing that you can control
2:07:04
is spending
2:07:06
more time with your kids. Well, no, I
2:07:08
agree with you. I agree with you. And
2:07:10
I do think that there are more outside
2:07:13
instances or things that are happening
2:07:15
that I did not have to
2:07:17
deal with at the time. Right. So
2:07:20
it's like 100% Yeah. It'd
2:07:22
be really easy for me to be like, just
2:07:24
do this and do this. It's like my older,
2:07:26
my older three, they had
2:07:28
my face and you know,
2:07:31
we still were a pretty strict family. Like
2:07:33
they had to hang their phones up in
2:07:35
the laundry room by like nine o'clock on
2:07:37
weeknights and I think that sounds like a
2:07:39
pretty good plan. And
2:07:42
it was, um, you know, the,
2:07:44
the computer was in a main area to like
2:07:46
where they had access. So
2:07:49
Ruby's generation, a lot different, was
2:07:51
like the first generation that had
2:07:53
the access to
2:07:56
internet on their phone from like a young
2:07:59
age, from like fifth grade. Right.
2:08:03
She didn't have a phone in fifth grade,
2:08:05
but all like a lot of her friends
2:08:07
did. And then there was like this pressure
2:08:09
as a parent, because now kids are
2:08:11
not connecting by calling each other or sending
2:08:14
invitations to school. Well, and her phones were
2:08:16
different or different for when she got phones.
2:08:18
Like when I got my first phone, right?
2:08:21
It was a rate of a flip on,
2:08:23
you know, like, it wasn't connected. Yeah, no. And now it's like, so,
2:08:30
so it's like, it's interesting because like,
2:08:33
my sister, her 12 year old
2:08:35
Echo, he,
2:08:38
you know, and what's really good now is
2:08:40
that they have a lot of parental
2:08:43
controls for phones. So like, you can
2:08:45
like, you can figure out like how
2:08:47
much time they have. All
2:08:49
my, all my nieces and nephews have had
2:08:52
gab watches. And then at a certain
2:08:54
age, then they get, they get graduated to a phone.
2:08:57
But like the gab watch is pretty cool because you can control
2:09:00
who they can contact and you can
2:09:02
contact them. Right. You can like, you
2:09:04
can block their social media, all of
2:09:06
that. But it's
2:09:08
interesting because she was saying she
2:09:11
was like, you know, we've always
2:09:13
been like such a stickler about
2:09:15
like FaceTime or social
2:09:17
media and all these things. But
2:09:21
now he's being left out of things
2:09:24
because that's how they
2:09:26
all get together. So then you have
2:09:28
a child that's being like ostracized. So,
2:09:31
so I do, I do feel for
2:09:33
people who have kids in
2:09:36
this digital age, right? Even
2:09:39
in that, like, I, I do still
2:09:41
have to be a vigilant parent. That's
2:09:43
all I think, like, because there's so
2:09:45
much, like, there's so much that's
2:09:47
happening that you're like, and some parents depend
2:09:49
where you live, you're dealing with more of
2:09:51
it at a time or whatever different
2:09:54
ages. But I do feel
2:09:56
like the best place to start. is
2:10:01
if nothing is make
2:10:05
it a like and
2:10:08
play with them. Yeah you know because
2:10:11
after phone there's like the whole like
2:10:13
conversation and not even conversation the reality
2:10:15
of like how our school system was created and why
2:10:17
it was created and what it really has meant for
2:10:20
and it's 12 years and really parents don't raise their
2:10:22
kids anymore your teachers do your kids do at school
2:10:24
I mean there's so many hours in the day that
2:10:26
you don't get to influence them with what you want
2:10:28
to do say it is
2:10:30
out of your hands you
2:10:32
know and that's the reality that that is the
2:10:34
truth and then life in
2:10:36
school is very different from when I was in
2:10:38
elementary school middle school high school same for you
2:10:40
same for Devin it's different and I feel like
2:10:42
the one of the best things anyone can do
2:10:44
because you can't you're not going to be able
2:10:47
to shut you can't stop the world from being
2:10:49
what it is like all
2:10:51
you can do is try and play defense but I think the
2:10:53
best thing you can do is if you're a good parent good
