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ate since the pandemic downtown. If I'm not

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mistaken, I can't think if I had. It's

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probably right. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's been a minute. It's been a bit.

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It's been a minute. It was really nice.

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the city. We had a nice night out. We took a week off,

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so there wasn't any video or any of that stuff, but we're back.

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And very specifically, we're back. the

2:01

week of Super Tuesday.

2:03

It is, yeah. Super Tuesday, two

2:05

days ago, Nikki Haley cleaned up

2:08

and then cleaned her desk out. She

2:12

was escorted out by the

2:14

security guards. She

2:18

wasn't going anywhere. She was never going anywhere. I

2:20

think she got something like 90 total delegates and

2:22

Trump has like a thousand delegates. Yeah, it's that,

2:25

you knew that Trump was gonna, Trump was gonna be the person

2:27

who's gonna, and the same with Biden. I

2:30

mean, there was other people on the ticket,

2:32

but one of them was like Marion Williamson

2:34

or whatever. They don't matter. It doesn't matter.

2:36

It's not gonna matter. So it's gonna be

2:38

Trump and Biden again, who are duking it

2:40

out. Boy, how exciting. Yikes. And

2:42

so they're gonna be, but what

2:44

you get a chance to see though

2:47

this week and what happened recently with

2:49

the Supreme Court was they had that

2:52

ruling. They, Colorado had taken him off

2:54

the ballot. A couple other places were

2:56

waiting on that Colorado.

2:59

verdict, right? So Maine had done it. Illinois

3:01

had done it a couple places that said,

3:03

we're taking him off. A couple of places

3:06

started taking Biden off for

3:09

retaliation purposes. What's Biden off?

3:11

Really? There was a couple

3:13

of states that had threatened to do

3:15

it. Under what pretent also insurrection? Yeah,

3:17

I think they would probably claim the

3:20

same thing. And so it

3:22

went to the Supreme Court. I covered it on the other

3:24

show that I do lawful assembly. And really,

3:27

first time I ever listened to Supreme Court,

3:29

I've never listened to like just the audio.

3:31

The oral arguments. And I was really, it

3:33

was an impressive, very

3:36

hard to follow. It took me three

3:38

tries to listen to it to really, I think I got

3:40

a grasp on it, but really

3:42

interesting conversation. One of

3:44

the things that I think that is

3:47

kind of cool is the guy who I do it with, he

3:50

predicted it would be a unanimous decision on

3:53

the show. He was like, that's gonna be unanimous decision. I was

3:55

like, get the fuck out of here. I was like, get the

3:57

fuck out of here. I was like, there's no way they're gonna

3:59

deal with it. and it was fucking unanimous.

4:01

Now in some of the metadata, which is

4:03

interesting, I don't know if you saw this,

4:05

but on the PDF that they released, which

4:07

is the ruling, in

4:09

the metadata, they had, like there was

4:11

gonna be a descent. So one of

4:14

them was actually gonna do a descent.

4:16

Really? But it was

4:18

removed and now they're all, it's like,

4:20

I concur, but here's my problems, you know, one

4:22

of those things. Okay, yeah, right, right, right. And so that was

4:24

at the bottom, but initially it was gonna be, I think it

4:26

was gonna be A1, and

4:28

then they decided instead to rein everybody in.

4:31

I wonder if they did like a horse

4:33

trading on that too. You know what? Where

4:36

they just like, don't look, look, here, we'll give

4:38

you, you give us this, and

4:41

we'll give you the Trump immunity case. Oh

4:43

my God. We'll be, you know, I wonder.

4:45

Fucking hell, man. I know they're not supposed

4:47

to, but I'm not putting anything past. I

4:49

wonder, I mean, you can't, I can't tell

4:51

what happens in those channels. What I wonder,

4:53

and I don't know, like procedurally, like after

4:55

the oral arguments are heard, after the briefs

4:57

are read and all of that stuff, do

5:00

they get together and talk? I

5:02

hope so. I hope they get together and

5:04

like play ping pong in like a Google room. You

5:06

know, like one of those Google break rooms where they

5:09

have, you know, popcorn machine.

5:11

Yeah, and they've got that pop

5:13

shot basketball thing. Yeah, they

5:16

actually, they do have a basketball court

5:19

in the Supreme Court building, and it's the highest court in

5:21

the land. Is it

5:23

really? It really genuinely is, and they call it

5:25

the highest court. Well, you're not

5:27

kidding. I'm not kidding. No, that's not a joke. A

5:29

basketball court there. Yeah, that's what I meant. I bet

5:32

RBJ cleaned up. I bet she was fucking like under

5:34

the leg dunk. She's

5:37

fucking hard in the paint and the setter, just

5:39

fucking checking people out. She brings

5:41

Scalia out and leap frogs in and just dunks. Just

5:44

fucking, but anyway. Not anymore. I think,

5:46

well, I mean, it's easier to jump

5:49

over now. They're both easier to jump

5:51

over. But

5:53

it was interesting to see that the way this

5:56

turned out and one of the things

6:00

I want to read part of this Tom

6:02

because there's a there's a line from Amy

6:04

Coney Barrett that I was like I was

6:06

like shut the fuck up. Oh my god.

6:08

Is this a civility bullshit? Yeah, she's so

6:10

she says fucking Amy Coney Barrett You your

6:12

fucking civility makes me wanna puke

6:15

the court Here's a quote from Amy

6:18

Coney Barrett The court has settled a

6:20

politically charged issue in the volatile season

6:22

of a presidential election Particularly

6:24

in this circumstance Writings

6:26

on the court should turn

6:29

the national temperature down not up

6:31

and she said that as

6:33

a woman was Forced to give birth to a

6:35

rape baby Like

6:41

you say that and you

6:43

you're like, oh we should turn the temperature down

6:45

But you literally tore rights away from

6:48

50 per 50 plus

6:50

percent of the population Yeah,

6:52

that is such an egregiously

6:54

unfair and disingenuous and hypocritical

6:57

Bullshit position for her to have

6:59

taken I it made me

7:01

sick when I read that I'm like get the

7:04

fuck out of here after the dobs decision get

7:06

the fuck out of here forever You never get

7:08

to say hey We all need to

7:10

be a little more civil easy for you to

7:12

say when you already fucking ruined the country Yeah,

7:14

right. Yeah, like get the fuck out of here.

7:16

I think one of the things that Makes

7:19

me think you know, we all knew that it was going

7:21

to go this way I don't think that there was anybody

7:23

out there that was that was saying we talked about it

7:25

before there's no There was no doubt that

7:27

it was going to go this way It was just going to

7:30

it was going to be a decision on how how far it

7:32

right and one

7:34

of the things that One of

7:36

the pieces of reasoning that I heard and that's in

7:39

this article that I do kind of agree with Is

7:42

that they said? it

7:44

was at this time that

7:47

Federal power was trying to be

7:49

consolidated away from the states so

7:52

it should be that this

7:54

should be a federal power and

7:56

not a state power to allow something

7:58

like this and And so I

8:00

understand sort of the history of it

8:02

and it makes a little sense, right?

8:04

You're just, you have a fractured nation,

8:07

a group of states tried to pull

8:09

away from the nation so they could own other

8:11

people. And so the consolidating

8:15

that power afterwards in this

8:17

amendment does make some sense.

8:19

But I also feel like their

8:22

reasoning behind why didn't,

8:25

why that we shouldn't do it didn't make any sense

8:27

at all. And they're saying, well, then just take people

8:30

off and I'm like, well, there has to be

8:32

an insurrection, right? Yeah, man, I felt super

8:34

confused. I didn't listen to the oral arguments. So

8:36

I want to acknowledge that. I

8:38

read a handful of articles. So I am not

8:40

very knowledgeable. I read a handful of articles in

8:42

like the Times and the polls, et cetera. Did

8:45

not listen or read the amicus briefs, you know, like

8:47

so. But like, I

8:50

think one of the core arguments

8:53

was that the section

8:55

three of the 14th amendment is

8:57

not self-executing. And

9:00

I know that that's what they said,

9:02

but I also don't understand really functionally,

9:04

why not? How do

9:06

you know? And what does that really mean? And

9:08

it feels like this court, they

9:10

are textualists when it's fucking convenient. That's

9:12

all that seems to me too. And

9:14

then all of a sudden they're contextualists

9:17

when it's convenient for them, right? All of

9:19

a sudden this is a reconstruction era. We

9:22

have to think back to the consolidation of

9:24

powers and what was the broader overall intent,

9:26

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you're being a

9:28

contextualist, not a textualist. And

9:30

I was like, I don't fucking understand

9:33

what, this is leapfrog, hypocritical bullshit, but

9:35

then I'm also like, well,

9:37

I must be wrong. I must be because all

9:40

the liberal justices fundamentally agree as well.

9:43

So there must be some

9:45

legal element to this that has

9:47

technical minutia that I just frankly, despite

9:49

trying to read about it, can't

9:51

seem to wrap my tiny functional brain around.

9:54

I think that when I listened to the

9:56

arguments, it really showed me that the liberal

9:58

justices, I felt like they didn't agree. with

10:00

most of it. But I think they all kind

10:02

of agree that it shouldn't be up to the

10:04

state to decide who's on the ballot. It

10:06

should be sort of up to Congress to get

10:09

rid of a person who is an insurrectionist. That's

10:11

what it felt like everybody was saying. Yeah. And

10:14

if it's not self-executing, how does it

10:17

happen, right? Does it have to happen

10:19

in a way where, and

10:21

that's the next story, this Jamie

10:23

Raskin, he's actually coming up, he's

10:25

like, fine, if you're gonna put it on us,

10:27

if you're gonna put it on the lawmakers, then

10:29

we'll just create a bill to kick Trump off

10:32

the ballot. And no, it might not go anywhere.

