0:00

I am so stoked for you to listen to

0:00

this episode and to this guest today,

0:03

I feel like she just dropped so

0:03

many golden nuggets, even for myself

0:06

that I was definitely taking notes. Even during this episode.

0:09

And I am just so thrilled that she

0:09

was introduced to me in this world.

0:12

She was introduced by Brooke Swan

0:12

to me, and I'm so forever grateful

0:15

for her for bringing her into my

0:15

world because she's got some great

0:19

things to be sharing with you guys. Her name is Renee Dick, and she is.

0:22

Oh, I just love her. I love her energy. I think you're going to

0:24

really vibe with her. If you love my energy and you love me as

0:25

an individual, then you are most likely

0:30

also going to be a loving grenade as well. And so in today's episode, we're gonna be

0:31

talking about how to align your business

0:35

with the energetic strategy and not just

0:35

looking at the more strategic standpoint,

0:39

but really how to look inwards, to

0:39

align yourself with your business.

0:43

We're also going to be talking about

0:43

leaning into those feelings in that gut

0:46

gut reaction and all those different

0:46

things that we have and why you should

0:49

be really trusting that intuition. She's going to dive into a concept called.

0:52

Called human design. And also talking more into depth

0:53

about what that is and how you can

0:57

utilize it in your business and even

0:57

intertwining it with your team as well.

1:02

And so in today's episode, I feel

1:02

like we covered so many things.

1:04

I couldn't even like bullet

1:04

point here in this introduction.

1:07

I think you're going to absolutely

1:07

love today's episode and today's

1:11

guest, and I bet you a million dollars.

1:14

You're also going to be writing

1:14

down everything and giving her a

1:17

follow at the end of this episode. So without further ado, I hope

1:19

you enjoy today's episode.

2:17

Hey, everyone, and welcome back to yet another episode of the Conquering Workflows and Systems for

2:19

Bookkeepers and Accountants podcast

2:22

with your host here, Alyssa Lang. I'm so excited because today I get to

2:24

interview someone who is also a fellow

2:28

podcast hoster, which I'm sure she's

2:28

going to talk all about the things

2:31

that she talks about on her podcast. I know we're going to get a

2:33

little taste of that here on. And our own podcast

2:34

today, but I'm so excited.

2:37

Renee Dick is someone who was introduced

2:37

to me by Brooke Swan is all of, you

2:41

know, if you don't already know that

2:41

Brooke is one of my dearest, nearest,

2:45

best friends, and also a coach

2:45

inside of our breakthrough program.

2:48

And she's been really dipping in

2:48

the energetics when it comes to.

2:52

How you feel and operate

2:52

inside of your business and

2:55

how to align it with yourself. And so she just could not help but tell

2:56

me about this incredible human being that

3:00

she met and was like, she'd be perfect for

3:00

the podcast, perfect for our community.

3:05

And so I am unbelievably excited

3:05

for you to be here today.

3:08

So Renee, please feel free to introduce yourself. Well, that

3:11

was like the best intro ever. And yes, I love Brooke.

3:14

As soon as I saw her, I was like,

3:14

hey girl, hey, you're for me.

3:17

And then turns out she's the

3:17

same design as all of us.

3:20

So I feel like real recognizes real.

3:22

And it was like, you got something I want. And I was like, you got something I want.

3:26

And then we just became friends from that. I'm so excited.

3:29

So I'm Renee. I call myself the personal

3:30

empowerment guide.

3:32

I'm pretty much like your hype

3:32

girl in business and in life.

3:35

I help you break through limiting

3:35

beliefs, figure out what's keeping

3:38

you stuck, and then also pair easy,

3:38

super easy, not super woo woo.

3:43

Energetic tools like human design, gene

3:43

keys to break you out of your own stuck

3:47

box and tap you into an easier way.

3:50

I mean, business is hard enough. So any tool or cheat code I can use

3:51

to get an upper hand I'm going to do.

3:56

And that's what I share

3:56

with all of my clients.

3:59

Oh, I love it. And I know that right before we

4:00

hit record here, we were like, what

4:02

are we going to talk about today? And one of the big things that

4:03

you kind of wanted to talk about was energetic strategy.

4:06

Cause you, I'm sure we're going to dive

4:06

into all the pieces and what that means

4:09

for you and what that looks like for

4:09

all of us and all of the listeners here.

4:12

But I'm only assuming that

4:12

everybody is approaching things

4:15

from a strategy of like, I want

4:15

to know the system, the process.

4:18

And you even brought that up. Like the exact, like Alyssa, tell me

4:19

the how to, I want the everything.

4:23

I want the checklist. I want all the things where sometimes

4:24

the most important, which I do believe

4:28

and Brooke, I'm pretty sure is listening

4:28

to this episode as well, is really

4:31

huge on it too, is that the more I've

4:31

learned to lean into my energetic

4:34

side in the business, I swear my

4:34

business has quantum leaped on its own.

4:39

So I'm really excited to be

4:39

talking about this topic today.

4:41

So I'm going to let you kind of

4:41

take over and just say, what is

4:43

energetic strategy versus like the

4:43

more strategic approach to business?

4:46

I'm in the category of I don't

4:46

buy that we're just here.

4:49

We're supposed to be here, we're supposed to go to school, we're supposed to make some money, then we're

4:51

supposed to retire, then that's it.

4:53

Like, I truly believe we all have

4:53

a bigger purpose at play here, and

4:57

I do believe we chose to come here. So bypassing all of that, everybody

4:59

can relate to, we've done the strategy,

5:04

and then No matter what, you do it,

5:04

and then something holds you back.

5:09

And I've been here so many times where I

5:09

would have the best marketing strategy,

5:13

I would have the best business coach,

5:13

I would have social media, everything.

5:17

And for some reason, I would get

5:17

success, and then as soon as I

5:20

got a little bit where it made me

5:20

uncomfortable, I would go right back

5:23

to square one, sometimes even worse.

5:25

And so, It's kind of like if you keep

5:25

putting all of this external stuff

5:30

but you're not getting the results

5:30

you want or you keep repeating the

5:33

same pattern, there's something

5:33

deeper under the surface that we're

5:36

not telling the truth about, right? So that's where I found human design

5:37

because I kept doing all the things.

5:41

I'm like, I am spending all this money on

5:41

all this external **** and it's working,

5:45

but then why do I keep going backwards?

5:47

Like, what's wrong with me? So that's how I found Human Design and

5:48

the Gene Keys, and what you said, like,

5:52

once you tapped into your spiritual

5:52

side or what really makes you unique,

5:56

you tell everybody else to **** off,

5:56

and business gets to feel good.

6:00

All of a sudden I'm like, so all the

6:00

things I kept telling myself I was

6:03

wrong about, or all the things I didn't

6:03

want to share about because I was too

6:06

uncomfortable, or I thought people would

6:06

think I was a weirdo, or the fact that I

6:09

You need rest and can't keep up with all

6:09

the other people, and you start to double

6:13

down on that and stop fighting yourself.

6:16

Like, how many times were you

6:16

fighting yourself in business?

6:18

I think that's the best word to describe it. I think more often than not, especially

6:20

at the beginning stages, and the more that

6:25

I've leaned into, This version of myself

6:25

who is exactly, we've talked before,

6:30

before we even hit record, not even

6:30

today, like on our previous call, when we

6:33

were connecting about how, like, I used

6:33

to feel so guilty about certain things.

6:37

I used to feel guilty about never being

6:37

able to work a full eight hour day.

6:40

Like I can't do that. I don't know how people do it.

6:42

I don't know how I can like

6:42

uphold my team to do it.

6:44

Like it blows my mind. And I used to feel guilty.

6:47

And now I realize that

6:47

I'm really just no good.

6:50

After two o'clock. I'm no good after two hours of work.

6:53

Like that's why I can only work so much. So like you said, the whole doubt and just

6:54

like looking in and like not knowing, and

6:59

then you just kind of be uncomfortable

6:59

and you're like being this different

7:02

version of yourself and not who you want. I just love all this.

7:06

Well, social media took off when

7:06

everybody was like, remember when

7:09

everybody had the same five strategies

7:09

and they're like, well, I got, you

7:12

know, this success and this success. And you're so then you try it and you're

7:14

like, well, that didn't ****ing work.

7:17

And then you feel like you suck, right? You're like, well, it works for so and so.

7:21

Why did it not work for me? And when you realize you're an individual

7:22

person with individual ways of operating

7:27

and like a projector with using you as an

7:27

example, you and Brooke, all of us, like

7:31

we aren't meant to work an eight hour day.

7:33

We can get it. Twice as much done in three

7:34

hours when we're let up by it.

7:37

So, when you force yourself to do things

7:37

and you get into that should mentality.

