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2:07

have a lot of news to cover on

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cleanup today, including D.A. Fonney Willis seeking to

2:11

dismiss Trump's appeal over the decision not to

2:13

remove her from the case, a Trump

2:16

lawyer stripped from a judicial advisory

2:18

commission in Wisconsin, and

2:20

a voter data breach co-conspirator in

2:22

Michigan has flipped on poor

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too bad. Stephanie Lambert, what

2:30

a weird story. I

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Mace is under investigation at the House

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what the DOJ was originally looking

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Hey, Pete, where

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should we start today? Let's

3:55

go down to Georgia and Fulton County

3:57

where Fonny Willis is trying to dismiss

3:59

the the appeal of Judge McAfee's ruling that

4:01

she can stay on the case if Nathan

4:04

Wade stepped aside, which he did. This

4:06

is from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. In

4:09

a motion, prosecutor Donald Wakeford said

4:12

the appeal should be rejected because

4:14

it was, quote, improvidently granted due

4:16

to the lack of sufficient evidence,

4:18

unquote. Moreover, in his March 15

4:21

order allowing Willis to remain

4:23

on the case, Superior Court Judge Scott

4:25

McAfee made what were called, explicit

4:28

factual findings to support his decision

4:30

and which cannot be disturbed by

4:32

an appellate court unless they were

4:35

flatly incorrect, Wakefield wrote. The

4:38

Georgia Court of Appeals decision on May

4:40

8 to hear the case all but

4:42

stop court proceedings involving Trump and the

4:44

eight other defendants who joined the challenge.

4:47

Court cemented that by recently staying

4:49

proceedings against all those nine defendants.

4:52

The Willis saga began in January when

4:54

a lawyer for defendant Mike Roman, a

4:56

former Trump campaign official, filed a

4:58

motion contending Willis in her office should

5:00

be disqualified because of her romantic involvement

5:03

with Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor

5:05

she had appointed. Her office

5:07

had paid Wade more than $700,000 in

5:09

legal fees. The defense motion

5:11

said Willis was benefiting financially from the case

5:13

because Wade had paid for their trips to

5:16

the Caribbean and Napa Valley. Other

5:18

defense motions followed saying Willis should

5:20

be disqualified for giving highly prejudicial

5:22

and inappropriate remarks during a church

5:24

speech on Dr. Martin Luther King

5:26

weekend. McAfee determined

5:28

that while Willis had a lapse in

5:31

judgment and made bad decisions, her conduct

5:33

did not amount to a disqualifying conflict

5:35

of interest. Instead, there was

5:37

the appearance of a conflict that required

5:39

either Willis's or Wade's removal from the

5:41

case. That same day, Wade withdrew.

5:45

Yeah, and it seems like perhaps

5:48

if Wade didn't withdraw, then an

5:50

appeal would be appropriate here.

5:55

But I think what Willis is getting at,

5:58

or at least what I'm, for my own opinion, understanding of the

6:00

DA's filing is that, hey, we

6:02

remedied the problem. There's

6:04

nothing to appeal. So in his

6:07

motion Wednesday, Wakeford said that

6:09

after holding a multi-day hearing, McAfee determined

6:11

the evidence didn't support the defense claims

6:13

that Willis financially benefited from the case.

6:16

So that's not an issue. McAfee's

6:19

quote, Frank appraisal of the DA's testimony

6:22

was that it withstood scrutiny and

6:24

the judge accepted her explanations that she

6:26

split the costs of the vacations with

6:28

Wade by reimbursing him with cash. And

6:32

I get all that, but

6:34

I think probably the point of

6:36

an appeal is that what

6:39

Trump is trying to say or Trump and his

6:41

co-defendants are trying to say is the

6:43

judge's ruling was wrong. There

6:46

was impropriety. She didn't reimburse

6:48

him, you know, something like that. But

6:51

I think that the evidence is kind of clear here.

6:53

We'll see what happens. And

6:56

like you said, in his order, the judge said

6:59

that the odor of a mendacity

7:01

remains, but the DA

7:03

argues that that was remedied

7:06

when Wade stepped aside. McAfee

7:08

also found Willis's remarks during her church

7:11

speech were legally improper. But

7:13

Wakeford noted that the judge found that the remarks did

7:16

not cross the line because Willis did not name

7:18

a defendant, did not disclose

7:20

confidential information, and did

7:22

not address the merits of the case to

7:25

the public. So because there's

7:27

no grounds for the appeals court to reverse

7:29

McAfee's decision, there's no reason for the court

7:31

to hear the appeal. That's what Wakeford is contending

7:33

from the DA's office. In a

7:36

statement, Trump's lead attorney, Steve Sadow, criticized

7:38

the DA's request, calling it, quote,

7:41

a last ditch effort to stop any

7:43

appellate review of DA Willis's

7:46

misconduct. And that's really telling,

7:48

because an appellate review shouldn't

7:51

be over Willis's,

7:53

quote, unquote, misconduct.

7:56

An appellate review should be over a judge's

7:58

decision. So

8:01

the issue is now pending before judges

8:03

Trenton Brown, Todd Markle, and

8:05

Benjamin Land, although it's possible the

8:07

full court could eventually weigh in on the

8:09

motion. So what

8:12

do you think of this and what do you think of Nathan

8:15

Wade agreeing to do an interview

8:17

on sit down one on one

8:19

interview with Caitlin Collins? Well, the last

8:21

thing, don't talk. I don't

8:23

care if you're Nathan Wade or Michael Cohen

8:25

or Stormy Daniels. If you are involved in

8:27

pending in any way as a witness, as

8:29

a prosecutor, if you're involved in pending litigation,

8:32

the best advice that 99.99% of attorneys

8:34

out there won't recommend to

8:37

you is don't talk. Don't give

8:39

an interview. Don't say anything because the

8:42

chances of saying something which can

8:44

be used in an adverse way

8:46

or against you, or you might

8:49

misspeak or get some facts

8:51

wrong or missremember something, are just too

8:53

many spots that you can get a

8:55

case in trouble. And so I wish,

8:57

look, I get his impulse.

9:00

I get the desire to say, hey, this is

9:02

all nonsense. And Fonny Willis did

9:04

nothing wrong. And our business

9:06

is our personal business. And

9:08

I get that. I understand that. But it's one

9:11

of those circumstances where you get out of this.

9:13

She's still leading the prosecution. Bite

9:17

your tongue. Bite your tongue as long as

9:19

it takes. And it may take, unfortunately, a

9:21

long time. But at

9:23

least watching that and reading some of the

9:25

analysis of what he said, particularly from good

9:29

attorneys covering the Atlanta and Georgia legal

9:31

scene, that he didn't make any horrible

9:33

missteps. But man, oh man, you don't

9:35

need to put yourself in that position,

9:37

in my opinion. And this motion, I

9:39

don't know. Whether

9:43

or not, whatever that three-judge panel says, whoever's

9:45

on the losing side, I am willing to

9:47

bet we'll ask for the full court to

9:49

weigh in. I don't know the timetable and

9:51

how long that'll take. And

9:53

whether they remand it and say, or

9:55

no, there's nothing here. But it's clear.

