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Stories with Nancy Grace. A
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gorgeous young missing mom of
2:27
four's, Chevy Avalanche,
2:30
just found on a remote and
2:32
hilly county road. Where is Nikki?
2:35
I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime
2:37
Stories. Thank you for being with
2:39
us. A California
2:41
mom of four missing. Her
2:44
truck found abandoned in a
2:46
different county. Where is Nikki
2:48
Chang's Sally McCain? How
2:51
does a gorgeous young
2:53
mom like Nikki seemingly vanish
2:55
into thin air? Why
2:57
is her Chevy Avalanche found
3:00
along a hilly and remote
3:02
county road there in Shasta
3:04
County? Now,
3:07
if she were gone and her
3:09
Avalanche was also gone, that
3:12
would make more sense than her
3:14
being separated from her car,
3:16
from her truck, a Chevy Avalanche. That's
3:19
not making sense. And why would
3:21
it be parked left out in
3:23
the middle of nowhere? Why
3:26
would she have been there? She
3:28
wouldn't have been. Even
3:31
if she had been there for
3:33
some reason to or fro in
3:35
transit, why would she get out
3:37
of her Chevy Avalanche and what,
3:40
disappear? Out into
3:42
the hills? That did not happen.
3:45
Where is Nikki? And this is not
3:47
just about Nikki Chang, as her family
3:49
calls her. This is
3:51
about her four children as well.
3:54
One as young as seven years
3:56
old. What
3:59
about them? Who's taking care of them?
4:01
Who's explaining, yeah mommy's not home
4:04
again tonight, mommy's not home again
4:06
tonight. But hey, here's a Chevy
4:08
Avalanche. Again, this
4:10
is Crime Stories. I'm Nancy Grayson. I want to thank
4:12
you for being with us. I'm
4:15
very concerned about the
4:17
slow-mo, the slow
4:19
motion search for Nikki
4:22
because we all know
4:24
that hours count when
4:27
someone goes missing. Look at
4:29
her. Where is she?
4:33
If you have information
4:35
on missing Nikki, tip
4:38
line 530-245-6540, repeat, 530-245-6540.
4:48
Joining me, an All-Star panel, and I
4:50
want to reiterate, there was a $10,000
4:52
reward for information leading
4:56
to Nikki's whereabouts. $10,000,
4:59
as I said, an All-Star panel to
5:03
make sense of what we know right now, including
5:05
her two lookalike
5:07
sisters, the spitting image of Nikki.
5:09
But first, listen to this. Nikki
5:12
Salia McCain sends a text message
5:14
to her sister just after midnight
5:16
on May 18th, saying
5:18
she's driving Tyler McCain's mother's vehicle back to
5:20
his mother's home near the Wind River Casino.
5:22
When Nikki doesn't respond to texts from her
5:24
family later that morning at 7 a.m. and
5:26
8 a.m., the family is
5:29
concerned. The family immediately begins looking for
5:31
Nikki and her Chevrolet Avalanche truck. Nikki
5:33
has four children and would never have
5:35
left them without notice, and an official
5:37
missing person report is filed with Shasta
5:40
County. Well, the family wasted no time
5:42
in reporting her missing. That's the bright
5:44
spot so far. Please
5:46
join us in our search for
5:48
Nikki Chain Salia McCain.
5:50
I want to first go out
5:53
to Nikki's sisters joining us, Chloe
5:55
and Kay. First to
5:57
Chloe. Chloe, tell me about.
18:00
Did she get her eye? If so, with who?
18:03
Joining me an all-star pedal to make sense of
18:05
what we know right now. For those of you
18:07
joining us, there is a $10,000 reward for information that
18:09
leads to
18:12
the location of Nikki
18:14
Chain Sely McCain, known
18:17
as Nikki, her family calls her
18:19
Nikki Chain. To
18:21
Dave Matt, crimeonline.com investigative reporter,
18:23
I understand that her Chevy
18:25
Avalanche was found in this
18:27
hilly terrain. What I don't
18:29
get is how we go
18:31
from her being in her mom-in-laws,
18:34
white Tahoe, how did
18:36
she go from that to
18:38
her Chevy being in a
18:40
completely different area? Control them
18:42
if I could see that
18:44
map again. It's completely way
18:47
away from any radius where
18:50
Nikki would have been traveling.
18:52
Look where her avalanche was
18:54
located as it relates to
18:57
her home. And
19:00
the reason we've got the Wind River
19:02
Resort Casino up there is because that's
19:04
where the mother-in-law lives. So that's
19:07
not in route, Dave Matt. Dave, what
19:09
can you tell me about where this
19:12
vehicle is located? And then I'm going
19:14
to circle back on how critical it
19:16
is to this investigation that we've lost
19:19
eight days. Go ahead. All
19:21
right. The distance is about
19:23
45 miles from the wind casino
19:26
or the wind, yeah, from where
19:28
the casino is to where the
19:30
vehicle was actually found. You
19:32
mentioned a rugged kind of hilly terrain.