7:42

You're gearing up for so much

7:42

resistance on the energetic side,

7:46

and we all know what that feels like. It's kind of like, you know when

7:47

you wake up late, and you're super

7:49

pissed, and you're rushing around,

7:49

and your door, your, you know, your

7:51

jacket gets stuck on the door, and

7:51

then the whole ****ing day is screwed?

7:54

That's energetic stuff, and we

7:54

all know what that feels like.

7:57

Or, you make a decision, and then all

7:57

of a sudden you just do not feel good.

8:00

Or, you didn't listen to your gut

8:00

about a client, or a decision, or

8:04

something, and you just know, you're

8:04

like, dang, I wish I would've listened.

8:07

We all have had that, right? So I just double down on actually trusting

8:09

it and building that muscle and getting

8:14

your power back and your authority back. Cause then you can spend money

8:15

on **** and you're confident.

8:18

It's not like a save me a

8:18

life raft kind of investment.

8:21

It's a, this is fun. I'm going to tap into your genius.

8:24

You're going to help me out. And everything feels better versus

8:27

Yeah. And I definitely think that if

8:28

more people, especially in our

8:31

industry, because we're so I

8:31

don't know what the right word

8:33

is, but they are so data driven. It's always like facts.

8:36

It's a matter of fact for everything. Exactly what we do in

8:37

like the accounting space. So a lot of the listeners feel this,

8:39

like, it has to be a certain way.

8:42

We have to do it like this. The strategy is like this because of this.

8:46

I see this a lot. Like you were bringing up the

8:46

whole social media and the five

8:49

tactics that everybody does. And why am I, Kelly.

8:51

So bad at it or something or

8:51

making themselves feel guilty.

8:54

It's the same way for this industry. Everybody's all doing the

8:55

same thing all the time.

8:58

Instead of leaning in innately

8:58

to what feels good for you

9:01

that you don't have to do. The standard.

9:03

Also, this is like a standard

9:03

dominated male industry.

9:06

That's like, so we're outgrowing

9:06

the old way of doing things like the

9:11

physical brick and mortar firms like. That is just like not the

9:12

new way of doing things. And it's like, I like that you

9:14

brought up that leaning into

9:17

just exactly how you feel. Cause I think people don't do

9:18

that enough in this industry.

9:21

And I really wish that people just

9:21

allow themselves to be creative and

9:24

be just what feels good for them. Every single industry struggles with this.

9:29

That's what led me into what I was doing. I worked with, so before I

9:31

did this, I was doing content.

9:35

So I did content repurposing,

9:35

total projector life, like

9:37

trying to get the most out of my. Time, right came a master

9:39

at content repurposing.

9:42

And so I would have all of these

9:42

business owners would hire me.

9:44

I had like recruiting firms,

9:44

naturopathic doctors, accountants,

9:47

bookkeepers literally every industry

9:47

you can think of would hire me

9:52

and I would be in their content. And I'm like, hold up.

9:55

So you show up to these calls, top knot

9:55

bun with a Starbees, like chill as hell.

10:00

But your content is like, well,

10:00

hello, How can I help you?

10:03

And I'm like, nobody's buying this. I would not buy from this person.

10:07

I want to buy from you. And now more than ever, people are

10:08

buying from people they like, right?

10:12

Just like how I met Brooke. It was like, you're for me, I'm for you.

10:15

I just feel like you're my person. I don't care about your credentials.

10:18

I just know. Like, you feel good to me, right?

10:20

And so when you stop hiding that, and

10:20

you realize that the reason why people

10:26

are buying from you isn't because you

10:26

sound a certain professional way, you

10:30

have the lab coat on or whatever, it's

10:30

because you bring your sauce to it.

10:34

Because we all know, like, every

10:34

industry is so crowded that

10:39

everybody's pretty much good. We can say that, right?

10:42

So if everybody in your industry

10:42

is good because everybody has

10:45

access to so much information now,

10:45

how do you set yourself apart?

10:48

By being you, just being

11:57

unique. And I'm so big on that. Like every time I ever do like episodes

11:59

talking about like marketing or any

12:02

of those sorts of tactics, I tell

12:02

people all the time, but it's hard.

12:05

I find that it's really hard

12:05

for this industry specifically

12:08

because they are more introverted.

12:10

They are behind the scenes and they

12:10

are not really involved in like

12:14

that creative aspect and also really

12:14

struggle with the creative piece.

12:17

But. It sounds like, to me, it, like,

12:18

doesn't mean that you need to

12:20

know how to post social media and

12:20

do all these different things.

12:23

It's all about just

12:23

showing up authentically.

12:25

And maybe it doesn't have to be in social media. It's just showing up to your onboarding

12:27

calls or your discovery calls.

12:30

Like, being your true, authentic self. If I feel like wearing a hat today in

12:32

my flannel, it's like, if you're not

12:34

gonna like that, then I'm not for you.

12:36

If you expect someone in a suit

12:36

and tie that's gonna use big

12:38

words, then the door's right there.

12:42

Well, and two, it's like, if you don't

12:42

want to do those things, They aren't

12:47

going to convert anyways, and I'm a big

12:47

believer in if you are terrible at social

12:52

media, which a lot of people are, and it

12:52

looks like somebody's putting a gun to

12:55

your head, and I'm over here like, hey,

12:55

you're gonna have to do 30 reels to get

12:59

your business seen, and you're over there

12:59

like, looking Don't Absolutely horrible.

13:03

Like you got to poop every single time. It's not going to convert.

13:06

So you're just wasting your time. I'm like, okay, where do you excel at?

13:09

Let's look into your gene keys. Let's look into your profile lines.

13:12

Look, look into your energetic strategy

13:12

and I'll go put you in a room somewhere.

13:15

So I have a four line perfect

13:15

example on how this came about.

13:19

So I have a four line, my profile. Online in human design, and you

13:20

can find this in your chart.

13:23

If you just get a free chart, you

13:23

can go to like Jovi and archive.

13:25

I mean just Google it. It's so widespread now.

13:27

And you get your profile lines and

13:27

there's gonna be two numbers, and this

13:30

is gonna tell you exactly how you best

13:30

create opportunities for yourself.

13:35

So I'm a four six, I have a four.

13:37

Line. That means my network and my

13:37

friends are everything to me.

13:41

That's where a lot of my business comes from. So I don't do reels because I don't

13:43

do business with strangers, right?

13:46

The work I do is very deep. So of course I go to a meetup

13:48

from one of my friends.

13:51

I sit next to Brooke and I'm

13:51

like, Hey, you're for me.

13:54

I'm for you. We spark up a conversation.

13:56

She's like, Hey, do you want to meet for coffee? I'm like, yes, of course.

13:59

We start talking about something. She's like, Oh, you have

14:00

to meet my friend, Alyssa.

14:03

I'm like, yes, of course I do. And guess what?

14:06

Now I'm on your podcast. Did I initiate you?

14:08

No. Did I go and push the reel that you saw?

14:10

No. I leaned into my network.

14:12

So when you understand how you're

14:12

meant to operate, Now I don't have

14:16

to feel guilty about not creating

14:16

reels because I suck at them.

14:19

Yeah, 100%. Love that. I love that you just innately will

14:21

understand, one, your human design, which

14:26

I'd love to talk about because people

14:26

on the high guard can tell you from this

14:29

industry do not know what human design is. And if they do, it's very, very rare.

14:32

So I want to get into that here in

14:32

just a second, but I love that you

14:35

kind of touched on like leaning into

14:35

Whatever's naturally going to come to

14:38

you based off just like what you do. You're just being a genuine human

14:40

being, genuinely talking with people.

14:43

They're genuinely going to refer you. And like you said, for anyone listening,

14:45

you might not know yet what a projector

14:49

is, but we'll talk about some of the

14:49

things in just a second, but me, you, and

14:53

also Brooke are all projectors and we're

14:53

all, but also very different in the same

14:57

way, but the way that we all operate. Are very, very similar.

15:01

It's funny because we originally

15:01

had a different episode day

15:03

scheduled to do the interview. And I was like, look, girl, I

15:05

don't know why my calendar let you

15:09

schedule at like four o'clock, but

15:09

that is not my brain goes fried.

15:12

I knew this, that you were going

15:12

to respect that because we had that

15:14

conversation before about how we both as

15:14

projectors cannot operate in long days.

15:19

And you were just like, and the fact that

15:19

you respected that because you know that

15:23

about me and I respected that about you.

15:25

Is another example of understanding

15:25

your own energetics and

15:29

what you have to lean into. If I forced myself to get on that

15:29

podcast at four o'clock, it would have

15:33

just, I would not have been able to

15:33

ask you questions that made sense.

15:35

It wouldn't have produced

15:35

quality, but I used to resist it.

15:38

And I used to think that I needed

15:38

to work till five o'clock and oh my

15:41

God, I'm such a terrible human being

15:41

if I don't work till five and like,

15:45

who am I to stop working at two? You know?

