We join a conversation between Pat Cruz and Juli Crockett as they discuss the creation of CNP's The George Project: A Liberation Through Hearing, a new seven-part audio play inspired by and adapted from When This War is Over, You’re Going to Get it George, a 1975 meditation on the brutal logics of war by artist Emilio Cruz. Cruz and Crockett share a lively discussion about the inquiries that forged Emilio’s work, and the power of creativity to connect us to multiple planes of the human experience. 

Hosted by Marissa Chibás, this podcast was produced by CalArts Center for New Performance, the professional producing arm of California Institute of the Arts, Travis Preston Artistic Director and Dean of CalArts School of Theater. Produced by George Lugg and Rory James Leech. Editing and sound engineering by Duncan Woodbury. Podcast theme music by Cristian Amigo. Special thanks to Ravi Rajan, President of CalArts. 

For more information on these artists and their work, as well as other CNP projects visit centerfornewperformance.org.

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