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All right, y'all ready to huddle? Yes.
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That's Dr. Stephanie Arnold. She opened
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Seven Hills Family Medicine in downtown
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Richmond, Virginia two years ago. NPR's
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Selena Seven-Steffen and Alyssa Nadwirney
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visited the clinic. Dr.
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Arnold works with a small team,
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a registered nurse and several medical
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assistants. I'm doing chronic
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condition management via telehealth in
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five minutes. At 10 a.m.,
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I'm doing a follow-up on
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diabetes, and then I'm seeing
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a knee pain visit and
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an ADHD follow-up, and
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then we have three aspiration abortion
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appointments. That's three
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procedural abortion appointments alongside all the
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other appointments. A little bit of
0:45
everything today, which is very typical
0:47
for family medicine. In the
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doctor's office, there is a follow-up for
0:52
a patient with GI issues. So your
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labs came back and honestly are looking
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pretty good. There
0:58
was no evidence of celiac to
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explain. Then another patient comes in
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for gender-affirming care, gearing up to
1:05
start testosterone. But I think
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I mentioned that there's like kind of two extremes
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on the dosing approach. Yeah, we want to go in
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the middle. Fast track or the scenic route. We're going in
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the middle. Yeah. All right. Providing
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all sorts of care, gender-affirming care,
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and all aspects of reproductive health
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care, including abortion, are part of
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the philosophy of Dr. Arnold's clinic.
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She started her practice a few months
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after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v.
1:30
Wade. Many of the abortions
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provided here are done with medication. The
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first pill people take is Mifoprestone. So
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this is the Mifoprestone. Look at
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the box. It's six in a box. And
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so they take this here. The
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second medication is mesoprostol, which patients get
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to take home with them. And
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the staff follows up with all abortion patients
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to find out how they're doing. Hey
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there, this is Katie. I'm just calling from the doctor's
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office. I want to try again to check in with
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you about how you're feeling. Anti-abortion
2:00
rights activists oppose primary care
2:03
doctors like Dr. Arnold providing
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abortion care. Dr.
2:08
Christina Francis in OBGYN in
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Indiana, who runs the American
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Association of Pro-Life OBGYNs, says
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abortion is nothing like managing a
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chronic condition like diabetes. Chemical
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abortion drugs end the life of my fetal patients,
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so that in and of itself makes it different
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from a diabetes drug. But
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also the complications related to a diabetes
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drug are not going to require an
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expertise that's outside of the skill set
2:33
of a family medicine physician to manage.
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But Dr. Stephanie Arnold points
2:38
out the American College of
2:40
OBGYN says any clinician who
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can screen patients and provide
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or refer for follow-up care
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can safely provide medication abortions.
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As Arnold sees it, abortion has been
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separated from other kinds of care for
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political reasons, not for medical
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reasons. It's just important to
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me to fight back against that stigma. There's
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no reason for this care to be siloed.
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It's very much a part of all
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the other care that I'm giving. I don't
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feel like it's any different than my management
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of chronic pain or
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endometriosis. This is just a
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routine part of my day. Consider
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this. For decades, people seeking abortions
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had to go to specialty clinics
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like Planned Parenthood, sometimes with people
3:25
opposed to abortion protesting outside. But
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since Roe v. Wade was overturned,
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a movement to take abortion out
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of its silo and integrate it
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into everyday primary care has gained
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Consider This from NPR. NPR's
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Selena Simmons-Duffin dug into the trend
5:02
of more and more family doctors
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beginning to provide abortions. And
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she explored how abortion care got separated
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from other care in the first place.
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She takes it from here. Imagine
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a young woman makes an appointment with
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her family doctor. She has some abdominal
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pain and some other symptoms she wants
5:20
to get checked. Her doctor says, why
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don't we just run a pregnancy test
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just to be sure and it's positive.
