My Gen reporter Christian Allen chats with Reverend David Gray, well known across Manchester and in particular East Manchester.
David is an award winning Franciscan whose mentors range from great apes to saints; homeless people to rock stars.
This podcast focuses on his role at Belle Vue Zoological Gardens - where David was a Great Ape Keeper.
He is now also a personal and community wellbeing consultant and Salford City Radio host.
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