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to the Busted Open Podcast. This

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is Dave LaGreck. On today's episode,

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we break down Monday Night Raw,

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Liv and Dom. We talk about

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the Wyatt Six. Also, those

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holy shit chants or the

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lack thereof because somebody at

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USA is continuously hitting that

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mute button. Don't hit mute on us because

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we're going to break it all

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down right now. This is the

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Busted Open Podcast. We've talked

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about this a lot the last couple

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of weeks, Bully. And that's

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the Wyatt Six. We

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had another sit down with Bo

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Dallas and Uncle Howdy.

1:00

Everything is up to interpretation, right? I mean,

1:02

when you're listening to that, like you talked

1:05

about it last week, like you

1:07

listened to it and you saw it one way,

1:09

I listened to it and I saw it another

1:12

way. There was something

1:14

that was said last night between

1:17

those two, Bully, that

1:19

actually reminded me of a phone call from

1:21

one of our nation members on the show

1:24

yesterday that I kind of poo pooed and

1:26

maybe I'm looking at it completely different.

1:30

But we had a call yesterday and

1:32

said, do you think eventually the Wyatt

1:35

Six will go up

1:37

against the bloodline? And I kind

1:39

of was like, I don't, I don't see that.

1:41

Like the Wyatt Six are on Raw. You

1:44

know, the bloodline is in

1:46

the main event scene. Wyatt Six right

1:48

now, we can't even have that conversation.

1:52

But there was the discussion in that sit down

1:54

last night when he talked about using

1:57

your family and your family. might

12:01

not be anything near what

12:04

they turn out to be. I just

12:07

happened to come across a picture of

12:10

me and Devon from

12:12

practically day one, Dave,

12:14

like the first time

12:16

we were ever shot

12:18

together when Devon made

12:20

his debut at the

12:23

Lost Battalion Hall on Queens

12:25

Boulevard in New York.

12:29

And later that night we took pictures and

12:31

to see what me and Devon looked like

12:33

then, like if you would have

12:35

ever looked at that picture and go,

12:37

those are the two guys that

12:40

will become the most successful

12:42

tag team in the history of professional wrestling.

12:44

And people realize that I used the word

12:46

successful, not greatest, not best. It's all subjective.

12:48

You guys can determine who's the best. There

12:51

is no, you cannot debate me and Devon,

12:53

the most successful team that has ever existed.

12:55

But if you would have said those two

12:57

guys are going to be the one to

13:00

do it, you would have laughed. You'd be

13:02

like, there's no way. This is the joke

13:04

act. This is a clown act. This is

13:06

a gimmick. This is not going to work.

13:10

But it did. My

13:14

God, that kid can't talk. Don't ever

13:16

give him a microphone. Stone

13:19

Cold Steve Austin. Everybody

13:22

has their day one. You never know

13:24

what you're going to pan out to

13:26

be. That's why with the

13:28

Wyatt's, especially with this gimmick, you got to

13:30

give it time. I used to break balls

13:32

about retribution. Retribution could

13:34

have been a great act if

13:37

it was handled the right way, but you need

13:39

to give it time to unfold. Retribution

13:42

was a victim of kind of that

13:44

tail end of the Vince McMahon era

13:46

where they were just throwing stuff

13:48

at the wall to see what would stick.

13:51

And you know, bully, there

13:53

were so many storylines that never

13:55

had an end or storylines that

13:57

just ended for no reason at

13:59

all. did

18:00

the week before. So

18:06

what would happen again if he got

18:08

another VHS tape? Is Michael Cole just

18:11

going to get used to the lights

18:13

going out and the smoke and the

18:15

creepy looking girl like she just came

18:17

out of the movie, the ring, you

18:19

know, comes out? Like

18:21

there needs to be consistency.

18:24

When the lights go out and, um,

18:26

you know, and the smoke comes, people need

18:28

to scatter. I mean, I mean, for Christ's

18:30

sake, two weeks in a row, this has

18:33

happened and the security guards that

18:35

were planted at the announced

18:38

table position are now knocked out. We don't

18:40

know who knocked them out. We don't know

18:42

what. So they're laying on Cole's desk. And

18:44

they're laying on Cole's desk. Cole's like, Oh

18:46

my God, here comes this creepy lady again.