10:00

I don't think so much or read so much

10:02

about the words that the Trump attorneys put on

10:04

paper so much as the things

10:06

that they're doing just to slow it down.

10:08

It may be completely without merit, but

10:11

it can be filed and have

10:14

a hearing heard. And

10:16

so that's what they're doing, just to try and kick this down

10:18

the road, keep all of this evidence

10:20

and the trial out of the public awareness

10:22

until after the election at a minimum. Yeah,

10:26

and I think it was Tamara Hallerman

10:28

for Atlanta Journal Constitution who said that

10:31

there's a limited time for the appellate

10:33

court to review cases. In Georgia,

10:35

they have two terms to do it, which

10:38

means they have until March of 2025

10:42

to decide this case. And it's one of

10:44

the busiest dockets in the nation. 2,500

10:48

cases a year, I believe, is what she

10:50

quoted. And of course, this is off the top

10:52

of my head. If I'm misquoting anything, please write

10:54

into us and let us know, send

10:56

us a correction. But I

10:59

don't see, hats off

11:01

to the DA's office for filing

11:03

this motion to dismiss the appeal. You

11:05

kind of have to, it makes sense.

11:08

But I don't think the appellate

11:10

court would have granted the

11:12

certificate of appeal, nor

11:14

do I think McAfee would have granted the

11:17

certificate of appeal to go to the appeals

11:19

court. And like I said, I don't

11:21

think the appellate court would have taken the case if

11:23

they thought that it

11:26

wasn't an appealable case to be heard. So

11:29

I think it will take

11:31

a long time. I don't think it, it might not

11:33

take until the outside date of

11:36

March 25th, but for

11:38

sure, this case isn't going anywhere

11:41

close to trial until next year, well

11:43

after the election. So again,

11:46

I understand the idea behind

11:49

the motion, and it's really well written, and

11:52

it makes sense to me, but I'm

11:54

not sure they're gonna be successful on it. Yeah,

11:57

I don't either, I just again, success

11:59

is. is in some contexts, success

12:02

is just slowing things down. Success

12:04

is pouring sand in the gears.

12:06

And from that angle,

12:08

from that perspective, this is

12:11

not a waste of effort on Trump's

12:13

part to just grind

12:16

things to a halt, like he's doing in

12:18

Florida, like he's doing in DC, like

12:20

he tried to do in Manhattan. And

12:24

attention, Michigan, Arizona,

12:26

Wisconsin. Mike

12:29

Roman is watching you. So

12:31

be careful. That's

12:33

all I'm saying. Just

12:36

like he is watching you. He

12:38

is a dirt digger, you know,

12:40

like he is a bad dude. He's

12:43

got PIs. He will, if you have done,

12:45

if in 1986, you said, you

12:50

called your mom the B word, he will find out

12:54

and he will bring a case against you. So just, you

12:57

know, be aware Mike Roman is

12:59

watching you on behalf of Donald Trump and all

13:01

of his co-defendants. All right, we

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You'll recall there was a

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voter data breach case there, separate from

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the fraudulent elector case, and

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separate from the

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voter machine breach. So

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there's a lot going on, but the voter

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data breach involved the two Stephanys, right? Trump

17:18

world lawyer, Stephanie Lambert, and

17:20

the township clerk, Stephanie Scott. Now

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as a reminder, Stephanie Lambert had to

17:25

have a bench warrant issued for her

17:28

arrest, because she failed to appear

17:30

at a hearing in Michigan, but she

17:32

was nabbed by the US Marshals in

17:34

DC in court, where she made an

17:36

appearance to represent the former

17:38

overstock CEO, and Maria

17:41

Butina honeypot fly Patrick

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Byrne. So- How

17:46

does that, if you're sitting in court, and you've got

17:48

to go through the procedural motions, and you're sitting there,

17:50

and you're done, and the judge all rise, the judge

17:52

walks out, and you're getting ready, you're walking out of

17:54

the court with your attorney, and you're getting ready to

17:56

ask him a couple of questions, all of a sudden

17:58

the Marshals come up and put the- grabs on them.

18:02

I can't get my head

18:04

around this. Well, there is a

18:07

dearth of lawyers in

18:09

Trump world right now. They've all got their

18:11

licenses suspended, most of

18:14

them at least. And there just

18:16

aren't that many. Stanley Woodward has like

18:18

900 clients right now, including

18:21

many capital insurrectionists

18:24

and of course, Waltin

18:26

Nouda and multiple

18:28

other people. Pete Navarro is

18:31

one of his clients. So he's probably too

18:33

busy to do this. Would

18:36

you say it is the opposite of a

18:38

plethora? You

18:40

do not have a plethora of attorneys

18:43

in Trump world. No,

18:46

yes, it's the opposite of a

18:49

plethora. See, half a... Anytime we can

18:51

bring... It's the opposite. It is a

18:53

dearth. Anytime we can

18:56

bring the three amigos into the discussion,

18:58

it's always a win. It's always a

19:01

win. It's a sweater. Okay. There's

19:04

also a guy in this saga named

19:06

Ben Cotton, who was

19:08

a so-called election fraud expert that

19:11

investigated fraud on behalf of Trump

19:13

in several states. Well,

19:15

he's been granted immunity to

19:17

spill the beans on Stephanie Lambert and

19:20

Stephanie Scott. And this is

19:22

from Detroit News. Cotton, who was

19:24

described in court as a

19:26

Montana resident, was present

19:28

Wednesday morning inside the building that

19:30

houses Hillsdale County's district courtroom as

19:33

preliminary examinations for attorney Stephanie Lambert

19:36

and former Adams Township clerk Stephanie Scott

19:38

were scheduled to take place. He's

19:41

here, said Richard Cunningham

19:43

of Michigan Attorney General's office about

19:47

Cotton at one point, pointing

19:49

at him. He's in this building right now. However,

19:52

Cotton did not end up testifying Wednesday

19:54

after Judge Megan Stiverson delayed the

19:57

preliminary exam to consider a series

19:59

of arguments. including a motion to

20:01

quash the charges from lawyer

20:03

Dan Hartman, who's representing Lambert and Scott.

20:06

So this is a big tangled web.

