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loss. Have

1:04

you ever wished that you could relive your

1:07

college days? I mean, possibly wishes I could

1:09

because I can't remember them. They were a

1:11

fun time for the idea of diving back

1:13

into all that teenage drama and

1:15

exam stress as an adult. Those

1:18

fill me with a certain amount of horror and

1:20

I imagine most people feel the same way. So

1:23

imagine being 29 years old

1:25

and joining a college course aimed at getting

1:27

teenagers through their high school exams,

1:30

especially if you'd pass your A levels 10 years

1:33

earlier. It was definitely late

1:35

2017. I think it was November.

1:37

Just kind of a course thing

1:40

for people who didn't necessarily

1:43

complete school in the normal way, you know. She

1:46

said it's because her GCSEs expired

1:48

back in England. I'm

1:55

superkins and I'm Kat Denkenson and

1:57

you Are listening to Carrie J does not

1:59

exist. About Cost about one

2:01

woman who took on the six

2:03

different identities. Infiltrated the lives

2:06

of vulnerable people, lied her way

2:08

into gaming their trust, And.

2:10

Built up a picture perfect persona. Until

2:13

she got tangled up in our own

2:15

web of lies. This is

2:17

Episode eight: The Mitchell Student. Now.

2:21

The into the last episode we talked

2:23

about how Terry Jade was reportedly living

2:25

in smaller towns working as an A

2:27

pen and say the Harris. Well.

2:29

Since then with has some new information about

2:31

her past. Which. Has made us wants

2:33

take a deeper look and hopefully fill in some

2:36

of the blanks and a story. So.

2:38

Did the most sissy months. We've uncovered all

2:40

kinds of evidence from victims of Terry and

2:42

Six and crimes. There's. Still some

2:44

stores it's a not yet been told. Stress.

2:47

On the one that was certainly by Alex

2:49

and chance to Irishman early twenties. They

2:52

told us about their experience of dysentery

2:54

day to insist in Cook and Twenty

2:56

seventeen. And rise be done he had one

2:58

males to his house is often me. Undies

3:00

it says was to have an

3:02

unreasonable search. And speak with them as

3:04

it is as number of times. Perry Jade,

3:07

Ha, Samantha Cook, Saidi Harris, and so on.

3:09

Tend to gravitate towards women

3:11

and women spaces. And. Most

3:14

often towards mother's. So.

3:16

These relationships. Are other look

3:18

for different I think. They are the problem

3:20

us is it seems as far as last

3:22

year of older I'm supposing sniper in resets

3:24

in his other people's families and so on.

3:26

But. In this case, courage. I got to know

3:29

these men in the educational setting. So.

3:31

Paralysis can have a quick recap. Of

3:33

what was going on encourage a slight

3:35

specifically into into Seventeen so when on

3:37

new contributors get to Nova at because

3:39

we have already touched or on massive

3:41

previous episodes of my. We have, so let's

3:43

get back that. In

3:45

twenty seventeen times I was using that i

3:48

Rebecca Fitzgerald a living in some like tanning

3:50

since cook. Says Poses an Autism

3:52

therapist and visiting people skills in the hands

3:54

of my therapists. He was in no way

3:56

qualified to administer. This. Is also

3:58

assistant. That noted, Come on, What for

4:00

have the nonexistent children's clinic and sending

4:03

emails like this one? Is

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Regards with a step. Son.

4:29

To expand it to the seventeen. The people

4:31

started to get suspicious and as came to

4:33

a head when the principle of the local

4:36

school reported the book and then he was

4:38

rebecca to the car d c for tell

4:40

overnight which is ready for slice into the

4:42

people and someone who had no idea was

4:44

for the bomb. however aris of the discrepancies

4:47

and she only a few miles down the

4:49

road in the still living in county Cork

4:51

that's insane says she's to during. The big

4:53

drama fleeing the scene of a crime or said

4:55

he the scene of a of exception. But.

