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kind of Problem-solving. Getting

2:00

better and elizabeth have to expect that that.

2:04

So what a fucking week! Ah,

2:06

unless you live in Arizona. Oh man,

2:08

this is fucking disaster. This

2:10

or it to the New York Times,

2:13

the history behind Arizona's one hundred and

2:15

sixty year old. Abortion Bad

2:17

so. The. Abortion ban

2:19

in Arizona actually comes. From.

2:22

A law passed in eighteen

2:24

sixty four from before Arizona

2:27

was even of fucking state.

2:29

When. It was a goddamn territories during

2:32

the Civil War. Francis.

2:34

Again, wars rising, not even a stay

2:36

at the time, and this is. Already.

2:40

Fifty sixty years before women can vote

2:42

Some like that. Sucks. Oh God.

2:44

So yeah, we're So. I mean it's

2:46

like you're going back in time. To.

2:49

A time when midwives

2:51

were helping women. Which.

2:54

Was a natural thing across the

2:56

country. Rank May Wells Midwives helping

2:58

women. Get rid of pregnancy rate.

3:00

restart their period centrally right? That's what they're

3:02

trying to do is restart their is it

3:04

Archer Pure free I target right man. So

3:07

that's what they were doing and midwives been

3:09

doing that for centuries and they were doing

3:11

it in the States And what happened was

3:13

this: According to this

3:16

article, There. Was a but Doctors

3:18

who who thought? you know what? The

3:20

kind of morning our business. Yeah, physically dollars

3:22

and Saudis are anyway. we could get women

3:24

out of the workforce here in a couple

3:26

a different ways. Yeah, and they did know

3:28

this is we've talked about. We.

3:31

Talked about how a lot of the. Anti

3:34

Abortion Pushback. So. Often

3:36

comes down to. Eliminating

3:39

women from the workforce. A I have always

3:41

thought of this until this article. I only

3:43

saw this as a lemonade and women from

3:45

the workforce by virtue of keeping them pregnant,

3:47

right? And that is a true facts right?

3:49

That is a true thing that is. That

3:51

is actually the case. It's astonishing

3:53

to me that this was like. Profession.

3:56

protection yes where this came from right this

3:58

was arms around This was like a bunch

4:00

of dudes being like yeah. All right. I

4:02

know you guys have been doing this forever,

4:04

but no, thanks Yeah, actually no. Thanks. Yeah.

4:06

Oh, yeah. Also like doctor

4:09

in 1864. Are you fucking kidding

4:11

me? Like you're a barber

4:13

at that point You know what I mean?

4:15

You go into the barber to get your

4:17

mustache trimmed and your arm cut off for

4:19

real Like this is think about a civil

4:21

war doctor Cecil think about a

4:23

civil war doctor I don't want to get nobody

4:26

want to want to they didn't know how anything

4:28

worked right there Like I don't know. We vaguely

4:30

know you have two arms and legs. We're

4:33

gonna we're gonna either take a wing or a leg They're

4:39

like there are seriously like there's no

4:41

there's no antiseptic yet, right antiseptic is

4:43

an invention that wouldn't be seen until

4:45

the 19 teens right as an invention

4:47

that comes out of World War one. There's

4:50

no antibiotics yet. That's not something.

4:52

There's no Anesthesia. Yeah,

4:54

that's not something you've got like

4:56

laudanum for pain. They've got opiates,

4:59

you know For pain that's essentially

5:01

all you've got the knowledge that

5:03

they're working to protect here is

5:06

fucking thin at best yeah, and it's

5:08

so awful how in 1864

5:10

the The

5:14

the protection of women women's needs women's

5:16

health. That was not what this was

5:19

about No, and it's fucking a hundred

5:21

and sixty years later And still who

5:23

is last in line when these laws

5:25

are being considered the health of women?

5:28

Yeah This was about protecting men 160

5:30

years ago fast forward 160 years ago. This isn't

5:32

about protecting women Yeah,

5:35

this is still about protecting men It's

5:38

awful The only and

5:40

and it's and like the it's

5:42

so spurious the legal framework That

5:45

is supposed to undergird this. I mean

5:47

my god, Arizona wasn't even a fucking

5:49

state yet How can the state of

5:51

Arizona look to a law? 160

5:54

years ago prior to its foundation as a state

5:56

and say yeah that one's still on the books

5:59

guys that we're all operating in

6:01

good faith, right? This is good faith, this is

6:03

how good faith works. Get the

6:05

fuck out of here, right? This was

6:07

a way, I think, for hardline,

6:10

crazy Republican assholes to push through

6:13

a total abortion ban in a

6:15

purple state, a state that would

6:17

never have passed this if this

6:19

had to be passed through legislative

6:22

action. Would never have passed this.

6:25

The right loves to talk about

6:27

judicial overreach. Holy

6:29

fuck is this judicial overreach. The

6:31

judicial overreach when I want

6:33

judicial overreach. And when I draw

6:35

the shit out of a hat and it's

6:37

not a practice, that's basically it. I mean,

6:39

these guys have, and it's states rights

6:42

when I want states rights. And it's not states rights when

6:44

I don't want states rights. And

6:46

that's happened too. We see that when it comes

6:48

to the Colorado decision. You know what I mean?

6:50

Like we wanted states rights. Well, sorry, not states

6:52

rights now. But when it comes

6:55

to abortion, now it's back to states rights.

6:57

When California passes a law that says, hey,

6:59

in California, here are gonna be the emission

7:01

standards for California. That's a states right. Oh,

7:03

no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're

7:06

all liars. Yeah, it's states rights when they want

7:08

it. I wanna go back to what you said,

7:11

because I think it's really important to point out, this

7:14

is a time that it's passed that they

7:16

have no real idea what's happening with a

7:18

human body at that point. I mean, it

7:20

was all guesswork. They're talking about the quickening

7:23

and when a baby moves and that's when

7:25

you couldn't get an abortion anymore once the

7:27

baby started moving, once you could feel the

7:29

baby moving. They didn't have

7:32

any real ideas about viability because viability

7:34

wasn't a thing until it was actually

7:36

born, right? That's not a thing. We've

7:39

come very far with medical technology

7:41

and medical understanding since then. There's

7:45

nothing in our laws, there's

7:48

very little in our laws that we should be looking to

7:50

and saying, this is how they did it

7:52

in 1860, so let's do it that

7:54

way. I know man. We don't do that. We

7:56

shouldn't be doing that. We should be looking at

7:58

current science, current thought. Current progressive

8:01

ideals about how the world works and

8:03

how our morality interacts with that world

8:06

That's how we should be deciding how things

8:08

happen We shouldn't be looking back at

8:10

some old dusty book from before when this

8:12

was a state and say let's blow the

8:15

dust off it And use that from now

8:17

on and in you know, you're absolutely right.

8:19

This is just disenfranchising women And I want

8:21

to point out another real important piece This

8:24

is almost always people

8:26

who are passing these laws are people

8:28

who are well past their child

8:30

rearing years Right. Yeah, man. We

8:32

have no stake in there We

8:34

have a system of government where

8:37

people who are almost always wealthy

8:39

pass laws that deal with groups

8:41

of people that are way way

8:44

underpaid Far less wealth

8:46

than those people who are making those laws and

8:48

passing those laws People of

8:51

way different colors, right? These are mostly

8:53

white people who are passing law Yeah,

8:55

we're talking about gender the gender differences

8:58

It's mostly men who aren't who are

9:00

politicians that they're making decisions for women

9:02

But in this case, we're talking about

9:05

people who are probably if they're men

9:07

or women on that side of the

9:09

fence They are probably well past

9:11

their age at which they have at any

9:13

stake in this whatsoever They're not at child

9:16

rearing age anymore. That's not a thing that

9:18

they have to worry about. They don't have

9:20

to worry about Accidentally, you

9:22

know impregnating their wife and

9:24

these are also people who are incredibly

9:27

privileged probably their whole lows So

9:29

for them, they're making these decisions and

9:31

saying, you know what what a blessing

9:33

a baby is Well, baby is a

9:35

fucking blessing when you make 200k a

9:37

year fucking blessing who get amazing Throw

9:39

your hands the fucking sky when you

9:41

make fucking $16,000

9:44

a year or something and you're fucking you

9:46

the best you can do is scrape two

9:48

pennies together. That's a fucking curse Yeah, man.