10:34

Right, it's probably not, right? But still, it's

10:36

great to have people, I

10:39

just wanna see stuff go through and then have people

10:41

put their name on it. I'm so sick of this.

10:44

People in the halls

10:47

of power stop things from

10:49

happening and then nothing

10:51

happens. And there's never a track record of

10:54

where they stand on these things. And they could say

10:57

all this bullshit at the mic and

10:59

sometimes it doesn't mean anything or go

11:02

anywhere. And it doesn't really solidify their

11:04

position. Solidify your position with a vote.

11:07

Yeah, man, I agree. Where

11:09

I get even more angry is that more often than

11:11

not, what happens with this stuff is it never even

11:13

goes up for a vote. They

11:15

cock block this stuff before it even goes to

11:17

a vote. That's what I'm saying, is

11:20

that you'll never get an opportunity to vote for it. But like

11:23

a lot of people, they just grandstand, they

11:25

never write legislation. So like a

11:27

bunch of people have never written any legislation

11:29

at all. Like a huge number of legislators

11:31

have not done any legislating. And

11:33

then so they just do all

11:36

the speech making, but then they don't actually

11:38

sponsor bills. They don't actually write any legislation.

11:40

And then when legislation gets written, it doesn't

11:43

get voted on. And the whole system seems

11:45

so wildly dysfunctional. And then we

11:47

have over here, and again, I know

11:49

that I'm wrong, so I wanna acknowledge

11:51

that I know I'm wrong, but we

11:53

have the constitution. And number 14, section

11:55

three seems really textually clear, but

11:58

then we also have to make a law. for

12:01

the thing to happen that is over here,

12:03

but I don't have to make a specific

12:05

law to go make sure I can get

12:07

a gun. So some stuff is

12:09

self-executing and some stuff isn't. And how do

12:11

you know which? Like the, I

12:13

feel like they're just playing games. I really do.

12:15

It feels like a bunch of games. This

12:18

court in particular has

12:20

been all over the map

12:23

when it comes to deciding whether or not

12:25

they're gonna be textualists today or

12:28

if they're gonna be states rights today. Because

12:30

sometimes they are and sometimes they're not. I

12:32

mean, look at the difference between Dobbs and

12:34

this. Have Dobbs is, well,

12:36

let's throw it back to the states. This,

12:38

no, it's not the state's power. And so

12:40

they're all over the place when it comes

12:42

to that. I just covered, I just recorded

12:44

with Craig this week, the bump stock ban.

12:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. We just heard the

12:49

bump stock ban oral argument that went through

12:51

and I read some of the amicus

12:53

briefs and things like that. And you

12:55

could tell that they're gonna again, be

12:58

very strict textualists. And that's gonna be sort

13:00

of where they're gonna be on it. You

13:02

can tell just sort of by how they

13:04

talk about it. But just like you said,

13:06

they're all over the board on it. They're

13:08

constantly, this week I'm this, this week I'm

13:10

that. And then we get to the decision

13:12

I already want. Yeah, and that's it. And

13:16

I say it on the other show too, is

13:18

that how do I massage the

13:20

rule of law to fit

13:22

my already preconceived notion? And

13:24

that's what they've been doing since the

13:27

beginning. And it feels like, we're

13:29

supposed to look at those justices and say,

13:31

we hired you, we don't have the same

13:33

politics, but I hope you look at the

13:35

law in a way that takes everything into

13:37

account. But instead what we get is a

13:40

guy who's already got his mind made up before

13:42

anything, before he even gets any briefs, he already

13:44

knows how he wants to rule or she already

13:46

knows how they wanna rule. And the bump stock

13:48

thing as I understand it, is basically like the

13:50

law says that a machine gun is something that

13:52

shoots multiple rounds of the single pull of the

13:54

trigger. And they're trying to say,

13:56

well, a bump stock, actually the trigger gets pulled

13:58

it's literally the entire time. Yeah,

14:01

so it's not it doesn't fit and it's like Functionally

14:04

identical to a machine gun. It's nine

14:06

bullets a second the problem is is

14:08

that it's more than that It's

14:10

11 bullets a second. Oh my god. I timed it.

14:13

I did a I did you so so I went

14:15

on YouTube and I found a guy who did

14:17

who did a bump stock and then he

14:19

shot just shot and He

14:22

got off 19 rounds with

14:24

the other with just pulling it in I

14:28

Forget exactly what the time was and

14:30

then in three point three seconds. He

14:32

did 37 rounds Jesus

14:35

Christ with the bump stock and there's

14:37

and if you hear the two sounds

14:40

together, there's no mistaking them and The

14:43

big argument is they're saying that it has

14:45

to depress the trigger multiple times But

14:48

my argument to them would be you're just

14:50

moving the trigger So the trigger

14:52

is no longer that little piece of metal the

14:54

trigger is now the barrel the whole barrel When

14:56

you when and when I pull it back the

14:59

recoil automatically fires it right? And so when

15:01

I pull that thing back the trigger doesn't

15:03

matter because the triggers essentially blocked right the

15:05

trigger now is the barrel So that that

15:07

to me it's like and it's and it's

15:09

one pull of the barrel can fire that

15:11

much So it doesn't your argument doesn't make

15:13

sense, but you want to massage it to

15:15

make it make it. It's nonsense. It's complete

15:18

It's complete nonsense and it's it's

15:20

this Rhetorical gamesmanship bullshit. Yeah

15:22

that they're trying to play in order to be

15:24

like well, you know I mean if you read

15:26

if you read it very carefully what it really

15:28

says in it's like, all right Well, all right

15:30

There's these are the words and if you read

15:32

just the words the words say a single pull

15:34

the trigger and it's like All right. Well, let's

15:36

just read it. Just the words of section 3

15:38

of the 14th of my mouth Oh,

15:41

you know, that's actually not self-executed just so

15:43

you know what they said even mean. It

15:45

doesn't mean anything That's just sounds your face.

15:47

Yeah That's nothing

16:07

I don't know how to feel about this. New York Times.

16:10

I feel bad about it actually, to be honest.

16:12

I'm not happy about it. I don't think it's

16:14

especially his comments. Yeah. So

16:17

Mitch McConnell stepping down. Go ahead. Mitch McConnell to

16:19

step down as leader at the end of the year.

16:21

Want to clarify he is not stepping down from

16:23

the Senate. He'll serve out his whole term, which

16:25

ends in 2027, I believe. But

16:28

he is stepping down as the leader of

16:30

the Republican party in the Senate. And he's

16:33

doing it specifically. The language he uses is

16:35

that my leadership is

16:38

not something that I think people

16:40

want anymore. They want a different

16:42

brand of leadership from a different

16:44

part of the party. He's

16:46

like, if I am anything, I understand

16:49

how politics work. And

16:51

his comments are basically there is

16:54

a farther right contingent than me.

16:57

They want things that I don't think we

16:59

should be doing. And they

17:01

want to stop things that I think we should

17:03

be doing. It's very specifically Ukraine aid. And

17:07

he says, fine, I'm just going to step down.

17:09

And he said he will not endorse

17:11

the person who comes after him.

17:14

He endorsed the president, but he will not

17:16

endorse his successor. He said already. Yeah. Well,

17:19

this feels like a giant pussy

17:22

fucking move from Mitch

17:24

McConnell to cede the party

17:26

to the raving howling lunatics.

17:28

Yes. Yeah. Because

17:30

he does like what? Tired of fighting? He said

17:32

something like, you know, it is

17:35

a lesser known virtue to know when

17:37

it's time for

17:39

you to step down. You know, and then they just want to

17:41

like, and he's sort of saying

17:44

like, you know, my time has passed.

17:46

And he's sort of kind of throwing

17:48

a jibe at other people who are

17:50

advanced in their years who are continuing

17:52

to fight in politics. And

17:54

like, fundamentally, I agree like a bunch

17:56

of fucking people all need to quit.

17:58

I get that. But I'm also fully

18:01

of the opinion that one, this is a

18:03

giant pussy move. And then what it functionally

18:05

does is it takes a guy who has

18:07

acted as one of the most successful, like

18:10

legislative cock blockers in all

18:12

of history out of

18:14

the way of the screaming

18:17

troll party. And he's handing the

18:19

entire Republican party to the screaming

18:21

trolls. It's going to

18:23

get worse. I think functionally what he's saying is

18:25

like, this is all getting

18:28

worse. And I don't want any part of it

18:30

anymore. I don't think you're wrong. I think that's

18:32

absolutely what he's trying to do. I think, I

18:35

think there is a touch

18:37

of spoiled child

18:39

going on. He's not getting his way. Yeah, that's

18:41

true. So I think there's a touch of that,

18:43

but I think there's also very, very specifically,

18:46

I think he's not, he

18:49

knows that he can't reign the party in

18:51

like he did for many years. I think for

18:53

many years when Mitch said

18:55

jump, every single Republican senator said, how

18:58

high I think that I think that

19:00

was there was iron fist for many

19:02

years, they followed his leadership and he

19:04

got them judicial seats. A lot of

19:07

them, he got them a lot of

19:09

stuff. He did not get him

19:11

a repeal of Obamacare, which

19:13

I think was a big deal. And also

19:16

I think for him was

19:18

a victory. He really wanted to, because

19:21

he wanted to erase everything Obama did. Yeah. I

19:23

think a lot of these people wanted to erase

19:25

everything. Wasn't he the one when Obama was

19:28

inaugurated or elected? Wasn't he the one that said like

19:30

our mission from now on is to make sure he

19:32

gets nothing done? Yeah. I mean, I'm paraphrasing. I think

19:34

that was him. It was very much along the line.

19:36

It wasn't him, it was somebody in that group. But

19:38

it was, you know, but, but I think Mitch McConnell,

19:41

you know, I'm, I'm happy to see him go,

19:44

but I'm afraid of what, what thing is

19:46

that is going to crawl out from under

19:48

a rock that's going to replace him because

19:50

the names they list in here are not great.