18:48

What should we do? Cole should be terrified.

18:50

He should be running for the hills. Everybody

18:54

should be running for the hills. And

18:56

then the girl can leave the box

18:58

on the table. And

19:00

then when we can, the camera sees the girl

19:02

walk away, they can go to commercial break. Then

19:05

when they come back from commercial break, you

19:07

see Cole walking back towards the announced desk,

19:09

puts the headphones on. Ladies and gentlemen, really

19:11

sorry, but I've been doing this for 30

19:14

years and this stuff is just creeping me

19:16

out. I don't know what's going on. I'm

19:18

legit scared for my life. I have two

19:20

weeks in a row now. Security

19:22

guards knocked out on the announced desk. I don't

19:24

know if they're coming for me next, but there's

19:26

a box on the table. Like

19:30

he was a little too ready for it

19:32

last night. Well, that's going to be

19:34

the, that's going to be the thing that's going to

19:36

be risky. Right. Bully

19:38

is when you're doing it in front of

19:41

an audience, in front of a live crowd,

19:43

because even with Chad Gable, you know, Chad

19:45

Gable, who was knocked out and bloodied two

19:47

weeks ago from the Wyatt six, you know,

19:49

he was kind of

19:51

like, all right, let me get out of here. But

19:54

it was, there wasn't like a sense of urgency.

19:56

And the other thing, the spotlight was on him.

19:58

The spotlight was following Chad Gable. with

22:01

problems and

22:03

vulnerabilities just like me and you. It

22:09

has to be flawed human beings. It

22:11

can't be with the masks, because then

22:13

it gets wonky. Because if you're flawed

22:15

human beings, now I can

22:17

feel bad for you. Now

22:20

I can have sympathy for you. Now

22:22

I can be behind you. And

22:27

that's what this act is going to need. Because

22:31

to me they can't be heels.

22:33

They are an extension of Bray Wyatt

22:36

who everybody loves. I

22:38

mean, I don't know what this act could

22:40

possibly do to be hated.

22:44

It would be a tremendous force feed.

22:46

That's why I think the bloodline in a

22:49

lot of ways bully. And I know it's

22:51

early and we're speculating on something that's so

22:53

early. But if they're gonna be

22:55

baby faces or the crowd is gonna be behind

22:57

them because they're gonna be sympathetic and because they're

22:59

love for Bray Wyatt, what

23:01

heels do they go after? I mean, they

23:03

went after Chad Gable and who else can

23:06

you go after other than Chad Gable? David's

23:08

a great question because it's a question I would be asking

23:10

you 99% of the time on any

23:12

other act. You'd be like, oh, this guy's gonna be such a great

23:15

baby face and I'd be like, okay, great, who's this heel? If

23:17

he's gonna be a great baby face, who's gonna be the great heel? To

23:20

get him there. I'm

23:22

not quite sure. I mean, if

23:24

you're looking at factions, yes, the bloodline is

23:26

a faction within the WWE but it seems

23:28

to be more about the internal war, the

23:31

civil war within the bloodline moving

23:34

forward than anything else. That's

23:36

why I'm like, give this time. Slow

23:38

and steady wins the race. I wanna

23:40

know about every single one of them.

23:43

I wanna see the first time they all

23:45

come together and sit

23:48

down and maybe talk to one another. Like the

23:53

possibilities with the Wyatt Six are endless. Coming

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25:50

and Dom Mysterio's mind that maybe even more than just

25:52

his mind is Liv Morgan. That saga continues

25:54

my life. friend

26:00

and it's the gift that keeps on giving. What

26:04

would you like to know about it Dave? Oh my well

26:06

let's start from the beginning. You

26:08

know we saw the beginning we saw

26:10

the challenge that Zelina

26:12

made for that world heavyweight championship. First and

26:14

foremost it's got to come back to wrestling

26:17

and it did last night in a big

26:19

way. Bully I really liked

26:21

the match between Zelina Vega

26:23

and Liv Morgan for that world heavyweight championship.