2:10:56
person not parent like a good person and we
2:10:59
all make mistakes and we all learn from our
2:11:01
mistakes and that's normal and that's fine but if you
2:11:03
in a nutshell are
2:11:05
trying to do good and
2:11:09
and be good and like be a good influence
2:11:11
for your children you know I'm an aunt's like my niece is
2:11:13
a nephew I'm not going to get it right all the time
2:11:15
but I'm just starting with like I just want I'm going to
2:11:17
spend more time with you you
2:11:20
know it's really just let's
2:11:22
just do more together and if you're in a family where you got a
2:11:24
bunch of kids that are on their next screen
2:11:26
time all the time and maybe they're like uninterested
2:11:28
now they don't want to go have an they
2:11:30
don't want to have an imagination they don't have
2:11:33
to like try so hard to create something exciting
2:11:35
they just want it to be there they just want to have it
2:11:38
they just want to go to their friend's house they just want to
2:11:40
do whatever it's like oh
2:11:43
man again
2:11:45
like I would not know how to combat that
2:11:47
I mean I'm playing I'm trying to figure it
2:11:50
out with mazes and nephews trying to like redirect
2:11:52
their attention like create what's something that I can
2:11:54
say let's go do this and set right
2:11:57
and like make it exciting and we'll do it together And
2:12:01
I do that and my sisters and all my
2:12:03
niece and nephews play a bunch of sports and
2:12:05
like I am an advocate advocate for that. Like
2:12:07
if you have kids that are in some sort
2:12:09
of extracurricular activity it gets them socialized and it
2:12:11
keeps them active and it teaches them like
2:12:14
you know like reward for like putting in
2:12:16
work and practicing and exercising and all these
2:12:18
things but not everyone has that opportunity
2:12:21
whether it's because you can't financially and you
2:12:23
can't do that and it is expensive and
2:12:25
how many kids do you have? Like there's
2:12:27
so many nuances that go into it, but
2:12:29
you like we
2:12:31
can spend you can spend time with them Like
2:12:34
it just make that make that a thing and it's like maybe you
2:12:36
don't have a lot of time But maybe you start you
2:12:39
take them to the park, but they're little it's like well, we're gonna go to the
2:12:41
park I'm gonna walk you
2:12:43
around. I'm gonna push you on the swing. We're gonna have
2:12:45
conversation I think
2:12:47
that is the best thing that we can do at
2:12:49
least a really great place to start like Build
2:12:52
that like strengthen your relationship with in your
2:12:54
family with your kids and your partners and
2:12:56
your siblings or whatever it is You
2:12:59
can strength than that That
2:13:01
becomes almost like like this is my
2:13:03
safe place for kids and right you
2:13:05
need yours and adults I think I
2:13:08
think you know and it really the only pitfall
2:13:10
of that or not pitfall but like I think
2:13:12
the only hard thing with that would be like
2:13:15
You know like my sister works full-time
2:13:17
runs like 11 stores, right? Oh,
2:13:21
no her husband worries. So so it's funny
2:13:23
because it's like she's constantly I mean, I
2:13:25
feel like there's a lot of people out
2:13:27
there that don't have like maybe this this
2:13:32
Like like a lot of time Right.
2:13:35
Yeah, but yeah, but Michaela spends a
2:13:37
lot of time. They do see no And
2:13:40
they do and I'm not telling you that's how I
2:13:42
would say you would balance it out. That's why I
2:13:44
think Let's go. You know, yep, the
2:13:46
very vigilant parent But
2:13:49
it was like echo had a couple days off and
2:13:53
He came to the store and she was like,
2:13:55
okay Well, you know you you
2:13:57
only have like this much screen time, which is like an
2:13:59
hour or something. Now you have to go
2:14:01
ride your bike, do something physical.
2:14:03
But then you have some kids that aren't
2:14:05
like group, like you said, I think sports
2:14:08
is the best thing to get your kids
2:14:10
in. But what if you have a kid
2:14:12
that doesn't want to be in sports? You
2:14:15
know, that's true. Echo, Echo one
2:14:18
is a pretty nice girls volleyball.