4:57

She's she's just basically tumbling down a

4:59

be road and be she's just didn't

5:01

really going anywhere. You say? no? That's

5:03

take it any other. In November Twenty seventeen,

5:06

Rebecca Sit swirled a role to sell for

5:08

the college about twenty two miles away from

5:10

For Moines. Issue literally dove down the road.

5:13

Of course by this point said is normally using the name of

5:15

it said. South of course so she likes to

5:17

keep the same like hell really. But he said

5:19

he the name that that the guess since. She's

5:22

obviously something about county cool.

5:24

Prequels her. I said there is

5:26

an interesting leave. Her. Name was quite

5:28

instead at this point as well. Because.

5:31

Of a suicide in earlier episodes was you changes to

5:33

just random names to be at that Some of her

5:35

name is a relate to her own known some of

5:37

them are completely made up on the spot. This

5:39

little incentive to see to some to roll

5:41

herself. As some institutes. Sushi.

5:44

Combat real name exactly Us are all this

5:46

time. All these years of running I'm interested

5:48

in and five years at this point. Constantly.

5:51

changing names, constantly getting towns,

5:53

Of. The some reason in november of

5:55

twenty seven scenes he decides is the

5:58

remove intended as cemented his it's. He.

6:00

Was it because it suited to genuinely things. At

6:02

this point is kinda be a fresh start

6:04

she's trying to get away for a moment.

6:07

She's she's twenty, kind of better herself and

6:09

and past the side over the misdemeanors of

6:11

the past. Honest. I'm not sure the

6:13

saw Alex who loves him as own that

6:15

course told me. For.

6:26

The way you know

6:28

you're research projects. Like.

6:34

Me: skeptical sorrier Procedures

6:37

daughter and she kept

6:39

our. Boy only

6:41

like two people are guilty of like have

6:43

a very small course and old us. right?

6:46

Just to clarify those, Samantha Curbs.

6:49

She's. Already got her A levels and say i mean she'd

6:51

she'd. Been to university in England, he did the

6:53

cheapest reynolds about ten years earlier and let's invest

6:55

if or year. When. A Spectral

6:57

It's a son John who was in the same

6:59

class with them. He told me this unanswered explain

7:01

this is a purpose all little story. Afterwards.

7:11

Was. Nice to me.

7:13

The Dccc. Expire. I went to

7:15

start panic say than until must update them.

7:18

It stretches the bounds of credibility. does anyone

7:20

with with police out that at the same

7:22

time you know. We. Have different for example,

7:24

school and systems to people in Scotland which is

7:26

in the United Kingdom. So it's not entirely beyond

7:28

the bounds that in a for an Irish person

7:31

they might think so. Yeah, well, maybe meeting the

7:33

they do just. In. That's. Listen.

7:35

To him and overseas details most of his

7:38

that easy seized and spice. But some

7:40

other latest did ask any further questions List

7:42

does as Alex pointed out, Ellison the citrusy,

7:44

younger than her. How. Old is he

7:46

says he was. Twenty ninth.

7:51

Or especially with the oldest person on the

7:54

course. of

7:57

a taste so she was enrolled in college

8:00

But how was she living at this point? What

8:02

do we know about the wider picture? Does she

8:04

have a job? Well, this is why it gets interesting,

8:07

because she told Alex that she worked for the cleaner

8:09

and she'd rented a little flat somewhere north of the

8:11

city. However, in reality, she'd

8:13

actually rented a three-bedroom house, and John actually

8:15

visited her there on one occasion. Oh, I

8:17

was shocked to see that there was absolutely no furniture

8:19

in the house. So is it just a bare bones

8:21

house? I mean, there's no couch, no table. I'm

8:24

guessing if you went upstairs, there'd probably just be

8:26

a mattress on the floor. Absolutely nothing in the

8:28

house. Was it actually you going round to her

8:30

house then as a 17-year-old, knowing that she's 29? In

8:35

a sense, it was a bit of a weird one,

8:37

but I didn't really hesitate

8:39

because I thought, what's the worst that could happen?