19:53

No. And there are, most of them are nobodies

19:55

or people you don't really know. So

19:57

it's, it's, you're going to, you're going to have

19:59

somebody who. It's gonna be like a

20:01

Mike Johnson, right? Yep. Somebody's gonna call him

20:03

in and they're just gonna have massive

20:05

skeletons in the closet Shit that

20:07

they like they're gonna be crazy far, right?

20:10

And and we're in a we're in a bad place

20:13

with the with I mean as

20:15

long as they can stay in the minority It

20:17

doesn't matter as much but if they come into

20:19

the majority, oh, it's a shit show, man. Yikes.

20:21

They I really believe That

20:24

we are at an existential crossroads for

20:26

the nation in November

20:29

I I believe that I think that if

20:31

we get a Republican super majority in the

20:34

in the three and like we're we take

20:36

you By to abortion completely across the country.

20:38

We could do generational damage. Yeah in two

20:41

years. Yeah, and we will yeah We

20:43

will absolutely do it. I just feel like

20:45

you know, I look at the polls to like Biden

20:48

is trailing bad He's trailing bad and

20:50

I know it's way far out and all of that

20:52

It doesn't really matter that much but I look at

20:54

it I think does everybody forgotten how bad the summer

20:56

of 2020 was? Summer

20:59

of 2020 was just

21:02

like every day like not every week

21:04

But every day was a fresh hell

21:07

of like insanity just in the summer

21:09

of 2020 was People

21:13

dying I think Delta hit or whatever

21:15

summertime We had we had people being

21:18

beaten and kidnapped off the streets and

21:20

you had you had protests massive protests

21:23

Like a I don't know if it

21:25

was Delta or something, but it was definitely a way You

21:28

wave so you had Coronavirus

21:31

deaths you had anti-vaxxers out in the

21:34

in the street then you had anti-vaxxers

21:36

in our government you had total Total

21:40

chaos when it came to people being

21:42

attacked during protests Yeah, so protests being

21:44

be thrown into vans and shit, man.

21:46

It was really a terrible time. It

21:49

was really genuinely a terrible I feel

21:51

like that was the Trump administration and

21:53

then and then in the middle of

21:55

it He walked across he got a

21:57

helicopter to shoot people away, right? Yeah

22:00

You know, violently shoot them away. Like

22:02

this, I just, I feel like I

22:05

remember that summer. I remember

22:07

the chaos and the anarchy and

22:09

the complete lack of control, the

22:11

terrible messaging. I remember when Trump

22:13

caught COVID and he stood on

22:15

that balcony like a fucking third

22:17

world dictator. And he took his

22:19

mask off in an act of

22:21

defiance against science and reason. Like

22:24

I remember all of that. People

22:26

dying of hospitals having to like have

22:29

refrigerator trucks to put the corpses in.

22:31

These are true things that happened. It's

22:34

only been a minute. Like

22:37

a minute. And somehow people

22:39

are like, what was better then? And you're

22:41

like better. How, what was better? Name one

22:43

thing at all. Like yeah.

22:45

Okay. Inflation wasn't as bad.

22:47

Sure. But the inflation that

22:49

we had as a direct result of the

22:51

fucking nightmare we lived through from

22:53

the Trump administration, it's a one to one.

22:55

You can't Trump look yourself in the mirror

22:58

and think it would be better under a

23:00

Republican leadership. You cannot do it. You

23:02

can't do it. You can't feel that way. I

23:05

mean, there's something to me wrong. There's some,

23:07

there's some terrible shit that's going on. And

23:09

I think there are, there are operatives that

23:11

are on the right that are pushing those

23:14

narratives as hard as they can. Cause they

23:16

know it disrupts the left. Right? Yeah.

23:19

So the, the fight over Gaza and,

23:22

uh, you know, the, the genocide that's

23:24

going on over there right now, the

23:26

horrible, you know, genocide, and then us

23:28

funding that that's a horror. That's

23:31

a genuine horror. It is absolutely. And,

23:33

and, and, but I think like one, you've

23:35

got to think we've got

23:38

to, we've got to keep pushing against them and

23:40

keep trying to push against them and say, please

23:42

stop. You know, this got to stop. And I

23:44

know that a couple of people this week even

23:46

called for a ceasefire. I think Kamala was one

23:48

of them who called the Biden administration hasn't been

23:50

working. They're trying

23:52

to do. Right. And that's not,

23:54

nothing's happening, but they're a sovereign nation. They make their

23:56

own decisions on a lot of this stuff, but that's

23:58

our money that goes there too. But

24:01

what happens is that people will latch onto this

24:03

narrative and they'll start calling him genocide Joe. And

24:05

you're like, okay, well, you know, you're going to

24:07

make it so that people will hear that and

24:10

then they'll be disaffected and they won't go to

24:12

the polls. Now the left doesn't go to the

24:14

polls very often anyway. I think the left is

24:16

probably, they're not, the far far left

24:19

is not somebody who goes to the polls

24:21

anyway. So them not coming to the polls

24:23

is like, okay, you were never going to

24:25

go anyway. I don't know what to tell

24:27

you. Like you were already checked out, you

24:29

know, of the, of the system anyway, but

24:31

the people who would, who would throw that

24:33

away, I think they look at

24:35

this from a very privileged position because the people

24:37

who will be hurt by this will be the

24:39

underprivileged. Yeah, man. People who will be hurt by

24:41

this will be the underprivileged women and it's going

24:43

to be a real, real

24:45

bad thing. Now, if Trump gets

24:48

in office, I'm probably

24:50

going to be okay. Right. I mean,

24:52

I'll, I'm not, I'm not looking to

24:54

have a child, right? I've, I've vasectomy.

24:56

My wife and I are past our

24:59

child rearing ages. So it's not going

25:01

to happen for us. So the one

25:03

horror that could really happen if they

25:06

pull all abortion away doesn't

25:08

really affect me. Right. I

25:10

want, I don't ever want to see

25:12

it go away, but personally, I

25:15

might not be affected by it. You wake up in

25:17

the morning. A

25:20

lot of the stuff that happens is not going to

25:22

affect me, but I'm going to fight tooth and nail

25:24

to make sure this man doesn't get in office.

25:26

Yeah. I don't want him in office. I don't

25:28

understand how everybody else isn't thinking that. Just say,

25:30

I, it gets so

25:32

bad every time the Republicans are in

25:35

charge. It is so bad every time

25:37

that they get what they want. Some

25:39

new fresh hell is exposed. Even

25:42

if you are like, look, the Biden administration hasn't done

25:44

enough. Yes. Right. Awesome. They haven't done enough. I am

25:46

agreeing with you a hundred percent. Let's press them as

25:48

you want. Let's shake hands about that. Let's do it.

25:50

Let's do as much as we can to make them

25:53

do that. You have to ask yourself, do

25:55

you think it would be better or worse

25:57

under Trump? Those, that's

25:59

the only. question because the only choice

26:02

that's really going to happen in November

26:04

is Trump or Biden. So do I

26:06

think that the situation in

26:08

Gaza is going to get better or

26:10

worse under the guy who moved the

26:12

fucking US embassy to Jerusalem in support

26:14

of Israel? Who do I think is

26:17

going to support that more? Biden

26:19

or Trump? Trump is going to make it

26:21

worse. Everybody. You're not wrong

26:23

with that. You're not wrong with that. I mean,

26:26

like, like he tried to turn up that temperature

26:28

as hot as he did in office. Like there's

26:30

the only two choices are Biden and Trump. Biden's

26:32

not doing enough in Gaza. Great. Put that on

26:34

the board. Write it down. Biden is not doing

26:36

enough in Gaza. Great. Would Trump make

26:38

it worse than it is today? Yes. That's

26:42

the only thing. Like, so if you want

26:44

something to happen in Gaza, pick

26:46

the side that might not make it worse. But

26:49

the other side is 100% going to make it worse.

26:51

I also think that I just don't understand. I

26:53

also think that that pressure has changed a

26:56

lot of people's minds and pushed people to

26:58

do the things that you're suggesting, calling for

27:00

cease fires and things. I think that it's

27:03

had an effect and I'm happy that people

27:05

have done it. I'm happy that people have

27:07

pressured them. That's great. There was, I think

27:09

that the, the Biden administration is absolutely shifted

27:11

its position and they are putting pressure on

27:14

Israel in ways that they had not put

27:16

pressure on Israel before they again. So I

27:18

don't get a million emails. They are not

27:20

doing enough, but Trump will do nothing or

27:22

make it worse. Trump will support the genocide.

27:25

He will support it actively with words and

27:27

with, will not try to get a

27:29

ceasefire. The guy is like, this is the same guy

27:31

who put the Muslim ban in place. Do

27:33

you think he gives a fuck about

27:35

the fucking flight of the Palestinian people?

27:37

I'm, I'm baffled. Like

27:40

I'm baffled and enraged by this whole thing.

27:42

Cause I, we don't have a third viable

27:44

choice. We should all want one. I get

27:46

shoulds. I'm right there in the should party

27:48

with you guys. But like when it comes

27:50

time to do the thing that isn't a

27:52

should, everything was

27:54

worse under Trump. Literally every single

27:56

thing is worse under Trump. He's

27:58

the scariest person. to have risen

28:00

in American politics in 150-200 years. By

28:03

far, no question. That guy needs

28:05

to be gone. Once he's

28:08

out of the danger zone, then we

28:10

can have other conversations. But it feels

28:12

to me like worrying that you burnt

28:14

your dinner while your house is on

28:16

fire. Yeah. It's like, yeah, the dinner

28:18

is burnt objectively. That dinner sucks. But

28:20

also, the curtains are on fire, man!

