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Hey , hey , crime Connoisseurs , I'm your
1:05
host , grace D . I hope you
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all enjoyed the bonus case this weekend and
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that everyone had a lovely Father's Day . Today's
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case is one that our US listeners
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may or may not be familiar with
1:16
, but our Aussie Crime Connoisseurs
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are sure to know exactly which case I'm
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talking about in just a few details
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. Our case today is
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taking us all the way to Australia
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For our first case down
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under . We're going to cover one of Australia's
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oldest and most shocking cold
1:34
cases , going back to 1965
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, a time when people still kept
1:39
their doors unlocked and felt safe . Tragedy
1:42
would soon strike , altering
1:44
the sense of safety . Two
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young women head to the beach with
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young siblings to spend the day . Sadly
1:52
, the two teens would head off by themselves
1:55
to never be seen again
1:57
, sparking one of the most infamous
1:59
murder mysteries in Australian history
2:02
. Who was responsible
2:04
for this tragedy ? With
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the case remaining unsolved for nearly
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six decades , we're left
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with questions about what really happened
2:13
on that fateful day in 1965
2:16
. This is the case of
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Mary Ann Schmidt and Christine
2:21
Sherrick , the Wanda Beach
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Murders . Elizabeth
2:59
and Helmut Schmidt had moved to Australia
3:02
from Germany in 1958
3:04
with their children Helmut Jr
3:06
, marianne , hans
3:09
, peter , trixie
3:11
, norbert and
3:13
another on the way . After
3:16
arriving in Australia , the Schmidt
3:18
family lived in a migrant hostel
3:20
in Unadera , new
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South Wales , before settling
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in Tamora In 1963
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, helmut moved the family
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to West Ryde , a suburb
3:33
of Sydney , after being diagnosed
3:35
with Hodgkin's lymphoma . Helmut
3:39
passed away the following year , leaving
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Elizabeth to care for the seven children
3:43
alone . After
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moving to West Ryde , marianne
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developed a close friendship with Christine
3:51
Sherrick , a young girl the same
3:53
age as her who lived next door with
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her grandparents , jim and Jeanette
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Tague . Six
3:59
months after her husband's passing , elizabeth
4:02
herself was sick in the hospital , leaving
4:05
Marianne and Helmut Jr in
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charge of the rest of the kids . On
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Saturday , january 9th , mary
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Ann and Christine asked Elizabeth
4:16
, who was still in the hospital , if
4:18
they could take the younger children to
4:20
Cronulla the next day , and
4:22
were given permission . However
4:24
, rain prevented them from making the trip
4:26
. Given permission , however , rain prevented them from making the trip . On January
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11 , 1965 , the
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two teenage girls set off for
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a day at the beach with the kids . Around
4:36
8 am , marianne , christine
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and the kiddos headed out with their
4:46
bags and a picnic . They went
4:49
down the coast to Cronulla by train . Around two
4:51
hours away , holmett
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Jr and Hans opted out of going to the beach and instead stayed home to clean . The girls arrived
4:56
at Cronulla with Peter , trixie
4:58
, wolfgang and Norbert , but
5:00
the beach was closed because of strong winds
5:03
. The
5:09
group then walked down to the southern end of the beach and took shelter among the rocks . Eight-year-old
5:11
Wolfgang still wanted to swim
5:13
, so Marianne went with him to
5:15
the shallow part of the surf , away from
5:17
the rocks . After
5:20
they returned to the group , they had a picnic
5:22
At some point . During this
5:24
time , christine left the others and
5:26
went off by herself . When
5:29
Christine returned to the group , they decided
5:31
to go for a walk into the sandhills behind
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Wanda Beach . Before
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walking into the dunes , the girls