15:48

Well, think about if you have a team. When you are expecting them to work a

15:50

certain way or you're expecting yourself

15:55

to work a certain way, then when you

15:55

understand or can see how somebody's

15:59

meant to operate, you can double down

15:59

on their strengths versus having to,

16:03

you know, constantly, I'm not going to

16:03

say be angry at them, but resent them

16:06

for, you know, not keeping up with

16:06

you or not working the way you do.

16:10

And we tend to think

16:10

that we know best, right?

16:12

Like I think I'm the ****. You

16:12

probably think you're the ****. So

16:14

when a team member doesn't have

16:14

the same willpower and drive as I

16:16

do, I'm like, well, what the hell? Like, why do you not

16:18

have the passion I do? So when I originally started my

16:19

podcast, my co host, we didn't know

16:23

about each other's human design. She's a manifesting generator

16:24

who's the freaking energizer bunny

16:28

of the world that never stops.

16:30

And she would get so angry

16:30

with me because I just didn't

16:33

think the way that she thought. She's like, well, why

16:34

didn't you think to do that? I'm like, because it's not what I do.

16:37

Like, I don't know. You just did it. You're a control freak.

16:39

You, you know what I mean? So we fought so many times over that

16:40

when, if I would have just known now.

16:46

And what I didn't know, our relationship

16:46

probably would have ended a lot cleaner.

16:49

Yeah. I love that. It's funny because during our onboarding

16:51

process, and I know I've talked about

16:54

it for those who are passionately

16:54

listening to the podcast episode every

16:58

single time I have overly shared about

16:58

the fact that during our onboarding with

17:02

our team members, we have them fill out

17:02

this specific document and it's this

17:05

document that's like, how do you operate? Essentially like we imagine our team

17:07

members as like little Instapods.

17:10

What button do I not press to blow you up? Oh my

17:13

gosh, this is genius. Yes, so freaking cool.

17:16

And so we call them user

17:16

manuals like on our team.

17:18

And so essentially when you get hired, it's like one of the first things that you do.

17:21

So you fill yours out and then you go read others. They also get access to mine before

17:23

they see everyone else's so they

17:26

can see the inspiration of what I

17:26

mean by that and also gives them.

17:30

Almost like the permission to be

17:30

open and vulnerable because the

17:33

stocking is only going to help them. And then we end up having them like

17:34

revisit it in like six months because

17:38

we know that like in the beginning

17:38

you're like, yeah, you don't want

17:41

to show like your true self because

17:41

you're scared that like, why would

17:43

I tell people that I don't work well

17:43

after two o'clock when I'm a full time

17:46

team member, like stuff like that. So the reason I bring this up

17:48

though, is that we have From that one

17:51

document learned a lot about our team. So it wasn't like a result.

17:55

It wasn't like a human design where it's like, this is your numbers and all these things.

17:58

However, we did do strengths finders. So when they first get hired, they go

18:00

through the Clifton strengths finders and

18:02

we can understand like how they operate. We've shifted roles from the

18:04

different assessments that we've

18:08

had our team members do, because we

18:08

realized different things about them.

18:11

But sometimes someone just wants

18:11

the job that they're willing to

18:13

just be an assistant, but they

18:13

don't even freaking like it.

18:15

They don't even want to do it. And. It's so interesting to me when we

18:17

do these user manuals, I learned

18:20

so much about my team, about their

18:20

energy, their thought process.

18:24

Some team members are like, I need

18:24

constant, like what is it called?

18:28

Cheering me on like that. I'm doing okay. When me, I don't need that.

18:31

I don't want someone overdoing it. It's sounds fake to me, but I know it's

18:32

genuine from someone else, but in my ears.

18:37

And so it's so freaking cool that

18:37

you're bringing this up because

18:40

this is huge and even breakthrough. we teach them, listen to your

18:41

team, understand the personality.

18:45

I love this. Well, think about it, like, I'm a

18:46

big believer in like, school doesn't

18:49

encourage you to be unique, okay? This is, this is where

18:51

I go way back, right? This is what pisses me off in the world.

18:55

Is like, you go to school and they pretty

18:55

much breed your specialness out of you.

19:00

And I know that sounds really

19:00

fluffy, but it's true, right?

19:02

You have, they don't encourage you

19:02

to, You know, do the problem the

19:05

way that you feel is efficient. You have to show your work in the way

19:07

that makes sense to them, or you have

19:09

to ask permission to do so many things. So then now when you're older and

19:11

you're trying to go out on your

19:14

business and you're trying to, you

19:14

know, trust yourself, understand what

19:18

makes you unique, what separates you,

19:18

it's so hard and you don't trust it.

19:23

So for somebody that ends up

19:23

in a role that they don't even

19:26

like, but they feel like, okay,

19:26

but this is what I should want.

19:29

Like somebody may be, okay, well,

19:29

I want to be in human resources

19:32

because that's the easiest for me, especially as a projector. I'm really good at people, but no, you're

19:34

supposed to want to be, you know, the

19:37

CEO or the CFO or whatever, because

19:37

that makes more money or whatever it is.

19:41

And you realize you're not going

19:41

to be driven by the same things.

19:44

Like for me, I'd rather, I

19:44

always talk about this when I

19:47

do team team events is like. I want a trophy.

19:50

Like, if you're gonna, like, give me

19:50

recognition, don't give me a gift card,

19:54

or like, you know, a little thing. I want a trophy, and you put me on stage

19:56

in front of the whole freaking group and

19:59

be like, Renee's the **** this month. I'll be like, oh my god.

20:01

And I'll work so hard for you, right? But if you give me a gift card.

20:04

I'm going to be bitter because I'm going to be like, well, this didn't mean anything.

20:07

So you find out that all of these

20:07

things that make you unique and then

20:11

you encourage your team to do that. Now everybody's rowing in the same

20:12

direction in a way that feels good.

20:16

And don't you think they're going to work harder, provide a better service, provide a better outcome

20:18

because you're respecting their

20:21

boundaries and then they get more done. Yeah, I love this.

20:25

And so me, the part of where I love

20:25

talking about team wants to just go a

20:29

whole direction right now because I feel

20:29

like this topic and this is where like

20:33

I'm a huge believer in assessments and

20:33

whether that's the human design, whether

20:36

that's strength finders, whether that's

20:36

at the Colby, like we've had a lot of

20:39

people on the podcast talking about them. And I think a lot of people think

20:41

they're just like this assessment.

20:43

You just get a result, which they can be. Because what happens is even for my

20:45

human design for quite some time,

20:49

when I learned about it from one of my

20:49

coaches, she was like, Hey, like, you

20:52

know, take this thing and you put your

20:52

birthday and where you're born and the

20:55

exact location, spit out this thing.

20:58

I can get the report all day,

20:58

but I don't understand it.

21:00

And so like people take these

21:00

assessments, hoping that's just going to

21:02

magically change their team, magically

21:02

change the way that they operate.

21:06

But the reality is you have to

21:06

understand what the results are

21:08

telling you and how you can actually. implement it, whether it's on

21:11

your team or within yourself.

21:13

So I'd love to take a step back and

21:13

say, what the hell is human design

21:17

for the people who don't know? So I'm not even an astrology person by any

21:19

means, like I have never been into any of

21:24

that, but I'm also like, I want to win.

21:27

So anytime I would do strength finders

21:27

or enneagrams or anything like that,

21:31

all of my questions were biased. I'm going to admit it.

21:33

Like, oh, are you, do you react

21:33

or do you care what people think?

21:36

I'm like, no, of course not. Like, are you, you know, whatever.

21:39

And I would want to just

21:39

get the best answer.

21:41

So I never really, you know, under,

21:41

like, I didn't care too much about it.

21:45

So when I got human design,

21:45

I didn't do anything.

21:48

I just put in like my time

21:48

and all of that stuff.

21:51

So what it is is like

21:51

the I Ching astrology.

21:54

It goes into quantum physics. It goes into your DNA.

21:56

It goes into the chakras, energy centers,

21:56

all of the things that are, you know,

22:00

deemed woo woo or fluffy and it's science.

22:04

I mean, it's crazy **** when you see it.

22:06

And so when you get this printout and

22:06

it tells you your chart, you can go in

22:10

now it's so widespread, you can Google

22:10

it anywhere and really read about it.

22:13

And it tells you word for word

22:13

the **** you've never told anybody.

22:18

It perfectly writes down exactly every

22:18

inch of you that you're like, Oh my god,

22:24

did you read my diary when I was six? Like, what is happening?

22:26

Like, why do you know I do this? Or why do you Especially when you get

22:28

into the gene keys, which is my specialty.

22:31

I don't stay too much in human design. I like the basics of human design,

22:32

which is like your type, your strategy.

