This is the first Cyber Security Talks episode with a CISO on our microphone and not any CISO, but the CISO of the Dutch Cancer Institute - Joost Boele. We talked about his impressive career that started with researching cancer cells as part of his PHD program, to later on fully indulging into the cyber security space in which he left his mark in many organizations until he joined the Dutch Cancer Institute as a CISO. An impressive career with many twists and turns - but never without fun and a challenge.