9:50

Yeah a baby is a Is

9:53

a goddamn curse in a lot of situations? Yeah,

9:55

you know, I mean, how is a baby a

9:57

blessing when you're an abusive relationship? Sure, you know

10:00

How is a baby a blessing if your

10:02

life is in danger or you know, like

10:04

you said if you're in financially dire straits

10:06

Or how is a baby a blessing if

10:08

you're you know inches away from getting your

10:10

fucking PhD And it's gonna derail your entire

10:12

fucking career There are a million a million

10:14

reasons and like none of them are ours

10:16

to judge All of

10:18

those reasons are exclusively a woman's

10:21

choice. Yep. I don't think men should be allowed

10:23

to vote on this issue This

10:25

has not got anything to do with me Like

10:28

what like what I really don't think so

10:30

like why the fuck do I

10:32

get any say in this like this is

10:34

like I there's never gonna be a chance

10:36

that I get pregnant, right? It's literally a

10:39

zero possibility that I will ever face the

10:41

consequences in a meaningful biological way of

10:43

having this Maybe only the women should

10:45

show I guarantee if women showed up to

10:47

vote We'd have a fucking right to abortion

10:49

in this country. You see it be done

10:51

and dusted man Yeah, you see it you

10:53

see it across the board that women most

10:56

more women vote democratic and more women almost

10:58

certainly vote against Restricting

11:00

their access to abortion. Yeah, it

11:03

wouldn't even exist if it was only women vote

11:05

It wouldn't because even when you factor in men

11:08

who are much less Understanding

11:11

about women's health care access rights

11:13

than women are obviously for obvious

11:15

reasons even when you factor in the

11:17

general population Abortion polls

11:20

really really well Access

11:22

to abortion is actually

11:24

not terribly controversial by the numbers

11:27

It's controversial by a vocal

11:30

very well-funded minority,

11:33

right? That's that's all that it's vocal I you said something

11:35

I want to tell a quick story there's

11:37

a guy that I that I sub contract you that

11:39

I work with and You

11:41

know, he's a he's a pretty Republican guy

11:43

he and I have a number of conversations throughout the

11:46

years and I remember he and I were talking And

11:48

he's saying yeah, you know Melissa and I his wife

11:51

Melissa and I you know, we were

11:53

younger. We we were much more pro-choice

11:57

Back then when we were we were younger, but you know as

11:59

we've gotten older and we've grown to understand

12:01

the world a little better. We've

12:03

kind of changed gears, we're

12:05

pro-life. And I said, Bob,

12:09

that's because it's got nothing to do with

12:11

you anymore. When you were

12:13

gonna knock up Melissa accidentally and you guys

12:15

were starting your business and starting your career

12:17

and neither of you wanted a family

12:19

and it was a real possibility that it

12:22

could derail your lives, when

12:24

you had a stake in the game, all

12:27

of a sudden your thoughts were one

12:29

thing and now that you're both old

12:31

enough that you're past this point of

12:33

real threat to your life, all

12:36

of a sudden you've had this big change, oh, that's

12:38

not what it's about. I was like, that seems 100%

12:40

what it's about, man. When you wanted

12:42

the option, you wanted the option. Let's

12:45

go back to Emmanuel Kant, when we

12:47

talk about whether the grounding of the

12:49

metaphysics of morals, you can't point to

12:52

yourself in that room not being self-interested.

12:55

You can't separate yourself from your

12:57

self-interest in that position. So regardless

13:00

of how you wanna portray it

13:02

now, you appear

13:04

self-interested no matter what you

13:06

appear. And so I don't believe you,

13:08

man. I don't believe

13:10

you. 1864, if you were 18 years old and

13:15

you fought in the revolution, you

13:18

would still be alive at 86 years old in 1864. The

13:22

birth of the nation still

13:24

has people alive in 1864. Like

13:28

you could be a soldier in the revolution

13:30

and you could still be very

13:32

much alive when this stupid fucking

13:35

bill or law or whatever in

13:37

the territory, not even state of

13:39

Arizona was passed. I do

13:41

think Cecil, this is a crushingly stupid

13:43

thing for Arizona to have done politically.

13:46

The two judges, and I

13:48

think this sort of tells you something, because judges

13:51

in one of the states, Alabama and

13:54

Arizona, the two states that just did

13:56

some colossally stupid shit with abortion. one

14:00

of them with IVF, one of them, and

14:02

that abortion ban-ish stuff

14:05

in Alabama impacted IVF. A

14:09

hundred percent that only is a thing because of

14:11

the Dobbs decision. But

14:13

the judges in those two states, one

14:16

of them's appointed, one of them's elected,

14:19

but they have six year terms. I

14:22

feel like they don't feel the same pressure

14:24

that politicians do. So they

14:26

do things like this all the

14:28

time and what you're

14:30

seeing, I think, is that is

14:32

absolutely in both of those places. You're

14:35

putting a ton of, you're

14:37

mobilizing a ton of women voters is

14:39

what you're doing. You're basically saying, please

14:42

go register to vote because we

14:44

made huge mistakes. And they even tried

14:47

on the floor in a couple

14:49

of these places, even Republicans from different districts were

14:51

saying- They saw the writing on that wall, man. They

14:53

were like, no, no, no, we don't wanna do this.

14:55

And they shut the session down. So they

14:57

were gonna try to, in Arizona, they were

14:59

gonna try to create something to

15:01

try to at least get past this law or

15:03

whatever. And the session was closed

15:06

down by the Republicans because they have a

15:08

majority down there. But I did read that

15:10

the attorney general is not

15:12

gonna prosecute any cases based on this

15:14

law. So the law goes into effect,

15:17

but she's not allowing anybody in the

15:19

state to prosecute anybody. And she's trying

15:21

to do her best to assuage fears

15:23

of everybody in the state, but

15:26

even still people are still trying

15:29

to leave. They're trying to actually

15:31

get doctor's license in California and

15:33

they're trying to move people to California

15:35

to get the care they need. The

15:38

attorney general came out and said that and

15:40

the governor backed it up, but

15:43

I wouldn't trust it. I would

15:45

not gamble my liberty. It's your own life,

15:47

man. I would not gamble my liberty on

15:50

whether, because then the other side is like,

15:52

hey, actually we're gonna sue the attorney general

15:54

for not taking these because the attorney general

15:56

has a duty and I'm not gonna put myself in

15:59

the middle of it. And I

16:01

mean, maybe I would actually because I have a value

16:03

around this, but a lot of people are going to

16:05

say, look, I can't go to jail for this. I

16:08

can't do that. I can't lose my liberty. I can't

16:10

lose my livelihood. I can't lose

16:12

my family for this. Right. Your

16:15

point about judges is really interesting

16:17

because judges have the luxury

16:19

to be ideologues, whereas

16:22

politicians have to at least to some

16:24

degree answer to a constituency.

16:28

I think that's where a lot of this craziness

16:31

is coming from with these judges is

16:33

they have the luxury of the ideologue. Right. So

16:35

they're able to say, well, you know, I have

16:38

a strict interpretation of this or a careful

16:40

reading of that. And then they just work

16:43

their way into the decision that they want

16:45

to make. Yes. They're fucking wrong. Like they're

16:47

just wrong. There's this

16:49

incredibly unpopular. And I really think it's just

16:51

hands the state of Arizona to the Democrats.

16:53

I think I think so, too. You're

16:56

talking about a purple statement. Yeah. This isn't this

16:58

isn't one of those places where

17:00

the right is so so

17:03

entrenched that nothing the Democrats do

17:05

can kind of sail their position.

17:07

Right. This is one of those

17:09

places where the right

17:11

has been the you know, if you look

17:14

at where that needle is, where it's been

17:16

landing, it's going this way. It's going that

17:18

way. It's going this way. It's bending

17:21

to two different positions. You

17:23

could see some serious problems with

17:25

people down there. And you see

17:28

Republicans backtracking on this already. Trump is backing.

17:30

Yeah. Even Trump, because Trump had said he

17:33

wanted to do a ban. And then once

17:35

this stuff starts coming in, he sees it's

17:37

a political loser. He's backpedaling like a fucking

17:40

scared crocodile. Yeah, man. Running backwards. Now, all I

17:42

want to do is watch videos of crocodiles running

17:44

in reverse. That's

17:47

all I care about now for the rest of

17:50

my feel like like try. It's so funny because

17:52

Trump, when the Dobbs decision happened,

17:55

Trump took credit for it. Absolutely. And I

17:57

want to say he was right to take

17:59

credit. because the orchestrator,

18:01

he and Mitch McConnell together, are

18:04

the architects of the Dobbs decision. There's

18:06

literally no argument about that. Like it's a hundred

18:09

percent the case. He took

18:11

credit for it. He said in 2016 when he was, or 2015, when

18:15

he was gearing up for the election,

18:17

he said, if you get me elected, I

18:19

will put in the most pro-life judges this

18:21

country has ever seen. And then

18:23

he did that. It's one of the

18:26

few things he said he was gonna do and did.

