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Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Released Wednesday, 26th June 2024
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Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Inflation Squeeze: Retirees are Going Back to Work! Ep. 252

Wednesday, 26th June 2024
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0:01

Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of the Capitalist Investor. As

0:05

always, you have me, diamond hands D, and we got Tony the Tiger.

0:09

And in again for Luke, Dave Abate. What's

0:13

going on, man? Great to be here. Can't wait to do it, boys.

0:16

I knew you were excited when I asked you, man. I've never seen

0:20

somebody jumped at a chance. He's like, heck, yeah, I'll get on that podcast. I've

0:24

been waiting, waiting for the call.

0:27

All right, well, this, obviously, we look

0:30

for different topics to talk about every week, and this one

0:34

jumped right off the page at us. Basically, it was

0:38

a Fox Business article about retirees consider

0:42

returning to work during

0:46

this inflation squeeze. And that

0:49

is an extremely interesting topic, obviously, for us,

0:54

because, you know, a lot of people in retirement are living on

0:58

somewhat of a fixed income. So when that fixed income stays

1:02

relatively fixed and the price of everything that you need goes up, that can

1:05

obviously cause problems for those retirees. So

1:09

it looked like just a couple quick numbers to set the table here.

1:13

Social Security did increase

1:16

3.2% this year to start

1:19

2024. And it

1:23

was, you know, it did get a relatively sizable

1:27

increase back starting 2023. But still,

1:30

you know, 27% of people, retirees, Social

1:34

Security is their only income, and it averages about

1:37

40%. It averaged about 40%

1:41

of people's overall retirement income in

1:44

retirement. But during this, this article, you know, essentially,

1:48

they were saying about 62% of retirees were

1:51

struggling to make ends meet and

1:54

19% were delaying retirement just solely because

1:58

of inflation and the prices of everything going up.

2:02

So, yeah. What do you guys think? Inflation, obviously, very

2:06

real topic. We've been talking about it for a long time now.

2:09

What are your thoughts? All right, so

2:13

I read this, I looked through this article. It was from, like, Motley ful

2:17

or something like that, and they came up with a statistic.

2:21

Social Security is not keeping up with random inflation because

2:25

since 2021, food and shelter is up 20%,

2:29

energy is up 40. And I don't think

2:32

that Social Security is up that much. Now, the stock market's up

2:36

42%, but bonds are down 15%. So I don't

2:39

even know if portfolios are keeping up with

2:43

inflation, to be honest. And then the

2:47

article went on, this is where the disconnect

2:51

comes, is the average Social

2:54

Security paycheck is somewhere around

2:58

$1,900 a month. The average

3:01

retiree expenses are around 4800, is

3:05

what they say. The gap, the difference between those two numbers is three grand

3:09

a month. So using the rule of

3:12

four 4% distributions from your portfolio,

3:16

this is basically telling me that, like, millionaires are

3:20

having a hard time keeping up with the rising cost of inflation

3:23

because you're taking out 4% of a million dollar portfolio. That's 40 grand.

3:27

But then I also looked up what's the average savings in retirement? And it's like

3:31

the average retiree has 350 grand. So there's

3:35

a lot of disconnects here. Like, I'm sure a lot of people fall

3:38

into their expenses, but

3:43

at the end of the day, we spend what we make. That's an american way.

3:49

And when things start

3:52

escalating, 5%, 10%, 20%,

3:59

it's hard to come up with that money. So what happens is

4:02

you take, your standard

4:06

of living takes a decline, right? You can't do as many things, you

4:10

can't buy as many things, or you just sit there and rack up debt, right?

4:14

And that's not healthy either. So

4:18

this is a big problem. I don't know where. I don't know where or when

4:22

the rubber hits the road and when it becomes a crisis,

4:26

but it's a big problem. A lot of things are up. A lot of

4:30

percentage, 20% to 40% in the last three years.

4:34

And that sounds like roughly 7%

4:37

inflation every year on everything around us.

4:41

So this topic to me feels like a continuation

4:45

of the periodic stories or research you see

4:48

coming out from some of the retirement plan providers

4:52

indicating like, hey, there's a huge retirement

4:56

readiness crisis ahead of us. Right. This is kind of the next

4:59

chapter. And Tony, to your point of like, rubber hitting the road, I feel like

5:02

this is the rubber hitting the road. Like these people are

5:07

having some anxiety. There's a shortfall in

5:10

the ability to pay the monthly bills due to the inflation

5:14

increases. And now they've got to go to plan b of how are we going

5:18

to fund this. Right? So we're going back to work. So the rubber really hits

5:21

the road to me is there's, there's a silver lining here in that

5:25

it feels like it's never been easier to pick up part time income with the

5:29

gig economy and a side hustle. Like, there are a lot of ways to be

5:33

creative to get some extra income. I think where the car

5:36

breaks down, we'll go back to that analogy, is when the

5:40

willingness and the ability to actually do those things

5:44

goes away, because right as we age, our health normally, typically

5:47

starts to decline. Can we actually take on

5:51

that extra job to meet the gap?