8:42

Hang on a second. I mean, again, this compulsive lying's

8:44

come to the fore, because she said to one

8:46

of the guys, she's got this one bed, and

8:49

then they visit and she's in the

8:51

three-bedroom house as a big, big

8:54

gaff. So these guys know each other,

8:56

don't they? Alex and John have known each other

8:58

since college for like seven years. So it

9:00

kind of stands to the compulsive lying aspects

9:02

with it. Alex asks her where she lived,

9:04

and she immediately comes up with, oh, I've got a little

9:06

flat somewhere in the city. I've got a little place to live in.

9:09

But then later, when John was going to come round to her house,

9:12

I guess she had to suddenly tell him the truth, because

9:14

you've got a flat and having to turn up to a three-bed

9:16

house. It's since with the strange

9:18

patterns she has of lying on the spot

9:20

and not really thinking about the consequences, the idea that at

9:22

some point she's going to have to have somebody around the

9:24

house isn't there in her head when she

9:26

tells Alex to lie. But there isn't even a consistent narrative

9:28

within a group. You know, she's got two kids

9:31

who know each other, and she's saying completely different

9:33

things to each one of them. So it's

9:36

fascinating. She lies like she breathes, you

9:38

know, it's a reflex. So she also

9:41

says that she's a cleaner. What do we know about that?

9:43

In terms of this cleaning job, honestly, I don't know if it

9:45

was any more real than anything else she told them, especially

9:48

considering some of the stories she told them about it,

9:50

as Alex shared with me. She said

9:52

she was working nights at a kind of

9:54

student accommodation place, and she's saying that she's

9:57

basically a cleaner and thought, you

9:59

know, when she'd offer that often tell

10:01

very interesting stories about

10:04

stuff that happened. Like she'd say, we

10:06

actually rented out a room to a

10:08

group of travelers recently. She's saying, oh,

10:10

they ripped the bathroom apart and they

10:12

stole all the copper pipes out

10:14

of the bathroom. Oh, she said another

10:17

sign that she painted because someone improperly

10:19

labeled some cleaning chemicals. That's another one

10:21

I remember now. She said that she

10:24

was cleaning and she called herself to

10:26

base. So she's still

10:28

telling these very overblown, very

10:31

traumatic stories. It's

10:33

not exactly blending into the background, is

10:35

it? How did Alex and his friends

10:37

react to all that? It's just that they

10:39

didn't really challenge her. In Alex's words, she

10:41

was really believable. I think because

10:43

of the age gap, they didn't want to challenge her

10:46

as well. She's the adult. So in that social situation,

10:48

she has power just by being 12 years older

10:50

than them. And also, I think some

10:52

of the stories she was telling them, considering their age, they

10:54

were quite heavy. She said that her

10:56

daughter died because of a childhood vaccine, that it

10:58

was medical malpractice. And she said that there was

11:01

a doctor in the UK who were saying she

11:03

was mentally ill and was trying to have her

11:05

committed, you know, she was saying that there are

11:07

so many other women that she was telling us

11:09

how there's going to be this big court case

11:11

in Brussels against this doctor based

11:14

in the UK. So hang on,

11:16

she's telling her 17 year old friends that

11:18

her daughter died from a childhood

11:20

vaccine and then

11:23

that the doctor tried to have her committed.

11:25

I mean, there's so much to unpick there,

11:27

I sort of don't even know where to

11:29

begin. It's awful. It's awful, isn't it?

11:31

Because there are elements of it that

11:33

connect to sort of truth. Obviously, her daughter died,

11:35

but she wants to find an external reason for

11:37

it. And she is mentally

11:39

unwell, it's fair to say. But

11:42

she's then placing the blame onto the medical profession who

11:44

are then trying to encroach on her and you know,

11:46

and have her committed. It is it's

11:49

very, very telling, considering what we now know about

11:51

her. I mean, unlike, you know,

11:53

unlike all the conversations she's had with all the

11:55

mothers she met where she said truthfully in her baby

11:57

mastoiditis in her infancy, that's how many

11:59

months For some reason she told

12:01

these guys that Martha lived till she was two or three

12:03

and it was a child infacting that killed her. But

12:06

as you say, there is the element of

12:08

truth there because the child still died unfortunately.