18:28

Then he did that and literally all the things that

18:30

we were afraid of happened, right? Dobbs

18:32

happens, Rose overturned, 20 states

18:35

in the union now, abortion is

18:37

effectively banned or severely curtailed and

18:39

restricted. This Arizona ban, rape

18:42

and incest are not even, there's no

18:44

restrictions at all. That's what they wanted to start Congress up

18:46

for, to at least get those in and they refused. They

18:48

won't even do that. They refused. They're

18:51

republican themselves right in the ear, man. They

18:53

are fucking, I actually wonder, and I don't

18:55

think this hard, but I do wonder if

18:57

even Florida might be a play this year.

19:00

It's possible. Florida put that crazy ban

19:02

into place, the six week ban in

19:04

Florida. And then now there's going to

19:06

be a ballot measure, a

19:08

referendum measure. Well, look at

19:11

how quickly they're backing away

19:13

from the school book ban. Yeah.

19:16

You know what I mean? Like they're seeing

19:18

their own policies. They've planted those

19:20

seeds and they're seeing those policies

19:22

come to fruition. And what they're

19:24

seeing is they're fucking

19:27

ridiculously unpopular. They are very

19:29

unpopular. And they're seeing in

19:31

real time, their numbers go

19:33

down. Yeah. And

19:36

it's even, but even as we say that, I did read a

19:38

poll this week that more

19:41

people are trending republican across this

19:43

country. Like they're starting to close

19:45

that. I saw a poll

19:47

that said Biden was ahead

19:50

by five points in

19:52

the list. I don't even know what's happening anymore. I

19:54

know it's like, what do I read? It's too far out.

19:56

But I wasn't even reading like a pregnant, a poll. I

19:58

was just like more people. I'm like, that

20:00

might be true. That might be true. But

20:03

I think no matter what, I think no matter

20:05

what, this is a loser. This

20:08

is such a loser. It's a loser across. It's

20:10

a bipartisanship loser. I

20:13

wish Cecil sometimes, I don't actually wish

20:15

this at all. But sometimes I

20:17

wish we lived in a battleground

20:20

state. Because here in Illinois,

20:22

we don't really get any real like significant

20:24

like TV commercial. It's a foregone conclusion here.

20:26

Not a lot of money is poured into

20:28

the general election here. If

20:31

I were a Democrat writing like

20:33

attack ads, wouldn't they be

20:35

the easiest things ever? Here's things

20:37

that happened. Yeah. Look at those. You

20:40

want more of that? Yeah. Because those

20:42

are the guys that did it. Also they still

20:44

can't pass anything in their own house. They have a

20:46

majority of the house and all they

20:48

keep doing is fighting over who's enough for long. Well,

20:51

it looks like we've got a mistrial. But

20:53

on the plus side, we've also got a

20:56

hung jury. Hit it. This

21:06

year comes in the independent. Trump attorneys trolled

21:08

after they subpoena the wrong Jeremy

21:11

Rosenberg for hush money

21:13

trial. He says, I'm keeping the

21:15

$15. They set up

21:17

15 bucks because they wanted copies

21:20

and he's the wrong guy. So

21:23

they tried to subpoena this Jeremy Rosenberg

21:25

and the guy is like the guy

21:27

they subpoenaed the wrong one and he

21:29

says, well, you sent me $15. I'm

21:31

keeping the money and I'm the wrong guy.

21:34

And he just stamped off with his hat and

21:36

cane. But

21:41

at least he fucking troll. I love it so much. Is

21:45

there ever been a like more

21:47

self owning cringe worthy, incompetent

21:50

bunch of fucking buffoons? What

21:53

I love is Donald Trump definitely

21:55

gets the best people. If

22:00

Donald Trump did not have

22:02

a lean cannon sewn

22:05

up in his pocket like the judge for

22:07

his Documents trial

22:10

He would be getting smoked console. Yeah, he's

22:12

doing pretty did it. He did a pretty

22:14

good job I will say in Georgia of

22:17

deflecting into the personal relationship of

22:19

Fawny Willis That was I

22:21

mean legally speaking kudos that

22:24

probably kicked the can down the road past

22:26

the election time So that was the goal

22:28

he probably accomplished I did exactly what he

22:30

wanted with the alien cannon the documents case

22:32

that woman is looking for any excuse to

22:34

throw this his way She's been doing

22:36

that since day one But like

22:38

you're not gonna give this over to like

22:41

quality lawyering. This is

22:43

not quality. Loying This is just volume

22:45

of lawyer. Yeah, it's a volume issue.

22:47

There's just like we'll just throw motions

22:49

at it Just constantly they they are

22:51

actually I was thinking that the analogy

22:53

here was like Watching

22:55

Russia Fight a battle

22:58

in World War two. It's like this throw people.

23:00

Yeah, it's like what it's just like just We

23:02

don't have a lot of Russia. Yeah. Yeah,

23:04

we can do with less Russians. Yeah, man.

23:06

That's kind of the same thing It's like

23:08

just more motions. You're not wrong at all

23:11

on this. I feel like his his whole

23:13

thing is The rich guy

23:15

thing of try to clog everything up. Yeah, try to

23:17

try to take the biggest shit you can I Pay

23:22

for it possible and then just clog it up

23:24

and I feel I feel like the

23:26

best part about this is that his as Incompetent

23:31

as his team is it doesn't save

23:33

him from this particular trial So this

23:35

this trial here that he's screwing up

23:37

on this one's a criminal trial, right?

23:39

So this is not a this is

23:42

not somebody's gonna pay any money. This is an

23:44

actual criminal trial and He

23:46

keeps trying to stop it keeps trying to slow

23:48

it down and nothing is working Nothing is working

23:50

at all in this in this criminal trial for

23:53

his hush money. It's not

23:55

working and he is Slowly

23:57

rolling towards the gears of justice

24:00

So I want to play a little game because I

24:02

failed this game with myself this morning I was listening

24:04

to one of my news podcasts this morning and

24:07

they said on the pod on the on the news

24:09

show They said this morning. It

24:11

is one of four criminal trials that Donald Trump

24:13

is involved in I thought Oh,

24:16

this is like naming the reindeer. Can you

24:18

name all the reindeer, you know

24:20

or the dwarves? Yeah, I Tried

24:22

I paused it and I was like, oh I wonder if

24:24

I can remember all four of them Which is

24:26

a crazy thing to do by the way

24:28

to think can I remember all the criminal

24:30

trials of this? Right former president and current

24:32

presidential Republican hopeful I

24:35

Couldn't I got three out of four and

24:38

then I tried later in the day while I was rosette riding my

24:40

bike I was like, oh I'm gonna play again in my head and

24:43

I got a different three It's like

24:45

the dwarves like I'll fucking remember sneeze one

24:47

time three and forget what the fourth one Then

24:49

I was gonna ask you like there's the document.

24:51

I want to play a lot of this

24:53

case Okay, and then there's the

24:55

hush money trial money trial The

24:58

the racketeering case down in Georgia The

25:03

January 6 election insurrection the if

25:05

the it's the Exciting.

25:08

Yes inside instruction. I always forget about

25:10

that. Yeah, cuz that one got kicked down

25:12

the road, too Yeah, yeah So those are

25:14

those are not it's not gonna happen right away So

25:16

people are thinking well, it's not gonna probably not gonna

25:18

happen right away and there's if he gets elected Then

25:21

it's not gonna happen at all How insane

25:23

is it that it's like? Oh, let's try

25:25

to remember all of the criminal trial. No,

25:28

man When then try to think

25:30

about all the civil stuff he's involved in too.

25:32

There's so much He's been he's such a part

25:34

of every news cycle and it sucks because

25:36

I don't want to talk about I don't I fucking hate

25:38

him I just don't want to talk about it He's such

25:40

a part of every news cycle because he's

25:43

he's such a fucking just a mess

25:45

of a human being and all the

25:47

crazy Terrible shit he's done. You can't

25:49

not talk about it. I know I

25:52

well I do I also want to share

25:54

with you my new favorite hobby My

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new favorite hobby is every day. I check to

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I checked it earlier today. Now granted it

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hadn't closed yet. So trading hadn't closed. But

26:09

it was at $34 and a quarter down from 69 and change. It's

26:14

fucking half, man. I

26:18

don't know what it closed at. So I maybe

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it closed a little higher today. I

26:23

fucking found it. It keeps going down though. It

26:25

was at 40 last week. Yeah, when we were

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joking about it last week. So it peaked at

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69 20, I think. And

26:32

then it was like, oh, it lost like 33% of

26:34

its value in a single day. And then like 18%

26:37

the next day. And then like, there's another 10%. It's

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26:44

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short. Oh, wow. Yeah.