20:09

Yeah. And so starting with

20:11

Cotton, Cotton analyzed voting data or equipment

20:13

in Michigan, Georgia and Arizona. And it

20:16

was a prominent figure in a movement

20:18

that spread conspiracy theories about the 2020

20:20

presidential election. Michigan Attorney

20:23

General Dana Nessel announced

20:25

in May that her office was

20:27

charging Lambert with three felonies and

20:29

Scott with five felonies after Lambert

20:31

allegedly transmitted data from the Adams

20:33

Township electronic poll book, which features

20:36

personal information on eligible voters doing

20:39

that under Scott's direction. Lambert

20:41

provided the data to Cotton so he

20:43

could conduct a quote unquote examination, Nessel's

20:46

office has said. Hartman

20:48

has described Cotton as an

20:51

investigator, an expert who was

20:53

working with Lambert, quote, he's still a trusted

20:55

member of the defense team, unquote Hartman said

20:57

a cotton according to a transcript of a

20:59

hearing that occurred last week. So

21:02

he's part of the crazy times carnival audit in

21:04

Arizona. Yes. And this guy? Right. The

21:06

gang that couldn't shoot straight. Cotton's testimony

21:08

could be key for prosecutors in the

21:11

Hillsdale County cases, but he could also

21:13

play a role in separate charges brought

21:15

by a special prosecutor in Oakland County,

21:18

also in Michigan. In Oakland County,

21:21

Lambert also in plus

21:24

former Attorney General candidate Matt DiPurno

21:26

and former state, Matt DiPurno. DiPurno

21:29

is one of these, again, the

21:31

gang that could not shoot straight

21:33

and former state representative Darr Rendon

21:36

faced criminal charges for allegedly being part

21:38

of a scheme to gain improper access

21:41

to voting machines used in the 2020

21:43

election and have experts

21:45

to include Cotton analyze the equipment.

21:48

At a hearing last week, according to a

21:50

transcript, Cunningham said he saw, quote, no basis

21:53

for criminal charges, unquote against Cotton. But Cotton's

21:55

lawyer had indicated if called as a

21:57

witness, he would cite the fifth amendment in

21:59

exercise. his right to remain silent.

22:02

Now, granting immunity to Cotton would prevent him

22:04

from using the Fifth Amendment as protection, Cunningham

22:07

said, according to the transcript, which is common.

22:09

You grant somebody immunity so that you can

22:11

compel them to provide testimony, and it can't

22:13

be used against them, but you can compel

22:15

them to show up in the grand jury

22:18

or the Michigan State equivalent of that to

22:20

provide testimony. Now,

22:22

the preliminary exams for Lambert

22:24

and Scott, coming up soon,

22:26

less than a month, beginning on July 11th.

22:30

Oh, July 11th. That'll be

22:32

a fun day. That's sentencing for

22:34

Donald Trump. Just

22:37

four days before the RNC, and I'll

22:39

be live with, I think,

22:41

Dana and Andy McCabe in Seattle.

22:44

Nice. It'll be a fun day. And we'll

22:46

probably also, at that point, have a inmate

22:48

number for Steven Bannon as well.

22:51

Yeah. We're going to talk about his fun trip. He

22:53

doesn't get to stay at Club Fed. We'll talk about

22:55

that a little bit later in the show. Walk

22:58

me through this. If somebody pleads

23:02

the Fifth and

23:04

then is given immunity and

23:06

then still won't give

23:10

the information you know they

23:12

have, what happens?

23:14

Do they hold them in contempt? Do they

23:16

jail them until they talk? In the federal

23:18

system, that is an option. I don't know

23:20

what the Michigan State law provides

23:22

for. But federally, yeah, if you immunize somebody and

23:25

you move to compel it, if it's a grand

23:27

jury testimony and they refuse to provide it, you

23:29

can seek to hold them in contempt and seek

23:31

sanctions if they continue to hold out. But I

23:33

don't know what Michigan, I mean,

23:35

and I think we have some listeners who are, we've

23:38

met them at the virtual cocktail

23:40

hours, some Michigan attorneys. So listeners

23:43

out there, if you've got some

23:45

insight into what Michigan law provides for, drop

23:48

us a line and we'll plug it into,

23:50

we'll give you the answer next time. Yeah,

23:52

because I mean, I just imagine like, you know, you

23:54

give somebody immunity and they didn't want to testify in

23:57

the first place. What

23:59

if they don't? I know, like

24:01

you said, for Feds, what can happen? But

24:03

if you're just like, no, I'm not gonna tell you. Yeah,

24:06

I mean, I think the general legal

24:08

idea from Supreme Court precedent is that

24:10

the grand jury, every man is entitled

24:13

to the best evidence that's there. So

24:15

if there is a person, a citizen

24:18

who has information about an alleged crime, that

24:20

it is, they can be compelled

24:22

to provide it. Now, they can't be compelled

24:24

to like overcome their rights and uncriminate themselves,

24:26

which is the Fifth Amendment, right? But if

24:29

the government, if the prosecutors wave prosecuting

24:32

them, then the onus goes back to the

24:34

person who's been given the immunity to do

24:36

their duty as a citizen to

24:39

provide that information. And again, I think that's kind

24:41

of like fundamental law that applies regardless of the

24:43

state, but I don't know the ins and outs

24:45

of Michigan State law. No,

24:47

me neither. Seems to stand a

24:49

reason though, because I mean, I doubt you'd be able to

24:51

just be like, no, I'm not gonna say and get away

24:53

with it. It doesn't

24:56

seem like something that's very

24:58

feasible. But it's

25:01

pretty amazing to me, Pete, that we have so

25:03

many cases

25:05

going on in parallel in Michigan. We

25:08

have the voter data breach,

25:11

which is what we were just talking about,

25:14

but she's also involved in

25:17

a voting machine plot. You

25:19

know, this sounds like, do you

25:21

remember when Donald Trump paid $1.5 million to

25:24

have two research firms go out and look into voter

25:27

fraud? But they were legitimate

25:29

research firms and they were like, there are none.

25:31

Then it seems like he sent out the

25:34

Patrick Byrne plantation posse. Okay,

25:37

the pros, I know I didn't get this for

25:40

$1.5 million, but what might I get

25:42

for $22,000? Right,

25:44

Jesus. Is there a discount if I go to

25:46

the five and dime? If I go to the

25:48

Dollar Tree, what can I get there for

25:51

an answer? Teemu and Wish have looked

25:53

into your voter fraud and

25:55

here's what they found. That's

25:58

what it feels like happens here. Legitimate

26:00

like the DOJ wouldn't do it Right.