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the terrifying power that

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scanners. You pray it will end and

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it will... The

31:09

story is from Talking Points. Republicans increasingly reveal

31:11

they barely know where babies come from. This

31:13

is the IVF stuff. They

31:15

are backpedaling hardcore on that IVF

31:18

stuff. Right? Yes, they are. They're

31:21

like, cool, let that just stop. The

31:23

thing is, intellectually it is

31:26

a very consistent, perfectly consistent position.

31:28

He's absolutely intellectually honest. If

31:31

life begins at conception, and I saw something,

31:33

I don't know if it's in the notes

31:35

or not, I saw something that in Kentucky,

31:38

they pass the bill through their Senate

31:40

overwhelmingly. It's not even close. Child

31:45

support would be available at the

31:47

moment of conception. It would be required actually

31:49

at the moment of conception. So if you're

31:52

the guy, you would have to pay child

31:54

support to help pay for the cost of

31:56

this pregnancy, which I actually don't disagree with.

31:59

We talked about it. These are

32:01

really intellectually consistent positions that

32:03

people are not going to like man They're

32:06

messy and they're difficult and they're

32:08

dishonest because life does not begin

32:10

a conception. That's genuinely stupid But

32:13

like what happens is that result you

32:15

get any of that money back? Yeah, right Well, what

32:17

if what if you are? Well,

32:19

so there's a couple of things that I thought about that were really

32:21

interesting So let's say you're paying child support

32:24

the way the bill is written You they've up to

32:26

a you have to pay in arrears up

32:28

to a year after birth, right? And part of the

32:30

reason for that is the paternity may not be established

32:33

So paternity is not always established

32:36

before the baby is born. You might have to do

32:38

genetic testing the problem with paying in arrears

32:40

is Unless I have that

32:42

money just sitting in a bank account ready to

32:45

write a check for a lot of

32:47

people can't write a Five-figure check or whatever. It's

32:49

gonna go how much it is It's gonna be

32:51

a lot and then if you don't write it

32:53

way most child support works is it starts to

32:56

accumulate interest in penalty? You can

32:58

very quickly run yourself into contempt of court

33:00

and go to jail on Stuff

33:02

like this but like even more interesting

33:05

too is let's say you begin paying

33:07

the child support on the pregnancy right

33:09

away Because you're a good guy and

33:11

then you know because you're not

33:13

a shithead, right? And so and then

33:15

something happens and then you discover three months

33:17

after the baby is born. It wasn't your

33:19

baby That was

33:21

the paternity test reveals at once. Can you claw

33:24

the money back from the mom? Does

33:26

the does the other dad now owe you

33:28

like how does any of this work in

33:30

practice? It's a fucking mess It's a mess.

33:32

It's a mess. It's a fucking mess and

33:34

it's a mess because it's not a baby Yes,

33:37

right. You should be supporting that woman if

33:39

she's your issues, you know, because she's having

33:41

your baby, right? It's not a baby yet,

33:43

right? You're what you should do you should

33:46

be doing is supporting somebody who is pregnant

33:48

because pregnancy is expensive And

33:50

if you impregnate somebody by accident or

33:52

on purpose Like you did

33:54

that and you should help to support that because

33:56

why should it just be her financial responsibility? That's

34:00

absurd. Yeah, so there you

34:02

go. Yeah, but like these

34:04

laws cannot and will

34:07

not meaningfully contend with the

34:09

vagaries of human life. It's crazy that it

34:12

passed with a Lot

34:14

of people I saw that in

34:16

Alabama right away They had

34:18

to pass something for I've they had to try

34:20

to pass something for IVF and they had massive

34:22

bipartisan support for it But most of the people

34:24

who were voting who were Democrat were saying This

34:27

is literally a stopgap just for one

34:30

thing. We think that that a baby

34:32

isn't You know, yeah, it's

34:34

not a baby yet And so we should

34:36

actually be passing laws that fucking take this

34:38

guy's rights So this this whole ruling away

34:40

that says it's not a fucking baby yet

34:42

was and it's like insane

34:45

to think and and and IVF is

34:47

the perfect example of this because

34:49

IVF requires a Harvesting

34:52

of a lot of different embryos

34:54

because they do testing on those

34:56

embryos often to make sure that

34:58

those Testing is like

35:00

especially if you have genetic problems, right

35:02

viability They do some real important testing

35:05

for people who might have some genetic

35:07

issues Yes, and so there's and it's

35:09

expensive to your your alienating of An

35:13

affluent group of people to very very much

35:15

so and so and so there's

35:17

a there's that's why it immediately

35:20

changed Right if you alienate individual

35:22

women, right? That doesn't yeah But

35:25

if you into if you alienate

35:27

really as affluent couples, right now,

35:29

look at how quick they spin that

35:31

law around Yeah, you know and they're

35:34

intellectually there can be no justification for

35:36

this right? Because what you have to

35:38

say is life begins a conception. That's

35:41

why you can't have an abortion But

35:44

also that same exact

35:46

conception if it's performed

35:49

through IVF That

35:51

particular embryo can be destroyed

35:54

and it doesn't it's completely inconsistent with

35:56

your own So I'm real in in

35:58

a part that that happens to be

36:00

physically located in a person is

36:03

a person. An embryo located outside

36:05

of a person is

36:07

a convenience issue. That's

36:09

an insane intellectual. You have to

36:11

hold, it'd be like scanners to try to

36:13

hold it, or how do you just explode?

36:15

Absolute acrobatics, it's mental acrobatics to try to

36:17

get through it. All it is is I

36:19

want my cake and eat it too. That's

36:21

exactly what I want. It's results based. Both

36:23

of these rulings, Dobbs and this one, they're

36:25

about results, they're not about ideology. We talked

36:27

about this a million times. They

36:30

want a result. The ideology

36:32

backstops the result. I'm

36:35

curious. How

36:37

does the quiet half of the room

36:39

feel about Gilead? It's

36:47

absolutely wonderful. The

36:51

stories from Media Matters, the moms for

36:53

liberty 60 minutes interview was such a

36:55

disaster that their allies are scrambling to

36:57

do damage control. Did

36:59

you really? I went out and searched it out to

37:01

watch this whole thing. It is so

37:03

good. They don't

37:06

give these people any time

37:08

except for they let them

37:10

spout one or two talking points, and then

37:12

they press hard in these questions. When they

37:14

don't answer, they literally change the subject. They

37:17

do not give them a moment to press

37:19

there to pretend that they've

37:21

answered this question or to change the subject.

37:23

The guy asks two or three times, and

37:25

they say they try to talk about something

37:28

around it. He's like, no. Then they just

37:30

go on to talk about something completely different.

37:32

The story is really great because the story

37:34

itself, the main backdrop of this whole story,

37:36

the reason why they have these women on,

37:39

is these moms for liberty put

37:41

out this internet 97 books that

37:44

need to be taken off the shelves. Somebody found

37:46

it and went to this place. I

37:48

think it's in South Carolina, but don't quote me. They

37:51

went to this place and they said, I want

37:53

these 97 books taken off. What

37:56

was amazing was they actually interviewed

38:00

a librarian and the librarian says,

38:03

what you teach your kid and what you want

38:05

your kid to teach is absolutely up to you,

38:07

which is why you can come to me as

38:09

a librarian and say, I don't want my son

38:11

or daughter checking out

38:13

these books and they'll

38:15

keep a list and they'll black those

38:18

books out so that your kid can

38:20

never walk away with them. They can't

38:22

actually, and it's like, that's how it

38:24

should be done, right? Go to the,

38:26

if you're some tight ass, go to

38:28

the fucking, your school, go

38:30

to them and say, here's 97 books, I

38:32

don't want my kid to take it. They'll fucking put them

38:35

in the database and then when they try to swipe

38:37

their little ID to get those books, sorry, you can't

38:39

get, all boys are blue

38:41

or whatever. Dad doesn't want you to have them. So

38:43

you can't fucking read them. That's

38:45

a problem solved, right? You had somebody

38:47

who wants their kid to stay ignorant

38:50

and the school oblige them. That's literally

38:52

it. But instead, what they want

38:54

is, they want to say, well, I don't

38:56

want Tom's kids to read them. And

38:59

it's like, go fuck yourself. And this entire school

39:01

district, what they did was they

39:03

audited those books. They got all the parents together

39:06

and they all read a book, a bunch of them

39:08

read a book. And then they had a little book

39:10

club to talk whether or not the book should stay

39:12

in the school. They removed five of them. They

39:15

removed five of them that they said, they thought

39:17

were a little too graphic for kids, either the

39:19

violence or the sexuality. It was

39:21

a little too graphic for the kids,

39:23

but 92 of them, they said should stay

39:25

on the shelf. And they told this moms

39:28

for liberty to go fuck themselves. They said,

39:30

go away. You don't get to, and there

39:32

was so many people who stood up and

39:34

talked about, you know, because what it really

39:36

is, and there was a woman who says

39:38

it perfectly in the 60 minutes, she's like,

39:40

they just want to erase me. That's

39:43

what they want to do. They want to erase

39:45

me. And that's

39:47

exactly what they're trying to do. And when you

39:49

hear these, I might actually play a clip. I'll

39:51

play a clip so you can hear how quickly

39:53

this guy turns it around and is like, no

39:55

hard pass. No. So

39:57

they're talking about tweets in this. where

40:00

they're talking about the tweets and they they use this

40:02

groomer language when they talk about when mom's a little

40:04

bit tweets they use groomer. We

40:07

wanted to know about the

40:09

messages on mom's x account

40:11

which adopts the extremist smear

40:14

with if they don't like

40:16

being called groomers they should stop

40:18

trying to groom our kids. What

40:20

are you trying to say? Well I'm

40:23

going to say that if we'd

40:25

have to see the exact tweet Tiffany manages

40:27

our twitter account. So we

40:29

read more exact tweets from their account.