2:14:20
I want
2:14:22
to play girls volleyball. You know, you can just
2:14:24
play volleyball. Yeah. But most
2:14:26
of his friends are girls. So he was like, No,
2:14:29
I want to play girls volleyball. And she was like,
2:14:31
I don't think it's gonna work. You know, so it's
2:14:34
like, you're like, we could just we could just get friends
2:14:36
together and go to the park and we could play volleyball.
2:14:40
So she's constantly having to deal with
2:14:43
this. And I'm looking at her and then I'm
2:14:45
looking at like my grandchild, like I'm looking at
2:14:47
Finn, and I'm going, Oh my god, like, I
2:14:50
can't even imagine what she's gonna have to
2:14:52
like what her parents are gonna have to
2:14:54
deal with. Because like, even when I have
2:14:57
her like once a week, you
2:14:59
know, Joey's like, Well, I read
2:15:01
that, you know, parents shouldn't be
2:15:04
on their phone. So I try not
2:15:06
to be on my phone at all
2:15:08
when I'm with her. But I think
2:15:10
that is a thing I've read that too.
2:15:12
Like you don't around an infant, do
2:15:14
not do not be on your phone. Be on.
2:15:17
So right. And so I'm
2:15:19
not on my phone. But like every once
2:15:21
in a while, I'll get a text and I'll just like pick
2:15:23
it up. And she just goes, Oh, yeah,
2:15:26
it's like the most bizarre thing like she
2:15:28
is just like, completely
2:15:31
obsessed with knowing
2:15:33
what I'm doing on my phone. And
2:15:36
she's eight months. And
2:15:38
I'm like, Oh my god. And then I do this. I
2:15:40
just like put it behind me. They're like, What was
2:15:43
that? been? We're
2:15:46
gonna throw that away. But yeah,
2:15:48
it's so
2:15:53
you're right. You're right. Parents need to be
2:15:55
more vigilant and less. I hate
2:15:57
to like for lack of a better word, like lazy.
2:16:00
Well, and it's not even
2:16:02
in a mean way. Like I know you've been saying lazy,
2:16:04
like that could sound like some people can might take here
2:16:07
that I just said for lack of a better word. But
2:16:10
honestly, though, but kind of if you are
2:16:12
a listener, that you're like, that
2:16:14
may be offended you. Maybe
2:16:17
take a hard look at yourself. Maybe.
2:16:19
Yeah. And again, like, I
2:16:24
am this is I think
2:16:26
what most people everyone needs to do way
2:16:28
more of is just let's
2:16:31
just choose not to be offended. Like
2:16:34
it's normal. Like I've had these conversations with
2:16:36
kids, like trying to explain to
2:16:38
my nephew, like none
2:16:41
of us knew how to ride a bike. Jack. Right.
2:16:44
It was hard for it was hard for me. It's
2:16:47
hard. It's not easy.
2:16:49
But no one knows how to ride a bike.
2:16:51
You learn how to ride a bike. And then
2:16:53
once you learn it, you got that skill forever.
2:16:56
Right. And it's like, but you've got kids.
2:17:00
And that's a normal thing. But like to tie it into
2:17:02
like this day and age when something it can be so
2:17:04
easy to be entertained. And
2:17:06
there's it's just so much better to like just
2:17:08
be on YouTube or like, we don't
2:17:11
play a game. Well
2:17:14
when we at a young age, the more we
2:17:16
allow them to do that. And maybe for some
2:17:18
people, it's because you're way busy and
2:17:20
you're a single parent and looks like you know, I
2:17:22
can I can get my baby to just calm down
2:17:24
so I can finish what I'm doing and
2:17:26
not cry and not throw a freaking bet because if they
2:17:29
throw one more family thrown through the window, right.