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hid their bags on the beach to lighten
5:41
their load . Soon the
5:43
wind was too strong . Soon the wind was too strong
5:45
, and around 1 pm the group reached
5:47
a point around 400
5:49
meters or 430
5:52
yards , beyond the Wanda
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Surf Club . They
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stopped to take shelter behind a sandhill . As the younger
6:03
children complained about the conditions , mary
6:09
Ann and Christine decided that they would go back to get their
6:11
bags before going home . Marianne
6:13
told her younger siblings that she and Christine would return to the rocky area at the south end of
6:15
the beach where they had hidden their bags , then return
6:18
to get the children and head home . However
6:21
, the girls continued into the sand
6:23
hills . When Peter noticed
6:26
, he called out to them that they
6:28
were going the wrong way , but they
6:30
just laughed at him and walked on . It
6:33
would be the last time the two friends
6:35
were seen . Four
6:37
hours went by but they didn't
6:40
return . By 5 pm
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Peter decided that they should go home
6:44
without Christine and Marianne . The
6:47
kids found the bags untouched
6:49
on the beach and caught the last train
6:52
arriving home around 8 pm
6:54
. Confused
6:56
and concerned , hans went to see
6:58
his mother in the hospital . In
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an article with thatslifecomau
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, hans told his mom quote
7:06
the girls didn't come back
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from the beach end quote . He
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said quote . A huge sadness
7:14
came over her . They're gone
7:16
, she cried . End quote . Marianne
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and Christine were reported missing at
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8.30 pm by Christine's grandmother
7:24
. The
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next morning , on Tuesday , january
7:28
12th , peter Smith took
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his young nephews for a walk through
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the Wanda Beach Sandhills . Some
7:36
distance north of the Wanda Surf Club
7:38
, he discovered what appeared to be a
7:40
store mannequin buried face
7:42
down in the sand . It
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wasn't until he brushed away the sand from the head that he realized it was a body . He scooped
7:51
up his nephews and ran to the nearest surf
7:54
club where the police were called . Police
7:57
arrived and found the body of Mary
8:00
Ann Schmidt . When
8:02
members of the New South Wales Police
8:05
arrived , they encountered the horrific
8:07
scene . While investigating
8:10
, someone noticed a foot belonging
8:12
to a second body . It
8:14
was then discovered that Christine Sherrick
8:17
had been buried with Marianne . When
8:21
the murder scene was examined , marianne
8:23
was found lying on her right side
8:26
with her left leg bent . Christine
8:29
was face down , her head against
8:31
the sole of her friend's left foot . Both
8:35
of them had scratch marks on their faces
8:38
From a nearly
8:40
40-yard-long bloody drag mark
8:42
in the sand leading to the scene . Police
8:45
determined that Christine had fled
8:47
, possibly while Marianne was
8:49
dying , only to have been caught
8:51
incapacitated and
8:54
dragged back to the body of her friend . The
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bodies were partially clothed and
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the girls were brutally attacked , and
9:02
at the time it was believed they were sexually
9:04
assaulted . Bloodstains
9:07
on nearby scrub and recently
9:09
made car tracks were discovered
9:11
leading from where the bodies were found
9:14
. The bodies were
9:16
moved to the Sutherland District Hospital
9:18
, where a relative later identified
9:20
them . Both
9:23
girls had been viciously attacked
9:25
, beaten , stabbed multiple
9:27
times and left exposed to
9:29
the elements . The
9:31
exact time of death was not determined
9:34
, but it was believed that they were
9:36
killed shortly after leaving the younger
9:38
children . An
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intensive search was launched to find
9:45
the murder weapons a long
9:47
knife and some sort of blunt
9:49
instrument but they were never found
9:51
. Tons
9:53
of sand from around the murder scene
9:55
were sifted through and various
9:57
items were found , including
9:59
a blood-stained knife blade , but
10:02
police were unable to link it to
10:04
the murders Trigger
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warning the topic of sexual assault
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. Is it to the murders Trigger warning ? The topic
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of sexual assault is about to be
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covered . Christine's skull had been fractured
10:15
by a blow to the back of the head and
10:22
she had been stabbed six times . Marianne's
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throat had been deeply slashed and she had been stabbed
10:26
14 times
10:28
, had been deeply
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slashed and she had been stabbed 14 times . Marianne's bathing suit
