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on one roll of the dice to get a thousand

28:02

kilos of cocaine into Ireland. So

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again, you're going to partner up with other gangs

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if you can. You're going to kind of split

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the risk and do it over three goes and

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you're going to still have your other go-to criminal

28:15

activities that people like to do, whether it's

28:18

stolen electronics or forging

28:21

documents or dodgy mortgages.

28:24

It's just endless. Tobacco, your favourite.

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My, did, um, Michael Gaitley

28:29

show up at all? No, we

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didn't see him. And of course they were represented in

28:33

court. So there's no, there's

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no reason or you don't have to turn

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up at these, these hearings as a respondent.

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Some people do, because I don't know, they

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want to see their, their hard earned money

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or non hard earned money being

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used by, by a lawyer. I think they see it as

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hard earned. They do see it as hard earned, of course,

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but they want to see they're getting value for money if

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they're going to get stuck with the bill. Um, but

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yeah, you know, it's, it's kind of, it's

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interesting to see who turns up sometimes in

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these cases. Um, and sometimes it's, it's

29:04

the kind of, I suppose I would

29:06

suspect this, the more slightly naive,

29:09

softer criminals and that the

29:11

genuine hardcore people like the likes of

29:13

the Waldrons never turned up, likes of

29:15

Maggo Gaitley, never to be seen.

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Like, you know, I did sit with Derek Butler Devoy. I

29:20

did. Yeah, he did. He was, uh, I think

29:23

they relieved him of a hundred thousand at one

29:25

point. And I was covering

29:27

the, the, the, the cab list

29:29

at the time. And he came

29:31

in, he came in

29:33

with his mother. All right. As you do.

29:36

His mother kept saying to

29:38

him, there's Nickle Dant. All

29:40

right. He didn't know who you were, but the mother did. He

29:42

did. I'd say he was fit to kill her. She

29:46

was mortifying him. And

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then she was waving over at me and I was giving,

29:51

I was saying, hello. I didn't look

29:53

for an autograph or anything. No, there you go.

29:55

Your celebrity. embarrassing

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me ma'am. You're embarrassing me ma'am. Yeah,

30:02

anyway just these funny little things. I'm

30:04

afraid nothing like that has happened to

30:06

me. Obviously I'm not as recognisable as

30:09

you, thankfully. I shouldn't be laughing

30:11

so hard at that. But you

30:13

know, those three murders,

30:16

and he's 24 that he's

30:18

linked to, the most

30:21

high profile of them, well obviously David

30:24

Byrne at the Regency Hotel. But Eamonn

30:26

the Don Don killed in the

30:28

Fossa House Pope in 2010 while

30:30

sitting having a drink. I mean he was a liability

30:33

at that point. Everybody he had gone

30:35

a bit crazy, had murdered

30:37

a lot of people, was going

30:40

through that paranoia, moving

30:42

about, staying in caravans, etc. There

30:44

was an inevitability to his murder.

30:47

But at that point

30:50

in 2010 when he's murdered, James

30:53

Michael Gaetley, who's linked to this murder,

30:56

would have been working with the Kinnahan

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Organised Crime Group. So the

31:03

suggestion that Eamonn the Don

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Don was taken out by

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the Kinnahan Network, or just

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with their sanction? I

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mean we've heard everything really,

31:15

that those three major groups

31:17

coalesced and thought it's

31:20

time to get him out of the way. And

31:22

the fact that there was a relatively smooth

31:24

handover of business to the two Waldrons then

31:27

immediately after, I mean that is something that

31:29

came out in the cab cases against the

31:31

Waldrons, that they very much took

31:33

over the business following the murder of

31:35

Eamonn the Don Don. There was no suggestion that

31:37

they were directly involved in anyway with

31:40

the murder. But they basically took over the patch where

31:43

he had been selling drugs, like in

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that kind of cabra area. A little

31:47

bit of poison chalice, that area,

31:50

given that it all

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was started off by PJ Judge, who

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was taken out, and

31:57

Martin Marlow Highland stood in to

32:00

take over and Martin Marlow

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Hyland was taken out and Eamon The

32:04

Don Dunn stood in

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to take over. Yeah, I'm

32:09

not sure I'd be that comfortable. No, I

32:11

mean, you do wonder like if probably

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would just stick around. I mean, maybe the Waldron's right

32:15

and buying a nice house down in Wexford. Now the

32:17

Waldron's are what 15 years? They

32:20

were, yeah, it would have been. The Don's

32:22

murder. And that case

32:25

rocked up again this week, even though we

32:28

know that like one house belonging to

32:31

them has been sold off. And I think

32:34

that was Christopher who'd settled his case. And

32:36

then David's houses, he's one in Leekslip, one

32:39

in Ratoth and the big mansion then,

32:41

Darview Heights that you got the fabulous

32:43

pics of and all the rest. And

32:46

it turned last month, we know that there

32:48

was something like 6,300 in rent for Darview

32:50

Heights and Leekslip for the River Forest house,

32:53

still being paid to a Spanish bank account where

32:55

David Waldron was living. A month?

32:57

A month, yeah. And so that was said last

32:59

month. So this just... He has it rented out and someone's

33:01

paying it to him. He has it rented out,

33:03

yeah. And there was a man named in court,

33:05

I think a Lithuanian gentleman as

33:08

being in receipt. Sorry, that

33:10

he was paying the rent and paying it into a

33:12

Spanish account. And they said Waldron was now estranged from

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his wife, who's also called Charlene by the way. And

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she's living in the Ratoth house. And

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then they said there was 13 people

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in the, whatever it is, the three

33:24

or four bed house in River Forest and Leekslip. And

33:27

the judge says, well, I can't give a possession order

33:29

on these until we get, we need to know all

33:32

the occupants have been notified. So what we

33:34

got yesterday then was a guard

33:37

giving evidence, like it wasn't affidavit evidence. He

33:39

actually gave evidence in the court that he'd

33:41

served letters to the 13 people and that

33:44

the guy who was living in

33:46

Darview, I can't pronounce his name, but it's

33:48

actually in our website. Bubness is his surname.

33:51

And it's on sundayworld.com. You can

33:54

look it up and David Waldron rent. So

33:57

he was collecting, yeah, but he was collecting from.