2:17:32
So you let them watch the thing. And
2:17:35
I get that because I'm not a parent, but I'm around
2:17:37
a lot of kids of all ages all the time in
2:17:39
this family. And they and they they
2:17:41
love watching movies and they want to watch YouTube. They want
2:17:43
to watch the singing thing. And Drew
2:17:46
wants to watch track Ted, you know. And
2:17:50
I see as like
2:17:52
an observer of like how difficult it is
2:17:54
on like to be
2:17:57
in that situation as a parent because it is now we
2:17:59
come back to like anger. anxiety and stress and how
2:18:01
we all have so much shit all the time and
2:18:03
there's always going to be more. There's always going to
2:18:05
be more things that you've got to figure out a
2:18:07
way to get through it or to solve the problem
2:18:10
and that's just life, you
2:18:12
know, and it kind of sucks but
2:18:14
it also is great. It gives you plenty of opportunities
2:18:17
to be
2:18:19
better, to do better, to excel, to
2:18:21
learn from your mistakes, to be
2:18:24
successful. It's trial and error
2:18:26
constantly for everything but
2:18:31
if you care, which we all
2:18:33
do, if you really care about the
2:18:36
stuff that is really important, brain
2:18:38
development, you know, their thinking
2:18:41
processes, their emotional intelligence, how are we
2:18:43
setting them up to like be a
2:18:45
citizen in
2:18:47
society and how they will treat people
2:18:49
and respond to people. What
2:18:51
I've never really thought about because I've never had kids
2:18:54
and I've just been growing up in my life too,
2:18:56
right? I've just been growing up and now understanding like
2:18:58
the importance of listening to Jordan Peterson, he was talking
2:19:00
about like a certain age kids are supposed to be
2:19:02
able to like it was
2:19:04
like by age six. He
2:19:08
was age six. A lot
2:19:10
of attention for a parent is
2:19:12
to like start
2:19:15
helping them become someone who can handle
2:19:18
hard things, right?
2:19:20
Who can like fail at a game and
2:19:22
be and like it sucks but like be okay with it
2:19:25
and like go back and play again versus like fail at
2:19:27
a game. Like I remember Mimi, she's a
2:19:30
senior in high school this year so when she was little and
2:19:34
she always had this mindset like when she
2:19:37
couldn't do something skiing, right?
2:19:39
Like riding a bike
2:19:42
but like going to the lake or snowboarding or anything
2:19:45
physical that maybe is you
2:19:47
wouldn't just have the skill. You
2:19:50
have to learn it just like children learn
2:19:52
to walk, right? We learn everything we do.
2:19:54
You didn't have anything. You came into the
2:19:56
world with nothing and then you learn how
2:19:58
to do things and it's like I think we've forget,
2:20:00
especially as we get older,
2:20:02
that that's like, we forget
2:20:04
that that's the reality. And
2:20:07
so we're living in a time
2:20:09
where people think if they can't, if they
2:20:11
don't get it right, or they don't shine, or they're not
2:20:13
the best, the first time they do it, they're like, never
2:20:16
doing it again. Right. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna
2:20:18
do it. Right. And
2:20:20
well, that's not how anyone who is successful
2:20:22
what they do. That's not how they got
2:20:24
there. Right. It's like, that's not how Serena
2:20:26
Williams became the tennis player that she is.
2:20:28
Right. And I think that the
2:20:33
only thing you can do, or at least start
2:20:35
out as a parent is like, just
2:20:38
putting, if you don't have a
2:20:40
ton of time to give extra time away
2:20:42
to try and spend time, then to start
2:20:44
smaller. Right. Maybe it's taking a
2:20:46
day a week. Maybe it's taking two days a week.
2:20:49
You know, maybe it's like, and maybe it's one day a week where
2:20:51
it's like, it's family day, and you go and do an activity with
2:20:53
your kids. Right. You know, not
2:20:55
everyone, especially nowadays, you can't, you
2:20:58
can't put all your time in. Because now,
2:21:01
most people, everyone works, both
2:21:04
parents work, or they're single
2:21:06
parents, or they're,
2:21:09
you know, a broken home where
2:21:11
like, so, I
2:21:14
don't know, there's just, there's so many things
2:21:16
that people deal with and live, live in
2:21:18
and experience in life. So,
2:21:20
where instead of making
2:21:24
excuses for why you can't do it,
2:21:26
because I understand we all have excuses,
2:21:28
and they're not fake, they're real. Right.
2:21:31
Like, they're real excuses.
2:21:34
Like, I see my sisters with their kids running them.
2:21:36
I'm just like, I run around and I'm
2:21:38
doing, I come home and I'm taking the kids here. I'm going to
2:21:40
the park. We're going on a walk. I'm going here.
