Dr. Michael Mann helped create the famous "hockey stick" graph in 1999, and it has earned him and his research two decades of vicious attacks from the right. He meets with host Jared Downing to discuss their tactics and how they can be stopped. Also: Climate Justice editor Howard Manly discusses the debate, and Jared waxes philosophical about the apocalypse. (Interview begins at minute 5:27. Jared's commentary at 28:50.)