26:03

He tried to get Jeffrey Clark

26:05

in there to get to get an attorney general

26:07

who would but even like

26:09

BJ pack was like no, dude

26:12

and Bar

26:14

was like no I'll

26:17

go on TV and lie and say that the

26:19

mail-in voting is rife with fraud But I'm

26:21

not that there's nothing here to investigate or

26:23

we have it They actually did investigate and found

26:26

nothing told him several times so then

26:28

he hires a couple of voter

26:30

fraud research firms and they

26:32

were like now we didn't find anything

26:34

so now he sends out Patrick Byrne and

26:37

the pillow man and His

26:40

little weird army of you know

26:42

four seasons total landscaping experts

26:46

to head out hit the road and Steal

26:50

voter data and you remember

26:52

in Michael indel's symposium there

26:54

was a guy who got a bunch of voter data

26:57

and he was showing it on the screen and while

26:59

he was on stage or via

27:01

zoom at this Symposium

27:03

he gets a call from his lawyer

27:06

and says, huh. I gotta go and like

27:14

And speaking and I you know news

27:17

for the next episode is this develops

27:19

breaking news that both Jenna Ellis and

27:21

Boris Epstein have pled not guilty in

27:25

Arizona, so I'm hoping eagerly waiting to

27:27

see Boris Epstein's booking photo But yes

27:29

this entire this entire crew and again,

27:31

it is all the same people I

27:34

I do hope at some point that

27:36

Jack Smith is well aware of

27:39

this broad conspiracy Including all

27:41

these people who keep showing up in the same

27:43

names in the same people Funding

27:45

this fraudulent stop the steal activity whether

27:48

it is the fake electors Overlapping with

27:50

the people who are looking for the

27:52

fake flaws in the voting

27:54

systems and all the attorneys

27:56

advising them with fake or fraudulent

27:58

advice. It's all got the

28:01

same core group of people. And I

28:03

hope to see one day, federal

28:05

indictments coming out of Jack Smith of

28:08

all these knuckleheads because- Well, I

28:10

mean, it's being investigated, right? Because we

28:12

reported last week that that Michigan police

28:14

officer who kept the Republicans out of

28:16

the Michigan State House when they wanted

28:18

to go in and sign their fraudulent certificate,

28:22

said that he was paid a visit two

28:24

weeks ago by the FBI and

28:26

US prosecutors, federal prosecutors from DC.

28:28

So it's being

28:31

either currently

28:33

investigated or they're

28:36

interviewing people to build their case in chief

28:39

or to build their indictment, we'll see. But

28:43

the investigation is still ongoing. I'm assuming they

28:45

still have a grand jury impaneled and

28:49

we'll see what happens. But yeah, it's interesting

28:51

Jenna Ellis to talk about what you just

28:53

said about her pleading not guilty in Arizona. She

28:56

cried on national television,

28:59

pleading guilty and apologizing

29:01

in Georgia. She's

29:04

lost her law license for three years

29:06

in Colorado. Why is

29:08

she pleading not guilty in Arizona? That's

29:11

really curious. Yeah, I don't know.

29:14

And I would think, again, it depends on the

29:16

prosecutor. You would think, it depends. Sometimes you'll get,

29:18

again, state-to-state varies, but at the federal level,

29:20

it would depend on the case. Sometimes for

29:23

charging DOJ, prosecutors might reach out to somebody

29:25

and say, hey, do you have an attorney?

29:27

You should get one. Or if they do,

29:30

look, we're getting ready to charge a client. Are

29:32

you interested in making a deal before we charge

29:34

you or upon after

29:36

being charged to try and engage

29:39

in some negotiation to get a plea agreement?

29:41

So it's not clear to me, did Arizona

29:43

not offer it or not want to

29:45

say, look, you can plead guilty or

29:49

not guilty, but we're not gonna cut a deal. I

29:51

don't know. Maybe they

29:53

were like, we don't need your testimony. You're useless

29:55

to us. You were part of this crime. We

29:58

don't care. You're optioned to plead. guilty or will

30:00

prosecute you? Right. It

30:03

just seems weird that you'd plead in one and not, you

30:06

already debased yourself as

30:08

a criminal

30:10

in front of the world with

30:12

your weird sad apology letter. I

30:15

don't know. It just

30:17

seems like

30:19

I haven't run into the situation where somebody

30:21

is being

30:24

prosecuted for the same crime in

30:27

sovereign states and

30:31

their plea contradicts

30:36

what they've already said in a different jurisdiction. So maybe

30:38

it's something different in the charging. I don't know. I'll

30:40

have to look into it. It just seems odd to

30:42

me. I feel

30:46

like you shouldn't get to say you're not

30:48

guilty in Arizona, but guilty in Georgia.

30:50

It's just weird. OK. Anyway, we'll figure

30:53

it out and we'll look into it. I'm

30:55

sure we'll learn more as the case unfolds. But

30:57

we do have to take one. Actually, we

30:59

have two more segments coming up.

31:02

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31:04

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31:07

what the House Ethics Committee is looking

31:09

into around the very wonderful

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and polite and super great to be

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as I was saying Pete, a story that went under the

36:17

radar from the New York Times

36:19

this past week, the House Ethics

36:21

Committee has begun review. They're busy by the

36:23

way. There's a busy little body, the House

36:27

Ethics Committee because apparently

36:29

there's a lot of unethical people in the House

36:31

of Representatives, but they have begun

36:33

reviewing Representative Nancy Mace's use of

36:35

a reimbursement program for lodging

36:38

and other expenses of Congress members

36:40

working in Washington. That's according

36:42

to a committee member. So you

36:45

know when you're a House

36:48

member and you have to travel or come

36:51

back to Washington for a few days from

36:53

your district to vote on some stuff or whatever

36:55

it is, there's a

36:57

reimbursement program that you can

36:59

take advantage of for

37:02

that travel, for those needs. So

37:04

following a complaint, lawmakers are being

37:06

asked to look into whether Miss Mace, Republican of

37:09

South Carolina, overcharged the

37:11

program by thousands of dollars

37:13

for expenses related to her Washington townhouse.

37:16

This is according to the lawmaker

37:18

familiar with the preliminary inquiry who

37:21

obviously spoke on the condition of anonymity.

37:24

The full committee will consider the details of

37:26

the complaint over the coming days. The committee

37:28

has not taken a vote to authorize the

37:30

investigation yet, but a change

37:32

to House rules that went into effect

37:35

last year allows members to be repaid

37:37

for costs of lodging and food while

37:40

they're on official business in Washington up

37:42

to they cap it at $34,000 a

37:44

year. Now lawmakers are not required

37:46

to submit receipts, but

37:48

they're strongly encouraged to keep them for

37:50

their records. And according

37:52

to the latest report by the Committee on

37:54

House Administration, Nancy Mace was repaid

37:57

more than $23,000 in lodging costs in 2023,

38:01

so she's not at the limit. But

38:03

documents reviewed by the New York Times

38:05

showed that amount included expenses for insurance,

38:08

taxes, and other monthly bills related

38:10

to her own townhouse. And

38:13

lawmakers who own homes in the

38:15

Washington area may not

38:17

seek reimbursement for mortgage payments. Under

38:20

the program, lawmakers may only request reimbursement for

38:22

their portion of housing costs incurred while in

38:24

D. C. But according to the deed of

38:26

her home and the

38:29

person familiar, she is

38:31

a partial owner of the home with

38:33

her former fiance and would

38:35

not be permitted to seek repayment for the

38:37

full costs associated with the

38:39

shared home. So big shocker.

38:41

We have a Republican in Congress, super nice,

38:44

peach, peach of a person, Nancy

38:46

Mace, who is lying

38:49

to steal taxpayer dollars. Yeah,

38:52

I wonder if she'll, you know, given her past

38:54

record of like getting up in front of the

38:56

National Prayer Breakfast crowd and talking about how she

38:59

was almost late because whoever she was dating was

39:01

trying to like get a little action for she

39:03

walked out the door. Oh my God, that's right.