40:32

This targets a librarian. You

40:35

want to groom our children and we're supposed

40:37

to give you love? Again

40:39

Justice and Duskovich went to their talking

40:41

points. I'm just asking what do you

40:43

mean by that? What do you mean

40:45

by grooming? Parents want to to partner

40:47

with their children's schools but we do

40:49

not co-parent with the government. Grooming does not

40:51

seem like a word that you want to

40:54

take on. You

40:57

know we did some polling and

40:59

we asked we really wanted to know where

41:01

are the American people on this issue of

41:04

parental rights and what's happening in our schools?

41:07

Dodging questions like those was

41:09

not an option back in

41:11

Buford, South Carolina. That's

41:13

literally the last time you hear from

41:16

those women on there. As soon as

41:18

they say dodging questions like that's it.

41:20

They never go back to them. So

41:22

they do one little segment with them beforehand where

41:24

he asks them questions and they won't answer. Then they

41:26

do this one where he asks and he's like okay

41:29

that's it from Hobbes of Liberty. That's it. And their

41:31

entire base now is now scrambling. Got

41:33

Megyn Kelly who's calling 60 Minutes like

41:35

a shill program or something.

41:37

Oh my god 60 Minutes. Lady lady

41:39

come on. 60 Minutes has been around

41:41

longer than Megyn Kelly's grandmother. Yeah. Are

41:43

you kidding me? And it's been

41:46

an institution of journalism for

41:48

decades. The idea

41:50

that Megyn Kelly, like a dime

41:52

store journalist at very best would

41:55

impugn them in any way. It's ridiculous.

41:57

Right? But you have all these people who

41:59

are so circling the wagons around moms for liberty

42:01

now. And these ladies

42:03

went on Bannon show and they read their

42:05

talking points. That's how you everything you need

42:08

to know too, is if they go on

42:10

Bannon show, you shouldn't have to

42:12

let you should be like, I don't

42:14

think anybody should listen to them. You know,

42:16

a lot of this, like you can identify,

42:19

you can identify a good person, right? By the company

42:21

that they keep. And

42:23

you can identify good messaging by

42:26

the platform that they choose to

42:29

message out of, right? So if the

42:31

only way for somebody to get their

42:33

message out is to go to some,

42:35

you know, low vet, no vet news

42:37

source, it's a non vetted,

42:39

unvetted source. Like it's garbage message. So

42:42

if the only one who's picking up

42:44

my message is OAN or

42:47

Bannon's war room, and you're

42:49

like, all right, so this

42:51

is just echo chamber amplification

42:53

bullshit. And that's the only people who

42:55

take you seriously. And every other place that you go

42:58

that you would like to be taken

43:00

seriously, you get slapped down because you don't know

43:02

the answer to your own questions. Like

43:04

get the fuck out of here, you're trash. Also

43:06

like, what kind of fucking coward are you?

43:08

Right? You call somebody a groomer. Fucking

43:11

say it man. You fucking knew what you were

43:13

saying. It's not like you didn't know. You

43:16

didn't, but you fucking knew. Yeah. Look

43:18

me in the face and say what a

43:21

fucking groomer is. Because you know what? You're

43:23

a fucking coward. You're

43:25

a keyboard warrior. I got my phone out and

43:27

I'm saying all kinds of crazy shit. But the

43:29

moment somebody looks in your face and say, what

43:31

the fuck did you say? You're like, well, I

43:33

think just that we shouldn't co-pair it with the

43:35

government. You're like, well, that's not what you said.

43:37

Literally not what she said. You call people groomers.

43:40

What the fuck does that mean? Grooming for what?

43:42

Oh, I'm not gonna answer. That's because you're a

43:44

giant fucking coward. And the same thing happened

43:46

with that Libs of TikTok lady. She got confronted

43:48

by a journalist and she looked like an idiot

43:50

because she didn't even know what she was talking

43:53

about. She literally doesn't know what

43:55

she's talking about. And then they call her and she's

43:57

a fucking coward. This

43:59

feels like. that bullshit where

44:02

somebody says some awful, you know, misogynist

44:04

racist, horrible shit. And then you're like,

44:06

what? And they're like, Oh, it's a

44:08

joke. And then you just say, explain

44:10

the punch. What's the joke? Tell me the punch line.

44:12

I don't get your joke. And they always yeah, they

44:14

can't. Yeah. I was being mean. I was just being,

44:16

I was just, it was just a joke. Well explain

44:18

it to me. I don't get your joke. Explain the

44:21

punch line. The punch line is I was being mean.

44:23

Yeah. I was trying to hurt somebody. Right. I was

44:25

trying to hurt somebody's feelings. This

44:27

is the same exact thing. It's like, okay,

44:29

what's the groomer that I don't want to

44:31

say it out loud. Yeah. I don't want

44:33

to say what I obviously fucking meant. Yeah.

44:35

There's an enormous amount on the right where

44:37

they're like, Oh, cry your liberal tears, guys. You

44:40

can't handle the truth. And you're like, say what

44:42

you mean. I don't want to say what I

44:44

mean. If I say what I mean, it'll be cool. You'll

44:46

be more like me. You'll call me mean my job

44:48

or whatever. I get the fuck out of here. Say, Oh,

45:04

yeah.

45:08

So I sent a daily beast.

45:10

Marjorie Taylor green rages that UK

45:12

Jurno's Jewish space laser question. Fuck

45:15

off. You've got to hear this Thomas. Fuck

45:17

it. Best dude. She fucking just goes off.

45:19

So let me put this on the

45:21

big screen. Here's

45:25

Marjorie Taylor green. Why don't you

45:27

go talk about Jewish space lasers and

45:29

really why don't you fuck off? How about

45:31

that? Thanks. Thank you very much. Thank you

45:33

so much. Here's the beginning of the interview.

45:36

What do you think the message

45:38

should be to Nikki Haley tonight?

45:40

Well, we've been encouraging her to

45:43

drop out and support president Trump.

45:45

Tonight is the clear message that

45:47

that president Trump is the clear front

45:49

runner. He's the winner in our Republican primary

45:52

and it's time for Nikki Haley to drop

45:54

out and support him. Do you think president

45:56

Trump, Mr. Trump is closer to picking his

45:58

VP and should you be on that? Oh,

46:00

you know, that's the question everyone asks. And no,

46:02

I don't think Nikki Haley should be on the

46:05

list. But of course, President

46:07

Trump will choose who he wants for

46:09

VP. Would you like to be

46:11

on that list? He's got a long list. I

46:13

support President Trump in any way, any way he'd

46:15

ask me. But I can

46:17

assure you, it won't be Nikki Haley.

46:19

And can you tell me why so

46:22

many people that support Donald Trump love

46:24

conspiracy theories, including yourself? He seems to

46:26

attract lots of conspiracy theorists. Well, let

46:28

me tell you, you're a conspiracy theorist

46:30

and the left and the media spreads

46:32

more conspiracy theories. We like the truth.

46:34

We like supporting our constitution, our freedoms

46:36

in America first. What about Jewish space

46:38

lasers? Tell us about Jewish space lasers.

46:40

No, why don't you go talk about

46:42

Jewish space lasers? And really, why don't

46:45

you fuck off? How about that? Thanks.

46:48

Thank you very much. Thank you. What

46:50

are you talking about? Jewish space lasers? You

46:53

do what he has? It's fucking amazing to me. This

46:57

would literally, I think 15

47:00

years ago, get you thrown out of Congress. This was 100%. I

47:02

don't even think you'd have to go back 15 years. You don't think so?

47:05

2015, this would have done it. You think so? Yeah,

47:07

I do. I think that the complete

47:10

destruction of polite discourse

47:12

as a expectation

47:15

began in the race up

47:18

to 2016 and

47:21

has never been expected since. But I think prior

47:23

to that, yeah. I

47:25

mean, right now, there's multiple people

47:27

that would not have made it

47:29

and continued on with

47:31

what the stuff that they've said and pulled. Oh,

47:35

if you look at careers that should have

47:37

been ruined by insane things, Marjorie Taylor Greene

47:40

showed revenge porn dick pics on the house floor.

47:43

No action was taken. Literally, no action was

47:45

taken. Lauren Boebert is

47:48

out on the town getting handies and then

47:50

trying to get out of trouble by being

47:52

like, I'm told to Congress person. She

47:55

did not get in trouble at all. She's done

47:57

other horrible shit too, but that's just the most recent thing I

47:59

could think. to go off the top of my head. These

48:02

guys have been, Marjor Tilling kicked somebody.

48:04

Like remember that? Like

48:06

these people have done and said,

48:09

genuinely mean, egregious,

48:11

horrible racist shit.

48:14

And they all know they can get away with

48:16

it now. And there are no consequences. Yeah, there's

48:18

no consequences for them. And that's the thing is

48:20

that, when I heard this, there was a tiny

48:22

part of me that was shocked. No, don't get me wrong.

48:24

Like I, 100% don't, I'm not

48:27

prudish when it comes to that word. I

48:29

don't care. But there is a part

48:31

of me that thinks that there should be some group

48:34

of people out there. You shouldn't

48:36

go to Congress and expect to hear

48:38

this podcast. Yeah, right? Yeah. I

48:41

think that a place as

48:43

hallowed and serious, making

48:45

the level of decisions that they have

48:47

to make as Congress. I

48:50

don't know, man, call me old fashioned, but

48:52

I feel like those should be serious people.

