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This is Coterie Episode Five Hundred and

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Sixty One for March Twelve, Twenty Twenty

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Four. Hello!

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like you're drinking a cocktail, but it's not.

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one. So. Well. Poor.

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What our boys because the question I

1:16

think has to be assed. Is.

1:19

Four percent enough. Because. It looks

1:21

like Linux has crossed the four percent

1:23

desktop market share. That's. At

1:25

least according to Statcounter, a leading

1:27

web traffic analysis tool, they report that

1:29

Linux is market share has reached four

1:32

point zero three percent. Pick.

1:34

Pick pick Pick Gay. I.

1:37

Mean four per cents. Not bad, right? It can

1:39

feel like four percent issues when people started taking

1:41

the mack a little more seriously. Again, Years.

1:44

Ago now. but the stop at all. You.

1:46

Know so I don't know if this is

1:49

the Weapon X algorithm, but my feed is

1:51

full. Of. People either switching to

1:53

Wsl for for obviously windows

1:55

right? Or. Linux Kosilek it's

1:57

all these angry disgruntled the the him active hot

2:00

critics lie. First, Bolivars are like rare as through

2:02

this and go Yes the I'm getting on the

2:04

web dev again I'm seeing that and I I

2:06

think I think we do have a bit of

2:08

a selection bias there but I am seen that

2:10

and I mean I am also seen people from

2:13

a dub or so. I'm not out there looking

2:15

for people run and w some of their shown

2:17

up I'm afraid. I gotta be honest you on

2:19

that sassy Dell behind me. I had

2:21

to do some. By the way, I had to

2:23

do Windows X P programming this week. What? Are

2:25

you? alright? He. To lie down

2:27

I cried, the drank a bit. Sore, it.

2:30

In a you recover I you know I did a

2:32

thing where you cry, holding credo and yourself in the

2:34

shower for a while. Isn't good? Okay,

2:37

that's how you do it. But

2:39

ah, with a bottle of Hendrix

2:41

beside me. Even even depressed, I

2:43

still keep it classy. but they

2:45

either of their running over there

2:47

was there simultaneously running Xp and

2:49

Ten and a half.net three point

2:51

five saw her legs as fun

2:53

as I bought. The other part

2:55

of the system is Python so

2:57

I and I was originally developed

2:59

on my. Macbook. I

3:02

really was saddened by this really is

3:04

just so it's over. It's stupidly overkill

3:06

and it's heavy, barely fits the my

3:08

briefcase. It's ago I got so much

3:10

so that I had to go out.

3:13

I guess for the litres of V two

3:15

weeks ago by the time the hear this

3:17

and I just took my death one. Because.

3:20

I'm like you know I am not

3:22

login this thing around. Oh man oh

3:24

good good good What? It actually like Miss

3:26

Shapes my briefcase is so vague deaths

3:28

perfect treasure which which makes me think it's

3:30

offering no protection to it. And I'm

3:32

like this thing with five grams. Like

3:35

I'm on a right now. it's don't get me

3:37

wrong it's the but the that not desktop desktop

3:39

I that. And like of the

3:41

Dell has all the complaints that you know

3:43

people have been using. Apple would have about

3:45

a Dell that it's loud. The Sands pick

3:47

up all the time for no reason. But

3:49

I gotta tell you once you pop the

3:51

As code into full screen mode and you

3:53

open up. I'm. Still using penguin we

3:55

to up was probably put a link to

3:57

them the show has their place or of

3:59

wsl to it's debbie and but they have

4:01

a bunch of like help or of sentence.

4:05

It's. Really good. And. That

4:07

I was in, Pops and I I ended

4:09

up just doing a clean install. They haven't

4:11

used Pop seriously and a long time. It's.

4:13

Also really good. like. And

4:16

like I don't know what system seventy sixes

4:18

charging for like a replacement laptop these days,

4:20

but I know I didn't pay a lot

4:22

for the deaf one. and that's not like

4:24

Mike is precious and special thing that's just

4:26

stating. By the way, they discontinued them cleaning

4:28

the I'd date I I almost feel like

4:30

the underpriced them there were a little aggressive

4:32

on the press and but. It's

4:35

like damn like I have to go of

4:37

as to go on a trip to turn

4:39

New Jersey New York in a couple months.

4:42

I'm literally afraid to take

4:44

my Macbook Pro because. So.

4:46

Many things can happen, right? Like, if I

4:48

could drop it, it could go if I

4:50

put it in my luggage because I. Sometimes.