39:05

That's telling that story to the assembled group of

39:07

the National Prayer Breakfast. Perhaps she'll tell a story

39:09

in front of like the National Association of Certified

39:12

Public Accountants. She can talk about like how she's,

39:14

you know, kicking in the money on the townhouse

39:16

she owns by covering it and claiming it's, you

39:18

know, it's her and her fiancees. They

39:21

own it together. Maybe

39:24

this is where the alleged nookie took place

39:26

that she talked about. Don't stop. Stop. Nobody

39:28

wants to hear that. Nobody wants to think

39:31

about that. Can't unsee. Can't

39:33

unsee. Yeah, wash

39:35

your mouth out. Sorry.

39:39

Sorry, my friend. It'll

39:41

be interesting. I mean, you know, like I said, House

39:43

Ethics Committee has their plate a little full right

39:46

now, mostly with Matt Gates, which

39:49

we'll go into in detail on the Daily Beans

39:51

and we'll probably talk about it as more information

39:53

comes out on the weekend's bonus

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episode for patrons, but that's

39:57

a busy little group there. Yeah,

40:00

it is. And you know, Gates, who

40:02

cannot seem to dodge the, what seems

40:04

to me, the truth of his trafficking

40:06

of minors in the sexual context is,

40:08

you know, still not out of the

40:10

woods when it comes to the ethics

40:13

committee. But I have no expectation that

40:15

there will be any finding whatsoever. But

40:17

hey, you know, just the fact that it's still around

40:19

seems to, there is still smoke that does

40:21

not ever seem to go away. And speaking of

40:24

smoke that never seems to go away, let's talk

40:26

about the bankruptcy twins, Alex Jones and Rudy. Now,

40:30

first, we spoke about this on the

40:32

bonus episode of Repatrons the past weekend.

40:34

We know a judge has ordered Alex

40:37

Jones to liquidate his assets. Now that

40:39

means he goes from chapter 11 bankruptcy

40:41

into chapter seven liquidation. And

40:43

for those who say Alex Jones is being

40:45

wronged, please note that it was Jones himself

40:47

that asked for the liquidation. And the judge

40:50

simply granted that. There will

40:52

be a trustee, there will be in charge

40:54

of selling off what he owns, including his

40:56

$2.8 million Texas ranch and Infowars.

40:59

So the money can be given to the families of

41:01

the Sandy Hook shooting victims. Don't

41:03

forget Rudy Giuliani has also filed for

41:05

bankruptcy since he lost a defamation suit

41:07

brought by Georgia election worker Ruby Freeman

41:09

and Shay Moss to the tune of

41:11

$148 million. Rudy

41:15

has agreed to a permanent order barring him

41:18

from mentioning their names, but the $148 million

41:21

payment is on hold pending

41:23

the bankruptcy filing. Now

41:26

the Daily Beast writes, disgraced

41:28

former New York city mayor Rudy Giuliani

41:30

has a quote unquote lung disease. It

41:33

may have been caused by his time in lower Manhattan

41:35

immediately after the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks. His

41:39

lawyer said in a court filing earlier this

41:41

week, according to the New York Post, Giuliani

41:45

is seeking to retain control of his

41:47

finances amid bankruptcy proceedings with his lawyers

41:49

claiming that the 80 year old has

41:51

a quote unquote limited earning

41:54

potential as a result of his deteriorating

41:56

health. Quote, Giuliani

41:59

is suffering from impossible 911 lung

42:01

disease and his future earning capacity

42:03

is limited both by his age

42:05

and future health." The

42:07

filing submitted Monday reads, the one-time personal lawyer

42:09

for Donald Trump owes a steep $148

42:12

million in damages incurred after he was found

42:14

liable for defamation against a pair of Georgia

42:17

election workers he falsely claimed were part of

42:19

a conspiracy to commit voter fraud and throw

42:21

the state's 2020 election. Giuliani

42:24

filed for bankruptcy in December,

42:26

2023 concludes the article. Now,

42:29

here's something, perhaps

42:31

that lung disease, and I know

42:34

people who responded and now people who

42:36

have passed away from their

42:38

exposure to both airborne

42:42

chemicals and carcinogens at both

42:44

the downtown New York, the

42:46

Twin Towers, as well as the Pentagon responding

42:48

there. Rudy Giuliani cigar

42:51

a day, all the photos we have

42:54

him at the Havana Club in Manhattan

42:57

at his age with his lifestyle,

43:00

it strikes me as a wildly

43:02

convenient excuse and he sure looked great

43:04

at his birthday celebration right before he

43:06

got served. And the other

43:08

thing, the quote that his limited

43:10

earning potential is results of his

43:12

deteriorating health and his earning capacity,

43:15

it's not limited by his age

43:17

and future health, it's limited by

43:19

his recidivism as a criminal defendant

43:21

and his association with the worst

43:24

president in the history of

43:26

our nation. That's what is

43:28

causing his loss of earning

43:30

potential and his disbarment and

43:33

his continued ongoing indictments

43:35

in what we have now. Kicked off

43:37

WABC. Yes, it has nothing to do

43:39

with his health or lung disease. It

43:42

has entirely to do with the content

43:44

of his character and his behavior that

43:46

is limiting his future potential. But he

43:48

can keep making some cameo videos, doing

43:51

a little teapot reading of- We should

43:53

ask for one. We should pay him-

43:55

You know your birthday, your birthday to

43:58

Alison. I will start composing. I think we

44:00

pay him $200 to read the commissary list

44:03

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44:05

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probably, he has not used them up

44:33

until this point in his life. Why

44:35

start now? Why start in

44:37

jail? Unless that's something that some people

44:39

find Jesus in prison, some people start

44:41

weightlifting in prison, some people learn

44:45

basketball, maybe he'll start

44:47

hygiene. Get some scruffing, a

44:49

scruffing regimen to some peels,

44:51

get a little retinol, wash

44:53

that hair, get a comb.

44:55

Use hygiene in general. Maybe

44:58

go down to two shirts. Drag a razor across his face. We're

45:01

coming. They have two t-shirts,

45:03

like medium through two XLs at a certain price. If you

45:05

have to go through to five XL, it jumps to $19

45:07

and 50. I'm

45:09

all over it. I cannot wait to read it. We'll

45:11

see, but maybe we do that on the bonus to

45:14

plumb the depths of what he has

45:16

available. Maybe you'll give us a tiny

45:19

little- A little taste. A little more of a taste. We'll

45:21

give him a taste. For the first taste is free and

45:23

then you gotta- Right. First taste is free and then you

45:25

gotta pay for the bonus. First taste, really. We can do

45:27

that. Before

45:30

we move on to the next segment, before we

45:32

talk about Steve and all that stuff,

45:34

I wanted to say that I've

45:37

read some pretty

45:39

interesting takes

45:42

on the Alex Jones liquidation.