2:21:42
I'm gonna go to the horses. I'm doing these things, and
2:21:44
I get exhausted. And I think to
2:21:46
myself, like, about my siblings that have kids and they're
2:21:48
running, and they're taking them, they're going to
2:21:50
school, and they're playing sports, and they're showing up and helping
2:21:53
my aunt, and they're showing up and helping my other sister,
2:21:55
and we're all showing up and helping each other. And I
2:21:57
think, wow. Like
2:22:00
I'm exhausted in my life
2:22:02
and I'm trying and I'm really trying to put
2:22:05
an effort into like being of
2:22:07
service you know, I
2:22:09
like to serve in a way to only
2:22:11
it helps me in my self-esteem
2:22:14
but like to You
2:22:18
know not be selfish like be selfless and
2:22:20
like and try and help and play the
2:22:22
role and I look at my siblings Sometimes
2:22:24
I'm like man God
2:22:27
say well, it's like this is hard like it's
2:22:30
hard. I think I think the best Sorry,
2:22:33
I was gonna say that Life
2:22:36
is hard. Yeah, and it's hard for
2:22:39
everybody and even if you think that it's someone has
2:22:41
it easy They don't they just have different problems. We
2:22:44
all have We do
2:22:46
and you know, it's just like don't make
2:22:48
excuses get rid of the victim mindset Don't
2:22:50
make excuses and like sometimes we do and that's fine.
2:22:53
It's like you're gonna be perfect every day but
2:22:55
the the fact the the
2:22:58
better you can be and the better I can be about just
2:23:00
instead of allowing my excuses and to
2:23:02
like sit in that I May
2:23:04
have a really hard time and my day
2:23:07
may be fucked up and it
2:23:09
may be really impossible for me to do xyz
2:23:12
But I can sit and I can talk about how like my
2:23:15
life's hard I couldn't do it because of this and
2:23:17
this and this and that's the reality but
2:23:19
what it does to your brain How
2:23:22
you think when we allow ourselves to always
2:23:24
speak from a victim mindset or from a
2:23:26
whoa is me or my life is hard
2:23:28
situation That
2:23:31
won't change you or that will change
2:23:33
you basically Yeah, it doesn't mean that
2:23:35
those things aren't real But the
2:23:37
way that we talk about it the way that we adapt
2:23:39
or we try and fix the situation If we
2:23:42
allow ourselves to always be someone who almost
2:23:44
needs to be served Because
2:23:46
like I can't do it like I'm
2:23:49
doing everything and I do this
2:23:51
and this and this and I can't do that because of This this
2:23:53
this this this it's like well the end of the day if it
2:23:55
comes to your kids They still have
2:23:57
to have food in their mouth have
2:24:00
clean clothes. We still
2:24:02
have to do things and it doesn't matter how hard
2:24:04
it is and it sucks. And
2:24:07
it's exhausting but it is hard and I'm
2:24:09
not saying like your excuses because the
2:24:12
excuses are real. I'm not saying like, oh your excuses.
2:24:14
No, for sure. They're real. No,
2:24:17
but I want to, we got to find a way to
2:24:19
work through them or work around them.
2:24:21
We're going
2:24:24
to work around those excuses guys. Everybody. We're
2:24:26
not going to solve them but we're going
2:24:29
to find a workaround. We're going to
2:24:31
work around them. No, I'm going to tell you like
2:24:33
the best advice I ever got was
2:24:36
someone told me that
2:24:40
the best way like,
2:24:42
sorry, not the best
2:24:44
way, but like the most important thing that you
2:24:46
could do is remember
2:24:48
that your children are only children for
2:24:50
a very small amount of time. They're
2:24:53
adults for a very long time
2:24:55
compared to their childhood, right? And
2:24:58
our job as parents is
2:25:00
to make sure that they can live without us. They
2:25:03
can live and they can thrive without us.
2:25:06
So when you have them for this very
2:25:08
short time, we can't baby
2:25:10
them. I mean, we can
2:25:12
love them and we can, you know, be
2:25:14
nurturing and all those things. But the point
2:25:17
is, is that we can't shelter them from
2:25:20
ever living an actual life
2:25:23
because our job is to prepare
2:25:25
them because when they
2:25:27
leave, you know, I mean
2:25:29
some of them at 18, some of them at 20
2:25:31
something, it depends. It depends on what the age
2:25:33
is. The point is, is that
2:25:36
when we, when we put them out to
2:25:38
the world, we want them to have obviously
2:25:40
like, like you
2:25:42
said, emotional integrity, intelligence.
