For our first episode, Stacey is joined by Massey University Professor Christoph Schumacher (calling in from Heidelberg, Germany) and The Spinoff's Justin Latif to discuss the differences between equality and equity, which of the two we should be trying to achieve, and how education can help us get there. From government interventions and reshaped curriculums to kaupapa Māori educational approaches, this thoughtful kōrero suggests a range of potential solutions to one of our largest and most important societal challenges.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices