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there's the show
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we came from a
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family a large family and
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her parents were not particularly well
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ah sometimes they had money sometimes they didn't
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her father was a a rather luckless
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inventor and , be moved
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around a lot lot as they moved
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her older siblings should have married
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and stayed where they where and
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glance eventual he as the
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second youngest of second family eventually
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ended up in sort of the new
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england new york area where
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she realized how much she loved
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new york city and also
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that she really wanted to get a music
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education and beyond the states
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niki ninety five glance chesbrough
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moved into a small apartment of her own since
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in grammars the park in new york city she
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brought a portrait of appearance as ease
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her flowers and she bought a piano
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he resisted music than
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my one absorbing interest he
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wasn't interested in getting married writing
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i'm one of my existence to be furthered
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and glowing we're hearing
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about her from historians and author april
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way true life
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in the york like our she supporting
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herself
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i added time she was
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the game and singing i'd searches
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mean lace i'm and and making
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a small safe and each week for
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being a part of the player
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that was enough
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it
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not for her to get by
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in new york it wasn't enough for her to
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live the life she pointed sale her
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dream was to some day study music in paris
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for extra money last job
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singing for socialites at parties
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he made friends lot of these people and
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they sometimes expressed interest in funding
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her education
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nothing ever seem to come of it
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plans for contender invited to join them
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on their yachts and the summers are
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she doesn't sing for everyone he
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voted on one of those yachts
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the first time in my
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i need to champaign
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in august and eighty ninety seven blanche
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, that to sail up to the coast mean
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mean the boat pulled into the harbor in harbor
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another yard pulled in yard them and
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the skipper invited everyone over for
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lunch and that's when
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glance first met
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the mile an hour
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roman moment i was sitting by and reading
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a book
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lance writer wrote this something
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clash between us and
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that he had he had aerosols possession
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it's poison and breeding
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one the sign of
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a
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new york family that had become
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us out well see in
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are in business sort of part of this
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new the marshal aristocracy
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the woman father vienna successful paint
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company roman
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was working as the superintendents and
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she's chemists for another companies
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one that manufactured dies the
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was a member of an exclusive men's
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club in the city the knickerbocker
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athletic club the season
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tickets to the metropolitan opera then
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he was also that hey this guy's he would find
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as blanche did on a yacht
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and drinking champagne and eating caviar
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because he moved in those worlds
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he introduces heard this
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world you know there they go to the mats
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and stayed diner da monaco's
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and they have access
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to this world as theater and
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art ensued that blanchett
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always
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that's far
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he brought her guess almost every day sometimes
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, things like fruit or flowers real
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surprise her jewelry the
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do for a butterfly in with a hundred
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diamonds on it in a custom
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ring from tiffany's it still does the
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word misbah with diamonds
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it , a popular gifted the time misbah
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, for watch tower the
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rings were way to keep the person you love
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in mind even if they were far away
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with your died roland
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was interested in glance but
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she wasn't one hundred percent
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sold on the idea of rolling
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she did she didn't feel that she was in love with them
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and x rays the idea
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of marriage of marriage of times
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and and see but
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i am she's
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read on the verge of this world
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and his life she wants to be a part of
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a but despite the fact that roland introduced
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her to this she
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doesn't want to marry him she
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just jokes away this idea
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the marriage she really believes
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that to become a wise is a
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narrowing of horizons as she
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says or curtailment of freedom
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keeping herself as free as air
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she says and dot and
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that's what she wanted to be she didn't want
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to have this traditional married
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relationship but
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on thanksgiving day eighty ninety
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seven roland kneels down
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in front of plants and ask for
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her hand in marriage and
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plants says no
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they continue to see each other
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one evening in november they went to the opera
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during intermission swollen saw a friend from
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the knickerbocker club and introduced
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him to blanche the man's name
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was henry barnett
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why henry barnett
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a friend of rowlands from
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that the knickerbocker athletic club and
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he just loved lies
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and had these big appetites and
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he was just sort of the life of the party
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i'm and although she continued
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to date roland date roland
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to the theater with ham and get you know go
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to dinner with him and she also
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felt free to pursue this other
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relationship now that she had made it clear
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that she was not going to marry roland
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and so she began a relationship
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with that with henry barnett's in
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january they to nine to lead the
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avast at the same party near washington square