12:11

And in terms of the doctor having her committed, I

12:13

mean that fits with her story of going to

12:15

Ireland as well because she fled so they couldn't

12:17

take a child. So mental health services

12:20

were involved at that point on the level. We don't

12:22

know what their involvement was, whether

12:24

they were planning on having her sectioned, she's

12:27

obviously got that as an experience somewhere in her

12:29

life I suspect. It's also interesting and

12:31

very sad to me that even in her fantastical

12:33

world the child still dies. Her need for drama,

12:35

I think she wants her trauma acknowledged. So

12:38

she can't almost have a happy ever after story

12:40

even in her fantasy life because

12:42

what she wants is someone to go, I'm really

12:44

sorry. I'm really sorry you've suffered this, I'm really

12:46

sorry you've gone through all this trauma. In

12:50

all of these fake narratives there's always

12:52

a detail that is utterly...

12:56

it has the hallmark of complete unbelievably. It's

12:58

the part about the pregnant women in

13:01

Brussels, I'm guessing that never happened. Honestly

13:03

I don't know for sure but I've been unable to find

13:05

anything that relates to it directly. I mean given her latest

13:07

stories about being born in the mother of baby home, you

13:10

know what we know of those atrocities, there are cases where

13:12

people in Ireland have tried to sue the Irish

13:14

government but they've offered them a lot more

13:16

recently, they've all happened within the last three years. There's

13:19

nothing anywhere really that relates to this or could

13:21

possibly be what she's basing it on. I think

13:24

she's just pushed it that bit too far as usual. There's

13:26

always a foreign element to the story isn't

13:28

there, there's Brussels, there's Texas, there's always something

13:31

far flung and exotic. Yeah something that you

13:33

can't trace. So how long was she at

13:35

college with these guys? She was on this

13:37

pretty much the whole college year. She was there

13:39

from November 2017 to June 2018 and

13:43

that fits in the timeline between her leaving Samoy

13:45

and then rocking up in Calcivir in 2019. Obviously

13:48

there's slight gaps at the end of 2018. So

13:51

did they spend a lot of time with her? Were they good mates

13:53

or would she just another face, another body

13:55

in the classroom? This is also quite

13:57

interesting again given the age difference. Just

14:00

hours hanging out with them after classes, walking

14:02

around town and settles. She's I almost

14:05

always go after lunch after as a

14:07

soldier know it was an early finish.

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sometimes we try out for like five

14:19

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14:21

time where we're just chatting. With.

14:23

The Galaxy with a chance to bounce. I mean,

14:25

this is what he told them. a different story

14:27

about a child. The

14:29

was about her, the stories with a. When. He

14:31

told the same to the things into announced the leading

14:33

senses. One source

14:35

told them about be willing to church. still

14:38

don't know since with her. Yeah. And

14:40

she claims to it's is providing nothing. He's another

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since like amazon's had been fighting herself. And

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know. Her plan was to ask, talk

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18:17

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18:19

Distance Seem like she was trying

18:21

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18:27

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18:29

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18:31

them in some way see was the old

18:33

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18:36

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18:39

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18:41

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can see how much nice as a compelling that the to

19:35

me to do want isn't we need is. It.

19:38

All blows up to this. I mean, she didn't need. The qualifications

19:40

he was trying to earn that college. So what was

19:42

the ups he was? It was. It just a

19:44

friendship gathering exercise. Was it's we embedding as often

19:46

as a. Community. Also, don't now

19:48

only those assassin it's partly wanting to

19:50

pass a group be accepted. The helpful

19:52

of this mother had character. But.