48:55

I actually just had a thought. I think that

48:57

the beginning of the death of the

49:00

expectation of polite political discourse

49:03

really had its first crack

49:06

of the door when that

49:08

guy yelled liar at Obama during a State

49:10

of the Union address. Do you remember what

49:12

a scandal was? That was a scandal. Because

49:15

that scandal. We're not a Europe or whatever

49:17

where they scream at each other in these

49:19

cases. A scandal, now that's nothing. Now

49:22

that's not, I wouldn't be surprised if like

49:24

somebody threw a tomato. Tonight, it's going on

49:26

tonight would

49:29

you be surprised if somebody threw a tomato? I

49:31

would not be surprised if someone tried to

49:33

disrupt him and yelled the whole time. That wouldn't

49:36

surprise me at all. Yeah, if somebody

49:38

from Congress had like a whistle and

49:40

started blowing a whistle, I'd be like, that tracks.

49:42

Yeah, that's about it. And then if nothing happened

49:44

as a result, I'd be like, that also tracks.

49:46

Right. It doesn't feel like there's anything that

49:48

you can do to him. Yeah. I

49:52

was blown away that she actually dropped an

49:54

F-bomb though. I was saying, why don't

49:56

you fuck it? It's like, you're the one who

49:58

brought it. Listen, you literally said. I

50:00

know I know fire started or

50:02

because of Rothschild lasers from space

50:05

I love to see color on

50:07

the juice space, you know,

50:09

like only insane shit you do and

50:11

say own it They're always

50:13

cowards, right? They say dumb shit to

50:15

try to get a rile out of

50:17

people in the moment they can confront

50:20

it their cowards They are may Allah

50:22

awaken the people and help them to

50:24

see the evil doings of Israel and

50:26

the United States This

50:30

story is from the Guardian AI generated images

50:32

of Trump with black voters being spread by

50:34

supporters I'm gonna put the picture up. So

50:37

we see what the air picture looks like.

50:39

This is a fake picture of Trump Yeah,

50:43

no way his hands are that big yeah,

50:46

it also looks a little weird here his

50:48

hand looks a little strange There's something going

50:50

on there. Also, what does that gentleman's hat

50:52

say? Yeah, I

50:54

think it's just it's just it's just supposed to look

50:56

like words And like look this lady

50:58

is like missing part of a finger and this lady's

51:00

got a stump It

51:03

does but you have to the thing is like most people do

51:06

at a glance I'll tell you at a glance. It

51:08

looks great at a glance. It looks great One

51:10

thing that's also kind of funny is if you

51:12

look not everybody's eyes are looking at the same

51:14

Yeah, I know somebody's looking up here. Somebody's over

51:16

here There's people in the bad is really fun

51:18

to look at closely, but it's dangerous

51:20

because nobody does It's a visual

51:22

headline and most people don't read the story

51:25

beyond the headline Yeah, and the person who

51:27

made this said they they recognize that it's

51:29

fake. They know it's fake. They don't care

51:32

That it's fake and it reminds me of that dilly

51:34

guy who read about a while back when we had

51:36

it played him And he said I'll just lie. I

51:38

don't care. I'll lie. Yeah, they don't get off. I'll

51:40

just lie. Yep There's a I

51:43

thought about the same thing actually I thought about that same Brendan

51:45

dilly guy So I knew the name I looked at I had

51:47

to go look it up because I was thinking about that guy

51:49

and I was thinking that there's a

51:53

It used to be that that we had to wait for things

51:55

to be true to say him and then we

51:57

used to have to like dig up dirt on

52:00

somebody in order to have the dirt on somebody.

52:02

And now what's happening is we just yell

52:04

shit and just try to create truth out

52:07

of thin air. It's a post-truth world, right?

52:09

I mean, Trump even said alternative facts, so

52:11

it's on Spicer's side. But on behalf of

52:13

Trump, that we're listening to that lady, Kellyanne

52:16

Conway, was it Kellyanne Conway? So forgive me, yeah, I

52:18

thought it was Big Red, the

52:20

big red guy. No, it wasn't, I

52:23

eat an entire thick fucking gum every day

52:25

and chew it up and then blow bubbles

52:27

with my asshole. He got a colonoscopy, they

52:29

never got the camera out. It's

52:31

just in there. It's like, what

52:34

are you, drywall in here? What's going on?

52:36

You don't have to eat the comics from

52:38

the Bazooka Joe gum too there, big guy.

52:40

But like, it's an old gum

52:42

that has probably happened sold in 25 years,

52:44

the Bazooka Joe. No one's gonna know that.

52:46

Those things, no one's gonna know that reference.

52:48

So Bazooka Joe, you used to be able

52:50

to get him for like five cents at

52:53

the- Piece of bubble gum. And it was a

52:55

piece of bubble gum, and it was wrapped and

52:57

inside the Bazooka Joe gum, there

53:00

would be like a little comic. But the

53:02

thing about the Bazooka Joe gum is, if

53:05

it was sitting out for a while, it was literally

53:07

as hard as a diamond. Like

53:09

you would chip all of your teeth on it, but

53:11

then sometimes you'd bite into it and it'd be like

53:13

soft. It'd be like bubble gum. Like

53:16

other times you'd go, cut, you're like,

53:18

I can't even, I can't even, I

53:20

can't even. Terrible,

53:23

terrible gum. It

53:25

was bad, I bought it all the time. It was

53:27

five cents. It was five cents. And it's super sweet.

53:29

Right. Sweet, sweet, sweet. Just

53:31

the absolute sweet bomb, yeah. But

53:34

I wanna say too, this

53:36

is something that I hope that we see more

53:38

of that they're gonna keep mentioning over and over

53:40

that it's fake. It's fake, it's fake. I

53:43

don't know of a good way to fix this. I don't know

53:46

of a good way to fix this, right? I think for

53:48

a while, every time we talked about this, if

53:52

we had any kind of idea, someone would say,

53:55

I forget where I was seeing them. Maybe it was a

53:57

comment on YouTube or they would say something like, go to.

54:00

this minute so that you could see when they

54:02

introduced that they want a ministry of truth, right?

54:04

They kept on saying that over and over, that

54:06

you know, like, because here's the

54:08

problem though. They're really, I don't

54:10

know what a solution is. And

54:12

the funny thing is, is that that person who

54:14

kept commenting over and over, they just kept saying the same thing,

54:16

oh, they didn't have a solution. No, of course they don't have a

54:18

solution. They just say, well, you guys

54:21

just want a ministry. So I'm like, well,

54:23

what's your solution? I'm happy to hear solutions.

54:25

Literally any solution I'm happy. But somebody needs

54:27

to do something about it. And I don't

54:29

know who that is, whether it's the government

54:31

or whether it's the companies that use this

54:33

stuff or whatever it is, somebody needs to

54:35

come together and do something about this, because

54:37

this could be very dangerous for our society

54:39

to not know what real things are. And

54:41

so somebody needs to do something. I'm not

54:43

saying government, I'm not saying anything. I don't

54:45

know who the fuck needs to do something.

54:48

I'm just a podcaster. I don't know, but

54:50

I know something has to happen. There needs to

54:52

be, and there needs to be, all

54:54

of us need to reach out

54:56

to either the companies or the government or

54:58

whoever, or the papers or whatever it

55:01

is. Because the other thing

55:03

too is like, if you do good journalism, you

55:06

can find this stuff out. So should you

55:08

fund more journalism? Is that a possibility? We

55:11

just make sure that journalism is funded so

55:13

well so we don't go to the other

55:16

sources. I don't know

55:18

what this is. I don't know what

55:20

it is either. I've thought like maybe

55:22

most of this gets disseminated through social

55:24

media platforms. Maybe social media platforms should

55:26

be required to put like a

55:28

big green border on anything that's a fake image. So

55:30

you'd be like at a glance, be like, oh, it's

55:32

a fake image. Cause it's got a green border around

55:34

it. But the system would have

55:36

to know and identify that that picture

55:39

was an AI generated picture. And I don't know how

55:41

that would work. Cause same thing. I'm a podcaster with

55:43

a degree in English literature. I don't know how it

55:45

works. I don't know anything. What I do

55:47

know about this particular one is

55:49

how damning it really is

55:52

that for Trump supporters, the only way

55:54

to get a picture of Trump with

55:56

black people is to create one on

55:58

a whole cloth fantasize. That's

56:00

the only way how fucking damning are you

56:02

is it that you in order to be

56:04

like hey You know would play well a

56:07

picture of Trump with black people. Well, that

56:09

doesn't exist in the wild even though he's

56:11

a fucking Celebrity for 30

56:13

years or 40 years. We have

56:15

to literally create a computer program

56:18

to show this guy with black people That

56:21

that it just send me your AI

56:23

like that. You're telling me more about

56:25

you than you are about me Absolutely,

56:27

you showed me your balls. Yeah, this

56:30

AI thing on my Facebook

56:32

feed recently. I've been seeing These

56:37

kitchens in these big

56:39

houses with you know elaborate

56:42

windows and you know barn

56:44

floors and beautiful, you know

56:46

giant stoves with like a

56:49

Hood and stuff and most of them

56:52

are AI and you can tell their AI Right

56:55

the window doesn't look right or the right or doesn't

56:57

match up or whatever But these

56:59

people are creating AI images and they're putting

57:01

it out as like this architectural thing to

57:04

be like old old log home

57:06

Kitchens and then you know and it'll

57:08

be right. It's just it's just a

57:10

made-up drawing. It's nothing. It's a nothing

57:12

It's something that a computer whipped up

57:14

quickly It doesn't exist in real

57:16

space because it's impractical and dumb and no one

57:18

would ever have it Right and

57:21

so I'm seeing a lot of that on

57:23

Facebook and it's getting and it's

57:25

what's funny Is is I'm seeing the reason

57:27

why I'm seeing it is because people that

57:29

I know are liking it So

57:32

I don't even know and and I'll tell you

57:35

time I scroll through the comments and I don't

57:37

see a single comment and it says this is

57:39

AI Really?