26:25

You know what I really loved about that

26:27

match too and he doesn't get

26:30

enough credit and I'm gonna give credit where

26:32

credit is due and that's Corey Graves. Corey

26:35

Graves did a great job during that

26:37

match on commentary. Now Michael Cole did

26:39

a great job reminding you of Dom

26:41

and Ray and the whole story that

26:43

was going on but I

26:45

really felt like Corey Graves did a

26:47

good job of just talking about the

26:49

match that was happening in that ring

26:53

and about you

26:56

know Zelina being much smaller than Liv

26:58

Morgan and I love the fact though

27:00

but what training she's been doing and

27:02

he said even before the match you're

27:05

gonna see some kicks from Zelina Vega

27:07

in this match and that's exactly what

27:09

what we saw. I thought

27:12

that match made Zelina Vega look good

27:14

but kudos to Corey Graves for

27:17

making her seem like a female

27:19

version of Rey Mysterio. Somebody who

27:22

may be smaller in stature but

27:25

brings a big fight game and we definitely

27:27

saw that played out last night in that

27:29

match. Commentary's job is

27:32

to feature the talent, help

27:34

tell stories about the talent, tell you

27:36

things about the talent that you might not

27:38

know, talk about the talent's training that

27:40

you might not know they've been doing.

27:43

We don't see a lot of matches with

27:45

Zelina Vega so to your point good

27:47

job by Corey of helping bring

27:49

her story forward about her training and

27:51

how she got better in the ring.

