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Teagan Lane's entire existence was
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kept a secret . No
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one knew she had even been born
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until three years later when
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a social worker accidentally stumbled
0:11
across her birth records . Her
0:14
mother , kelly , had kept her entire
0:16
nine month pregnancy and birth with
0:19
Teagan hidden from her boyfriend
0:21
, teammates , friends and
0:24
even her parents , who she'd been living with
0:26
at the time . The
0:28
last confirmed sighting of Teagan was
0:31
on the 14th of September 1996
0:34
, when she was just two days old
0:36
. Hospital staff released
0:38
her into the care of her mother and
0:41
she's never been seen since . This
0:54
episode contains content related
0:56
to infant homicide and is not
0:58
suitable for children . Today
1:01
I'm covering the missing person's case
1:03
of Teagan Lane , last
1:05
seen with her mother leaving Auburn Hospital in
1:08
Sydney , new South Wales . According
1:12
to Kelly , the day they were both released from
1:14
hospital , she walked with Teagan in
1:17
her arms to the lobby where
1:19
she handed the baby over to Teagan's biological
1:21
father . With him
1:24
was his mother and his then de facto girlfriend
1:26
, who had
1:28
all agreed , according to Kelly , that
1:31
they were going to take sole responsibility and
1:33
care for Teagan . The
1:36
police , however , did not believe
1:38
this version of events and
1:41
brought a case for murder against
1:43
Kelly Lane . Despite
1:45
searching for Teagan , looking for her
1:47
remains and attempting
1:50
to locate her father . Nothing has
1:52
come to light . Not
1:55
Teagan , living under a different name . Not
1:58
Teagan's remains and
2:00
not Teagan's father . So
2:03
, 27 years on , where
2:06
on earth could she be ? I'm
2:10
Carla Morgan and this is Bolo , a podcast
2:12
covering cold and active missing
2:14
persons cases with
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the aim of helping families bring
2:20
their loved ones home . Kelly
2:27
Lane lived in Manly on the northern beaches
2:29
in Sydney . We've talked about the northern
2:31
beaches a few times in this podcast so far
2:34
. It's known as the Inchila
2:36
Peninsula and
2:38
it does hold some dark secrets . So
2:43
Kelly Lane played competitive water polo throughout
2:46
her teens and later went on to become a
2:50
sports teacher at a local private girls' school . Her father was
2:52
a senior police detective at
2:55
the Manly police station and her mother
2:57
, who was a former hospital worker
2:59
, was
3:02
also the manager of Kelly's water polo team . They were
3:04
protective parents
3:06
, well respected and heavily involved in
3:08
the case and heavily involved in
3:10
the community . They were also
3:13
strict and had very high
3:15
expectations of Kelly . She
3:18
was living with her parents when she became
3:20
pregnant . She didn't tell a
3:22
soul , even though
3:24
there were whispers that she was pregnant
3:27
from her water polo teammates . Kelly
3:30
would wear a towel to the side of the pool and
3:32
slip in unnoticed . Also
3:34
, she thought In 1995
3:37
, at nine months pregnant
3:39
, kelly played in the New South
3:41
Wales grand final for water polo
3:44
. And can I just
3:46
say , after being
3:48
nine months pregnant three times
3:50
over I could not imagine
3:52
doing much , let alone
3:54
jumping into a pool and playing the
3:57
physically strenuous and rough 30-minute
3:59
game of water polo . So
4:02
after the game the team went to the pub
4:05
to celebrate and at around 10pm
4:07
they all noticed Kelly had left
4:09
Unbeknownst
4:11
to them . She'd gone into labour
4:14
and admitted herself to hospital
4:16
. Kelly was 19
4:18
, and in secret , with
4:20
no support , she gave birth to
4:22
her first child . She
4:25
told hospital staff she'd received
4:27
prenatal care in Perth and
4:29
she gave a false address saying
4:32
she'd only been in Sydney for three weeks
4:34
. With the help of an agency
4:36
she put this child up for adoption
4:39
. You might have been thinking
4:41
this child was Teagan . It
4:44
was not . Teagan was Kelly's