2:25:45
We want them to have integrity.
2:25:48
Sorry, my wine's gotten to me.
2:25:51
But we want them to have, you
2:25:53
know, integrity and be
2:25:55
good people. You want to be confident as a
2:25:57
parent that you're like, I can do that. going
2:26:00
to be okay. And now we're here and out there
2:26:02
and they know how to
2:26:04
like survive and they and we're still
2:26:06
here. But that's the problem is
2:26:08
I think that we've we've pushed
2:26:11
to like this this
2:26:13
time where we think
2:26:15
that oh I just
2:26:18
have to baby my child baby my child
2:26:20
baby them baby them and a lot of
2:26:22
that is like learning about dealing with people
2:26:24
that don't like them dealing with you know
2:26:28
you know they have to do things they
2:26:30
don't like. Well any kind of
2:26:32
adversity right you know right
2:26:34
well I'm going to throw them into
2:26:37
a job and then be like oh
2:26:39
my boss was mean to me it's
2:26:41
like oh you're
2:26:44
like well what did you do?
2:26:46
It was a hard day. Yeah.
2:26:48
I've been having like mental health
2:26:50
problems. Right and now you've
2:26:52
created a child who can't
2:26:54
actually thrive or be okay
2:26:57
in their adulthood and now
2:27:00
I mean where else are they going to go? Your
2:27:02
house. Yeah right. For the
2:27:04
rest of their life. Yeah that
2:27:06
feels good when they first leave because you're like I
2:27:08
don't want my baby to leave. And then all of
2:27:11
a sudden like three years later like why won't my
2:27:13
baby leave? Yeah. I
2:27:15
heard something
2:27:18
way over. I know this is the longest we've
2:27:20
ever done or like it's the final one. I
2:27:22
know. Just like
2:27:24
what you said I actually I heard something very very similar
2:27:26
it's the exact same thing but they said if
2:27:29
you look at your like your time
2:27:31
with your children and I think that
2:27:33
this would really apply well to like nowadays especially
2:27:35
if you're like a younger parent because
2:27:38
it's so cool to be cool you know what
2:27:40
I mean? To where even as a parent like
2:27:43
I see people that have
2:27:46
kids and they're so cute and there's
2:27:48
someone very specific I'm thinking about
2:27:50
and I didn't even know this
2:27:52
about this person until I heard about
2:27:54
it. It's like on social media the
2:27:57
most adorable mother daughter like do
2:28:01
everything so cute all their like
2:28:03
fashionista posts but in real
2:28:05
life doesn't
2:28:08
really spend much time parenting mm-hmm
2:28:11
you know because it's almost like now
2:28:13
it's like this just is an
2:28:15
opportunity like you obviously love your baby right
2:28:18
but it's just what I mean my daughter is
2:28:20
and what and what the fuck is that doing
2:28:22
to her as you know what else I'll help
2:28:24
do my kids on your social media you know
2:28:26
and I never thought that would be a there
2:28:29
would be a day that would be a thing
2:28:31
but now is the day where I'm like like I'm
2:28:35
actually gonna save this next comment for when we're hanging up
2:28:37
because it will take us on a whole new tangent but
2:28:41
yes it's like you know I feel
2:28:45
like for a very long time
2:28:49
the idea of being because we're women the idea of
2:28:51
like being a mom it was
2:28:55
like that was like the lazy job like
2:28:58
that was like the it
2:29:02
wasn't cool you know it was so
2:29:05
much cooler to like be out in workforce like being like the
2:29:07
head of a business or like going out and doing all these
2:29:09
things and now we're coming face-to-face with
2:29:11
the reality of like our kids are in
2:29:13
trouble uh-huh where
2:29:16
does that come from it didn't
2:29:18
just happen right like
2:29:20
the emphasis on the importance of like the family or
2:29:22
the pig being a dad or being a good dad
2:29:24
or like being a good mom
2:29:28
it's not a lost art I don't know but
2:29:30
like it's
2:29:32
my will it's not it's not celebrated in
2:29:34
like in mainstream and everyone right now we're
2:29:36
so tied to like what's trendy you know
2:29:38
and so everyone we're in this rat race
2:29:40
of like like the whole conversation of like
2:29:42
fast fashion not only is it so terrible
2:29:44
for the environment which I never really knew
2:29:47
but it's more constantly we're just for
2:29:49
consumers right we just got just a bunch of people who
2:29:51
are just consumers and we just want more we want to
2:29:54
we want to be cool we want to look cool we
2:29:56
want to fit in but what's what's so bad about trying
2:29:58
to fit in all the time is like everything
2:30:00
changes so rapidly, you can't. Like
2:30:04
who has the time to have a job
2:30:06
to pay your bills and
2:30:09
if you have kids, like support your family, but
2:30:11
also stay up to date on what's cool.