4:53

Do that and they are supposed to. One.

4:56

Of my suitcase gets lost and it's just so

4:58

much easier for me to lose like a sixteen

5:00

hundred dollar laptop than five thousand dollar laptop. I'm

5:02

of the tickles me to hear that for some

5:04

reason I don't know why. They

5:06

are what they are. Ludotruck ludicrously big and you

5:08

know as they oh as they update improve them

5:11

in a were in another cyclists oh the air

5:13

is going to go to the witcher Big Monster

5:15

can do I probably be happy. Five an hour

5:17

right? It will be alert and to is like

5:19

I have is a warped terminal. My terminal choice

5:22

these days. Just came over to Linux. Officially

5:24

I but I was in the testing group of.

5:27

The. Whole Jack in the beginning for linux but

5:29

by the by the beta was fine and

5:31

now the production version is just exactly on

5:33

par with the Mac version. So.

5:37

Literally, my toll chain between Pop O

5:39

S and Mac O S is identical.

5:41

That's nice. The only sacrifice I make

5:43

on Windows is that I have to

5:45

use their terminal. Ah, Amusing,

5:47

but Microsoft terminal and I don't get someone

5:49

like the smart completions that work gives me

5:51

as and. But an.

5:53

Insult little annoying, but it's not that

5:55

big of a deal, right? it's I

5:57

got my Vs code sinking up the.

6:00

Get have it gets kind of getting

6:02

sick. I. Don't know the a me this

6:04

is a long com ib both all the rail or but so like.

6:06

The. Ruby stuff. can I doing this

6:08

Rapid on of Ruby knocking. There's all

6:11

kinds of like little irritants because like

6:13

it's arm and Ruby doesn't handle that

6:15

well. So when I go to deployed

6:17

are you know I had a sixer

6:20

a d for linux which is all

6:22

the servers we have. Sometimes I'll forget

6:24

that I after like add the stupid

6:26

thing that says also built them. Have.

6:30

Been were package for

6:32

linux too. Yes it's

6:34

it's. The. It's like little paper cuts

6:36

on max for the development. Stuff that

6:38

I'm doing is getting like us. Are

6:42

gonna annoy of noxious time

6:44

sinking so killing. Those.

6:46

Things so killing seems like a lot

6:48

success at yeah I would say the

6:50

the value prop starting to trend the

6:52

runway yes oh right. well let's what

6:54

they do. maybe the tidy things up

6:56

or in the meantime I got a

6:58

little bit of a goulash for you

7:00

are no mom mom would sometimes take

7:02

like. Noodles. And a

7:05

saw in a meat like from the week and

7:07

should throw i'm all in a pan and and

7:09

bacon. And. Egg goulash has access was

7:11

to be a thing, but mom's goulash. That.

7:13

Was really a gentle left over goulash. I've only got

7:15

four as this week because there's been a lot a

7:17

little stories I've wanted to talk to you about, but

7:19

we just. We. Just haven't had time. And

7:22

so I'm gonna hit pause and services up because

7:24

you know when the next is pretty tasty. Were.

7:27

Made his first remotely were bad taste in your mouth.

7:29

This. Gets into a lot. We covered it recently. And.

7:32

Now and videos responded. We talked about the. Zuma

7:35

which would let you are Salute I which

7:37

would let you essentially have binary compatibility with

7:40

Khuda on am the hardware big deal because

7:42

Cute is a monster in the in the

7:44

ai space and. Today's. Just

7:46

because I'm like that industry standard and so it really

7:48

leave some great hardware outer space on the anti side.

7:51

And. I think intel his son of this at one

7:53

point it and and a indeed funded another point isn't

7:55

open source developer. got it over the finish line and

7:57

we got the leader. And then we.

8:00

We announced it on the show. Them.

8:02

In couple days after the show. It

8:05

video updated their and user license agreements.

8:07

The ship with Cuda. That.

8:09

Clarifies. Not. Just

8:11

on my now but in the documentation place on

8:13

the whole system. Of new

8:16

language says you cannot use

8:18

a translation layer. It

8:20

appears to be designed to prevent initiative just

8:22

like Salute A. Or. To

8:24

to just. Kind. Of try to

8:26

cut them off at the knees. And.

8:28

Damn, keep our of a loss in the code. And

8:31

I guess they have every right to do it, I suppose.

8:34

But. It makes me like. Frustrated.