10:33
had been cut and pulled up over her breasts and the killer attempted to rape
10:35
Marianne and Christine . Semen
10:38
was found on both girls . However
10:41
, the autopsy showed that their
10:43
hymens were intact . Marianne's
10:47
brother , hans , had viewed photos
10:49
of the body and said , quote she'd
10:51
been stabbed 25 to
10:54
30 times . She'd
10:56
almost been decapitated because
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her throat had been cut so viciously
11:00
. At her funeral , marianne
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was dressed in a high neck dress , but
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you could still see the slash marks above
11:07
the collar . That's how vicious
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it was . End quote . Marianne
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and Christine's funerals were held
11:16
on January 20 , 1965
11:19
. During
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Christine's absence , one of Marianne's
11:24
little brothers , wolfgang , noticed
11:26
a teenage boy hunting crabs . Later
11:30
he claimed to have seen the same boy
11:32
two more times , once
11:34
in the company of the girls and
11:37
again sometime much later , but
11:39
walking alone . There
11:41
has been doubt about his description of
11:44
this person , as Wolfgang's testimony
11:46
over time variously suggested
11:49
that he had had a homemade
11:51
spear gun , a fishing knife
11:53
or both . The
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last official sighting of the girls was
11:58
around 12.45 pm by
12:00
local fireman Dennis Dostein
12:03
, who was walking in the area with
12:05
his son and saw the girls walking
12:07
about 730 meters
12:09
north of the surf club . Dostin
12:13
told police they seemed to be hurrying
12:15
and one of the girls often looked
12:18
behind her as if they were
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being followed . He
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did not see anybody else , though
12:24
A number of people
12:26
were seen in the area who had
12:28
never been identified and never
12:30
came forward . The
12:34
autopsy for Christine found
12:36
a blood alcohol content of
12:38
0.015 , but
12:41
alcohol was not found . In Marianne's
12:43
autopsy . It
12:46
was also discovered that Christine
12:48
had consumed food cabbage
12:50
and celery , possibly a
12:52
Chico roll that differed
12:54
from the rest of the group . It
12:57
is suspected that this occurred while
12:59
she was alone . Police
13:02
launched one of the largest manhunts
13:05
in Australian history , questioning
13:07
numerous individuals and sifting
13:09
through countless leads . Witnesses
13:12
reported seeing the girls walking
13:14
with a man in his mid-20s , though
13:17
descriptions varied . Another
13:19
witness saw a man running from the dunes
13:22
around the estimated time of the murders
13:24
. The
14:57
estimated time of the murders In February 1965
15:00
, a 10,000 pound reward was set and later increased to 20,000 pounds
15:02
. Several suspects emerged over the years , but no
15:04
charges were ever filed . One
15:07
year later , on January 26
15:09
, 1966 , the
15:12
three Beaumont siblings , jane
15:14
, arna and Grant
15:16
, disappeared from Glen
15:18
Egg Beach in Adelaide . Both
15:22
cases captured the attention of
15:24
the nation , which became consumed
15:27
by the search for their assailants . Both
15:30
cases remain unsolved to
15:32
this day . Initially
15:35
, police encountered interest in both
15:37
cases , using media appearances
15:40
to call for information from
15:42
the public . Detective
15:44
Inspector Haynes , who led the investigation
15:47
into the Wanda Beach murders , issued
15:50
such an appeal in his interview with
15:52
Ian Ross on National Network
15:55
News in January 1965
15:58
.
16:00
We have received information from possibly
16:03
a thousand people . We
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have interviewed between five and
16:07
six hundred people personally and
16:09
obtained particulars five
16:13
and six hundred people personally and obtained particulars In this state as well as in other
16:15
states . Many suspects who could be considered to have
16:17
committed this crime have
16:19
been interviewed and their movements checked
16:21
.
16:23
What would you consider your most important lead
16:25
in the investigation so far ?
16:27
The most important and possibly
16:29
the outstanding thing is the description
16:32
of the suspect who
16:34
was last seen in
16:37
the company of the girls whilst they were
16:39
still alive . That is Wolfgang
16:41
Smith , the
16:44
brother of one of the deceased
16:46
girls . He describes a
16:48
lad about 16 years of age
16:50
whom he saw disappearing in
16:53
the sand dunes with his sister
16:55
and the other girl about
16:57
1.30 on the fateful day .
17:00
Now , even though Wolfgang is a very young boy he's
17:02
only seven years old you still feel that
17:04
you could place a fair amount of importance on
17:06
what he's told you .
17:08
Yes , when we first
17:10
received his testimony , being so
17:12
young , we were loathe to
17:14
accept it , but we have
17:16
checked and rechecked his information
17:18
During the inquiry
17:21
. Every piece of information we have
17:23
received has tended to confirm
17:25
and corroborate his story and
17:28
we now feel that he can be relied
17:30
upon and his testimony is
17:33
acceptable .
