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On Monday, leaflets fell from the
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sky in southern Gaza. They were
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dropped by Israeli forces, and they
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told residents in parts of Rafah
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that they should evacuate, some 100,000
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people. They
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were directed to a quote, expanded
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humanitarian area north and northwest of
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the city. To many
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people in Rafah, that concept
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is meaningless. There are no
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safe spaces in Gaza. Abdullah Habhamad
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works for a community development organization
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in Gaza. He spoke to us
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this week from Rafah. The concept
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of safe designated area has become elusive
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for the people of Gaza. It is
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illusion because it has just been shattered.
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We speak about 1.3 million
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Palestinians living in a place smaller than
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Hitler Airport. It is the last remaining
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sanctuary in Gaza, the last refuge. And
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by the way, there is no refuge.
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Saturday night, tanks rolled into Rafah,
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taking control of the Palestinian side
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of the border crossing with Egypt.
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Israeli airstrikes had already been pounding
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the city for weeks, killing
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100 since late March, most of
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them women and children, according to
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hospital records. There are at least
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1.3 million Palestinians
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living in Rafah, more
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than half fled fighting in other
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parts of Gaza, including Hamad. I'm
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from the northern part of Gaza. I live in the
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north and I have been displaced
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six times now. This
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is going to be my seventh if I
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evacuated Rafah. He now lives in a
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refugee camp in Rafah. He says what's
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happening there is somehow more than
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a humanitarian crisis. There's not enough
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food and close to no clean
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water. 90% of Gaza's
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health system has collapsed.
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Diseases are on the
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rise, particularly malaria. Like
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that, Rafah, now we have more
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than 600,000 children's in tents. It's
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a city of tents. It's a
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city of children. Hamad said that
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people are ravenous for life, even
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just normal life. And
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for a brief moment earlier this week,
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people in Rafa were actually
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celebrating. Hamas announced
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it had agreed to terms of a
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ceasefire proposed by Egypt in Qatar. The
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moment I heard the kind of preaching
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at deal, I was super happy. I
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kind of celebrated. I
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personally have bought sweets like desserts.
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But then in one night
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shift, it was hilarious, ridiculous.
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Israel's government did not accept the
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ceasefire proposal, but sent a diplomatic
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delegation to Egypt to continue
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negotiations. Consider
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this. Israel says its
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incursion in Rafa is a precise
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counter-terrorism operation. But
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possible further military action along
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with the closed border crossing
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could exacerbate a humanitarian catastrophe.
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From NPR, I'm Wanda Summers. It's
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Consider This from NPR. One
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of the questions hanging over Israel's operation in
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Rafa is this. Where
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is President Biden's red line? There's
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the line that his national security spokesman
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John Kirby used again. We don't
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want to see major ground operations in Rafa that put these people
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at greater risk. And again? We've
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been very clear that we
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don't support a major ground operation in Rafa. Operation
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in general. And again? I'll just go
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back to what I said. I don't
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know, half a dozen, if not more times today.
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We don't support operations in Rafa that put people
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at greater risk. That was all at
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a press briefing on Monday before Israel's incursion
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in Rafa. After its forces
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took over the border crossing, Kirby
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said it did not constitute a
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major ground invasion. The Israelis
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have said this operation they conducted
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last night was of limited duration
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and size and scale and scope,
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limited purpose. What I've
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said is, we've
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heard that and we're
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watching. There was
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one notable development in Biden's relationship
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with Israel. NPR has confirmed reporting
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in Axios that the White House
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paused an arms shipment to Israel.
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A senior administration official speaking on
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condition of anonymity told NPR it
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was due to concerns that the
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bombs could be used in Raffa.
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Whether or not Israel's operation in
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Raffa currently constitutes a major ground
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offensive, the evacuation is
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worsening a desperate situation for people
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living there. NPR international
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correspondent Eya Batrawi has been following
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the story, and she joins me
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now from Dubai. Hi.
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Hey. So, Eya, we know
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that Raffa is where more than half
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of Gaza's population has been sheltering and
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that it's where Israel launched a ground
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operation on Monday. The military
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says that at this stage, troops
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are not advancing towards the main city
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and that they're focused on the eastern
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part of Raffa. But with Israeli tanks
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now in parts of Raffa, what has
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the impact been there? Well,
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Raffa has a really small area bordering Egypt,
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but it's become home to more than 1.4
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million displaced people, half of whom
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are children. So this
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military offensive has jolted and terrified
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people there. They're really concerned that
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this operation is just beginning and
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will expand. Have a listen
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to Israeli government spokesman Abi Hyman explaining
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Israel's military goals in Raffa. This
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is the beginning of our mission
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to take out the last four
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Hamas brigades in Raffa. You
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should be in no doubt about that
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whatsoever. Eya, you spoke today
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with aid workers in Raffa. Let's have
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a listening to your reporting with NPR
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producer Anas Baba in Gaza about what's
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happening on the ground there. And
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I'll warn listeners here that this report
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includes the sound of gunfire, as well
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as graphic scenes of violence. Since
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the October 7th attack on Israel, people in Gaza
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have had to pick up and move again
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and again and again. I'm
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in the south. I'm a dad.
