"Long time listener and first-time caller" Mandela Barnes, Lieutenant Governor of Wisconsin, joins us for a wide-ranging conversation about the impact urban development has on our communities, how FEAR MKE got him into running, and what he’s learned from being Lieutenant Governor. Bonus info, we discover that the pandemic has turned Mandela into a bird watcher and that 2020 will be his highest mileage year ever! 

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