19:55

I'm in. Ultimately that behavior is what led to

19:57

had done for the situation as well. So

20:00

I'm assuming that they lending the thousand euros wasn't the

20:02

down for the this a sadistic in the tales this.

20:05

There is size not sound out. The Alex is

20:07

a big reader and is a huge meal. Davidson.

20:10

And. In May twenty eight see Lila sit at a

20:12

book reading and funny about in Dublin. says.

20:14

And other told al Aqsa look at twenty pixels

20:16

off and see it also to wealth. Go.

20:24

After shows. Like

20:38

ah now this is. Interesting.

20:40

And as you know, another

20:43

dimension here because Samantha has

20:45

firmly embedded herself. In

20:47

the role of era as doses of

20:49

the Sleep with the children just gonna

20:51

take them a whim trip. she's going

20:53

to look after them she said to

20:55

be the therapist that's part of regular

20:57

M Eyes. But. In this case,

21:00

the Cfc follow through this case a seat

21:02

actually providing the things the supremacists. Unfortunately,

21:04

not so noticed.

21:06

Expect said he described as a Canadian

21:08

citizen. Under Siege just as disabled.

21:11

So. Despite all this and that he sang don't worry about the

21:13

bus tickets. I get from travel she insisted.

21:15

On getting the tickets on of the pot

21:17

missing constantly throughout the series. Pissed at him

21:20

completely. Oh no, I can't see

21:22

pictures of the waiting on the

21:24

platform assist. Oh just realizing

21:26

she sees going to do something

21:28

different. She. Spent all that time

21:31

getting to know the sky. And

21:33

then she does that. Wow. Okay, so how does

21:35

it row? Oh on the day before

21:37

the that in Alex lighting messaging her baffled all day

21:39

but it's has to come sit on his tickets in

21:41

it. Where are you? are we ready yet? What's going

21:43

on? And. He with it does on

21:45

suffering quite Aussie with anxiety because of them. Have

21:48

been at this point his parents that to do they realize

21:50

the a sex. It's as having. And I

21:52

got involved label time to Concepts and find out.

21:55

That. The to know they'll completely. See. It

21:57

was once his those investments with as the me this

21:59

is. Tell me about it. For

22:01

a bargain. Come out of here and okay I

22:03

was like a golfer to like I had eleven

22:06

at night. like I was hearing nothing. I

22:08

went to the issue of course she didn't

22:10

show up and the best as a go

22:12

to the show anyway when my father we

22:14

drove off like but she'd probably be pulled

22:16

me over and I you know she likes

22:18

giving people like skipping school like false hope

22:20

like I think. maybe I know, maybe she

22:23

enjoys that or something. Say

22:25

it's really nice. Simply point

22:27

is summed up Some On

22:29

to them. And

22:32

is awful. It's awful because he is. Ah

22:35

I knew I can anxiety pills like

22:37

ends in a dissing internet see but

22:39

need and planet and specially he knew

22:42

as a young person and really feel

22:44

for him. Leaders. are

22:46

no experience someplace Facility was adults who been

22:48

disappointed we met people the do the source

22:50

and does not appear you a see somebody.

22:52

Who he turns up as the fairy godmother you

22:55

know, and and of his to him or would

22:57

have been more than just seeing his idol. But

22:59

it's coming into Dublin, it's going to the big

23:01

snow. didn't mean it's like. Sit ups, The

23:03

disease itself, freedoms, that taste of freedom of

23:05

that sounds simple. said he didn't see most

23:08

on the road. It messes. Missile.

23:10

Mrs. Experiences. Money The

23:12

steam when we know it's a scene with her for the

23:14

seals or for the jobs of sense illnesses. Know.

23:17

He has He told me though i think that

23:19

you job in the student who for and cleaning

23:22

attitude of deception and he still has the to

23:24

analyze it even as she was working in the

23:26

student who's this point in his his old. Smoke

23:28

and mirrors and. Whatever. Dramas

23:31

has created today. To say to

23:33

me that I could do a. Job

23:35

or time if I want us.