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park they'd come with other people
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as their dates plans
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to come with roland he was wearing
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the diamond butterfly pin he'd given
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her
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henry barnett
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and glance issued like
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to leave the party for little while
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he got
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it out i know where we
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can have can moment together
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he probably does that ruined and henry
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barnett were very different ruined
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was reserved and aloof
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henry barnett was always smiling
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cheerful and friendly
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the last call him born
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a couple of weeks before rolling
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just
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there is this relationship
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the for years and can friends
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barney , it but blanche
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is unhappy that he would go to barney this to
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barney argument between her and relax so
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he summons roland to her home
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to have this out as ham and
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she's not gonna apologize their what happened
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she's angry
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about a confrontation with barney blinds
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took off the misfiring room and had given
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her
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and it he flings it across
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the room and and roland scramble
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to retrieve that i'm he's going to hold
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on to this rang and that's when he storms
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alex and he yells tell barnett
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the coast is clear see
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when
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i'm feeding judge this is
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criminal
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we
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should all try to send
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, little time thinking about a good prank
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that we could pull pull
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be a good idea and in fact this
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lance henry barnett continued
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to see each other
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das it's not
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going as well as blanche
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had imagined and a big part of
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that is that henry barnett's
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does not have the wells that
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role in high
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they can not have the same sort of dinners
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and theater outings which is something that barney
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wasn't all that interested in any way and
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, psyche so stingy with his money
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that plants begins to wonder if maybe he's
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seeing someone else else
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she decides that she's gonna step away
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from new york for the summer and she's going
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to go and stay with sand
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outside of the city which was out in typically
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whites the more well to do new yorkers
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would do during the summer months to
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little more challenging for blanche because
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she didn't have the have but
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she manages to to leave the city and
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and vacation elsewhere for the summer
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and return at the end of the season
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and when she comes back she finds
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that there is no message
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at all from barney waiting for her but
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there is a letter from rowlands
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the latter the written on rowlands
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eggshell blue stationary that
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he just returned from a vacation in europe
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and after she might like to come to the waldorf astoria
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for lunch some thursday
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granted this point against the get
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pretty practical
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realize that the
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, vacation that's
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roland just returned from is
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not something she'd be able to
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has in her life with bernie i'm
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the me
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the education
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preferably in your app that she'd like to
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have is not something she'll
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be able to afford in a life with
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barney but it is something that roland
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can offer her blanche
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reply to rowlands invitation then
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agreed to meet him for lunch
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you know sits down
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and and she's back in
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this world that she loves and
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you know sees
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the hating on fillet a soul
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and drinking white wine and you know
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great cable at the at
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the waldorf astoria with a view
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of set avenue and
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so roland maxes play
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the reach across the table with the miss
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covering he'd given her before the
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ones you turn across the room
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and she makes her choice
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she decides that she will be engaged to
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rowlands
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it's not clear to me
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that's he realized how
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little bland says marines had really changed
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and she didn't love them seed
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didn't wanna be married but she'd made she'd made
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profitable decision
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he
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could make of so
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they could build a good life to to
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their it just wasn't the things
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that she wanted and she didn't she didn't love
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him and it's not clear to me
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he recognized
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williams mean to tell henry barnett those
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her decision
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that's not just for him at the newcomers kirkland
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but isn't was
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he didn't hear from him for a long time
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until , he called her and said
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he'd already heard about the engagement from
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someone someone
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, and he came to read
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he told her that
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she cleans a barrier between them grant
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had that there are no barriers
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can't leave remains
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any bernie shortly
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after she learned very sick
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and he is
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the vomiting and see has it in
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flames road and tongue and can't
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eat and doctors don't
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know what's going on with hams they
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can't figure out the problem was
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the had done a little under
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the weather fryer issue at this
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sudden illness and he
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had over indulge the night before
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and so he had taken medication
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, medication called now's
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improved effervescent powder i
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and it was
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something that treated hangovers
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so he had decided he was gonna have
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some of that by the the
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gets incredibly l they
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cannot figure out what's happening to him
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a think that possibly it's did syria
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which they did have the means to treat at
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this point but he is not responding
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arms any of the treatments they give him