8:37

As somebody who doesn't want to go out there

8:39

and by really expensive a video hardware but this

8:41

is just it's kind of this non stop. Onslaught

8:43

of stuff designed for in video. When you try

8:45

to get into the space. And.

8:47

I guess I'm left with how are we

8:49

ever going to saw this in video? Problem?

8:51

stay make horrible drivers. They.

8:53

Have a complete lockdown on the coup

8:56

to space. And. Now they

8:58

are making it clear that using Salute

9:00

A is a violation of their end

9:02

user license agreement. And also

9:04

appears to be a move to cut off

9:06

some a chinese Gp you manufacturers who are

9:08

creating cooler compatible corps. With. Translation

9:10

code on the jeep you. So.

9:13

They have been working. On. Coming

9:15

up with some sort of on zip through

9:17

a translator. And I were planning

9:19

I suppose although don't know if a read the markets to

9:21

sell them on the market. And. Is

9:24

speculation as invidious? Also concerned about that. I.

9:26

See no way of solving this problem like

9:28

we are locked in. They can put whatever the

9:31

hell they want. That agreement. That

9:33

sucks. We. Gotta get off the to

9:35

the sauce. I remember told I

9:37

was told years ago by somebody who was working

9:40

in the spaces are ya knows? We.

9:42

Build everything around. Could they have this

9:44

Red Hat workstation? Build. With. That.the

9:46

has a very specific and video card in

9:49

it and a very specific version of Red

9:51

Hat Enterprise Linux. And I'm.

9:53

they just use of for like this purpose built thing

9:56

and when they updated like every you know five to

9:58

ten years or something they get a new. If

10:01

it is really long upgrade cycle majors. They

10:03

spend tons of money on these high end

10:05

corporate video cards. So did you see the

10:07

news that I don't know if it's a

10:09

smoke came out with the publicly or of

10:11

the tip or deafening came from then that?

10:13

The reason they took such a hit and

10:15

term suspending the last couple quarters is like

10:17

a bird has been secretly buying as many

10:19

and video cuda chips as he could get

10:21

his hands on that big hit that happen

10:23

to my gallo. it was like a year

10:25

ago or something when the stock tank because

10:27

member the cap expense was so high. Yep

10:29

that's what I was. he just. Went out and

10:31

life went on to publish your Gps. Went ham

10:33

yeah. Clever. Boy clever boy.

10:36

Really clever boy and his any took a

10:38

been for it which really shows you again.

10:41

That. The Zoc is willing to look like a

10:43

fool. short term. For. A strategy long

10:45

term. I. Maintain I

10:47

think he's more clever, more.

10:50

Big. Picture than we give him credit.

10:53

oh he obviously is. Yeah Death

10:55

the dude reads like and antiquity,

10:57

history, Roman history and his hero

10:59

with Augustus Caesar. I mean he's

11:01

he's sick and of his chessboards

11:03

pretty big you know what? Let.

11:08

The problem was is it everybody thought they were by

11:10

Najib used for the Metaverse? Yeah and that's why the

11:12

market hated it. But if they would you say we're

11:14

buying a for a I. Seven.

11:17

Or eight, write. To. Think about this

11:20

is he he's buying something that.

11:23

He knows that if he says why his

11:25

buying it the prices gonna go up so

11:27

he knew he would. Like you said he

11:29

needed to take some a gonna face temporarily.

11:32

As as he looks brilliant because it's

11:34

the way the trend is going. Where.

11:36

He spent relative to the quantity

11:38

he received or will receive. Right

11:40

is a great deal, right And

11:42

And video. The story I read

11:44

is basically bound to honor their

11:46

deal with him. And.

11:49

On top of that, supply is constrained now,

11:51

right? We got him before all these orders,

11:53

so he's going to have supply when others

11:55

are struggling. Good. He also

11:57

said something that I thought was great when asked

11:59

why are you open sourcing these alums as much

12:01

of are up. I'd. He

12:04

said because in all L M is not

12:06

the core function of our business, we use

12:08

these to make our core function better and

12:10

so we figure will. Put. Them out

12:12

there see people enter it on them and improve on

12:14

them and then it'll make our core business functions better

12:16

to. I was trying to put

12:18

together what is our motivation over a matter. For.

12:21

Releasing lama to and all that. And

12:23

I think they're kind of checks out. You. Know they're

12:25

not. They're not. They're not selling their

12:27

L M as a particular Met A

12:30

service. They're using it inside. Matter.