57:42

Nobody calling it out possible that people are deleting

57:44

those comments that the step the group itself might

57:46

be deleting those comments I should actually just from

57:48

now on just be like hey guys, this is

57:51

AI. Yeah, you know I do I my reels

57:53

whenever I like on Facebook it'll

57:56

show me like reels of like people like

57:58

doing like MMA or boxing because I happen

58:00

to like MMA so I know we never click on

58:02

or react to them But because I sometimes will watch

58:04

them I think it knows just that I've watched it

58:06

and feeds it to me But it'll it'll

58:09

show me stuff of like Mike Tyson and

58:11

I always every time you're the same I see

58:13

Mike Tyson I always put a comment in nice

58:15

video of a rapist or something like that I

58:17

always put a thing about how we should stop

58:19

celebrating a fucking rapist And I

58:22

never get any likes and my comments are always

58:24

taken down every single time and without fail I

58:26

think your comments would be taken down. You're probably

58:28

right You know what I was thinking

58:30

about you can tell me why this wouldn't work but I

58:32

was thinking about video games and I

58:34

you saw that like Text-to-video

58:38

AI that's come out where like yeah, yeah, yeah,

58:40

like you just single line attacks and it creates

58:42

a big beauty Yeah, I was

58:45

thinking I wonder how long it's gonna be before video

58:48

games are Created

58:51

by an interaction between the player and

58:54

a real-time rendering of AI video. Oh, that'd be

58:56

interesting Yeah, like like I don't know you know,

58:58

I think about the game's zork. Did you remember

59:00

the games work from like a hundred? Yeah,

59:03

so if you had a game that was

59:05

a text-based game And you

59:07

had the ability to turn that into a

59:10

real-time AI video

59:12

generation You got a

59:14

pretty fucking compelling looking video game. I

59:16

thought we just controlled by tax. Right?

59:18

Yeah Yeah, I think that would

59:20

be kind of yeah an interesting. Yeah. Yeah Yeah

59:24

Now I kind of want to play zork in

59:26

that way like Right type

59:29

all the text in all into an

59:31

AI. Yeah video generator and see zork

59:34

Never could figure that game out. Yeah, those

59:36

text-based games required very specific language And

59:39

you couldn't find like like I remember

59:41

there was one called planet fall that

59:43

I loved I played it

59:45

all the time and it's text-based and I really

59:47

really wanted to beat it and it was so

59:50

hard to beat because It

59:52

was a puzzle and I was too young

59:54

to figure the puzzle out I was just

59:56

like I think it's like a really elaborate

59:58

puzzle and it only understood You

1:00:00

know certain I also had a hitchhiker's guide to

1:00:02

the galaxy one There was a really hitchhiker's guide

1:00:05

to the galaxy text-based game. See I think I'm

1:00:07

on to something with this AI generated Yeah, cuz

1:00:09

like the video looks it looks great better than

1:00:11

any graphics on any video game. Yeah I've

1:00:15

been saving all month for this. I think I

1:00:17

need a root canal. I'm sure I need

1:00:19

a long slow root canal Let's

1:00:25

go I have a history of general problems I

1:00:32

Just wanted to post this real. I just want to put this up

1:00:34

here real quick because this is German man 217

1:00:38

vaccines has a functioning immune system. He

1:00:40

received Covid

1:00:43

vaccines and it reminded me of Tom has gotten like

1:00:45

30 But

1:00:47

but I think I think I understand

1:00:49

why he got so many Tom is

1:00:53

When they asked him if he wanted them They

1:00:56

would he would say no, but then they would give him nine of them nine

1:01:01

German guy. Oh my god. I was blank when

1:01:03

he told me Would

1:01:06

you like a kovac? No vaccine nine? No, and

1:01:08

then he just kept doing it over and over

1:01:10

no No, but I have

1:01:12

had a lot of acting Cecil sent me this this

1:01:14

week But

1:01:19

what's what's interesting is this immune system spot is

1:01:21

it me? This is me actually fine and what

1:01:23

what what I love about this story, too Is

1:01:25

do you remember all those people who were like

1:01:27

your eyes are gonna fall out of your face

1:01:29

next year? Cuz you got the You're

1:01:32

just like dude. I got like five of them. What are

1:01:34

you talking about? And this is like I got 200. I

1:01:36

know I

1:01:39

asked me so yeah, there was a guy

1:01:41

who was did he got like 47 Covid

1:01:43

shots You remember we

1:01:45

covered this a while ago He was a guy who

1:01:47

I think was Unhoused and

1:01:50

he was like people were having to go get their Covid

1:01:52

shots And he was like I'll get the Covid

1:01:54

shot for 10 bucks Oh smart and he

1:01:56

would go get their Covid shot and

1:01:58

then they'd have a Covid car and they'd be able to

1:02:00

take that to work or whatever they needed in order to prove that

1:02:02

they had a shot. So like that,

1:02:05

like people have had lots and lots of shots.

1:02:07

I have had more shots than

1:02:09

I has recommended. So I've had a shot. I've

1:02:11

had every shot that's available in the United States.

1:02:13

So I've had all the Modernas, all the Pfizer's,

1:02:15

the Johnson & Johnson and the Nova back shot.

1:02:18

I cheated the system just because I wanted to see what would

1:02:20

happen. Partially, I wanted to see, part

1:02:23

of what intrigued me, to be honest, was the

1:02:26

complete laxity in the system itself.

1:02:29

That like you go, because

1:02:31

I'm fascinated by the idea that we have

1:02:33

a credit reporting system. We don't have any

1:02:35

medical reporting system. So all

1:02:38

of your medical records are kept by your

1:02:40

doctors. Maybe if you go to, let's say,

1:02:42

one of these big groups, then the group

1:02:45

will house your records electronically. But then

1:02:47

if you just go off to a different

1:02:49

group and you don't, you

1:02:52

don't purposefully and intentionally share documents from

1:02:54

one group to the next, they

1:02:56

don't know what's going on. It's not like

1:02:58

your medical record is something like your

1:03:00

credit history that follows you by your

1:03:03

social security number or some other meaningful

1:03:05

tracker. So I went and

1:03:07

got COVID shots because you just could. Part

1:03:10

of me was like, well, fuck it. I did some

1:03:12

reading and I'm like, I'm interested in the heterogeneous vaccinations

1:03:15

system. Like,

1:03:19

yeah, if you go to CVS for one, you go to

1:03:21

Walgreens for the other. Yeah, I do go to a different

1:03:23

one. But if you go to the same one, they will

1:03:25

stop you. Yeah, that's happened to me multiple times. Oh, you

1:03:27

just go to CVS? Like Walgreens doesn't know what CVS is

1:03:29

doing. And that's crazy to me. All

1:03:38

right. So I want to, before we wrap up,

1:03:40

I want to talk about something we talked about

1:03:42

recently on the show. We've got some feedback on,

1:03:45

and so I want to just sort of like

1:03:47

do a redo here. So we talked about funerals

1:03:49

on a recent podcast, and we got a ton

1:03:51

of messages back and

1:03:53

different people talking about different stuff. And clearly we didn't

1:03:55

say what we really meant. So I just want what

1:03:57

I'm going to say is I'm just going to to

1:04:00

say some things now that I really

1:04:02

mean, and then we can talk about them in

1:04:04

that sense. If you're hosting a funeral,

1:04:07

host literally whatever funeral you want

1:04:09

to host. Like, do whatever you

1:04:11

want. If you want everybody to wear bright colors,

1:04:13

if you want everybody to show up and sing

1:04:15

a song, if you want to have it out

1:04:17

in the woods, if you want it, you literally

1:04:19

do whatever you want. There's no,

1:04:22

and I'm going to tell you right now, when

1:04:24

we cremated my mom after she

1:04:26

died, and then we waited a

1:04:29

couple months and my brother and I rented a

1:04:31

church and we used the church basement to host

1:04:33

a celebration of life. What we did was Louis

1:04:35

and I made a bunch of food that my

1:04:37

mom made when we were kids. We used a

1:04:39

recipe book. We looked it up and we made

1:04:41

a bunch of food and then we invited

1:04:43

all our friends and I wore a hoodie

1:04:45

and a t-shirt and so did my brother

1:04:48

because it was not a funeral. It was

1:04:50

a thing that we wanted to do. I

1:04:52

encourage everybody to buck tradition when it comes

1:04:54

to that. I think celebrate

1:04:56

the person how they would have wanted to

1:04:58

be. If fucking dad was a Broncos fan and you

1:05:01

want to have a big Broncos party where everybody's wearing

1:05:03

Broncos jerseys and you're eating broths,

1:05:05

do that. Do whatever you, literally

1:05:07

whatever you want. I mean, it's your party.

1:05:10

Do whatever you want. Also,

1:05:12

if your friends have that and they choose

1:05:14

to do that, do whatever they suggest. You

1:05:16

don't have to go in a suit to

1:05:18

the Broncos funeral, right? No

1:05:20

one was trying to suggest that. I

1:05:23

want to say that out loud because I think a lot of people were

1:05:25

like, well, what if they do? Like do what

1:05:27

they suggest or do what you want. Like

1:05:29

those are perfect. I would never suggest not

1:05:32

doing that. The people I

1:05:34

was talking about who came to funerals, another

1:05:36

person suggested we were poor shaming. And

1:05:39

I want to explain the people who came to the funerals that were,

1:05:41

I thought, dressed in a way

1:05:44

that was distracting. One of

1:05:46

them came in a Cabela's hoodie

1:05:49

that was camouflage. So

1:05:52

they came and another person had Crocs

1:05:54

on, right? So we're talking

1:05:56

about people who they didn't, they didn't

1:05:58

even bother. saying, well, some

1:06:00

people can't afford suits. You're right. You

1:06:02

should dress nice if that's what

1:06:04

you suggested, right? If it's a

1:06:07

normal funeral, you should probably try

1:06:09

to dress as nice as possible. And

1:06:12

they were saying, well, you can't portion people. Look, the

1:06:14

guy pulls up in a $70,000 truck in

1:06:17

a Cabela's hoodie. Right. That

1:06:20

is, the reason why you dress in the

1:06:23

same manner at a funeral is so you don't

1:06:25

call attention to yourself. That's why everybody does it,

1:06:27

right? Everybody dresses in a very muted sort of

1:06:29

way so that they can all

1:06:32

focus on the one thing that day. And if

1:06:34

you throw a wrench in that works and wear

1:06:36

something that is out of the

1:06:38

ordinary, that can sometimes be distracting. Think

1:06:40

about it this way. A lot of people sent us messages. They said,

1:06:42

hey, screw tradition. Let me tell you

1:06:45

this. You're saying screwed edition when it comes to

1:06:47

like clothing and stuff. But

1:06:49

what if somebody came to a funeral and

1:06:52

they had a Bluetooth speaker with them and

1:06:54

they knew grandma liked fucking Sweet Home Alabama.