4:46
second child , who was born in 1996
4:49
when Kelly was 21 . This
4:53
was another secret pregnancy . She
4:55
told no friends or family
4:58
and , as you know already
5:00
from the beginning of the episode , teagan
5:02
was released into Kelly's care and
5:04
, according to Kelly , was given
5:06
to her biological father to raise . Teagan
5:10
wouldn't be the last secret child
5:13
, as when Kelly was 24
5:15
, in 1999 , she
5:18
gave birth again , and this child
5:20
was also given up for adoption
5:22
like the first . Her
5:25
parents had no idea that
5:27
she had given birth to three
5:29
children in complete secrecy
5:31
over a five-year period . It
5:35
seems so unfathomable
5:37
that no adult that was
5:39
close to her suspected anything
5:41
through three pregnancies , especially
5:45
being a water polo player who was training
5:47
multiple times a week in swimming
5:49
togs . Also , water
5:51
polo is a very rough sport . You
5:54
get kicked , scratched , pulled
5:57
out and your togs almost ripped off . It's
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a real contact sport and it can be dangerous
6:02
, especially so when pregnant . As
6:05
I mentioned already , her teammates
6:07
suspected that Kelly was pregnant and could
6:09
see that she was hiding it by covering herself
6:11
in a towel when out of the water and
6:13
by wearing baggy clothes , but
6:16
for whatever reason , her behaviour
6:18
didn't raise any suspicion amongst
6:21
any of the adults around her . Some
6:24
people were talking about it , yes
6:26
, but no one said anything or
6:28
did anything , which is kind
6:30
of indicative of the time as well . On
6:33
the day Teagan was last seen , she was
6:36
given a clean bill of health and discharged
6:38
with her mother at around 2pm
6:41
, but reports do vary
6:43
on the time , and it could have been as early as
6:45
12pm . Kelly's
6:48
whereabouts were then unknown up
6:50
until the time she arrived at her parents' house
6:52
to get dressed and ready for a friend's
6:54
wedding . She then
6:56
attended the wedding , which started around
6:58
4pm . She was wearing
7:00
a full white pantsuit , which
7:03
seems an incredulous
7:05
choice for a woman who has just given birth
7:08
, and she can be seen in footage
7:10
smiling and enjoying herself
7:12
. No one would
7:14
suspect she had just had a baby and
7:17
given the child up , nor
7:19
would they believe she had done the unthinkable
7:21
to that baby . Whatever
7:24
Kelly Lane is , she is a
7:26
master at hiding in plain sight
7:28
. In
7:30
1999 , when Kelly had
7:32
her third child in hospital , she
7:35
told staff it was her first and
7:38
once again put the child up for adoption
7:40
through an agency , as she had done
7:42
with her first . However
7:45
, when the adoption agency couldn't
7:47
reach her to finalise the paperwork
7:49
as she had given them false contact
7:52
information , the baby was
7:54
put into the care of Docs while
7:56
they attempted to locate her . So
7:59
Docs was the
8:01
NSW State Government Department
8:04
of Community Services that
8:06
provided child welfare services
8:08
from 1881
8:10
until it was abolished in 2009
8:13
. The Docs social
8:15
worker who was put in charge of locating
8:18
Kelly , his name was John Barovnik
8:20
. He was the person who
8:22
discovered for the very first time
8:25
other than hospital staff
8:27
that Teagan even existed
8:29
. He uncovered this
8:31
purely by accident , and
8:34
when he went in search of more information
8:36
about the child he could find
8:38
no records of her , no
8:41
medical records , nothing to
8:43
indicate that Teagan was alive and
8:45
well . He
8:48
also found out that Kelly had
8:50
had another child her
8:52
first , who was adopted previously
8:54
. So this got him thinking
8:57
. Well , she's had three
8:59
children . Her first and third
9:01
were adopted out here
9:04
on Earth is a second . He
9:07
managed to eventually contact Kelly
9:09
by phone and ask her point
9:12
blank if she had given
9:14
birth to a child called Teagan . At
9:17
Orban Hospital Kelly
9:19
denied having any previous
9:21
children , saying her third child
9:23
was her first . Then
9:26
, a week later , she
9:28
told the social worker that she
9:31
had in fact had Teagan and
9:33
that Teagan was living in Perth with
9:35
her dad . He
9:38