27:53

I thought Zelina versus Liv was

27:55

a... the match was fine

27:58

it was the final two to three minutes

28:00

that were really entertaining. Once

28:03

Dom and Ray got involved

28:05

with the distractions and the false

28:08

finishes, there were two quality false

28:10

finishes in that in the in

28:12

the final couple of minutes of

28:14

that match where the people legitimately

28:16

thought Zelina Vega was

28:18

gonna go over. They bought into

28:21

those false finishes hook, line, and

28:23

sinker especially after Zelina hit Liv

28:25

with the 619. I just

28:29

like it because you know we're we

28:31

love Zelina. We talked very highly of

28:33

her on the show Bully and we

28:35

talked about the fact that she hasn't

28:37

gotten opportunities. Well when you finally

28:39

do get the opportunity you have to knock it

28:41

out of the park. I thought Zelina knocked it

28:43

out of the park last week on the microphone

28:45

and I thought she did a great job in

28:47

the ring and how do you

28:50

know she did a great job by what you

28:52

just said Bully. When there was that two and

28:54

a half count last night as they were winding

28:56

down that match, the

28:58

place erupted. You saw fans jump

29:01

to their feet. I

29:03

mean they had you buy in

29:05

that Zelina Vega could possibly be

29:08

your new women's world champion and

29:10

you know what I did too

29:13

and then you saw Zelina and Liv

29:15

get into a physicality later on in

29:17

the show as well. I

29:19

don't think this is the last we're

29:22

gonna see of Zelina Vega especially since

29:25

how we saw that match played

29:27

out and with Dom Mysterio's you

29:30

know interference. We

29:32

could see more of Zelina Vega and Liv Morgan

29:34

in the ring again. I tweeted

29:36

it last night I think after

29:38

last night we definitely need to

29:40

get Rey Mysterio

29:43

and Zelina Vega versus

29:45

Liv Morgan and Dominic

29:47

and I think this can happen at Money

29:49

in the Bank. Why not? I mean I

29:52

would actually love to see that. Right now

29:54

we have five matches in

29:57

store for Money in the Bank. We have the

30:00

money in the bank ladder match for

30:02

a championship opportunity for the men

30:04

and then we have the money in the

30:06

bank ladder match for a women's championship match

30:08

contract as well. Then

30:10

there's just the two singles matches and then

30:12

we have the six man tag. Listen,

30:16

I would love to see Liv and ... but

30:19

could you actually have that happen

30:21

yet? I

30:25

don't know if you can have that happen at Money in the Bank. Don

30:27

Raw was the go home show, but

30:30

that could be something that you could build on

30:33

between Dom and Ray

30:35

and obviously with Zelina being a part of

30:37

the LWO. I'm

30:40

all for it. I mean, they set the table for

30:42

it perfectly last night. Yeah. A

30:45

little story within the story. I

30:47

thought Dom is doing such a great job, by

30:49

the way. Dom plays everything

30:51

off so well. Dom is going

30:53

to be

30:56

special one day once this all finally

30:58

comes together with him. He's learning. I

31:01

love how the look constantly evolves where

31:03

he reminds me more and more of

31:06

Eddie every single time

31:08

we see him last night

31:10

with the drop kick on Dom

31:12

and now Dom is mounting Liv. Liv

31:15

was mounting Dom last week and she was

31:17

holding him in there. They made sure they

31:19

got that shot and then here came Ray

31:21

and got him off. It's

31:26

relatable too. It's a relatable

31:28

story. We see this

31:30

happen in real life all day long. As

31:34

I tweeted last night, Liv is doing

31:36

a fantastic job with this new aspect

31:38

of her character. Listen, Zelina went

31:41

... like you said, when she hit that 619, oh

31:43

my God, the place went absolutely bananas.

31:47

The thing about Zelina is this.

31:49

The WWE hasn't given me enough

31:51

reason to care about Zelina over

31:53

the years. Last night she did

31:55

a lot of good things in the ring. You

31:57

know the meteor off the apron. The

32:00

619, but those are just moves. They

32:04

gotta give me a reason to care about Zelina.

32:06

And we always talk about that story that's on

32:08

the table, about her dad in 9-11, yada,

32:11

yada. But I need to care about her

32:13

more. And I believe that if

32:15

they ever gave her some quality

32:17

mic time, she could

32:20

get people on her side. She did last week. That's

32:22

why I thought last night was big, cuz

32:25

she did last week, and she had that

32:27

championship match. Imagine, and the way that it

32:29

ended, you could continue that story between Liv

32:31

and Zelina. And why not, because who

32:33

else you can have a story with when it

32:35

comes to Liv Morgan right now? Liv

32:38

Morgan is not your usual women's

32:40

world champion in the WWE. How

32:43

do I mean? You're used to what we're

32:45

seeing with Bayley right now, what you see

32:47

with Charlotte, what you see with Becky. Even

32:51

with Rhea Ripley, there's the

32:53

usual championship guard that

32:55

you see within the WWE when it comes to

32:57

their women's division. This is

32:59

not a knock, but Liv Morgan is

33:01

not those wrestlers. But yet she's doing

33:03

a phenomenal job as your women's champion.

33:07

Liv Morgan is not great

33:10

in the ring. She really isn't,

33:12

but she is a star, and

33:16

she has a personality and a character and

33:18

an aura about her. Even

33:21

last night, Zelina quote

33:23

unquote out wrestled Liv in that

33:25

match last night. It almost felt

33:27

like, God, I

33:30

don't mean to sound disrespectful. Like

33:32

they were in two different classes.