26:49

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26:54

I'm not an expert on shorting, but like I was reading

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26:59

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27:01

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27:06

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27:08

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beginning. All right, this is from

29:50

NBC News. Right-wing operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack

29:52

Berkman agree to pay up to

29:54

$1.2 million for misleading 2020 robo

29:57

calls. I've got to tell you guys what these calls

29:59

were. Fuckin' what the fuck? These

30:02

were so fucking racist! They were

30:04

the most racist thing ever! You're like,

30:06

what the sweet fuck? It's like knocking on somebody's

30:08

door in Black's face. Are you kidding

30:10

me? Like, a minstrel

30:13

show seems progressive by comparison. It's

30:15

insane! I got you guys, I'm

30:17

just gonna read this. Like, this

30:19

is absolutely fucking bonkers.

30:21

The speaker on the call identified

30:23

herself as Tamika Taylor of Project

30:26

1599 and

30:28

falsely claimed that voting by mail would result

30:30

in voters having their personal information used by

30:33

the police to track old warrants and allow

30:35

credit card companies to collect debts and

30:38

for the Center for Disease Control and

30:40

Prevention to track people from mandatory vaccinations.

30:43

Quote, Don't be finessed into giving your

30:45

private information to the man. Stay

30:47

home safe and beware of vote by mail, the

30:49

call said. The undisputed

30:52

evidence is what the judge said. U.S.

30:54

District Judge Victor Marrero found Wolf and

30:57

Berkman liable for having violated state civil

30:59

rights laws and the

31:01

Federal Ku Klux Klan Act

31:03

with the calls. The quote,

31:05

undisputed evidence in this case

31:07

establishes that defendants' conduct in

31:09

designing and executing the robocall

31:11

was racially motivated. The robocall

31:13

sought to deter eligible Black voters

31:15

from exercising their right to vote,

31:18

subjecting them to discrimination in their

31:20

civil rights. What

31:23

is so fucking shitty about this whole

31:25

thing is when you read

31:27

the lawyers' statements in this, the

31:29

lawyers who are defending Wall and

31:32

Berkman, the

31:34

lawyers basically doing the,

31:37

you know, when some

31:40

affluent kid drives drunk

31:42

and kills somebody or rapes somebody, there's always,

31:44

well, they just want to get on with

31:46

their lives right now. That's basically what happened

31:48

here is they just did a bunch of

31:50

really racist shit and tried to disrupt

31:52

the elections, but they just want to get on with their

31:54

lives right now. They just want to pass this. They're

31:58

ready to move on to the next step. grow

32:00

they want to grow into

32:03

fucking larger racist cysts on society that's

32:05

what they want to grow into and

32:07

this isn't the first thing they've been

32:09

caught and and and uh convicted

32:12

of doing no no it's like millions of

32:14

dollars yeah millions of dollars they've had to

32:16

pay this is like the third time that

32:18

they have pulled

32:20

racially motivated election

32:22

interference bullshit like

32:25

go the thing is it makes me crazy is

32:27

this punishment it says up to 1.2 million

32:30

it's not 1.2 million they got to pay like

32:32

300 and change and if they don't make those

32:34

payments on time then it goes up they make

32:36

their payments on time then it's 300 000

32:39

and change yeah this is nothing they got

32:41

like maybe some probation for something else that

32:43

they had to do the community service hours

32:45

they should be put in fucking print we're

32:47

putting people in prison for dumb

32:50

silly nonsensical shit

32:52

right we're putting people in prison for like oh

32:54

you sold a dime bag back in the day

32:56

you know like there's still people languishing in fucking

32:59

prison for like stealing a

33:01

food sometimes or like these

33:03

are nothing burger bullshit these

33:06

guys get like fucking house arrested probation and

33:08

do a little community service pay some fine

33:10

pay some money you don't have to pay

33:12

the whole fine if you make all your

33:14

payments yeah you do it you do it

33:16

quickly enough we're you're we're cool the fuck

33:18

out of here with ridiculous and these guys

33:21

this is this is not only a racist

33:23

shitty attack where they're awful shitty racist people

33:25

but it's like you

33:27

said it's attacking election integrity and

33:29

it's attacking it's making and it's

33:31

attacking people who are in the

33:33

most vulnerable communities convincing them not to

33:36

use the power of their voice in

33:38

the one time of these like every

33:40

four years that they can actually do

33:42

it man you ever meet

33:44

that guy who is like absolutely

33:48

convinced and like

33:50

constantly like harassing his girlfriend or his

33:52

wife and convinced she's cheating on him

33:54

because he's cheating on her that's

33:56

the republicans with really is really that is

33:59

the republicans with voting, right? Like

34:01

they are obsessed with election integrity,

34:03

election integrity, election integrity. Oh, and

34:05

they're cheating on every turn, man.

34:07

They're cheating every place. They're getting

34:09

they're getting people of color stripped

34:11

from the voter rolls. They're cheating.

34:13

They're gerrymandering in insane, crazy, bonkaroo

34:15

ways. Then like, South Carolina gets

34:17

caught doing it. The Supreme Court's

34:19

like cut that shit out. It's

34:22

like, they draw at the clock.

34:24

And now they're going to use

34:26

their gerrymandered fucking districts. They're

34:28

cheating on every turn and not just

34:30

not just that there was several instances

34:33

of them actually trying to cheat

34:35

for Trump. Yes, several literally voting.

34:37

Yeah, double voting. This robocall shit.

34:39

This is the third thing. The

34:41

third election interference that they're trying

34:43

to do. Trump's literally calling the

34:45

Secretary of State in Georgia to

34:47

try to twist his fucking arm.

34:49

They're cheating on every they're constantly

34:51

cheating and then they're banging the

34:54

drum. You guys are cheating. You

34:56

guys are cheating. You guys are cheating. It's

34:58

like, dude, yeah, get your dick

35:00

out of somebody else before you call this other person

35:02

a cheater. Are you kidding me? I know, man. Wait,

35:05

what's going on? I don't have time to explain because it's

35:07

happening a few minutes. We have to exercise his dead wife,

35:09

Bonnie. Or as we don't get the extra present, we need

35:11

to save his daughter because otherwise she's going to be ravaged

35:13

by hell demons. Insane Trump

35:15

posts bizarre solar eclipse ad with

35:18

his stupid fucking head blocking out

35:20

the sun, plunging the US into

35:22

darkness. I want to, I want

35:24

to play the I want to

35:26

just show the the

35:28

image. Jesus Christ. So here's

35:31

what I want to say. Like when

35:34

I look at this, it

35:36

looks like it looks like fucking something

35:38

from The Simpsons. It looks like a

35:40

bad profile. Like I would

35:42

be embarrassed. It looks like my

35:44

profile looks as shitty as this

35:46

profile looks. It looks like maybe

35:48

call this up. It looks like

35:50

the guy from Despicable Me. Yeah,

35:53

it seriously looks like a profile

35:56

of the fucking villain from Despicable Me.

35:58

He also looks like He doesn't have a body

36:00

like he's a snake like it has his head

36:03

is leaning forward. It looks it looks so

36:05

bad And then

36:07

you not only the symbolism is

36:09

a terrible symbolism that you're covering

36:11

the entire world like entire United

36:14

States in darkness. That's not great. Oh

36:16

man. That's not great But but just

36:18

the actual image itself is so

36:20

unflattering like this. The profile is

36:23

so unflattering See so it looks

36:25

like a spoof ad by like Lincoln

36:27

project Like I can't imagine creating an

36:29

this really does guys look like an

36:32

ad created by the opposition You've

36:34

got to see this ad it's it's

36:36

insane And I'm to your point about

36:39

the the profile and how unflattering it is It

36:42

shows like all you see in it is this

36:44

weak chin like he's got a

36:46

crazy weak chin like a terrible Shitty

36:49

weak chin with a fat fucking neck. Why would

36:51

you use this as you were saying? You

36:54

would not use this It's

36:56

so incredibly unflattering. I would cry if somebody took

36:58

a photo of me like this I'd be like

37:00

you fucking delete that picture. Yeah, you delete. I've

37:02

never looked like that. Right never I would cry

37:04

I would cry I would cry if I'd be

37:07

like nobody and ever look at me hair profile.

37:09

It looks so bad I mean it genuinely looks

37:11

that but and then the symbolism

37:13

itself is ominous and not It's

37:16

not in any way positive. No,

37:18

it's really kind of Violent

37:21

and controlling and like it kind of feels

37:23

like if you I mean, I'm not even

37:25

fucking around it feels like So

37:28

big brothery so crazy

37:30

big brothery But when you

37:32

see it, it feels like a

37:35

bad like art house picture from like

37:37

a kid. Yeah making his first movie

37:40

It's embarrassingly if

37:42

we fall for this. Yeah, man, goddamn dude

37:44

if we fall for this guy It's

37:47

like we I don't know I

37:49

don't we got to get we got to get

37:51

other passports We've got to get other past I

37:53

am I'm going to Portugal blown away that there's

37:55

still this many people that support this I'm blown

37:57

away by it looks evil. Yeah, like I don't

37:59

even I don't even like that word, but seriously,

38:01

it looks like something from a bad movie about a

38:04

dictator. And like the dictator

38:06

is being like, I'm bad. Here's my

38:08

bad thing. You know where I think you get the...