couldn't locate Teagan or the
9:40
father , so he alerted the Manly
9:42
Police Department and reported
9:44
Teagan as a potential missing person
9:47
. By this time
9:49
Teagan would have been three years old
9:51
. The
9:54
initial investigation into Teagan's
9:56
disappearance was slow . The
9:59
case was taken on by senior constable
10:01
Matthew Kehoe , even
10:03
though he knew Kelly's father
10:06
from when he had been a sergeant at
10:08
Manly Police Department . Kelly's
10:11
father had retired in 1995
10:14
, so he was no longer on the
10:16
force , but still this
10:18
was clearly a conflict of interest
10:20
to be investigating the
10:22
previous sergeant's daughter . In
10:26
2000 , kelly fell pregnant
10:28
again , but this time
10:30
she told her boyfriend and
10:33
her family that she was pregnant
10:35
. So for the very first
10:37
time she announced the pregnancy
10:40
. She went to regular obstetrician
10:42
appointments and she prepared
10:44
for this baby and birth like none
10:46
other . Despite
11:20
a sluggish start in 2001
11:23
, a missing person's investigation
11:25
for Teagan was underway . During
11:28
a police interview , Kelly admitted
11:30
that she had given Teagan to her biological
11:32
father and that his name
11:34
was Andrew Morris . No
11:37
one in her life knew this Andrew
11:39
Morris , nor could anyone recall
11:42
Kelly talking about someone by
11:44
that name . Kelly
11:46
maintained that had a brief affair and
11:49
she had told no one about it except
11:51
for one friend . And she came
11:54
forward much later and
11:56
it was revealed in the ABC documentary
11:59
Exposed that Kelly
12:01
had told her when she was out one night
12:03
about a guy named Andrew that
12:06
she'd been seeing . It
12:08
all appears a bit vague , but
12:10
perhaps that was by design . Despite
12:13
this , police still couldn't locate
12:15
an Andrew Morris and
12:17
, with Kelly claiming she didn't know where
12:19
Teagan was , they were at
12:21
a complete dead end . In
12:24
May 2003 , a new
12:26
detective , detective Gort , came
12:29
on the scene and in his first interview
12:31
with Kelly she revealed she
12:33
had made a mistake and the man's
12:35
name was not Andrew Morris , it
12:38
was Andrew Norris with
12:40
an N . It's in this recorded
12:43
interview that I'm sure most
12:45
of you have seen . It's on YouTube if
12:47
you want to look at it . She's
12:50
asked if she's being untruthful
12:52
and in response to the question
12:54
she sits in
12:57
complete silence for
12:59
a full 60 seconds
13:01
. Goren says
13:04
no . She
13:06
adamantly denies killing Teagan
13:08
and says she would never harm
13:10
her . Now a minute might
13:13
not sound like a long time , but sitting in
13:15
a police interview room it's
13:17
an uncomfortably lengthy pause . Detective
13:21
Gore reiterated that he still
13:23
didn't believe her story and
13:26
said that they would continue their investigations
13:28
. At this point
13:30
in the interview , kelly became visibly
13:32
upset , but her
13:35
concern didn't appear to be
13:37
about Teagan or the fact that
13:39
she was considered missing , nor
13:42
did she possibly realise the implication
13:44
that she was being suspected of
13:46
harming Teagan or of murder . It
13:49
was more apparent that she was fearful of her
13:51
parents and the wider community finding
13:53
out everything that she kept hidden
13:56
for so long . Kelly
13:58
had kept not only her pregnancies
14:00
, births and adoptions secret
14:02
, but also the fact that she was
14:04
being questioned and investigated
14:06
by police in her own child's missing
14:09
persons case . No one
14:11
knew anything . Once
14:13
again , a master of deception
14:15
. All smoke and mirrors , nothing
14:17
to see here . In
14:20
January 2004 , the
14:22
third police interview took place and
14:25
she still hadn't told anyone . She
14:27
was still clearly worried about how
14:29
people would view her , what her
14:31
parents would think if and when they found
14:33
out . She was also
14:35
now concerned about whether her most
14:37
recent child , who was in her
14:40
care , would be taken
14:42
away from her . So the consequences
14:44
of this investigation were starting to hit home
14:46
if they couldn't find Teagan . So
14:50
, before the police could , she
14:52