33:34

It really did. When I see

33:36

Zelina wrestler, Zelina is a fantastic

33:38

athlete and a great wrestler. I

33:41

really don't see that with Liv Morgan, but

33:43

does it matter? It really doesn't matter at

33:46

all, because I have

33:48

bought into her being champion, Hookline and

33:50

Sinker. I know

33:52

the younger generation doesn't truly

33:54

understand this and doesn't want

33:56

to agree with this, but the

33:59

older generation. that

36:00

they were embraced on the floor last

36:02

night outside the ring and the

36:05

way that Liv Morgan sat up

36:07

on Dom. Wow

36:10

I mean Dom

36:12

is staying strong but

36:15

every man has their

36:17

breaking point and

36:20

the other thing about it

36:22

is that Liv is making sense. Liv

36:24

is helping the Judgment Day that's number

36:27

one. Now it's at the point where

36:29

the only person that's kind of being

36:32

open-minded about this is Damien where

36:34

like Liv is now trying

36:36

to get Dom but she's won over

36:38

JD and Finn Balor after you

36:41

know kind of pseudo helping them win the

36:43

tag titles that now

36:45

it's like you know Damien

36:48

Priest is on the outside looking

36:50

in on his own faction that's

36:53

why I'm very very

36:55

very interested on what happens

36:58

Saturday with that money in the bank

37:00

with that World Heavyweight Championship match at

37:02

Money in the Bank. And

37:04

they keep reminding us that that

37:08

Liv Morgan's number one goal is to

37:10

take everything from Rhea Ripley. She

37:15

once she she's already won over JD

37:17

and Finn Balor. She's won over JD

37:19

McDonough and Finn Balor and

37:22

she is on the cusp of winning

37:25

over Dom Mysterio. That's gonna

37:28

be the big one and

37:30

if Damien Priest loses this

37:32

championship this weekend and

37:35

he's no longer the World Heavyweight

37:37

Champion then

37:39

Damien Priest is gonna be on

37:41

the outs with the Judgment Day

37:43

believe it or not. Coming up

37:45

after the break note to USA

37:47

stop censoring the holy shit chance.

40:00

XOXO denoting

40:02

many hugs and many kisses showing

40:04

uncle bully's true love for the

40:07

USA Network. And you

40:09

love the USA Network, but

40:12

you're a thousand percent right. First

40:14

of all, it's not even if

40:16

like, let's just say, Selena

40:18

Vega said, you know, shit

40:21

to live Morgan. All right, what's the

40:24

big deal? But if you want to mute

40:26

that out, all right, I get

40:28

it. I don't get it, but OK. This

40:31

is a crowd of people. You can

40:33

barely make out what they're saying anyway, for

40:35

crying out loud. It's

40:37

an audience of people in the

40:39

background. And now you're muting program.

40:42

I tell you what, it's even worse

40:44

on Fox because whoever's in charge of

40:46

like the mute button on Fox doesn't

40:48

understand there's a difference between the audio

40:51

button and the visual button because they

40:53

press both like there's there's

40:55

holy. They hit mute and they go to black and

40:57

they go to black. I'm like, what the hell's

40:59

going on here? Like what

41:01

went on to black? So I

41:04

can't actually see an audience member mouth

41:06

the word shit now. Like

41:08

they go to I'm like, what am I watching

41:11

here? Stop already.

41:14

And then, you know, Temptation Island or

41:16

some movie comes on immediately

41:19

after Monday Night Raw.

41:22

Fuck shit whore. Dave

41:24

just went to black. I

41:29

wish everybody could see what I'm

41:31

seeing right now. We're definitely putting

41:33

this video up for the entire

41:35

nation to see. Dave Le Greco's

41:37

zoom camera just went black when

41:39

he said, do you know what

41:41

happened? What Paul, what

41:43

did he say? What Paul, you got censored.

41:45

You said, you said what words you said.

41:47

And then you got censored. Your camera went

41:50

to black like the Fox guys would do.

41:52

They missed it though. They got in late. You

41:54

still said the words, but then you went to

41:57

black. Yeah. Yeah. And

42:01

there you have it once again Dave Le

42:03

Greco has gone to black Spaceball

42:06

one they've gone to

42:08

plaid Dave

42:11

Le Greco he's gone to

42:13

black. It's it's so annoying

42:19

It's it makes me want to change

42:21

the channel It makes me it

42:23

makes it honestly makes me want to change

42:25

the channel during smackdown It's the absolute worst

42:28

because they're blacking out the screen. I think

42:30

there's something wrong with my TV, but I

42:32

see the live Inscription

42:34

in the top right corner of my

42:36

TV. So I know it's still on

42:38

like because they're saying holy shit They

42:42

got to turn off the video too so

42:45

annoying so Freaking annoying

42:47

boy dear USA Network. We

42:49

love you very much. Please

42:51

stop No,

42:53

I you know what I mean the holy shit chance.

42:56

No, you know what bully I Like

42:59

them. I don't love them. I like

43:01

them, but I don't love them. I have no reason

43:03

not to not love them Very

43:06

great run on the USA Network I

43:08

always try to retweet and

43:10

quote tweet all the stuff that's going on

43:12

on USA with WWE documentaries Did you see

43:15

how they reseated me and divan last night?