12:32

For various things. Content. Moderation

12:34

been one of many. And enough

12:36

for them. it's not. It's not a big deal

12:38

to just release it open source. Maybe they'll get

12:40

some improvements for make their service better. Clever.

12:43

I guess Ill. They're. thinking.

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13:17

right? This this? ah, You

13:19

know, job as adding immutable

13:21

data types, outbreak data types,

13:23

all rusty sort of things.

13:26

It slowly works these things

13:28

in. Low. Key. right?

13:30

It works them in overtime. I think

13:32

it's kind of illustrate of of the

13:34

fact that we get these oh you

13:36

know roster whatever. the new sexiness as

13:38

this year is gonna kill everything and

13:40

that's usually not true. What happens is

13:42

right, the new hotness does something and

13:44

a more mature technologies. Don't

13:46

fundamentally changed, but they look at it and

13:48

they cannot borrow bits and pieces of it.

13:51

I go from there. It's

13:53

a good example of how this should

13:55

work right? The shouldn't just be. We.

13:58

Replace our whole stack and. Five years

14:00

because we you know are insane. It

14:03

should be yet when when something. That.

14:05

Makes sense, goes on and another stack

14:07

of their platform. their development community ah

14:09

miss, deftly look at it, try it

14:11

out and then see. Can you add

14:13

that adapted to yours? This is

14:16

what should have happened. Would object of see

14:18

frankly soon he knew you knew was coming

14:20

s fit a better idea I should have

14:22

like a bingo. The. Board and here's

14:24

a search figuring like they wanna. Oh.

14:29

Object to see. We hardly knew

14:31

ye. Microsoft has announced that they

14:33

plan to end their Android apps.

14:36

On. Windows Eleven subsystem next year.

14:39

No. More new Android app! So

14:41

from March forward. Or next

14:43

year and they're also going to phase out

14:45

support for the Amazon Android app are. Well.

14:48

I guess that experiments overhung. Yeah,

14:50

that makes sense though, right? I think it print

14:52

on ice. I just had this experience with my

14:54

son. Who's. Just recently got back

14:57

into plants vs Zombies to and he's watching you

14:59

tube or play plants vs zombies to and they

15:01

have all these mods is like our data with

15:03

some it's better when you played on the Pc

15:05

to your my computer setup to play plants vs

15:07

zombies to and I say sir kid. How

15:10

hard can it be? Well. It turns

15:12

out they start distributing Plants vs Zombies

15:14

for the Pc a long time with

15:16

a long long time ago and so

15:18

now people use Android emulate years to

15:20

play these games on the Pc. It

15:23

was a solved problem on windows. Are.

15:25

You keys blue stacks as well as other

15:27

ones, but it's not such a solved problem

15:29

depends on your linux set up by private

15:31

way, droid and get emotional. A couple others

15:33

and they've all had problems and so you

15:35

know is Windows buddies were just. Are

15:37

able to do this kind of stuff and he

15:40

cannot. I is actually a feature

15:42

that kids and stuff I think can attract. There's

15:44

not. There's games that are just released on Android

15:46

that they want to play. On.

15:48

The computer. Once. They get serious

15:51

about. Breath or.

15:53

Didn't assist be solved by X cloud. Special.

15:56

For some like plants vs. zombies? yeah maybe if

15:58

they put it on their yeah russ. Could

16:00

I have no idea? Yeah, course he

16:02

wants to moderate. Ah yeah, that's like

16:05

my boy to were modern things. Yeah,

16:07

yeah, that's offensive gray. One last bit

16:09

of Microsoft News I just wanted to

16:11

get to because this is gonna be

16:14

shortly after this episode comes out. The

16:16

week after this episode comes out, Microsoft

16:18

has an event scheduled. And.

16:20

They really really want you to buy a surface

16:22

laptop. Six gonna have an Oh lead in their.

16:25

Odds can have some sort of Intel Core

16:27

Ultra version and is also supposedly going to

16:30

be an Arm Snapdragon X Elite version. As.

16:33

Or Intel Core Ultra, or a

16:35

Snapdragon. And. Your and have a

16:37

new surface surface. Pro Tennis well. Some

16:40

a laptop, six. Microsoft.

16:42

Going to call them. A I

16:44

pcs they're going to be out

16:46

that board now. They're

16:49

going to have an Ai Explorer

16:51

addition supposedly. Center. Be that.