told her parents , telling them she'd
14:55
had a baby and that the police
14:57
thought she'd done something to it . Her
15:00
words , her parents believed
15:02
her version of events , as they still
15:05
do today . They continued to stand
15:07
by her and also emphatically
15:09
state she would never harm a
15:11
child . In fact , in
15:14
all of the reporting on this story
15:16
, there's not one person who
15:18
came forward to say that Kelly had a mean
15:20
streak or that she had potential
15:22
to hurt anyone , let alone
15:24
a baby . Everyone
15:27
has said there's just no way
15:29
. After
15:32
Teagan had been missing for seven and a half
15:34
years , the case was referred to the coroner
15:36
and in February of 2006
15:39
, the coronial inquest was held , kelly
15:42
was offered immunity from any
15:44
charges if she told
15:46
the police where the baby was . Immunity
15:50
was on the table . If she divulged
15:52
any criminal offence For
15:54
example , she could have confessed
15:56
to accidentally harming her illegal
16:00
adoption . Selling Teagan
16:02
anything but murder
16:04
would get her off any and all
16:06
charges . She
16:09
didn't take the deal because , as
16:11
she says in the exposed documentary
16:13
, she would never admit to something
16:15
she didn't do . Initially
16:18
, the court was closed to the public and there was
16:20
a gag order so nothing could be reported
16:22
in the media . But once Kelly
16:24
refused to take the deal and
16:27
exercised her right not to speak
16:29
at the inquest , the judge
16:31
lifted the no publication order
16:33
and a media circus
16:35
ensued . After hiding
16:37
so many secrets for so many
16:40
years now , everything
16:42
was out there for everyone to see
16:44
and I can remember
16:47
this case being in the media . It
16:49
was high profile . The
16:51
things people were shocked about were how
16:54
she was able to hide a
16:56
pregnancy , or three pregnancies
16:58
, from everyone and
17:00
people questioning like well , why didn't
17:02
she just use birth control if you didn't plan
17:05
on having the babies , especially
17:07
after the first one ? This is how people were
17:09
talking here about the case and
17:12
about her choices . They were also
17:14
talking about her reputation and
17:16
there was certainly an element of slut shaming
17:18
. The police
17:21
also used this momentum
17:23
to appeal to the public to help
17:25
find Teagan . If she was
17:27
out there , if her dad , her
17:29
grandmother and her stepmother were all
17:32
out there still caring for Teagan
17:34
, where were they ? Why
17:36
didn't they come forward ? Why
17:38
have they not come forward ? The
17:40
coroner , john Abernethy
17:43
, ruled that he was satisfied
17:45
Teagan was deceased , but
17:47
that there was not enough evidence to charge
17:49
a known person with her homicide
17:51
. The coroner called
17:53
Kelly's accounts a
17:55
litany of lies based
17:58
on what she had told police , social
18:00
services and adoption agencies
18:02
and said that her version of what
18:04
happened to Teagan was possible
18:07
but unlikely . He
18:09
maintained that , as Kelly herself
18:11
had provided no further details
18:14
or answers to questions
18:16
put to her at the inquest , that
18:18
he was simply unable to do more
18:21
than refer the case to the New South
18:23
Wales Homicide Squad for review
18:25
and further investigation . This
18:28
is when Detective Sharon Rhodes said
18:31
about reinvestigating the case . There
18:33
was a dig conducted underneath a house
18:36
in Venus Street in Gladesville
18:38
in Sydney's inner west . This
18:40
happened in 2008
18:42
, so 12 years after Teagan
18:45
had been born . The house
18:47
was previously owned by the boyfriend
18:49
. Kelly had been dating at the time and
18:52
she apparently told police in an
18:54
interview that she had briefly visited
18:56
on the day she was discharged from
18:59
hospital . Well
19:01
, perhaps police thought this because
19:03
in the exposed documentary she
19:06
said that Andrew Norris
19:08
, or Morris , dropped her off at
19:10
home after she met him
19:12
at the hospital , which
19:15
I personally find incredible
19:17
. If she was trying to hide the fact that
19:19
she'd had a baby , why
19:21
would she then allow him
19:25
to drop her off at home with a baby
