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Inheriting. Growing up on
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Guam, Leilani Wihangi Santos was taught
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the US saved the island, but the
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truth is much more complicated. What
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wherever you get your podcasts. This
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is Imperfect Paradise, the show about
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hidden worlds and messy realities. I'm
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Antonia Serrígido. Last
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episode, Danyen Samora had to get used to
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life in Mexico. Get a call
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center job, get his own apartment, all
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while keeping up his cross-border relationship and
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waiting for news of his deportation appeal.
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Only to learn that the appeal was denied and
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for his relationship with his boyfriend in the
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US to fizzle into a breakup. I
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feel like we both lost something on
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that date. That I still think a
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lot about, you know, probably spend the
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rest of my life thinking about him from time
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to time. This
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episode of Imperfect Paradise returned to Mexico,
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part three. Danyen is
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caught between fighting to go back to the
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US or opening up to his life in
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Mexico. And I started
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having this weird struggle within myself of what
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part of me do I keep? The
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Mexican part that has this beautiful
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freedom that can go anywhere or
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the American one that's always wanting
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and longing for something that he
1:39
no longer has. And
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Danyen reckons with the trade-offs inherent
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to migration. I do wonder
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in that multiverse scenario what Dany
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is doing and how Dany is
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doing. Here's
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lead reporter, Lorna Arios. looking
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up at the light filtering through the
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stained glass windows. And
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at the side altar, he saw
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a familiar figure. La
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Virgen de Guadalupe, the image
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of the Virgin Mary as
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a dark-skinned woman, which has
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become iconic, a symbol of
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Mexico. I remember
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how it moved me to see her
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in a church in Texas when I
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was a teenager. It
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felt like a recognition of my
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heritage. A gesture
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saying, you are welcome
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here. And I went to
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the altar of La Virgen de Guadalupe, and I
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was seeing her in this cathedral outside of Mexico.
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And one of the things that I've always been
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amazed is at how Mexican you can
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feel when you're outside of Mexico and
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you see something from Mexico.
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That's the first time that
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I actually felt like I
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was proud to be Mexican.
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Daniel stayed in Paris for
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almost three weeks and settled
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into a routine. Every
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morning, he'd drop by a cafe where
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he could get a small coffee and
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chocolate croissant for €1.50. And
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then he'd go to museums to see
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paintings he'd studied in his college textbooks.
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The one sound that whenever I hear it, and it
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sounds like Paris to me when I
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got there, it's La
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Noye from Amelie Soundtrack. I
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just remember riding the metro. The city
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was grey because it was winter. But
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the color that I was perceiving
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was silver, that shiny shimmering, rich
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silver color. And
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that almost reflects light. And
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it almost felt like the city was reflecting
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to me what I was giving it. And
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I felt so alive. I
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felt that I could do anything, that I could
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What price would you pay to speak your
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Find it wherever you get your
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podcasts. This
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is Imperfect Paradise, returned to
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Mexico. I'm Lorena Rios. When
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Daniel returned from Paris to Juarez,
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he decided it was time to
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change his life. I
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knew that staying at the call center
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wasn't going to allow me to visit
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Paris ever again. So
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as soon as I had come
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back, I started lining up interviews
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to teach English at different
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private schools. Daniel
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says putting his bilingual skills to
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use felt like a natural necklace.
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step and he had
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the advantage of a U.S. college degree.
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In 2013, two years after his deportation, Daniel
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got a job at a private high school.
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OK. When
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I came to Mexico, I realized that
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the educational system was very different from
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the states. And they were very career-oriented
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instead of being oriented towards the
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mental, emotional, and holistic
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health of a
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person. Teachers had always
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played a big role in Daniel's life.
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And he wanted to be that
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teacher who cares about his students
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beyond the classroom. In
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2018, he landed a job
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at a teacher's college, training
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aspiring English teachers. That
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model tells us, right, that children are all the same. But
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we know for a fact that people
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are not the same. Why
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do we need to do this holistic view
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of the student? He's
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been teaching now for more than
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10 years. And
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in 2019, Daniel
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finally moved out of his
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cold, empty apartment. Can
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you tell me a little bit about
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this tremendous milestone
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of being a house owner?
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My parents achieved their
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goal of going to
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the United States to live and ensure
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that we have the brightest future possible,
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to give us something. And
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they helped us with the down payment
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of things like our cars and
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our houses. So I have
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this tiny little house, two-bedroom,
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one-bathroom house with lots
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of patio for my dogs to run around
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in the front and the back. And
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not once in my life living in the United
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States I thought that I would be a homeowner.
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That seemed like so far-fetched. Not
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long after, Danielle, ever the
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romantic, found himself back in
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love. And
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Danny, where does… Chris
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come in? In this whole thing? Yes.
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Okay, so, 2019? I
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matched the Montana. Danielle
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remembers seeing Chris's profile
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and liking that he
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seemed well-traveled. In each
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photo, he was in a different
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location, swimming in the hot springs
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of Tolantongo or sipping wine at
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a picnic. And they
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started messaging. And they
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found out that they were both
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teachers and they realized that they
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were about to start the exact
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same graduate program in education. They
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decided that they would meet on that
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first day of class. Danielle
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made sure to dress to impress.
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He wore his guayabera with
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the traditional embroidery of tenango.
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So on February 1st,
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2020, we went for
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our first class. I was
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stepping out of the office and
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I saw this guy pull
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up in his car. It
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waved at me. And
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this gorgeous man came down. He's
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really tall. 6'3". He
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has long hair, beautiful
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dark eyes. Chris
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says that he was immediately drawn
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to Danielle's smile and just couldn't
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stop looking at it. It
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seemed to Chris that Danielle was
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always laughing and smiling and he
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was smitten. They
20:00
have four cats, two dogs, and
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their two nieces who are in their 20s
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live with them as well. At
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times, they call those parents. They
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have built a home together. One
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of the things of being part of the
20:26
gay community is that you choose your own
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family. We have
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made a nice little family where he and
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I are the center. But
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there are still obstacles in Dania's
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life, lasting consequences
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of the deportation. The
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biggest one? He's in Mexico and
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his parents are in the States,
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and they haven't been able to see each
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other for over a decade. That's
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after the break, but in
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perfect paradise, returned to Mexico.
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