16:55

I was actually got into it until I saw that

16:57

Brandy Chris apple just of the same thing with their

16:59

laptops. They said they were like the best A I

17:02

consumer laptops. Slots. Everybody's going to be

17:04

positioning these things now. But. I

17:06

wonder how they can? how Microsoft

17:08

can make that claim unless. They're

17:11

having. Some sort of solution to

17:13

to there are no. I

17:15

mean I know they have a snap. Maybe they're

17:18

snapdragons? have snapdragon versions? have some her processors. I'm

17:20

just not so sure about that. They

17:22

say though, that is the a Snapdragon

17:25

version should have excellent battery life and

17:27

potentially will have cellular connectivity. While.

17:29

The arm compatibility isn't all their, it's getting

17:31

better. But of course

17:33

they just dropped Android support so one of those

17:36

i think one of the benefits of hand abby

17:38

we are version of Android. They beat us when

17:40

away. But. Perhaps your future

17:42

laptop awaits you. are Microsoft A

17:44

I First Laptop. With. Wsl ready

17:47

to go to run all your a

17:49

I'd Europe's ha ha I don't think

17:51

so. I

17:53

try to or I will. The here's the last thing I got for

17:55

you before we run like a told you it's a it's mom's goulash.

17:58

I. Just thought this hit right. And.

18:01

I just. Like. To sometimes bring

18:03

it back to the business side of

18:05

things and Jeff Bezos Your body was

18:07

getting interviewed and. He. Is very

18:09

simple but logical view on what makes

18:11

for a good business and what makes

18:13

for a bad business. The. Guy

18:15

might know what he's talking about, so I wanted to

18:17

grab that clip since. Do. It talk

18:19

about the business side of things are very

18:22

frequently get the question. Was

18:24

gonna say in the next ten

18:26

years and that is an interesting

18:28

question. very common what are almost

18:30

never get. The question was not

18:32

going to change and the last

18:35

ten years of I submit see

18:37

you that that second question is

18:39

as for the more important of

18:41

the to because you can build

18:43

a business strategy around the things

18:45

that are stable in time and

18:47

so as you pointed out and

18:49

are it's obvious us we know

18:51

the clusters want low prices. And

18:54

I know there's gonna be true ten years from

18:56

now. They want fast delivery. I

18:59

want. Vast selection is impossible to imagine a

19:01

future Ten years allow for a customer comes

19:03

up to me and so stuff I love

19:05

Amazon has a Swiss. The prices were little

19:08

higher. You

19:10

know how you I I love Amazon. I just

19:12

wish he delivered a little more slower. Impossible.

19:15

And so that effort that we put

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in for those same spending those things

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up we know that energy we put

19:22

into it today will still be paying

19:24

dividends for our customers ten years from

19:27

now and so those when you have

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for the the you know is true.

19:31

Even over the long term you can

19:34

afford to put a lot of energy

19:36

into on a to be was. The

19:38

big ideas are also. Pretty straightforward,

19:40

it's impossible for me to imagine

19:43

that ten years from now, somebody

19:45

is gonna say i love eight

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of us I just wish it

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were a little less reliable. Or

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you would raise prices. The

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should be a little more expensive or and.

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The of us and I wish

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you would innovate and improve. the

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Ac. eyes are slightly slower rate.

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20:09

imagine, And so the big ideas

20:11

in business are often very obvious,

20:13

but it's very hard to maintain

20:15

a firm grasp of the obvious

20:18

at all times. But if you

20:20

can do that and incomes and

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concede to spin of those flywheels

20:24

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as as we're doing with eight

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of us over time, You

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build a better and better service for your

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customers on the things that genuinely matter to

20:34

them. I guess a bit of seemed a

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little insightful in there is that he says

20:38

is obvious but it's not always easy to

20:40

keep the obvious in front of you. write

20:42

it can even distracted you pulled away from

20:45

it. And. There's so much going on right

20:47

now that there's I felt like some wisdom in

20:49

there is figure out what will remain consistent. Throughout.

20:52

Time. And then

20:54

hold those obvious things tight. And don't let the

20:56

world. Change. Your mind. I

20:59

feel like there's actually some pretty sound advice in there

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from the old reached If Basis, who's now once again

21:03

the world's richest man because he loves. Tesla

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stocks him and the most powerful

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Florida man. Oh

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right, yeah. Day. Just

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cast out eight billion stock there in Miami because

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he i would have been taxed up the i

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