19:27
in the car and possibly be seen ? I
19:30
don't know . Nothing of
19:32
note was found at the dig , despite
19:34
bringing in cadaver dogs and
19:37
doing a thorough grid search on that property
19:39
. Teagan was not there , but
19:41
neighbours did report that there had been
19:43
extensive renovations done on the home
19:46
from 2004
19:48
. A call was put out to
19:50
the public asking for anyone who had
19:52
contact with Kelly while she was in
19:54
hospital or anyone who had
19:56
seen her in the car park on the 14th
19:58
of September in 1996
20:01
to please come forward . After
20:04
two years of further investigating
20:07
, the police still didn't have
20:09
enough evidence to charge Kelly with any
20:11
crime , so they went to
20:13
the DPP , which is the Department
20:15
of Public Prosecutions , for legal
20:18
advice as to whether to continue
20:20
investigating or drop
20:22
it . The DPP said
20:24
yes , proceed with the case
20:26
. So in 2009
20:29
, kelly Lane was charged
20:31
with murder . In
20:43
2010 , the trial began in the Supreme
20:46
Court . Kelly did not
20:48
take the stand at any time and
20:50
did not testify , so the prosecution
20:53
had no body , no
20:56
murder weapon , no evidence
20:58
of death , no witnesses and
21:01
no confession . In
21:03
addition to the murder charge was three
21:05
counts of lying in relation
21:07
to the previous births , and this
21:09
meant the jury was able to hear about
21:12
these births , these secret births
21:14
. In any other trial
21:16
, this information wouldn't be allowed to
21:18
be admitted as there was no connection to
21:20
the original charge of murder . In
21:22
fact , the judge presiding over the case
21:25
explicitly asked the defence if
21:27
they wanted to strike the three charges
21:29
of lying from the record , but
21:32
they didn't , so it was allowed
21:34
. It also became evident
21:36
that the police investigation
21:38
was continuing on . Throughout the trial
21:40
, the prosecution was still
21:43
submitting documentation and
21:45
evidence that the defence had
21:47
to work through . Both the judge
21:49
and the defence found this frustrating
21:52
, and the judge raised his concerns
21:54
saying look , if this continues
21:56
, the trial would have to be aborted
21:58
. They stopped and
22:01
the trial continued . The
22:04
prosecution alleged that Kelly
22:06
murdered Teagan and dumped
22:08
her body at Olympic Park . It
22:11
was a theory without any supporting
22:13
evidence , and it was later withdrawn
22:15
and struck from the record Because
22:18
of this . The judge offered the defence
22:20
for the jury to be discharged and
22:23
a new jury assembled , but
22:25
they declined and the trial proceeded
22:28
with the original jurors . It
22:31
would seem the defence really thought they
22:33
had an open and shut case . Kelly
22:36
was innocent . They didn't
22:38
know the how , the when , the where
22:40
or the why , or even
22:43
if Teagan was actually deceased , so
22:45
there was no chance that Kelly
22:47
could be found guilty . They
22:50
didn't bring forward any witnesses
22:52
not one , while the prosecution
22:55
had over 75 . Ultimately
23:00
, kelly Lane was found guilty and
23:02
convicted of murder and three counts
23:04
of lying under the oath in December
23:07
of 2010 . She
23:09
was sentenced to 18 years in Silverwater
23:11
Women's Correctional Centre but
23:13
has been moved to other correctional centres
23:15
during that time , and she is currently
23:18
due for release in May 2024
23:21
. She appealed in the High
23:23
Court in 2014 against
23:26
her conviction , but lost , and
23:28
it was in 2018 that
23:30
she agreed to do an ABC
23:32
tell all interview documentary
23:35
in the hope that someone would come
23:37
forward with Teagan . The
23:39
series , as I mentioned , is
23:41
called Exposed the Case of Kelly
23:44
Lane , and I'll leave a link to
23:46
it in the show notes if you'd like to watch it
23:48
. I believe it's the very
23:50
first time she speaks publicly about
23:52
her story and she still strenuously
23:54
and continuously denies any involvement
23:57
in the alleged crime . Some
24:00
key points revealed in the documentary
24:02
that I think are worth mentioning are
24:04
the investigative journalist
24:06
found a tenant from the apartment
24:08