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what what the twins do when she found
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out that henry sick you
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wrote him a notes i'm and
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sent some flowers saying
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how much she wants to see em
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and how much she wants to mend their relationship
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and
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a couple of days later he's dead
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henry barnett died on november tenth
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eighty ninety
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i the end of the month blanche involvement
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molineux are married for
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their honeymoon it's this as an entire month
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in a suite at the waldorf astoria the
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went shopping on that
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and it ended a party at the opera club
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though deeper expensive presents
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that she read about the during that time
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secretly i grieved
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you thought about bernie all the time
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they were persistent thoughts of him sad
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and tender full of grief
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at one point she asked roland
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want
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two screens and indifferent about
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barney's death you
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knew him so well and for so long she said
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i think when one dies any little difference
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should be forgotten
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the woman change the subject
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the new during their honeymoon was distracted
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and remote until
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just before christmas you
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could try to what you described as a pile
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of little christmas gifts elaborately
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, in layers and layers of tissue
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paper p was in p good
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mood
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christmas eve the
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athletic director at the knickerbocker athletic
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club a man named harry current
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the received against
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there is no colored and he didn't know who was
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from inside
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with a blue tiffany box with what
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looked like decorative holder for a medicine
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bottle made of silver and
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a bottle of powder labeled emerson's
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burma soups promo
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seltzer was often used for hangovers
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mary cornice assumed it was some kind
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of joke from a friend and
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then a few days later when harrys
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cousin kate adams said
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she had a headache the offered some
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to her
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the complain that it tasted bad
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eerie cornish try to little and agreed
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that he said that medicine
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the was supposed to taste good that
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and within a few minutes to dance
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got very sick the
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time the doctor arrived harry cornish
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was very sick too did
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not describe kid adam cease
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as having a kind of dark bullish color
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editor's
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the had a cold clammy feeling
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he put ammonia under her nose gave
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her an injection of a heart stimulant
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and then performed
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laughter is artificial respiration
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a process of raising and lowering a patient's
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arms to try to manually sills
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an empty their lungs
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none of it worked in quito
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died
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the doctor tried to help harry who'd
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ingested much less of the medicine
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powder and
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then the doctor tasted it himself
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he put a little bit of the powder from the bottle
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on his tongue and , smelled
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omens omens later
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he and nine eleven
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and contact with most deadly poison
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that i'd ever heard
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the
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adam died on december twenty eighth
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eighty nine years the records
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survive he
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didn't just get enough of the powder to
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be very sick one
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of the doctors at the knickerbocker club realized
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didn't see me symptoms before then
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another patient he tweeted about a month
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earlier henry barnett
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before , died born he told
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the doctor that the hangover powder
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he taken just before he got sick that
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arrived in the mail but
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he symptoms look like diphtheria
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and that was listed was listed cause of death
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how we sort of had this revelation
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that maybe
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maybe barney was murdered because
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this woman had died and very similar
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ways after taking a
19:53
sample of medication that had arrived
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in the mail
19:56
within a day
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newspapers
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the reporting on the possible connections
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between the two deaths
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what headline read
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double murder mystery in a new york club
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and called it's one of the most mysterious
20:11
crimes of recent occurrence in
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new york city
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the new york times quoted the district attorney
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saying that he thought the poisoner was
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a woman
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that quote history
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, that poisoning is a woman
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said that of accent homes
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nature is essentially soda
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the next day at six am beliefs
20:33
involvement woke up to someone pounding on their
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door it was rolling father's
20:38
holding father's copy of the new york journal and
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they're the headline and it says police
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squints roland burnham at molineux
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in the poisoning case and
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this is the first moment
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that bland smartphones that her
20:54
husband is suspected to be a
20:56
murderer the
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roman new harry cornish from
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the knickerbocker club
21:03
harry was the athletic director
21:05
at the knickerbocker and and
21:07
and roland did he really just
21:09
disagreed on how the club's should
21:11
be run
21:13
the morning
21:14
grogan place an order for gymnastics equipment
21:17
for the club from a company he like
21:20
harry apparently went behind his back and
21:22
change the owner ritual
21:25
and didn't know about until the wrong equipment
21:27
arrived in
21:29
another instance roman learned that
21:32
harry had written a letter insulting
21:34
one of rowlands friends using it's
21:36
knickerbocker athletic club stationary
21:39
and complained to the club's board
21:42
the board told him he to stop using the stationary
21:45
the room and couldn't let go
21:48
roland thought he had the power
21:50
and that
21:51
there's social standing as to place
21:54
harry out of the club over this disagreement
21:56
and get him fired by
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instead
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harry guy
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roland forced out of the club
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on his way out
22:06
the woman had harry
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you when
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to hear his cousin keyed adams died
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there is a coroner's inquest to determine
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whether a crime have been committed the
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inquest was only called to examine
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the death of kitab barney
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body had been exude and was being
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analyzed but his death
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hadn't originally been investigated like investigated murder
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it was attributed to diphtheria
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he was more detail on in terms
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of motives