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That's Dr. Sheila Atayi, a family doctor
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in Sacramento, California. After a
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pregnancy test comes back positive, then you
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kind of like go through that like
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options counseling with them. The options include
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continue the pregnancy and schedule a prenatal
5:39
visit or end the pregnancy and get
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an abortion. Both are available right there
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in the same clinic. For some people
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they know right away. For some people
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I've seen them week after week to
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support them through whichever route
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they choose. Atayi fought hard to
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fully integrate abortion into the clinic
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where she works. She says for
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a long time, clinic administrators weren't
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convinced. Then, Roe v. Wade was
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overturned in the Dobbs decision. I
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was like, listen, we
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need to do these things. And they were
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like, yes, you're right. And like, everyone
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was kind of like emboldened, right, like
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after Dobbs in the blue states. In
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Fort Collins, Colorado, family medicine doctor Ben
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Smith can relate. There was an
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all hands on deck mentality that
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happened after Dobbs, where there
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was, you know, an incredible kind of
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surge of interest and willingness and a
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sense of capacity. NPR heard similar
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stories from doctors in Michigan, Minnesota,
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and Pennsylvania. Some of these states
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have also loosened regulations, like getting
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rid of waiting periods. In
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Smith's primary care clinic, they don't do
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many abortions, about one or two a
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month. But he says even that small
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number can make a difference, since Colorado
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has become a destination for people traveling
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from states with abortion bans. Every
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abortion that we do in primary care
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becomes a space for a more
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nationally facing organization that can
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accommodate someone who is traveling
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from Texas, from Florida. There
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isn't a lot of data yet on
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exactly how many internal medicine or family
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medicine doctors are beginning to provide abortion
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in primary care. But there is some
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evidence that the trend is growing. A
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recent study found a surge in applications
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to programs that train primary care providers
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on abortion. Some have online resources. This
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training video shows a doctor talking with
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a patient about what plans they have
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for getting pregnant and using different kinds
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of birth control. I'm here for you
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to talk about any of the different
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options. And also,
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if you do get pregnant and you don't
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want to continue the pregnancy, I have pills
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for that too. Great. Thank
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you. Problem. Okay. So let's go
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back to talking about your diabetes.
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There are barriers for clinics, including
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stigma and administrative hurdles, like the
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FDA's rules for prescribing abortion pills,
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says Elizabeth Janiak. She's a professor
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at Harvard Medical School who co-leads
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expand one of the training programs.
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She says those barriers help explain why
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the portion of primary care doctors offering
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abortion is quite small. But one thing
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that I think is really important to
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remember is that even if we were
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to be really conservative and say 5%, there
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are so many primary care doctors in this
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country. So we're talking thousands and thousands of
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providers. The federal government estimates there are
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more than 250,000 primary care physicians in
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the U.S. That's more than six
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times the number of OBGYNs. And
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Janiak points out nearly 40% of
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U.S. counties have no OBGYNs, which
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means there are reproductive health gaps
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to fill. There have
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long been family doctors who provided abortion
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and advocated for access, but it hasn't
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caught on like this before, says Mary
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Ziegler, a law professor at UC Davis
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who's written extensively on the history of
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abortion. Back in the 50s
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and 60s, she says, abortions generally
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happened at hospitals, but not all
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hospitals offered them, often for religious
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reasons, and access across the country
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was uneven. So in the 70s,
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abortion rights groups began
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focusing on the opening of
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freestanding abortion clinics. On
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one hand, she says the clinics did
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expand access. On the other hand, they
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physically and symbolically isolated abortion from other
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health services and made them easier
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to stigmatize, made it easier for
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abortion clinics to be
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protested and made it easier to argue that
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abortion was very different from other forms of
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health care. For years, a
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key anti-abortion strategy was to target
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those clinics with regulations, known as
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TRAP laws, that mandated a certain
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width of hallways or required doctors
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to have admitting privileges at hospitals,
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for instance. Here's Ziegler.
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TRAP laws, combined with the
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rise of clinic blockades and clinic
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protesting and even violence against abortion
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doctors, led to a
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pretty precipitous decline in the number of
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physicians who were either trained to perform
9:54
abortions or willing to perform abortions.
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