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I'll just sit there. On the beach road
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to the school, tell Shefah hospital, tell
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Shawwah to Rafah. Fatmah
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Bala rattles off the places she's been
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forced to flee. We've
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seen nothing but suffering, says the elderly
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woman who walks with a cane. On
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Monday, she was among the more than 100,000 people in
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Eastern Rafah Israel told to leave. Children
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piled onto donkey carts and in
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cars stacked high with mattresses. But
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most people had to walk through streets
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overflowing with sewage and garbage as they
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dragged luggage and pushed the wounded in
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wheelchairs. Israel sent messages
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like this to get people moving. We
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don't know. We don't
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know. We don't know. We
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don't know. We don't know. We don't
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know. Israel also published
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a grid-like map with the numbered
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blocks of where people should leave
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on social media and in flyers
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dropped from the sky. Where do you end
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up, Gaza, God, it's God. For
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your safety, the Israeli military orders
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you to evacuate immediately to the
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expanded humanitarian area in El Mo'assie,
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the message says. But
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it warns people not to head back too
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far north where Israeli forces have shot people
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trying to reach Gaza City. Less
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than 24 hours later, Israeli tanks
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rolled into Rafah. In
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one viral video, a tank is seen
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rolling over an I Love Gaza sign
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near the Rafah crossing with Egypt. The
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military says troops killed Hamas gunmen in
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that area and found tunnel shafts. The
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operation, however, also shut down the
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Rafah border, the main artery for
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fuel and aid and anyone entering
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or leaving Gaza. Jens
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Larké, spokesman for the UN
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humanitarian office. If no fuel
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comes in for a prolonged period of time,
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it would be a very effective
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way of putting the humanitarian operation.
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and it's great. Hisham Mahane is in Rafah
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with the International Committee of the Red Cross. He
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says severely wounded and chronically ill people
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are trapped, and the health system has
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collapsed. HISHAM MAHANE This is why
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a significant military operation in Rafah
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can be disastrous and will lead
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to absolute carnage. The
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U.N. estimates that tens of thousands fled
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the city on Tuesday. Some
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headed to the scorching, sandy area of
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Al Moesi, others to central Gaza.
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Both areas have been bombed. Dr.
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James Smith, an emergency doctor in Rafah,
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says not everyone can leave the city,
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particularly those who are ill or wounded.
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But people who stay will struggle to find
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treatment. DR. JAMES SMITH
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The European Gaza hospital, which is to the
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northeast of Rafah, is completely overwhelmed already. Several
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of the smaller hospitals in Rafah
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have already started to preemptively evacuate
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patients because they're fearful of what
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the Israeli military might do in
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or around those health facilities. HISHAM
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MAHANE Rafah's main hospital was closed.
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It's in the red zone where people were told to leave.
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Doctors Without Borders emergency coordinator
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in Gaza Silvan Ghulou says
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another hospital in Rafah is
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already moving its incubators and
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equipment to Nazir Hospital in
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nearby Hanunis, which they're trying
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to salvage after an Israeli raid destroyed it.
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As for Hanunis? DR. JAMES
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SMITH The city has been completely destroyed. It
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looks like World War II, and I've never
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seen this level of damage, even a place
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like Mosul or Aleppo. HISHAM MAHANE Although the
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city is more devastated than any he's
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seen in Iraq and Syria, he says. DR.
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JAMES SMITH This offensive is moving very, very quickly. Time
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is not on our side. HISHAM MAHANE Just as
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people were leaving Rafah this week, Israeli
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airstrikes killed at least 13 members of
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the El Derbe family sheltering in a
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home in an area not under evacuation
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orders. The
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body bags are baking in the heat under the
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sun. Rafah's key morgue
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isn't accessible. It's part of the
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main hospital in the Red Zone. Amal
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al-Durbi, a matriarch in the family, names off
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the men, women, and children lying in those
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body bags or still under the rubble. They
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were innocent kids, just kids, she
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says. At the sight of
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the airstrike, rescue workers comb through
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the rubble using only
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shovels. Civil
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defense worker Muhammad al-Hons is helping, but
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he says, should I console
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myself or others? He
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says only yesterday, his uncle,
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his uncle's wife, and their three
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children were killed in an Israeli
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airstrike. But he adds, there's
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no time to grieve. That
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was NPR's Aya Batrawi with reporting
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from Anas Baba in Rafa.
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This episode was produced by Jordan Marie
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Smith, Lena Mohammed, and Connor Donovan. It
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was edited by Courtney Dorning and
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James Heider. Our executive producer is
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Sami Yennigan. And
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one more thing before we go. Consider
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