38:10

I'm gonna call it back up. You

38:13

know where I think you get the piece where

38:15

you're talking about it's from Spicable Me is

38:17

the eyebrows are in charge here. Dude, they're

38:19

so crazy. They're so big. I have big

38:21

eyebrows. You're so crazy. I have big, bushy

38:23

eyebrows. What the sweet

38:25

fuck? You're a bad guy, bro. What the

38:27

sweet fuck, dude? You ever see Shits Creek,

38:29

the show Shits Creek? Yeah, yeah. It looks

38:31

like Eugene Levy's eyebrows. Crazy, man. It's

38:34

like you could set things on there. Yeah, I mean, you put

38:36

a diet coke on these eyebrows. These

38:39

are low-bearing eyebrows. Yes, insanely,

38:41

man. Is

38:43

it not a problem that the woman have

38:45

a smaller brain than a man? That is

38:47

wrong. But the government scientist, Dr.

38:49

Yama, can prove it is the size of squirrel.

38:52

Your government scientist? Yeah,

38:54

so Dr. Yama. He's wrong. He's wrong. Give

38:57

me a smile, baby. Why angry face? Well,

39:00

what you're saying is very

39:02

demeaning. Do you know the

39:04

word demeaning? No. What

39:07

the fuck is even happening anymore? Okay, so I

39:09

got to call this one up because we'll play

39:11

this one. This is from Salon. It

39:14

screws up female brains. MAGA

39:16

leaders are conditioning Republicans to back birth control

39:18

bands. All right, let me play this. This

39:20

is the most dystopian world. This is Charlie

39:22

Kirk, so I'm just going to play it.

39:26

A lot of them are on birth control too,

39:28

and birth control really screws up female brains, by

39:30

the way. Every single one of you need to

39:32

make sure that your loved ones are not on

39:35

birth control. It increases depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation. Birth

39:38

control is the number one most prescribed medication for

39:40

young ladies under the age of 25. They

39:44

will give birth young ladies birth control for

39:46

pimples, for acne, for to control their moods,

39:48

their period. It is awful. It's

39:50

terrible. And it creates very angry and

39:52

bitter young ladies and young women. Then

39:56

that bitterness then manifests into a

39:59

political party. That is the bitter party. I mean

40:01

the Democrat Party is all about bring us your

40:03

bitterness and you know, we'll give you free stuff

40:05

It's like we'll trade you, you know bitterness for

40:08

stuff. Essentially. That's like the Democrat Party So

40:10

funny so funny. They the right just really has

40:12

a lot of good games even if you hear

40:15

how he gets nothing Literally,

40:17

literally everybody in the audience is checking

40:19

their phone. Yeah, right. Nobody cares what he

40:21

has to say a couple of things that he

40:23

says Don't even make any

40:26

sense right to say that it's it's the

40:28

one thing that most people get on

40:30

right and most people then why isn't

40:32

They're like an absolute swath of people

40:35

who are having these issues that you're pointing

40:37

out Why isn't why isn't that the because

40:39

it's because it doesn't happen because you're lying

40:41

to people Yeah, and then he's saying well,

40:43

you know, they they get all bitter because

40:45

they're on this pill Maybe they're getting bitter

40:48

because you're trying to steal their fucking rights.

40:50

Maybe you ever think about that Maybe maybe

40:52

you're trying to control what they intake

40:54

and that might make them bitter. I

40:56

don't know It's shocking shocking consideration The

40:59

the the things that he was mentioning in salon article points

41:01

about the things that he was mentioning, you know The anxiety

41:04

depression suicidal ideation It's like one

41:06

half of one percent of

41:08

women that are on birth control report a side

41:11

effect that correlates to this He

41:13

says like women take this for like, you know, virtually any

41:15

reason he needed four things too, by the way So when

41:17

they say it's a one of the one in two

41:19

hundred, that's one in two hundred of one

41:21

of those four things, right? Yeah So like

41:24

these are like there are rare side effects

41:26

that do affect some people's moods because that's

41:28

how medicines work Oh, like all medicines have

41:30

some side effects Okay,

41:32

like it's not like that. This is not the

41:35

story at who cares might not be for everybody

41:37

Right that is that is literally true of all

41:39

medicine then he goes on to say

41:41

something which I thought was really telling about his

41:43

motives Right. He says they'll give women birth control

41:45

for anything for pimples for mood for He

41:48

just doesn't want women to be on birth

41:50

control because he doesn't want women to have

41:53

autonomy over their own personal freedom That's

41:55

really what's here. Right? What's here is

41:57

he's a guy leading this sort of

42:00

right-wing, embittered male,

42:02

in-cell related movement,

42:04

and they all want the same thing. They don't

42:06

want women to have access to birth control because

42:08

they don't want female autonomy. They are

42:11

all, to one of them, they are

42:13

all upset that the offer that they

42:15

make to women right now is unappealing

42:17

because women are looking around and saying, hey, financially

42:20

I'm independent, educationally I'm

42:22

independent. I don't actually need

42:24

a man in order to protect and provide.

42:27

So I don't need to settle for the fucking

42:29

low shit, low bar bullshit you're bringing to my

42:31

door. And women are not settling for

42:33

that. There's actually a big movement for

42:35

women right now saying, look, we're just going

42:37

to stay single because the men that are out there

42:39

are kind of for shit. And

42:42

I'm kind of there with them, right? Like, if you

42:44

take that choice away, you take that

42:46

choice away, then suddenly they have to choose. And

42:49

it also makes it so the men don't

42:53

have to improve themselves.

42:55

That's exactly. Men can

42:57

stay shitty, judgmental, useless

42:59

dudes who just want to sit back and

43:01

strip other people's rights away. So they're forced

43:04

to be around 100%, man, 100%.

43:07

This has always been about taking

43:09

women down rather than elevating yourself. That's

43:12

all this is about. And like, because why else were

43:14

they? We knew when they did,

43:16

when the Dobbs decision came out, we knew birth

43:18

control was coming up. We knew it.

43:20

They fucking said it. And like, here

43:23

are these like, and I don't know how the

43:25

fuck Charlie Kirk is a popular person. He's dumber

43:27

in a bag of dogs. I know, man. He's

43:29

genuinely, he's an uneducated guy. He does not have

43:31

any formal education. And when you

43:33

hear him talk, he's obviously not a smart

43:35

guy. Like he makes insane bullshit, spurious connections,

43:38

but he's got a microphone bigger than mine.

43:40

Oh, for sure. And that reaches way more

43:42

people than we do. Unbelievable. Yeah. That is

43:44

unbelievable to me because he's got nothing to

43:46

fucking offer and nothing to fucking say. So

43:48

what has to be true is he has

43:51

to be reaching into the angry,

43:53

embittered, entitled white male. Because

43:56

he's not talking to women here, right? Like he's not reaching

43:58

out to women. He's not reaching out to people. He's

44:00

reaching to the same people that Nick Flint has

44:03

guys. Sure, yeah. Angry people are

44:05

motivated. They're angry and they're motivated. And

44:08

these people are motivated to keep the status quo.

44:10

Because if the status quo is going to allow

44:12

them, and actually they don't want the status quo,

44:15

they want to roll back even farther from where the status

44:17

quo is. They don't

44:19

want women, like you say, to have

44:21

any kind of choice whatsoever. They want

44:24

to make sure that women are stuck

44:26

in a position where they're forced to

44:28

choose unappealing dudes. And I

44:31

guarantee you, Pan, you know, they're showing Charlie

44:33

Kirk's head here, which is already unappealing. But

44:36

if you Pan the audience, you

44:38

would see a slew of unappealing

44:40

people. Unappealing people who aren't

44:42

trying to turn themselves into better people,

44:44

they're instead trying to take somebody else

44:46

down so that they can climb one

44:48

step ahead of them. They're

44:51

trying to create a society

44:53

of women that are desperate and

44:55

in need so they can treat them like fucking

44:57

chattel. Yep, that's exactly it. That's it. The

45:00

question is, why should a

45:02

millionaire industrialist perpetrate such

45:05

an obvious fraud? Gizmodo,

45:07

Texas debunks totally inaccurate

45:09

claims of voting fraud

45:12

being spread by Elon Musk.