23:40

To help us move. On, but associate out.

23:43

Anyway Wallace was going on with the book signing.

23:45

still I'll it's his muscles was put into this

23:47

together you the seat of his the synod with

23:49

Alex and quite a both to the slices scene

23:51

and for be heard. From him there is

23:53

things since and promised a not done. Since.

23:56

He had enough of this is Not a dude

23:58

lives in Institutes and and. Articles about have

24:00

been convicted fraudster Well that's what happens when you

24:03

use your real name. I'm.

24:05

At this point you frigate session she just

24:07

shy the ones to be sounds. Oh

24:09

she just thinks it's funny. I think so

24:12

I do want either have ensued always that so

24:14

many times and point says, essentially given a free

24:16

pass to keep going. so why the heck wouldn't

24:18

it. Says I mean obviously at

24:20

this point is I just others take into this

24:22

book signing and everything was that is that the

24:25

following Monday he then successful that his mother Sansa

24:27

College unsaid is tutors said hey you know all.

24:29

Customers can be to foodstuff. That is

24:31

a ballsy move thus rates really good

24:33

Really good. Boundaries are just going straight

24:35

to the top the train going. This

24:38

is what's happening as brilliant. Insisted he

24:40

does. He said the colleges reaction was to

24:42

tell them to keep it quiet. Oh noes.

24:45

That. This point to join them under the real. Name to

24:47

Missouri defrauded the college anyway. So.

24:49

Than others the could not see. Don't legally to go

24:51

anyway. See. This of as opposed to the

24:54

someone else or Castilla money away obvious. And

24:56

it is coming to the end. To. This palace. And so

24:58

they just wanted to brussel under the rug. They.

25:01

Did ask not the names. Actually in the

25:03

stem cells to police themselves. The said that. Yeah,

25:05

and since do that, Saw. Cichlids

25:07

will discuss it. Happen? perhaps. Yeah, I

25:10

understand the nails. Understand to be fest

25:12

them that it's a nuanced situation. Because

25:15

really in the eyes of the law which them

25:17

says promised taken some on the she hasn't. A

25:20

it's to swim looking at at this through

25:22

the lens else. Power Dynamics? You know she's

25:24

older than him. He. Identifies

25:28

as being on the autistic spectrum and

25:30

is registered with a disability. She has

25:32

all the power and that's what makes

25:34

this is obese had situation. But.

25:36

I can see that the punishment keep their head down. Those.

25:39

Are the space of time and time again

25:41

which he operates the spaces west The law

25:44

can't quite reads. And west

25:46

social convention on quite reach in at all

25:48

those sorts of things. Are.

25:50

Locals Interestingly was the college told Alex to

25:52

don't have anybody to seventeen so humidity. but

25:54

that totalled his nights a week. Good because

25:56

it has to stop somewhere into certain that

25:58

yeah, he walked into. The day before the system

26:01

sleep us as receptionist and we went to them first

26:03

and then caught up with his classmates. I

26:05

mean, she was technically still in Tulsa them at this point

26:07

as well for their own exam lead. so they saw each

26:09

other. for exams, but not really an

26:11

interest day by day here, but. Wasn't

26:13

as soon as Alec said he didn't confront her about

26:15

said in that he wanted to let out a pseudo

26:18

forget see happened. Zone did come from

26:20

Hello and this is what you said have country brought

26:22

in. My sense is that. Where.

26:40

We told her. Ah,

26:44

that. Are. Thought. To.

26:54

Any of us. Over.

27:01

He. Says to me like a says

27:03

he's confronted she's disassociate can immediately this

27:05

no emotional response of panic a than

27:08

rumbles. It's me and it

27:10

has the next season. To the next thing.

27:12

It's. It's certainly so odds me as well as

27:14

she was authentic she was then says she was

27:17

even embarrassed for okay you sound the same next.