19:34
Well, it was actually a
19:36
bridge area, like an overpass with an
19:38
off ramp. And my understanding is that
19:41
the vehicle was actually pulled around the
19:43
off ramp and underneath, like it was
19:45
being stashed a little bit. See, there
19:48
you've got the one place
19:50
that could actually be considered maybe a bridge,
19:52
very rural terrain, 45 minutes
19:54
from, or 45 miles, rather, from the casino.
19:57
And all we know is that she took...
32:00
extending now onto tribal land. The Wind
32:02
River Casino granted permission for family, friends,
32:04
and concerned citizens to come together on
32:06
two days to search the grounds and
32:09
by plane. Chloe Salie, Nikki's sister, tells
32:11
local news reporters that the area is
32:13
close to where McCain was last seen
32:15
or heard from. Other parts
32:18
of tribal grounds remain private due
32:20
to tribal sovereignty. Access has
32:22
to be requested and granted before an area
32:25
can be searched. Oh dear Lord in heaven,
32:27
you know how many times I've run up
32:29
against this when I would be
32:33
told or get credible information
32:36
there had been a murder, that
32:38
there was an ongoing child molestation,
32:40
ongoing domestic violence that
32:43
would result in a
32:45
homicide on tribal
32:47
territory. I can't just
32:49
run in there with a search warrant, just
32:52
bust up in the county issue Crown Victoria.
32:54
That is not going to happen. It doesn't
32:57
work that way. Dave
33:00
Matt, what can you tell me? I
33:02
mean it took how long before
33:05
the Rancheria could
33:07
be searched? It did take a number
33:09
of days and the Rancheria actually agreed
33:11
to allow them to search in an
33:13
area near the casino, near the
33:16
area where she was last seen. They
33:18
did not allow for a further investigation.
33:20
They didn't go further onto the property
33:22
but the area right around the casino.
33:24
Dave Matt, please I got to dissect
33:26
what you're saying. Hold on. All right.
33:28
So they, who is
33:30
they, say searchers can come
33:33
on but only around this
33:35
limited area? Like what?
33:37
Yes. You think whoever took
33:40
Nikki is gonna put her in
33:42
with a Christmas bow on a
33:44
silver platter right there at the
33:46
casino doorstep? They would
33:49
not allow searchers to go beyond a
33:51
certain area. Is that what you said?
33:53
Exactly what I'm saying. Okay pick it
33:55
up right there please. So they allowed
33:57
for the search to take place but
34:00
only in a very limited area. And
34:03
it was right there by the casino
34:05
where they believe she might have last
34:07
been. And that was it. Now, the
34:10
Rancheria actually is contributing to
34:12
the reward money. They've
34:14
been participating in this again, but it's
34:17
so limited, Nick. They haven't just said,
34:19
come on in and look. They've said,
34:21
you can look right here. But other
34:23
areas sovereign can't have it. Brian Fiskibens,
34:25
that is not helping me. Yes, so
34:28
the tribe is limiting the search areas
34:30
that these search parties can go on.
34:33
You know, they have put up a billboard. They have
34:35
offered a $10,000 reward. These
34:39
public shows of support have
34:42
been made. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Brian,
34:44
I appreciate the money. But
34:46
I would rather have a full-on search
34:49
with scent dogs,
34:52
bloodhounds, cadaver dogs,
34:54
shoulder-to-shoulder cadets, volunteers
34:57
Chloe Kay, everybody searching as far
34:59
as they can. Not, hey, don't
35:02
get past the shadow of this
35:04
casino. Absolutely. That is not helping
35:06
me, Fiskibens. What is their problem?
35:09
I don't care if they hear
35:11
me. Yeah, I- What's
35:13
the problem? Why wouldn't they let the
35:16
searchers search beyond that? I couldn't agree
35:18
more, Nancy. I mean, these public shows
35:20
of support mean nothing when you don't
35:22
allow the search parties
35:24
to completely search the tribal lands
35:28
where Nikki was last known
35:30
to be. So,
35:32
you know, they have to jump
35:35
in here and actually open
35:37
up access to these search parties.
35:40
Family members have released their own missing
35:42
persons flyer with hopes of finding Nikki
35:45
Chang Sayle McCain. McCain is described by
35:47
officials as 411 and
35:49
weighing 110 pounds. She
35:51
has brown hair and brown eyes.
35:53
Relatives say she has a tattoo
35:55
of roses inside a geometric shape
35:58
on her forearm. Family
36:00
and friends plead for tips as
36:02
the search continues for Nikki Chang's
36:05
Saley McCain, missing for
36:07
over a month. And
36:09
family and friends' efforts to find
36:11
Nikki, the biggest missing
36:13
person flyer you will ever see
36:16
has gone up as a billboard
36:18
listen. It's the biggest missing person
36:20
flyer you'll see. A
36:22
billboard has gone up along North Interstate
36:25
5 in Anderson near Ball's Ferry Road
36:27
exit that says, Help Find Nikki Chang
36:29
Saley McCain. Besides photos of
36:31
Saley McCain, the phone numbers for
36:33
NorCal Alliance for the Missing and
36:35
Shasta County Sheriff's Office are provided.