45:47

I think that we're being played a little bit

45:50

by Alex Jones when

45:52

he cried about his reaction. Shocked

45:54

to hear that might be the case. I

45:57

think it's a little Kyle Rittenhousey. I

46:00

think those were crocodile tears. And

46:03

here's why. Lee liquidates his

46:05

assets right now after unloading a

46:07

bunch of stuff to FSS, which is I

46:09

think his father's company, has

46:12

to sell this $2.8 million ranch and

46:14

hand that money over, has to sell

46:16

InfoWars, which can't be that expensive. I think we should

46:19

all get together and buy it and turn it into

46:21

like a pro-choice

46:24

network all day. But maybe a million and

46:27

a half, something like that. So

46:30

you're looking at under $5 million. He's gonna get

46:32

away with paying these Sandy Hook families five

46:37

million, 10 million bucks when he owes them

46:39

$1.5 billion. And

46:41

the sad part is, and this is what made it very

46:43

difficult for the judge to make this call. Like

46:46

he almost had tears in his eyes

46:49

when he had to do this. Because the liquidation

46:51

was really, really, because

46:54

the liquidation was requested by

46:56

Alex Jones. And

47:00

the judge reluctantly

47:03

granted it, but it was the only way

47:05

to get some people paid. But

47:07

it pitted the Texas

47:10

plaintiffs against the Connecticut plaintiffs. Because

47:13

one of the two had a huge settlement,

47:16

like over a billion. And the other one was,

47:19

I think it was Texas, was limited by Texas

47:21

law to much lower, a

47:24

much lower award, because

47:27

they have a maximum there. I

47:29

think that's correct. Again, this

47:31

is off the top of my head. And

47:33

so they're going to only see a

47:35

tiny percentage, that

47:38

group of plaintiffs is only gonna see a tiny percentage of

47:40

the whole liquidation. And

47:43

so we're talking pittance. When

47:46

you sell off InfoWars in his

47:48

ranch, liquidate his assets, and

47:51

give the bulk of

47:53

it to

47:57

the larger suit winner, the larger...

48:00

group of plaintiffs that won the larger award

48:03

and so that Of course

48:05

the smaller the group that got the smaller

48:07

award is arguing. No, no liquid Asian. No

48:09

liquid Asian Alex Jones is like yes liquid

48:11

Asian liquid Asian and Alex

48:15

Jones won and so he's gonna get

48:17

away with paying very little and as

48:19

far as going after him for his

48:21

future assets He's just gonna work

48:23

for his father and who's gonna pay him

48:25

a dollar a year, you know And so

48:27

there won't be any future assets he's

48:31

Kind of an untouchable plaintiff at this point because

48:33

of the liquidation So I just wanted to say

48:35

that I just wanted to put that out there.

48:38

This isn't a win I think for the

48:40

for the families of

48:42

the victims of The

48:44

school shooting. I just I don't think it is.

48:46

I think it's a win for Alex Jones We

48:49

saw him put out video out where he's where

48:51

Donald Trump gave me this new cyber truck. Oh

48:53

my god. Thanks Tesla Thanks, Donald Trump and

48:57

It probably gave it to his father's

48:59

company. So he doesn't have

49:01

to liquidate it. It's just it's a scam and

49:04

it's unfortunate That

49:07

is though so on brand for everybody

49:10

in and around Trump world I

49:12

think you're probably exactly right and

49:14

hopefully the you know the

49:17

attorneys have some good asset tracking folks who can

49:19

see through it and if there's something they can

49:21

attach to or Call a file

49:23

on they can do it. But I Think

49:26

you're right. Unfortunately Yeah All

49:29

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53:35

at the DC Circuit asking them

53:37

to prevent him from having to report to prison

53:39

on July 1st, just

53:41

weeks away, for his contempt of Congress conviction.

53:44

Quote, Appellant Stephen K. Bannon

53:46

seeks release pending further appeal of his

53:48

convictions in this case. Given

53:50

his surrender date of July 1, 2024, he

53:53

respectfully requests a ruling by June

53:56

18th today as

53:58

we're taping 2024. to allow

54:00

sufficient time to seek further relief from

54:02

the Supreme Court if necessary. As

54:05

in the peat aside here right now, generally

54:08

you don't sit there saying, hey, I'm in

54:10

here late. This is coming up, the court

54:12

of appeals. So do me a solid. I'm

54:14

going to give you a few days. Can

54:16

you give me an answer by Tuesday, today,

54:18

June 18th? That's not the way this works

54:20

and the arrogance of doing that. It's not like

54:23

I'm on death row, please commute

54:25

my sentence or at least let me give

54:27

you a filing to prevent it from that. It's

54:29

not where we're at. Anyway, it continues back

54:32

to Bannon's filing. This is a landmark

54:34

case. The prosecution pursued a

54:36

novel and aggressive theory of liability

54:38

and the case garnered international attention.

54:41

If the panel decision stands, there

54:44

will be far reaching consequences, including

54:46

separation of powers concerns. Before

54:49

the prosecution of Mr. Bannon, it

54:51

had been 50 years since the

54:53

government convinced a jury to convict

54:55

someone for not adequately responding to

54:57

a congressional subpoena. And there

54:59

has certainly been no shortage of disputes

55:01

over congressional subpoenas during that time. Mr.

55:04

Bannon intends to vigorously pursue his

55:06

remaining appeals in this case and

55:09

has retained experienced Supreme Court counsel.

55:12

In the meantime, he asked this court to allow him to

55:14

remain on release. And then

55:16

the government turned around and responded on Monday, quote, Bannon's

55:19

release motion should be denied. Release

55:22

pending appeal is the exception to

55:24

the general rule that a defendant shall

55:26

be detained following a conviction and

55:28

imposition of a sentence of imprisonment. Release

55:31

after an appellate panel has ruled

55:33

against the defendant would be all

55:35

the more extraordinary. Bannon cannot meet

55:38

the legal standard to

55:40

justify his release. So,

55:43

Alison, there's just

55:45

in my opinion, slim to no

55:47

chance that this will be granted. He

55:49

will, I am certain, then

55:52

take it up to Supreme Court. And just

55:54

like we saw with Peter Navarro trying to

55:56

stay out of jail, it will

55:58

be summarily decide which bridge. which

56:01

brings us then, if it is denied,

56:03

and he asked us show up on

56:05

July the 1st. The

56:07

items is he rolls into

56:10

FCI Danbury and looks at

56:12

his account and what he might buy

56:14

at the commissary list. Again, they're

56:16

listeners, you can find on the BOP.gov

56:18

website. You can go and search any

56:20

federal correctional institute or institution

56:22

rather, and they will publish typically their

56:24

commissary list. This is FCI Danbury from

56:26

2023. It

56:29

is the most recent, but Steve,

56:32

if he goes in, starting with underwear,

56:34

medium to 2XL, $11.70

56:36

a pair, but if you were

56:39

3X and up, price jumps to $19.50,

56:41

substantial. If

56:43

you want a shirt,

56:46

a short sleeve t-shirt, and again, he wears three, so you got

56:48

to multiply this by three, $6.50 for a long sleeve shirt, $10.40.