22:36

But the gene keys is where my magic

22:36

comes in, because that tells you exactly

22:40

what you're here to do, and it tells

22:40

you exactly where your weaknesses are,

22:43

where your shadows are, and then we

22:43

can use that in your business as well.

22:47

And so what is, even for myself, I know

22:47

that you had dropped the word gene key

22:50

several times, but what, what is that? Is that part of like the human design?

22:53

Like what is a gene key? So Richard Rudd created the gene keys.

22:56

He studied under the

22:56

creator of human design.

22:59

And so he was actually the

22:59

London entity of human design.

23:03

And he is like a poet at heart. He's like a super.

23:06

beautiful written poet, right? And he said that human design was

23:08

kind of limited and the words were

23:11

very abrasive and kind of triggering.

23:13

So what he did, because it is

23:13

like, if you have, let's say, you

23:16

know, human design is very, very

23:16

dry if you really think about it.

23:20

And if you don't have an open

23:20

concept, you have to take the

23:23

word with a grain of salt. If that's what that means,

23:24

like, you know what I mean? So like I don't know a good example,

23:26

but there's a bunch of examples.

23:28

So he went into the gene keys,

23:28

which are the human design gates.

23:31

So if you look at your human design

23:31

chart, you have these like lines

23:34

on the, on the side with these

23:34

planets and these random numbers.

23:37

He went in and wrote a little bit

23:37

more of a story of every aspect of

23:41

the journey through these gene keys.

23:44

And so when you get this book,

23:44

it's like 30 bucks on Amazon.

23:47

It's called Richard, it's called

23:47

the gene keys by Richard Rudd.

23:50

And what you do is you go to your

23:50

chart and you look at the number,

23:53

and then you go to the book. And it'll tell you the shadow, the

23:55

gift, and the city, which is the low

23:59

potential, the high potential, and

23:59

then like the transcendent potential.

24:03

And every single time you are living

24:03

in the shadow is when you feel out of

24:07

alignment, or you feel like life is hard. And when you step into the gift,

24:09

you can see, you know, what your

24:12

bigger purpose And isn't that

24:12

what we all want to know anyways?

24:14

It's like, what the **** am I doing here? Right? It tells you what you're doing

24:16

here, and it's beautifully written.

24:20

Oh, I love that. I'm like writing it down.

24:22

I'm like, I'm going to make sure to go buy it. Oh, it's so good.

24:24

And then when, so even if you're just

24:24

doing that, but then when you take it

24:28

into business, which is what I did, I

24:28

was like, okay, so if this **** is like

24:32

so perfect and can, you know, read me

24:32

like a book, like it is the language

24:35

to my emotions, the language to how

24:35

I feel the language of my deepest,

24:39

darkest secrets written in this book.

24:41

I'm like, okay, how can

24:41

I make this even better?

24:44

And I started researching about

24:44

how I can use this in business

24:46

because I'm like, my life is okay. I don't really care about that.

24:49

I want to know how to make money. I want to know how to be successful.

24:51

I want to go do the thing. Right. And so I was like, what do I

24:53

need to pay attention to, to get

24:56

the most results in my business? So there's certain gene keys.

24:59

And this is what I work with in my

24:59

clients is we do your messaging, we do

25:02

your branding, we do your role in the

25:02

community, your biggest core talent, like

25:07

all of these things that can tell you.

25:10

And then. You hear it and you're like, oh my

25:10

gosh, the thing I've been hiding this

25:13

whole time is actually what I'm here

25:13

to do, and you can't ever go back.

25:17

Yeah, so, I would love to kind of walk

25:17

through the process of how you support

25:22

people in a sense, because it sounds like

25:22

You're kind of almost like hyper niched

25:25

and also hyper focused, but it's like you

25:25

do this like energetic side of things, but

25:30

it's through the business specifically. So like, I'd love to hear like what

25:32

you do specifically for others.

25:36

Yeah. So being a projector, I read energy.

25:38

I've always been that way. You can probably attest to this too.

25:41

Like when you're working with your clients. One hundred percent. I can feel it from a mile away.

25:44

I can feel people's energy. So the way that we have.

25:47

Our aura, which I'll tell you how

25:47

projectors work and why we are the guide.

25:51

So if you find out that you are a

25:51

projector, you are the guide, you

25:54

are the, the advisor in the team.

25:56

And that's where our role we're not meant

25:56

to do like the generators and manage ends.

25:59

And so our aura is like a cone, right?

26:02

So the tip goes into people and we shine

26:02

a light on the things that they can't see.

26:06

So when I found out this information, I

26:06

would tell people, like, if I told you,

26:11

everybody listening, if I told you all

26:11

these amazing things about yourself,

26:15

You would probably be like, Nah, I

26:15

don't really see that, or I don't know.

26:19

But if I told you everything bad

26:19

about yourself, all your weaknesses,

26:23

you'd believe me in a heartbeat. Yes or no, right?

26:26

When you read these things and let's say

26:26

you get your human design chart or you

26:30

go through your gene keys and it's saying

26:30

all of these things about you, you're

26:34

blinded by what your beliefs are, right?

26:38

So if you don't believe that you

26:38

are here to make money or master the

26:41

material plane because you were told as

26:41

a kid that your parents, you know, your

26:45

parents were like money is all evil or

26:45

whatever that thing is, you can't see it.

26:49

So what I do is I'll tell you all of

26:49

these things, but there's also that

26:53

deeper aspect of do you believe it? So I got to break through what's blocking

26:54

you from actually trusting these things

27:00

and letting yourself have these things

27:00

because, believe it or not, we all

27:04

have beliefs around, can it be easy?

27:07

Can we trust ourselves? Can we trust our authority?

27:09

Can we make decisions from this

27:09

easier place or do we feel like it

27:13

has to be hard for it to be worth it? And I go in and I find out exactly

27:15

what those beliefs are and we work

27:20

through them and release them so that

27:20

you can double down on your strategy.

27:23

So I always say I come in as the foundation. I'm the cart before

27:25

the horse kind of vibe. So like you want to come to me when you

27:27

need to know exactly how you operate so

27:31

that everything moving forward is from

27:31

like that strong, you know, stick in

27:36

the ground place that you're like, any

27:36

investment I make in my marketing or

27:40

coaching or anything I want to do, it

27:40

comes from that solid place versus that

27:44

like lifeline insecure place, right? So it gives you the authority back, but I

27:46

also have to help you believe it because

27:50

sometimes so many, you're so close to it.

27:53

Like if I told you your gift is to

27:53

do this, you'd be like, I believe

27:57

a little bit of that, right? And it takes some work to believe that.

28:00

So I teach you how to make practices

28:00

to believe and trust yourself.

28:04

So, the believing, the trusting,

28:04

and then that way you can implement

28:07

the change and implement leaning

28:07

into your true version of yourself.

28:11

Yeah, because think about when people

28:11

compliment you, we always like back

28:13

it up with something different. Like, they're like, Oh, cute shoes. You're like, Oh, well I got them on sale.

28:16

Like, you know, so, you know, it's like

28:16

right in or like somebody compliments

28:20

your hair and you're like, Oh, me? Oh, thanks. You know, I haven't gotten my

28:22

roots touched up in forever.

28:25

Exactly. Or like, your makeup looks so nice today.

28:27

It's like, Oh, really? Like, Oh, you know, nobody

28:28

ever just says thank you.

28:31

But if I say like, oh, you know, you

28:31

have a hole in your, like, shirt, you'd

28:34

be like, oh, I know, super emb like, you

28:34

would believe it, you would internalize

28:38

it, and it would ruin your whole day. Right? It's the total opposite.

28:41

So, so many times we don't believe or

28:41

trust our inner voice, and we look to

28:46

somebody else to give us the answers,

28:46

and it's my mission to say no more.

28:50

When you don't know something,

28:50

or you don't, know what to do

28:54

next, you have the answers. But you have to trust yourself to listen,

28:56

and so many of us don't listen, and then

29:00

we put all of our power into somebody

29:00

else's, hand, and when you do that from

29:03

a place of like, I'm gonna ask you your

29:03

advice, I'm gonna be willing to hear it,

29:07

but I'm also gonna check in with me first. And you're the end all be all.

29:11

I love all of this. And does this, like, with what you do

29:12

and like, your offers, and I know we're

29:16

gonna talk about like, what resources

29:16

you have available, whether that's your

29:20

program, an offer, coaching, or whatever.

29:22

But do you also do this

29:22

with the team as well?

29:25

Like, do you have that sort of support? Yes.

29:28

So what I've done is a lot of my clients,

29:28

like I said, are business owners.

29:31

So once I do their marketing strategy

29:31

and I do their business strategy

29:35

and we work together on their

29:35

beliefs, then they're like, hold up.

29:38

Okay. Now I see myself from a

29:39

whole different light. Can you do my team?