45:16

Elon is now doing this thing where,

45:18

and he's been doing this for a while, where

45:21

he will find a tweet that

45:23

is ridiculous on its

45:26

face, but is hard right,

45:30

and he will comment underneath it

45:32

and say something like, interesting

45:34

or extremely concerning, what he said under here. And

45:39

we're in this position now where he

45:41

has a huge microphone. He

45:45

is the one who can control the

45:48

algorithm of Twitter. So

45:50

he can make it so the

45:53

people who work for him can push his stuff to

45:55

be some of the first things you see when you

45:57

come in. It doesn't matter who you are, whether you

45:59

follow him or not. him or not, there's a chance

46:01

you could see the things that he's saying and the

46:04

things that he's retweeting. And

46:06

in this case,

46:08

this Twitter handle that

46:10

is Endwokeness, I

46:13

think that's what it's called, Endwokeness. And

46:16

so they tweeted out these

46:18

numbers for three states that

46:20

said, these are the amount of

46:23

people who have used their last four

46:25

of their social security numbers. So it's

46:27

not their whole social security number. They

46:30

said that these are their last four of their social security numbers to

46:32

sign up for voter

46:35

registration. And

46:37

in Texas, they said over

46:39

a million, like 1.2 million, over a

46:41

million people. And Texas, a shithole

46:44

that this came out and said, that's inaccurate.

46:46

We don't, there's like 50,000 people

46:49

who've signed up to vote. What

46:52

you're seeing is a number

46:54

based on how often this

46:56

particular system is

46:58

taxed to look for someone

47:00

with a social security card.

47:03

So you're assuming it's for voting, but

47:05

it doesn't have to be. It can

47:07

be for other reasons as well. And

47:10

they require, you know, the other thing too

47:12

is none of these places that they suggest

47:15

actually only use four digits of your

47:17

social security number. If you have

47:20

a social security number, you can have a

47:22

social security number and be someone who is

47:24

trying to gain citizenship, right? So let's say

47:26

you're here on a work visa, you can

47:28

get a social security number and you can

47:30

use that social security number, but you can't

47:33

vote, let's say. They

47:35

would know that they're the government and they

47:37

know where that number goes. Yeah. They

47:40

know that number aligns to a citizen or non

47:42

citizen. Yeah, a person. They know that person. So

47:44

the idea that it can be used

47:46

in this way is really just to foment

47:49

all those people out there and

47:51

to foment this discussion of it's

47:53

a rigged voting system. It's

47:55

a lie created, it's disinformation created

47:58

by this Twitter account. but

48:00

then amplified by the biggest Twitter account

48:02

out there. Yup. Yeah. Elon

48:05

Musk, for whatever insane reason,

48:07

has decided that his hill to die on

48:10

is all the crazy right-wing hills. All

48:12

of them. Yeah. This is what

48:14

happens when a technocrat

48:18

dabbles into politics. Like this is a guy who

48:21

is too young to be this powerful and this

48:23

evil. We should really genuinely be,

48:25

we talked about Elon Musk on a long-form

48:27

episode, we should be really worried

48:29

about this guy. This guy has

48:32

an enormous amount of money. The

48:34

Department of Defense relies on Elon

48:36

Musk and Elon Musk's products to

48:38

launch their satellites into orbit. Yeah.

48:41

Our national defense then

48:44

relies to some degree, a non-zero

48:46

degree, on the

48:48

good graces of a single oligarch. That's

48:52

not good news, man. This is terrible

48:54

news when they're like

48:56

credulously retweeting, which is effective, I

48:58

know it's not a retweet, but

49:00

like commenting and boosting, quote-tweeting, within

49:03

this platform to an audience

49:05

of however many, all this like un-fact-check,

49:08

credulous, lying, dip-shitery.

49:12

It's bad news, man. This is

49:14

a guy who owns the megaphone.

49:16

Well, and to your point

49:18

about him being so powerful, talking

49:20

about him being powerful when it comes to

49:22

the Department of Defense, here's a man with

49:24

one tweet who can mobilize the entire state

49:26

of Texas to pick up the phone. Yes,

49:28

because that's what happened, right? He's

49:30

the guy who can say something

49:32

in an entire state's department

49:35

that handles their voting

49:37

registration jumps. All

49:39

he has to do is say one thing. That's a lot

49:41

of power. That's a huge amount of power, man. And

49:44

that thing is like, unlike a politician, he

49:46

answers to nobody. He owns

49:48

it outright. He answers to nobody and

49:50

it never goes away. He is gonna

49:53

be, like, the part of the problem with

49:55

billionaire money is it is

49:57

impossible once you reach almost. It

49:59

is nearly impossible. impossible once you become a

50:01

billionaire to not maintain your your billionaire

50:03

ass city right that's an amount of

50:06

money that just by the orders of

50:08

multiplication grows at a rate

50:10

that is almost impossible for you to

50:12

spend back so once you

50:15

reach that level of power you

50:17

just always will have it and it will

50:19

increase upon itself it is an increasing level

50:21

of power that's fucking troubling

50:24

man it's not like this guy will

50:26

ever go away he'll never be not

50:28

unbelievably rich even if Tesla tomorrow

50:30

were to go away he would

50:32

be unbelievably wealthy literally forever

50:34

I also want to talk about not going

50:36

away in another sense you and

50:38

I are reading this article and we're

50:40

seeing Texas's response but how many people

50:43

on Twitter see his tweet that still

50:45

exists there that is still saying the

50:47

wrong thing and then they never follow

50:50

it down any rabbit hole mostly everybody

50:52

yeah most people aren't fact-checking shit we

50:54

talked about this in our book what was the name of our book

50:56

by the way Cecil great fight theory of bullshit

50:58

fight theory of bullshit where would that be

51:01

available to get it on Amazon or you

51:03

could buy the the audio version that Tom

51:05

reads on our website that's interesting we

51:08

talk about this in our book part

51:10

of the problem too is that a lot of times

51:13

information comes into our

51:15

mental ecosystem not by

51:17

intention but by chance we

51:19

see something we don't give it a second thought

51:21

we just read it we glance over it we're

51:23

not even critical about it we're not fact-checking it

51:25

it's not even important to us and then it

51:27

becomes you know I heard once that it

51:30

just becomes part of our mental background that

51:33

is troubling right that is a really

51:35

troubling thing that happens we're all susceptible

51:38

to it's extremely concerned it's extremely good

51:43

we are susceptible to it yeah we're all susceptible

51:45

to it yeah and and and the and

51:47

the fact is is that is that

51:50

Elon Musk is gonna is gonna

51:52

amplify this what

51:56

wants to instill basically a fascist America

51:58

right this group this and Wokeness

52:00

guy, he

52:03

will amplify their message

52:05

and then people won't

52:07

find the rebuttal at

52:09

all. They're not because of

52:12

10 tweets down on Twitter. And actually the

52:14

mentions now are a mess afterwards. Oh my

52:16

God. Because it's all blue check marks and

52:18

some of them aren't anything about what the

52:20

tweet was at all. So sometimes I'll see

52:23

a tweet, I'll click on it and

52:25

then I'll look underneath it and the

52:27

first five or six responses are videos

52:29

of something completely different but they're blue

52:31

check marks so they get moved up.

52:35

The algorithm is fucked now. I

52:37

don't know how anybody navigates and stays on

52:39

Twitter anymore because to be honest it's a

52:42

fucking mess. But genuinely the people

52:44

that are there, one, they want to

52:46

believe this stuff. And so

52:48

those people won't ever look and the

52:50

other people who come across it and

52:52

don't have the ability to fact check it,

52:54

they're going to believe it. The

52:56

story comes from NPR. The

53:06

Vatican says, surrogacy and

53:08

gender theory are grave threats to human

53:10

dignity. See,

53:13

so I read this, you put it in

53:15

the notes and all I could think is

53:17

who the fuck is still listening to the

53:19

Vatican, man? Who

53:21

the fuck is still listening to

53:23

a fucking pitot ring run out

53:26

of some weird little ensconced

53:28

city in Italy? Who

53:30

the fuck? And I mean that without rhetoric. I'm

53:32

not trying to be rhetorical. There's a lot of

53:35

people who are Catholics, man. There's a lot of

53:37

Catholics in the world. But fucking why at this

53:39

point? What is still going on in your head?

53:41

I will say this. They put

53:43

out a document and they do this every once in a while,

53:45

they call them encyclicals and it's

53:47

written by the pope or somebody who writes it

53:49

and then he signs his name to it. But

53:52

this one, this one might not be a technically an

53:55

encyclical, it might just be a

53:58

document that they put out. I

54:00

don't know, I didn't buy a little book. A memo, like a Vatican memo.