56:53

He has a wide variety of

56:56

mesh hats, mesh shorts,

57:01

mesh ... But

57:05

grooming aids, brush comb

57:07

combo for the first time in his life, a

57:09

toenail clipper, some tweezers, nose scissors for $6.70, a

57:11

pumice stone. You

57:15

can need about five or six of those if you're going

57:17

to start diving into that, but buck 90 will get you

57:19

one. You can get

57:21

a thin hair tie for a buck 25 or a

57:23

thick CK, not CC, thick

57:25

hair tie for It's

57:30

a choice of shampoo, VO5, suave,

57:32

pantene, dandruff shoulders, head and

57:34

shoulders, trisame, and whole blends

57:37

ranging buck 85 for the VO5 all the way up to $8.90 for

57:39

the head and shoulders. No

57:43

salon selectives, huh? What's

57:46

interesting to me, it seems like

57:48

quite a bargain. Skin care is

57:50

extensive, extensive, toned cocoa butter lotion,

57:52

suave, suave, hydro lotion, suave, cocoa

57:54

lotion, ambi complexion, soap, St. Ives,

57:56

collagen face, Noxema, face wash. Again,

57:59

double up on the ... petroleum

58:01

jelly, baby powder, hot six oil,

58:03

curell, St. Ives, this

58:06

is like a target, St. Ives

58:08

apricot scrub, Jurgen's weightless, Aveeno,

58:10

Aveeno at $15.25, an

58:12

outlier in price, but the bargain, the

58:15

bargain I thought was a Neutrogena bar for $3.65.

58:19

That's a good price. Seems like a bargain.

58:21

If he wants to be a bit multi-ethnic, he

58:25

can get some chorizo beans, he

58:28

can get some halal slash

58:30

kosher meals. You can get

58:32

beans in prison? He can get

58:34

chorizo beans for $2.80. This is

58:36

under produce. This is the

58:39

produce section, you're like, oh, produce, yeah, great.

58:41

That is, it's a man, no, no, no,

58:43

produce, a garlic pickle, 85 cents, a

58:46

hot and spicy pickle, also 85 cents, hot

58:49

pepper mix, 255 refried beans, 220 chorizo beans, 280

58:53

olive salad, 320. And

58:55

what I'm certain, I hope, I

58:58

hope this is constantly on

59:00

C. Ben's mind, and I'm surprised at

59:02

the progressiveness of BOP. There

59:04

is a transgender section with a note

59:06

that this must be confirmed, where

59:09

he can buy, although prices are

59:11

not listed, blush, body wash, a

59:13

claw hair clip, cotton balls, women's

59:15

deodorant, ethnic hair shampoo, whatever that

59:17

brand is, eyeshadow, foam hair rollers,

59:19

foundation, hair pick, lip gloss,

59:21

women's lotion, women's underwear, Q-tips, women's razor

59:24

shoes, socks, sports bra, and watch. So

59:26

I am the

59:28

potential for the aggravation of Steve Bannon.

59:31

First of all, that's awesome. But

59:33

second of all, I bet that comes up in

59:35

Comer's investigation into the

59:37

politicization of the Bureau of Prisons. We

59:40

will hear, yes, Lauren Boebert or

59:43

MTG won't be down there screaming

59:45

about why are we subsidizing, why

59:47

is BOP providing women's underwear for

59:49

transgender prisoners? Because why not try

59:51

and exercise a little bit of

59:56

humanity and decency by providing

59:59

them? Yeah, but they're absolutely. to loot trolls and they will

1:00:01

definitely hear about it, I'm

1:00:03

sure. Just, Steve can buy a bunch

1:00:05

of like, not to cheat Doritos for $2.65. You

1:00:09

can read this all day.

1:00:11

You can get the Dorito dust all over your

1:00:13

hands, then you can get the Neutrogena soap to

1:00:15

clean it. Exactly. All right, something we've

1:00:18

been asking for for a very long time on this show, since

1:00:21

I think before you

1:00:23

joined us, Pete, on CleanUp

1:00:25

on L45, to expand the

1:00:27

federal bench of judges. Now

1:00:30

this isn't the Supreme Court. I want

1:00:32

that. I want there to be 13 Supreme Court

1:00:34

justices, but this is a bill to expand

1:00:36

the federal bench. The Senate

1:00:39

Judiciary Committee has advanced a bipartisan bill to

1:00:41

create 66 new federal

1:00:43

district court judgeships to meet workload demands,

1:00:45

including in California, Delaware, and Texas,

1:00:48

which if enacted would be the first major expansion

1:00:50

of the judiciary in over three decades. The

1:00:53

US Senate Judiciary Committee voted 20 to

1:00:55

zero to send the bill. It

1:00:58

opens a new tab designed to fulfill

1:01:00

longstanding requests from the judiciary to help

1:01:02

address rise in caseloads by

1:01:05

adding judges in 25 district courts

1:01:07

nationwide. It's going

1:01:09

to go now to the full Senate for consideration.

1:01:12

Given there's almost 900 federal judges, we

1:01:15

were calling on CleanUp on L45 to double the federal

1:01:18

bench. We're

1:01:21

not getting 900 more judges. We're getting 66,

1:01:23

but it is an expansion. I

1:01:25

welcome it. I'm surprised

1:01:27

we're not expanding the DC bench, given

1:01:30

what happened to January 6th, but

1:01:32

maybe they're like, it was a one time thing.

1:01:34

I'm not so sure. There

1:01:37

are future coup plotters in

1:01:40

our midst right now, and

1:01:42

those coups are likely to take place in

1:01:45

the Capitol. But again, I'll take what

1:01:47

I can get. Yeah,

1:01:50

I think this would be great. I

1:01:52

don't think procedurally it is going to

1:01:54

get passed until certainly

1:01:57

not fast enough so that Biden can send

1:01:59

it. signed in the law and

1:02:01

immediately kick out, you know, 66 more

1:02:04

nominees to be confirmed by the Democrat

1:02:06

controlled Senate Judiciary Committee. I suspect the.

1:02:09

Yeah. The Republicans are going to block this

1:02:11

for that reason. And I can see them like

1:02:13

wait and see what happens in November and all

1:02:15

of a sudden if Biden gets reelected, oh, the

1:02:17

bipartisanship evaporates. So it will. I hope

1:02:19

this goes through. It needs to. It

1:02:21

is woefully overdue, but

1:02:23

I'm not holding my breath, unfortunately.

1:02:26

And so with that continuing on

1:02:29

the lightning round, let's go back

1:02:31

up north to Wisconsin with the

1:02:33

Wisconsin Supreme Court on Tuesday suspended

1:02:35

former President Donald Trump's Wisconsin lawyer.

1:02:38

There's a theme here, Allison, suspended Trump's Wisconsin

1:02:40

lawyer from a state judicial ethics panel a

1:02:42

week after he was charged with a felony

1:02:45

for his role in a 2020 fake

1:02:48

electors scheme. What's the what's

1:02:50

the theme? Is it is it Trump

1:02:52

lawyers being indicted or is it lawyers

1:02:55

being kicked off of things? All

1:02:58

of it. Just Trump lawyers bad Trump

1:03:00

lawyers getting indicted. Trump lawyers having booking

1:03:02

photos taken. Trump lawyers entering pleas. Trump

1:03:05

lawyers just on the wrong side of

1:03:07

the law. And that's just like said

1:03:10

Mar-a-Lago is a magical place where people

1:03:12

enter as lawyers and leave as witnesses

1:03:15

or convicted

1:03:18

or inmates. Yes. Yes.