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though even though barney's that wasn't
22:46
the purpose of the inquest the
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love triangle between barney roland
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and blanched was brought up over
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and over
22:55
connection made between
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henry barnett and though
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it there were there were lots of
23:02
a sort of overlaps or that
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would come up in these particular cases
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and so they made the connection between
23:10
these pieces of physical evidence
23:13
on end of course during
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the inquest it was just so
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much easier to explain the potential
23:20
motive for barney's
23:22
death than it was to explain qaeda
23:24
adams das that you really saudis
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two cases be entertained the
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prosecution has two deaths and
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one doesn't have a very good explanation
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they look the same but the
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other does and so they kind of
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say well let's good
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points the cute the easier case here in
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and talk about henry barnett and glance
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and hopefully that translate the
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other yes there there prosecuting
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kate adams dust but they're trying
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to use the mode is in
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the potential
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n n n henry barnett's case
24:02
to explain
24:03
how this might have all happens
24:07
branch out to testify about her relationship
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with barney she denied that was
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anything more than friendship the
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handwriting expert was called need
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, the label on the package that harry cornish
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had received and compared it to a
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handwriting sampled roland had provided
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he couldn't match
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not only was it a match but not
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the label and the sample
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the mean the same small error
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forty any address or
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forty fifth street written out as a word
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misspelled with the you
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after you are t y
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other handwriting expert agree that
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the handwriting with the masks investigators
24:51
had gone to order letter requesting medicine
24:53
powders from drug manufacturers looking
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for handwriting matches and
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, found several linked to rented
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post box and
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ah well written on eggshell blue stationary
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just kind rolling nice newspapers
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follow the keys closely and report
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it's any detail about role than they could
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find that itself to opium
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video and pornography the
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newspaper described him as a moral degenerate
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a roundabout way to suggest that he was gay
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an implied it it was suspicious
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enjoy decorating his room at
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the knickerbocker plant
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sustain with romans parents newspapers
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were allowed in the house she
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read about the new seats are
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not even unfolded in my presence after
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the inquest movement was arrested and
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taken to the tombs prison he
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was charged with first degree murder for killing
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kid animals the
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trial began almost a year later in
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november eighteen ninety nine your
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faction took more than two weeks five
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hundred and four men were considered the
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paper reported that everyone in new york
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wanted to come watch both
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men , wealth tried to bribe their way and
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and about town tried getting by pull
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the women used every artist persuasion
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they knew
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the briefing on duty told them that
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women would not be admitted under any circumstances
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who did get in
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mm among here one
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the get in to collect material or
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tragedy he was reading
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an elderly man and the garb as a clergyman
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one and material for a sermon a
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drama critic covered the trial for the new
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york herald
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in his opening statements the prosecutors
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up for more than four hours he
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told me juri today
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there is a fight between society and poisoners
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every poisoning case is supposed to be
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an improvement on it's predecessor
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every point the next try to improve on
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or nothing now
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in this case the murderer adopted it's
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what he thought was very fine method
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the selected cyanide of mercury
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a point in that some of our greatest druggists
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live all their lives without ever seen
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he went on to say that cyanide of mercury had
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been discovered by german chemist was
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experimenting with a color called prussian
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blue
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the side
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no other person except the canister a
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color maker would have either such a
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poison
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the woman was a chemist who worked
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at a company that manufactured pigments
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hi nice mercury the sound and the medications
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that both harry corners and
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henry barnett received in the mail
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the prosecutor said
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how can anyone have knowledge of the to crimes
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and not be convinced that they were can
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see
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lived at the same brain
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what role did glance play
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in the trial
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he was considered
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to be the mode as in this
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in this trial says she sat there
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and seats she waited
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an arm and played the role of the loving
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wife but she was really very
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much on trial for were for
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her relationship so they're they're prosecuting
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kate adams death but they're trying
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to use the mode is in
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the potential motors and in henry barnett's
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case to explain how
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this might have all happens
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the prosecutor said
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you might remember gentleman that the defendant
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was married on november
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twenty nine eighty nine
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barnett died on november tenth eighty
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ninety eight the
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defendant has testify but he wanted to marry
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plants just burrow since january
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of that year
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the receiver to marry him
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the plane called sex or that she would
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not marry him more barnett was allies
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when barnett was called in his grave she
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marries the defendant and marries
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him immediately mm
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a prosecutor said it's
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not often in life that a mode as a
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real life concrete presence full
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of personality the endowed
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with flesh and blood then
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he pointed at plants and said
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the mayor limited
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we'll have the rest of bleach next
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