5:55

That's when I think the car actually breaks down. And now you have an

5:58

irreparable situation. Yeah. Should we

6:02

complain for a minute about fast food prices. I was scrolling through

6:05

Twitter the other day, and over the last three and a half

6:09

years, the price of everything on the McDonald's menu is

6:13

up, like, two to 300%. Yeah. Like, I don't know

6:17

how those places stay in business, honestly. Like, we've

6:20

talked about it before. I wouldn't go to McDonald's regularly,

6:24

but, you know, maybe a couple times a month. Like, I can count on

6:28

one hand how many times I've been there in the last three years. Yeah, yeah,

6:31

but, I mean, but it's like, I miss dinner. I'm really hungry. I'm

6:35

driving by a McDonald's. I'm like, yeah, I did this a couple months ago. I

6:38

think I was. I got on. I got. I went on my get off my

6:41

lawn segment and was. I stopped. I got a

6:45

quarter pounder, and it was like, $8.

6:49

I'm like, I remember when they were given, you know, two for $4 or two

6:52

for five or something. It's like, holy cow. And then you. You

6:56

add on, like, the great service, you get along

7:00

with that increased price, and it's just a great, you know, overall value package.

7:04

So that's a great question. How are they staying in business? You told me. I

7:07

mean, they have to. To, you know, now that

7:11

everyone needs to make more money and minimum wage continues to creep

7:14

up, they gotta. They gotta increase the prices.

7:19

I mean, I understand the metrics behind it, but I don't. I don't

7:23

know. Eventually, they're just gonna be. There's gonna be three people working in there

7:26

making the food, and everything else will be a kiosk, which is transit. What

7:30

is. It's transitioning to. Yep, it really is. And, like, your mention

7:34

or your point on service, like, you almost have to, like, use the

7:38

app to put in your order because, you know, if you just tell it to

7:40

them, it's going to take, like, ten minutes, and they're probably going to mess it

7:43

up. So at least if it's in front of them, then. Then they have a.

7:46

You have a good shot. But, yeah, but before, if, you know, they didn't

7:50

put in your medium french fries in the bag, you were, you know, upset

7:54

about it, but now it's like a four dollar mistake.

7:57

You might be turning around and driving back to pick that up. Exactly.

8:01

I don't know. I saw something again, like, Twitter's.

8:05

Twitter's an interesting place, or actually, what do you want to call it? It's

8:09

like there was somebody just like, just remember what they did to us

8:13

and somebody showed, like, a receipt from Taco Bell.

8:16

Yeah, I saw that from, like, 1999 or something, and it

8:20

was like, $5. Got you, like,

8:24

seven tacos. Like, the gourmet tacos. Like, whole

8:28

bag of food, man. Yeah, like a chalupa and, you know,

8:31

mexican pizza. Get down with it.

8:35

So, yeah, it's. It's just

8:39

gotten crazy out there. It really has the $20 taco bell

8:42

orders. Just nuts. But, yeah, you know, it's something. It's

8:46

something that, you know, honestly, we haven't really had to deal much

8:50

with in the last 15 years at all.

8:54

Something we've really never talked great lengths

8:57

during financial planning meetings. Hey, you got to prepare for inflation, things

9:01

like that. So it's definitely a newer

9:05

risk. So it's something you have to plan for. And

9:09

if prices continue in this direction, hopefully the

9:12

inflation slows down a little bit here. But we really still

9:16

haven't seen price decreases.

9:20

We still see that 3.2 to

9:22

3.6% inflation rate every month, it

9:26

seems. So something that's just not going to go away. So something that we do

9:30

have to plan for and, you know, it has to. You have to adjust not

9:33

only your whole plan, but your investment strategy. You know, lots of things need to.

9:37

Need to adjust to account for that. So, I mean, so just to get back

9:40

on the food thing, I mean, do you really think that, like,

9:45

red lobster went out of business because of the endless shrimp

9:49

thing that they had? Like. Like, that's what they said. Like, hey, we had to

9:53

file bankruptcy because, like, we ate all the.

9:57

Buried us on the shrimp. I don't know. I believe it. I

10:00

mean, why don't you just get. Rid of that stupid promo? Like,

10:05

you could end it at any time or something. I don't know. It checks out.

10:08

You think so? I don't. I don't know, man. Maybe I'm.

10:12

Maybe I'm crazy. Anyway, I think they were losing money on a lot of those

10:15

tables. All right, all right.

10:19

Well, you know, inflation. Something

10:23

you definitely have to keep an eye on. As we've been talking about, if you're.

10:26

If you're doing your financial plan on your own, you got to account for it.

10:30

If you're, you know, working with your advisor

10:34

and, you know, maybe it makes sense to increase it to 4%, you

10:37

know, see how your plan reacts. Maybe that's like a what if

10:41

scenario. Yep. Maybe not a base case,

10:45

but just know that, you know, again, at the end of the

10:48

day, I talked about it on maybe one of the other shows is like,

10:52

you know, right now, 5% interest rate on cds and things

10:56

like that are great headline numbers, but they're really, at the end of the

10:59

day, you're not really chugging ahead. Nope. You know, you have to be

11:03

diversified. Unfortunately, you have to be involved in the market because

11:07

that is, at the end of the day, the ultimate inflation hedge,

11:10

historically. So, yep, excellent points

11:14

there and thanks everyone for listening this week.

11:18

As always, if you have any questions or comments or show ideas,

11:22

send us an email to info connect.com

11:25

and we'll talk to you next time. The opinions expressed

11:29

in the podcast are for general informational purposes only and are

11:33

not intended to provide specific advice or recommendations for any

11:37

investment, legal, financial or tax strategy. It is only intended

11:41

to provide education about the financial industry. Please consult a

11:44

qualified professional about your individual needs.

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