2:30:13
Like, I don't
2:30:16
have, again, I'm not married, I don't have kids and I
2:30:18
have a hard time, like I can't keep up with what's
2:30:20
cool. Like clothes
2:30:22
or like the new way to do
2:30:24
your reels or like how to
2:30:26
have the new algorithm, like figure it all out.
2:30:29
I think the best thing to do is more so
2:30:32
everyone just to realize like, honestly,
2:30:34
just it
2:30:37
doesn't really matter what you're wearing, it doesn't
2:30:39
matter your hairstyle, it doesn't
2:30:41
matter what shoes you have on. If
2:30:43
you're a shit person, it doesn't
2:30:45
matter what you're wearing. Like
2:30:49
it's so much more valuable to just be
2:30:51
someone that has some substance
2:30:53
in your mind so you can hold a conversation,
2:30:56
someone who is caring and not
2:30:58
from a selfish point of view or selfish place,
2:31:00
whether they realize it or not, the people that
2:31:03
are like, let me show you how good I
2:31:05
am, let me prove to the world and all
2:31:07
my followers that I'm a giver, just
2:31:10
give. Yeah. Because
2:31:13
if you just give, that exudes, right? Like your
2:31:16
people know that about you. Yeah.
2:31:18
You don't have to tell them, you don't have to
2:31:21
tell them, it's just who you are. You
2:31:23
should never have to tell somebody how good a
2:31:26
person you are because they should already know it.
2:31:28
Like who likes a car salesman, right? Like if you
2:31:31
have to sell yourself to me, I already
2:31:33
know I got to go to a different place. Yeah.
2:31:35
It's like when I was trying to get, when I was dealing
2:31:37
with my shoulders after my spine surgery and
2:31:40
had my MRI and I've got people
2:31:42
telling me, you got to do this, you got to do this, you
2:31:44
got to do this. And the guy
2:31:46
I went to just got my MRI read and
2:31:48
then he was someone I was discussing about like
2:31:50
stem cell stuff. As he's
2:31:52
telling me, because he did stem cell in
2:31:54
California, but as he's talking
2:31:56
to me about it, he's already selling me on him
2:31:59
as a surgeon too. It's
2:32:01
like, whoa. Yeah. If
2:32:03
you are so about yourself
2:32:05
in stem cell therapy, but
2:32:08
you already are trying to sell me on your
2:32:10
ability to do my surgery as well. Wrong
2:32:12
place. Like if you have to sell me, if
2:32:15
you have to sell me on what you do
2:32:17
when I'm already coming to you because I
2:32:19
need help, like you're a doctor, right?
2:32:21
You're selling me on yourself. No.
2:32:24
Yeah. You're not the person that's like, you
2:32:29
don't have to sell me shit. The proof is
2:32:31
in the pudding. What have you done for other
2:32:33
people? Right. Right. It's
2:32:38
like selling yourself. You know what though? Okay,
2:32:40
go pee. I have to
2:32:42
too. Well, I think we're
2:32:44
gonna, yeah, we're gonna, uh, it's,
2:32:47
I'm an hour ahead of you. So it's coming on 10 PM and
2:32:49
I haven't showered yet. So I got it. I do
2:32:52
have to go. All right. Anyway. Okay.