29:42

And it's not something that I

29:42

offer, like, just straight out the

29:44

gate, because like I said, I want

29:44

to know the business owner first.

29:47

So we usually go through a program of that. And then you have to.

29:50

if I feel like it's a good fit, you can,

29:50

but there's other people that are experts.

29:54

Like, I have no ego when it comes to that.

29:56

There are other people that

29:56

are straight team experts.

29:59

So if that is something that you're

29:59

like, my team is chaos, which I

30:02

recommend checking in with yourself

30:02

first, because you're the leader.

30:04

My team is chaos, but you're locked in.

30:07

Then I would hire somebody that comes in

30:07

and specializes in that because they do

30:10

some crazy **** with your charts, where

30:10

they like layer them together and see

30:14

what people connect to what, what, you

30:14

know, How they can work best together.

30:19

But I work very, very well

30:19

with the business owner.

30:23

Hmm. Gotcha. So what would you recommend for someone

30:24

who hasn't like explored this route when

30:27

it comes to let's start with themselves?

30:29

Because like you said, and I agree

30:29

with this, that if you're chaos,

30:32

everything else is going to be chaos. It could be your life is chaos.

30:35

I think Brooke is the one who always

30:35

says it in like our breakthrough calls

30:37

and always reminds me of this all

30:37

the time that like your business is a

30:40

reflection of your life and if your life

30:40

is chaotic and there's no peace in it,

30:44

then your business isn't going to be

30:44

peaceful and it's going to be chaotic.

30:47

My life lately is so peaceful, I'm

30:47

like waiting for the other shoe to

30:49

drop, which I'm trying my best like

30:49

to not tell myself that because like

30:53

maybe just life is really peaceful. Everything is fall in it, my

30:55

businesses, my family, my friends,

31:00

my everything in my house, all these

31:00

things for the first time in my life.

31:03

Feel at peace. And so sometimes though, like right

31:05

now, it seems so easy with the

31:08

business and it's like, I'm leaning in. Also, we're like rebranding

31:09

my whole entire firm. Like, we're changing everything.

31:13

And it's like, I'm finally leaning

31:13

into this version of myself and who I

31:17

truly am by just like being, being me.

31:19

And I'm just tired of fitting

31:19

into a bucket that everybody

31:21

else says I need to fit into. You know, what's a really good book for

31:23

this is The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks.

31:27

I've read that book like a thousand times. I also have a book list that

31:29

tells you exactly these things.

31:31

But it is all about your upper limit and

31:31

how, you know, much happiness or ease

31:37

are you willing to let yourself have. So it sounds like you're the

31:39

perfect candidate for that book. I highly recommend it.

31:42

I've read it. Oh, you have? It's literally sitting right

31:44

here, which is so funny.

31:46

Oh my gosh. I love that for some weird reason. I just didn't put it in the

31:48

stack of all the other books. It just happens to be

31:50

sitting, staring at me. Of course it is.

31:52

I'm not surprised by any means of that. Good book though.

31:55

Yes. I highly recommend. So when someone is trying to just like

31:57

kind of go down this path, I know that

32:03

for me, I'm not a big woo woo person. Like I've just never have been.

32:06

But lately as I've gotten

32:06

older, I realized that like.

32:10

Hmm, like this is really interesting that

32:10

like I do believe in like the money energy

32:15

I believe in like manifestation like and

32:15

I never used to I mean man when I bought

32:19

this house before I Put these boards up to

32:19

put mirrors on them I literally took green

32:24

paint and painted like money signs happy

32:24

signs heart signs a little picture of a

32:28

dog So that I can claim like that energy.

32:31

And I'm not even like

32:31

normally this type of person.

32:33

I literally strategically put

32:33

a whole wall of mirrors because

32:36

that to me represents expansion. I installed carpet because I believe

32:38

that money will flow on hardwood,

32:42

but it'll stick when it's carpet. Like I am so big.

32:44

It's so weird though. I never used to be this like woo person.

32:48

So for anybody who is like

32:48

listening, like, this is so cheesy.

32:51

This is so ridiculous. How do you convince them that like, Swear,

32:52

lean into this and your life will change.

32:57

So that's my husband, right? My husband was, like, the typical,

32:58

I mean, structural engineer,

33:01

type A, like, you go do you, boo.

33:04

And I bring a real

33:04

aspect to the woo, right?

33:06

So, like, I always say, like, my podcast

33:06

is Woo Woo Wednesday, but I bring

33:09

the real homegirl perspective to it.

33:11

Because I'm not out there dancing

33:11

under the moon naked with,

33:14

like, crunchy **** in my hair. Like, I'm just not that person.

33:16

I am a real person. But I'm all about cheat codes.

33:19

How can I make my life easier? And I always tell you,

33:20

what's the downside? What is the downside of

33:22

you painting money signs?

33:24

Did it make you happier? Even if you don't make a

33:26

dollar, did it make you happier? Right?

33:30

So it's like, what is the downside of

33:30

testing it and then seeing if it works?

33:34

And with human design, it can sound very

33:34

out there, but if you just try it and

33:41

then you get a result, what did you lose?

33:43

Your ego, like, I'm not saying you

33:43

have to go rub crystals and all that

33:47

stuff, like, I'm not saying that, even

33:47

though, hey, bless, I'm about that

33:50

life, too, but if you try something that

33:50

makes, you're already doing something

33:55

that nobody else, you already went

33:55

left when everybody went right, right?

33:58

You, you didn't do the Corbera, you

33:58

went and did your own thing, you're

34:01

already doing the damn thing, so if

34:01

there is something out there that can

34:04

make your life a little bit easier,

34:04

just a little bit, why not try it?

34:08

Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's like, why not make it easier?

34:12

Go put your feet in the grass, like go do

34:12

all of these things because I'm just not

34:15

buying the fact that we are just here not

34:15

having any map to life, not understanding

34:20

who we are or anything like that. Like we're just here to do one

34:22

thing and be miserable, work,

34:25

make a paycheck, hopefully retire

34:25

for six years before we die.

34:28

Like I'm just, I'm not buying it. And so when I found human design,

34:30

I'm like, holy ****, this is

34:33

the map to dominate the earth. This is how we dominate our meat suit.

34:36

And it makes our life easier. And when you apply it, how many times

34:37

have you applied, I'll just, they

34:41

trust you, I can be this crazy person,

34:41

so it's fine, but they trust you.

34:44

How many times have you trusted

34:44

either your human design or any other

34:48

personality test and you listened

34:48

to it, what were the results?

34:52

Always expansion. Always a good result.

34:54

It was always leaning into it, whether

34:54

it's BS or not, whether it's true or not.

34:58

Like if I innately believe it, like

34:58

you said, going back to your beliefs,

35:01

like when I believe it, it will happen.

35:03

Like one big thing that I always

35:03

say a lot to my clients and even to

35:06

like my friends and family, I really

35:06

believe that money is a faucet.

35:10

I can control how and

35:10

how fast it comes out.

35:13

I get to control when I want to turn

35:13

it on and when I want to turn it off.

35:16

And I think a lot of people

35:16

listening are like, that's insane.

35:18

Like, there's no way I've never, I

35:18

just talked to one of our breakthrough

35:21

students the other day who was talking

35:21

about how she does not believe that

35:25

she can make over 65 K a year, like

35:25

cannot believe it at any capacity.

35:29

And I, it just blows my mind

35:29

because at the end of the day,

35:32

it's like, you are so like.

35:34

It's worth making more. And but she's believed that she can

35:36

only cap herself at the salary and

35:39

only be capped at like a certain place. And so I just love this conversation

35:41

because the energy piece is like

35:45

one of the most important parts. So when you, I want to see,

35:47

do you have your chart? I want to see if we can

35:49

really like, I'm going to see

35:51

if I can. Yeah. So I actually have my, I

35:52

know that I'm a projector.

35:54

I pulled it up before this because I knew

35:54

you were going to ask me something for me.

35:58

My strategies wait for the invitation.

36:01

Yep. And my profile is 6 3. I have no idea what any of that

36:03

means other than the wait for the

36:05

invitation because that is huge for me. That I know how to lean into.

36:09

Okay, so I'm going to tell you to go to your chart. So I do I actually am working on a

36:11

guide for this and a full podcast thing.

36:16

So this will be like, cause I know

36:16

this is how people, it resonates.

36:19

Okay. So you're going to go to your chart. And I'll pull it up right now.

36:22

This is going to be your brand's

36:22

personality style, like your tone.

36:25

And we're going to see if this matches with you, right? Because you don't, I don't think

36:27

you've ever done this before, right?

36:30

So you're going to go to your chart and you're going to go to the personality side.

36:33

So on top of it, it'll say personality

36:33

and the first number, so it's

36:36

going to be a circle with a dot. It'll have like a number and

36:38

then a point, another number.