1:06:56

So they start fucking rocking the

1:06:58

Bluetooth speaker during while people are

1:07:00

just visiting the casket. Right. I

1:07:04

don't think, now maybe I'm wrong,

1:07:06

but I couldn't imagine anyone not

1:07:08

being upset by that. Not

1:07:10

thinking that that's not disrespectful. We

1:07:13

have these traditions because they're important

1:07:16

to us. Those things are important

1:07:18

to us. Sometimes those traditions get

1:07:20

fucked. And I think from

1:07:22

now until I think maybe in 20 years

1:07:24

we could change funerals completely. Couldn't change

1:07:26

them to all celebrations of life. All

1:07:29

parties, all whatever. But

1:07:31

I think right now the people who are gonna

1:07:33

be dying soon and within the next 10 years, they're

1:07:36

gonna be boomers. And the people who they're gonna leave

1:07:38

behind are probably boomers. And they're

1:07:40

gonna really think, they're gonna be

1:07:42

really deeply entrenched in that tradition.

1:07:45

So in order to be as respectful

1:07:47

as possible to those people, you should

1:07:49

try to look as good as possible

1:07:51

and follow those conventions that are very

1:07:55

strict for funerals. I just think

1:07:57

that's a good thing to show people

1:07:59

respect. Yeah, I want to add

1:08:01

a couple of things. One, I want to recognize that some

1:08:04

of, or all of my personal

1:08:06

values around this are informed by

1:08:08

my Midwestern upbringing. And so some

1:08:10

of the feedback that I

1:08:12

saw was like, Hey, out here in like

1:08:15

rural Wyoming, people wear their good jeans to

1:08:17

weddings, their good jeans to a funeral. And

1:08:19

that's the cultural norm. Do the

1:08:21

cultural norm that what I guess what

1:08:23

I am trying to suggest or what

1:08:25

I was suggesting badly and I, I,

1:08:28

I totally get that it's my Midwestern

1:08:30

values coloring and being ripped too large.

1:08:32

But like, I

1:08:34

would consider a funeral to be a formal

1:08:36

occasion. Any formal occasion

1:08:38

has a sort of default standard

1:08:40

of dress and then

1:08:42

has the ability to have a standard

1:08:44

of dress as dictated by the host,

1:08:47

right? So I've been to weddings where

1:08:49

I get an invitation and ahead of time, it

1:08:51

tells me, Hey, this is going to

1:08:53

be a casual barn wedding. Blue jeans are fine.

1:08:56

I would not show up to that wedding in

1:08:58

a suit. Neither would I. But if I got a

1:09:00

wedding invitation and it didn't say anything on it

1:09:03

here in the Midwest or my friends in

1:09:05

California, whatever, I would attend that in

1:09:07

a suit or a nice outfit. Whatever a nice outfit

1:09:11

can, can is. Right. So, so

1:09:14

what I guess I'm saying is like, if you know

1:09:16

that your area has

1:09:19

a different standard dressed to the highest

1:09:21

level of formality, to that standard to

1:09:23

what the host indicates on the invitation or other,

1:09:25

you know, like if not an invitation to a

1:09:28

funeral, but other like notice for the family. Let

1:09:30

me jump in about the jeans thing real quick,

1:09:32

because genuinely jeans are starting to make something

1:09:35

here in this, in our area too,

1:09:37

where most people would instead maybe attend something that's

1:09:39

formal with jeans and a nice blazer. So that

1:09:41

is, that's also something I want to say too,

1:09:43

is that it might not be a suit, but

1:09:45

it'll be like a blazer and a, and a

1:09:47

jeans, like a nice jeans. And then I also

1:09:49

want to give a piece of advice to people

1:09:51

that have said, I saw somebody wrote like, you

1:09:53

know, it's a big stress to me that I

1:09:55

am, I don't have a lot of money. And

1:09:58

if somebody passes in my life. I

1:10:00

don't want to go and everybody's in a suit and I'm

1:10:02

gonna feel judged that feels really unfair When

1:10:05

I was first starting out, I bought a suit

1:10:07

from Goodwill. Yeah, I bought every every seat I

1:10:09

own was second-hand Yeah, so you can get a

1:10:11

suit from the Goodwill at least over here and

1:10:14

I don't want to say this is true for

1:10:16

everybody So if it's not true for you, I'm

1:10:18

sorry, this isn't good advice But I've been to

1:10:20

Goodwill and I bought nice jackets and suits for

1:10:22

five six to ten dollars. Yeah around there So

1:10:25

maybe it's been a long time. Maybe it's 15 or

1:10:27

20 now inflation I'm sure hits Goodwill is like it

1:10:29

hits everything else But I guess I'm suggesting that a

1:10:32

suit does not have to be a backbreakingly expensive.

1:10:34

Yeah, does that mean I'm on a suit? Right.

1:10:36

Yeah, you can get a pretty nice suit. Actually

1:10:38

if you just go looking a few

1:10:40

times I mean, I think I just show up and

1:10:42

like you get lucky every time But like if

1:10:45

you should go show up with the idea that hey, I'm gonna need

1:10:47

a suit for a formal occasion I'm

1:10:49

gonna go to Goodwill every couple of weeks

1:10:51

until I find one I guarantee

1:10:53

you'll find yourself a nice three were from there

1:10:55

and I warm the weddings and I warm the

1:10:57

funerals I did but like I said before doesn't

1:10:59

have to be a suit either. It can be

1:11:01

whatever But it should be

1:11:04

nice. It should be you should be trying to show

1:11:06

the people that you're trying to be respectful for them

1:11:08

Yeah, you know, like my wife and

1:11:10

I talk about this all the time because she has

1:11:12

a degree in communications and shows business as well But

1:11:15

you know our clothes are signifiers,

1:11:17

right? Like there's a reason that

1:11:19

people wear uniforms and it's

1:11:21

because our clothes are signifiers to other

1:11:23

people They are a kind of communication

1:11:25

for other people and I do think

1:11:27

that it is reasonable and fair to

1:11:30

acknowledge that is true and

1:11:32

that when we're going to go to something that is somber

1:11:34

and formal that we should try to

1:11:36

communicate the right messaging with our clothes if

1:11:39

in your area and within your Geography

1:11:41

and your social circle, etc. It's

1:11:43

not a suit. That's fine. No

1:11:45

judgment, but if

1:11:48

it is Try wear a

1:11:50

suit head to the Goodwill plan ahead of time

1:11:52

to have something formal We should

1:11:54

try I think as much

1:11:56

as is possible within your means to

1:11:59

make sure that you have a way to

1:12:01

communicate a formal message. There are more than

1:12:03

one occasion in your life where your clothing

1:12:05

may help you in your life, communicating

1:12:08

a formal message. Job

1:12:10

interviews, weddings, funerals, these

1:12:13

things it's good to be able to put something

1:12:15

on that communicates the message you want communicated. Whether

1:12:17

or not that's fair literally doesn't

1:12:19

matter. It's still true. Your clothes

1:12:21

still communicate. And when

1:12:24

it comes to cultural norms, we follow cultural

1:12:26

norms when it comes to everything, but then

1:12:28

we'll get pushback for suits. But you're like,

1:12:30

you're following it for the other stuff too.

1:12:33

You're following it when you're being quiet. You're

1:12:35

following it when you're following how

1:12:37

people walk up and view

1:12:40

the casket. Like you're

1:12:42

not doing something out of the norm any of the

1:12:44

other places. You're only doing it out of the norm

1:12:46

here. So there's a

1:12:48

very, like these are formal

1:12:50

occasions and they're rituals. And

1:12:54

the thing I'm saying is I'm not, I

1:12:57

don't give a fuck about the tradition. What

1:12:59

I'm saying is care about the people,

1:13:01

right? Because it's the people who are having

1:13:03

the moment. The tradition, fuck, who cares about

1:13:05

it? But the problem is, is that

1:13:08

in that moment, that tradition

1:13:11

grounds them. It grounds the

1:13:13

whole experience for them. They're in a

1:13:15

bad place. And that tradition is

1:13:17

the thing that's sewing them up and

1:13:19

holding them together. So if you buck

1:13:21

that, you might spin them

1:13:24

out of orbit. And that's not a good thing,

1:13:26

right? They're in a bad place. And so being

1:13:28

respectful to somebody who's in a bad place, I

1:13:30

don't think that's a bad thing. I don't either.

1:13:33

All right, that's gonna wrap it up for this week. Well,

1:13:36

we're gonna have a long form. And

1:13:38

you know what? Talking about

1:13:40

funerals, it's gonna be about death. So

1:13:43

check it out this when this Thursday.

1:13:45

And if you're a patron by, I

1:13:47

think it's Tuesday, we should have the

1:13:49

long form article from the Guardian and

1:13:51

then a secondary article read as well

1:13:54

about assisted suicide. So

1:13:56

check us out this Thursday for

1:13:59

that. and then we'll be back next Monday,

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but we're gonna leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed.

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