54:04

It could be just by the higher ups in the church, but

54:07

this one's called Infinite Dignity, and it talks

54:09

about infinite dignity, and it lists all these

54:12

different ways in which, we've got to

54:14

be careful about infinite dignity, but the

54:16

person in this article they talk to,

54:18

they say, this is very much conditional

54:20

love. Instead of saying infinite, where

54:22

it's like, there's dignity in everybody, there's dignity,

54:25

you're very specifically calling out the fact

54:28

there aren't dignity in people who change

54:30

their gender. Like you're very specifically

54:33

saying, those people aren't.

54:36

Those people, they're doing us and

54:38

them in this document. And

54:41

Pope Francis gets a pass so

54:43

often as being a reformer, as

54:45

somebody who is, he's a

54:47

progressive, he is just as stodgy and

54:51

fucking full of this bullshit as the rest

54:53

of those fucking Cardinals that they threw all

54:55

their fucking hat in and one of them

54:57

went black or whatever, and the smoke shot

55:00

up and they spun the bottle and they

55:02

picked this fucking knob. But every

55:04

single one of them is very similar, man.

55:06

They're all super conservative. We

55:09

talked about this recently, religion itself has to

55:11

be conservative, and these people, they

55:14

are conservative. Once in a

55:16

while, they'll say something like, oh,

55:18

that model's

55:20

something vaguely progressive, and they get

55:23

heaps of praise for it. Pope

55:26

Francis happens to be a little environmental. Yeah, great,

55:29

okay, he happens to be a little environmental, but

55:31

that dude is still not, he's

55:33

still gonna be against condoms in

55:35

Africa. Yeah, I know, man. So

55:38

it's a lie. It's just a facade.

55:42

Well, it's like this relative

55:44

progressivism and the other benchmark

55:46

for the measure is

55:48

one of the most conservative organizations to

55:51

have existed in all of time. Sure.

55:54

It's not a good comparison. It doesn't really

55:56

mean anything, but the other side is

55:58

so incredibly conservative. I want

56:01

to I want to read some person this because I think

56:03

it's just it's astonishing The Vatican released

56:05

a new document calling poverty war and the

56:07

plight of migrants threats to human dignity, but

56:10

it also calls abortion surrogacy

56:13

Surrogacy and and now I want

56:15

to I do want to say so that it's sad so we don't

56:17

get an email I am very much

56:19

aware that there are real

56:22

systemic issues with surrogacy and the

56:24

way that women's bodies are sometimes

56:29

Commodified by the wealthy in

56:31

surrogacy situations. That's a real problem

56:33

like like wealthy people can commodify

56:36

the bodies of poor women and

56:38

basically like Force them

56:40

financially into positions of surrogacy But

56:43

that's not what the church is talking about the church is

56:45

talking about and you get this from the rest of their

56:47

document Like they're really they've got

56:49

like an ideological problem with the idea

56:52

of where babies come from and how

56:54

life should be Made or

56:56

how life shouldn't be made or what fucking

56:58

ever be serious surrogate. Yeah, right

57:00

wouldn't miss a good plan Like

57:05

right, I mean it's no like God fucked her

57:07

right like I mean I like I just don't

57:09

even Yeah, your whole thing doesn't make

57:11

any your whole thing doesn't make any sense But

57:14

then and it goes on further It says

57:16

infinite dignity details a long list of what

57:18

it calls grave threats to dignity some of

57:20

which might be expected It talks about the

57:22

drama of poverty and how the unequal distribution

57:24

of wealth denies humans or God-given dignity Hell

57:27

of a thing to say hell of

57:29

a thing to say from the fucking Vatican

57:31

about about wealth Yeah, for hell of a

57:33

thing to say it also describes

57:35

war the abuse of migrants sexual

57:37

abuse violence against women the marginalizing

57:40

of people disabilities Assisted

57:42

suicide, which I fully support

57:44

and abortion. Yeah, I don't know they

57:46

don't they think suicide is it's it's

57:49

the sin that you can't get Into heaven

57:51

right? I and that's that's just like

57:54

that's such a cruelty. It is

57:56

such a fucking cruelty The

57:58

documents framework and I think this is really worth

58:00

talking about. The documents framework holds that if

58:02

a person is made in God's image, then

58:05

gender theory and gender reassignment surgery call into

58:07

question why God would create a person with

58:09

the wrong gender. By that

58:11

same logic, we shouldn't fix a

58:13

club foot. By

58:15

that same logic, why sew up a

58:17

cleft palate? By that same logic, why

58:19

repair a valve in a heart

58:21

of a baby? It's because trans

58:23

people are, they are the one

58:26

that I think a lot of people

58:28

want to attack because it's sort of the attack

58:30

du jour today. It's the thing that people,

58:34

they see somebody that's vulnerable in

58:36

a population and then they go

58:38

after them. And also, there's

58:40

probably not a ton of trans people, I

58:42

can't imagine a ton of trans people who

58:44

care what this person thinks. What you're doing

58:47

is you're attacking an outgroup that's not even part of

58:49

your group. Well, I think importantly what

58:51

they're doing with all these issues that

58:53

they raise is they are

58:55

mobilizing their base to judge other

58:57

people. Yeah, exactly. Because like

58:59

you said, if I am a non-Catholic

59:02

woman getting an abortion, do

59:04

I give a shit what the

59:06

Pope says? No. But might

59:09

my Aunt Kathy now treat me like shit

59:11

because of it? Might some asshole come with

59:13

a fucking megaphone and scream at me when

59:15

I go in? You know, might some lawmaker

59:17

take my right away from me? Of course.

59:20

So it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter

59:22

if I am directly

59:24

the one in the path of this

59:26

message. The point is like this message

59:28

goes out to all these fucking chuckle

59:31

fucks who happen to be powerful. There's

59:33

the disproportionate amount of Catholics in

59:35

our government right now in positions of power.

59:38

I say disproportionate because there's not as many

59:40

Catholics by percentage, but there's a huge number

59:42

of Catholics in positions

59:45

of power in Congress, etc. It's

59:47

still a very powerful group of people. It's

59:50

a very, very powerful group of people. So

59:52

these messages make a real big fucking difference.

59:55

And the framework that they base it on is

59:57

nonsense. Yeah. Like the framework, they're saying,

59:59

well, yeah. I mean like, God don't make no mistakes,

1:00:01

so why would we change it? Like, I

1:00:04

don't know man, when you break your arm, just let it

1:00:06

lay there then. Yeah. You know? Like,

1:00:08

if you have a fucking baby with a fucking

1:00:10

hole in its heart, just let it die. See,

1:00:12

there's just a stupid way to think, it's an

1:00:15

old backward trash way to think. Stop taking your

1:00:17

fucking blood pressure medication away.

1:00:19

Or old cardinal, you know? And like

1:00:22

you said, like these are a group of people who are

1:00:24

making decisions, who are a bunch of

1:00:26

fucking celibate dudes living lives that are

1:00:29

just completely cloistered away from reality. They

1:00:31

don't deal with reality. They don't. They

1:00:34

don't deal with gendered reality. They don't

1:00:36

deal with sexuality in any meaningful way.

1:00:38

They don't deal with romantic relationships at

1:00:40

all. These are people living, they don't

1:00:42

even deal with the workforce in the

1:00:44

proper way. These are people living completely

1:00:46

cloistered lives, being like, well you know

1:00:48

what I think? Well actually, the fuck

1:00:51

outta here? It's exactly what you say too. And

1:00:53

in my previous job, I worked

1:00:55

and had to once in a while, in

1:00:58

my orbit would be priests would come into my orbit.

1:01:00

These are Catholic priests would come into my orbit. And

1:01:03

they would come to my orbit because there was, things

1:01:05

that I was putting on the internet, historical

1:01:08

things that I was putting on the internet that I had

1:01:10

to work with them, right? To do this sort of work.

1:01:13

And they are

1:01:15

essentially children. These

1:01:17

are grownups that are like

1:01:19

essentially children. They don't do

1:01:21

anything for themselves. They come

1:01:23

home every day from their

1:01:25

study, whatever they're doing, maybe

1:01:28

they're teaching a class at a college, and then

1:01:30

they come back to their place

1:01:32

of where they live in community with the

1:01:34

rest of the dudes. And there's a whole

1:01:37

crew of people that cooks their food. Every

1:01:39

day they get cooked food, all their food

1:01:41

gets done. They don't cook it for themselves.

1:01:44

They hire people to cook for them. Then

1:01:46

they have cleaners who come in and clean

1:01:48

their stuff. They don't make their own appointments.

1:01:50

They have people who literally do all this

1:01:52

work for them, and they do one or

1:01:54

two things a week. That's what they do.