2:32:55
So I'm going to go pee and
2:32:57
I was just telling Gina that, um, we've been
2:32:59
on here an hour and a half longer than we ever
2:33:01
do. I think we've done some like good hour and a half
2:33:04
podcast before. We have. This is
2:33:06
like more like two hours. Two. I
2:33:10
have, I'm the one that's
2:33:12
ending this podcast because I'm
2:33:14
40. And
2:33:17
I haven't showered. You guys, I mean, you see me
2:33:19
if you're watching this video. All
2:33:23
right. And I have to eat
2:33:25
to conclude this podcast.
2:33:28
We are so appreciative of all of
2:33:30
you. And
2:33:32
I just want to, uh, profess my
2:33:35
undying love to my friend, Brooke, and
2:33:37
also profess my
2:33:41
undying love to Devin. And
2:33:44
um, without, without
2:33:47
you, without you, just would have never
2:33:49
been made Paul. That's not,
2:33:51
that's not, I mean, obviously. I
2:33:55
am like the, you know, the fucking people
2:33:57
messaged me all the time. They're like, when's Gina?
2:34:01
And I'm like, well, we
2:34:03
are, we are now
2:34:06
and I am a grandma now, but I'm like,
2:34:08
and it's like, yes, no, we're
2:34:11
best friends. And yes, we will, we will
2:34:13
be in the same place at the same
2:34:15
time at some point, at some point we're
2:34:17
just now, you know, she's
2:34:19
a grandma. So she doesn't, now she's got a
2:34:21
baby and she's just loving
2:34:23
on her and being in her life
2:34:26
and doing all that. And she's just
2:34:28
amazing. And life is busy. Like
2:34:31
Christmas is coming. What's Christmas? I
2:34:33
know. I know. I mean, you guys listen to
2:34:35
this. Christmas will be over. But we're recording it right before
2:34:37
Christmas. And so Happy
2:34:40
New Year. Happy New Year.
2:34:43
Well, I will say that I will
2:34:46
profess my undying love to the both of these
2:34:48
women. And doing
2:34:51
this podcast has been way
2:34:54
crazy and super exciting. And we've
2:34:57
laughed a ton and it's been so fun.
2:34:59
And obviously we would not be doing this
2:35:01
if it weren't for everyone listening to this. We've
2:35:06
literally taken it one day at a time since the day we started
2:35:08
because we didn't know people. It
2:35:11
may be something that we can offer. You
2:35:13
know, people may enjoy listening to us
2:35:16
talk and laugh and tell
2:35:19
really embarrassing stories and
2:35:22
ridiculous stories. Or
2:35:24
you may be like, it's not for us. And
2:35:27
here we are five years later. So thank
2:35:31
you. Because we would not
2:35:33
have done this. Wouldn't have had the opportunity to
2:35:35
if it weren't for everyone that
2:35:37
has been, I guess, on
2:35:40
our support team this whole way. Yeah,
2:35:43
we love you. Yeah, yeah. We
2:35:45
do. We love you
2:35:47
guys. We do. Dad, you want something to say? We
2:35:50
may be back. You never know.
2:35:52
It's not true. It's the genius. Sit
2:35:54
out there. that
2:36:00
dude everyone's not everyone do it
2:36:02
everyone's not every once in
2:36:05
a while we just get on zoom and then we
2:36:07
do and then we just take the video
2:36:09
and we just put it
2:36:12
on my YouTube channel podcast that now
2:36:14
it's just only in the video okay
2:36:16
video audio like no pressure no pressure
2:36:18
now we're just like hey don't be
2:36:20
sad like you
2:36:23
never know all
2:36:26
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2:36:45
you know happy 2024
2:36:47
happy 2020 2024 we're gonna get outside yeah
2:36:49
you know we're gonna
2:36:56
enjoy simple things with
2:36:58
our friends and family and and
2:37:01
we're gonna survive and if we do
2:37:03
it together and we laugh and we
2:37:06
do fun things then we will thrive
2:37:08
even and everything's crumbling around us and
2:37:11
hopefully get rid of my fungeeto
2:37:14
yeah and hopefully my big toe
2:37:16
nail will actually grow back and
2:37:18
stay attached versus like growing
2:37:20
back of being like psyches and
2:37:24
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