building where Kelly said Norris
24:11
Andrew Norris had lived . This
24:14
tenant had never been interviewed by
24:16
police , had never been found by police
24:18
and he positively
24:21
ID Kelly Lane as being there
24:23
. So he claims he saw her coming
24:25
and going at around the time
24:27
that she would have been seeing Andrew Norris
24:30
. However , he doesn't remember
24:32
seeing or knowing about a tenant
24:34
called Andrew Morris or Andrew
24:36
Norris . They
24:38
also discovered that a man called Andrew
24:41
Morris was interviewed by New
24:43
South Wales police during the
24:45
investigation . This Andrew
24:47
Morris claims he had one sexual
24:50
encounter with Kelly and that
24:52
he didn't have Teagan with him . Kelly
24:54
denies ever meeting this man
24:57
. He was nominated as
24:59
a witness for the trial but after
25:01
a negotiation between the defense
25:03
and the prosecution he was never
25:05
called to testify . Now
25:08
he can't confidently
25:10
say that it was her . He
25:13
feels he was led or coached to
25:15
come up with the memory by police and he
25:18
says this in the documentary . So
25:20
the negotiation or the deal
25:22
was a witness swap out . The
25:24
prosecution agreed not to put Andrew
25:26
Morris on the stand if the defense didn't
25:28
call Kelly's friend , who was
25:31
prepared to testify that Kelly had told
25:33
her she was seeing a guy called
25:35
Andrew Norris or Morris At
25:37
the time before she became pregnant with Teagan
25:39
. If this witness for
25:41
the defense had gone on the stand , it's
25:44
possible her testimony may have
25:46
provided enough reasonable doubt
25:48
for the jury not to convict
25:50
. Is
25:53
Kelly currently serving a sentence
25:56
for a crime she didn't commit and
25:58
Teagan is alive and well
26:00
, presumably living under a new
26:03
identity ? Or
26:05
did Kelly do the unthinkable
26:07
and murder her two
26:09
day old child and dispose
26:11
of her remains ? The
26:13
Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative believes
26:16
that Kelly Lange's case is a wrongful
26:18
conviction . The evidence
26:20
they have to support this is phone
26:24
records weren't checked adequately at
26:26
the time to confirm that Kelly
26:28
was in contact with Andrew Norris
26:30
in the early days , as
26:33
she says that she was . These
26:35
phone records have since been destroyed . Police
26:39
didn't look hard enough for Andrew Norris and
26:41
they didn't find the witness in the apartment
26:44
block that Kelly said he lived in
26:46
, who positively ID Kelly
26:48
as being there . They
26:51
didn't work with Kelly to provide a conflict
26:53
drawing to show to the public to
26:56
appeal for the father's whereabouts , and
26:59
she was also unfairly slut
27:01
shamed . This
27:03
is from the petition of Mercy on their
27:05
website , and I'll link their website
27:07
in the show notes sources . In
27:10
2019 , the Bridge of Hope
27:12
Innocence Initiative called for an urgent
27:14
review into the Kelly Lange murder case
27:16
, following evidence that has
27:19
cast out over the adequacy of the police
27:21
investigation and the fairness
27:23
of her trial . We
27:25
have petitioned the Attorney General of
27:28
New South Wales to open a
27:30
full inquiry into the investigation
27:32
, prosecution and conviction
27:34
of Kelly Lange . While
27:36
we are supporting a position for
27:38
a review into Lange's conviction , what
27:41
is needed urgently is an
27:43
investigation into the policing
27:45
and prosecutorial practices that
27:48
led to Lange's trial in the first place
27:50
. The
28:02
two emergent theories are that
28:05
Teagan was murdered by Kelly just
28:07
after she left the hospital , or
28:10
that Teagan was given to the care of
28:12
a man called Andrew Norris , who
28:15
has never been located . Neither
28:18
has his mother or girlfriend , who
28:20
Kelly claims was with him when she
28:22
handed Teagan over to him . It's
28:25
worth mentioning that in Australia
28:27
, we do have a history of accusing
28:29
and convicting mothers of infanticide
28:31
and later exonerating
28:34
them . Lindy Chamberlain
28:36
and Catherine Folbig are
28:38
two Australian mothers who were
28:40
convicted of murdering their children in
28:43
what one could definitely say was
28:45
a trial by media and a witch