1:03:21

Really just barred. Yeah. Get

1:03:23

their chorizo and beans. So liberal advocates

1:03:25

have been calling for Jim Troopis to

1:03:28

step down from the judicial context. We

1:03:30

should have the Daily Beans show

1:03:33

fund like we have a little fund for prison

1:03:36

beans. Prison beans from the Daily Beans.

1:03:38

You can do that. And I

1:03:40

would give it like a little sticker and a mug

1:03:42

and like a super space beans mug like listen to

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the Daily Beans. It's like prison

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beans from yes. And you can like write and

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we can go out and find like I'm sure

1:03:51

again listeners if we have any listeners like in

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or around the BOP system and you can get

1:03:55

us like the actual brand.

1:03:58

Maybe even merch or like you know. Get a gift

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thing of like prison beans from the daily beans for

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your friends. Anyway, because there's

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so many, anyway, something for the bonus

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later. I told you, we tease you. First

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taste is free. Next if you

1:04:12

want more, you got to pay. So liberal

1:04:15

advocates again have been calling for Jim

1:04:18

Truppas to step down from the Judicial

1:04:20

Conduct Advisory Committee saying he is unsuitable

1:04:22

due to his role advising the Republicans

1:04:24

who attempted to cast Wisconsin's electoral votes

1:04:26

for Trump after he lost the 2020

1:04:28

election in the

1:04:30

state of Wisconsin to Democrat Joe Biden. Truppas

1:04:34

who happens to be a former judge. I

1:04:37

didn't know that. Yeah,

1:04:39

I didn't either, but I mean, yeah,

1:04:41

it's insane. Oh, sorry. It's

1:04:44

insane. I'm swearing also a feature

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Kinchesrow as well, another Trump attorney

1:04:50

and former Trump aide Mike Roman

1:04:53

were all charged by state attorney

1:04:55

general Josh Call last week for

1:04:57

their role in the fake electors plot. Surprisingly,

1:05:00

Truppas did not return a voicemail

1:05:02

or text message seeking comment on

1:05:04

Tuesday. Again, Josh

1:05:06

Call, Mike Roman is watching you. Be

1:05:10

careful. New York

1:05:12

City Department of Probation officials have

1:05:14

questioned former president Donald Trump about

1:05:17

an additional gun that

1:05:19

had been registered to him in New York and

1:05:21

his access to firearms as part of

1:05:23

their presentencing interview. That was

1:05:25

the probation interview. That's according to a city official

1:05:28

and the former president, as we know, was

1:05:31

convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business

1:05:33

records to interfere in an election possession

1:05:36

of firearms or ammunition

1:05:38

by a convicted felon is

1:05:40

a federal crime. Now

1:05:43

according to the official Trump said there was a

1:05:45

gun in Florida, which is believed to be one

1:05:47

of three weapons listed in his New York City

1:05:49

permit to carry concealed weapons. Trump

1:05:51

has a concealed carry permit.

1:05:56

I can't imagine him. to

1:06:00

the pistol for his wee tiny hands. You

1:06:02

can't reach the... That's

1:06:04

why he wants bump stocks back, is because he can't reach

1:06:07

the trigger. Anyway, CNN,

1:06:09

this is CNN reporting, they previously reported

1:06:12

two of the three pistols he was licensed

1:06:14

to carry were turned over to

1:06:16

the NYPD in March of 2023. A

1:06:20

third gun listed on Trump's

1:06:22

license was lawfully moved to Florida.

1:06:25

Now contacted by CNN last week, Palm Beach police

1:06:28

said they were unaware of any gun that Trump

1:06:30

might've had and that none had

1:06:32

been turned over to the department since

1:06:34

his felony conviction. Oops. Trump's

1:06:36

New York gun license was suspended after

1:06:39

his arrest in 2023 by the Manhattan

1:06:41

DA's office. And now as a result

1:06:44

of his conviction, his license is being

1:06:46

revoked. That's according to New York City police. A

1:06:48

New York official briefed on the probation

1:06:51

investigation said the information on the outstanding

1:06:53

gun quote, will be referred to local

1:06:55

authorities in Florida to take

1:06:58

whatever steps necessary. I think

1:07:00

this is the Trump

1:07:03

45 gold handgun that

1:07:05

that one... Although

1:07:09

I wonder because that was... I thought that came

1:07:11

up in the context of his visiting a store

1:07:13

fairly recently and they gave it to him as

1:07:15

a gift and he was at first accepted it

1:07:17

and then everybody was like in Twitter saying, wait

1:07:20

a minute, you've been indicted, you can't have that.

1:07:22

And then like the campaign went into

1:07:24

overdrive saying, oh, he didn't take it, he just returned

1:07:26

it. So I think that might've been that. This strikes

1:07:28

me as something that he had way back, for

1:07:31

at least a couple years. Unless this was the one that was moved to Florida from

1:07:34

New York. But regardless, he admitted to

1:07:36

having a gun in Florida. I

1:07:38

don't think that he'll be charged with

1:07:41

a crime for that, but

1:07:44

it is interesting that I think

1:07:46

some of his bail conditions, the

1:07:49

fact that he's out on bail say that he can't have

1:07:52

access to a firearm. So that's

1:07:54

really interesting. And

1:07:56

we'll see, I know Ryan

1:07:58

Goodlaw was talking about. that on

1:08:01

social media. So

1:08:03

it will be interesting to see if anything comes of this.

1:08:05

I doubt it will, because he's

1:08:07

not Hunter Biden, but we'll

1:08:09

see. Yeah,

1:08:12

that's right. And I think, you know, point

1:08:14

get David Weiss to look into this

1:08:17

and the, you know, what sort of

1:08:19

gun procedures, administrative procedures weren't followed and

1:08:21

lock them up. Lock them up, not

1:08:23

going to happen. I

1:08:26

would hope only the Florida authorities will

1:08:28

say, look, media isn't

1:08:30

going to stop asking about this. Just hand it over. We'd

1:08:32

love to let you keep it, but just hand it over

1:08:34

and I suspect you will. But again, Trump

1:08:37

trying to shoot a gun. John Stewart last

1:08:39

night, today, you know, we're taping on Tuesday,

1:08:41

so I think this Monday night, did a

1:08:43

remarkable, like little montage of Trump, the noises

1:08:45

he thinks guns make. And he says, all

1:08:48

right, these big guns, the guns. And they

1:08:50

go, ping pong. I mean, it's just like,

1:08:52

no, no, those are not the sounds guns

1:08:54

make in any conceivable world, but it's Trump's

1:08:57

world where he's shooting his gun at

1:08:59

the shark from the electric, sinking electric

1:09:02

boat. Watch

1:09:05

out for

1:09:07

sharks. There's so many great cartoons,

1:09:09

by the way, about that right now. A

1:09:12

shark sitting on a witness stand asking for to

1:09:14

be electrocuted. Rather than

1:09:16

that Trump. Oh,

1:09:21

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