17:35
Well now , sir , we might be able to perhaps move down
17:37
to the Wonder Beach scene and take up the
17:39
story there . Yes , we will . Detective
17:47
Inspector Haynes , during
17:50
your investigations , have you been quite
17:52
happy with the support the public has given you
17:54
in coming forward with information ?
17:56
We have been amazed and overwhelmed at the
17:58
response the public have made . Every
18:01
piece of information , however seemingly
18:03
unimportant , has been investigated
18:07
. Many suspects as a result of
18:09
that have been questioned and we
18:11
feel that by
18:13
the continued response of the people
18:15
we will be able to put our finger on
18:17
the man who has committed this crime .
18:19
Do you think that there are still some people who may
18:21
have been here on the beach or who may otherwise
18:24
be able to help , who have not yet come forward ?
18:26
I feel very definitely only
18:29
as late as yesterday . We
18:31
have people coming who
18:33
have previously known something
18:35
but have not thought it important by
18:37
reason of the publicity and the interest
18:40
that has been created . They have come forward
18:42
and we have received much information
18:44
which will help us to form
18:48
a pattern of the people who are on the beach
18:50
and what may have happened on that fateful day
18:52
.
18:53
Public interest in these cases was
18:56
often so intense that it became
18:58
the news . In February
19:00
1966 , nine
19:02
News reported on the overwhelming
19:05
turnout of volunteers to
19:07
assist police in combing the beach
19:09
for clues to help find the Beaumont
19:11
children . However
19:13
, the Wanda Beach and Beaumont cases
19:16
, like several other equally
19:18
notorious crimes committed during the 60s
19:20
, are cited as the moment
19:23
when Australia lost its innocence
19:25
. In
19:27
April 1966 , the
19:30
coroner handed down his report . By
19:33
then , police had interviewed roughly 7,000
19:36
people , making it the most
19:38
extensive investigation in Australian
19:40
history . Despite this
19:43
, the murders quickly became
19:45
a cold case and none
19:47
of the three main suspects fit
19:49
the description of the surfer youth
19:51
who has never been identified
19:54
. In
19:56
March 1967
19:58
, police believed they were
20:00
close to arresting a man in connection
20:02
with the murders of Marianne and
20:04
Christine and the attacks on
20:06
several women at Wanda Beach . On
20:09
several women at Wanda Beach , fresh information
20:11
was given to them by a woman named
20:14
Brenda Galvin who
20:21
was attacked on March 16th at the beach , and by the man who ran
20:23
to her assistance , which helped to narrow the search for the killer . Detectives
20:26
said that they had been overwhelmed
20:28
by telephone calls from people
20:31
claiming to know or have seen
20:33
the killer , and each
20:35
one was being investigated . A
20:38
massive police hunt was underway
20:40
for an old white car and
20:43
the man seen driving away in it
20:45
after the latest beach attack
20:47
beach
20:54
attack . Both their descriptions fit the sketch made by police using details
20:56
obtained from other women who had been attacked
20:58
in the beach area . Police were confident that the man
21:01
was also the killer of Christine
21:03
Sherrick and Marianne Schmidt . In 1981
21:07
, the Wanda Beach murders were again
21:10
the subject of media interest
21:12
when reporter Harry Potter
21:14
yes , my fellow Potterheads
21:16
, that is his real name , but
21:19
not our beloved Harry Potter's
21:33
broadcast did not present any new evidence , but his delivery style was indicative of recent
21:35
developments in news broadcasting , particularly
21:37
in crime reporting . Compared
21:40
to Ian Ross , potter frequently
21:42
uses subjective , even sensational
21:45
, language . Marianne
21:47
and Christine were described as quote
21:49
pretty unpopular end quote , and
21:52
Wanda Beach Sand Dunes as
21:55
a quote playground for deviants
21:57
end quote . The
21:59
report also began by warning
22:02
young women to quote be on
22:04
their guard end quote . In
22:07
the interview we learned that during
22:09
the investigation , police interviewed
22:12
more than 16,000 people
22:14
up to this point , including roughly
22:16