27:19

Mean. In the long term planning again see

27:21

isn't there because she would realize the most

27:24

people would realize that the our school talked

27:26

about her soil from the west at all

27:28

actually died which doesn't sit with the story

27:30

sold them but that doesn't espresso in her

27:32

had either. it's literally just. Brushed.

27:34

Off the soldiers me up onto the

27:36

next lavish is planning so. Awkward

27:38

situation by all accounts although I guess

27:41

one scene is that the game is

27:43

up she just with rules and funds

27:45

to see move what's what what happens

27:47

at the and the school year from.

27:50

What? and tell us the year ended You

27:52

know they also lost touch and some point

27:54

see mister moved on to her neck. So

27:56

cases and we know the kids are defrauded

27:58

by a thankfully no the most money Allison

28:00

don't forget that you know should happen to

28:02

get those is really odd. Personally I trust

28:04

that one year so they instill moments. I

28:06

think this because it's it's in the between place.

28:08

You know that she's not. She's gone by to

28:10

have real identity. And. Yet, there's

28:13

nothing real about the way she

28:15

presents herself. Still, I'm misrepresenting lying,

28:17

cunning people on a personal level.

28:20

Pessimists a cease easy accesses of recuperation

28:22

space before she goes on to the

28:24

next big thing in the next. the

28:26

next year the change of name and

28:28

change of location. Sees. Herself

28:30

up as herself, insistently. Which.

28:33

Toys and sorry strangely when you think that

28:35

to the very beginning of this. Podcast.

28:38

Was. He was saying. I didn't

28:41

commit as crimes that wasn't meatless. My sister.

28:43

In. The store is just signed up as they

28:46

turned up and. The. Links out there in her

28:48

head of that think. It has a cast

28:50

to of how story A connects the story be

28:52

your canucks that and knows his told anybody ever.

28:54

This. This going back to school thing is

28:57

that it is is that a familiar tropes

28:59

and dumbass pool. he. Has it's rare remains

29:01

lots of stories about in an adult posing

29:03

as other adults. And defrauding each other. This

29:05

is always seen hundreds of some. Of

29:07

the receive stories about adults posing as

29:10

teenagers go back to school for various

29:12

reasons. With. A very read his

29:14

battle very often. And. They use it

29:16

a result of some or. Other mental the songs and.

29:19

I think this is the only store your family

29:21

have adult them back to school as an adult

29:23

to get a confession. Have already gone and hanging

29:25

out with teenagers so. Remind.

29:28

Us because we've we've had

29:30

this bonus episode basically which

29:32

which pieces he fills in

29:34

in some of the blinds

29:36

but reminders were Samantha goes.

29:38

Next. Is he doing folders

29:40

involved in the hundred and seventeen? Having

29:43

such turmoil. See. Then less

29:45

college in full in June twenty a

29:47

scene and the next, I have authors

29:49

when she turned up in classes in.

29:52

In two thousand and nineteen. So.

29:54

We've got roughly a year between were

29:56

not so was undermined this and Twenty nineteen

29:58

what's the name she'd seizing. What's the

30:00

next? thing? Twenty nine See this

30:03

interesting because having gone from being nanny

30:05

to appear tonight so the past herself

30:07

in college. Citizens. Also

30:09

the the courage I will in the writer and

30:11

that some the whole thing starts. Very.

30:13

Useful and wonderful to get that missing

30:15

year actually. And of the more we

30:17

know, the more comprehensive picture we can

30:19

build. So is he A stories if

30:21

he's had any meetings or interactions with

30:23

Samantha in any of her guys is

30:25

the new concept to get in touch.

30:27

Cast as it passes. Do that. You

30:29

to Samuel is to bombers seat and

30:32

droits de Famille Switzerland at the same

30:34

name only to email me directly hasn't

30:36

and concern up for some mail. Dot.

30:38

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30:40

you for listening cup as ever,

30:42

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30:45

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30:47

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30:50

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30:52

as an oldie always of internal production has to

30:54

buy. Me see Perkins and Cousins Uncles and

30:56

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30:58

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31:00

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31:02

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31:04

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