28:47
hunt , only to be exonerated
28:50
years later when more evidence
28:52
was uncovered or when the evidence
28:54
used to convict was proven to be flawed
28:57
. You can basically
28:59
get an expert witness to literally
29:01
say anything you need them to if
29:04
it supports your case in trial , and
29:06
this is what we saw with the aforementioned cases
29:09
. Both of these women are now free
29:11
and have been exonerated . In
29:14
my opinion , it would have been difficult
29:17
to leave the hospital , murder Teagan
29:19
and dispose of her remains and
29:22
then get back to her parents place that day
29:24
in time for the wedding Not
29:27
impossible , but difficult
29:29
. And why ? If
29:32
she had given her first child up for adoption
29:34
, would she not do it for her second
29:37
, as she did again for her third
29:39
? I can totally understand
29:42
covering everything up . At a young
29:44
age , kelly
29:46
was resourceful and came
29:48
up with a plan for two of
29:50
her children three , if
29:52
we believe her story . That involved
29:54
keeping her children safe and cared
29:56
for when she could not . She
30:00
had also had two abortions previously
30:02
in her teens , so she knew
30:04
what options were available to
30:06
her if she did not wish to keep her children
30:09
, and she utilised the services
30:11
at the time . It's
30:13
not a crime to
30:15
have a secret pregnancy
30:17
and give birth to a baby and
30:20
give them up for adoption . It's
30:22
perplexing that she would decide
30:24
on a different plan with one of
30:26
those children . I feel
30:28
it more plausible that she gave the
30:30
baby to someone and
30:32
she's still either protecting that someone
30:35
or she genuinely
30:37
didn't know them or didn't want any
30:39
contact and therefore can't trace
30:41
them . Now , like a private
30:43
adoption with no future contact
30:45
agreed between the two parties , it's
30:48
also possible that that person
30:50
has decided , for whatever reason , not
30:53
to come forward with Teagan , perhaps
30:55
to protect the child , to
30:58
protect themselves . If
31:00
Kelly knew more than what she's
31:02
letting on , she had ample
31:04
opportunity to get immunity and
31:07
not go to prison by telling the
31:09
police what she knew . She
31:11
did not or chose not to
31:13
. So the only person
31:15
who really knows the truth about what
31:17
happened to Teagan is Kelly herself
31:20
. New South
31:22
Wales has recently introduced a new
31:24
law after the Lynette Dawson
31:26
case . Lynne's law is
31:29
no body , no parole , so
31:31
convicted murderers will not be released until
31:34
they reveal the location of
31:36
their victim's body . Kelly is
31:38
still serving her 18 year
31:40
sentence and has reportedly
31:42
been a model prisoner . I've
31:44
read in one article that she's even
31:47
considered Queen B , which
31:49
here is like top dog
31:51
. She's due for release in
31:54
early 2024 and
31:56
Lynne's law doesn't apply retrospectively
31:58
, so she should be released at that time
32:00
. There have been recent reports
32:02
that she's currently living in a halfway
32:04
house and has a full-time job for
32:07
the prison in preparation for her
32:09
release next year . She maintains
32:11
her innocence and the investigation
32:13
into Teagan's whereabouts continues
32:16
. The fact remains
32:18
that Teagan is still a missing
32:20
person and will be until
32:23
either she is found alive or
32:25
her remains are located . It
32:29
ended up by chance that the day
32:31
I wrote this episode was Teagan's
32:33
birthday . She would be
32:35
27 years old now . Happy
32:39
birthday , teagan . If
32:42
you or anyone you know know
32:45
anything at all , please
32:47
contact Police Link on
32:49
131-444
32:51
or call Crime Stoppers on 1800-333-000
32:56
. Thanks
32:58
for listening to Bolo . If
33:00
this episode has brought up feelings for you
33:02
and you need support , please
33:05
reach out to Lifeline on 131114
33:09
or Respect on 1800
33:11
. Respect . You
33:14
can connect with me on Insta or TikTok
33:17
at Bolopod
33:19
or email me at
33:21
Bolopod at iCloudcom
33:23
if you have a case you'd like me to cover . Until
33:27
next week , stay safe and
33:30
thanks again for listening .
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