36:38
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supposed to pick her up from her mother-in-laws
46:02
that night. Nikki said it would be one
46:04
of the roommates that lived with him at
46:06
the house. Okay. All right. At least I
46:08
know that much. And I'm sure that roommate
46:10
has already been questioned. Now
46:12
let me understand something. Ted
46:15
DeBias joining us, the
46:17
former US attorney, former
46:20
assistant US attorney in DC and
46:22
author of No Body Homicide Cases.
46:25
Did you hear this? I think this is
46:27
really important, Ted. That Nikki
46:30
is the state's only witness
46:34
and that aggravated assault
46:36
case. Did you
46:39
hear that? And now it's time for
46:41
the case. And the judge
46:43
who was judge Daniel Flynn, at
46:45
least decided to continue
46:47
further notice, delay
46:50
the hearing until July
46:53
five. That's about to happen to
46:55
give the prosecution time to find
46:57
Nikki or evidence in the
47:00
case. Now I'm not coming at this from
47:02
a legal angle because you and I both
47:04
know we could get an excited utterances. We
47:06
could get what she said to cops. We
47:09
could get a lot of her hearsay
47:11
comments in as evidence, but that's not
47:13
going to really fly if there's a
47:15
jury. So the significance of the timing,
47:17
Ted, jump in. So Nancy, it is
47:20
very important because what you often see
47:22
in No Body Homicide Cases, which of
47:24
course we all hope this is not,
47:26
but you often see what's called a
47:28
triggering event. And a court case
47:31
is a classic triggering event. And you recall
47:33
here, there was a court hearing on May
47:35
7th where the
47:37
case was going to be going forward.
47:39
Now we have less than two weeks
47:42
later. Of course, Nikki is missing. That
47:44
to me is very important. Over 50
47:47
percent of No Body
47:49
Murder cases involve domestic relationships. It
47:51
can be husband, wife, can be
47:53
boyfriend, girlfriend. It is very common.
47:56
All of the things we're seeing
47:58
here are very common. and
48:00
no body murder cases, unfortunately. And
48:02
as you correctly pointed out, if
48:05
Nikki cannot testify at that trial for
48:07
whatever reason, the charges are going to
48:09
be dropped from the little that
48:12
we know about the case, it seems
48:14
as if, and I think the DA
48:17
has already mentioned this, the case cannot
48:19
go forward. And that case, Nancy, is
48:21
even in the realm of domestic violence
48:24
strikes me as a very serious, significant
48:26
case. And what especially strikes me and
48:28
is concerning is what you've already
48:30
pointed out, the taping of the
48:33
hands, the taping of the legs,
48:35
the tape over the mouth. All
48:37
of that is not something you
48:39
typically see in a domestic violence
48:42
case. Those are very concerning actions,
48:44
allegedly, by Tyler McCain
48:46
against his wife, Nikki. I
48:48
know nobody wants to hear this,
48:50
Ted, Tobias, but that
48:52
attack on Nikki was like
48:55
a dry run. I agree, yes. For
48:58
murder. When do you tie someone's hands,
49:00
their feet, their mouth? You torture them,
49:03
pour cold water on them, turn them
49:05
over on their stomach to make it
49:07
even more difficult to talk. And
49:10
keeping in mind that this
49:12
strong likelihood, all the children
49:14
were at home when this
49:16
happened. To Chloe
49:18
and Kate, number one, our prayers
49:21
are going up tonight, as you
49:23
must know. Number two, it
49:26
disturbs me that the family and friends
49:28
have had to do so much. I
49:30
haven't heard about this case. I haven't
49:33
read about it. You know how I
49:35
found out about it. One
49:37
of you wrote me on Twitter. One
49:39
of you tweeted me. That's how
49:42
I found out Nikki was
49:44
missing. Where is
49:47
the support for Nikki?
49:50
Please hear us. I
49:53
know you don't know Nikki. I know
49:55
you've never met her, but
49:58
there are four children. young
50:00
as seven years old, hanging in on
50:02
their stomach to make it even more
50:04
difficult to talk. And keeping
50:07
in mind that this strong
50:09
likelihood all the children were
50:11
at home when this happened.
50:14
To Chloe and Kate, number one,
50:17
our prayers are going up tonight,
50:19
as you must know. Number two,
50:23
it disturbs me that the family and
50:25
friends have had to do so much.
50:27
I haven't heard about this case. I
50:29
haven't read about it. You know how
50:31
I found out about it. One
50:33
of you wrote me on Twitter. One
50:36
of you tweeted me. That's how
50:38
I found out Nikki was
50:41
missing. Where is
50:44
the support for Nikki?
50:46
Please hear us. I
50:49
know you don't know Nikki. I know
50:51
you've never met her, but
50:54
there are four children as
50:57
young as seven years old
50:59
hanging in the balance. There
51:01
is a ten thousand dollar reward.
51:04
Tip line 530-245-6135. If
51:09
she's still alive, she
51:11
can be found. But we
51:13
need help. The family needs
51:16
help. Her children need help. 530-245-6135.
51:24
I want to thank all of our guests for being with
51:26
us, for you joining
51:28
us, but especially
51:30
to the sisters, Chloe and
51:33
Kate, leading the
51:35
search for their sister, Nikki.
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