1:01:57

They essentially have servants to do all the things

1:01:59

they need to do. do everything that needs to

1:02:01

be done is done for them

1:02:03

they don't live a life like you

1:02:05

or me they don't live like us

1:02:08

they don't they don't have to worry

1:02:10

about things they have someone who handles

1:02:12

things for them so they're very much

1:02:14

like aristocracy they're a weird throwback to

1:02:16

a time that you know a lot

1:02:19

of a lot of people don't ever

1:02:21

have an opportunity to even live like

1:02:23

this oh no weird weird strange yeah

1:02:25

way they live and you're absolutely right

1:02:27

they don't they they have no connection

1:02:29

and it's it's so similar when you think

1:02:31

about you know the rich people who run

1:02:34

our country they have no connection listen to what Trump was

1:02:36

saying he was talking about how you had to fucking use

1:02:38

your idea to buy groceries I

1:02:41

know he doesn't know Trump has

1:02:43

never stopped driven himself somewhere to

1:02:45

stop to get gas for himself

1:02:47

and then go in and get

1:02:49

a bag of peanut M&Ms and

1:02:51

then pay for it with real

1:02:53

money that's never happened it is

1:02:55

an entire life right the normal

1:02:57

thing that 99.9 percent

1:03:00

of the United States has to deal with that

1:03:02

man's never done right and there's a lot of

1:03:04

people in high office that they just don't that's

1:03:06

not a thing they ever have to think about

1:03:08

they don't have to do that stuff and that's

1:03:10

just one tiny moment of your life you know

1:03:12

think about all the times you have to make

1:03:14

doctors appointments for you right these people in

1:03:17

with pampered lives and then they make the

1:03:19

rules for the rest of us yeah and they don't

1:03:21

know how the world works now they don't know how

1:03:23

people interact they why are we

1:03:25

listening to them about like hey here's some

1:03:27

stuff about gender it's like motherfucking living in

1:03:29

dormitory with a bunch of dudes yeah you

1:03:31

have no relay like what are you talking

1:03:33

about what are you talking about why you

1:03:35

are not in the world the only reason

1:03:37

you care is so you can weaponize your

1:03:39

group against those people yeah Peter first was

1:03:41

in fear when Jesus told the launch out

1:03:47

it's amazing when the Lord speaks to me

1:03:50

call me right now 6 2 0 62 hallelujah

1:03:57

hallelujah let's go to the vials and all the

1:03:59

prayer requests What's this? What can we have?

1:04:01

I will see the glory of God. Hallelujah.

1:04:06

I feel like we gotta close the show today,

1:04:08

Tom, with just playing this video. I

1:04:11

listened to this video, Cecil. This is from the

1:04:13

Huffington Post. Arizona

1:04:15

State Center leads prayer

1:04:17

in tongues on the

1:04:19

floor before abortion ruling. Let's just,

1:04:21

I just gotta play it. So this

1:04:23

is it. Let it be so long,

1:04:25

man. Let it just go. Let it

1:04:27

be so soon. I know. Honestly,

1:04:50

like, no bullshit. This

1:04:52

is upsetting to watch. It is

1:04:55

so crazy. It's crazy. It

1:04:58

sounds like that fucking, ecky, ecky, ecky,

1:05:00

boobang! Like it's fucking crazy, man. I'm

1:05:03

going to be the man I need to be. You

1:05:06

are so fucking just

1:05:08

unhinged to walk in

1:05:10

and put your hands on the ground and fucking

1:05:12

spew nonsense into the air.

1:05:15

If you guys get a chance to go to our site, if

1:05:19

you're watching this, if you're not watching this, if

1:05:21

you're just listening, this is a

1:05:23

group of powerful people. Right?

1:05:26

This is a state senator in

1:05:28

Arizona. They're about to rule on, like,

1:05:31

the abortion ruling. For like 160-year-old law that we just

1:05:33

talked about at the beginning of the show. They're

1:05:36

on the fucking ground. They're on the

1:05:38

ground bowing and moving

1:05:41

and rhythm and fucking making

1:05:43

ukka-aka sounds. This is

1:05:45

not a— like, this should be disqualified. She'd be

1:05:47

like, oh, I'm sorry, you're fucking nuts. Here's

1:05:49

what I don't get. Every once

1:05:51

in a while, a humanist will say, I'd like to

1:05:54

give the opening, and then they fucking

1:05:56

shit our fucking pants when a

1:05:58

humanist or a Satan— And

1:06:00

if you've ever heard the Satanist stuff,

1:06:02

it's literally just humanism that they're repackaging

1:06:04

that they want to say as the

1:06:06

opening prayer They will fucking shit their

1:06:09

pants at how fucking terrified they are

1:06:11

of that getting on the floor. Mm-hmm

1:06:13

And this it's serious

1:06:15

You could make more sense if

1:06:17

you walked into a daycare with

1:06:19

pre verbal kids and you would be

1:06:21

able to learn more About the world

1:06:23

than what is happening right now These

1:06:26

should not be people that are allowed to

1:06:28

make decisions and I don't mean decisions about

1:06:30

like governance I mean decisions

1:06:32

of any kind. This is like yeah,

1:06:34

this is the beginning of 2001 a space Odyssey This

1:06:38

is the chimps. Yeah banging sticks

1:06:40

against an obelisk. Yeah, it's You

1:06:43

watch it. You feel like it's a joke

1:06:46

Yeah, this this seems like like the opening

1:06:48

sequence to like the next episode of Handmaid's

1:06:50

Tale Terrifying like this is

1:06:52

this is filmed live from Gilead.

1:06:54

It's terrifying because these are people

1:06:56

who You

1:06:58

don't want to trust them because

1:07:01

they have put their trust in

1:07:03

an imaginary thing So they've

1:07:05

put their trust in this imaginary thing to guide

1:07:08

them But that thing's not real and they're playing

1:07:10

acting a weird and they're being doing play

1:07:12

acting and they're doing all this But but

1:07:14

the real problem is is that they're not

1:07:16

taking responsibility for their own actions. Yes They're

1:07:19

putting it on some imaginary thing

1:07:21

and making decisions I

1:07:23

want somebody who's gonna fully own their

1:07:25

actions and fully be involved in those

1:07:27

actions I don't want somebody who's just

1:07:30

gonna make something up and then

1:07:32

fucking sing a weird song to them

1:07:34

Yeah, man, the thing is hitting on

1:07:36

the floor of the fucking Senate like

1:07:39

that is yeah, that's unsettling It's

1:07:41

super unsettling because they're gonna do exactly

1:07:43

what they want. Yeah, right there do

1:07:45

it like yeah There is no God

1:07:48

right. There's no actual God. So in

1:07:50

every circumstance with literally no exceptions

1:07:53

These are just people doing the

1:07:55

thing that they wanted to do

1:07:57

and all the rest of this nonsense is

1:08:00

window dressing to what

1:08:02

they always wanted to do. They didn't pray

1:08:04

and get an enlightenment. They didn't pray and

1:08:07

have a conversation. That never happened. It

1:08:09

never, it cannot happen. It's literally impossible.

1:08:11

What they did was exactly the thing

1:08:13

they wanted to do, and

1:08:15

then they used this story in their head as

1:08:18

their justification for the thing that they

1:08:20

just wanted to do. And it's the one thing that can

1:08:23

get them past everybody and keeps

1:08:25

them blameless in some ways. Terrifying.

1:08:28

All right, that's gonna wrap

1:08:30

it up for this week.

1:08:35

We'll be nothing on Thursday. This

1:08:37

upcoming Thursday, there's nothing. We

1:08:40

would normally do a live stream, but we're afraid

1:08:42

to go on YouTube right now because of the

1:08:44

strikes that they've given us. So we're

1:08:46

waiting until those strikes, they

1:08:49

basically, they eventually expire.

1:08:52

So we're waiting for that strike to expire. Once it

1:08:54

does, then we'll probably try to come back on YouTube,

1:08:56

but not this month, not April. Maybe May, fingers crossed.

1:08:59

We'll see how long it takes for them to reinstate

1:09:01

us. But we're gonna stay

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All right, that's gonna wrap it up for this week. We're gonna leave it

1:09:23

like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed. Creedulity

1:09:26

is not a virtue. It's

1:09:29

fortune-cookie-cutter, mommy issue,

1:09:31

HypnoBabylon bullshit. Couched

1:09:34

in scientician, double bubble,

1:09:36

toil and trouble, pseudo

1:09:39

quasi-alternative, accu-punctuating, pressurized stereogram,

1:09:41

pyramidal, free-energy healing, watered

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1:09:46

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mosques, and synagogues, temples,

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1:10:07

wizards, vaccine nuts, shaman

1:10:10

healers, evangelists, conspiracy,

1:10:13

double-speak stigmata, nonsense.

1:10:17

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