Freddy Martinez talks to Matt about growing up in Virginia after moving to the US from Panama, what it was like to learn English, and how tight he was with his mother. He eventually joined the Navy, and ultimately met his wife, Mary, who was stationed at a nearby Army base.

Colonel Mary Martinez joins the chat to talk about her military career, and being deployed when their kids were young, but how those sacrifices and hard work have cemented their future.

Freddy and Mary are big Buffalo Bills fans, so we talk about that as well - how a kid from Panama who grew up in Virginia started following a football team from Buffalo, NY.

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