43:18

They didn't put you on with the cops they

43:21

turned our cup around for the

43:23

Bojangles thing and That's

43:25

definitely because I pissed them off on

43:27

social media without a doubt,

43:29

but that's okay I screencapped everything and I

43:31

put it on the old Twitter machine bubble

43:33

the boss says something that's interesting on Twitter

43:36

at You know, he's

43:38

bubbled a boss. He says why

43:40

can't the job WWE? Just

43:42

fade the audience down or

43:45

turn the or attorney The

43:47

audience mics down when they start doing the

43:49

holy shit chance so that they don't have

43:51

to get muted Couldn't they

43:54

just turn the audience mics off when they're

43:56

doing all Lord knows Lord knows this times

43:58

when they turn the audience mics off Yeah,

44:00

so why can't they just turn it down?

44:04

I don't know. I last night it

44:06

really the the bleeping of the of

44:08

the holy shit chant during

44:10

the white since it really kind of

44:13

Took me out of the moment for

44:15

a second because you're getting a natural reaction

44:18

of the fans in the arena This

44:21

is organic. This is raw. They're so

44:23

into it that they feel the need

44:25

to chant holy shit And

44:28

now at home, I'm hearing these bleep sounds I

44:31

get it That shit is one of

44:33

the bad words that you're not allowed

44:35

to say the FCC but And

44:39

like I said, I admitted

44:41

it on on social media when I treated USA

44:44

I get it. You have the best interest

44:47

of families and children in

44:49

mind But to

44:51

that point about a half

44:53

an hour later on Monday Night Raw The

44:56

WWE as the package

45:00

for the

45:02

WrestleMania 41 documentary And

45:05

there's a guy named Dave Le

45:07

Greco saying what word

45:10

bullshit Wait, wait, wait.

45:12

What word did you say bullshit?

45:15

Did they bleep it? No, and it was on

45:17

raw Like Michael

45:20

Cole threw to it and I

45:22

said bullshit That's something that's pre-packaged

45:24

that they know that they're gonna

45:26

air on Monday Night Raw It's

45:28

not like that was a surprise that

45:31

trailer has been playing for the last week So

45:34

they Michael Cole throws to that last

45:37

night. I say bullshit. They

45:39

didn't bleep it out I

45:42

don't know. I don't get the well, you know what? Let's

45:44

get the the so-called expert on the line here Why didn't

45:46

they bleep it Paul? I have no

45:48

idea And there you have the so-called expert

45:50

I wish I wish I could tell you You can only

45:53

get here on busted open I

45:55

wish I could tell you bully all I can tell you No, you

45:57

don't even you don't even have like a hypothesis on this I I

46:00

don't because because I would say

46:02

like this it's really

46:04

not the USA networks call It's the

46:06

wwe because they are still in the

46:09

logo in the upper right hand corner

46:11

still says tvpg Therefore that's the wwe

46:13

choice that they want to be pg

46:15

right because you just said the program

46:17

that follows after has all the curse

46:20

words Right. It's wwe's call.

46:22

So therefore if you're going to be pg

46:24

you have to adhere to strict rules Usa

46:26

you're saying the bleeping of

46:28

the word shit is a wwe

46:31

call to bleep the live crowd

46:33

But not bleep the word that's

46:35

in the package promoting wrestlemania 40

46:38

What i'm saying is is that it's

46:40

wwe's call to be pg So if

46:42

they're going to be pg then usa

46:45

has to follow the pg standards if

46:47

if wwe decided We're going to go

46:49

back to being 14 You

46:51

would hear bullshit fully. I have but

46:53

I could not tell you why So

46:56

would you say that legreka is saying bullshit

46:58

just fell through the cracks? I

47:01

don't know. I I I doubt it. I highly

47:04

doubt that bullshit bullshit fell through the cracks It

47:06

might have been a choice from somebody. I

47:08

couldn't tell you from maybe maybe holy shit is

47:10

worse than bullshit I will

47:12

tell you that I

47:14

will tell you that the people that probably

47:16

do the censorship for for the different networks

47:19

Are they're 100 different people? So fox

47:21

people may have accidentally hit the video

47:23

button Maybe they saw a middle finger

47:25

that they can't show. I don't know

47:28

but definitely the different networks have different rules

47:30

and different people It's

47:32

fucking annoying It's

47:35

beyond annoying busted open

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