36:41

Okay. Yep. 42.

36:44

42. 6 on the personality side,

36:44

the circle with the dot.

36:47

Yep, the first one. That's your conscious son. Okay, so that is your brand.

36:50

That's how you shine out to the world. And what number was it?

36:52

42. 6.

36:54

Okay, so you're a six line. So your style slash personality

36:56

is through vision and education.

36:59

So you are a visionary,

36:59

a natural educator.

37:02

You're most in turn with the

37:02

long term needs of others.

37:05

Systems, obviously. You have the capacity to completely

37:06

change someone's worldview

37:09

and an entire community. Your vision can't be communicated quickly.

37:14

This is your true means of

37:14

communication is through education.

37:17

So you don't offer solutions, you offer

37:17

an education so that the problem of your

37:21

clients can be dealt with at the roots. You teach them to create and

37:23

trust in their own wisdom, and

37:26

you think at a system level. You create environments where

37:29

people can discover what is

37:31

best in them and for them. When you are using your life's work,

37:33

your brand's gene key, note that you

37:37

need to be quite formal and logical in

37:37

your presentation and communication.

37:41

Also why you told me to convince

37:41

all your type A people that this

37:44

is bull****, how would I convince

37:44

them that this is real, right?

37:47

So you're marketing more than a product. You invite people in to study

37:49

the purpose of the product.

37:52

To learn to enjoy and understand

37:52

the product, and you lead us all

37:57

toward greater collective prosperity. Interesting.

37:59

It's one of the big things

37:59

that really stuck out is.

38:01

One of my big things for any of our

38:01

listeners right now who have taken any

38:05

of my programs knows that I will never

38:05

just tell you, like, if I just give

38:08

you the template and I just give you

38:08

the whole thing and then give you the

38:11

build out and I help you build Content

38:11

Snare and build out your Asana, build

38:14

out all these things, you're never

38:14

going to learn because you're never

38:17

going to go where you truly want to go. Because at the end of the day, if you

38:19

cannot solve the root problem, and

38:22

if Asana crashed today, I can go to

38:22

ClickUp because I've taught you how to

38:26

create the foundation and you should

38:26

be able to migrate to any system.

38:29

And so when you said that, I

38:29

was like, That is literally

38:31

what I do at Workflow Queen. And people go crazy.

38:33

Sometimes they're like, Alyssa, I just want Notion. I just want Notion that you

38:36

built inside a Breakthrough.

38:38

I'm like, you don't understand. You have to understand holistically

38:39

how to run team meetings, how to

38:43

have those conversations, how to

38:43

hire your team before I can give you

38:46

this template and they go so crazy

38:46

because I just won't give it to them.

38:50

And I'm like, but then every

38:50

single student who has gone

38:53

through it, gotten the Notion,

38:53

went through the program is like.

38:57

Now I see why you were so adamant

38:57

about how no one's allowed to have that

39:01

thing without going through this first.

39:03

And the reason you stick to it because

39:03

it comes through you, that isn't fake.

39:07

It isn't what you learned, right? You didn't learn that from a

39:09

mentor that said, you know,

39:11

you have to teach them how. Because that's not the normal way, right?

39:15

They usually say, done for you,

39:15

buy my program, and then I'm gonna

39:17

give you the, you know, step one

39:17

through three for four or whatever,

39:20

and they don't get results, right? So when you understand that, like,

39:21

mine's through heart and feeling.

39:24

So I bring an emotional,

39:24

authentic expression of feeling.

39:27

That's why I say, like, I'm

39:27

****ing buying it, you know?

39:30

And I use real human examples. So anytime that I do any

39:31

marketing or Anything like that.

39:36

I always bring real stories,

39:36

whether that's mine, whether that's

39:40

my clients through testimonials. I have my clients on the podcast because

39:41

I know that for me to connect my message

39:46

and my work, it's through building trust.

39:50

And that is through real human

39:50

examples, and also heart and feelings.

39:53

So when you understand like, okay, so I

39:53

have a way that naturally comes through.

39:56

Cause right. That was naturally through you.

39:59

It gets to be easier, right? Because now if I were to told you,

40:00

okay, Alyssa, you should probably

40:03

be funnier because you know, in

40:03

your industry, it's kind of boring.

40:06

You should probably be funny. I am funnier though.

40:09

But you know, but if it wasn't,

40:09

so a line three is humor pleasure.

40:12

So of course you have a line three in

40:12

there, but it's like, if I were to say

40:15

you need to be funny, tell jokes or

40:15

whatever it, and you weren't, and you were

40:19

the line four, It wouldn't work, right? Your people wouldn't feel it.

40:23

It would be on a different radio station. So if you think about your messaging

40:24

or the brand or what you bring to

40:27

your business, it's like a radio and

40:27

you're, you know, smooth jazz, but

40:32

your client your real client that

40:32

you need to attract is on country.

40:37

And you're, you need to speak

40:37

country so that they can hear you

40:40

and pay you and work with you. But you refuse to be on country

40:41

and you want to be on smooth

40:44

jazz because Sally over here is

40:44

having success on smooth jazz.

40:47

It's never going to work and

40:47

you know what that feels like.

40:50

It feels hard. It feels like you're getting

40:50

crickets or it feels like when you

40:53

do sign them on, you're like, Oh

40:53

my God, we are just not getting it.

40:56

We just don't work well together. Right. And we know what that feels like.

40:59

We've all been there. Yeah. So where is like this, even just what

41:01

you kind of just read out about the

41:05

marketing, the branding, like, is that

41:05

something that you offer in a program?

41:08

Is that something that you offer in

41:08

like something that people can buy?

41:11

Like what does that look like? So I do all of this in my programs.

41:14

This is how I get you the results

41:14

that you need because instead of

41:18

just saying like, yeah, you're this,

41:18

I explain it to you so that you can

41:21

understand it and then we use it. Right. So first we go through.

41:24

So how my programs work is you

41:24

work with me for six months.

41:27

We do two calls a month and

41:27

first we go into the beliefs.

41:29

I go into what isn't

41:29

working in your life, right?

41:33

So if there's anywhere that you're stuck

41:33

or anywhere that you're just meeting that

41:36

resistance, You don't have to tell me. I can feel it.

41:39

You could tell me all these things,

41:39

but I'm going to tell you the truth.

41:43

Just like probably a list of

41:43

does where it's like, Oh no,

41:45

it's definitely my system. And you're like, I don't know about that.

41:48

Right. Where they're like, yeah, no, it's my marketing. I'm like, no, it's you.

41:51

So we go into the beliefs and then I make

41:51

sure all of that confidence is there.

41:56

So that way, when we do get to the

41:56

strategy, you're able to receive it.

42:00

Right? Because if I just give you the

42:00

strategy, but you're like, well, I

42:03

don't really believe in myself that

42:03

much, or I won't let myself have

42:07

the clients, or I don't have the

42:07

confidence to share what I'm sharing.

42:09

Why would I give you your marketing message? Right? Why would I give you the strategy

42:11

if you don't feel comfortable even

42:14

sharing yourself with the world? So that's how I work.

42:17

I don't do the strategy first,

42:17

I do your strategy first, and

42:20

then we go into the business stuff. Interesting, interesting.

42:23

It's so funny because one of the

42:23

things that we're changing up at like

42:26

my firm, as you know I also own my

42:26

own bookkeeping consulting firm, well

42:29

we're going through this, I'm calling

42:29

it a rebirth, I'm not calling it a

42:31

rebrand, I like refuse to call it that. We're like changing the name, like

42:32

we have not announced it, like

42:35

it's gonna be so good, it's like

42:35

so energetic and I'm so excited.

42:38

My business name is literally magnetic

42:38

bookkeeping and consulting like

42:42

it's already the energy was very

42:42

intentional on naming that business.

42:45

But one of the big things that I'm

42:45

leaning into is trying to see how I

42:48

can pull more of the energetic side of

42:48

business, which is really funny that

42:52

we're talking about energetic strategy

42:52

into the financial piece because I just

42:55

recently did a podcast episode where

42:55

I was talking to the owner and I told

42:58

him that I just wish that more people

42:58

would like lean into the energy of

43:02

like, if you feel a full body, **** yes.

43:05

When you are making a decision, well,

43:05

every coach, every guru and every person

43:09

is going to tell you, you are stupid and

43:09

you are crazy, but you innately know and

43:12

understand that that's where you need to

43:12

lean into and that you're willing to take

43:16

that risk and go against all the odds.

43:19

I can't tell you how many times the

43:19

people that we've supported in my

43:21

firm and even for myself, we've seen

43:21

them skyrocket to another version of

43:25

themselves because they leaned into

43:25

that and they had really big success.

43:30

From not listening to

43:30

what everybody else did.