5,000 suspects . It's
22:27
also revealed that at least five of the 5,000 suspects admitted to the murders of Marianne
22:29
and Christine . However , police were able to quickly determine
22:32
those to be false confessions
22:34
due to the lack of information
22:36
they were able to provide that
22:38
only the real killer and the police
22:40
knew to be true . The
22:44
case was reopened in 2000
22:46
, and in February 2012
22:48
, the New South Wales Police
22:51
Forces Cold Case Unit announced
22:53
that a weak male DNA
22:55
sample had been extracted
22:58
from a pair of white shorts worn
23:00
by Christine . While
23:03
admitting that current technology was
23:05
unable to provide more information
23:07
, police were confident that future
23:10
advances would offer more
23:12
support . Despite
23:15
periodic reviews and advances
23:17
in forensic science , the case
23:19
remains unsolved . In
23:21
2012 , police announced
23:24
that they were re-examining DNA
23:26
evidence in hopes of finding new
23:28
leads . In July
23:30
2014 , police
23:32
said that a semen sample
23:34
taken from Marianne's body had
23:37
been lost and could not be located
23:39
, despite an extensive search
23:41
. Regardless
23:44
of exhaustive efforts , the case
23:47
faced significant obstacles . The
23:49
crime scene was contaminated by
23:52
the elements and by people who
23:54
showed up before it was secured . Conflicting
23:57
witness testimonies and limited
23:59
forensic technology at the time
24:01
also hindered the investigation
24:04
. Recent
24:06
advances in DNA technology
24:08
have given investigators new
24:10
tools to re-examine the evidence , but
24:13
the case remains unsolved . Investigators
24:17
have three men they believe
24:19
could all be the man responsible
24:21
for the murders of Christine and
24:23
Marianne . Former
24:26
detective Sec Johnson , who
24:28
had investigated the murders , was
24:31
given a painting in 1975
24:33
by Alan Bassett . Bassett
24:36
had been imprisoned for the brutal rape
24:38
and murder of Carolyn Orfin
24:40
in Wollongong on
24:42
June 11 , 1966
24:45
. Bassett's painting
24:47
, titled A Bloody , awful Thing
24:49
, showed an abstract landscape
24:52
. Johnson believed
24:54
the painting showed blood trails , a
24:56
broken knife blade and
24:58
the body of a victim and became
25:00
convinced that Bassett was the Wanda
25:03
Beach killer . He
25:05
also became convinced that the painting showed
25:07
a scene from the murders that only
25:09
the killer would know , as well
25:11
as clues to the also unsolved
25:14
murders of Wilhelmina Kruger
25:16
and Anna Dallin-Koa
25:18
. Despite the
25:20
doubt and skepticism of other detectives
25:23
, johnson wrote a book about
25:25
the case . However , before
25:28
it could be published he was killed
25:30
in an accident . While
25:32
retaining professional respect for Johnson
25:35
, other detectives expressed
25:37
that he was wrong in his belief . However
25:40
, one person Johnson convinced
25:42
was Bill Jenkins , a
25:44
crime reporter for Daily Mirror , who
25:47
repeated Johnson's claims in
25:49
his ghost-written memoirs as
25:51
crime goes by . In
25:54
a chapter devoted to the Wanda Beach
25:56
murders , most of which is essentially
25:58
a repeat of what he had written in
26:00
his earlier book , crime Reporter Jenkins
26:03
mentions Bassett and his painting
26:05
. Bassett
26:07
, who had been released from prison in 1995
26:11
, started proceedings for defamation
26:13
in the Supreme Court of New
26:15
South Wales . The publisher
26:18
pleaded defenses of justification
26:20
, meaning Bassett's being
26:22
a convicted murderer , and
26:24
the proceedings never went further . Since
26:28
his release , bassett has voluntarily
26:30
given a DNA sample to clear his
26:32
name , but whether or not he
26:34
has been eliminated as a suspect in
26:36
the Wanda Beach murders has yet to
26:39
be publicized . A
26:41
second suspect is a serial
26:43
killer , christopher Wilder . Two
26:46
years before the murders , wilder
26:49
had been convicted of a gang rape on
26:51
a Sydney beach , which led police
26:53
to include him as a suspect . Wilder
26:57
had immigrated to the United States in
26:59
1969 . However
27:01
, while visiting his parents in Australia in
27:03
1982 , he
27:05
was charged with sexual offenses
27:07