43:32

So the reason I'm saying that is I'm

43:32

trying to find more ways in my own

43:35

firm whether that's the conversations

43:35

in the marketing, whether that's the.

43:39

Information that we do, or maybe we like

43:39

learn from our clients, like what's your

43:42

human design so we can maybe understand

43:42

the way they think, the way they process.

43:46

How do we approach them in consulting calls? Because it's not how I approach you.

43:50

I have some clients who like

43:50

details and every step and they're

43:52

going to share their spreadsheets after, and they're going to show us the KPIs and break it down.

43:56

Then you got some of them who never ask us about numbers and it's all just like energy.

43:59

And, and, and I'm trying to find

43:59

this way to not be like everybody

44:03

says in the industry, which is

44:03

you have to constantly just.

44:08

Review the reports on a call. It doesn't matter.

44:10

Just review the reports. Get it done. Do your month in this way.

44:13

Do it this way. And it's just so interesting because I

44:14

feel like there's so many different signs

44:17

and now that I've become, I guess, woo woo

44:17

esque I keep receiving signs that this is

44:21

the right route and even just doing this. Interview with you is like the last little

44:23

straw of like the path that I'm on with

44:27

this new change we're making in my firm

44:27

about leaning into the energetics with

44:30

money, but also with the logistics is

44:30

the right move because it's so important.

44:37

Well, you're already a projector

44:37

who sees people differently, right?

44:40

So when you work with a projector,

44:40

like you're going to be seen like

44:43

you've never been seen before. So. It's not that you have to try

44:45

doing that, you're going to do that

44:47

already, but there's ways that we

44:47

can communicate with other people.

44:51

So like projectors, we like open

44:51

ended questions because we need

44:54

to find the answer ourselves. Generators and manifesting generators

44:55

like yes or no questions because they

44:58

have to wait for their gut to respond. So if you're coming in trying to ask an

45:00

open ended question, they don't know until

45:04

you give them something to respond to. So that is their strategy.

45:08

So we all have a strategy and I feel

45:08

like this helps with your team, with

45:12

your family, literally everybody

45:12

on the planet, even yourself.

45:15

So if you have this strategy of waiting to

45:15

respond, which is manifesting generators

45:20

and generators, you need something.

45:22

So say you want to do. Something.

45:25

And then you see a podcast episode or

45:25

you see a post or somebody asks you a

45:29

question or you get a sign or something. That's your cue to go, right?

45:32

Instead of initiating. Same with projectors. We have to wait for the invitation

45:34

because our energy is so limited.

45:37

And then you have like the manifester

45:37

who's just, **** you, I'm going, right?

45:40

They're the initiators. So when you feel like you have

45:41

this understanding of, okay, yeah.

45:45

This is how I'm meant to respond to

45:45

life or this is how I respond to life

45:50

and create opportunities for myself. That's a little bit easier.

45:53

The next deeper level you can

45:53

do with that is their authority.

45:56

So everybody has a decision

45:56

making authority, right?

45:59

So if you look at yours, I'm emotional.

46:02

But if you look at yours, it'll

46:02

say inner authority on your chart.

46:05

And this one, I feel like is

46:05

probably the most helpful next

46:08

to strategy and type because your

46:08

authority is how you make decisions.

46:12

mine's Tune, it says,

46:12

Tune into your intuition.

46:16

So Spleenic. So, when you have a Spleenic

46:17

Authority, you can know right

46:20

away whether it's a yes or a no. It just downloads into you

46:21

and you're like, I can't explain it, I just know, right?

46:25

I just know it's right. I just know when it's right. I know I can feel it.

46:28

You can't explain it. Yep. I don't, I can't explain it to anybody.

46:30

I just like, I know this is right. I'm doing it. You're not supposed to.

46:33

So it's a, if it's an

46:33

automatic yes, then yes, right?

46:36

If it's an automatic no, then it's a no. And so your splenic response means

46:38

that you are going to be spontaneous

46:42

where I'm an emotional authority. I need 24 hours because I have an

46:44

emotional weight that I can't make a

46:48

decision in the now because if I'm in

46:48

a low, my answer is going to be so much

46:51

different than if I'm in a high, right? So an emotional authority is

46:53

going to respond differently.

46:55

So my thing for big. you know, big decisions.

47:00

If I'm going to sign on with a coach

47:00

or if I'm going to make an investment

47:02

in my business, I have to wait even

47:02

saying yes to this kind of opportunity.

47:06

I need to wait, sleep on it. Right? So if you have an emotional

47:08

authority, sleep on it as your

47:11

best friend, where generators and

47:11

manage ends usually have a sacral.

47:15

This is that trust your gut. So a lot of people have that instant

47:16

yes or that instant no, right?

47:20

Where it's like, uh huh, or

47:20

I don't really like that.

47:23

And so, but the big thing is

47:23

none of us trust our authorities.

47:26

Because how many times have you

47:26

been like, I just, I just know.

47:29

And people are like, no, you need to think about it. No, you need to wait 24

47:30

hours or no, you're crazy.

47:33

Like you know, nobody can just

47:33

make a decision like that.

47:35

Right. Or the gut people are like, Oh no,

47:36

your gut is that's all woo woo.

47:39

You don't want to listen to your gut. You need to listen to your mind to be

47:40

logical and weigh the pros and cons.

47:43

And the emotional authorities, like

47:43

every time I make a decision in

47:45

the now when I'm high, now freaking

47:45

excited me has to go deliver.

47:48

Right. So it's like. That's how you can understand

47:50

how people best operate, so

47:53

you're not rushing people. So it's like, when you understand

47:54

who you are at a foundation

47:57

level, everything becomes easier. And when you're working in

47:59

the business of people, how do

48:02

you give them a better result? You understand how they operate, right?

48:05

Like, wouldn't you feel so seen if

48:05

somebody asked you a question and then

48:08

you were like, Yes, and they're like,

48:08

Oh my god, I love that you do that.

48:11

Like, Yeah, I love when people, I love when

48:12

people acknowledge when like, I just am

48:17

like, yes, but you know one thing I do

48:17

have to say though, which I don't know

48:20

if this is like conflicting to what

48:20

it says is my thing, I can innately,

48:24

right in this minute, I don't need 24

48:24

hours, like it's just not my thing.

48:27

No, no, not even a little bit. If I wait 24 hours, like

48:28

it's, yeah, it's all bad.

48:30

Um, but anyways. There also are moments where

48:32

like in the moment I'll be like,

48:34

man, I want to go to Finland. Like I really want to go to Finland.

48:36

And I'm like on a mission to like just book it. And I'm probably just going

48:38

to book it one of these days. And it's going to be

48:40

randomly out of nowhere. I'm just going to book the trip.

48:43

But then like the day comes around and I'm

48:43

like, energetically, I'm just not okay.

48:47

But I also know, and I don't know

48:47

if this is where it translates.

48:49

I also know in that moment that I'm

48:49

not going to wait on it 24 hours.

48:52

I'm going to cancel it right then and there. And exactly.

48:54

It's just trusting your decisions, right? And then trusting the

48:56

outcome of those decisions.

48:58

Right. So where you're like, I made this

48:59

decision because then when you're not

49:01

feeling it, you're not mad at yourself.

49:03

Right? You're just like, okay, I

49:04

don't feel like it anymore. Okay, that's just the way it is.

49:07

It's not like you're justifying

49:07

it to anybody or anything.

49:10

Like, you're like, hey, I actually don't

49:10

have the energy to do this anymore.

49:13

Okay, it was fun. I chose to do it. Now I chose not to do it.

49:15

Yeah, that's a seriously all the time. Brooke literally has a joke.

49:19

She's like, I pulled an Alyssa, she

49:19

calls me the other day, because she like,

49:21

bailed out of something that she had

49:21

already You know, committed to bought

49:24

the ticket and did all the things. She's like, I literally pulled a you and I

49:26

just pulled out and I do it all the time.

49:30

Like I buy hotels, the flight,

49:30

the whole thing is planned.

49:33

And then I'll be like, you know what? I just don't want to go.

49:36

And it happens often. So now it's like a thing.

49:39

That's why Brooke is like, I'm holding you. Because Brooke is, she's

49:40

probably splayed it too. She's like, will invite

49:42

me like the day of.

49:44

Like, hey, do you want to go do this? I'm like, girl, I'm like a 24 hour notice.

49:47

Like, I need to prep. I need to be mentally

49:48

prepared, emotionally prepared

49:51

to like plan my whole day. Like, I am not a spontaneous person.

49:54

And when I realized there is no

49:54

truth in the now for me, it made my

49:59

life and business so much easier. So if you look at your chart and you're

50:00

an emotional authority, I can tell

50:03

you it's 50 percent of the population

50:03

and 50 percent are not emotional.

50:06

Also. There you go. so when you are an emotional authority,

50:08

it's kind of like when you get an email

50:11

and a client will be like, hey, we need

50:11

this, but you're in an emotional low.

50:14

So you read it and you're like, what?

50:17

How dare you challenge me?

50:20

And you get all aggravated. And then you go to respond.

50:24

And then you read it the next day. And all they said was

50:25

like, hey, do you have the. Line for this and you feel horrible

50:27

because you're like, oh my God,

50:30

that's not even what I read like

50:30

and you lash out or with family or

50:34

with anything you lash out in this

50:34

emotional low or you're super excited.

50:38

Like I used to do this on calls. They would be like, okay, what's the price

50:39

and I'd be on the call and then I would

50:42

just shoot out an answer because I was so

50:42

high like excited to work with them to get

50:46

the yes because that's like in business. Yes, I want to.

50:48

Yes. And then I would like

50:49

get home and I'm like. Oh my god, what did I do?

50:53

I just severely undercharged for this,

50:53

or overcharged, or whatever the work was.

50:56

And so I realized, like, I'm not

50:56

allowed to talk pricing on calls.

50:59

Like, that's just not the way it is. So if you want something custom,

51:00

which I don't do anymore, but I

51:03

wasn't able to do that anymore. And it helped save my life and business

51:04

because I wasn't bitter all the time.

51:08

So when you understand how you're meant

51:08

to operate, business is hard enough.

51:12

Right? Like we can all agree

51:12

business is freaking hard.

51:15

So when you can figure out how you can

51:15

have a little bit of getting your body

51:19

to be an assistant instead of fighting

51:19

you, business gets to be easier.

51:24

Is it still going to be hard? Yes. Is it still going to

51:25

scare the **** out of you? Is it still going to be

51:26

horrible every other day? Yes.

51:29

But it gets you to trust you so that

51:29

you feel like you have a companion

51:33

instead of going at it all along. Yes, I love that.

51:37

Oh my gosh, it's a great topic. I'm so excited for all the things.

51:39

And so, I know that we're here at the end

51:39

and we could go on forever and I'm like,

51:42

I know, I'm like, we could

51:42

go down every rabbit hole.

51:44

I will help all of you. I know, it's gonna be all bad, so.

51:48

I wanted to, , kind of lean into,

51:48

I know that you got a lot of stuff

51:51

going on in the background with some

51:51

things that you're relaunching, like

51:54

one of your programs, and so I would

51:54

just love for you to take the time

51:57

to let people know how they can work

51:57

with you, how can they get into your

51:59

world so on and so forth, so that way

51:59

they could lean into all things Renee.

52:04

So I do have a podcast where I share

52:04

a lot of this information.

52:07

I do bring that real to the woo woo. So I do cover human design.

52:10

I cover all of that stuff. It's called woo woo Wednesday.

52:12

Two episodes a week. So that's where you can find me there.

52:14

And then I'm also at fresh life

52:14

approach on Instagram, where I

52:17

share everything in stories as well. I do have a group coaching slash

52:19

accountability group starting.

52:22

in April and we go through your Gene Keys.

52:24

So what I do is I create a workbook

52:24

to help you get your balance.

52:28

So we go into the Gene Keys of,

52:28

you know, what keeps you healthy?

52:31

What creates vitality? How do you create space for breakthroughs?

52:34

What keeps you grounded? All of those things to help

52:35

you start to understand.

52:38

at your own pace, kind of what, how

52:38

you operate and how you can start

52:42

to ease into it instead of like

52:42

going full on into this because

52:45

there is so much that you can learn. So that's just eight weeks, super easy.

52:49

And that's starting then and then group

52:49

or regular coaching you can do anytime.

52:54

Do you offer any programs or

52:54

resources that are like self

52:56

paced where people don't have to

52:56

do, do you offer anything like

52:59

that? No, I do a lot of guides. So yeah, like I have that guide

53:01

coming for your brand's personality.

53:05

And then I also have like planning

53:05

your week with the planets but I don't

53:08

do anything like that because this,

53:08

if you need to just do self pace, I'm

53:11

going to tell you the truth right now. Google everything.

53:14

Okay. Human design is so big now that if you

53:14

want to learn anything about it, you

53:20

can either go on Amazon, you can go on

53:20

Google and you can type in your type.

53:24

And then learn as much as you can and

53:24

when you feel like you've hit that

53:28

rut of like, okay, I'm consuming all

53:28

of this stuff, which you're going

53:31

to, I'm just going to, you're not

53:31

going to come out for like four days.

53:33

I'm just going to tell you that right now. And when you finally realize like,

53:35

okay, I need to make this make sense.

53:38

Like I'm here for the how. Right?

53:40

I know I can consume all this, but

53:40

now I need to know how to apply it.

53:43

That's when we work together

53:43

and I get you ****ing results.

53:45

Right? So if you're just in the self paced

53:46

thing, don't waste your money.

53:48

Just go find some

53:48

Google ****. Like save your money.

53:51

But when you want to make that

53:51

change, or you want to get that

53:53

result, or actually apply it one

53:53

on one, that's when you come to

53:57

me. Yes. I love that. I love that explanation too.

54:00

It's like, I'm the same with like what

54:00

we do, even at my firm or even here.

54:03

It's like, you could figure all this stuff out. You truly can.

54:05

But if you want someone to help you

54:05

fast track it, keep you accountable

54:08

and like make sure that you're on

54:08

the right path, then this is going

54:10

to be the right, you know, right. Yeah. If you want it directly, like, cause me,

54:12

I'm like being potatoes, right?

54:15

I'm like, give me the goods. Don't give me the fluff. And so all the fluff you can sift it.

54:19

That's easy. That's all free. Go get the Gene Keys book

54:20

by the, by Richard Rudd.

54:23

Get your chart. It's all free. But when you're like, okay, I need

54:25

to know exactly to get it into my

54:29

brain so that I can embody this and

54:29

use it to make some ****ing money

54:32

around here and make my life easier. That's when you come to me.

54:35

Cause I don't **** around. Yes.

54:37

I love it. I love it. I am so excited.

54:40

I know people are going to love this episode. I know that we still have to talk about

54:42

you being a guest expert in breakthrough.

54:46

So for any of our breakthrough

54:46

listeners hopefully potentially

54:49

Renee will be with us in there

54:49

because it's going to be so fun.

54:52

I just love what you do. It's funny. I, like I said, I was introduced to human

54:54

design at probably a year and a half ago.

54:58

From one of my coaches, which I think you

54:58

know, actually, her name's Jill Stanton.

55:01

I brought you up to her. I was like, I love her and you should

55:02

probably talk to her, blah, blah, blah.

55:05

But anyways and I didn't know what I

55:05

was looking at for quite some time.

55:08

I still had it printed and on the side

55:08

of my bed for like the longest time.

55:12

And I really just, there's still so

55:12

many things I'm learning about it.

55:15

Like every once I'll pick it

55:15

up, I'll read through my stuff.

55:17

And like you said, there's a lot of

55:17

information, but if you know how to

55:20

utilize it, you just step into who

55:20

you really are, everything just.

55:24

I can't explain it. Everything is falling into place in so

55:25

many amazing ways and I can't, like,

55:29

I don't want to try to explain it. Like, I don't want to even, like,

55:31

argue it, if you know what I mean.

55:34

So. Well, I bring a book. I create a book, right?

55:36

So every single one of my clients

55:36

gets a workbook and it has all of it.

55:39

So whenever you're like in that,

55:39

**** this, I'm going to burn it to the ground.

55:42

I'm going to go get a job. I don't want to do this anymore. You pull out your book and you read that

55:43

and then it reminds you who you are.

55:46

Right? It reminds you of your why. It reminds you why you did this, and

55:47

it reminds you that you're capable

55:50

of doing everything you want versus

55:50

spiraling and, you know, literally

55:56

quitting and burning it to the ground. You actually get out of it quicker

55:57

because you know, hey, my mind's

56:01

making up something right now. This is temporary, but this is my truth.

56:05

Yes, I love that. Well, thank you so much.

56:07

I think there's so many amazing golden nuggets here. I hope all of you guys listening

56:09

did not have to hear loud pounding

56:12

this whole entire time because

56:12

they are doing my roof right now.

56:15

And if y'all can hear that,

56:15

I am going to apologize now.

56:17

And I hope he didn't so that

56:17

you didn't hear it either.

56:21

It is loud on my end. It is no fun. So hopefully that's not a thing,

56:23

but thank you everyone for

56:25

listening to today's episode. As you know, Renee dropped her info.

56:28

I will also drop all the links, all

56:28

the book recommendations, all the

56:31

different things that she recommended

56:31

and how to get ahold of her and

56:34

also for her group coaching program

56:34

that she's got going on in April and

56:37

everything that she's got going on. So thank you once again

56:38

for doing this with me.

56:40

I really appreciate you. Thank you, friend.