against two 15-year-old
27:10
girls whom he had forced to
27:12
pose nude . Wilder
27:14
fled back to the US and
27:16
in the first half of 1984
27:19
, he committed eight murders
27:21
and attempted several more . Versions
27:25
of what happened next vary , but
27:27
on April 13 , 1984
27:30
, state troopers in New Hampshire
27:32
spotted Wilder's car at
27:34
a service station and confronted him
27:36
. It's said
27:38
that one of the troopers grabbed Wilder
27:40
from behind and in the scuffle , wilder's
27:43
weapon discharged , firing
27:45
a bullet that passed through his body
27:47
and into that of the trooper
27:49
, seriously injuring them both . It's
27:53
then said that Wilder fired another
27:55
bullet into his own chest , ending
27:57
his life and his rampage of murder
28:00
across America . The
28:02
trooper recovered and eventually returned
28:04
to his post . A
28:06
third suspect not well publicized
28:09
until 1998 , is
28:11
Derek Percy , who had been
28:13
in prison since 1969
28:15
for the murder of a child on a
28:17
beach in Victoria . Percy
28:20
was considered too dangerous to be
28:23
released and the prime suspect
28:25
for several other murders of children
28:27
in Melbourne and Sydney . Percy
28:31
died in 2013 from
28:33
cancer . He was considered
28:35
a leading suspect in the Wanda Beach
28:37
murders by police . While
28:40
Percy can be linked to Cronulla on
28:43
the date of the murders , no
28:45
other links have been found . It
28:48
was hoped that he would make confessions on
28:50
his deathbed , but sadly those never
28:52
came . Elizabeth
28:55
Schmidt died from stomach cancer
28:57
in 2009 , but she always
28:59
held out hope that her daughter's killer
29:02
would be found . Despite
29:05
the time that has passed , hans
29:07
Schmidt still believes the person who
29:09
killed Marianne and Christine can be
29:11
found and , if still alive
29:13
, be punished . He
29:16
believes more than one person knows
29:18
what happened to the girls and if
29:20
pictures of their injuries were
29:22
finally released , those people
29:24
may be compelled to come forward with
29:26
information , hans
29:29
told the Sydney Morning Herald . Quote
29:32
I believe now , as
29:34
I always have , that if the public
29:37
was shown pictures of the girls and
29:39
the horrific way they were killed , then
29:41
this case might be solved . End
29:44
quote . The
29:47
Wanda Beach murders continue
29:49
to resonate in Australia's cultural
29:52
memory , symbolizing the terror
29:54
and tragedy of unsolved crimes
29:56
. The case has been the subject
29:59
of numerous books , documentaries
30:01
and media investigations , reflecting
30:04
society's enduring fascination
30:06
and the ongoing quest for justice
30:09
for Marianne Schmidt and Christine
30:11
Sherrick . The
30:13
Wanda Beach murders remain one of
30:15
Australia's most perplexing and
30:17
tragic unsolved cases . Despite
30:20
extensive investigations and
30:22
numerous suspects , the brutal
30:25
killings of Marianne Schmidt and
30:27
Christine Sherrick continue to
30:29
haunt the nation . Advances
30:33
in forensic technology offer
30:35
some hope for resolution , but
30:37
until then , the mystery of
30:39
Wanda Beach remains , reminding
30:42
us of the fragility of life and
30:44
the enduring quest of justice . And
30:51
the enduring quest of justice . The Wanda Beach murders are a chilling reminder , the dark mysteries
30:53
that sometimes elude resolution . While
30:57
advancements in forensic science offer
30:59
hope , the answers to what happened
31:01
to Marianne Schmidt and Christine
31:03
Sherrick on that day in 1965
31:06
remain elusive . Marianne
31:10
and Christine's memories live on , urging
31:16
us to seek justice and closure for the families . Will this case ever
31:18
be solved or will it remain
31:20
shrouded in darkness forever ? Only
31:24
time will tell , and that's
31:26
the case of Marianne Schmidt
31:28
and Christine Sherrick , also
31:31
known as the Wanda Beach Murders . Thank
31:34
you for joining me . If you enjoyed
31:37
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31:54
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31:56
, keep it classy , connoisseurs , and
31:58
I'll catch you on the next case . Thank
32:25
you , you .
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